WEBVTT 00:00:05.040 --> 00:00:08.039 Jim Conrad: Welcome to Conovision, the spirit of storytelling. 00:00:08.130 --> 00:00:14.400 I am Jim Conrad, AKA Cono, and on this episode, we are going to get deep into 00:00:14.400 --> 00:00:20.700 the broadcasting careers of two very good friends, Terry DiMonte and Jake Edwards. 00:00:21.210 --> 00:00:25.530 That's coming up in just a bit, but right now I think it's time for some Word Jazz. 00:00:27.450 --> 00:00:29.640 Have you ever heard word jazz? 00:00:30.540 --> 00:00:34.770 Invented by a voice actor from Chicago, whose name is Ken Nordine. 00:00:35.190 --> 00:00:36.150 Burgundy. 00:00:36.570 --> 00:00:40.980 He started his broadcast career in radio in Chicago and then gained quite 00:00:40.980 --> 00:00:47.460 a lot of fame for a series of albums he recorded called Word Jazz and as well 00:00:47.790 --> 00:00:53.580 an album called Colors, which evolved from a series of advertising spots for a 00:00:53.580 --> 00:00:58.800 paint company, all about various colors that you could buy at the paint store. 00:00:59.205 --> 00:01:02.805 And the commercials became so popular, they began getting requests 00:01:02.805 --> 00:01:04.485 for them at the radio station. 00:01:05.565 --> 00:01:11.715 So from the album Colors, this is the story of beige. 00:01:17.775 --> 00:01:22.575 Impossible to understand beige unless you stare at him hard. 00:01:23.085 --> 00:01:25.395 Stare him right in his wise. 00:01:25.905 --> 00:01:33.765 Unless you see beige in the serious beige-ness of being its beige 00:01:33.795 --> 00:01:41.115 self, more than anything, beige is careful, insanely so really. 00:01:42.104 --> 00:01:45.345 Almost as careful as that shade of yellow that's afraid. 00:01:46.095 --> 00:01:49.875 But beige is much stealthier than yellow. 00:01:50.935 --> 00:01:54.884 Wants the entire everything to be as safe as yesterday is 00:01:55.545 --> 00:01:57.195 now that right now is here. 00:01:58.155 --> 00:02:00.195 You know how flamboyant red can be? 00:02:01.155 --> 00:02:05.715 Wouldn't last a minute with beige, probably wouldn't 00:02:05.715 --> 00:02:07.425 get past beige secretary. 00:02:07.845 --> 00:02:08.805 Maybe you've seen her? 00:02:08.865 --> 00:02:11.505 Miss Always Light Tan. 00:02:12.315 --> 00:02:19.755 Beige even thinks that orange is a little too out there, the way it streaks, 00:02:19.755 --> 00:02:25.695 sunrise and set and just the mention of green causes beige to see purple, 00:02:26.085 --> 00:02:28.215 which drives them into an absolute rage. 00:02:28.725 --> 00:02:33.135 But of course it's only a beige rage. 00:02:34.035 --> 00:02:35.385 Not much strength to it. 00:02:36.704 --> 00:02:45.105 To be honest, as lily white, the truth is that beige is actually anti color unless 00:02:45.285 --> 00:02:55.245 the color is off white, you know, rhymes with alt right, unless the color is beige. 00:02:56.220 --> 00:03:02.640 About as average as you can get away with seeing is the gray way, 00:03:03.329 --> 00:03:07.890 beige likes to have things being. 00:03:25.260 --> 00:03:29.250 Welcome to the Conovision Podcast, the spirit of storytelling, 00:03:29.580 --> 00:03:32.190 storytellers ,and stories. 00:03:32.910 --> 00:03:35.310 So first, a word about stories. 00:03:35.820 --> 00:03:39.630 A story doesn't breathe, but it does have life. 00:03:39.930 --> 00:03:43.740 Stories are the vehicle that move metaphor and image into experience, 00:03:44.190 --> 00:03:48.450 stories, communicate what is generally ineffable and ultimately inexpressible. 00:03:48.690 --> 00:03:49.530 Jake Edwards: Are you high right now? 00:03:51.240 --> 00:03:51.720 Seriously? 00:03:51.720 --> 00:03:56.940 Jim Conrad: Throwing color into the shadows, and ultimately of all the 00:03:56.940 --> 00:03:59.970 devices available to us, stories are the surest way of touching the 00:03:59.970 --> 00:04:04.500 human spirit through the human voice. 00:04:04.590 --> 00:04:05.880 Jake Edwards: Where's the bowl full of gummies? 00:04:06.180 --> 00:04:08.670 I mean, there must be some little side things you're on here. 00:04:08.670 --> 00:04:09.720 What is going on here? 00:04:11.040 --> 00:04:14.130 Jim Conrad: Uh, the two human voices I have with me today. 00:04:14.130 --> 00:04:15.300 Jake Edwards: Was that a demo tape for you? 00:04:15.300 --> 00:04:16.029 Jim Conrad: That was a demo. 00:04:16.100 --> 00:04:16.890 That was just okay. 00:04:16.920 --> 00:04:17.800 Jake Edwards: Good. 00:04:17.800 --> 00:04:18.529 Well done. 00:04:18.560 --> 00:04:21.240 Jim Conrad: I have two legendary broadcasters, brother Jake 00:04:21.240 --> 00:04:23.330 Edwards and Terry DiMonte. 00:04:23.700 --> 00:04:27.150 Now, uh, Terry and, uh, Jake are good friends. 00:04:27.150 --> 00:04:28.920 They've known each other for quite a while. 00:04:29.460 --> 00:04:34.410 Uh, Terry, give me a little thumbnail sketch of, uh, where you were 00:04:34.410 --> 00:04:36.330 born and where you were raised. 00:04:36.600 --> 00:04:38.430 Terry DiMonte: I am, uh, Quebecer. 00:04:38.430 --> 00:04:40.050 I was, uh, born in Montreal. 00:04:40.230 --> 00:04:42.400 And, uh, raised in Montreal. 00:04:42.420 --> 00:04:48.390 And, uh, my first job in radio was in Manitoba, not in Winnipeg where 00:04:48.390 --> 00:04:52.950 I met Jake, but in Churchill, uh, up with the polar bears on Hudson's Bay. 00:04:53.670 --> 00:04:59.340 And I moved to Winnipeg in the summer of 78 and met Jake shortly after that. 00:04:59.820 --> 00:05:00.360 Jim Conrad: And Jake? 00:05:00.805 --> 00:05:01.825 Born and raised in? 00:05:01.935 --> 00:05:02.935 Jake Edwards: Moncton to New Brunswick. 00:05:03.205 --> 00:05:03.895 Maritimer. 00:05:05.965 --> 00:05:12.715 Spent 17, 18 years there and then took off to Boston and became a radio guy. 00:05:13.045 --> 00:05:13.765 That's what I did. 00:05:13.825 --> 00:05:16.525 Just studied radio and trucked through the country. 00:05:16.525 --> 00:05:23.664 And then finally got to Winnipeg and met Terry. 00:05:25.635 --> 00:05:29.245 And uh, Terry was telling me his last gig was in Churchill. 00:05:29.245 --> 00:05:30.115 I couldn't believe it. 00:05:30.115 --> 00:05:31.195 Like, are you kidding? 00:05:31.195 --> 00:05:32.425 Like where the polar bears are? 00:05:33.325 --> 00:05:33.925 He went, yes. 00:05:33.925 --> 00:05:35.215 And he talks about Montreal. 00:05:35.215 --> 00:05:41.155 It's really funny because when we were at CITI-FM, we were just starting to ramp up. 00:05:41.155 --> 00:05:44.755 I mean 360,000 watts of pure rock and power. 00:05:44.755 --> 00:05:45.835 Everything was going great. 00:05:45.835 --> 00:05:48.534 And Terry said, well, you know, we been on here for a few months. 00:05:48.534 --> 00:05:49.705 I'm gonna take a little trip home. 00:05:50.520 --> 00:05:52.020 Well, you're going home going back to Montreal? 00:05:52.020 --> 00:05:52.320 Yep. 00:05:52.320 --> 00:05:53.479 Gonna go back to Montreal. 00:05:53.479 --> 00:05:57.000 Then I met him about 12 days later, he looked like the mummy. 00:05:57.180 --> 00:05:58.110 Tell him what happened. 00:05:58.800 --> 00:05:59.940 Tell him this story. 00:06:00.480 --> 00:06:01.500 You want to get a story? 00:06:01.500 --> 00:06:02.520 This story right here. 00:06:02.520 --> 00:06:02.580 Jim Conrad: Okay. 00:06:02.610 --> 00:06:03.480 Here's our first story. 00:06:03.510 --> 00:06:05.460 Jake Edwards: Well, he's wrapped up like a mummy. 00:06:05.490 --> 00:06:07.590 There isn't any flesh left on him. 00:06:07.590 --> 00:06:09.060 Just a two eyes sticking out. 00:06:10.740 --> 00:06:11.190 What happened? 00:06:11.190 --> 00:06:14.170 Terry DiMonte: When, when I moved to Winnipeg it was really 00:06:14.170 --> 00:06:15.630 my first time away from home. 00:06:15.960 --> 00:06:20.940 And when I was hired at CITI-FM in Winnipeg in the summer of 78, it was 00:06:21.030 --> 00:06:22.710 literally just getting off the ground. 00:06:22.710 --> 00:06:24.240 They didn't have an all night person. 00:06:24.780 --> 00:06:26.250 I was, I was terrified. 00:06:26.250 --> 00:06:28.430 My start was at the CBC. 00:06:28.430 --> 00:06:31.860 And, you know, they were gonna turn me loose into this studio, 00:06:31.920 --> 00:06:33.270 uh, to do the all night show. 00:06:33.690 --> 00:06:36.330 And I was, you know, terrified of how I was gonna handle 00:06:36.330 --> 00:06:37.470 it and how it was gonna go. 00:06:37.470 --> 00:06:39.270 And every minute I thought I was gonna get fired. 00:06:39.750 --> 00:06:44.550 And I remember Steve Young, uh, drawing a circle on a piece of paper, and he 00:06:44.550 --> 00:06:47.614 drew a line at 12 and 6 and 9 and 3. 00:06:47.715 --> 00:06:50.565 And he took the pencil and he said, stop here and stop here. 00:06:50.565 --> 00:06:51.525 Do the weather here. 00:06:51.855 --> 00:06:56.345 Don't forget to say 92 CITI-FM and do whatever the hell you want. 00:06:56.345 --> 00:06:57.565 I felt so much pressure. 00:06:57.585 --> 00:07:00.315 And then they, they said to me, you gotta go away on a holiday. 00:07:00.315 --> 00:07:03.765 So I wanted to go back to Montreal because I miss my friends and family. 00:07:03.765 --> 00:07:05.175 I was still only 19. 00:07:05.805 --> 00:07:10.755 I went back to Montreal and went out with friends and, um, we began drinking. 00:07:11.505 --> 00:07:13.655 Which is quite a surprise at that age. 00:07:14.025 --> 00:07:15.384 And I, I was, uh, 00:07:15.384 --> 00:07:15.974 Jim Conrad: Invincible. 00:07:16.335 --> 00:07:16.825 Terry DiMonte: Oh yeah. 00:07:16.965 --> 00:07:17.635 Bulletproof. 00:07:17.635 --> 00:07:21.165 In the backseat of a car, uh, driving up a boulevard. 00:07:21.825 --> 00:07:25.305 And, uh, there was a car full of girls that pulled up beside us at a red light. 00:07:25.305 --> 00:07:31.005 And I thought the perfect way to impress them will be to put my 00:07:31.005 --> 00:07:34.935 body out the window, sit on the door sill and wave across the 00:07:34.935 --> 00:07:37.725 roof at the car next to us, right? 00:07:38.235 --> 00:07:41.925 So I'm sitting on the door sill holding the roof with my hands, and 00:07:41.925 --> 00:07:45.705 as the car began to move, I thought, I've seen Burt Reynolds do it. 00:07:47.445 --> 00:07:51.885 And I reached across, I pushed off the backseat and reached across the 00:07:51.885 --> 00:07:56.785 roof to try and strap myself across the roof while the car was driving. 00:07:57.045 --> 00:07:59.005 Because I thought that would be impressive. 00:07:59.065 --> 00:07:59.755 Jim Conrad: Very cool. 00:07:59.785 --> 00:08:00.115 Terry DiMonte: Yeah. 00:08:00.625 --> 00:08:02.425 Uh, my hands of course didn't reach. 00:08:02.595 --> 00:08:07.195 And I grabbed and pushed, and as I pushed, I rolled off the back windshield, 00:08:07.195 --> 00:08:11.785 bounced off the trunk, bounced off the boulevard, and rolled into a ditch. 00:08:13.615 --> 00:08:16.255 And, um, as the doctor was, 00:08:16.255 --> 00:08:17.815 Jim Conrad: That's not funny, but that's funny. 00:08:17.820 --> 00:08:18.505 Terry DiMonte: It's, but it is. 00:08:18.505 --> 00:08:21.295 It's, it's so incredibly stupid it's funny. 00:08:21.295 --> 00:08:27.445 And when the, when the, uh, guys backed up the car to pick me up, I was, of course, I 00:08:27.445 --> 00:08:31.225 don't know, and whatever the, you know, I don't know if I was concussed or whatever, 00:08:31.285 --> 00:08:35.245 but I was trying to mop up the blood with crumpled up newspaper in the ditch. 00:08:35.245 --> 00:08:36.564 And they took me right to the hospital. 00:08:36.625 --> 00:08:40.135 And as the doctor was sewing my head up, I still have the gash in my head. 00:08:40.585 --> 00:08:44.025 The, the doctor was sewing me up, he said, you're lucky you were drunk. 00:08:44.355 --> 00:08:48.995 And I thought to myself, I remember thinking to myself, well, if I wasn't 00:08:48.995 --> 00:08:50.435 drunk, I wouldn't have been doing that. 00:08:50.975 --> 00:08:52.385 Jim Conrad: This wouldn't have happened in the first place. 00:08:52.444 --> 00:08:55.655 Terry DiMonte: But, but he, he did say to me because I was drunk when 00:08:55.655 --> 00:08:59.255 I hit the road, I was loose because he said, otherwise you'd be dead. 00:08:59.314 --> 00:09:00.545 Jake Edwards: You know, there's an intellectual 00:09:00.545 --> 00:09:02.435 property if you think about it. 00:09:02.435 --> 00:09:04.955 Because he created the first Jackass. 00:09:05.615 --> 00:09:05.825 Right. 00:09:05.960 --> 00:09:08.825 If, you know, if you would've had another bunch of buddies going on board. 00:09:08.915 --> 00:09:09.380 I mean it's not, 00:09:09.380 --> 00:09:12.825 Jim Conrad: If you had video rolling of that it would be priceless. 00:09:12.825 --> 00:09:17.255 Terry DiMonte: It's not a great radio story, but I, I, I, I was so, you know, 00:09:17.255 --> 00:09:21.485 I was so excited to have a gig and I was so afraid to miss the gig that they 00:09:21.485 --> 00:09:26.435 bandaged me up pretty, you know, I had a, a bandage wrapped around my head and my 00:09:26.435 --> 00:09:31.295 arm was all bandaged up and in a sling, and my face was all puffy and swollen 00:09:31.325 --> 00:09:32.795 and I thought, I have to go to work. 00:09:32.795 --> 00:09:33.965 I gotta go to work. 00:09:33.965 --> 00:09:34.055 Jim Conrad: Yeah. 00:09:34.595 --> 00:09:35.375 Can't missed a gig. 00:09:35.495 --> 00:09:37.835 Terry DiMonte: Jake saw me and he was, 00:09:38.045 --> 00:09:38.795 Jake Edwards: I lost it. 00:09:38.795 --> 00:09:39.095 Terry DiMonte: Yeah. 00:09:39.095 --> 00:09:41.115 He's like, what the fuck? 00:09:41.470 --> 00:09:43.690 Jake Edwards: This is the new guy going to afternoon soon. 00:09:43.690 --> 00:09:44.530 I'm the morning guy. 00:09:44.560 --> 00:09:44.620 Yeah. 00:09:44.650 --> 00:09:46.420 So this radio station is going to be, 00:09:46.425 --> 00:09:46.915 Terry DiMonte: Yeah, we're in trouble. 00:09:47.235 --> 00:09:47.475 Jake Edwards: Unbelievable. 00:09:47.615 --> 00:09:49.015 92 CITI-FM. 00:09:49.035 --> 00:09:51.515 360,000 watts of power. 00:09:51.665 --> 00:09:53.320 Alright, let's come in for the photos. 00:09:53.320 --> 00:09:54.240 Here's the head shots. 00:09:54.280 --> 00:09:56.620 Look, it's John Merrick, the elephant 00:09:59.850 --> 00:10:00.260 man. 00:10:00.660 --> 00:10:03.940 Terry DiMonte: In terms, in terms of radio stories though, Jim, it's a good, it's 00:10:03.940 --> 00:10:09.900 really a good, uh, place to start because I think, and I'm gonna sound like a douche 00:10:09.900 --> 00:10:15.540 bag because I worked there, but I think it was a real unique moment in, in radio. 00:10:15.540 --> 00:10:19.860 I know the guys at CFox and Q107 and CHOM all have their own stories, but 00:10:20.200 --> 00:10:23.490 CITI-FM changed formats without asking. 00:10:23.620 --> 00:10:25.320 Which was a big deal back in those days. 00:10:25.620 --> 00:10:29.730 They went from classical to rock, began hiring these people and the people 00:10:29.730 --> 00:10:34.830 that ended up working in that place turned out to be, you know, again, 00:10:34.830 --> 00:10:38.020 I'm gonna sound like an arsehole, but you know, giants of the business. 00:10:38.540 --> 00:10:39.120 Gary Aube. 00:10:39.470 --> 00:10:41.235 Magic Christian was his nickname. 00:10:41.444 --> 00:10:42.435 Uh, Steve Young. 00:10:42.615 --> 00:10:44.865 Steve Warden, Jake Edwards. 