(upbeat music)
I was either arresting
people or marrying people.
Here's a tangent to your
tangent of the tangent.
School sponsored make out sessions.
This is what it sounds like to me.
I was always too busy working it.
You get five minutes in the closet.
Yeah, no, no, no, no, no.
Yeah.
It's true colors haven't
shown in quite some time.
But I feel one coming in the air tonight.
It's my prerogative,
I can do what I want.
More or less just pointing out
that we've been lazy for a long time.
Just text yourself and
check, check, and then Chigaty,
check yourself.
I'll be up, Chigaty, check myself.
Was that it may have been the night of
the homecoming dance,
but nobody goes to the dance.
Yeah, 12 and a half, 13, I
mean, that's just way too long.
(humming)
Same.
(laughing)
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Ah, did we start off the last one?
(laughing)
I think we may have.
Well, because we were in
Mexico, so we were already like,
ah.
Maybe it was one before
that we were just like,
because that was more of
like a really like, oh my gosh,
we're slowing down for just a moment.
And how different is this
moment from the last time
we sat down to do this?
I know, I know.
I'm really missing the, you
know, Latin music behind us.
(laughing) Yeah.
And the sound of the waves and.
Yeah, yeah.
Now you're getting into
the stuff I'm more missing.
I know, sorry.
The cabana, all the good stuff, yeah.
Oh my gosh.
But doing nothing.
How wonderful is doing nothing?
It is, it was really great.
I don't, it makes me feel
a little bit bad to say,
oh, it felt so good to do nothing.
Like does that, is that a sign that
you're a lazy person
that you like to do nothing?
I don't think so.
I mean, you and I have
talked about it, right?
Like if,
we couldn't just do nothing every day.
No, it wouldn't be fun.
You know, I think maybe a
lot of people think they could,
you know, and I think I could
do nothing for quite a while.
(laughing) I don't know how
that's gonna be, you know,
but honestly eight, nine days into it,
I'm sure I'd be like, well,
it's probably time to do something.
Yeah.
You know, that's why
this one was just perfect.
I mean, two or three days
of doing nothing left you
with just enough of like,
well, that was a good reset.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm missing the kids.
Yeah.
Because we were really missing the kids,
the first time we've been
away from them since our tenure,
which was eight years ago.
Right, right.
And this time I think
they missed us a little bit.
I don't know.
We keep trying to
convince ourselves they did.
I think they did a little bit too,
but I definitely missed them.
I mean, you know,
that's why I was saying,
I guess that was part of it too, right?
Like, could I relax?
I probably could have relaxed even more
if the whole family was there.
I agree, I agree.
And we were all relaxing together and--
But it wouldn't have
been that way because--
But it wouldn't have been that way.
My boy's like, do this, let's do that.
And let's go look at this and that.
Yeah, we literally, yeah,
that was fantastic to sit
and literally do nothing.
So maybe that was the
perfect just three night getaway
of doing nothing.
I, it was for us.
I mean, it certainly was for me.
It was so nice.
I probably could have
done it one more day.
I know.
I remember when we went to Atlantis
in the Bahamas a few years back
and we had gone to Disney
World like two years beforehand.
Yep, yep.
And we were there and what's the big one?
The Star Wars or--
Star Wars, where's Star Wars at though?
It's at--
Animal Kingdom.
Hollywood Studios.
So the Hollywood Studios one.
Yeah.
So the Star Wars one wasn't done yet.
And we're big Star Wars fans.
We're not Star Wars nerds by any means,
but we like Star Wars.
Yeah, we do.
And it wasn't done, so
we're like, gosh dang,
we gotta go back at some point in time
because all this stuff.
The Millennium Falcon was
there, so you'd kind of see that.
Oh no, it was just a picture.
It was just a picture.
We took a picture in
front of the picture.
You could see the
mountains and everything.
They were almost done.
It opened up like three
months after we were there.
So we had just missed it.
Maybe even a month.
So we said, we're gonna go back.
So we ended up going back
there two years after that
and we went for two days?
Yeah, two or three.
Two or three days.
It was two days.
Because we did one at Animal Kingdom
so that we could do the one ride again.
Avatar ride.
Avatar ride, which I still
think is my favorite ride.
Oh my gosh, that ride is so cool.
I love that ride.
So cool.
But we should clarify the VR Avatar ride.
Not the one where you're
floating on the laser beam.
Yeah, the floaty lazy
river one is terrible.
No offense, Disney.
Anyways, but yeah, the
one where you're like,
all five senses,
you're sitting in the thing,
you're almost riding a motorcycle,
you're riding an avid,
you're riding one of
the dragons, supposedly.
It actually gives you that drop.
The first time, the
second time not as much
because I expected it, but
the first time I was like,
I got the feeling in my
stomach, like I'm falling.
Yeah.
It's cool.
And like the seat even moves,
like the breathing of the,
what are those things called?
Oh, the banshees.
The banshees.
Yeah.
Oh my gosh, that one is so cool.
Yeah, so we did that one
because it was such a great,
cool, you know, Animal Kingdom's cool.
And then we went to Star Wars.
So we had one day in Star Wars
and we tried to hit everything there.
Probably should have
done it over two days.
Probably.
I think we got a little tired, maybe.
But that was perfect too,
because it was kind of
like this last little vacation
that we had, this little getaway,
because it was like, all
right, two days hard, guys,
at Disney and everybody
that goes to Disney, you know,
it's pretty hard.
If you know, you know.
But that's what we always,
I feel like we do that well with our,
here's what we do with our vacations.
