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So you don't miss any of
that NHL playoff action,
which is coming up very, very soon.
It is coming up in about 10 days,
I believe,
is the first of the first matchups.
And the national networks
have put out their schedule, too.
So Bruins will be on some of that as well.
And we'll see who they play.
It looks to be the Tampa Bay Lightning,
though.
It's getting pretty close.
Yeah, I mean,
there's been some back and
forth about it and about
the playoff format and how much it sucks.
And it does suck.
And it should be changed because, you know,
you have the Bruins, you know,
having a really good regular season.
And then you look at Tampa
Bay in the second wild,
first wildcard position
with more points than some
of the teams in the Metro.
So it just, they really need to fix it.
And have a straight one
through eight and seed
according to points in the
regular season to reward
the teams that have a
better regular season.
Yeah.
Tampa Bay is going to have
like 10 points or more
better than the Islanders
if they win that, if they win that thing.
So I agree with it.
I think the format sucks.
I think the Bruins and
Toronto Maple Leafs have
been screwed in past years because of it.
But I'll tell you two great matchups,
Boston, Tampa Bay, Florida, Toronto.
There's that end to it where
it's just great hockey.
Yeah.
But it's happening a little
too early in the playoffs, really.
Right.
It is.
Want that later.
Hey, rapid review.
And the Bruins had an
interesting week here.
Started out well at Carolina, a 4-1 win,
one of the better efforts of the year.
I mean,
they played really well in Carolina,
a team that's had that
number at times over the years.
And the Bruins really put
forth a really good effort
in that game and won in Carolina,
which was really nice to
see as they're playing some
really good teams down the stretch here.
And to this point, they were beating them.
Yeah, they were playing really well.
And that is a really good Carolina team.
Carolina's been playing unbelievable,
especially since Frederick
Anderson came back.
I think he was 11-1,
and Carolina as a team was
13-2-1 or something like
that since getting a march
or something along those lines,
maybe mid-February.
But they've been playing real good hockey,
and the Bruins went in
there and had a really nice
kind of playoff-type game.
game great road game they
scored three quick ones
early and then you know
hung on and closed it out
strong so a really good
effort in Carolina where
they've struggled certainly in the past
Right, and in Florida at home,
and what was a real
Donnybrook on a Saturday afternoon,
3.30 start, Sean McDonough on the call.
I mean,
it had all the makings of a really
good Saturday afternoon game.
And in the old days,
Saturday matinees could be
real snoozefests and bad
efforts and teams that are
half asleep and so forth.
But this year,
there's been a lot of really
good Saturday afternoon
games with some really good action,
and this was one of them.
3-2 win for Boston, Jesper Vogtqvist.
with the big overtime goal.
And at that point,
put Boston four points ahead of Florida.
It was a huge game as far as
the division was concerned.
And Bocas makes a really good play.
I think it was along with Lindholm, maybe.
No, it was Gryzlik, maybe.
Just inside the blue line,
they kind of converge.
Bocas makes the steal, comes down,
and just rips a snipe for a
goal to win the game 3-2.
He's been really good, Boquist,
since he's come up and
entered in the lineup.
And that's part of the
reason that Beecher hasn't
seen enough as much time
until recently he got called back up.
But Boquist kind of took
that fourth line center job
and held on to it.
He's been producing.
He has six, seven goals now, I think,
in a couple of months.
So, yeah.
he's really added a lot to the team.
He has a lot of speed,
which is something that the
Bruins lack overall up and
down the lineup.
So I think that's another
added plus to his game.
And, you know,
it was a really good overall win.
I think the Bruins stood up
to the Panthers' physicality.
They were ready to go from
the very beginning.
And it was a really nice win against,
you know,
a team that is probably going to
have a lot to say about who
makes it out of the Eastern Conference.
Sure.
And I think it's, it's been,
it's needed as far as
fourth line play because the Bruins,
I thought that was one of
the weaknesses of the team
was the fourth line is
couldn't get it right.
You know, Loco wasn't doing much.
Steen wasn't doing much
earlier in the year.
They were playing a little bit too much.
Weren't doing really anything.
Both of them kind of the same player.
Not a lot of size, not, I mean,
there's some speed there,
but not a lot of
physicality as much as you wanted and,
And then Brazo came in,
and then Boquist comes in,
plays pretty well.
And then you start to figure
that thing out.
Brazo gets hurt.
But Boquist, I think,
is kind of a sleeper coming
into the postseason.
He's got the speed,
and he's got some skill.
And I think on a bottom six,
he can make some things happen.
And they're starting to
figure that thing out,
the bottom pair on defense.
In the fourth line, on offense,
they're kind of putting
those pieces together.
I think it's one of the
reasons why they've been
able to win some games and
potentially win the
division is largely because
of the bottom pair in the fourth line.
So that was a really good
snipe by Boquist and just a
good play all around in the overtime.
And then, of course,
as the Bruins often do,
They put together a real
stinker at home against Carolina.
4-1 loss.
Just not a lot there.
Looked like they wanted kind
of the season to wrap up.
I think they had a little
bit of a hangover.
Okay, we beat Florida.
We've distanced ourselves.
We think we're probably
going to win the division now.
And there wasn't a ton of urgency there.
And Carolina wanted some
revenge for losing at home.
Yeah,
it seemed like the Bruins kind of got
caught reading their press clippings like,
oh, we've beaten all,
we've played all these
playoff teams and we've
beat them and we've closed
out games the right way and
we're playing with more physicality.
And, you know, Florida comes out first,
sorry,
Carolina comes out first shift of
the game.
They almost score.
Bruins get lucky on a shot
that sits on the goal line.
They called it a goal on the
ice and then it was waved off.
Uh,
but the Bruins just didn't have it from
the jump.
They seem to pick it up a
little bit towards the end of the first,
but from the, from the second period on,
it was all Carolina Bruins had, uh,
I believe four shots on
goal halfway through the
second period total.
Uh, so, uh,
It was all Carolina and the
Bruins seemed disinterested
and didn't really have
anything to say about what
was going to happen in that game.
It kind of reverted back to
those old matinees like you
were talking about,
even though it wasn't a matinee.
It reverted back to those
old matinees where it's
kind of a sleepy game and
the Bruins are just kind of
going through the motions,
didn't really have their skating legs.
There was almost no
physicality from either team.
It's almost like
Nobody wanted to get hurt.
And they're just kind of
playing out the string.
So, you know,
not exactly what you're
looking for heading into the playoffs.
And, you know,
I think the Bruins need to
still kind of ramp up a
little bit here to be
playing good hockey as the
playoffs begin.