00:10:45.525 --> 00:10:46.604 Snapper Bob. 00:10:46.895 --> 00:10:47.415 Elton John: Randy. 00:10:47.535 --> 00:10:47.905 Randy. 00:10:47.905 --> 00:10:48.295 Terry DiMonte: Randy. 00:10:48.314 --> 00:10:48.675 Yeah. 00:10:48.675 --> 00:10:52.965 Randy Renauld, uh, Doc Steen worked there, which legendary broadcaster. 00:10:52.965 --> 00:10:56.715 And there was this, you know, this happenstance of all of these young, 00:10:57.225 --> 00:10:59.805 wild people that came together. 00:10:59.865 --> 00:11:00.345 Jim Conrad: Alchemy. 00:11:00.405 --> 00:11:00.944 Terry DiMonte: Yeah. 00:11:01.215 --> 00:11:02.775 Uh, that's the perfect word for it. 00:11:02.775 --> 00:11:08.685 And I remember we were stuck in the basement, uh, because the company at 00:11:08.685 --> 00:11:12.615 the time that owned the radio station, Moffat, they thought, well, they 00:11:12.615 --> 00:11:14.235 wanna turn it into a rock station. 00:11:14.235 --> 00:11:16.515 So go, you guys go ahead and play in the basement. 00:11:16.515 --> 00:11:17.444 We'll see what happens. 00:11:17.655 --> 00:11:20.025 I don't think they expected it to be successful, Jake. 00:11:20.025 --> 00:11:20.685 I really don't. 00:11:20.745 --> 00:11:21.194 Jake Edwards: No. 00:11:21.194 --> 00:11:24.795 And and none of them came down to check out what was going on down there. 00:11:25.125 --> 00:11:25.694 Terry DiMonte: No, they didn't. 00:11:25.694 --> 00:11:27.725 Jake Edwards: They, they were afraid to come down to the basement. 00:11:27.725 --> 00:11:29.685 'Cause there was a lot of crap going on down there. 00:11:29.905 --> 00:11:29.995 Jim Conrad: Okay. 00:11:29.995 --> 00:11:31.495 What kind of crap as well. 00:11:31.755 --> 00:11:33.255 Jake Edwards: Well, I mean, pick your poison. 00:11:33.640 --> 00:11:36.490 I mean, seriously, there's an ashtray full of joints. 00:11:37.240 --> 00:11:41.200 Terry DiMonte: I, I'll tell you, I'm sure Steve isn't with us anymore. 00:11:41.200 --> 00:11:42.340 God rest his soul. 00:11:42.810 --> 00:11:43.800 But I'm sure you won't mind. 00:11:43.800 --> 00:11:44.250 Jim Conrad: Steve Young. 00:11:44.250 --> 00:11:44.820 Terry DiMonte: Steve Young. 00:11:44.820 --> 00:11:45.000 Yeah. 00:11:45.030 --> 00:11:49.830 Uh, Steve was legendary radio mind, legendary music director. 00:11:50.340 --> 00:11:53.800 And I, I had been working the all night show, and I, again, remember, I've only 00:11:53.800 --> 00:11:59.230 been in radio for maybe eight months, and he, I would get off the air at 6. 00:11:59.250 --> 00:12:04.350 I'd go across the street from Polo Park to McDonald's, have coffee, wait for him to 00:12:04.415 --> 00:12:06.210 come in, and at 8 o'clock I would go in. 00:12:06.210 --> 00:12:10.620 He was a music director, and I would go into his office and, you know, I'd 00:12:10.620 --> 00:12:13.620 wanna learn, I wanted to know about music systems and how it worked and 00:12:13.620 --> 00:12:15.270 what I could do and how could I help. 00:12:15.270 --> 00:12:18.360 And, you know, at 11 or 12 o'clock he'd say, you gotta go home. 00:12:18.360 --> 00:12:19.020 You gotta work tonight. 00:12:19.680 --> 00:12:22.290 And he, he got comfortable with me. 00:12:22.650 --> 00:12:26.850 And after about a couple of weeks, he came in and he put his coat on the 00:12:26.850 --> 00:12:32.070 hook in his office, and he sat behind his desk and he opened the desk drawer 00:12:32.280 --> 00:12:34.230 and he put a blowtorch on the desk. 00:12:35.430 --> 00:12:40.449 Now remember, I've never, like I was, I was a real goody two shoes kid. 00:12:41.319 --> 00:12:44.310 I never, I'd never taken a puff of anything. 00:12:44.310 --> 00:12:45.600 I'd never seen anything. 00:12:45.780 --> 00:12:47.760 And I thought, I'm just gonna keep my mouth shut. 00:12:47.760 --> 00:12:47.819 Yeah. 00:12:47.819 --> 00:12:51.000 I'm not sure if he's, you know, maybe he is gonna weld the desk. 00:12:51.000 --> 00:12:52.199 I'm not sure what he is up to. 00:12:52.860 --> 00:12:57.415 And then he pulled out a couple of knives and they clanked on the desk and 00:12:57.420 --> 00:13:00.115 I thought, what the fuck is he doing? 00:13:00.985 --> 00:13:05.095 And he looked at me and he said, I haven't had my morning 00:13:05.095 --> 00:13:07.944 coffee, so would you like a hit? 00:13:08.064 --> 00:13:09.925 And I still didn't know what he meant. 00:13:10.705 --> 00:13:14.155 And he put a chunk of hash in between the two knives and he fired 00:13:14.155 --> 00:13:16.435 up the blow torch and did the big, 00:13:17.155 --> 00:13:17.755 Jim Conrad: Yep. 00:13:17.814 --> 00:13:23.665 Terry DiMonte: And then we started to do music and I, and I thought to myself, what 00:13:23.665 --> 00:13:25.705 kind of fucking business have I landed in? 00:13:26.335 --> 00:13:30.595 But that's, that's the kind of, I tell that story and, and not to tell tales 00:13:30.595 --> 00:13:32.635 at a school, but it gives you an idea. 00:13:32.665 --> 00:13:35.125 It was Jake, I think you'd agree with this. 00:13:35.185 --> 00:13:38.035 It was as close to WKRP as 00:13:38.165 --> 00:13:39.485 Jake Edwards: Totally, totally, yeah. 00:13:39.485 --> 00:13:44.605 We did, we did quite a few stupid promos like the Helium 500, remember that one? 00:13:44.795 --> 00:13:46.615 Where we got the helium tanks in. 00:13:46.765 --> 00:13:49.675 I came up with this idea and I thought, let's get these helium tanks 00:13:49.675 --> 00:13:53.335 in, and every time we go on the air, we'd have to take a big gulp of air. 00:13:53.555 --> 00:13:56.360 And talk about 360,000 watts of pure radial power. 00:13:56.730 --> 00:13:57.170 Here's Rush. 00:13:57.405 --> 00:14:01.535 And we just kill ourselves laughing, not thinking that ingesting and 00:14:01.535 --> 00:14:04.834 inhaling this helium the whole day. 00:14:04.834 --> 00:14:05.824 Everybody went around. 00:14:05.824 --> 00:14:09.395 So anytime your voice broke back to normal, you could phone in 00:14:09.675 --> 00:14:10.834 and they would win something. 00:14:10.834 --> 00:14:15.875 So our thing is we wanted to try to go 500, whatever that was, uh, for a whole 00:14:15.875 --> 00:14:17.495 day to see without, without breaking. 00:14:17.944 --> 00:14:19.834 But, uh, that was hilarious. 00:14:19.834 --> 00:14:23.165 And then when they started rolling the tanks in and then it became real 00:14:23.165 --> 00:14:24.155 and we were on the air doing that. 00:14:24.160 --> 00:14:26.255 Terry DiMonte: But it was, it was the kind of environment 00:14:26.255 --> 00:14:28.710 where nothing was off the table. 00:14:29.070 --> 00:14:32.070 You know, I listened to radio today and I kind of roll my eyes because back, 00:14:32.130 --> 00:14:34.980 back then, everybody's ideas were cool. 00:14:34.980 --> 00:14:36.570 There were no bad ideas. 00:14:36.960 --> 00:14:39.410 And the crazier the idea, the better. 00:14:39.520 --> 00:14:45.145 And Jake and Magic, the program director, and Steve, I think were, 00:14:45.150 --> 00:14:50.490 were forever cooking up ways to make the place interesting and fascinating. 00:14:50.490 --> 00:14:54.330 'Cause we, we were trying to get noticed, we were like an, an upstart 00:14:54.330 --> 00:14:56.310 station that nobody listened to. 00:14:56.400 --> 00:14:59.850 And slowly we began to build this audience and it, it turned into, 00:15:00.030 --> 00:15:01.350 well it's still there today. 00:15:01.760 --> 00:15:05.520 Jake Edwards: Well, and I gotta, you know, back in the day when I flew up to 00:15:05.520 --> 00:15:10.480 look at this radio station, Gary Aube, I was on the air in Moncton and Gary Aube 00:15:10.770 --> 00:15:14.550 just happened to be driving through New Brunswick looking for talent on the air. 00:15:14.550 --> 00:15:17.520 So I happened to be on in the evening and he called up, he said, man, man. 00:15:17.925 --> 00:15:19.125 It's Magic Christian. 00:15:19.695 --> 00:15:21.015 He said, how are you doing? 00:15:21.015 --> 00:15:22.185 I said, really great. 00:15:22.245 --> 00:15:23.175 Who, who are you? 00:15:23.180 --> 00:15:24.795 He said, I'm just coming from Winnipeg. 00:15:24.795 --> 00:15:26.205 We're looking for talent down here. 00:15:26.205 --> 00:15:32.445 He said, either you're a fucked up jock from Chicago, or you don't know how 00:15:32.505 --> 00:15:36.585 really how good you could be on FM. And I went, well, I've never been to Chicago. 00:15:36.585 --> 00:15:38.695 So anyway, I get on a plane, I get on this. 00:15:38.695 --> 00:15:39.375 Jim Conrad: He flies you to Winnipeg? 00:15:39.375 --> 00:15:40.305 Jake Edwards: Fly to Winnipeg. 00:15:40.485 --> 00:15:43.875 And I remember it was my first time in an aircraft ever. 00:15:44.085 --> 00:15:45.055 A plane. 00:15:45.285 --> 00:15:47.235 27 years old however, I was. 00:15:47.235 --> 00:15:51.525 So I'm on the plane and I'm sitting next to Chief Two Rivers. 00:15:51.585 --> 00:15:54.845 The guy was, uh, it was like this famous chief from Winnipeg. 00:15:55.265 --> 00:15:57.915 And, uh, a Native guy, Indigenous man. 00:15:58.215 --> 00:15:59.775 And he said, where you going? 00:15:59.835 --> 00:16:03.315 I said, I'm gonna be a I, I'm gonna look at a job in Winnipeg. 00:16:03.825 --> 00:16:07.035 And he said, well, he said, uh, things are looking good. 00:16:07.035 --> 00:16:07.605 I feel it. 00:16:07.694 --> 00:16:08.615 And I went, oh, okay. 00:16:08.615 --> 00:16:09.435 Really cool. 00:16:09.795 --> 00:16:13.064 So I went, he said, uh, you're going to be good. 00:16:13.365 --> 00:16:15.675 I have this feeling that you're gonna be good. 00:16:15.855 --> 00:16:18.915 So then he goes to the back of the plane to smoke, whatever. 00:16:18.915 --> 00:16:20.055 And I never saw him again. 00:16:20.180 --> 00:16:20.600 Who thought? 00:16:21.435 --> 00:16:21.975 Jim Conrad: So he was high. 00:16:22.035 --> 00:16:23.505 Jake Edwards: He he was high. 00:16:23.625 --> 00:16:24.675 Are you high right now? 00:16:25.185 --> 00:16:27.645 So, you know, I get out of the, you know, never been to Winnipeg 00:16:27.645 --> 00:16:30.975 coming from New Brunswick, which the weather is, you know, it's, it can 00:16:30.975 --> 00:16:33.145 be kind of balmy and kind of nice. 00:16:33.405 --> 00:16:37.135 And it was the coldest winter on record, 79. 00:16:37.135 --> 00:16:39.194 It was so fricking cold. 00:16:39.495 --> 00:16:42.735 And then back then you actually walked onto the tarmac. 00:16:43.064 --> 00:16:43.245 Jim Conrad: Right. 00:16:43.605 --> 00:16:44.064 You got off the plane. 00:16:44.064 --> 00:16:45.885 Jake Edwards: And I had a bit of a, a cold going on. 00:16:45.885 --> 00:16:51.454 And I remember hitting the minus 42 degrees, uh, that was, it was minus 42. 00:16:51.625 --> 00:16:55.275 And as I'm walking down, both nostrils slammed shut. 00:16:55.365 --> 00:16:56.115 It was frozen. 00:16:56.115 --> 00:16:57.825 I went, where in the fuck am I? 00:16:58.665 --> 00:17:02.255 And Magic was out in the, he had the 92 CITI-FM trick truck. 00:17:02.455 --> 00:17:03.185 It was running. 00:17:03.615 --> 00:17:07.630 And he had these huge sentry speakers in the back with Jimi Hendrix. 00:17:07.630 --> 00:17:09.190 He had all this tape stuff going on. 00:17:09.550 --> 00:17:10.790 'Cause he's that kind of guy. 00:17:10.790 --> 00:17:13.040 He wants to impress you that you're walking into something 00:17:13.389 --> 00:17:14.440 you're really gonna love. 00:17:14.710 --> 00:17:15.785 But I just kept saying, I said, I 00:17:15.785 --> 00:17:18.460 Jim Conrad: You just wanted to get out of the cold into the warm cab of the truck. 00:17:18.460 --> 00:17:19.839 Jake Edwards: He had everything planned. 00:17:19.900 --> 00:17:21.819 I just went, there's no way I can work here. 00:17:21.880 --> 00:17:23.260 This is ridiculous. 00:17:23.319 --> 00:17:27.010 So got in the truck, we drove down into the station and they called 00:17:27.010 --> 00:17:28.730 the bottom basement Bonzolia. 00:17:29.020 --> 00:17:30.040 Remember that, Bonzolia? 00:17:30.055 --> 00:17:31.990 Terry DiMonte: That, that was Steve's Steve's nickname for it. 00:17:31.990 --> 00:17:32.170 Jake Edwards: Yeah. 00:17:32.170 --> 00:17:36.120 So that means that, you know, nobody comes through these doors. 00:17:36.610 --> 00:17:41.530 And if you are knighted to come in and be part of the round table, it would be cool. 00:17:41.530 --> 00:17:45.705 So once you got down there, I remember Chris McGregor was the midday guy. 00:17:45.735 --> 00:17:45.795 Jim Conrad: Yeah. 00:17:45.795 --> 00:17:46.845 So it was kinda like a club. 00:17:47.970 --> 00:17:48.750 Jake Edwards: It was a club. 00:17:48.940 --> 00:17:50.120 Jim Conrad: Club or, or a frat host. 00:17:50.145 --> 00:17:50.535 Terry DiMonte: Yeah. 00:17:50.535 --> 00:17:55.215 And the guys, the guys, Steve and Magic that ran it, infused it with 00:17:55.215 --> 00:17:58.725 this kind of other worldly insanity. 00:17:58.725 --> 00:18:03.225 Like I I, when I came from my interview from Churchill, I was working at the CBC. 00:18:03.705 --> 00:18:06.465 So when I went for my interview and I look back on it now and 00:18:06.465 --> 00:18:07.405 I think, what was I thinking? 00:18:08.015 --> 00:18:08.795 I wore a tie. 00:18:09.815 --> 00:18:15.195 And I sat in a chair at the desk and I, you know, was answering 00:18:15.195 --> 00:18:17.775 these questions and, you know, your experience and blah, blah, blah. 00:18:18.135 --> 00:18:20.745 And they said to me, you know, we listened to your tape and we never 00:18:20.775 --> 00:18:23.865 heard a guy who couldn't shut up like that, who could talk for hours, and 00:18:23.865 --> 00:18:26.655 we think you're talented and, but you need some work and blah, blah, blah. 00:18:27.015 --> 00:18:31.635 And um, when he said, you know, it doesn't pay a lot, but, uh, when can you start? 00:18:32.175 --> 00:18:33.705 And I was enthralled. 00:18:33.825 --> 00:18:37.935 And as I was saying, well, I think, uh, Steve reached into the 00:18:37.935 --> 00:18:40.270 drawer and opened the desk drawer. 00:18:40.330 --> 00:18:42.580 And I didn't, I didn't move fast enough. 00:18:42.670 --> 00:18:46.720 I didn't know what he was doing, but he leaned over the desk and he grabbed my tie 00:18:46.720 --> 00:18:48.520 and he took scissors and he cut it off. 00:18:48.520 --> 00:18:49.180 Jim Conrad: A tie cutter. 00:18:49.300 --> 00:18:49.330 Ah. 00:18:49.330 --> 00:18:51.610 Terry DiMonte: And he said, you won't be needing that fucking thing here. 00:18:52.210 --> 00:18:53.620 Said, this is another world. 00:18:53.620 --> 00:18:54.730 This ain't the CBC. 00:18:55.060 --> 00:18:59.290 So they, they, they infused that place, you know, with the nicknames 00:18:59.290 --> 00:19:03.040 and the craziness, and, and they wanted you to buy into the, the fact that, 00:19:03.580 --> 00:19:08.200 I remember Gary used to say, Magic used to say, if it's in the hallway. 00:19:08.655 --> 00:19:10.334 It's coming outta the speakers. 00:19:10.514 --> 00:19:13.439 So we want, you know, we want this madness. 00:19:13.439 --> 00:19:17.054 Jim Conrad: So he was encouraging personality radio. 00:19:17.145 --> 00:19:17.354 Terry DiMonte: Yes. 00:19:17.354 --> 00:19:17.564 Yeah. 00:19:17.564 --> 00:19:21.405 Jim Conrad: And he, he was saying, who you are is what I want to hear on the radio. 