I know this is a
tangent of a tangent now,
but we always, and the
first time we went to Disney
and we were with the
kids, we would park one day.
We do a park, hard, right?
You're there at park
opening and you close it down.
Fireworks, you know,
and then you head home.
And then you head home.
But the next day we
went to the pool all day.
Yeah, we just had a pool day.
Yeah, which is the way to do it.
Relax yourself, get
yourself charged up for the next.
Yep.
Right, the next park day.
That was exactly right.
And you planned that.
You're like, I think
we're gonna like it this way,
because you did all the,
well, you do all the
planning for all the trips.
I wasn't looking for
the pad on the back there.
Thank you.
More or less just
pointing out that we've been lazy
for a long time.
No, no, no, no.
We're gonna get the
thing that I've been lazy
while you plan our trips.
No, no, no.
And you do it so well,
because it really was
like the best balance,
but we've replicated
that outside of our trip
to Europe this summer,
which there really wasn't any,
there wasn't really
any downtime on that one.
But now I'm gonna go
back to the other tangent,
the first tangent,
because that's what we did
two hardcore days at Disney,
just to make sure we saw Star Wars,
since we just missed it.
Then we went over to
the Bahamas in Atlantis
and we stayed there
for a week and relaxed.
And that was perfect.
I mean, I think we need to
find more places like that,
because the kids loved it.
Loved it.
There was stuff for them to do.
We had already figured
out the whole cabana thing
by that point in time.
So we had our own home base.
Yup.
And that was fantastic.
So they could go, mom
and dad were at the cabana.
Yup, yeah.
Well, and there's water slides there.
Right, there's so much to do.
There's great beaches.
I mean, gosh, how long
did you follow a sea turtle
while you were just
snorkeling right off one of the beaches
with the kids?
I mean, like--
So cool.
It was, there was so much to do there,
but yet you could either
do a whole bunch of stuff
or do nothing.
And you would be
perfectly happy either way.
Yeah, but it was great.
Now that the kids are a
little bit older though too,
it's even easier,
because they don't necessarily want us.
I think they want us to,
but then it's like they're okay
if we're not doing it
every time with them
to go like down the water slide or
whatever it might be.
You know, so that was fantastic.
But all that to say,
like we've kind of
figured out this whole like,
just rest, go hard.
We did that in Costa
Rica and most places,
and you're right, when we
went to Italy and Greece,
there was none of that really.
No.
That was not a vacation,
but that was an incredible getaway.
It was incredible.
So we were not gonna go into that again.
But here's what I was gonna say.
Yeah.
And I've talked 90% of the time,
so I'll stop so you can talk.
But does that seem like
it was a million years ago
that we just had like a
very relaxing two days?
Yeah.
I mean, I need to go back.
I know.
I feel like we,
so we were raced into the
finish line to even get there.
And then we just,
I don't know, skydived
into then regular life
when we got back.
Yeah, with no parachute.
We just jumped.
We just head first straight down into it.
Yeah, I mean, this is the
first time that we've sat down.
I was gonna say, we've
sat together since then.
Yeah.
Yeah, we had, your parents were in town.
Yep.
And we had the actual homecoming
other festivities this weekend.
Actual, it was the actual dance.
If you will.
It was the date of the actual dance,
is how I should phrase this.
The homecoming dance, that's right.
Homecoming dance.
And we had everyone to our house
because the pictures were
being taken near our house.
I mean, it's, everybody
knows it's a big thing.
You do your pictures, you, anyway.
But I think what took us by surprise,
given this is our first time through it,
was that it may have been the night of
the homecoming dance,
but nobody goes to the dance.
I say this because
that's what we were told.
Like, I don't get that.
Quote unquote from
sophomores, nobody goes to the dance.
Nobody goes to the dance.
Well, then apparently freshmen do.
Yeah, well, and now I'm hearing
it's actually freshmen and seniors.
Oh.
So.
Then I heard someone say too, like,
oh no, people will go
over to take for 12 minutes.
Not 13, but like 12 minutes.
Yeah, well, 12 and a half, 13.
I mean, that's just way too long.
12 minutes max.
So I'm like, let me just
get this straight then.
We're going out buying a brand new suit.
She's going out and
buying a brand new dress.
You're doing all these stuff.
You're going to dinner.
Yeah, nails done.
Nails.
You're done.
Yeah, all the homecoming stuff,
but we're not actually doing homecoming.
Yeah.
So why are we going to homecoming?
Why are we buying all this stuff?
Right.
Makes no sense to me.
I mean, just like, I don't know.
You're going out to
eat and then coming over
to our house for a party.
That's exactly right.
That's all you're doing.
Why does everybody need
to spend $400 on that?
I don't understand this.
And so I reached out to the other mom
and I was like, so I
hear these are our plans.
The plan that I don't
hear about is the dance
because it's like we wanted to make sure
that all parents were okay with the fact
that there was no going to the dance.
Turns out all parents
were okay with that,
but that's not just for our high school.
That was, we then go to a
soccer game the next day
and other parents were talking about it
and how nobody goes to the dance.
I don't know if that's
a Texas thing too or not
because you're exactly right.
Just to back up that just slightly,
absolutely you and I are
on the same page there too
because I was like, can you
just text our oldest son's mom,
our oldest son's girlfriend's mom?
Don't text yourself the way I said it.
Just text yourself and
check, check, and then
chickadee check yourself.
I'll be chickadee check myself.
Yeah, you can chickadee check.
You can chickadee check yourself?
Yeah, microphone check one.
Microphone check two.