Yeah, and three games to go,
and two of them against two
teams that are really
fighting for a playoff spot,
Pittsburgh and Washington.
I mean, they're right there,
right behind the Islanders
and looking to try to make the playoffs.
Both games on the road.
It won't be easy.
They'll be playing with tons of urgency.
Um,
and then finish it up with Ottawa at
home.
And, um, you know, so it, you know,
the Bruins still have to, like you said,
finish, finish with some,
with some zest and,
and play playing pretty
good hockey so they can go
into that first round series.
Cause they'll need it for sure.
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Chirp number one.
Where is Brad Marchand?
On the all-time Bruins list,
does he play beyond next season,
and is he underappreciated in Boston?
A lot going on right there.
All right.
Underappreciated in Boston,
I would say no.
I would say around the rest of the league,
I think he is.
I think the rest of the
league sees him as a rat and a rat only.
The players,
and we'll get to this in a little bit,
but I think the players
around the league have a
little bit of a different
view of him maybe than the
fans from around the league do.
What was the second one?
The second one was,
does he play beyond next season?
Yeah, I think he will.
I think he will.
I changed my mind.
I thought that he would
probably hang it up,
but I think he will maybe
go the Bergeron route and
go like year to year.
and hopefully signed a
team-friendly deal to keep him around.
You know, bonuses and so forth.
And as far as where he falls
on the all-time list,
I think he's probably top 10.
Um,
there's been a lot of great players in
the history of the franchise, clearly.
Um, but I think he's, I think he's top 10.
I really do.
Um, obviously Bork and,
and Busek and Esposito and, uh, or,
and I think Bergeron's ahead of him.
Um, Chara probably is ahead of him.
Um,
you know, after that, you know,
he might be in there six, seven range,
seven, seven, eight.
We're in there.
I would say.
Okay.
Oh yeah.
What do you think?
Uh, as far as the all time list,
you could argue, uh,
Top five.
And the reason why you could
argue top five is he's in the top five.
I looked at it and just
about every offensive
category in the franchise history,
top five and everything plus minus,
like all of it.
The only thing he wasn't plus five in was,
I want to say it was maybe
power play goals.
Yeah.
maybe, but plus minus ludicrous.
Yeah.
Uh, the, um, shorthanded goals.
Number one, uh, like all of them,
like he was up there,
top five and just about everything.
Um, does he play beyond next season?
I think he does a two year
deal to finish it off.
Um, after next season.
So that'll be 38 years old ish.
wrapping it up.
Is he under appreciated in Boston?
And I'm going to say yes.
And I think that people understand how,
I think people understand how good he is.
The thing that continues to
hold him back is his
reputation and the type of player he is.
Even in Boston,
I think there's still
people in Boston who won't
give him the total benefit
of the doubt because of whatever.
I don't know.
I don't want to say
character issues because he
seems like a good enough
human being and leader and
highly respected teammate.
But it's more like some of
the just questionable things he did.
And I think that kind of
sticks with you some,
so they don't take him 100% seriously.
And the Bergeron thing hurts
him because you can make an
argument he's a better
player than Bergeron.
It is an interesting topic.
Who's a better hockey player?
That's probably a really good,
interesting topic.
That's a really good conversation.
For the offseason.
Yes, it is.
Who is a better all-around hockey player,
like Marchand or Bergeron?
You can make a case for Marchand.
But I don't think some
people will because of the
Bergeron integrity piece.
Yes, I think that's part of it.
I think the selkies are part of it.
I think playing center and
having to play 200 feet is a part of it.
And being a mentor of
Marchant is part of it.
Are you better than your mentor?
Right.
I mean, offensively gifted,
I think you got to go Marchant.
I think creativity, I think shot,
I think on ice vision,
I think it's all Marchant.
So there certainly are, you know,
pros and pros and not cons, but pros and,
you know, less pros for each guy.
And but yeah,
I think that's certainly an
interesting debate that
that we should have down the line.
And maybe we should get it.
That's a really good debate.
And I,
and that has Twitter written all over it.
Sure.
It does.
That sucker will explode on X. Yeah.
But I think also the, the,
his size scoring over 400
goals at his size.
I was listening to Andrew
Raycroft talk about this on sports radio,
like it, his size and stature,
like the score of 400 goals
is like incredible.
It's like, he's like Theo flurry.
Don't he mean?
He's like, I mean,
he's like a modern day flurry, you know,
what's that?
I said without the cocaine problem.
Without the, right.
A lot of the Coke.
Yeah.
But the, you know, that that's,
but that's kind of that sort of thing,
you know,
to be at that size and just Martin town,
St.
Louis,
like to be at that size and to play
like that is like really
impressive and put up those
kinds of numbers.
And when he's done, I mean,
he's going to have next
year and then let's say he
does next year and two.
So he does three more years
and he scores 25.
So that's 75 more goals.
He's close.
He's close to 500 goals.
at the end of his career.
That's pretty crazy.
Yeah, I mean,
the people that say that he
doesn't belong in the Hall
of Fame or won't be Hall of
Famer is beyond me.
I don't understand that at all.
He should be a first ballot Hall of Famer.
First ballot.
He's going to be a top five
player in the history of an
original six franchise.
Yeah.
Then he goes to the Hall of Fame, dude.
Sure.
Like, I don't care.
You don't like him.
You think he's an asshole.
You know, you know, you know,
you think he's a pest.
You think he's dirty.
You think he's whatever.
You don't like him.
And that's your narrative.
And you're sticking to it.
Fine.
But don't be it.
Don't be it.
Don't be a dank.
I mean, he's going to the Hall of Fame.
Like, and he deserves this.
I mean, all the work he's put in.
I mean,
they thought he was going to be a
fourth line guy.
They thought he was going to be a third,
fourth line guy.
You know,
I was watching the Marshan and
the Thousand thing the other night,
and Claude Julien, you know,
said that Marshan told him
his second year he's going
to score 20 goals.
And Claude's like, yeah.
You sure about that?
But you scored one in games
in his first year.
And then he did it.
And then, you know, so exploded.
Yeah.
I mean, he,
he really has put in the work to,
to make himself that the play,
the play already that he is now.
And, and, uh, you know, uh, all those,
all those characteristics, um,
are probably part of the
reason that he's the
captain of this team now.
I mean, it just goes to show if you,
you know,
apply yourself and you put the work in,
you know, what you can accomplish.
And again, for the third year in a row,
the NHLPA, they had this little vote.
Which player do you least
enjoy facing but will want on your team?
Brad Marchand won it again at 29.19%.
12% more than the next guy,
Connor McDavid.