00:19:21.465 --> 00:19:21.584 Terry DiMonte: Yeah. 00:19:21.584 --> 00:19:26.205 And a, he wanted a sense of fun and, you know, we were young and we were 00:19:26.205 --> 00:19:27.945 partying and it was rock and roll. 00:19:27.945 --> 00:19:32.564 And he wanted all of that in the hallway, in the studio, in the outer offices. 00:19:32.925 --> 00:19:36.885 And I think you would agree with this because it was such a little shit 00:19:36.885 --> 00:19:41.804 hole, you know, that that studio was tiny and kind of grungy and dirty. 00:19:42.135 --> 00:19:44.385 And the office was very small. 00:19:44.594 --> 00:19:48.205 Like it was, um, it, it was like a two bedroom apartment. 00:19:48.205 --> 00:19:54.675 And it contained the music office, the jock lounge, the studio, and the, the, 00:19:54.824 --> 00:19:59.685 the commercial studio we're all in this little tiny space and inside that tiny 00:19:59.685 --> 00:20:04.115 space you had to buy into Bonzolia. 00:20:04.115 --> 00:20:05.875 Which sounds crazy. 00:20:06.600 --> 00:20:09.770 Jake Edwards: Bonzolia to me, I had no idea what the hell it was, but getting 00:20:09.770 --> 00:20:13.190 back to Chris McGregor when I walked in there and he goes, he has a joint, he 00:20:13.190 --> 00:20:17.360 goes, by the way, you don't come into Bonzolia unless you smoke this joint. 00:20:17.360 --> 00:20:19.640 I'm like, well, I just got off a fucking plane. 00:20:19.940 --> 00:20:22.340 I'm freezing, I'm frozen. 00:20:22.430 --> 00:20:23.570 I'm not feeling well. 00:20:23.570 --> 00:20:25.130 So anyway, I'm high as shit. 00:20:25.310 --> 00:20:27.050 Then it's upstairs to upper management. 00:20:27.170 --> 00:20:30.470 I'm the same, I'm the same, i've got the three piece suit on. 00:20:30.470 --> 00:20:32.630 I walk in and, and they just looked at me. 00:20:32.690 --> 00:20:34.970 Where the hell do you think you're going? 00:20:35.660 --> 00:20:36.080 I don't know. 00:20:36.080 --> 00:20:36.860 I'm high right now. 00:20:36.860 --> 00:20:38.365 Terry DiMonte: Did you, did you wear a suit? 00:20:38.365 --> 00:20:38.795 Jake Edwards: I had a suit. 00:20:38.795 --> 00:20:39.885 Terry DiMonte: You had a suit on too. 00:20:39.885 --> 00:20:40.825 I didn't know that. 00:20:41.030 --> 00:20:43.520 Jake Edwards: Yeah, I had a full suit on and I thought, you know, 00:20:43.520 --> 00:20:45.650 you're there, you're dressed to impress trying to make it. 00:20:46.340 --> 00:20:47.150 Terry DiMonte: Of course, yeah. 00:20:47.180 --> 00:20:49.640 Jake Edwards: You know, not, I'd already decided, in my 00:20:49.640 --> 00:20:51.170 mind, I was not gonna work here. 00:20:51.445 --> 00:20:52.380 Terry DiMonte: Oh, oh, you had, eh? 00:20:52.620 --> 00:20:55.320 Jake Edwards: But when, as soon as I saw the weather, I said, this is ridiculous. 00:20:55.625 --> 00:20:57.570 Jim Conrad: I can't, I cannot work in Winnipeg. 00:20:57.570 --> 00:20:57.870 Jake Edwards: No. 00:20:57.870 --> 00:21:00.930 And then, you know, you get into cars if anybody who's ever went lived in 00:21:00.930 --> 00:21:04.950 Winnipeg, and the first thing you notice in the, in the shopping mall, there's 00:21:04.950 --> 00:21:07.290 plugs going into cars off the front. 00:21:07.530 --> 00:21:09.360 What, what are people plugging cars? 00:21:09.390 --> 00:21:10.500 What, what is that all about? 00:21:10.500 --> 00:21:11.070 Jim Conrad: Block heaters. 00:21:11.130 --> 00:21:11.820 Jake Edwards: Block heaters. 00:21:11.820 --> 00:21:13.830 Never saw a block heater in my fricking life. 00:21:13.830 --> 00:21:14.345 Jim Conrad: No, no. 00:21:14.460 --> 00:21:17.110 Jake Edwards: And uh, and then you get up and drive on square tires, 00:21:17.430 --> 00:21:21.390 and then the tires start to warm up. 00:21:22.975 --> 00:21:23.265 Terry DiMonte: Yeah. 00:21:23.820 --> 00:21:25.980 And if you had a, I had a Volkswagen. 00:21:25.980 --> 00:21:32.240 If you had a 4, you know, if you had a stick, you know, it was like, like, you 00:21:32.240 --> 00:21:36.170 know, like you had to really push it, but I, I think you would agree with me. 00:21:36.530 --> 00:21:37.970 I fell in love with that town. 00:21:37.970 --> 00:21:38.600 I still love that. 00:21:38.600 --> 00:21:39.415 Jake Edwards: Oh, I, I did too. 00:21:39.575 --> 00:21:40.250 Terry DiMonte: I still love that town. 00:21:40.250 --> 00:21:43.879 Jake Edwards: Anybody that ever shit talks Winnipeg, I just go, this is 00:21:43.879 --> 00:21:47.030 where I cut my creative funny bone. 00:21:47.030 --> 00:21:51.410 Jim Conrad: So earlier we were talking about, uh, content and, uh, performance 00:21:51.410 --> 00:21:57.950 and audience and having the audience be as an important component as the content. 00:21:58.370 --> 00:22:02.690 Would you say that the community of Winnipeg or the, or any community 00:22:02.690 --> 00:22:08.330 that you were a broadcaster in, Montreal, Vancouver, Winnipeg, Calgary, 00:22:08.820 --> 00:22:14.190 that community also informs your content and, and makes it better? 00:22:14.250 --> 00:22:14.790 Jake Edwards: Well, sure. 00:22:14.790 --> 00:22:16.680 I mean, you come up with creative ideas. 00:22:16.680 --> 00:22:20.520 Like we had a thing called the beater contest, the Winnipeg Beater contest. 00:22:20.520 --> 00:22:23.350 'Cause if you're in Winnipeg, you didn't drive your regular car? 00:22:23.770 --> 00:22:26.669 You had to go out and buy a shit box to drive around. 00:22:26.669 --> 00:22:29.399 So we had this Winnipeg beater contest. 00:22:29.399 --> 00:22:33.600 They would bring in the best beaters and we would drive by new 00:22:33.659 --> 00:22:35.760 parking lots with these old beaters. 00:22:35.760 --> 00:22:38.754 It was, and at the end, we gave away the ultimate beater. 00:22:38.814 --> 00:22:43.495 So the guy that won it, he had a bed, a, a steel bed on the top, as 00:22:43.495 --> 00:22:45.385 they called it, the luggage rack. 00:22:47.129 --> 00:22:52.014 And, and on the front he had a goose's neck that was from a real 00:22:52.014 --> 00:22:54.355 goose that he popped riveted on. 00:22:54.355 --> 00:22:57.925 And the things flapping all around as we're driving down the road and on the 00:22:57.925 --> 00:23:02.605 back there's a real cow's tail that was severed somehow into the trunk thing. 00:23:02.845 --> 00:23:03.625 And I just went, 00:23:03.625 --> 00:23:05.125 Jim Conrad: One of the very first hybrid vehicle. 00:23:05.215 --> 00:23:05.544 Jake Edwards: Yes. 00:23:05.544 --> 00:23:10.284 So I thought, you know, we can't let this guy lose 'cause I think he will kill us. 00:23:10.945 --> 00:23:14.875 Terry DiMonte: But you know, to your point, Jim, I, I think one of the things, 00:23:14.875 --> 00:23:18.294 Jim Conrad: You're a better broadcaster because most of your broadcasting was 00:23:18.385 --> 00:23:21.054 done in Montreal and you're a Montrealer. 00:23:21.245 --> 00:23:25.375 And so because of that fact, the community, you knew the community. 00:23:25.670 --> 00:23:26.980 The community knew you. 00:23:27.320 --> 00:23:28.560 And it made you a better broadcaster. 00:23:28.580 --> 00:23:29.360 Terry DiMonte: But you know what, yeah. 00:23:29.435 --> 00:23:32.170 I, I, I don't disagree with that, but I learned that in Winnipeg. 00:23:32.740 --> 00:23:39.020 Because I remember, again, it was Magic who said to me one day, he said, um, 00:23:39.050 --> 00:23:43.910 probably a week after I got there, I was outside the office or outside his 00:23:43.910 --> 00:23:47.570 office, and we were talking about, I was telling stories about Montreal, and he 00:23:47.570 --> 00:23:49.280 said, Hey, TD, can I tell you something? 00:23:49.280 --> 00:23:49.940 And I said, what? 00:23:49.970 --> 00:23:53.030 He said, you're, you're not a Montrealer anymore. 00:23:53.180 --> 00:23:54.260 He said, you're a Manitoban. 00:23:54.620 --> 00:23:59.420 He said, you now live in Winnipeg and your job is to reflect 00:23:59.420 --> 00:24:00.860 the city back to the city. 00:24:01.250 --> 00:24:03.830 So he said, I want you to go out and get involved. 00:24:03.830 --> 00:24:05.420 And I said, do doing what? 00:24:05.810 --> 00:24:06.555 He said, do anything. 00:24:07.379 --> 00:24:11.939 He said rake lawns, uh, get involved in minor sports, do 00:24:11.939 --> 00:24:14.489 something, but learn the city. 00:24:14.790 --> 00:24:18.590 When somebody says to you, the St. James Arena, you gotta know where that is. 00:24:18.889 --> 00:24:23.319 When somebody says to you, the corner of dada and dada in West Kildonan, 00:24:23.520 --> 00:24:24.750 you gotta know where that is. 00:24:24.750 --> 00:24:26.340 Jake Edwards: You have to, you gotta know the right names too. 00:24:26.370 --> 00:24:26.540 Terry DiMonte: Yeah. 00:24:26.540 --> 00:24:31.620 You have to think like a Winnipeger and you, you're now a Manitoban and I 00:24:31.620 --> 00:24:34.020 bought into that hook, line and sinker. 00:24:34.020 --> 00:24:37.500 I ended up coaching minor hockey and I ended up, I ended 00:24:37.500 --> 00:24:39.580 up really embracing the city. 00:24:39.820 --> 00:24:44.040 And when I moved to Calgary, after being in, in, uh, Montreal for years 00:24:44.040 --> 00:24:49.889 and years and years, I was out and about and I would drive to neighborhoods. 00:24:50.500 --> 00:24:54.700 I would take pictures of schools and write their names down and then go 00:24:54.700 --> 00:24:57.910 home and make notes about where those schools were, what communities they were. 00:24:57.910 --> 00:25:01.510 So when somebody said to me, you know, Sir Winston Churchill School, I 00:25:01.510 --> 00:25:03.510 knew that that was in that community. 00:25:03.890 --> 00:25:05.860 You know, like I was trying to become a Calgarian. 00:25:05.860 --> 00:25:10.400 I never really had time to become a Calgarian, but that's, I learned 00:25:10.400 --> 00:25:14.200 that in Winnipeg, it was much easier in Montreal 'cause I was from there. 00:25:14.320 --> 00:25:17.710 You know, I could, I, and I always believed that you, you know, 00:25:17.710 --> 00:25:19.600 you paint pictures with words. 00:25:19.600 --> 00:25:21.130 That's the way radio works. 00:25:21.400 --> 00:25:25.900 So when you talk about, you know, when I say to Jake, Ray and Jerry's, 00:25:25.930 --> 00:25:27.910 he knows exactly where that is. 00:25:27.970 --> 00:25:31.285 And I know you can see the sign in the red booths in your head that's, 00:25:31.405 --> 00:25:32.645 Jake Edwards: I can taste the steak sandwich. 00:25:32.645 --> 00:25:33.524 Terry DiMonte: That's the way radio works. 00:25:33.795 --> 00:25:35.770 So you have to become part of the community. 00:25:35.770 --> 00:25:38.610 And I learned that in Winnipeg at CITI-FM. 00:25:38.770 --> 00:25:41.830 Jake Edwards: Well, you know, him giving you that lesson didn't go 00:25:41.830 --> 00:25:43.570 as well as the lesson he gave me. 00:25:44.115 --> 00:25:47.025 I walked in, I was full of piss and vinegar thinking. 00:25:47.025 --> 00:25:48.205 Jim Conrad: So this is Gary, Gary Aube. 00:25:48.855 --> 00:25:48.875 Jake Edwards: Gary Aube. 00:25:48.875 --> 00:25:50.080 Jim Conrad: And he's just tired you from. 00:25:50.300 --> 00:25:52.995 Jake Edwards: Yeah, well, I, I've been on the air for about a year. 00:25:53.205 --> 00:25:53.655 Jim Conrad: Oh, okay. 00:25:53.655 --> 00:25:56.055 Jake Edwards: And I'm sitting there and I'm pretty, feeling 00:25:56.055 --> 00:25:57.165 pretty good about myself. 00:25:57.165 --> 00:26:00.795 You know, I'm doing commercials, I'm doing, you know, the pros and stuff. 00:26:00.885 --> 00:26:02.355 He's feeling really good about myself. 00:26:02.355 --> 00:26:02.415 Terry DiMonte: Yeah. 00:26:02.415 --> 00:26:04.485 He's, he's being modest, which he often is not. 00:26:04.575 --> 00:26:04.725 Jake Edwards: No. 00:26:04.725 --> 00:26:06.735 Well, anyway, that's true. 00:26:07.215 --> 00:26:07.875 You know me. 00:26:08.245 --> 00:26:13.395 Terry DiMonte: And, and, but you set the town on fire in, in like a month and, 00:26:13.395 --> 00:26:17.805 and people were begging you to do your commercials for them and stuff, and you 00:26:17.805 --> 00:26:19.875 were a hit within a month or two, Jake. 00:26:19.905 --> 00:26:22.725 Jake Edwards: Well, I, you know, and I kind of felt that that was happening. 00:26:22.725 --> 00:26:25.635 And then I walked in the office and Gary said, have a seat. 00:26:25.995 --> 00:26:26.955 And I went, oh, great. 00:26:26.955 --> 00:26:27.795 Jim Conrad: Close the door behind you. 00:26:27.795 --> 00:26:28.695 Jake Edwards: Close the door behind me. 00:26:28.695 --> 00:26:28.840 Terry DiMonte: Getting a raise. 00:26:29.430 --> 00:26:30.945 Jake Edwards: Yeah, I'm gonna get a raise right now. 00:26:31.725 --> 00:26:34.185 So he said, uh, so how you feeling? 00:26:34.185 --> 00:26:35.295 I said, I feel pretty good. 00:26:35.295 --> 00:26:36.345 I think I'm coming along. 00:26:36.645 --> 00:26:39.375 He said, what the fuck is wrong with your voice? 00:26:39.815 --> 00:26:40.395 Jim Conrad: Oh, no. 00:26:40.395 --> 00:26:43.585 And I went, what? 00:26:43.585 --> 00:26:47.709 Because don't forget, I came back from a, you know, shotgun kind of, you know, 00:26:47.819 --> 00:26:53.489 AM radio screaming like Wolfman Jack, all those, uh, high octane screaming, 00:26:53.489 --> 00:26:55.590 hitting vocals on music and records. 00:26:55.590 --> 00:26:56.580 That was my deal. 00:26:56.610 --> 00:27:02.669 So when I came into FM, uh, I started introing FM records, which was never done. 00:27:02.699 --> 00:27:04.020 It was never done. 00:27:04.199 --> 00:27:08.310 They treated FM like you, you have this history about this 00:27:08.310 --> 00:27:09.899 rock piece before you play it. 00:27:10.229 --> 00:27:12.659 My idea of fun was basically, 00:27:12.689 --> 00:27:13.465 Terry DiMonte: Fuck that. 00:27:13.675 --> 00:27:14.314 Jim Conrad: Fuck that. 00:27:14.314 --> 00:27:14.584 Jake Edwards: Fuck that, yeah. 00:27:14.584 --> 00:27:19.350 How I felt about music and how, how, the kind of energy I used to put into 00:27:19.350 --> 00:27:22.770 the song and the call letters and then it fired up and it started to work. 00:27:22.800 --> 00:27:24.020 'Cause it'd never been heard before. 00:27:24.139 --> 00:27:25.139 Nobody's ever done it. 00:27:25.260 --> 00:27:28.770 And I got my training in Moncton when I was put on the airways. 00:27:28.770 --> 00:27:30.330 I did an AM and FM show. 00:27:30.690 --> 00:27:34.440 And then on FM I'd be playing ACDC and just ripping into these 00:27:34.440 --> 00:27:35.790 intros, which had never been done. 00:27:35.790 --> 00:27:38.340 So I was kind of ready, I had it in my mind, this is what I want to do. 00:27:38.700 --> 00:27:41.880 So Gary says, what is, what is, what is going on there? 00:27:42.210 --> 00:27:43.140 And I went, what? 00:27:43.440 --> 00:27:45.960 And I remember I was so shocked. 00:27:46.320 --> 00:27:51.510 And he brought me down to more of a leveling of the voice and a, and 00:27:51.510 --> 00:27:56.730 a leveling of that shotgun kind of, jock to bring it down and to 00:27:56.730 --> 00:27:58.350 tone the energy down a little bit. 00:27:58.350 --> 00:28:00.060 'Cause I never had to look for energy. 00:28:00.060 --> 00:28:00.900 It was always there. 00:28:01.260 --> 00:28:03.180 And I remember getting in the car and driving home, and 00:28:03.180 --> 00:28:04.550 I actually started crying. 