The Jennie Allen Podcast

In this episode, Jennie sits down with Judah Smith for an honest conversation about faith, leadership, pride, people-pleasing, and what it really means to stay spiritually healthy in public ministry. Judah shares vulnerably about his journey as a pastor, author, and leader navigating platform, criticism, and the tension between obedience to God and approval from people. Together, they explore how true spiritual formation is often hidden, slow, and deeply rooted in character, family, and presence with Jesus - not scale or success.

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What is The Jennie Allen Podcast?

Jennie Allen is the 2x New York Times bestselling author of 'Find Your People' and 'Get Out Of Your Head'. She is also the founder and visionary of IF:Gathering. She is a passionate leader following God's call on her life to catalyze a generation to live what they believe. Jennie has a Masters in Biblical Studies from Dallas Theological Seminary and lives in Dallas, Texas, with her husband, Zac, and their four children. ________ SHORT. FUN. TRUTH. REAL CONVERSATION ABOUT THE STRUGGLES WE ARE FACING AND THE GOD THAT SETS US FREE. Two episodes release each week - one episode of Jennie teaching and one interview.