A podcast from Selina Thompson Limited about exploring experiments in doing things differently, thinking about access, marginalisation and what we can learn through failure from disabled artists in the UK and beyond.
“So when we constantly remind each other, ‘hey, we deserve to be here’, that's power right there.”
Episode 4’s guests in conversation are Chiara Bersani and Maria Palacios. This episode is exploring experiments in doing things differently, thinking about access, marginalisation and what we can learn through failure from disabled artists in the UK and beyond.
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Selina Thompson Ltd is a national portfolio organisation supported by Arts Council England, using public funding from National Lottery.
Timestamps / chapter breakdown:
Short breakdown of chapters / areas of discussion:
00:04- 03:37- Introduction to podcast and guests.
03:42- 12:40- Toni Dee asks first question of how you got to the work that you've got to, like when you think about the practice that you have now, the job, the artistic endeavour that you have now, what was the journey to get there.Chiara and Marie talk about their journeys in their practice.
12:48- 44:34- Toni- Dee asks about accessibility in their countries. The guests answer talking about access, access being non-negotiable, complexity of the body, COVID, and the diversity of disabled people and disabled bodies.
44:41- 52:32- The guests and Toni-Dee talk about their most joyful failures.
53:48- -1:01:32- The guests and Toni-Dee talk about what they have learned from another artist or thinker that has transformed their thinking around success or failure.
1:01:32 - Toni-Dee closes off the conversation thanking the guests for joining the podcast.
01:02:12- Outro thanks to the team.
What is Documenting Failure?
Documenting Failure: a podcast developed and produced by Selina Thompson Limited
Documenting Failure’ takes its name from a quote from Leah Lakshmi Piepzna-Samarasinha's book Care Work: Dreaming Disability Justice, that clearly outlines that a success rooted in Disability Justice often looks like mainstream failure. It invites artists from across the UK and beyond to reframe such failures on their own terms, and in so doing move towards new models of success, access and sustainability