00:28:04.690 --> 00:28:06.510 I just went, how could he say that to me? 00:28:06.690 --> 00:28:06.960 You know? 00:28:06.960 --> 00:28:08.020 And I was just shocked. 00:28:08.020 --> 00:28:10.740 And then he called me and said, are you okay? 00:28:10.740 --> 00:28:13.020 And I said, well, I, I'm, I'm kind of hurt. 00:28:13.380 --> 00:28:14.280 I'm really kind of hurt. 00:28:14.280 --> 00:28:15.180 And then he said. 00:28:15.600 --> 00:28:17.430 Uh, well, how do you, what, what do you think? 00:28:17.430 --> 00:28:18.060 What are you gonna do? 00:28:18.060 --> 00:28:19.590 And I said, well, I'm gonna give this a shot. 00:28:19.620 --> 00:28:21.150 But he was absolutely right. 00:28:21.240 --> 00:28:22.440 Terry DiMonte: I forgot about this. 00:28:22.560 --> 00:28:29.550 You deserve credit for this because you changed the way FM radio was presented. 00:28:29.610 --> 00:28:34.740 Because, um, if you know the song by Black Sabbath called Neon Knights, Neon Knights 00:28:34.740 --> 00:28:37.640 has quite an, an, an impressive intro. 00:28:38.040 --> 00:28:39.850 And it's pretty frenetic. 00:28:40.590 --> 00:28:43.290 And, um, we, of course, Jake was hired. 00:28:43.290 --> 00:28:43.980 We didn't know him. 00:28:43.980 --> 00:28:47.310 We didn't know who he was, what he did, where he came from, and it, 00:28:47.370 --> 00:28:48.540 it might've been your opening day. 00:28:49.455 --> 00:28:54.675 But anyway, I was up to hear Jake and um, because I think I was still doing 00:28:54.675 --> 00:28:56.175 the only, or maybe I was doing drive. 00:28:56.205 --> 00:28:57.074 Anyway, it doesn't matter. 00:28:57.074 --> 00:29:02.534 At 6 AM Neon Knights came on and away you went with the intro. 00:29:02.685 --> 00:29:06.975 Jake Edwards: This is Brother Jake on 92 CITI-FM, the 360,000 00:29:06.975 --> 00:29:08.925 watt power drip star cruiser. 00:29:09.314 --> 00:29:11.084 Black Sabbath of Neon Knights. 00:29:11.175 --> 00:29:12.195 Come get some. 00:29:12.195 --> 00:29:13.820 Oh no. 00:29:16.514 --> 00:29:19.094 Terry DiMonte: Jake did an intro over that, that really 00:29:19.094 --> 00:29:21.435 belonged on WABC in New York. 00:29:21.495 --> 00:29:21.885 Really. 00:29:21.930 --> 00:29:26.100 It was that kind of intro, but when I look back on it, you actually 00:29:26.100 --> 00:29:31.560 changed the way FM radio was presented because there was this whole, um, uh, 00:29:32.280 --> 00:29:33.750 I, what's the word I'm looking for? 00:29:33.750 --> 00:29:38.190 There was this reverence about the intro to, you know, uh, 00:29:38.190 --> 00:29:39.360 Jim Conrad: You couldn't talk over that. 00:29:39.365 --> 00:29:39.630 Terry DiMonte: Yeah, yeah. 00:29:39.630 --> 00:29:42.660 You didn't talk over Roundabout because you don't want to talk over 00:29:42.660 --> 00:29:46.230 the, you know, the beautiful guitar that, uh, Steve Howe was playing 00:29:46.230 --> 00:29:47.410 or whoever, you know what I mean? 00:29:47.410 --> 00:29:50.070 It was you and, and Jake was like, no, no. 00:29:50.070 --> 00:29:51.240 That's all part of the energy. 00:29:51.240 --> 00:29:53.640 But you know what I think he did when he did that to you? 00:29:53.970 --> 00:29:55.350 He made you a better storyteller. 00:29:55.950 --> 00:29:57.540 He made you a better communicator. 00:29:57.540 --> 00:29:57.655 Jake Edwards: Yeah, he did. 00:29:57.925 --> 00:29:58.815 Terry DiMonte: Right. 00:29:58.815 --> 00:30:00.795 You stopped, you, it, it was 00:30:01.035 --> 00:30:02.095 Jim Conrad: Stop talking at the audience. 00:30:02.095 --> 00:30:05.160 Terry DiMonte: Well, it, it's, it became less about performative 00:30:05.340 --> 00:30:07.030 and more about communicative. 00:30:07.180 --> 00:30:07.760 I think. 00:30:08.110 --> 00:30:09.015 Or am I full of shit? 00:30:09.045 --> 00:30:10.395 Jake Edwards: No, you're not full of shit. 00:30:10.905 --> 00:30:11.835 You're not full of shit. 00:30:11.835 --> 00:30:13.005 You're one of my best friends. 00:30:13.005 --> 00:30:17.385 And what we did back there during that whole thing, uh, when 00:30:17.385 --> 00:30:19.935 it started was so incredible. 00:30:19.935 --> 00:30:24.145 I remember I used to be the guy that would go out and try to get us stuff, right? 00:30:24.145 --> 00:30:28.035 I always try to get us stuff and I said, Terry, what about that old Volkswagen? 00:30:28.035 --> 00:30:31.845 What about, isn't it time that we go get a couple of high performance cars? 00:30:31.875 --> 00:30:33.675 He went, ah, what, what are you talking about? 00:30:33.675 --> 00:30:36.815 So anyway, I got a Corvette and he got a Camaro. 00:30:36.815 --> 00:30:38.945 Terry DiMonte: Camaro Z/28. 00:30:38.945 --> 00:30:41.775 Jake Edwards: We, we're on these two giant billboards and we're standing over 00:30:41.775 --> 00:30:45.485 the hoods of the car, that said, let us drive you home or whatever the thing was. 00:30:45.485 --> 00:30:47.005 I'll never forget that that was. 00:30:47.195 --> 00:30:48.375 Terry DiMonte: And I, I'm 20. 00:30:48.805 --> 00:30:53.639 Or whatever I was, and I would secretly, after my show, I would 00:30:53.639 --> 00:30:55.500 go drive to the billboard and park. 00:30:56.790 --> 00:31:01.889 I go, holy fuck, I'm on a billboard. 00:31:01.889 --> 00:31:04.169 Look at that. 00:31:05.219 --> 00:31:08.459 Jim Conrad: Uh, for both of you, when you were growing up in Montreal, growing 00:31:08.459 --> 00:31:15.780 up in Moncton, what was the first spark that flipped the switch in your brain 00:31:15.780 --> 00:31:20.879 that said, maybe, maybe I can do this, maybe I could become a broadcaster. 00:31:20.910 --> 00:31:24.420 Jake Edwards: See, I, you know, when my dad bought me that little 6 transistor, 00:31:24.420 --> 00:31:25.710 remember the little leather case? 00:31:25.710 --> 00:31:27.939 It was a, had a red top with some gold through it? 00:31:27.939 --> 00:31:31.889 It was a 6 transistor, RCA, so my sister and I both got one. 00:31:31.889 --> 00:31:34.290 She was 11 and I was 12. 00:31:34.470 --> 00:31:38.100 And I remember going to bed at night putting the earphone in 00:31:38.490 --> 00:31:40.740 and you know, there's no video games, there's no internet. 00:31:40.770 --> 00:31:44.440 That right there with the skip that came across in the evening. 00:31:44.690 --> 00:31:47.460 You could pick up stations all the way down the eastern seaboard. 00:31:47.730 --> 00:31:52.110 Uh, it, it was amazing the coverage you used to get and immediately when 00:31:52.110 --> 00:31:54.659 I heard it I said, I can do this. 00:31:54.659 --> 00:31:55.740 I want to do this. 00:31:55.740 --> 00:31:57.990 I absolutely want to do this. 00:31:57.990 --> 00:32:00.510 And I drove everybody insane. 00:32:00.840 --> 00:32:04.670 So I got my father to go out and we got a reel to reel with the microphones. 00:32:04.670 --> 00:32:09.940 And I started just going and interviewing and doing crazy voices and recording and 00:32:09.940 --> 00:32:14.790 singing, playing radio, and gritting the guitar, uh, and strumming it along and 00:32:14.790 --> 00:32:17.940 getting, you know, anybody that came into the room, I would try to interview them. 00:32:18.270 --> 00:32:23.460 And then as I got closer and closer, you know, 15, 16, my dad takes me 00:32:23.580 --> 00:32:25.830 to the CNR and he said, no, boy. 00:32:25.919 --> 00:32:27.490 And he had a Maritime accent, you know? 00:32:27.810 --> 00:32:28.230 Hey, bye. 00:32:28.230 --> 00:32:31.139 You know, geez, uh, you're gonna be driving an overhead 00:32:31.139 --> 00:32:32.310 crane just like your father. 00:32:32.370 --> 00:32:33.480 I said, an overhead crane. 00:32:33.810 --> 00:32:36.930 I said, there's no way I can pass the eye test because I'm actually 00:32:37.169 --> 00:32:38.840 clinically blind in my left eye. 00:32:39.210 --> 00:32:41.280 He said, you'll learn the goddamn eye chart. 00:32:41.280 --> 00:32:42.690 I know the eye doctor in there. 00:32:42.690 --> 00:32:43.350 We're gonna get you in. 00:32:44.190 --> 00:32:47.190 I said, there's no fricking way I'm, I don't want to do this, dad. 00:32:47.520 --> 00:32:51.480 So he went in and I'm doing the eye chart and the minute and the minute, 00:32:51.855 --> 00:32:55.305 I, I thought, I could have pulled this off because I, all I had to do 00:32:55.305 --> 00:32:58.965 was memorize the, you know, you'd have enough vision to actually go in 00:32:58.965 --> 00:33:02.735 there and I purposely flunked that 'cause I didn't want to go in, and 00:33:02.825 --> 00:33:05.235 then he was so disappointed for years. 00:33:05.265 --> 00:33:09.270 He, and then when I got into radio, he said, this is, what are you doing? 00:33:09.480 --> 00:33:10.950 Why are you doing this? 00:33:11.190 --> 00:33:13.860 And then, you know, it just kind of, it just kind of rose up. 00:33:14.100 --> 00:33:18.510 And I was ready to hit the airwaves and I just, I'm sounding 00:33:18.510 --> 00:33:19.950 like a fricking narcissist now. 00:33:19.950 --> 00:33:21.840 Which, you know, part narcissist. 00:33:22.170 --> 00:33:23.100 I'm part narcissist. 00:33:23.100 --> 00:33:23.910 Terry DiMonte: No, Jake. 00:33:23.970 --> 00:33:24.240 Jake Edwards: Yeah, yeah. 00:33:24.270 --> 00:33:25.860 Terry DiMonte: No, no, no, no, no. 00:33:25.860 --> 00:33:26.010 Come on. 00:33:26.010 --> 00:33:26.430 Jake Edwards: Are you sure? 00:33:26.490 --> 00:33:26.730 Terry DiMonte: Yeah. 00:33:26.790 --> 00:33:26.910 No, 00:33:26.910 --> 00:33:27.270 Jake Edwards: Look at me. 00:33:27.270 --> 00:33:27.810 I look like one. 00:33:27.810 --> 00:33:28.950 Terry DiMonte: You're, you're a confident man. 00:33:30.540 --> 00:33:32.520 Jake Edwards: But I, you know, I kind of, this is what I wanted 00:33:32.520 --> 00:33:34.260 to do and I never looked back. 00:33:34.260 --> 00:33:38.190 There was never anything, I played a lot of sports at that point until I got 00:33:38.190 --> 00:33:40.470 into radio and then everything stopped. 00:33:40.470 --> 00:33:41.880 There was no more sports. 00:33:42.060 --> 00:33:47.180 It was all about being on the radio, in the car with my friends, music coming on. 00:33:47.400 --> 00:33:48.960 And all I did was intros in the car. 00:33:48.960 --> 00:33:50.280 They, I drove them insane. 00:33:50.430 --> 00:33:53.190 Jim Conrad: So you played radio until you finally got a gig in radio? 00:33:53.290 --> 00:33:54.110 Jake Edwards: Pretty much. 00:33:54.460 --> 00:33:55.000 Pretty much. 00:33:55.050 --> 00:33:55.890 Jim Conrad: Now, Terry, how about you? 00:33:56.430 --> 00:33:59.850 Terry DiMonte: Um, it, my, there's a couple of things. 00:33:59.850 --> 00:34:05.070 I, I, when I was 5 or 6, my, my parents bought me a, um, you know, one of those 00:34:05.070 --> 00:34:08.190 little plastic tonearm record players. 00:34:08.860 --> 00:34:12.780 And they grabbed just, they grabbed a 45 out of the Woolworths 00:34:13.199 --> 00:34:16.710 counter, and it happened to be She loves You by the Beatles. 00:34:18.350 --> 00:34:19.929 I, I played that record. 00:34:19.980 --> 00:34:23.490 My mom said, I played that record 77,000 times a day. 00:34:23.790 --> 00:34:29.699 And I remember being a kid, uh, there was a, a girl that lived next door and, 00:34:29.699 --> 00:34:31.350 uh, I played with her little brother. 00:34:31.350 --> 00:34:34.830 And I remember when the Beatles came on, she would, come on the radio 00:34:34.980 --> 00:34:37.560 and she would scream and run into the kitchen and turn up the radio. 00:34:37.560 --> 00:34:40.380 And I remember being a kid thinking, that's interesting. 00:34:40.590 --> 00:34:44.699 She's, the music coming outta that little box on the counter. 00:34:45.179 --> 00:34:48.150 And, and then my grandfather had bought a reel to reel and 00:34:48.150 --> 00:34:49.469 I started to play with that. 00:34:50.040 --> 00:34:54.150 And I think it's, the way Jake describes the, it's, it's 00:34:54.150 --> 00:34:55.710 kind of like you get a bug. 00:34:56.475 --> 00:34:59.355 You know, like, it, it just, I was the same way. 00:34:59.355 --> 00:35:01.245 It's all I thought about when I was 11, 12. 00:35:01.245 --> 00:35:01.895 Jim Conrad: You become obsessed. 00:35:01.955 --> 00:35:03.194 Terry DiMonte: I just became obsessed. 00:35:03.194 --> 00:35:05.374 I did what Jake did with the earpiece. 00:35:05.504 --> 00:35:08.595 And on a cold night, you could get radio stations from Minneapolis. 00:35:08.595 --> 00:35:13.245 And I just became obsessed and I just, I couldn't get enough of it. 00:35:13.305 --> 00:35:18.435 And I remember the first time I begged a guy that worked at what was called 00:35:18.435 --> 00:35:26.285 CFOX in Montreal, before they bought the call letters, I begged and begged and 00:35:26.285 --> 00:35:27.785 begged and begged and begged and begged. 00:35:27.785 --> 00:35:31.145 A guy, a guy, guy's name was Andy K. And he said, I'm not 00:35:31.145 --> 00:35:32.194 allowed to have people in here. 00:35:32.194 --> 00:35:35.884 You can come up at midnight for 10 minutes and then you gotta go. 00:35:36.185 --> 00:35:39.575 And I remember when he pushed the control room door open, it was, you know, it 00:35:39.575 --> 00:35:44.345 was 12:05, he pushed the control room door open and anybody who works in radio 00:35:44.345 --> 00:35:48.525 knows what a control room looks like in the dark with that digital yellow 00:35:48.525 --> 00:35:52.674 clock with the seconds ticking off and the red and green lights on the board. 00:35:53.055 --> 00:35:57.384 And I remember being like, it just, it washed over me. 00:35:57.384 --> 00:35:59.384 I thought, this is where I belong. 00:35:59.404 --> 00:36:01.745 I have got to figure out how to do this for a living. 00:36:01.865 --> 00:36:03.274 Jim Conrad: And what was your first gig? 00:36:03.890 --> 00:36:08.420 Terry DiMonte: My very first gig was through sheer luck, was in Churchill. 00:36:08.420 --> 00:36:14.060 I, I went to remember the days of television when at the top of the 00:36:14.060 --> 00:36:18.440 hour they would come on, an announcer would come on, you would know this, 00:36:19.040 --> 00:36:21.630 CBC television Channel six Montreal. 00:36:22.210 --> 00:36:23.370 And that's all you would do. 00:36:23.370 --> 00:36:24.180 Jim Conrad: A station ID. 00:36:24.210 --> 00:36:24.450 Terry DiMonte: Right. 00:36:24.470 --> 00:36:26.900 You would sit in the booth for 8 hours and they were looking 00:36:26.900 --> 00:36:28.190 for summer relief people. 00:36:28.190 --> 00:36:28.920 And I applied. 00:36:28.980 --> 00:36:33.110 I, I went and auditioned at the CBC and I didn't get it, but there was a 00:36:33.110 --> 00:36:36.800 woman there that said, I, you know, you asked me to be honest with you. 00:36:37.310 --> 00:36:40.850 Um, she said, I, I hear something about you that I like and I'm gonna 00:36:40.850 --> 00:36:47.025 send your audition tape to Ottawa to a, a division called Northern Service. 00:36:47.025 --> 00:36:48.165 I didn't know what that was. 00:36:48.225 --> 00:36:50.520 And they called me and off I went. 00:36:50.520 --> 00:36:52.455 Jim Conrad: And off you were to the land of polar bears. 00:36:52.455 --> 00:36:52.725 Terry DiMonte: Yeah. 00:36:52.725 --> 00:36:55.815 I was just, I, I didn't even know I, I said yes. 00:36:55.815 --> 00:36:57.405 I didn't even know where Churchill was. 00:36:58.185 --> 00:36:59.145 Like I had to go home. 00:36:59.205 --> 00:37:00.945 You know, I, 'cause I was unfamiliar with it. 00:37:00.945 --> 00:37:03.585 I thought it, I thought, am I going to Churchill Falls? 