Like, by far.
Like, 30% of the league.
Yeah.
Would want to play with him,
but hate facing him.
Yeah.
That tells you everything
you want to need.
I mean, that's competitiveness.
No, that's all.
Yeah, that's all of it.
That's that's, you know,
coming up big in moments.
That's all of it.
Sure.
That's all of it.
That's a being a complete
pain in the ass and having to, you know,
scout for him, prepare for him.
No worries on the ice.
Penalty kill power play five
on five overtime.
Yeah.
Whatever.
Any of it.
So, yeah, I mean,
Marchand is... I think that
Marchand is going to be a
top five player after the
four guys you mentioned.
I think Marchand...
Well, it's a great discussion to have.
I think Marchand is going to
jump over Bergeron,
but Bergeron is going to
get the benefit of the
doubt largely because of the guy he is.
And I think in the respect
that people have,
they're going to hold him
up on a pedestal more, which is fine.
I'm not saying that's bad.
I'm saying he deserves it.
I mean, that's fine.
That's a good thing.
Yeah, I mean, it's no slight on Bergeron.
No, of course not.
Bergeron is still one of the
greatest players in the
history of the Bruins.
Right.
Well, for sure.
You know,
we're arguing a little bit of
semantics here.
It's like, you know.
they're both insanely great players,
Hall of Fame caliber players.
It's just, you know,
where would you rank them?
And that's a good, you know,
that's a bar side debate.
You know,
have a couple beers and fucking
go back and forth.
I mean, you can have five, six, and seven.
All time, right on that team.
Bergeron, Masha, and Shara.
You could make that argument.
Sure.
You can make that argument.
Those three are in the 5, 6, 7.
They're all in the top 10.
And then Krejci,
you can make that argument
that he slides into the top 10.
Jesus, that's pretty good.
Yeah, it's high praise for all those guys.
It is.
It really is.
All right.
Chirp to Jim Montgomery gave
insight on the goalie situation,
which is going to be a
complete fist in the ass
after when it's all said and done.
He alluded to the fact that
goalies will rotate.
Do you agree with this nonsense?
I told you,
I think they're going to do it.
I don't necessarily hang up.
I'm telling you right now.
I told you they're going to do it.
I think they're going to do it.
It's what they've done all
through the season.
Uh,
and they have had success with it in
the regular season.
And the last two years in the playoffs,
they have not had success with it.
They've,
they've gone without the rotation
and the team's lost in the first round.
So they're going to mix it up.
They're going to change it up.
And they're going to go with the,
they're going to go with the rotation.
I don't know if it'll be a
straight rotation and it'll be like two.
And then the next guy goes
in or however they want to handle it,
but they will do a rotation
in the playoffs.
So if it's one of the, so, okay.
Game one, three, nothing win at home.
They beat Tampa three, nothing.
All Mark stands on his head.
Yep.
You're putting Swayman in there,
who hasn't been great the last 28?
I mean, they are.
I mean, like I said,
I'm not sure if they're doing, you know,
if it'll be one game and then one or,
you know, two and then whatever.
But, yeah, I think they'll do it.
I think they will.
I think they'll put Swayman
in for game two.
And and, you know, if he loses,
then they open themselves
up to a ton of criticism and me included,
because I don't think they
should do it either.
I think they should ride the
hot hand going in.
And the second half of the
year since the trading deadline,
Allmark has been better now
in the playoffs.
Historically, in the last couple of years,
Swayman has been better.
So we'll see what happens
when the rubber hits the
mode and they actually have
to make a decision about
who it's going to be right now.
If you had to ask me today,
who are you starting game?
One of the playoffs, I'm saying all Mark,
cause I think he's been
better recently and you
ride the hot hand.
Um, but you know, if,
if all Mark goes in and
then lets in a couple of
softies in game one, you know,
it'll be swimming in game two.
And, and then if he wins, um,
I don't know what they do.
I don't know if they go back.
That's the thing I'm trying
to tell you is just like,
so you lose game one, five to one,
then fine.
Put Swayman in.
Great.
But then Swayman wins the
next game four to nothing.
So you're going to put all my game three?
No, that's just no.
No, I mean, I agree with you,
but I think they will.
I think they're going to go.
And that's what I tell you.
That is what is really
scaring me about this thing
is that Montgomery is not
learning from the
overthinking last year that
cost this team.
cost it this they cost the
team his overthinking with
line shuffles and all that
shit so he so he's going to
do this thing to set it up
again okay so they win the
they go with all mark the
first two games they win
the first two games and
they're up 2-0 and they go
to they go to tampa bay and
they put swayman in in a in
a series shifting loss
because he sucks and now
you're back to what
Now you go back to All-Mark again,
but now you lost some momentum.
Like, I just don't see where it works.
It does in the regular season,
but it can work in the
regular season really well,
but not have anything to do
with the postseason.
Like, not work in the postseason.
Because it's just...
It's just, it's too risky.
It's too risky to find things.
It is.
It matters, you know, all that stuff,
team confidence, like any series,
it's like crazy.
We've seen it with the Bruins.
Like any series can shoot a dime.
And to allow that to happen
because you couldn't get
your goalies right, it's just stupid.
Yeah, I mean, I agree.
I agree.
I think that they shouldn't
do the rotation, but they will.
And then we'll have to see
how it plays out,
and we'll have to kill them for it.
Literally, no one's ever done it.
This is what I always say
about stuff like this.
If no one's done it before,
then there's a reason.
You know what I mean?
If no one's ever done it before,
then there's a reason why they haven't.
We saw it last year with Florida.
Alex Lyon's in there.
Doesn't play well.
They put Bob in there.
And then they, that's it.
They win.
They go on and run.
That's how you do it.
Like, that's how you do it.
So, but,
but this rotation and making sure
that the second guy gets in there,
it's not October, dude.
Like you get this, this scares,
this scares me.
This could be something that
really prevents them from
advancing deep is screwing
with this thing because then you're,
then you start screwing with
people's minds and Swayman
hasn't been playing well anyway.
And I don't know.
It's just, it's just too risky right now.
I'll put them in there to win and move on.
Like you don't play a lot of back to back,
you know, have some,
but you don't play it.
I don't think they play
really back to back in the playoffs.
Um,
I mean,
if they were going to do a
back-to-back here and there,
I could see them going with
the other guy in the second
back-to-back because
they've done it all year.
But, you know,
if there's enough rest in between games,
like, I don't know.
Yeah, it's...
It does.
I mean, it just does.
Because last year,
I think we had some real
moments that hurt the team.
And this is like, without this too much,
go with the Hawkeye was
playing really well.