Check two, check check.
People that know know, okay,
but we're gonna go back to the story.
Because it's our son and
you want him to be chivalrous.
Yes.
Right?
Yes.
Chivalrous?
Chivalrous.
Yeah, I thought it, I could see it.
Chivalrous, you want him
to be chivalrous, right?
And be a gentleman.
And I didn't want it
happening at their house
that they're like, well,
your boyfriend doesn't want
to go to the dance.
Why is he not taking you to the dance?
He should take you to the dance.
Right.
You know, happening on both sides.
We were definitely on
the same page saying that.
But then, and all the parents
were like, what is going on?
Yes, we all thought this was strange.
Because for pictures,
everybody came to our house.
Because there was a
little pond in the neighborhood
near us that we went down
to, it was really pretty.
It was fun for the kids,
great pictures and stuff.
But every one of them was,
we all were all kind of still
touching base with each other.
Are you sure?
This is weird, right?
No dance?
I know, we all thought this was weird.
Yeah, yeah.
And then, lo and
behold, the next day we go
to a soccer game and
all over the Metroplex,
they're like, yeah,
my kid's at homecoming.
We're like, oh, did they go to the dance?
No, no one goes to the dance.
I mean, we're here.
No one goes to the dance.
For you one.
Yeah, is that a Texas thing?
Maybe it's a Texas thing, I have no idea.
I don't know, mums and no dance?
Mums and no dance.
I don't know, I don't know.
Because this really did make me feel
a little old fashioned.
It did. At least.
It did.
Right?
It did.
Back in my day, we went
to the homecoming dance
and danced.
Well, yeah, and I
would think that in Texas,
they would want to go,
like that of all places
seems like the place where
you'd want to have a dance.
I don't know, because I
think about line dancing.
There's a lot of that
here, you know, like.
Mm, mm.
I don't know, I don't know.
Maybe it's because
they don't have, I mean,
I think of all the
awesome songs that we danced to
in the 80s and early
90s when we were going
to school dances.
So many, that was like the era,
and here's a good tangent for you.
Okay.
Everybody remembers
watching on, you know,
it was probably later at
night or maybe during the day
or whatnot, but you
remember when they would like
advertise on television
sets of CDs that were,
the one I'm talking
about is like the love one.
It's Reflections of Love.
And Body Language.
Oh yeah, oh Body Talk.
Body Talk.
Oh, I remember Body Talk.
So because there were so many great,
I should go get those CD
backs and just read them off.
I've been listening to it lately.
I've been in the mood,
it's on one of my playlists.
It's my love song playlist.
I have been hearing it
while you've been in the shower.
Oh my goodness, yeah,
there's been a lot of it lately.
And some of those are a little bit older,
but like Die in Your
Arms Tonight, I mean,
there's just so many.
You go through Phil
Collins, Genesis, Whitney Houston.
I mean, you just, classics, classic songs
from that time period,
which meant we had lots
of great love songs
because ultimately, right?
I mean, like you may not remember
because you went to the
dance with your friends though,
but I mean, did you
guys go out and dance?
So my experience would
have been totally different
because the only
dances I went to were ones
that I literally had to
work at because when I was one
of the people on the
committee hosting it,
I had to work it.
So did you get--
Now that's not like a Ru Paul work it.
You weren't working.
I wasn't at work, no, I actually was.
And I'll give you a little,
this is now a tangent to another tangent.
So we had what was
called the Sadie Hawkins dance
and that's where it's
called different things all over,
but it's where the girls ask the guys.
And it's, I have no idea
the Genesis of Sadie Hawkins,
who this girl was or
whatever, but it's more of like a
country.
It was called Morp, where I'm from.
Yes, yes.
It's opposite prom.
Yes, I've heard that,
yes, okay, thank you.
But at this dance, there
was, you put together this jail.
And so if the couple isn't holding hands,
then you have to put
the guy goes into jail.
And to get him out, you
have to either give him a kiss
or you have to pay.
So you were either working to find people
who weren't paired up on the dance floor,
it was different, you
didn't have to hold hands
on the dance floor, but if you were
walking around the dance,
you had to hold hands.
Was it normal to encourage PDA,
think about the Grease movie,
here's a tangent to your
tangent of the tangent.
But Grease movie,
there was kissing booths.
Yeah.
You know, you weren't how
herpes of the mouth spreads.
That's how it happened.
Anyways, back to yours.
Well, I think usually it was more like,
you give him a kiss on
the cheek, was more or less.
But then we also had a chapel that you
could get married in.
And so I was either
arresting people or marrying people.
I was either a policeman
or a priest, I was both.
Wow, there's a lot to unpack at your,
this backwards dance
of yours, Sadie Hawkins.
It was a lot of fun, and that's why
people like to do it.
Cause there were all these
just kind of like fun things
to do at the dance.
And so I had to...
School sponsored make out sessions,
is what it sounds like to me.
I guess.
Yeah.
I don't know, I never had a date.
So I was always too busy working it.
Yeah, did you guys
play spin the bottle tool?
Or maybe it was like,
hey, you get five minutes
in the closet.
Yeah, no, no, no, no, no.
For the record, there
were parent chaperones.
Yeah.
And so, if you couldn't do
it in front of your parents,
you shouldn't be doing it.
I just want to go out there and say that.
There was a parent or a teacher chaperone
right at the gate of the jail.
So like, it was like a very
G rated peck on the cheek.
So I was just thinking,
I was just trying to think back to my
homecomings and proms.
And it was like, I don't,
we went to all the dances for sure.