00:37:03.615 --> 00:37:05.775 No, that's, that's the other end of the country. 00:37:05.805 --> 00:37:08.535 Anyway, it just, you know, and off I went. 00:37:08.535 --> 00:37:14.124 I just, and, and I got lucky because at CBC in the north, you're doing everything. 00:37:14.745 --> 00:37:19.464 You're cutting tape, producing, editing, interviewing, doing sports, doing news 00:37:19.464 --> 00:37:23.634 like, you know, the, the population when I got to Churchill was 2,800. 00:37:23.634 --> 00:37:23.785 Jim Conrad: Wow. 00:37:23.785 --> 00:37:26.455 Jake Edwards: But every small radio station I've ever worked 00:37:26.455 --> 00:37:27.794 in, that's what you did. 00:37:27.794 --> 00:37:29.684 You had to label the carts. 00:37:30.104 --> 00:37:31.345 You had the voice, the carts. 00:37:31.345 --> 00:37:34.375 You had to mix the music, you had to put 'em in rotation. 00:37:34.555 --> 00:37:38.424 The next guy in the morning show, you had to take all these big huge bundle of 00:37:38.424 --> 00:37:43.765 carts that you've stacked for an hour as you're doing 3 minute songs, putting it 00:37:43.765 --> 00:37:46.825 on, and then getting into it and go CKCW. 00:37:47.785 --> 00:37:52.615 And then he'd go to go to move the cart thing and it falls all over the floor 00:37:52.765 --> 00:37:54.084 and you're pissed off just trying. 00:37:54.174 --> 00:37:58.495 Terry DiMonte: I, but don't, I, I feel bad that, you know, I'm gonna sound like 00:37:58.495 --> 00:38:02.365 an old bastard, but I feel bad that the business has changed so much that that 00:38:02.365 --> 00:38:04.105 experience isn't available anymore. 00:38:04.435 --> 00:38:07.825 Jake Edwards: Well, it really prepared you to be quick on your feet. 00:38:07.825 --> 00:38:08.365 Terry DiMonte: Big time. 00:38:08.384 --> 00:38:08.444 Yeah. 00:38:08.444 --> 00:38:10.424 Jake Edwards: Quick on your feet to get everything organized. 00:38:10.424 --> 00:38:14.654 Jim Conrad: Now, Jake, so your first gig, uh, you played radio and then? 00:38:14.685 --> 00:38:15.855 Jake Edwards: Well, when I went to Boston, 00:38:15.855 --> 00:38:16.935 Jim Conrad: Then you went to Boston to? 00:38:16.964 --> 00:38:17.874 Jake Edwards: Leland Powers. 00:38:17.904 --> 00:38:20.654 The School of Acting Journalism TV. 00:38:21.015 --> 00:38:22.935 And, uh, had a good time there. 00:38:22.935 --> 00:38:27.404 And I had a radio show there, and that was, you know, internal to the school. 00:38:27.714 --> 00:38:30.464 So that's the first time, you know, that was just practice. 00:38:30.464 --> 00:38:33.254 Then came home and said, well, I'm ready. 00:38:33.345 --> 00:38:34.185 Let's get at it. 00:38:34.275 --> 00:38:35.565 So, you know, applied. 00:38:35.565 --> 00:38:38.955 And by that, you know, then used to send tapes out, air checks out. 00:38:39.134 --> 00:38:43.995 So I just said to myself that summer, let's get in a truck. 00:38:43.995 --> 00:38:48.734 My buddy next door had a Union Jack painted 67 Chevrolet Van. 00:38:50.055 --> 00:38:54.345 We headed up the highway, route 11, and we stopped at every small radio station. 00:38:54.345 --> 00:38:57.045 I said, I am not stopping until I get a gig. 00:38:57.165 --> 00:38:58.095 Until I get a gig. 00:38:58.095 --> 00:38:58.545 Jim Conrad: Wow. 00:38:58.754 --> 00:39:02.535 Jake Edwards: And I went up and, uh, I remember meeting this guy 00:39:02.535 --> 00:39:04.545 named Neil McMullen and Alan Bear. 00:39:04.575 --> 00:39:06.825 And I said, here I am. 00:39:06.825 --> 00:39:09.675 I basically, I really want to get this done. 00:39:09.675 --> 00:39:12.345 I really want to be on the air and I'm not stopping the minute, minute 00:39:12.345 --> 00:39:16.575 I go outta this station, I'm gonna go into Rimouski 'cause I spoke French. 00:39:16.815 --> 00:39:19.515 Uh, and I basically was going to give it on my all until 00:39:19.515 --> 00:39:20.654 I drove right across Canada. 00:39:20.685 --> 00:39:23.505 Terry DiMonte: Do you still have, I, I still have some of my rejection letters. 00:39:23.505 --> 00:39:24.195 Do you have any of 'em? 00:39:24.195 --> 00:39:24.645 Jake Edwards: I do. 00:39:24.675 --> 00:39:25.695 Terry DiMonte: I, I still have some. 00:39:25.700 --> 00:39:25.750 Yeah. 00:39:25.750 --> 00:39:25.870 Jake Edwards: Yeah. 00:39:25.870 --> 00:39:26.775 I thought those are nice. 00:39:26.775 --> 00:39:28.365 Terry DiMonte: Yeah, they're really, they're really, really nice. 00:39:28.365 --> 00:39:32.295 'Cause you had to, you know, I don't know if you did it, but you had to do 00:39:32.295 --> 00:39:33.975 the cassette, put it in an envelope. 00:39:33.975 --> 00:39:36.615 Get the copy of broadcaster, find the address. 00:39:36.615 --> 00:39:37.215 Jim Conrad: You find the address. 00:39:37.275 --> 00:39:37.395 Yeah. 00:39:37.395 --> 00:39:40.365 Terry DiMonte: Put the, put the envelope, you know, and, and mail them. 00:39:41.115 --> 00:39:41.509 Jake Edwards: And then wait for the mail to come back. 00:39:41.509 --> 00:39:45.495 Terry DiMonte: And then wait, and then, you know, 8 outta 10 people didn't 00:39:45.495 --> 00:39:49.275 bother, but you know, one or two people would send you a note saying, you suck. 00:39:49.275 --> 00:39:52.215 Or, you know, I, I, you know, I think you're not bad, but we 00:39:52.215 --> 00:39:53.145 don't have anything for you. 00:39:53.145 --> 00:39:54.375 I still have some of those letters. 00:39:54.435 --> 00:39:55.695 Jake Edwards: Well, the time, 00:39:55.695 --> 00:39:57.015 Terry DiMonte: And those stations are all gone. 00:39:57.075 --> 00:39:57.225 Jake Edwards: Yeah. 00:39:57.900 --> 00:40:00.735 This little CKBC Bathurst was, uh, a French, 00:40:00.735 --> 00:40:01.710 Jim Conrad: So was that the first gig? 00:40:01.710 --> 00:40:02.670 Jake Edwards: That's the first gig. 00:40:02.730 --> 00:40:05.370 And the reason why they wanted me, I'd go... 00:40:11.670 --> 00:40:14.250 and you just go into these tunes and I didn't even know I was just 00:40:14.250 --> 00:40:17.010 fucking throwing shit out there in from playing country music. 00:40:17.280 --> 00:40:18.930 Eight o'clock the rock thing would come on. 00:40:18.930 --> 00:40:23.580 So I'd play rock music and then I believe we used to tap into CBC's, 00:40:23.940 --> 00:40:26.250 is it, was it Anne Frum, or uh, 00:40:26.690 --> 00:40:28.770 Jim Conrad: Barbara Frum, As It Happens. 00:40:28.770 --> 00:40:29.490 Jake Edwards: As It Happens. 00:40:29.490 --> 00:40:32.610 So you'd go into a reel to reel thing, and then at the end of that, 00:40:32.610 --> 00:40:35.880 you'd rock till one in the morning and then shut the transmitter down. 00:40:35.990 --> 00:40:40.680 And we were in a place that was an old, you know, a hundred year old home 00:40:40.680 --> 00:40:42.510 that the wind was coming through it. 00:40:42.510 --> 00:40:45.470 You could hear it on air, it was cold as shit. 00:40:45.640 --> 00:40:49.950 You had blankets, you know, around you in this old shitty station, 00:40:50.310 --> 00:40:52.100 but we loved every minute of it. 00:40:52.100 --> 00:40:57.050 And my first gig, uh, so I get there and there was this Alan, I think 00:40:57.050 --> 00:41:02.160 his name was Alan Whiteside, and he was on the air and he, uh, he quit. 00:41:02.160 --> 00:41:06.510 So I get there on a Tuesday and I'm partying and I'm living with 00:41:06.540 --> 00:41:12.150 five disc jockeys in one house with flags in the window, and 00:41:12.150 --> 00:41:14.610 there's water pipes, there's booze. 00:41:14.730 --> 00:41:15.900 Terry DiMonte: I can smell it from here. 00:41:16.080 --> 00:41:16.560 Jake Edwards: Oh my. 00:41:16.590 --> 00:41:17.100 Oh yeah. 00:41:17.130 --> 00:41:17.850 Very nice. 00:41:18.360 --> 00:41:21.160 So, uh, I'm sitting around, it's Tuesday and this Alan 00:41:21.160 --> 00:41:22.830 Whiteside decides he's gonna quit. 00:41:23.220 --> 00:41:25.980 And then the program director called, he said, you're on here in an hour. 00:41:26.310 --> 00:41:27.630 I said, no, I'm not. 00:41:28.110 --> 00:41:29.970 'Cause I was, I was out of my mind. 00:41:30.270 --> 00:41:33.110 At this point, I've been partying for hours, going, I got the gig. 00:41:33.570 --> 00:41:35.280 And all of a sudden I'm there. 00:41:35.430 --> 00:41:36.600 I tee the record up. 00:41:37.110 --> 00:41:45.890 And I, I go to hit, I go to hit the open mic, I go, ah, dang, dang. 00:41:45.890 --> 00:41:47.640 And then the next record comes around. 00:41:47.640 --> 00:41:48.404 I'm going, ah. 00:41:49.380 --> 00:41:53.190 And it took me three tries, three different records, and finally I went on. 00:41:53.580 --> 00:41:57.420 And then, uh, it, it worked and then I, I started from there. 00:41:57.420 --> 00:41:58.620 Jim Conrad: But, and the rest is history. 00:41:59.009 --> 00:42:00.000 Let me ask you this. 00:42:00.299 --> 00:42:07.650 How much of a ratio between choice and luck was part of your, 00:42:07.710 --> 00:42:08.610 Terry DiMonte: That's a great question. 00:42:08.759 --> 00:42:09.330 Jim Conrad: Career. 00:42:09.509 --> 00:42:12.930 The ratio of choice to luck, or was it lucky choices? 00:42:13.320 --> 00:42:19.020 Jake Edwards: Well, I've always looked at, uh, myself and how most people, first 00:42:19.020 --> 00:42:21.280 of all, you have to have some talent. 00:42:22.140 --> 00:42:25.140 You've gotta have, be able to take risk. 00:42:25.650 --> 00:42:28.830 You can't worry about what's gonna happen on the other end. 00:42:29.279 --> 00:42:33.330 And a lot of it is, there is a big percentage of luck. 00:42:33.330 --> 00:42:38.040 I'm gonna say a third part of that is luck, because you know, you've got 00:42:38.040 --> 00:42:41.269 the talent, you know, you've got the energy, you can do all those things. 00:42:41.759 --> 00:42:43.890 But I think the part, a third of it is luck. 00:42:43.890 --> 00:42:44.880 It's the lucky break. 00:42:44.880 --> 00:42:50.805 It's until you get to a certain plateau where you become a hired gun, and then 00:42:50.835 --> 00:42:54.525 the luck thing seems, it's not as, uh, you know, you're not as lucky. 00:42:54.555 --> 00:42:59.265 Oh God, I, I, you know, I won out over whoever, uh, you know, I was beaten out 00:42:59.265 --> 00:43:02.205 trying to get into this morning show because they were out looking for talent. 00:43:02.205 --> 00:43:06.195 So then the luck kind of balances out where it's not as lucky. 00:43:06.315 --> 00:43:10.125 But in initially when you go in, I kind of put it in three parts. 00:43:10.125 --> 00:43:14.595 Like a lot of, you know, a lot of talent, a lot of energy, wanting 00:43:14.595 --> 00:43:19.245 to do it, and then that luck part is slowly came down over time. 00:43:19.245 --> 00:43:19.484 Jim Conrad: Yeah. 00:43:19.605 --> 00:43:22.935 Um, Terry, um, luck versus choice? 00:43:23.295 --> 00:43:24.705 Terry DiMonte: I, I agree with Jake. 00:43:24.765 --> 00:43:27.705 Um, I, but what's funny is I agree. 00:43:27.765 --> 00:43:29.055 You've gotta have some ability. 00:43:29.055 --> 00:43:30.194 You've gotta have some talent. 00:43:30.194 --> 00:43:34.904 But what's funny about talent is talent comes with a huge pile of insecurity. 00:43:35.024 --> 00:43:38.150 So when you're young you're not sure you're talented. 00:43:38.200 --> 00:43:40.480 And you're afraid they're gonna fire you at any second. 00:43:40.600 --> 00:43:43.030 And when the boss calls you in, as Jake was saying before, 00:43:43.030 --> 00:43:45.100 you think, I'm in trouble. 00:43:45.100 --> 00:43:51.970 And then I think it was luck that I ended up in that building in Polo Park with 00:43:51.970 --> 00:43:54.100 all these unbelievably talented people. 00:43:54.100 --> 00:43:58.960 I think there was a, a real element of luck to me ending up there. 00:43:59.260 --> 00:44:02.290 Um, I think I agree with Jake. 00:44:02.380 --> 00:44:04.570 I, I took a big risk going to Churchill. 00:44:04.570 --> 00:44:07.660 I was shit scared, never been away from home. 00:44:07.660 --> 00:44:11.710 And I ended up on the, you know, verge of the Arctic Circle on the coast of 00:44:11.710 --> 00:44:14.890 Hudson's Bay, you know, when I got there I thought, oh my God, what have I done? 00:44:15.310 --> 00:44:20.170 But then when you, you move along in your career, then you have to be 00:44:20.170 --> 00:44:22.050 able to make choices and take risks. 00:44:22.050 --> 00:44:23.540 Like when I, I went to show 00:44:23.540 --> 00:44:25.100 Jim Conrad: And not be, not be afraid to make a choice. 00:44:25.100 --> 00:44:25.600 Terry DiMonte: Exactly. 00:44:25.900 --> 00:44:26.140 Yeah. 00:44:26.140 --> 00:44:30.700 I, I loved where I was at in Winnipeg when I was in Winnipeg in 84, and I got offered 00:44:30.700 --> 00:44:33.690 the morning show at CHUM FM in Montreal. 00:44:34.080 --> 00:44:35.970 And I'd never done a morning show before. 00:44:36.030 --> 00:44:37.140 I talked to him about it. 00:44:37.200 --> 00:44:40.710 I talked to a few people and I said, ah, fuck, I don't know if I can do this. 00:44:41.280 --> 00:44:44.880 And Jake, and Magic and a few other people said, of course you can do this. 00:44:44.910 --> 00:44:46.020 You'll, you'll figure it out. 00:44:46.500 --> 00:44:50.580 And, and then when, as Jake points out, once the ball gets rolling, like when I 00:44:50.580 --> 00:44:54.090 ended up in Calgary, they phoned me, you know, and then they were headhunting. 00:44:54.090 --> 00:44:54.300 Jake Edwards: Yeah. 00:44:54.300 --> 00:44:55.080 And they wanted you. 00:44:55.110 --> 00:44:55.290 Terry DiMonte: Yeah. 00:44:55.290 --> 00:44:56.340 And they, they wanted me. 00:44:56.340 --> 00:45:00.000 So the, you know, once your career gets going, I, I, I think it's all about choice 00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:05.160 and risk and, and understanding where your talents are gonna work and stuff. 00:45:05.160 --> 00:45:08.730 But I, I think at the beginning, you, you do need a good chunk of luck. 00:45:08.790 --> 00:45:12.540 And I, and that, that third, a third luck, a third talent 00:45:12.540 --> 00:45:13.260 and what was the other thing? 00:45:13.260 --> 00:45:13.770 Jake Edwards: Energy. 00:45:13.770 --> 00:45:14.220 Terry DiMonte: Yeah. 00:45:14.220 --> 00:45:16.230 I, I, I think that's a pretty good theory. 00:45:16.530 --> 00:45:22.440 But I, I really, I am so grateful that I literally stumbled into 00:45:22.440 --> 00:45:24.420 Polo Park in Winnipeg and CITI-FM. 00:45:24.720 --> 00:45:29.530 That set the stage for what was a fairly successful career for me. 00:45:29.944 --> 00:45:32.795 Jim Conrad: Now, uh, you both are morning show hosts. 00:45:32.975 --> 00:45:38.045 How is that day part and how is that job description in radio 00:45:38.045 --> 00:45:40.475 different than all of the others? 00:45:40.475 --> 00:45:45.335 What, what are the unique qualities that, that you guys have honed to be 00:45:45.335 --> 00:45:49.924 able to say, I'm a morning show guy, you can hire me as your new morning 00:45:49.924 --> 00:45:51.845 show man, because I know what to do. 00:45:51.904 --> 00:45:54.154 Terry DiMonte: Well, first of all, um, if 00:45:54.214 --> 00:45:54.904 Jim Conrad: Getting up early. 