You don't have to,
you don't have to the wheel here.
And I know that Jeremy
Swayman is a star in the whole season.
And it's hard to go second
star to not starting in the post season,
but that's the way it goes
with goaltending.
It's the way it goes.
Like, that's the way it goes.
Allmark's playing better.
Play him.
Like, that's the way.
It's not some, you know,
first-line center that's not playing well,
and you put some other guy in there.
Goalies are different.
So I just, I don't know.
I'm scared of this whole situation.
And it'll be fascinating to
see what happens.
But I'm really scared.
Now,
they may be able to handle it themselves,
the two goalies, and do it well.
And maybe they are the
aberration in the history
of the freaking league.
Maybe they are.
Maybe they have what it
takes to handle this.
And then it's fine.
But the odds say that it's a real risk,
I think.
All right.
Trip three.
Is this David Pasternak's
greatest season to date in
the whole grand scheme of things?
Uh, I would say yes.
It could be if you look at
the whole ball of wax.
Yeah.
I mean, I would say yes,
because of without him,
I'm not sure this team
makes a playoffs this year.
Right.
I mean, they, they have a good defense.
They have good goaltending,
but I don't know if they
could score enough goals.
without him to make the playoffs.
Like he has over a hundred points.
The next closest guy has under 70,
like marching under or right around 70.
Right.
He has 28 and yeah, it's under,
isn't it under?
I think it might be under.
So, I mean,
that's like a 40 point difference.
Yeah.
You know,
and they've talked about some of
these other heart trophy guys, you know,
um,
having big gaps between what
they've done and what other
guys on the team have done.
But other guys on some of
those other teams still
have guys in the 70s and 80s.
It's a drastic drop between
Pasternak and the next guy, Marchand.
So I think it has been his greatest year.
He's maybe improved a little
bit physically, too.
He's thrown his weight
around a little bit more.
He seems more ready to battle and hit.
Whether that translates to the playoffs,
we will find out.
But I think his overall game
has been better this year
than at any other time.
Well,
here's a tweet that was sent out by
Ty Anderson yesterday.
Since Jim Montgomery called
out his team in that
practice before the Florida game,
David Pasternak has been on
the ice for nine goals for
and two goals against in
over 100 minutes of five-on-five play.
Among 77 forwards with over
100 minutes of 5-1-5 time
play over that span,
only seven forwards have
been on the ice for more
goals for than Pasternak.
Only four forwards have been
on the ice for fewer goals
against than Pasternak.
Only 10 of those 77 have
more 5-on-5 points,
and only six forwards have
drawn more penalties at 5-on-5.
Pasternak has also a goal or
assist in eight of the
team's 19 goals over that span.
42%, to your point,
and scored in the shootout
win over the Capitals.
So his value just there,
and that stretches off the charts,
he's played 20 minutes of ice time a game,
the highest ice time he's
had in his career.
He made a 200-foot play the
other night that what
people say he doesn't play any defense,
which is kind of a crock now.
He does play a little more physically.
He's not Ovechkin,
but he'll play physically.
He'll hit guys.
He'll get in a scrum.
He'll do those types of things.
Enough.
I mean, he does it enough.
to be okay,
to be fine for it not to be a liability.
He doesn't enough.
He's just,
he's taken on a leadership role.
Like he, he plays every game too.
Like this is a guy that
people say isn't physical
and isn't this and isn't
that and soft and this,
and he plays every game.
Like, and that's for a guy like him, like,
That's, that's impressive too.
Yeah.
I mean,
he really should be getting more
heart consideration and
more heart than he is.
Um, but you know,
your Kucharovs and
McKinnons and McDavid's have just had,
you know, ridiculous.
They're both, they're all looking at,
you know,
Kucharov and McKinnon
upwards of 140 points,
McDavid's in the 120s or whatever.
So, you know, but he should, based on,
you know, his value to the Bruins,
you know,
I feel like he should be in that
consideration because I
think without him...
they don't make the playoffs.
Whereas those other guys teams, you know,
there's still some star
players around those guys.
Whereas, you know, the Bruins, like I said,
there's not much
offensively without him in the lineup.
Yeah.
You got,
you lost two of your best centers
you've ever had in the
history of the franchise.
And, you know,
he just hasn't missed much
of a beat or his goals down short,
but he had 60 for Christ's sake, like 61,
whatever it was like,
he's going to score 50 goals, uh,
Yeah, he's still almost 50.
I mean, he's 47 goals.
Yeah,
he's still almost 50 with Zaka and
Coyle as your centers.
Like, I just – and you're right.
Kucherov, if it was me, I'd pick Kucherov.
just because I don't think
that team's great either.
He's out there scoring 147
points or whatever it is.
Christ,
Stamkos has 39 goals or whatever it is,
and larger because
Kucherov's on the team with him.
Not taking anything away from Stamkos,
but he's much older now.
You wouldn't think he'd
score 39 goals this year.
Um, and I'm just, and I'm going to,
and I'm going to tweet, uh,
to my own horn here about
McKinnon because my, um,
my wild prediction going
into the start of the
season was he was going to
score 50 and win the heart.
Hit the hat trick last night to 51,
and he's right in the mix there, baby.
He's in the mix, dude.
You might have a double
whammy right there.
Oh, he's right.
He's right in the mix.
So, you know, good call by me.
Yeah, you're in the mix,
and I'm in the mix with, you know,
60-plus goals for Matthews,
and DeBruyne's still stuck at 18.
Like, here we go.
Here we go.
Poor, poor, poor Jake.
Um, boy, Jake, the breast thing that,
that that's going to be interesting.
We need him to get hot.
He's in a cold street right
now and we need him to get hot.
Did you see part of that?
He's so streaky that he's in this thing.
You're almost waiting.
Like he's really close to
turning it on to being on a
hot streak right at the right time.
Exactly.
So this could be good.
This could be good.
Chirp for Danton Heinen
nominated for the Bill Masterson trophy.
I'll tell you that Heinen is
one of the best pickups.
When you factor in the whole picture,
one of the best pickups of the off season,
like in the league, not just them.
Oh yeah.
In the league.
For God's sakes,
like to pick this guy up
and have him be pretty much
on the top line now is insane.
Yeah.
Yeah, he is essentially on their top line,
which is Pasternak, Zaka, and Heinen.
And he's been unbelievable
since he came into the lineup.
He does a lot of the small
things for those guys.
He's a smart player.
He has a good hockey IQ,
so he makes a lot.
There was a play last night.
when I was watching the game
where he cut across a
neutral zone from left to right.