But I don't remember
the dances being like,
clearly they weren't like
Grease dances or like any,
there's no high school
musical happening in real life.
At least where I grew up, right?
I mean, the dance floor was
not full most of the time.
Maybe, you know, the really outgoing kids
were doing the worm or something goofy.
Maybe, yeah.
You know?
But the only time
people ever got out there
was to slow dance, right?
And then so
everybody's just doing the rock,
the two step rock or
whatever you call it, you know?
So my whole point to
that whole thing was,
they don't have any love songs these days
that I'm aware of,
other than like maybe
some Taylor Swift songs.
Yeah.
So I mean, like there's no, you know,
that's the only time
people got onto the dance floors
when I was there.
Was with the love songs.
Was with the love song.
And they don't have
those kind of, you know,
Phil Collins hasn't made a
new song in a while, you know?
Yeah.
His true colors haven't shown
in quite some time.
Oh, that was well done.
I was actually trying to
find one to fit in there.
I'm actually kind of excited that I
worked that in there.
That was good, that was good.
Yeah, but I feel one
coming in the air tonight,
but that's okay.
I mean, we could go on with Phil Collins.
Apparently you could, I can't apparently.
I can see his CD cover in
my head of his greatest hits
and all that, like Sousa Studio and all
those kind of things.
But I was trying to find
the light in the air tonight.
Yeah, yeah, you got it.
Anyways, so that's
where I was going with that
is maybe there's just,
their music today is not,
you know, like Golden's huge right now.
Like they're all,
everything's like a party song.
It is, yeah, yeah.
Although we did have quite
a few non-love songs, like.
Oh, they did, they played those,
but nobody danced to those.
Yeah.
You know, nobody's doing the Roger Rabbit
or, you know, the Running Man, you know.
Unless you're in like a
Bobby Brown video or something
like that, maybe you are.
Both played.
Both played, was Bobby Brown on any
of those body talk CDs?
I don't know, you know,
every little step he took.
I don't know, we should do a
whole thing of that, you know.
I mean, it's my
prerogative, I can do what I want.
Oh my gosh, that was pretty funny.
That's really bad, so anyway.
So I guess we're getting,
we're kind of tying the,
you know, coming around
with tying it up with Hoko.
But it was really cute
to see them and, you know,
even I, it was so funny
because I made a little
Instagram reel of our oldest.
And I literally, it was so funny because
I had just posted it.
In like, within 10 seconds you called me.
And you called, why?
And I called because it made me,
like I just started
crying when I watched it.
I just, I think at the
time, so it was so busy, right?
We had, and I think we
were so focused on all,
or at least I was so
focused on the things that needed
to be done that day.
And I enjoyed the
moment while we were there,
taking pictures, it was
gorgeous and all of that.
But what I didn't really let sink in was
the passage of time.
And seeing the reel and
seeing pictures from like a,
out of that moment perspective.
And I saw a young man.
Yeah, big time.
And that was all I saw.
There was not the little boy anymore
in any of those pictures.
And even still it's
hitting me really hard.
It hit me like a ton of bricks.
And it was like, I
never let it sink in that,
I mean, this is, this is
his, this isn't his childhood
anymore, this is him growing up.
Oh yeah, he's a, yeah,
sophomore, you're right.
I mean, a sophomore, I told all our kids,
sixth grade was kind of
the first time I realized,
kind of a person now.
I remember, it was kind of mostly me,
it's most infantile point, right?
But I was mostly me in sixth grade.
I kind of remember
that, coming to that one,
and I grew and all that
stuff since then, similar.
I don't know what your
age group was for that,
but for sure by sophomore
year, I mean, they're there.
I mean, he's doing his life.
Yeah.
You know, and you scared me
when you called me though,
because I had just
put it up and I'm like,
oh shoot, did I just
post something wrong?
Did I put a picture on
there I shouldn't have,
or did I mess up?
But after you said that, I rewatched it
in the exact same
thing, like tears to my eyes,
because when I put
them up, it's almost like,
everybody else has already done it,
I'm two days behind, I
just got to get this thing up.
And of course, I chose an old song,
Forever Young by Rod Stewart,
which all those old songs, they tear,
they just tug at my heart,
strings and stuff like that,
and you watch it and
listen to it and take it all in,
yeah, it was just like,
he's growing into a young man.
And what I love about it is
that there's pictures in there
that he's showing his,
he's got real smiles in there,
he's got real laughs with his friends.
Yep.
It wasn't because dad was being goofy,
it wasn't because mom told a funny joke
or anything like that,
it was because he was
enjoying the time with his friends.
And we were just--
Bystanders.
Bystanders in it.
Which takes me to that
reel that I saw last night.
Oh gosh.
That was said, you, we
raise, what did it say,
do you remember?
We raise the people
that we can't live without,
to live without us.
That's right, we raise the
people that we can't live
without, so that they
can live without us.
Yeah, and I was just like,
yeah, this is where we're at.
And it was crazy, I didn't
even, I mean, it was fun,
and it was exciting on
Saturday when all this was happening,
but that emotion didn't hit
me until I took a step back.
And I saw it so plainly that here we are,
just taking pictures of his life.
Like we were just the bystanders there.
And it was okay, it's not like we're,
you're mad, but it's
a natural transition,
but it just hit me like a ton of bricks.
Did I talk about that
last week on the show,
that I had that conversation with him?
I know I was telling
someone else about it,
but we were just at
that point where it's like,
I get it, you're going into a young man,
and we've always said this,
we've heard this from other people too,
that at some point,
I'm still at the point
where I can't imagine not
having our kids in our house.