00:45:55.055 --> 00:45:59.944 Terry DiMonte: Well, yeah, but even more so if you are radio, if you have 00:45:59.944 --> 00:46:04.475 the radio bug like Jake and I did, and you got into the business, you knew 00:46:04.835 --> 00:46:08.404 if you wanted to be at the top of the game, you had to do the morning show. 00:46:08.464 --> 00:46:09.424 You had to get there. 00:46:09.934 --> 00:46:14.194 So a lot of us started doing other things, but the morning 00:46:14.194 --> 00:46:16.595 show was the pinnacle of the day. 00:46:16.595 --> 00:46:19.174 It paid the most, it had the most attention. 00:46:19.535 --> 00:46:22.265 So you knew you had to figure out how to get the morning chair. 00:46:22.295 --> 00:46:24.424 Jim Conrad: You put your best talent in the morning show. 00:46:24.455 --> 00:46:24.845 Terry DiMonte: Yeah. 00:46:25.145 --> 00:46:25.504 And. 00:46:25.850 --> 00:46:31.220 I know from, and Jake knows this too, from doing all nights and swing and 00:46:31.220 --> 00:46:35.960 afternoons, once you get to the morning show chair, it's a whole different kettle 00:46:35.960 --> 00:46:39.800 of fish and you have to make a lot of adjustments and you have to understand 00:46:39.800 --> 00:46:41.360 the audience that you're talking to. 00:46:41.540 --> 00:46:44.650 You just need a different set of tools in your belt for the morning show. 00:46:44.650 --> 00:46:48.020 Jake Edwards: Because i, I believe that, uh, you were probably an evening guy too. 00:46:48.020 --> 00:46:49.430 I mean, just the way you lived. 00:46:49.430 --> 00:46:50.060 That's what I did. 00:46:50.060 --> 00:46:51.220 I was an evening rock jock. 00:46:51.529 --> 00:46:53.870 I thought for sure that's what I was going to be. 00:46:53.870 --> 00:46:58.250 I had a couple offers to go to New York and Miami and LA. 00:46:58.460 --> 00:47:01.430 At that time, I was just, this am thing was a buzz, and that's 00:47:01.430 --> 00:47:04.730 what I was honing my craft for and that's what I wanted to be. 00:47:04.820 --> 00:47:09.200 And then when I got the morning show gig, I remember when, you know, Gary picked me 00:47:09.200 --> 00:47:10.990 up and we went over to the Vicount Gort. 00:47:11.029 --> 00:47:11.970 That's where I stayed. 00:47:11.990 --> 00:47:12.800 It was a, you know, 00:47:12.800 --> 00:47:13.610 Terry DiMonte: It's still there too. 00:47:13.610 --> 00:47:14.350 Jake Edwards: It's still there. 00:47:14.650 --> 00:47:19.040 And I remember just, he said, you should probably get a nap 00:47:19.250 --> 00:47:21.694 and get ready to do the show. 00:47:21.845 --> 00:47:23.705 And I went, well, you know, I got lot. 00:47:23.705 --> 00:47:25.475 And of course I couldn't sleep the whole night. 00:47:25.475 --> 00:47:28.955 I got up in the morning and, you know, went to work. 00:47:29.495 --> 00:47:30.875 Uh, I did the first show. 00:47:30.875 --> 00:47:32.524 I came home, passed out. 00:47:32.884 --> 00:47:34.475 I woke up that afternoon. 00:47:34.475 --> 00:47:37.924 The bed was soaked, I was soaked, I was sweated so much. 00:47:37.924 --> 00:47:42.184 I had no idea what I was doing, and I thought, this is, this isn't gonna work. 00:47:42.834 --> 00:47:48.335 So I had, it took practice to switch my psyche over to morning, but once I got 00:47:48.335 --> 00:47:53.305 it, and for the next, you know, 40 years or so, you know, basically getting up 00:47:53.305 --> 00:47:58.045 at four o'clock in the morning, uh, you know, having my, I get in, have a bath, 00:47:58.045 --> 00:48:03.535 I, you know, read the papers, get myself ready, uh, do the show, get off the 00:48:03.535 --> 00:48:07.435 show, write the bits, produce the bits, have them ready to go for the next day. 00:48:07.435 --> 00:48:09.385 And anything that changed overnight, you were on it. 00:48:09.915 --> 00:48:13.165 Terry DiMonte: Um, yeah, but the other thing that was fun to watch 00:48:13.165 --> 00:48:16.405 when Jake was doing the morning show was he just didn't sleep. 00:48:16.525 --> 00:48:18.715 He, he just, he was constant. 00:48:19.135 --> 00:48:19.795 No, it's true. 00:48:19.795 --> 00:48:21.535 You a barrel, barrel of energy. 00:48:21.535 --> 00:48:26.695 And when I look back on it, um, I'm, you know, you were lucky to survive. 00:48:26.755 --> 00:48:28.925 I mean, just from your motorcycles alone. 00:48:28.955 --> 00:48:29.715 You were lucky. 00:48:29.855 --> 00:48:31.315 You were lucky to survive. 00:48:31.315 --> 00:48:35.030 I went for one motorcycle ride for you, with you, 00:48:35.030 --> 00:48:36.070 Jake Edwards: You were on my race bike though. 00:48:36.450 --> 00:48:39.109 Terry DiMonte: And, and I, I cried. 00:48:39.290 --> 00:48:46.035 Like I, I was so frightened and I screamed so loud from Charles Wood to Polo Park. 00:48:46.275 --> 00:48:49.265 I just, I kept like, oh, Jake, stop it. 00:48:51.095 --> 00:48:54.905 And, and, and he, you approached your morning show with that. 00:48:54.935 --> 00:48:58.175 There were often times where, 'cause I was doing afternoons. 00:48:58.175 --> 00:48:58.835 Jim Conrad: Full throttle. 00:48:59.055 --> 00:48:59.365 Terry DiMonte: Yeah. 00:48:59.845 --> 00:49:05.315 I was off the air at, at, uh, six or seven and we'd go to a thing and 00:49:05.315 --> 00:49:09.965 I, you know, like Andy Frost used to have legendary parties at his place, 00:49:10.355 --> 00:49:12.275 um, on a street called Dorchester. 00:49:12.275 --> 00:49:14.445 So we would all say we're going over to Dorch. 00:49:14.465 --> 00:49:14.805 Jake Edwards: 825. 00:49:14.805 --> 00:49:15.285 Dorch. 00:49:15.305 --> 00:49:15.395 Terry DiMonte: Yeah. 00:49:15.575 --> 00:49:16.715 For, for a party. 00:49:16.715 --> 00:49:21.515 And I would say to Jake at like 10 to 12 Jakey, you gotta work in the morning. 00:49:21.815 --> 00:49:21.965 Yeah. 00:49:21.965 --> 00:49:22.145 Yeah. 00:49:22.145 --> 00:49:22.685 I'll be good. 00:49:22.745 --> 00:49:23.165 I'll be good. 00:49:23.915 --> 00:49:24.165 I'll be good. 00:49:24.165 --> 00:49:24.515 You'll be fine. 00:49:25.020 --> 00:49:28.634 And, and sure enough jump on the motorcycle. 00:49:28.634 --> 00:49:29.025 Go. 00:49:29.685 --> 00:49:30.674 He'd answer the bell. 00:49:31.035 --> 00:49:31.964 He'd answer the bell. 00:49:31.964 --> 00:49:36.045 So I, I think that at the kind, the style of radio that you did 00:49:36.045 --> 00:49:41.285 and, and the, the energy that was required, uh, he was built for it. 00:49:41.285 --> 00:49:45.565 'Cause you didn't, you, you must admit back then you didn't need a lot of sleep. 00:49:45.565 --> 00:49:46.725 I don't know what it is now. 00:49:46.725 --> 00:49:50.504 But you, you, you'd get three, four hours and you were good to go. 00:49:50.504 --> 00:49:50.900 Jake Edwards: That's right. 00:49:51.250 --> 00:49:55.245 Jim Conrad: Now Jake did, did, did somebody tell you or did you just intuit 00:49:55.245 --> 00:49:58.095 yourself, okay, I'm doing a morning show. 00:49:58.484 --> 00:49:59.444 I've gotta be funny. 00:50:00.330 --> 00:50:01.350 How did that evolve? 00:50:01.890 --> 00:50:03.750 Jake Edwards: Well, that's a good question. 00:50:03.779 --> 00:50:07.410 Um, because I always considered my, considered myself a 00:50:07.410 --> 00:50:08.799 bit of a buffoon anyway. 00:50:09.329 --> 00:50:11.609 So it was always about being funny. 00:50:11.670 --> 00:50:12.589 Jim Conrad: I wouldn't say that. 00:50:12.589 --> 00:50:13.519 Jake Edwards: Like you, you know. 00:50:13.669 --> 00:50:13.990 You know. 00:50:13.990 --> 00:50:19.660 So, but I always thought that I was at any party, anybody that was around, 00:50:20.170 --> 00:50:22.310 um, I would try to make them laugh. 00:50:22.340 --> 00:50:23.390 I did that as a kid. 00:50:23.410 --> 00:50:26.800 I went all the way through my whole life had to be the center of the 00:50:26.800 --> 00:50:28.840 attention for the funny stuff. 00:50:28.840 --> 00:50:29.830 My mom was like that. 00:50:29.830 --> 00:50:34.090 She was, you know, my mom would be in the, in the kitchen, drop an air biscuit. 00:50:34.540 --> 00:50:37.840 Oh, you know where most women will not even say anything. 00:50:38.020 --> 00:50:38.860 My grandmother. 00:50:38.920 --> 00:50:42.880 My grandmother would drop air biscuits at 85 years old going, 00:50:42.885 --> 00:50:44.260 Terry DiMonte: Wait, wait a minute, women fart? 00:50:44.350 --> 00:50:45.550 Jake Edwards: Yeah, they do. 00:50:45.820 --> 00:50:47.950 Yeah, my sister said, never farted in my life. 00:50:47.950 --> 00:50:48.730 Bullshit. 00:50:49.300 --> 00:50:52.365 But my grandmother, oh look here, come on over here Jakey. 00:50:52.685 --> 00:50:54.445 Here's some sweet biscuits. 00:50:54.605 --> 00:50:58.300 And she'd just drop a sweet frap biscuit right in. 00:50:58.300 --> 00:51:00.010 I was like, grandmother for Christ's sakes. 00:51:00.010 --> 00:51:00.670 What's going on? 00:51:00.760 --> 00:51:03.730 And of course, the whole room would've just lose it. 00:51:04.090 --> 00:51:08.110 So at an early age, I think that I was prepped. 00:51:08.290 --> 00:51:09.790 Jim Conrad: So your family prepped you for 00:51:09.790 --> 00:51:11.540 Jake Edwards: Family prepped me to be funny. 00:51:11.540 --> 00:51:15.700 So I basically just let myself go on the air. 00:51:15.700 --> 00:51:21.160 And when I got comfortable enough to, to do that, uh, that's when things changed. 00:51:21.160 --> 00:51:24.540 And I will say, uh, Wayne Yaski, who you know very well. 00:51:24.980 --> 00:51:29.879 Uh, Wayne, uh, basically taught me a lot and he was just a funny, funny guy, 00:51:30.150 --> 00:51:34.529 but he took me to another point where he would laugh at the cruelty of life. 00:51:34.529 --> 00:51:35.370 I was never like that. 00:51:35.370 --> 00:51:38.700 I had didn't have the heart to do the crueler type jokes, you 00:51:38.700 --> 00:51:41.250 know, with, uh, you know, uh, hey. 00:51:41.520 --> 00:51:42.330 Nice haircut. 00:51:42.420 --> 00:51:44.640 Excuse me, please remove that bathing cap. 00:51:45.000 --> 00:51:46.109 No bathing caps in here. 00:51:46.680 --> 00:51:47.700 You know, stuff like that. 00:51:47.700 --> 00:51:52.020 It started to happen and I would use that on the air, which I guess made 00:51:52.020 --> 00:51:53.629 me kind of a kerney act, really. 00:51:54.279 --> 00:51:55.259 Like, you know what I mean? 00:51:55.470 --> 00:51:56.279 Terry DiMonte: It's, you're entertaining. 00:51:56.310 --> 00:52:00.150 Jake Edwards: It was entertaining, I guess, but I always, uh, I, I really cut 00:52:00.210 --> 00:52:03.720 my, my teeth right there in Winnipeg. 00:52:03.750 --> 00:52:04.830 I learned a lot. 00:52:05.430 --> 00:52:08.009 Winnipeggers are the, are the funniest people. 00:52:08.009 --> 00:52:09.900 Look at the music that's come outta Winnipeg. 00:52:09.980 --> 00:52:10.630 You know what I mean? 00:52:10.650 --> 00:52:13.029 The, uh, because it's so fucking cold. 00:52:13.089 --> 00:52:15.150 Winnipeg Symphony, Winnipeg Ballet. 00:52:15.210 --> 00:52:19.529 Stuff that is highbrow big time happens in Winnipeg. 00:52:19.710 --> 00:52:23.819 Jim Conrad: Let's talk about relationships and music because, 00:52:23.850 --> 00:52:25.049 uh, you both love music. 00:52:25.049 --> 00:52:29.490 Music was a big part of your shows, your relationship with artists, which, 00:52:29.520 --> 00:52:35.160 which musical artists were you inspired by and who really impressed you? 00:52:35.715 --> 00:52:37.905 Who did you, who did you become good friends with? 00:52:38.085 --> 00:52:41.775 Jake Edwards: Well, the Canadian artists, um, were always at the radio station. 00:52:41.775 --> 00:52:45.595 I was at Q104, which is a station you're quite familiar with in Halifax. 00:52:45.595 --> 00:52:46.695 Because you're the voice guy there. 00:52:47.025 --> 00:52:49.545 Jim Conrad: Q 104 Halifax. 00:52:49.605 --> 00:52:52.335 Jake Edwards: But, you know, Honeymoon Suite would pop in, uh, 00:52:52.725 --> 00:52:55.725 in Toronto was the Black Crows that came and stayed for a week. 00:52:55.725 --> 00:52:59.535 And Mickey, our engineer, went out and said, he said, can you get us some pot? 00:52:59.655 --> 00:53:01.005 Mike Mickey said, absolutely. 00:53:01.035 --> 00:53:05.895 Came back and laid a pound of pot on the pool table and they 00:53:05.895 --> 00:53:08.325 just, they started rolling joints over there for like seven days. 00:53:08.355 --> 00:53:09.995 We couldn't get rid of the Black Crows. 00:53:15.135 --> 00:53:18.555 Uh, and then, you know, you look at Colin James would come into the radio 00:53:18.555 --> 00:53:22.155 station the same way .Colin James would take that del bro guitar and 00:53:22.155 --> 00:53:27.180 just play and have a Neuman microphone at the bottom and just playing like 00:53:27.360 --> 00:53:29.970 crazy and you'd go, this is so great. 00:53:29.970 --> 00:53:34.110 54 40. The Odds, uh, Alice Cooper would come into 00:53:36.370 --> 00:53:37.110 town. 00:53:37.140 --> 00:53:39.720 First thing he wanted me to do was go play golf. 00:53:39.720 --> 00:53:43.350 And I met him in Winnipeg the very first time and he said, you play golf. 00:53:43.350 --> 00:53:44.040 I said, I do. 00:53:44.340 --> 00:53:45.060 So let's go play. 00:53:45.060 --> 00:53:48.720 So every time he came to Winnipeg, him and I would go out and play golf. 00:53:48.990 --> 00:53:52.075 And then when we got to Toronto, his then manager. 00:53:52.670 --> 00:53:55.670 Said, whatever you do, Jake, do not mention golf, because it 00:53:55.670 --> 00:53:57.800 wasn't part of his image, right? 00:53:57.800 --> 00:53:58.810 It wasn't part of the image. 00:53:58.810 --> 00:54:02.180 So the first thing outta my mouth was, Hey, you still playing golf? 00:54:02.180 --> 00:54:02.630 Let's get out. 00:54:03.110 --> 00:54:07.670 And the, the manager jumped over the board and tried to strangle me on air, Live. 00:54:07.670 --> 00:54:08.450 Terry DiMonte: I forget his name. 00:54:08.450 --> 00:54:10.340 He's a legendary guy too, his manager. 00:54:10.345 --> 00:54:13.130 And, and we, we were really lucky. 00:54:13.250 --> 00:54:17.850 Speaking of luck, we worked in an era where radio mattered to artists. 00:54:18.300 --> 00:54:21.965 And, and they, you know that those days are long gone. 00:54:22.125 --> 00:54:27.620 And if you said to, I remember when the Police came to town and 00:54:27.830 --> 00:54:31.340 you know, there's Stuart Copeland standing at the control room door. 00:54:31.580 --> 00:54:33.680 That never would happen today. 00:54:33.860 --> 00:54:37.550 And I remember one of the first interviews I did was with Eddie Money. 00:54:37.550 --> 00:54:39.069 And Eddie Money was big. 00:54:42.939 --> 00:54:45.650 He was a big star in 78, 79, 80. 00:54:46.030 --> 00:54:49.709 He was big, and they said, Eddie Money's coming in, you're gonna interview him. 00:54:49.709 --> 00:54:51.120 And I was so scared. 00:54:51.209 --> 00:54:52.500 And he was so nice. 00:54:52.500 --> 00:54:59.339 We had such a good time and we, we just shot it out there and said to 00:54:59.339 --> 00:55:02.009 him, Hey, you know, after the gig tonight, we're gonna be at the gig, 00:55:02.009 --> 00:55:04.259 but we're having a bash, uh, tonight. 00:55:04.649 --> 00:55:08.790 And I laughed and I thought to myself, Eddie Money's not coming 00:55:08.790 --> 00:55:10.830 to our stupid party in Winnipeg. 