And he did kind of a little
behind the back, little backhand, uh,
like a little tiny,
so like a three foot pass sauce pass,
but it was right to pass
knock in stride and allowed
him to come into the
offensive zone with speed.
And he got a really good chance off of it.
He just does little things
like that that really help
that line succeed.
And he's been fantastic
since he came into the lineup.
And I'm trying to find his stats here.
So 16 goals, 19 assists, 35 points,
plus 14 assists.
You know, he's having a really,
really good year.
He has 80 hits, 45 blocks.
I mean,
he does a little bit of everything.
And he's getting paid, you know, peanuts.
So if you can find me a guy
that's been a better value
than him across the league,
I'd like you to show him to
me because I don't know if
there's one out there.
I can't believe I'm saying this,
but going forward,
who would you rather have,
Danton Heinen or Jake Dabrowski?
Like, seriously.
I mean, right now,
it's a legitimate question going forward.
Who would you rather go with
going forward after the season,
Heinen or Dabrowski?
I mean, right now you have to say Heinen,
right?
Wouldn't you?
Because it's probably going to be cheaper.
Sure.
You probably get Heinen at half the price.
Yeah.
And he does exactly,
he's doing exactly what
Jake is doing right now.
Jake has 18 and 20 or whatever it is.
And Heinen has 16 and 19.
Jake has 18 and 21.
Yeah.
Heinen has 16 and 19.
So Jake's done a little bit better.
Jake's plus seven.
Heinen's plus 14.
Yeah.
Jake has 102 hits, which is good for him,
and 48 blocks.
People have said it.
He's playing a more complete game.
No doubt about it.
But the production is not
there for what they're paying him.
No, some people don't give a shit about.
That's really what I'm down
to is the production for
what they're paying you.
If you want to pay Jake
DeBrusque the same price
you're paying Danton Heinen, I'm all in,
baby.
I'm all in.
I need to fuck up.
Yes.
But he's getting like four
times more than Heinen is.
Yeah.
So and he's probably going
to want to raise.
So are you going to get him
give him more than four mil next year?
Coming off a down year?
I wouldn't.
No,
I'd offer him at best the same contract
he just had.
Two years, $8 million.
At best.
I'm with you.
I probably would go less than that.
I mean,
there are probably teams around the
league that are willing to
pay more than that.
I'm sure Edmonton would love
to have a guy with his
speed and finishing ability
on a team with the likes of
Dreisaitl and McDavid and
Hopkins and Hyman.
Um, so, you know,
maybe they swoop in and
give them a little bit more money,
but honestly,
they should be focused on defense.
Like half the fucking teams
around the league just
forget about defense.
Um, so it'll be interesting to see what,
what happens with him.
Um, but I think you're right.
I think Heinen is certainly
making a case for himself to be, you know,
a candidate here to, to sign, you know,
a longer term extension
with the Bruins in the off season.
I think the Bruins are going
to let DeBrusque walk.
I really do.
And I think they're going to
go with Heinen like two years,
like a Freddie deal, like two years,
five million, whatever it is,
and do that instead.
And I think they're going to
let DeBrusque walk.
I really do.
Unless DeBrusque doesn't
have any real other offers
and they're able to give
him a low ball thing.
I really,
I really think he's going to be
gone and they're going to
just let him go for nothing.
All right.
Chirp five.
Do you feel better about the
way the Bruins are closing games now?
I was until yesterday.
Right.
I'll tell you what, Peek and Wotherspoon,
up until the last game,
Peek and Wotherspoon have
helped because they play a
little bit of chippiness
and a little bit of attitude.
The Florida game,
I thought that they were a
huge part of it.
but a huge part of it
because the team sort of
rallied around them and
they didn't back down from
the bullshit and they ended
up winning the game.
I thought it was a really
good moment for the team
and it shows some real
value from that third pair.
If they get, we've said this before,
if they can be Ference and McQuaid,
then that's going to re the
Bruins could really make a run here.
They could.
And I'm going to, I'll,
I will say that boldly, uh,
that they could make a run
if that third pair plays
like that and does that.
I 100% agree with you.
Now, the other problem is, though,
you have games like last
night where Wotherspoon was bad.
Bad, yeah.
Not good.
Not okay.
Not like Holder's own.
He was bad last night.
So, you know,
there's things like that that
you have to worry about.
How's his consistency?
Is he going to be able to
handle it when it ramps up
another level when you get
into the playoffs?
Especially against teams
that four-check hard like Carolina and...
um, Florida do.
Um, but I was encouraged,
I'll tell you by the, by the, you know,
the games leading up to, uh,
last night's hurricanes game.
So I,
I would give that pair a shot in the
playoffs going in.
Um, and then, you know,
if one of them is terrible,
then you have a really good
veteran in Shattenkirk.
That's that has a ton of
experience that you can plug in there.
But I'm giving those guys a
shot because I think you do
need their kind of
no-nonsense attitude and
physicality come the playoff time.
Yeah, and maybe it's a matchup.
Maybe that's it.
For a while, we'd do something.
But he wasn't very good.
He's the third pair of defensemen.
He'd be great every game.
He'd be playing all nights.
this is a 12 minutes,
15 at all type of pair D. Uh,
you're breaking up through all of that.
So I'm,
I couldn't really hear what you said, but,
Oh, um,
With Wotherspoon, 10 to 12,
15 minutes per game, right?
Yeah.
Third pair.
Yeah.
Just be solid for that time.
Maybe Carolina's not in a good situation.
Not a matchup.
I don't know.
Hopefully, it's just an aberration.
Maybe it's just a, you know, who knows.
Chirp six.
Nelson's wearing 37 Providence.
It's just outrageous.
Uh,
Jackson Nelson should not be wearing 37
for the problem.
The amount of people who
didn't care was kind of shocking to me.
I was like, what?
I mean, I get it.
It's not the Bruins Bruins,
but Patrice Pergeron played
for the Providence Bruins
and wore that sweater for
the Providence Bruins.
Now, if they're going to retire in Boston,
I feel like they should, you know,
honor it there as well.
You know, is it a huge deal?
No, not really a huge deal,
but I think he should know better.
And I think the team should know better.
So yeah,
I just feel like the guys that handle that,
the equipment guys that handle that,
could have been a little
more sensitive to that and been like,
look, dude,
Patrice Burge won't wear 37 here.
I'm not giving you 37.
I don't care if you ask for it or not.
You can have 73 because
McAvoy didn't really play in Providence.
He went straight to the...
He played like two games there.
So I'll give you a 3.
I'll give you a 7.
I'll give you whatever.
But you can't have...
37.
I mean,
I guess three and seven are both retired,
too.