I know I've said that on here before.
But at some point, the way
life works is they gotta go.
They do.
You know, and I hope that this is wrong,
and that I never want my kids to go,
because there's quote too
many adults in the house.
Yeah, yeah.
But at some point that may
or may not happen inevitably,
and that's the way nature works too,
is that you gotta break away.
They have to do that.
They're gonna go either way,
but I hope it's in a way
that it's like tears and hugs,
and I'm proud of you, and go
get them, spread your wings,
you know what I mean,
versus you gotta go.
Yeah.
You know what I mean,
like, whatever you do,
you gotta get out of my house though,
because you know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah.
And I think, you know, I don't think
that's always reflective of the way you
raise someone either,
because that's just, at some point
they're their own person.
They can make their
own choices, good or bad.
Yeah, yeah.
Normally they come around, I think, but.
That's what I hear.
They're raised right.
I hear that they do come around.
Someone that I was talking to one time,
who has three kids who have all,
like, oldest is in college, right,
and the other two are
working, career-wise.
And they called it,
especially that last year,
they call it, like, soiling the nest.
I was like.
And that paints a picture.
Wow, okay, that paints a picture,
but they're like, it really is like that,
it gets kinda harder as
it gets closer to the time,
and I think there's probably a lot of,
I'm sure every psychiatrist or
psychologist right now
is like, oh yeah, there's
a total reason for that,
but they said that those
last few months get really hard.
And that's kinda the final straw,
usually of like, yep,
you're gonna go to college,
and can't wait to see
your Christmas break.
I bet they do, and that's
where I was going with that,
is I had a conversation with our oldest,
three, four weeks ago,
probably, three weeks ago, maybe,
where he didn't think I handled the
situation very well.
Nothing negative, and I
could tell he was trying
to kinda be adult about
giving me some feedback,
which was great, and
I was okay with that,
but it was just kinda bordering on,
because I know he was
trying to figure it out,
but it was bordering on
just being a little bit
disrespectful, and really,
I think there was emotion
behind it from something
else that was pushing it,
and so it just kinda made
that come out a little bit less,
you know, maybe finely
tuned or as respectful
as he would have liked it,
because we've talked
about it since, obviously,
but it opened the
door to me saying to him,
like, buddy, this is hard for me to say,
and I know I get it, but
it's okay, I understand,
I'm gonna go from being
Superman in your life,
trying to be, you know,
to I'm gonna be subbed out
onto the sideline, you
know, and I get that,
and I'm okay with that,
because that's what's supposed to happen.
It's supposed to.
And you're gonna put your friends
into that number one
spot, they're gonna be
what you turn to and this and that,
but I just ask of you to
not ignore me on the sideline,
you know what I mean,
don't shut me out out there,
you know, I want to be that dad that,
you know, everybody wants to
be that parent that's like,
oh, you don't wanna be the parent that
dad's gonna kill me,
I can't tell him, like,
shoot, I gotta figure out
what's dad gonna, you know,
dad will know how to fix this.
Yeah, yeah, yup.
And that's where you hope, again,
that's where you hope
we've done it right,
I've done it right, you've done it right.
And there is no manual for this.
Like that, I mean, we
say that, we all know that,
every kid is different,
every parent is different,
every situation is different,
and it's just like,
the stakes are so high,
I think this is why I get so tired,
because the stakes are so high with that,
and it's like, if I
don't respond appropriately,
what is the damage that
I'm going to cause, you know?
It's just, like, I don't
know, I struggle with that.
You know, here's my thought,
my first initial
thought right off of that is,
I think you're gonna be okay,
I think you're doing really good.
And partially why I say that is because,
kids are incredibly resilient,
you see kids that have grown up in
horrific households,
horrific, they don't know different,
and they love those people that are
taking care of them,
even if those people are doing things
they shouldn't be doing to them,
they're not taking care of them,
they're not
providing, they're not loving,
they still, kids still connect with them.
And sometimes to an
incredibly unhealthy level,
where they don't want to
be taken away from that
horrible situation.
So I always, in the back of my mind,
when I think like, "Gah, I'm just,
"I'm dropping the ball."
You know what I mean?
I think about those
situations to some degree,
not that that's a
measuring stick by any means,
I'd like to think we're a
little higher than that,
and I know you are honey.
(laughing)
But that's where it's just
like, you hope you do okay,
and, you know, like we said
to him just this last week,
I've already taught you
what's right and wrong.
I don't have anything else to teach you
about how to be a kind
person, a moral person,
the difference between right and wrong.
In our household, we've
got that thing upstairs
that talks about the
fruits of the spirit,
right next to
something about just how to be,
traits of being
successful, right next to another one
about just going out and
being a king or a queen,
just really digging in
and pumping yourself up.
So I mean, at some point it's like,
we've given you everything we can,
we're just trying to steer
you in that one direction,
please, please, please.
Please go that way.
That's exactly right,
that's exactly right.
And it's a little scary,
although we did say this
quite a few times throughout the years,
we're like, people way
less equipped than us
have done this just fine.
Like, so hopefully we're okay.
Do we say that or that seems like,
way less equipped, how do we define that?
You know, there's people who, you know,
had kids when maybe they
weren't ready to have kids,
and it popped out a little
bit sooner or later or whatever.
I was trying to put
you in a spot to like,
seeing anybody out.
Period, and ended up with kids.
You're talking about Mike and Mary,
is who you're talking about.
Oh yeah, Mike and Mary, obviously.
