The Story of Scale

Firing someone changes you. Harris and Chad share their first firing stories, the mistakes that shaped how they lead, and why most founders wait way too long.

Show Notes

Firing someone changes you. There's a version of you before that conversation — and a different one after. 

In this episode, Harris and Chad share their first firing stories and the mistakes that shaped how they lead today. Chad was 23, managing someone older than him. Harris let the tension build for months before it finally erupted. Both learned the same lesson: do it sooner, keep it short, and treat the person like a human. 

If you've got someone on your team you've been avoiding a conversation with, this episode is your permission slip. 

Key topics: 
• Why most founders wait too long to fire 
• The identity shift that comes with hard leadership moments 
• Michael Hyatt's advice on keeping terminations short 
• The "resignation test" — how to know if it's time 
• Why firing is a scale muscle, not a leadership failure 

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What is The Story of Scale?

Most business owners hit a ceiling and have no idea why.

The Story of Scale is a conversation between Harris III, a creative entrepreneur who has built businesses across entertainment, events, and coaching, and Chad Cannon, a business growth strategist who has helped companies scale from seven figures into the mid-eight figures. They've been friends for almost 20 years. One is driven by story. The other by numbers. That tension is the whole point.

This isn't for Fortune 500 executives. It's for the founder stuck between $300K and $10M who knows they're capable of more but can't figure out what's in the way. Expect honest conversations, practical frameworks, and stories that make you realize you're not alone.

New episodes every other week.

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