So if you're going to follow that, then,
you know, I don't know.
I just feel like it's, you know,
the guy just retired and he played there.
So I feel like that's it's, you know,
they should have given him
something else.
I just feel it's weird.
I feel like no one said like, wow, 37.
Should we give 37?
Like, would you give Mason Loris 77?
No, you wouldn't.
I mean, I mean, I don't know.
I'm just like.
why there's so many other
numbers give him some but
something else like I just
I don't know maybe I'm just
overthinking it but I'm
sorry I was like you gotta
be kidding me like no one
said like yeah I mean if
I'm sure there are guys
down there who've won like
number four and bobby ordan
providence bruins so like
yeah you know but he's it's
retired up here so
Right.
You know, would you do that?
Yeah.
I mean, you could still give him four,
but he played there.
Patrice played there and he just retired.
So it's in people's minds still, you know,
you're played, you know,
50 years ago, for crying out loud.
I feel like because he played there,
that should be retired there too.
Because he played there.
That should be like,
that's Bergeron's number.
He played here.
No one's using it.
I don't know.
What was Sag Sinitian?
Give him that number.
That's fucking open.
Give him that one.
Oh my gosh.
Actually, Sinitian's still playing.
I saw some tweet the other day.
He signed again.
No,
signed again in Bolivia or whatever the
hell he's playing,
like some overseas somewhere.
I don't know.
You know, the Bolivians,
they're big on hockey.
Trip seven,
Wotherspoon and Peake matched
up with the Kachuk line.
Seemed to embrace the challenge,
and that was just for the doctor audit,
as we talked about.
Yeah, it was.
Like you said,
they didn't back down from the bullshit.
And I think they were
aggressive from the very
beginning in that game and kind of,
you know, showed Florida, look,
you're not going to push us around.
You want to.
And, you know,
Tuchuk still did some dumb shit.
He boarded
bought a spoon in one play
you know and trying to come
off and say it was just a
push like he does dirty
shit away from the puck
kind of or within scrums so
that you retaliate and then
take a penalty and then
they got you because their
power play is fantastic and
reinhardt has you know
fucking unbelievable power
play goals has like more
than the rest of the league
combined for crying out loud
So, yeah,
I thought they handled it really well.
And I think they do bring an
edge to that back pair that
the Bruins desperately need, I think.
And I'll tell you,
if they if they do meet in round two,
Bruins were thought it was over 13.
The power play against Boston.
Boston shut them down all season long.
Penalty killing against that
really good power play, like you said.
So that was that was an interesting stat.
But I think that knocking on
wood right there.
Oh, yeah.
But Wotherspoon and Peake.
I just like what they bring
to the table when it comes to that.
They weren't taking any of the crap.
They weren't letting it happen.
And I think it really helped.
I really do.
And I think Kachuk was getting mad.
He got that boarding penalty.
He's getting all frigging whiny.
And that's good.
That's a good thing.
He's not just out there
laughing at you like he did
last year and talking about you,
how we're going to beat you
guys and all that.
I think that you saw a
little bit of the tide change,
which was nice.
All right.
A new segment called Who the
Fook is This Guy?
Because how about this?
We put out the Jackson Nelson.
Actually, no,
we talked about Jackson
Nelson on this very podcast.
Yes.
And you said how the Bruins
needed center depth.
You like the pick.
You like the signing, rather.
And this was a guy that, hey,
he's got size.
He's a center.
You need center depth.
So we put it on Facebook,
this little clip.
And old Linden buyers,
old LB thought we were
clowns because evidently
there's plenty of centers
in the organization.
No, you shouldn't,
you shouldn't sign any prospects.
You shouldn't,
you shouldn't bring any
centers into the system.
It should be all wingers,
D's and tough guys.
That's it.
We're all set at goalies too.
Yeah.
So just,
so just don't bring anybody else
in the system.
We'll just go with the guys
we have until they retire
and then fold the team.
That's a good plan, right?
No more centers ever.
And then when those guys run out,
we'll just fold the team.
Yeah.
Why does he think I think
Jackson Nelson is going to
play this year on the Bruins?
I don't know.
He just came out of college.
Yes.
Coyle is doing a great job.
Zaka is doing a great job.
They filled in admirably for
two of the greatest centers
in the history of the Bruins.
Okay.
Is that what you want to hear?
He's not going to play on
the Bruins this year.
He won't.
Okay.
He will not.
But you need depth down the
line for when Coyle and
Zaka aren't here anymore.
Right.
Coyle's 31.
So he's not going to play forever here.
So you need another, like, you need, like,
top centermen.
You need, you can go through the list.
Yeah, you need guys.
You need bodies.
You need guys.
You have to say that Jackson
Nelson is going to work out
and he's going to be the
next Charlie Coyle.
Hopefully he is.
Hopefully.
He may never play for the Bruins.
He may never play a goddamn
second for the Bruins.
But you've got to bring guys in.
They don't have any fucking
draft picks either.
So how are you going to
bring anybody else onto the team?
If you're just going to be like, oh,
fuck it.
We don't need centers.
Centers are good.
We're good.
We're good with everything
just the way it is.
So you either spend $9
million a year on a center,
which you can't do all the time or ever,
or you have to bring guys
in and see if something works out.
Throw it up against the wall.
Future GM.
If you're watching on YouTube,
future Coyotes GM, Lyndon Byers.
He's going to be the GM of
the Utah Super Soakers.
That's who he's going to be the GM of.
Hey, look, we love you, LB.
Come on the program.
Rip us to shreds.
Let's go.
Let's yell at each other.
I'm down.
Come on.
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And before we get to Beauty and Bender,
we are going to do a listener question.
And this is from Bitterman,
the Bitterman TBM,
not to be confused with
Pearl Jam's Betterman.
Great.
Sit a few of the big minute
players for a game?
Question mark.
Better to rest and waste energy now?
Question mark.
What do you think about load
management in the last three?
I am all for it, Bitterman.
I am all for it.
Let us manage the loads.
Let's give some of these
guys that have been playing
big minutes and will play
big minutes in the playoffs a break.
So I want McAvoy to sit a game.
I want Marchand to sit a game.
I want Pasternak to sit.
It doesn't have to be the same game,
but have them all sit for a game and,
you know, yeah,
let them get a little rest
before the playoffs ramp up.
Managing a load is a skill.
It sure is.
And I think the Bruins
should manage loads as well.
You got two teams fighting
for the playoff lives.
And I think that you
should... Coyle's played
every game a couple years in a row.
Pasternak's played every
game a couple years in a row.
Martian's up two hips.