Well, we know Mike, I
shouldn't use that one.
Yeah, but we don't know a
Mike and Mary to a Mary.
Right, right.
You know, a Jesus and a Joseph.
And Mary, yeah.
God, if I know them, I mean, you know,
like we've read about them.
They're in my heart.
Deep down in my heart.
What's the next line I
wish I could remember?
Don't let Satan get it out.
Oh yeah, there you go.
Just let that light shine, hon.
That little light,
that little light of mine.
Of yours, yep.
Needs to shine.
So that was fun.
So that's all that Hoko stuff.
It was great to get
to know their parents.
Yes.
Because there's a
couple of such parents there.
So we got to see, we
got to meet some parents.
And that's always, it's not awkward,
but it's a little awkward.
I was trying to think
back if my parents ever met
like my girlfriends in high school.
Yeah.
Parents.
And I know they did at some point, but.
Well, yeah, I think,
I know that they have,
because your mom's still
friends with some of them,
but one of them.
With one of them, but yeah,
I think she did her hair
or something like that.
That's why that one was.
Until way after we
were no longer a thing.
But I don't think they
ever came to what we just did.
They took pictures of me, I thought,
by myself at the house.
And then when I went to the other place,
I think they got
pictures from other people.
Oh, okay.
So that was a little
different than how we did it.
I could be misremembering that too,
but it was totally different.
I was actually telling your parents this
while they were there.
Wow, there's all these things going on.
But I mean, everybody knows this.
I mean, how funny.
It's just so
different now with the cameras
we all have on our back pockets.
Yep.
Right?
I mean, I took 160 pictures probably.
And I'm never gonna go through them
and erase the bad ones, ever.
But when we were in high school,
it was literally, you
had a 24 on that roll.
And maybe you already
used two or three of them,
so you got 21,
because you're not gonna
put a whole nother roll
in while you're there, right?
It's true.
You don't have a chance to check it.
So you get your 12 best poses,
and it's like, well,
maybe I'll save five of these
pictures for something else.
(laughing)
You get what you get,
and you don't get upset.
Don't get upset.
Yeah, because you're never gonna know
if they're good pictures or bad pictures
until after they're developed.
Right.
So when I took the kids out,
so I drove the kids to
their restaurant afterwards.
And then I drove them
back the whole way there,
and I think a lot of the way back,
and I know there was some discussion
about what happened at the restaurant,
they were going through the pictures.
(laughing) And I know some posts
were made in that meantime,
whatnot, you know, so
they were constantly
leaning over, showing
each other the pictures
and stuff like that, so.
That's so funny.
That is this generation.
It is?
Whereas ours was,
pictures are over, done.
Doesn't matter, we're
never gonna see them.
Right.
Like, I literally have two
pictures from prom, probably.
One's because I had a crazy girlfriend
that threw most of it away.
Yeah, which is crazy.
By the way, thanks for that.
Yeah, thank you.
Because it matters now, right?
Jeez.
But, well, I'd like to see them.
I know, that's what I'm saying.
I would've, those were my memories.
Those were your memories.
That still makes me mad.
Well, next episode,
we'll get deep into that.
Yeah.
But that wasn't a big
deal for us, though, right?
The pictures at the time,
it was almost like we
had to check that box.
Everybody stand on the staircase.
Yeah.
You know, okay, now
everybody put your arm around them.
Obviously, when you and I were there,
we just did a little, you
know, small flowers, corsages.
Yes, yes, you have to
have the flower exchanged
to the boutonniere and then the corsage,
the wrist corsage or whatever.
Like.
And then we went on,
then we got in the limo
or someone drove us or whatever it was.
You went to the dance,
or you went to dinner,
then the dance, and then maybe to
someone's house afterward.
That's exactly.
Yeah.
That's exactly what it was.
Yeah.
Back in the good old days.
Yeah, yeah.
That's, I mean, it's a big part of it,
back in those good old days.
Although when I was looking at the reels,
I did notice a couple pictures.
There was one where I was like, you know,
I was tying his tie and
there's another boy here,
our oldest son, our oldest son's friend,
his parents weren't
actually able to be here for it.
He didn't know how to tie a tie either.
So I was teaching them
both how to tie a tie.
I tied his tie for him, you know,
and then, you know,
just some of those things
that you pass on, like, you know,
the right buttons to
button on your jackets
and stuff like that, so.
Yeah.
There was a picture of
me talking to our oldest
or doing something with the tie, right?
You probably took it
or our daughter took it
because I know both
of you are taking some.
I look so old, I'm like looking down,
I'm like, oh my wrinkled
chin, like what is going on?
No, it's horrible.
I was like, that was one of
the first ones I looked at.
That's a picture that I,
one of my first pictures I looked at
and I really thought,
wow, time is hitting me.
Because these are the years.
Didn't we just recently hear somewhere
that it's like the years 46 to 52
that life just crushes you?
I didn't mean to hear this.
From like an aging perspective.
Oh, I didn't hear that,
but I mean, I believe it.
I feel like I turned 46 and just.
I must have heard it independently,
but it's like somewhere in there,
most people look very young, excuse me,
most people look very young,
even the young looking
ones look really young
until they get to about 48-ish.
And then between like 48
and like 52, 46, 53, 54,
somewhere in there, old man
time turns the page on you
and you start looking.
Because most 50 year
olds, they look 50, right?
And I don't mean to offend anybody there,
but I mean, I could say most people,
or I can nail their decade, right?
And 50 year olds are a
little bit easier to pick out
than a 40 year old versus a 30 year old.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And I think that's
because father time is.