00:55:10.920 --> 00:55:14.700 And at like 1230, the doorbell rang and Eddie Money was 00:55:14.700 --> 00:55:16.230 standing at the fucking door. 00:55:16.590 --> 00:55:17.975 I like those, those 00:55:17.975 --> 00:55:20.070 Jim Conrad: 'Cause it was the only thing going on in Winnipeg that night. 00:55:20.070 --> 00:55:22.830 Terry DiMonte: Well, yeah, and, and, and that era of radio, as you 00:55:22.830 --> 00:55:26.940 remember, Jim ,was footloose and fancy free to quote Rod Stewart. 00:55:26.940 --> 00:55:31.050 You know, it was a, it was a time where the guys didn't look at coming 00:55:31.050 --> 00:55:35.160 into the radio station as, as, uh, you know, part of their gig. 00:55:35.370 --> 00:55:36.420 They looked forward to it. 00:55:36.420 --> 00:55:37.530 They had fun with it. 00:55:37.560 --> 00:55:41.160 It was, it was a, it was a time that doesn't exist anymore. 00:55:41.340 --> 00:55:44.580 Jim Conrad: So, Jake, tell me about you and Jeff Bridges. 00:55:44.670 --> 00:55:46.350 Jeff Bridges: Wait, let me, let me explain something to you. 00:55:46.500 --> 00:55:52.350 Um, I'm the dude, so that's what you call me, you know, uh, that or, uh, 00:55:52.410 --> 00:55:57.210 his dudeness or, uh, duder or, uh, you know, El Dude a Reno, if you're 00:55:57.210 --> 00:55:58.740 not into the whole brevity thing. 00:55:58.800 --> 00:55:59.655 Terry DiMonte: This, this is good story. 00:55:59.655 --> 00:55:59.775 Jake Edwards: Yeah. 00:55:59.775 --> 00:56:01.325 This is, uh, a good story. 00:56:03.185 --> 00:56:05.935 Well, it is, hope no longer. 00:56:05.935 --> 00:56:06.694 Hang on. 00:56:06.725 --> 00:56:09.390 Thanks for the, uh, the, uh, libation of Macallan. 00:56:09.420 --> 00:56:09.990 Jim Conrad: You're welcome. 00:56:09.990 --> 00:56:10.680 Jake Edwards: That's very nice. 00:56:11.149 --> 00:56:16.500 Uh, Jeff came into my life through Frenchy at Joe Fortes, 00:56:16.500 --> 00:56:17.835 Jim Conrad: Who's a maître d' at one of the local restaurants. 00:56:17.835 --> 00:56:20.670 Jake Edwards: So all the rock stars, that's how we met all the actors and 00:56:20.670 --> 00:56:23.350 people, uh, came into Joe Fortes. 00:56:23.370 --> 00:56:28.019 So he would always manage to set a plate and he would tell, uh, Jeff Bridges, 00:56:28.020 --> 00:56:29.520 you gotta meet this guy, Brother Jake. 00:56:29.610 --> 00:56:30.600 We got to meet. 00:56:30.660 --> 00:56:31.410 We hung out. 00:56:31.410 --> 00:56:33.690 And he said, do you think you can get a boat set up? 00:56:33.990 --> 00:56:35.825 Frenchy's telling me to get a boat set up. 00:56:35.825 --> 00:56:40.535 We'll take Jeff out and basically we'll go out on down to Indian arm, right? 00:56:40.625 --> 00:56:41.995 So of course he's the dude. 00:56:42.595 --> 00:56:44.375 So we get the boat all organized. 00:56:44.375 --> 00:56:46.595 We have the White Russians, if you've ever watched the dude, of 00:56:46.595 --> 00:56:48.154 course he loved the white Russians. 00:56:48.245 --> 00:56:51.395 We had a couple of bartenders, we had a skipper, we had a 58 00:56:51.395 --> 00:56:53.765 sedan bridge, Searight brand new. 00:56:53.975 --> 00:56:57.785 And I took the whole morning show team, we all went down and all of a sudden 00:56:57.785 --> 00:57:01.774 Jeff's coming around the corner and he comes onto the boat and it was like 00:57:01.805 --> 00:57:04.055 we, we've known each other for years. 00:57:04.055 --> 00:57:09.245 He was just the most gentle, real, not a movie star kind of guy. 00:57:09.305 --> 00:57:10.444 And away we went. 00:57:10.444 --> 00:57:14.524 So we're all the way down and uh, just sitting around drinking White Russians. 00:57:14.855 --> 00:57:18.274 And he talked about every movie that he's ever done, that we've, that I've 00:57:18.274 --> 00:57:19.955 watched, 'cause I've been such a fan. 00:57:20.045 --> 00:57:22.745 And it was just like the guy was so real. 00:57:23.265 --> 00:57:27.015 Uh, he just, he, he didn't seem like a movie star after a while. 00:57:27.015 --> 00:57:29.634 Terry DiMonte: No, it's, it's interesting when that falls away, eh? 00:57:29.655 --> 00:57:34.865 It just, like, when you first meet them, you're like, oh, and, and it falls away. 00:57:34.865 --> 00:57:37.215 And you, and, and you're talking to like a person. 00:57:37.215 --> 00:57:38.235 It's a cool feeling. 00:57:38.235 --> 00:57:43.215 Jake Edwards: So at the end of it, we get back and he loves to play guitar. 00:57:43.215 --> 00:57:44.205 He's a musician. 00:57:44.565 --> 00:57:48.585 Uh, the Academy Award that he won was basically about a 00:57:48.615 --> 00:57:50.085 down and out country singer. 00:57:50.475 --> 00:57:51.225 And, uh, 00:57:51.255 --> 00:57:51.765 Jim Conrad: Crazy Heart. 00:57:51.765 --> 00:57:52.485 Jake Edwards: Crazy heart. 00:57:52.630 --> 00:57:53.330 Jeff Bridges: I'm Bad Blake. 00:57:53.550 --> 00:57:55.490 My tombstone will have my real name on it. 00:57:55.490 --> 00:57:57.825 Until then, I'm just going to stay bad. 00:57:58.035 --> 00:58:00.705 Jake Edwards: And so he said, uh, you know, so he had the 00:58:00.705 --> 00:58:01.995 tunes going on in the background. 00:58:01.995 --> 00:58:02.775 I said, who is that? 00:58:03.030 --> 00:58:05.085 And he said, oh yeah, we put this together. 00:58:05.085 --> 00:58:07.395 This is gonna be for my new movie, Crazy Heart. 00:58:07.785 --> 00:58:08.955 And I went, oh, what's that about? 00:58:08.955 --> 00:58:09.555 Blah, blah, blah. 00:58:09.555 --> 00:58:12.615 He wins the Academy Award and at the end we get back. 00:58:12.615 --> 00:58:15.015 I said, look, you want to come up to my place? 00:58:15.405 --> 00:58:18.075 And he's, and we just lived right around the corner in Coal Harbor. 00:58:18.405 --> 00:58:19.935 So Lori's out at girl's night. 00:58:20.235 --> 00:58:22.095 He's at my place at midnight. 00:58:22.605 --> 00:58:26.005 And I've got this black hash we're hot knifing, 00:58:26.025 --> 00:58:28.520 Jim Conrad: You're, you've got the blow torch, got the hot 00:58:28.830 --> 00:58:31.405 same blow torch from 92 CITI-FM. 00:58:31.425 --> 00:58:34.545 Jake Edwards: And we're singing our asses off playing and 00:58:34.605 --> 00:58:36.255 all of a sudden that was it. 00:58:36.255 --> 00:58:38.175 Then his stunt double was there. 00:58:38.595 --> 00:58:39.570 Uh, that, that 00:58:39.580 --> 00:58:40.860 Jim Conrad: Always have a stunt double. 00:58:40.860 --> 00:58:41.910 Always have a stunt, 00:58:41.925 --> 00:58:43.215 Jake Edwards: A security guy, stunt double. 00:58:43.575 --> 00:58:46.005 And he basically got him out of there and brought him home. 00:58:46.005 --> 00:58:49.155 He had a driver and then every time he came back to town, 00:58:49.155 --> 00:58:50.175 we would always hang out. 00:58:50.535 --> 00:58:51.465 Jim Conrad: So Terry, how about you? 00:58:51.585 --> 00:58:57.585 Um, was there a, a musician that you were completely impressed by that you loved? 00:58:57.915 --> 00:58:59.445 Terry DiMonte: For me, the big one was Elton John. 00:58:59.445 --> 00:59:03.165 I was such a massive Elton John fan when I was a kid. 00:59:03.525 --> 00:59:05.805 That that was, that was really a big deal. 00:59:12.270 --> 00:59:17.819 And what, what struck me or what's always impressed me is I've met very 00:59:17.819 --> 00:59:22.140 few pricks, uh, you know, and, and, and, uh, you know, they say they never 00:59:22.140 --> 00:59:23.370 meet your heroes, blah, blah, blah. 00:59:23.640 --> 00:59:26.880 Elton John was kind and he was sweet and he was, you know, he is a good 00:59:26.880 --> 00:59:31.350 and decent man and, you know, nice to his fans and, you know, there's 00:59:31.350 --> 00:59:34.799 a, there's a bunch of people over the years that I've met, you know, uh, 00:59:34.830 --> 00:59:37.980 that have left an impression with me. 00:59:38.040 --> 00:59:39.180 Um, uh, 00:59:39.180 --> 00:59:40.390 Jim Conrad: The late great Miles Goodwyn. 00:59:40.444 --> 00:59:40.980 Terry DiMonte: Yeah, yeah. 00:59:40.980 --> 00:59:43.860 Miles Goodwyn was, I, it was really, really sad. 00:59:43.860 --> 00:59:44.520 Jim Conrad: From April Wine. 00:59:44.850 --> 00:59:51.000 Terry DiMonte: I was asked by, uh, the, um, Canadian Walk of Fame to 00:59:51.060 --> 00:59:53.700 participate in the ceremonies last fall. 00:59:54.150 --> 00:59:56.700 And they asked me to bring on April Wine. 01:00:02.490 --> 01:00:05.970 And I, you know, 'cause I was from Montreal and there's a connection 01:00:05.970 --> 01:00:09.870 there and I know Brian Greenway and I've known Miles for years. 01:00:09.930 --> 01:00:15.925 And, um, we were backstage, you know, and I said to Miles, I said, this is 01:00:15.925 --> 01:00:17.755 a really full circle moment for me. 01:00:17.755 --> 01:00:18.805 It's kind of weird. 01:00:19.465 --> 01:00:23.515 I said, you played my high school carnival, you know, and, and now I'm 01:00:23.515 --> 01:00:26.635 here standing backstage talking to you and you're, you know, you're going 01:00:26.635 --> 01:00:30.025 into the, this Canadian Walk of Fame, like towards the end of your career. 01:00:30.025 --> 01:00:32.035 And I can't believe I'm bringing you on. 01:00:32.035 --> 01:00:34.055 It's, he said, well, it's an honor for me, Terry. 01:00:34.075 --> 01:00:37.075 And it's, I'm glad you're doing it 'cause you're a Montrealer and blah. 01:00:37.315 --> 01:00:39.355 We had this really, really nice conversation. 01:00:39.685 --> 01:00:41.785 And one of the things I talked to him about, I said like, 01:00:42.025 --> 01:00:43.435 retired, like, how do you retire? 01:00:43.435 --> 01:00:46.885 He said, well, you know, I still play, I'm still writing, you know, I love, you 01:00:46.885 --> 01:00:49.945 know, I'm gonna golf and I'm gonna do this and I wanna be with my grandkids. 01:00:49.945 --> 01:00:51.565 And, and a month later he was gone. 01:00:51.955 --> 01:00:52.975 Was really, really sad. 01:00:53.065 --> 01:00:57.595 Jake Edwards: Miles Goodwyn, uh, and I had a relationship, uh, at every 01:00:57.595 --> 01:00:59.175 radio station I've ever worked at. 01:00:59.175 --> 01:01:01.735 Because I would go to the concert and I would be the guy 01:01:01.735 --> 01:01:03.855 on stage bringing April Wine on. 01:01:04.035 --> 01:01:04.665 Terry DiMonte: Remember those days? 01:01:04.875 --> 01:01:05.115 Jake Edwards: Oh God. 01:01:05.115 --> 01:01:05.504 God. 01:01:05.774 --> 01:01:11.384 So, you know, if I was in Bathurst or New Glasgow or Sydney or Moncton, he would 01:01:11.384 --> 01:01:13.785 come into town and we would go golfing. 01:01:13.785 --> 01:01:16.815 So I always considered myself a pretty good pal with Miles. 01:01:16.815 --> 01:01:21.884 So, short story, long story short, he ended up here and we 01:01:21.884 --> 01:01:23.595 played this big Whistler event. 01:01:23.595 --> 01:01:27.890 I hadn't seen him in probably 30 years, maybe 25, 30 years. 01:01:28.400 --> 01:01:34.010 And I was the MC and I'm bringing him up on stage and, and, and before I 01:01:34.010 --> 01:01:35.840 brought him up on stage, I was backstage. 01:01:35.840 --> 01:01:37.850 I said, Hey, it's really good to see you again, Miles. 01:01:38.120 --> 01:01:38.660 Awesome. 01:01:38.660 --> 01:01:39.500 He said, who are you? 01:01:42.105 --> 01:01:46.160 I, I said, uh, I'm the guy from New Brunswick. 01:01:46.370 --> 01:01:49.460 Uh, your good pal, good pal, Jake. 01:01:49.850 --> 01:01:54.620 So, and I remember distinctly, and again, listen, Miles, uh, 01:01:54.620 --> 01:01:57.020 you know, and what a guitarist. 01:01:57.020 --> 01:02:01.030 Uh, but I remember every one of them the guys I'm meeting, every one of 01:02:01.030 --> 01:02:04.530 them, had weapons grade halitosis. 01:02:04.760 --> 01:02:08.420 I'm, I'm not just talking about, you know, oh my God, your breath stinks. 01:02:08.690 --> 01:02:11.359 This was weapons grade halitosis. 01:02:11.700 --> 01:02:15.680 So I, so I go up and then, you know, and I, he said, I, I just 01:02:15.680 --> 01:02:17.240 don't remember any, you know? 01:02:17.270 --> 01:02:17.660 No. 01:02:17.660 --> 01:02:18.440 And I'm up stage. 01:02:18.440 --> 01:02:20.130 I said, Miles Goodwyn. 01:02:20.625 --> 01:02:23.805 Used to be a really good friend of mine, back here on stage. 01:02:24.225 --> 01:02:27.555 And then he's playing, uh, you know, uh, playing one of the songs. 01:02:27.555 --> 01:02:30.524 And he looked at me, he went fuckin' Jake. 01:02:31.439 --> 01:02:31.730 Jake. 01:02:32.325 --> 01:02:33.165 And he, it came in. 01:02:33.165 --> 01:02:34.424 So I went, oh, thank God. 01:02:34.424 --> 01:02:35.714 I mean, I, you know, it wasn't something, 01:02:35.714 --> 01:02:36.524 Terry DiMonte: Well, it's 30 years. 01:02:36.524 --> 01:02:37.395 You gotta give him a little bit. 01:02:37.399 --> 01:02:38.160 Jake Edwards: I get it. 01:02:38.160 --> 01:02:39.189 But that happens. 01:02:39.189 --> 01:02:41.335 You know, you talk about, you talk about celebrities. 01:02:41.355 --> 01:02:46.104 You think that they're, you are ingrained in their brain, which is totally untrue. 01:02:46.254 --> 01:02:47.685 I remember being out with Tom Cochrane. 01:02:47.685 --> 01:02:50.755 Jim Conrad: Because you remember the first moment that you met, but 01:02:50.975 --> 01:02:52.785 they, they meet a lot of people. 01:02:52.814 --> 01:02:53.724 Jake Edwards: Well, Tom 01:02:53.724 --> 01:02:56.444 Cochran, myself, Alex Lifeson from Rush, were out 01:02:56.444 --> 01:02:59.595 Jake Edwards: playing golf in Toronto was the greatest day of my life. 01:02:59.595 --> 01:03:02.654 Now Tom Cochran has remained one of my best friends. 01:03:08.664 --> 01:03:10.034 The guy's a match. 01:03:10.074 --> 01:03:11.164 He's fantastic. 01:03:11.164 --> 01:03:14.415 So Alex Lifeson, then we go do this meet and greet and I'm going, I 01:03:14.415 --> 01:03:15.734 can't wait to see him on the air. 01:03:15.734 --> 01:03:17.655 You know, I played golf with him and Tom Cochran. 01:03:19.214 --> 01:03:20.654 This is going to be awesome. 01:03:21.105 --> 01:03:23.445 So I go back, I went, Hey, how you doing, Alex? 01:03:23.445 --> 01:03:24.795 Remember that time we played golf? 01:03:24.795 --> 01:03:26.025 Tom Cochran, you and I? 01:03:26.055 --> 01:03:26.405 No, 01:03:28.515 --> 01:03:29.425 no, nothing. 01:03:30.205 --> 01:03:31.485 Like zip, nothing. 01:03:31.545 --> 01:03:31.815 Hello? 01:03:31.815 --> 01:03:32.065 No, no. 01:03:32.175 --> 01:03:33.915 I made that three wood shot over. 01:03:35.835 --> 01:03:36.525 Check, check. 01:03:36.525 --> 01:03:37.515 Alex, check. 01:03:37.515 --> 01:03:38.235 Is this on? 01:03:38.805 --> 01:03:39.345 Anyway. 01:03:39.565 --> 01:03:42.525 Terry DiMonte: I didn't know about you, but I I really never got over that. 01:03:42.525 --> 01:03:44.805 I I still haven't got over that. 01:03:44.805 --> 01:03:49.875 I, you know, the first time that I realized, um, I was at, uh, the festival 01:03:49.875 --> 01:03:54.735 at Gimli, uh, there was, you remember those, those open air festivals in Gimli. 01:03:54.855 --> 01:04:00.165 And I was standing near a concession stand and I heard, Hey, DiMonte and I 01:04:00.165 --> 01:04:01.805 turned around and it was Tom Cochrane. 01:04:02.035 --> 01:04:04.695 To your point, he's such a mansion, he doesn't forget. 01:04:04.935 --> 01:04:05.625 And I thought. 01:04:05.955 --> 01:04:06.675 Holy shit. 01:04:06.675 --> 01:04:08.115 Tom Cochrane knows who I am. 01:04:08.235 --> 01:04:08.895 It's a, 01:04:08.895 --> 01:04:09.495 Jim Conrad: It gives you something. 