This is a time here where you can...
And I know you want to
probably get Pasternak 50
and there's some,
there's some season things there,
you know?
Yeah.
I wonder if like a games
played streak or
consecutive games played street.
I mean, I don't, I don't give a shit,
but I wonder if it means
anything to some of those guys.
It might, you know, it might,
you go to the negotiating
table and you say, Hey, I'm playing.
Charlie Coyle goes to the
negotiating table at 32
years old and says, Hey,
I play every game.
Right.
Okay, yeah.
I mean, maybe that matters.
But I'm managing loads.
Nobody wants loads on a back-to-back.
No, not a back-to-back.
Not on a back-to-back.
No.
Hey, you know what else is a beauty?
It's Brad Marchand.
Yeah, he is.
This will teach those filthy
bastards who's lovable...
No question.
Marchand with 400 goals and
all sorts of points and first ballot,
all the famer and just been terrific.
I mean, really...
Incredible what he's been
able to do after the
surgeries and at his age
and size and in taking on
the captain ship,
what she said was heavy for
him and to be able to have
the type of year he's had,
he's got a chance at 30 goals and.
He's just been really good
all season long.
And, you know,
he had a dip there for a time,
but he still goes out there every night.
Talk about guys who go out
there every night, play hard every shift.
I mean, Martian plays hard every shift.
Yeah,
we've talked about that over the
course of this podcast
about what it takes to be
professional and why are
great players great rather
than just good.
And it's consistency.
That's the hallmark.
That's the benchmark.
And he has been one of the
most consistent Bruins over
the course of his career
from the very beginning.
He got into the lineup,
had a little bit of a tough
stretch at the beginning, and then
You know,
kind of came on and he's been
really good ever since, you know,
scored some big goals in
the cup finals to help them win that.
And and has really been kind
of a cornerstone of the
franchise from that point on.
And, you know,
he doesn't always do
everything the right way as
far as some of his on ice decisions.
And he's been penalized for that.
But, you know, if if there was a guy,
I mean,
and you just saw the graphic a
little while ago around the league.
that you want to have on
your team and that you
don't like playing against season one.
So, uh, you know, I'm, I'm certainly,
you know,
happy that he's a Boston Bruin
and that I get to cheer for him and,
and have him, uh, aggravate, you know,
other fans and fan bases and players.
What's great is you have these, you know,
Bergeron and Marchand
playing their entire
careers with the same franchise.
That's rare.
It is.
You have two Hall of Fame players do that.
I mean,
Wayne Gretzky played for four teams.
Right.
This is really impressive
that two Hall of Famers
would play for the Bruins
their entire careers.
Even Bork didn't do it.
No.
Even Neely didn't do it.
Even Espo didn't do it.
Or didn't do it.
yeah so that's really
impressive it's pretty uh
all right here we go uh
we're doing a a bender and
this is we got a little
this is a pruder film thing
going on we got an
anonymous abc guy possibly ray ferrara
Get off the ice.
Pittsburgh goes into
Washington and wins last night,
which was Thursday night.
It's 100% Ray Ferraro.
Yeah,
that was Todd Angeli singing the
national anthem in a hot
mic in the ABC booth or whatever.
Believe we caught Ray
Ferraro telling him to get
off the ice when he was
doing his homage to Rene
Grandcourt where he points
at the crowd and tries to
fire the crowd up a little bit.
And Ray was having none of it.
And then you heard him
talking on his podcast.
We did a little voice comparison there.
And that is 100% Ray Ferraro.
100%?
Is he a Bruins hater?
It seems like it.
I mean,
he was a Whalers guy way back in the day.
So, you know,
a little rivalry there from
back in the day.
And yeah,
it doesn't seem like he's a big
fan of the Bruins or Todd Angela,
who sings a damn good national anthem,
if I do say so myself.
So we're going to need an
apology video from Ray.
We need him to dress up like
a chicken parm sandwich and
apologize to Todd Angela.
And we'll post it.
And, you know,
we need some retribution here, right?
You need to you need to be
better than that.
That's not a very nice thing
to do for a guy who's just
trying to make a living.
You know,
he bartends at the in the club
level or whatever at the at
the garden and then comes down,
sings the national anthem,
tries to fire up the crowd.
What the hell's wrong with that?
Lighten up, Francis.
I'm telling you, I think it's, yeah,
you got to watch out for the hot mics.
I mean,
that's some intern fast asleep with
the mic.
And he's just, you know,
he's upset with Todd Angeli.
Todd Angeli pumps his fist
for about five seconds.
Yeah.
I mean, give me a break.
Like, he's not out there for a minute.
No,
and he might be one of the nicest guys
you'll ever meet.
In the world, by the way.
Yeah, and like you said,
it's a great anthem,
and the crowd's going nuts,
and what the hell
difference does it make?
He's got a real problem with it, though,
Ray.
Yeah.
Yeah, he does.
Absolutely.
So he is definitely our
bender of the week.
Yes.
We want to play that video
from time to time just to bring it back.
I love myself a chicken parm.
Yeah, so do I. I'm going to tell you,
I agree with him there.
Chicken parm is a fantastic
nickname and food.
Yes, it is.
Centennial season spotlight.
This week, we've got Tuka.
This week, it's Tim Thomas.
I still have Tuca slightly
ahead of Thomas all time,
but they are 1 and 1A.
And Thomas was obviously
terrific in the 2011
Stanley Cup championship.
And he was better as it went on.
Like in the Montreal series,
it wasn't great early.
No.
Yeah, which people forget.
But he was great,
had that miraculous save.
I can't remember who it was against,
but it was near the post
with the stick diving to make that one.
You always seem to have that
one signature save on a
Stanley Cup run where you
look back and say,
like Vasilevsky's had one,
where you look back and say,
there's the one.
That's the one that...
they're destined to win it.
And that was definitely it.
Yeah.
He was great.
He was a battler.
He was, he battled his ass off.
He was an undersized guy and, and he just,
you know, uh, flurry, uh, yeah, Larry.
No,
Luongo, sorry.
Luongo, yes.
Luongo was, you know,
wanting him to pump his tires and,
you know,
as a more technically sound goalie.
And, you know,
if he was deep in his crease,
he would have saved it.
And, you know, the back and forth and,
you know,
Tim Thomas that I didn't know it
was my job to pump his tires.
So there was a little bit of
back and forth there,
but he was a battler, man.
He just did whatever it took
to keep the puck out of the net.
And, um, you know, when he got hot,
he was as good as anyone
and he got hot and that,
and that cup final and the,
and the Bruins rode that
amazing defense and, and physicality to,
to the Stanley cup.