Just like hits you with a pan.
And I think I'm being
hit, I've just noticed.
And I'm not looking for anything there,
but I did notice in that picture,
because I was looking down and I'm like,
oh, look at those, I look like a,
what are those dogs that all like wriggly
and stuff like that?
You do not look like a Sharpay.
So now it's like, I
gotta get the nip and tuck.
That's what I'm saying.
Gotta get the nip and tuck.
Little bit of nip.
And a little bit of tuck.
Little bit of tuck.
I don't know.
That is the one piece of plastic surgery
I would totally have.
You have a family history.
If I have that genetic
thing where we called it,
so my grandmother had it,
and we called it her gobble,
and I remember being
a kid playing with it.
And so if I get that.
You played with it and she let you?
I don't think she liked it.
I was probably pretty young.
You were like, look at your gobble.
If I get a gobble, I 100%
am getting that removed.
I am not too proud to have
that bit of plastic surgery.
Ain't too proud to beg.
I ain't too proud to beg.
That's not the name of the song.
It's not?
No, is it?
Yeah, it is.
I thought so.
Is it Salt and Pepper?
It's Salt and Pepper.
I thought it was like My
Man or something like that.
Maybe it is Ain't Too Proud to Beg.
I was just trying to
throw out another song.
I know.
A little throwback there.
I do like this.
We should just
interject random 80s, 90s songs.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I've done a couple of
lyrics here and there.
Yeah, that's one, depending
on what age you are in you.
But I feel like I'm
getting a gobble before you do.
Anyways.
Yeah, you're not.
But you have two years on me, just wait.
Oh my gosh, if I'm 48 and--
I'm just nervous what the next two years
are gonna do to me if
I'm just really seeing it.
Because I've said it before on here too,
not to get into this stuff too deeply,
but it's like I've just,
there aren't very many
thin men in their 50s either.
You know what I mean?
Or women.
Or, you know, what's the word, not thin,
but sleek, still kind of tight.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, like really fit.
Well, even fit.
But I mean, and I think a
lot of that is just because
we're just in the middle of our highest
earning potential years.
There's zero time, we
talked about it a little bit
last week, you can only pick
three of the top four things.
Exercise does get kicked to
the curb a lot of the times
in this scenario.
And it's not until you, after you retire,
that you have that ability and time
to get yourself back in shape.
So it's like, your dad
was in really good shape
when he was, after he retired.
But I did see videos of him in his 40s.
And he was not in that same shape then,
you know what I mean?
And I'm not throwing him
under the bus or anything,
because he was working
and raising kids too.
Same thing we're doing.
So I just see that so
much of myself right now,
where it's like, I'm
skipping so many workouts.
I'm not consistent in the
last, since I hurt my knee,
since you hurt your knee,
this has been a tough year.
And I am just not taking that weight off.
So I mean, you know, I
haven't moved up in belt sizes yet,
but I mean, I feel
like I'm getting close.
And I still wear what
I wore in high school.
Yeah.
And, you know, one inch
a year from here on out,
it's not good.
So I also still wear
what I wore in high school,
or even before.
And so much so that when we were,
when my parents came,
they brought a whole
bunch of like pictures
and all kinds of stuff of my memorabilia,
whether I want it or not.
I got it, yay.
But there were pictures of me
and I was wearing clothes
that I still wear today.
In fact, our daughter was like,
yeah, you wore that
sweater just like yesterday
or like last week.
Yeah, it's a vest turtleneck.
I mean, it's hard to miss.
No, it's a sleeveless turtleneck.
(laughs) Okay. A vest?
You're right, yeah, yeah, sleeveless.
What are they thinking?
Like a tank top.
I was thinking tank top. Yeah, yeah.
Tank top turtleneck.
TT.
TT, tank top turtleneck.
Yeah, there's not a lot of those.
That might be a one of a kind in fact.
Okay, here's the thing though.
I get so many compliments on it.
And I did back then too.
I was like, that thing is--
No, it looks great on you.
25 years old. You wear,
it's not like you're
sleeveless in it though.
Do you wear a sleeveless?
Yeah, it's a tank top.
Skin?
Like you have bare shoulders?
Yeah. Yeah, okay.
I mean, it goes out
like it's work appropriate.
It's not like
spaghetti straps or anything.
No, it's not.
Yeah.
So there's spaghetti
straps to a turtleneck?
Yeah, I don't know
what that would look like.
Then it's like one of those
things that cousin Eddie wears.
It's a total dicky.
Dicky, is that what that's called?
Oh my gosh.
You're gonna sing.
I'd have to call you out on that one.
That would be really stupid.
Oh my gosh.
Anyway, but I still have those things.
Yeah, we didn't leave
ourselves enough time to go there.
We'll have to go through that
because I know there's
generations that listen to this.
And if you're the older generation,
you've probably
already started pawning off
all the stuff that was our
generations to your kids.
Like you've given it back to them.
Like, oh, here's a tub
or here's all the boxes
of all your junk, your high school,
your childhood stuff.
Cause we helped out,
we held onto it forever,
which we're doing the same thing.
All that stuff's upstairs
in our attic right now too.
And one day.
Yeah, so heads up kids,
it might be episode 984
that we're gonna present it to you.
Yeah, exactly.
Cause we'll still be doing this.
We'll still be doing this.
We're gonna get to a thousand
and then we're gonna stop.
I do the math to figure out how old
we're gonna be at that time,
but yeah, that just seems too hard.
Yeah.
Mapping is not working for me right now.