01:04:09.585 --> 01:04:11.775 Terry DiMonte: I, I don't give a shit what anybody says. 01:04:11.835 --> 01:04:12.904 It's a cool thing. 01:04:12.904 --> 01:04:14.955 It's like when you go up on a billboard. 01:04:15.135 --> 01:04:16.005 I'm sorry. 01:04:16.185 --> 01:04:17.625 That's fucking cool. 01:04:17.685 --> 01:04:20.625 Jake Edwards: Who's that guy in the Camaro has been there for five 01:04:20.625 --> 01:04:22.395 hours looking at his billboard. 01:04:22.425 --> 01:04:25.365 Terry DiMonte: No, but you know, it's like when you first, when you first see like 01:04:25.365 --> 01:04:30.075 a commercial for your show on television or you, or Tom Cochrane waves at you, you 01:04:30.075 --> 01:04:32.205 go, holy shit, how did this happen to me? 01:04:32.265 --> 01:04:33.075 Okay, that's fun. 01:04:33.075 --> 01:04:34.525 Jim Conrad: Who, now who were the pricks? 01:04:34.975 --> 01:04:36.275 And we can name names. 01:04:36.290 --> 01:04:36.470 Terry DiMonte: Yeah. 01:04:36.475 --> 01:04:36.525 Jake Edwards: Yeah. 01:04:36.525 --> 01:04:38.415 Well, hmm. 01:04:38.505 --> 01:04:39.345 Let me think. 01:04:39.450 --> 01:04:42.705 Terry DiMonte: The, the nasty, the artist that was 01:04:42.735 --> 01:04:45.065 Jake Edwards: Oh, uh, movie stars. 01:04:45.325 --> 01:04:49.425 Uh, I was in Toronto waiting for the star of Crocodile Dundee. 01:04:49.755 --> 01:04:50.535 Jim Conrad: What's his name? 01:04:50.535 --> 01:04:51.035 Jake Edwards: Paul. 01:04:57.075 --> 01:04:58.790 Jim Conrad: Crocodile Dundee, Paul, anybody. 01:04:59.970 --> 01:05:00.504 Jake Edwards: Paul. 01:05:00.504 --> 01:05:01.575 Terry DiMonte: Paul Hogan. 01:05:01.580 --> 01:05:01.950 Jake Edwards: Hogan. 01:05:01.950 --> 01:05:02.400 Thank you. 01:05:02.400 --> 01:05:02.640 Thank you. 01:05:02.640 --> 01:05:02.730 Paul. 01:05:02.730 --> 01:05:04.300 I got the first name. 01:05:04.360 --> 01:05:06.090 So anyway, he's supposed to be in the interview, 01:05:06.090 --> 01:05:06.960 Jim Conrad: So Paul, Paul Hogan. 01:05:06.960 --> 01:05:07.770 You're supposed to meet him. 01:05:07.820 --> 01:05:08.130 Jake Edwards: Yeah. 01:05:08.335 --> 01:05:09.270 And he's big star, right? 01:05:09.270 --> 01:05:10.680 He said, look at, that's a knife. 01:05:10.680 --> 01:05:11.490 This is a knife. 01:05:11.490 --> 01:05:12.720 I mean, he, that was a big movie. 01:05:13.080 --> 01:05:14.490 So I'm pretty excited to meet him. 01:05:14.490 --> 01:05:16.110 I'm going, this guy sounds like a hoot. 01:05:16.230 --> 01:05:18.870 So anyway, uh, eight o'clock rolls by no Paul. 01:05:18.870 --> 01:05:23.444 8:30, 9:00, 9:30, 10 o'clock, no show. 01:05:23.444 --> 01:05:25.125 And I've been promoting him the whole time. 01:05:25.305 --> 01:05:27.915 I walk out, he stumbles in onto the elevator. 01:05:27.915 --> 01:05:31.725 It's 10:30 and he used to have this commercial for a beer company 01:05:32.295 --> 01:05:34.924 and it was the Australian beer. 01:05:36.765 --> 01:05:37.435 Jim Conrad: Fosters. 01:05:37.935 --> 01:05:40.365 Jake Edwards: Fosters, take a look at the size of this biggin. 01:05:40.515 --> 01:05:42.645 And that was, you know, I thought, oh, this is gonna be great. 01:05:42.884 --> 01:05:46.245 So he is walking by and I went, you asshole take a look 01:05:46.245 --> 01:05:47.595 at the size of this biggin. 01:05:48.255 --> 01:05:51.799 And I got in the elevator and I, I just, I, I went down and that was it. 01:05:51.880 --> 01:05:52.080 I just. 01:05:52.275 --> 01:05:54.944 Terry DiMonte: It's funny that I'm, I'm just thinking while you're, you're 01:05:54.944 --> 01:05:58.964 telling that story, you know, you remember like Billy Joel wasn't very nice. 01:05:58.995 --> 01:05:59.865 I got to meet him. 01:05:59.865 --> 01:06:00.555 He wasn't very nice. 01:06:00.884 --> 01:06:04.455 But the circumstances, you, it may have been a night where it 01:06:04.455 --> 01:06:05.535 wasn't going well, whatever. 01:06:05.875 --> 01:06:08.545 But it's funny, you remember all the good ones. 01:06:08.605 --> 01:06:12.355 Like when you asked that question, Jim, I was, I was like, right, you had the 01:06:12.355 --> 01:06:15.835 roledex thinking who were the pricks. 01:06:15.835 --> 01:06:18.865 But you remember, you know, most of the really, really 01:06:18.895 --> 01:06:20.425 most, and most of them are kind. 01:06:20.425 --> 01:06:24.325 And I always say it takes the same amount of time to be an asshole 01:06:24.325 --> 01:06:26.125 as it does to be nice to people. 01:06:26.155 --> 01:06:31.705 Like I, I just don't understand people who don't, you know, who can't just wave 01:06:31.705 --> 01:06:34.375 and be kind and shake a hand and move on. 01:06:34.435 --> 01:06:35.995 I don't want to have dinner with you. 01:06:36.085 --> 01:06:39.805 I just want to tell you I'm a fan and I enjoy your work and move on. 01:06:39.935 --> 01:06:43.045 Jim Conrad: Well, particularly if you're working at radio and playing 01:06:43.045 --> 01:06:45.055 their songs on your radio station. 01:06:45.085 --> 01:06:45.415 Terry DiMonte: Yeah. 01:06:45.415 --> 01:06:45.425 Yeah. 01:06:45.780 --> 01:06:47.110 Jim Conrad: You would think that maybe, 01:06:47.170 --> 01:06:49.210 Jake Edwards: I don't think you want to come off as a dick. 01:06:49.300 --> 01:06:51.490 Terry DiMonte: And one of the, one of the things about, you know, if you're 01:06:51.490 --> 01:06:56.080 an artist, at least back in those days, it was probably pretty smart to have the 01:06:56.080 --> 01:07:00.160 record company people like you because they were outworking your product. 01:07:00.160 --> 01:07:03.340 You know, when I was music director at CITI-FM, the guys used to 01:07:03.340 --> 01:07:04.790 come in with a stack of albums. 01:07:05.250 --> 01:07:07.900 And they would say, eh, you guys aren't gonna like this. 01:07:07.990 --> 01:07:09.010 This is a piece of shit. 01:07:09.130 --> 01:07:10.210 This is a piece of shit. 01:07:10.570 --> 01:07:15.180 This, you guys might like this, these two I really need your help on. 01:07:15.410 --> 01:07:17.620 These two, these are good records. 01:07:17.620 --> 01:07:17.770 They're 01:07:17.860 --> 01:07:19.540 Jake Edwards: Dream Police, cheap trick. 01:07:19.540 --> 01:07:20.390 You gotta get that. 01:07:27.700 --> 01:07:28.000 Terry DiMonte: Please. 01:07:28.000 --> 01:07:28.940 You've gotta play this record. 01:07:29.565 --> 01:07:32.265 You know, so those guys are working on the ground level for 01:07:32.265 --> 01:07:32.990 you when you, you're an artist. 01:07:32.990 --> 01:07:35.355 Jim Conrad: And 'cause they, and because the, the relationship between their 01:07:35.355 --> 01:07:37.785 artist and they had been established. 01:07:37.785 --> 01:07:38.174 Terry DiMonte: Yeah. 01:07:38.174 --> 01:07:38.745 And, and, 01:07:38.750 --> 01:07:39.674 Jim Conrad: And that's how important it is. 01:07:39.674 --> 01:07:39.734 Terry DiMonte: Yeah. 01:07:39.950 --> 01:07:45.755 And, and if you were the CBS record guy and Robin Zander was nice to you, you 01:07:45.755 --> 01:07:49.305 would take Dream Police under your arm and you push the shit out of it for him. 01:07:49.335 --> 01:07:50.055 Jake Edwards: Which we did. 01:07:50.174 --> 01:07:50.535 Terry DiMonte: Yes. 01:07:50.535 --> 01:07:51.254 Which we did. 01:07:51.345 --> 01:07:54.015 Jim Conrad: Jake, tell me, uh, you've told me this before, but there is a 01:07:54.015 --> 01:07:59.115 classic story of, um, a, wasn't it a Julio Iglesias press conference? 01:08:03.015 --> 01:08:09.225 Jake Edwards: Yes, we were in Toronto and Julio Iglesias came in with Rambo's 01:08:09.225 --> 01:08:11.415 girlfriend, uh, what was her name? 01:08:11.415 --> 01:08:12.295 Brit Ekland? 01:08:12.315 --> 01:08:13.325 Jim Conrad: Oh, Brit Ekland. 01:08:13.665 --> 01:08:15.035 Terry DiMonte: Bridget Nielson. 01:08:15.035 --> 01:08:18.390 Jake Edwards: Bridget Nielson. 01:08:18.390 --> 01:08:18.810 Thank you. 01:08:19.060 --> 01:08:21.555 Anyway, we're sitting around and Julio Iglesias is there. 01:08:22.019 --> 01:08:23.759 And we're all around the table. 01:08:24.179 --> 01:08:26.099 And Brit, uh, Bridget Nielson. 01:08:26.099 --> 01:08:26.769 Terry DiMonte: Bridget Nielson. 01:08:27.990 --> 01:08:28.779 Jake Edwards: Thank you. 01:08:29.189 --> 01:08:30.479 Terry DiMonte: Also, you're in your sixties now. 01:08:30.479 --> 01:08:30.750 Jake Edwards: Yeah. 01:08:30.809 --> 01:08:34.319 And, and all of a sudden her top comes up just at the dinner table. 01:08:34.319 --> 01:08:35.969 I'm going, what the hell's going on here? 01:08:36.419 --> 01:08:40.559 So then Julio Iglesias comes in and he's basically sitting down 01:08:40.559 --> 01:08:44.639 with his 24-year-old girlfriend and he said, I have to go now. 01:08:44.939 --> 01:08:45.840 I must go make love. 01:08:48.990 --> 01:08:49.349 We're like, 01:08:49.979 --> 01:08:50.654 Jim Conrad: And got up and left. 01:08:50.660 --> 01:08:51.960 Jake Edwards: And got up and left and that, 01:08:54.029 --> 01:08:54.870 Jim Conrad: That's an exit line. 01:08:54.930 --> 01:08:55.889 Jake Edwards: I must go make love. 01:08:56.080 --> 01:08:58.290 Terry DiMonte: It's like a scene from a movie. 01:08:58.859 --> 01:08:59.099 Jake Edwards: Oh my God. 01:08:59.099 --> 01:09:02.079 Jim Conrad: That's exit line one of my final questions. 01:09:02.099 --> 01:09:04.260 What's the hardest you've ever worked? 01:09:04.950 --> 01:09:07.260 Terry DiMonte: For me without a doubt on construction. 01:09:07.750 --> 01:09:08.410 I had a, 01:09:08.410 --> 01:09:09.465 Jim Conrad: So it wasn't a radio. 01:09:09.525 --> 01:09:13.875 Terry DiMonte: One summer, I was working in Toronto for a construction 01:09:13.875 --> 01:09:17.535 company, laying patios, you know, from seven in the morning until five 01:09:17.535 --> 01:09:19.275 at night with a half hour for lunch. 01:09:19.965 --> 01:09:24.195 And I remember thinking to myself, wow, this is good money and I 01:09:24.195 --> 01:09:26.055 never want to do this again. 01:09:26.385 --> 01:09:30.255 I have such a deep and abiding respect for people who work with their hands 01:09:30.345 --> 01:09:35.325 and drive buses and work outside in the bad weather and all of that. 01:09:35.715 --> 01:09:41.205 We were the luckiest motherfuckers on the planet to do what we did. 01:09:41.605 --> 01:09:43.995 And listen, I worked hard. 01:09:44.025 --> 01:09:46.545 I didn't get where I was, I hustled. 01:09:46.905 --> 01:09:49.395 I went, you know, as a friend of mine said you would go to 01:09:49.395 --> 01:09:50.715 the opening of an envelope. 01:09:50.715 --> 01:09:53.085 I was out all the time. 01:09:53.355 --> 01:09:56.175 I never said no, I never turned anything down. 01:09:56.430 --> 01:09:58.830 I, you know, I visited schools. 01:09:58.830 --> 01:10:03.990 I went like, I, like, I worked hard in radio to get where I was, but not, like, 01:10:03.990 --> 01:10:05.790 some people work for a living every day. 01:10:05.970 --> 01:10:06.390 Jim Conrad: And Jake? 01:10:06.630 --> 01:10:09.450 Jake Edwards: Exactly what he said, uh, never worked a day 01:10:09.450 --> 01:10:11.430 in my life of being on the air. 01:10:11.490 --> 01:10:13.200 Uh, did work really hard. 01:10:13.560 --> 01:10:14.850 Tremendous hours. 01:10:15.120 --> 01:10:19.920 Sacrificed family, sacrificed a lot of friends by doing that. 01:10:20.250 --> 01:10:24.570 Doing Monday night football in the east in Halifax when the game comes on at 01:10:24.570 --> 01:10:30.090 nine o'clock and oh my God, there's overtime at 1:30 in the morning and 01:10:30.090 --> 01:10:31.770 you'd have to drive in and do the show. 01:10:31.830 --> 01:10:34.530 I mean, that, that was hard work, but every time you 01:10:34.530 --> 01:10:35.940 went out, you met a listener. 01:10:36.030 --> 01:10:39.510 Every time you went out, you met, you know, kissing babies and making friends. 01:10:39.600 --> 01:10:42.720 That kind of thing always helped, and it was something that I 01:10:42.720 --> 01:10:44.100 loved to do socially anyway. 01:10:44.400 --> 01:10:47.640 Terry DiMonte: Well, and I, I don't know about you, but it, this, this went 01:10:47.640 --> 01:10:54.134 on until the last day before I was, I was pushed outta CHUM, every single day 01:10:54.165 --> 01:10:58.665 when I pushed that control room door open, whether I was hungover or tired or 01:10:58.665 --> 01:11:03.255 exhausted or crabby or mad, when I pushed that control room door open and looked at 01:11:03.255 --> 01:11:07.735 that chair in that microphone, I thought to myself home, you, you lucky fuck. 01:11:07.735 --> 01:11:08.065 I'm home. 01:11:08.065 --> 01:11:09.375 Sit down, sit down. 01:11:09.375 --> 01:11:11.025 I'm home, sit down and have a good time. 01:11:11.745 --> 01:11:16.095 Before we go, Jim, and I just wanna say this, Jake and I came from an era 01:11:16.095 --> 01:11:17.895 of radio that is never coming back. 01:11:18.165 --> 01:11:24.435 There is never going to be the kind of broadcast programming and radio, 01:11:24.915 --> 01:11:27.135 um, that we were involved in, right? 01:11:27.135 --> 01:11:31.755 Not, not because we were great anything, but we worked in an era of radio 01:11:31.755 --> 01:11:36.105 that was special and, and doesn't exist anymore and isn't coming back. 01:11:36.375 --> 01:11:43.155 So kudos to you, chapeau, as they say in Quebec for, um, trying to, trying 01:11:43.155 --> 01:11:45.315 to gather some of these stories, 01:11:45.315 --> 01:11:45.345 Jim Conrad: Archive these stories. 01:11:45.345 --> 01:11:49.665 Terry DiMonte: Archive the stories, and let people know there was a time when 01:11:49.665 --> 01:11:55.905 radio was fun, wild entertaining, and wasn't the text question of the day. 01:11:55.995 --> 01:12:01.155 That there were, there were wildly talented people before us and a few 01:12:01.155 --> 01:12:05.415 after us, but you go all the way back to the days of Raccoon Carney and Doc 01:12:05.415 --> 01:12:10.845 Harris and, and up through the end of our careers, that, that's never coming back. 01:12:11.850 --> 01:12:15.120 Jim Conrad: Well guys, thank you so much for being part of this. 01:12:15.120 --> 01:12:16.860 Jake Edwards: Pleasure, pleasure being here. 01:12:16.860 --> 01:12:19.260 Jim Conrad: For being guests and some great stories. 01:12:19.410 --> 01:12:23.310 And we're all about storytelling and like I said, I'm detaching from outcome. 01:12:23.430 --> 01:12:25.020 Whoever listens, listens. 01:12:25.260 --> 01:12:26.780 Terry DiMonte: It's the joy of the podcast. 01:12:26.780 --> 01:12:27.360 Nicely done. 01:12:27.580 --> 01:12:29.790 Jim Conrad: Thank you. 01:12:29.790 --> 01:12:32.210 Hey, 01:12:36.730 --> 01:12:42.950 now that was episode number four of Conovision, my very, very special, 01:12:42.950 --> 01:12:48.469 special thank you to Brother Jake Edwards and Terry DiMonte for their 01:12:48.679 --> 01:12:55.070 amazing stories of radio back in the day, as well as the legendary Ken 01:12:55.070 --> 01:12:57.980 Nordine and one of his colors, beige. 01:12:58.370 --> 01:13:03.500 More colors to come on upcoming episodes and more stories. 01:13:04.009 --> 01:13:08.059 'Cause remember, we are all stories to be told. 01:13:08.599 --> 01:13:09.650 I'm Jim Conrad. 01:13:10.459 --> 01:13:11.179 Thanks for listening.