And, uh, he was a huge,
huge part of that and,
and a big reason why they want it.
And, you know,
it's nice to see him kind of
come back now.
Uh,
there was a little bit of a time there
where he kind of was away
from the team and had, you know,
kind of disappeared and, and,
kind of went out of the limelight and,
you know,
but he's been back for some of
these alumni events and the
centennial celebrations and so forth.
So it's good to see him back
around the team because he
should never have to buy a
beer in the city of Boston
or in this area ever again.
He was a huge,
huge reason why that team won the cup.
100 seconds in that season, 938 saves,
and a 2.00 goals against.
In his career, he had 214 games,
145 losses, 49 ties, and shutouts.
He was 2-5-2 in a 926.
There's two Vezinas,
two All-Stars Cup winner.
I mean, just an Orthodox goaltender,
only 5'11".
You know, took ahead all the tools.
Thomas like a battler and it
is a spot there doing
whatever he could to keep
the puck out of the net.
And, you know, he was a quirky guy,
but most goalies are aloof, quirky.
But he was and he was a lot
of the attitude he brought
to the table in that
specifically in that
Vancouver series was.
was a big reason why, you know,
the team sort of fed off it.
And, um, you know, he,
he was crushing the Sedins
in front of the net and, you know,
and just, that was his crease.
And,
and that team really took on that kind
of identity,
especially after the Horton injury,
like they really started to,
to fight back and stand up
to the Canucks.
And it was probably the
reason why they won, uh,
was because they were just more physical,
more mentally and
physically tougher than a
much more talented Canucks team.
Sure.
100% agree.
But that was a great career
for Tim Thomas.
Providence Bruins Beauty of the Week.
John Farinacci out of Harvard.
He's had a good year for the P Bruins.
Good.
Great.
Yeah.
Great grant.
34 points.
Mm-hmm.
He was a third round pick of
Arizona and your future Utah Soakers.
And, you know,
he's he's now a prospect and
a Harvard man.
And he's he's having a
pretty good year for
himself in his first.
This is his first year as a pro, right?
This is his first year as a pro.
I mean, he signed with the Bruins.
Yeah,
34 points as a first-year pro is
pretty good.
So, you know,
it's exciting maybe to see
some things to come from him,
and hopefully he turns into a prospect.
Hey, LB, a little more depth right there.
Hey, you need that center depth.
Without a doubt.
I mean, that was, Hey,
do you think that there
should be a section in Utah
where you're the cork
soakers and you have just a
section with all the,
they have the shirts on and
that's the cork soaker section.
There should be that section.
Well, do you, do you know what the more,
you know, you know what soaking is though,
right?
What the Mormons do.
Yes.
Because for those of you who don't,
you know, it's, you know,
probably a little outrated.
So, you know,
you can look that up on your own.
Okay.
soaking on your own and but
did you know they have
people that that like shake
you people get paid to
shake you yeah while you're
soaking so that like you're
not doing it but you know
the vibration is getting
down yeah yeah little
movement so they're you
know you're getting
movement from the from the
person who's actually
sitting there watching you
be on top of your girlfriend.
I just, I don't know.
That to me is wild.
It's a different type of
fornication for sure.
Yeah.
You know,
but it doesn't count in sexual
intercourse because you're just, you know,
playing a little game.
It doesn't count.
Just a tip.
Go ahead and Google it,
but we're just going to
tell you all what it is anyway.
Google it.
We don't want to describe it,
but here's five minutes of
what it really is about.
What it really is.
I mean, this is a, this is a, you know,
we're a hockey podcast,
but we'll give you, we'll give you all,
all you need.
I mean, it's a, it's a versatile.
We'll give you a little bit of everything.
Jackson Edward,
he'll give you a little bit
of everything to the face.
Yeah,
he'll give you a little bit of
everything.
He's got some goals.
He's got some assists.
He's got some fights.
He's got some suspensions.
He's got some questionable hits.
There's a guy who's tough to play against.
Seventh round pick, 59 games played,
seven goals, 23 assists, 30 points.
So he'll give you a little
offense to go along with
the style and the nastiness
and the crazy.
Let's be honest.
He's been suspended more than once,
numerous times for questionable hits,
questionable things that he's done.
So, you know,
he might be a guy that can
that the Bruins could use
on a bottom pair, you know.
in the future, you know,
a goodest type guy who's
going to just be out there,
just fucking shit up and,
and giving guys pause when
they want to come to the
front of the net.
Yeah.
Instead of going out and
getting a guy at the
deadline that needs to add
some toughness and an extra guy,
Jackson Edward could be
your guy next year.
You know,
he could be a guy that could come in and,
and be that guy.
If you need a little bit of rugged,
you know, defense and guy who gets to the,
he gets to the borderline
might cross it every once in a while.
Yeah.
I mean, maybe who knows.
Week ahead for your Boston Bruins.
April 13th at Pittsburgh.
April 15th at Washington.
Those two clubs right now are tied,
I believe,
right behind the Islanders
trying to get into the playoff push.
And then 4-16, the end of the season,
versus Ottawa at home.
Seventh player award night.
The shirt jersey giveaway night.
Shirts off your backs.
Yeah.
Shirts off your backs.
Yeah.
We could talk seventh player
award next episode.
Because it'll be announced already.
Who is your seventh player award guy?
That's that's I mean, Dan Heinen is.
Yeah.
I mean,
you can make a case just because he
came out of absolute nowhere.
Yeah.
I mean,
Dan Heinen certainly deserves some
something.
I think Jesper Bolquist
deserves something.
I think Trent Frederick
certainly deserves something.
Is that a good year?
Yeah.
You know,
I don't think you give it to a
top six guy.
So I don't think Charlie Coyle is into it.
I think Morgan Geeky is
another guy who could have
some votes potentially.
But to me,
I think you got to go with Heinen.
I mean, he basically came off the street.
He hung around for a month
or two while you tried to
figure shit out what was
going on with your bottom six.
And he comes in the lineup
and then has been a really,
really good piece ever since then.
And now you have him playing
on the top line.
I mean,
you can't ask for much more than that.
from a guy who was, you know,
on the street and then
comes into camp on a professional tryout.
So I think, I think he's my guy.
Yeah.
I think it's Heinen.
I mean, he wasn't even on the roster.
Like you, you didn't expect anything.
And now he's a top line guy
for you heading into the playoffs.
It's just like absurd what
he's been able to do.
And I, I don't think you can,
I get the coil thing.
Um, but I believe though,
He's won it twice?
I think he's at least once.
At least once?
Yeah.
So I think it's Heinen as well.
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