Yeah, the mapping, yeah, it's been,
like we said, we started out with this.
We have not sat down.
This is the first time
we've sat down together
since we were in
Cancun and it's been crazy.
You were so right when we took off
for the last flight to come home.
After our layover, you're like,
"Well, enjoy your last bit of rest."
And you were right, you called it.
Yeah.
You called it.
Well, I mean, that's not news to me.
I hear that often.
Kidding.
You know everything.
No, I don't, I definitely don't.
I definitely do not, so.
Well, what else?
Well--
As we round this thing up.
As we round this out, I mean,
I don't think the crazy
train is stopping anytime soon
because this weekend
you're headed to San Diego
with our youngest.
Four days, four days.
I know, because, you know.
Friday through Monday.
We don't have to have jobs
to pay for all this stuff.
I don't have a job, yeah.
Like, to pay for all this travel,
you do realize we
have to be employed to--
Yeah.
Yeah, it's crazy.
And we still don't, and the craziest
thing about it to me
is we still don't
know when we're playing.
So our flight back's on Monday.
I looked, it's not uploaded yet, is it?
I haven't seen it.
So we just had to buy a
random flight on Monday
because we don't know what
time we come back on Monday.
Yeah.
Which is crazy to me.
I know.
Again, luckily our kids are
all going professional, so.
Obviously.
I mean, what are we spending
all this time and money for
if they're not?
I mean, we're
doubling down at this point.
We are, yeah.
I mean.
Putting ourselves in a financial ruin.
Just in the chance, or just
to make sure that they go pro
and hopefully they pay us back then.
No, in the knowledge and
fact that they'll go pro.
Oh yeah, obviously.
Yeah, no chances, but I mean,
this is our only play
in life at this point.
I've already told them,
I've already made them sign
my contract that I'm their manager.
Yeah.
And I get 90% of their
first paycheck, year's paycheck.
I'm gonna add an
amendment for that right now.
Oh, okay, first year's paycheck?
Yeah, first year's salary.
Okay, okay.
I don't know what job I'm gonna do,
but maybe they'll employ me too.
Yeah.
I could do their laundry.
We'll have multiple.
Yeah, and then they could just sign up.
Well, if they take
90%, well, you know, like,
what's left for me?
That's a rabbit hole,
that's a rabbit hole, so.
Yeah, we got a big one, but you don't,
you have nothing going on this weekend.
Yeah, no.
Since you're staying home.
I'll be kinda quiet, I think,
because it's fall break coming up,
so it's not like the
kids will have homework.
I think someone has a
birthday party, I mean, so I'll be.
The traditional fall break.
Yeah, the traditional more
than one week fall break.
You know what, that's
what I was gonna say.
That is the one, that is the balance to,
they say like school's so
much crazier than them now,
but they get way more
time off than we ever did.
Yeah.
Way more time off.
A week and a day in October.
Yeah.
And then a week in November.
Yeah, I mean, we used to go to school
like Monday, Tuesday for Thanksgiving.
Oh yeah, we would.
You get like
Wednesday, Thursday, Friday off.
We didn't even get Wednesday off.
Yeah, I don't think we did either.
I'm just saying that to be.
Isn't that crazy?
Yeah.
Now they get the full week.
Yeah.
And then our kids don't
usually go back to school
until like a couple
days into the new year.
There's not a full month
of school, not even one.
April might be the only, I
might step on myself here, but.
Maybe April.
It's the only month
that they may not have,
they may have a full month of school.
It's crazy, right?
It is, it is.
They do, it is not easy, but
they get a lot of time off.
They do.
I think.
I know.
Candidly, I mean, if I'm being honest,
not that I actually
would rather have them
an extra week of the summer
and have a shorter
fall break, my opinion,
but I do like the time
off even during the year
because that makes our schedule
a little bit better for that one week.
I mean, it's not like
fly out of it at 5.45
and hit the ground running.
You sleep in a little bit, it's just a
little more relaxed.
So that's a good point.
There is a benefit to it.
It just.
Yeah, but you're
presenting for two days that week,
in the office.
In the office.
So it's, we should have
rescheduled those thousand people.
This is my fall break,
if you wouldn't mind.
If you could just move this for me.
I'd love it.
All right, well, we should
probably sum this up here.
All right.
This last week up.
Okay.
(humming)
Do we wait till the end of the song?
No, I thought you might join in.
Oh.
Do you know that song?
Yeah.
Okay, I'm just curious.
I thought maybe I
wasn't getting it at all.
Oh gosh, no, no.
It was way off.
Well then I was going
through, oh, in jeopardy,
like do they have to wait
till the end of the song
before they present their answers?
(humming)
I don't think the song that never ends.
All right, here we go.
One, two, three.
Sprint.
Blur.
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Same thing.
Yeah, totally same.
Same.
(laughing)
You need to explain.
We're already logged in.
I love it.
Love it.
I think it goes with all tang.
It does.
It was a sprint and it was a blur.
We did through it and
everything on the sidelines
was a blur.
It was a blur.
Yep, so we got it.
Keep on sprinting I guess.
Yeah, at some point we're
like, I'm still sprinting
and I'm running a
marathon, I'm exhausted.
All right.
You gotta find those moments to enjoy it.
I know, I know, and we did.
A little bit too in there.
Yeah.
Well we'll wrap up because
you gotta go cook a dinner.
I have to go cook dinner.
Because I have to get back to the sprint.
You're calling me on the track.
Big walk.
(laughing)
All right, thanks for joining.
We will see you next time.
Yeah, chow chow.
See ya.