WEBVTT 00:00.200 --> 00:03.690 The Podcast on Haunted Hill will contain spoilers and swearing. 00:10.870 --> 00:14.290 I am the devil and I am here to do the devil's work. 00:15.190 --> 00:16.850 Please hold this. Michael. 00:19.110 --> 00:20.450 Be one of us. 00:24.470 --> 00:27.758 I didn't tell you my name. Hang up. I didn't tell him my name. 00:27.814 --> 00:30.850 They're all a part of it. They're all a part. 00:32.010 --> 00:35.122 Come, it is time to 00:35.146 --> 00:36.390 keep your appointment. 00:47.290 --> 00:50.658 Love is in the air everywhere 00:50.714 --> 00:55.466 I. Look around love 00:55.498 --> 00:59.074 is in the air every sight in every 00:59.122 --> 00:59.830 sound. 01:15.590 --> 01:18.854 Hello, sexy listeners, and welcome to 01:18.942 --> 01:22.398 episode 30 of the podcast on Haunted Hill. 01:22.534 --> 01:25.958 I'm your host, Mister Gav Chuck still, and I'm here with my 01:26.094 --> 01:29.050 friend, co host and lover, 01:29.480 --> 01:32.380 Dan Bone. Show us the bone. 01:32.960 --> 01:36.260 It's done. Love bone here, 01:36.720 --> 01:39.920 Dan. Trying to be sexy. It's not really working, is it? I was doing fine 01:39.960 --> 01:43.488 until you just ruined it completely with nothing. Well, you carry on being sexy. 01:43.544 --> 01:46.660 Hey, I'm just. No, I'm not going. How you doing? 01:47.080 --> 01:50.072 Very well. It's good. Yeah. 01:50.136 --> 01:53.376 Cool. This is one of your. Dan likes to always come up with 01:53.408 --> 01:56.656 themed episodes. And this is our Valentine's episode. 01:56.688 --> 02:00.512 So we thought, what's better than torture porn for Valentine's? 02:00.576 --> 02:04.080 Special thread? Well, you know, it's got porn in the 02:04.700 --> 02:08.428 genre name, hasn't it? So it's kind of sexy, 02:08.484 --> 02:12.004 I suppose. It's very sexy. Certain special someone in 02:12.012 --> 02:14.360 your life. Torture porn. 02:16.180 --> 02:19.716 A genre which came out in the sort of the two thousands. 02:19.748 --> 02:23.524 It sort of started and it sort of led the way for, first off, 02:23.572 --> 02:26.604 2000 to. Well, the films are still sort 02:26.612 --> 02:29.676 of going around, but they're not as. It's not as strong as genre now, 02:29.708 --> 02:32.524 is it? But we're getting to that. We're getting to that. And we're going to 02:32.532 --> 02:35.520 talk about saw and hostile. 02:35.680 --> 02:38.688 We are indeed two of the ones that really kick started. But again, 02:38.744 --> 02:41.300 we will get into that in a bit. What else? 02:42.320 --> 02:45.472 We are also gonna. We've got fantastic little world of the 02:45.496 --> 02:48.480 strange, haven't we? About a lovely couple. Oh, 02:48.600 --> 02:52.008 they are beautiful. Lovely couple, aren't they? Valentine's Day. 02:52.064 --> 02:55.592 Another one. So, you know, we're gonna keep the love going throughout this episode. 02:55.736 --> 02:59.096 They go out for dinner, don't they? They do go out for dinner. Yeah, 02:59.128 --> 03:02.886 they definitely do. Romantic evening out for a little bite of Gav. 03:02.918 --> 03:06.318 We've had a question. Okay. 03:06.494 --> 03:09.198 Yo. Yeah, we have, haven't we? Yeah. 03:09.374 --> 03:12.982 Mister Dean Martin, wasn't it? Dean Martin, what great name. I think I told 03:13.006 --> 03:16.142 him that over Facebook. It's just a great name. He's actually friends. 03:16.246 --> 03:19.750 I saw with our friends in Ireland, Jeff and Rachel. So I 03:19.790 --> 03:22.210 wonder if he is from Ireland also, 03:24.390 --> 03:27.222 tell us this thing, because that means I'm going over to Ireland next month. 03:27.246 --> 03:29.822 And that means I probably might even meet him for a drink if he sends 03:29.846 --> 03:33.010 to Jeff and Rachel, because that's who we're staying with. There we go. Dean, 03:33.810 --> 03:37.082 a listener, and he's a horror fan, 03:37.186 --> 03:40.870 from what I can see from Facebook. And Dean's asked the question. 03:41.370 --> 03:44.986 He's just seen the Purge three trailer. What do we 03:45.018 --> 03:49.058 think of the trailer? What do we think of the Purge and where this franchise 03:49.114 --> 03:52.498 might go? I've seen half of the trailer. 03:52.514 --> 03:55.906 I didn't want to watch it all because I didn't really 03:55.938 --> 03:59.090 want to spoil it because it was pretty much telling exactly what's going on story. 03:59.130 --> 04:01.550 And I was like, I don't really need to know. I could watch the film. 04:01.930 --> 04:05.450 I really like the first one of Ethan Hawke, actually. It's very 04:05.490 --> 04:08.102 interesting film, really, 04:08.166 --> 04:11.678 though, with the idea of the purge, you could actually go anywhere 04:11.734 --> 04:15.478 with any number of people in any household, every year, and keep it 04:15.494 --> 04:18.798 going as a franchise forever, really. You could even do, 04:18.854 --> 04:22.606 like, found footage with someone with a GoPro going 04:22.638 --> 04:25.126 out, say, right tonight I'm going to go out and kill people. You could really 04:25.158 --> 04:28.182 go off in different. Directions, I feel, with the purge, I'm surprised I haven't. 04:28.206 --> 04:32.650 They've done a found footage, but I guess it's working in a normal cinematic structure. 04:32.950 --> 04:36.930 What did you think of the second. One that was the more. 04:37.870 --> 04:41.398 It's not as memorable as the first one. I actually really 04:41.494 --> 04:45.222 liked the second one. Weirdly, my girlfriend, who doesn't like horror, she really 04:45.246 --> 04:48.478 wanted to watch the purge. So we watched it, and then when the 04:48.494 --> 04:51.006 second one came out, she was, oh, can we watch that one, too? Fine. 04:51.038 --> 04:54.446 We did. And I think we both actually preferred the second one a little bit, 04:54.478 --> 04:57.530 just because it was more of a. An action. 04:58.520 --> 05:01.768 Less horror, more action. Really reminded me of films like Judgment 05:01.824 --> 05:05.104 Night or what, you know, movies where the whole city's against 05:05.152 --> 05:07.832 you, like warriors and things like that. I quite enjoyed it. It was good. 05:07.896 --> 05:11.104 It's an interesting franchise to see where it goes. 05:11.192 --> 05:14.456 Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, that's what 05:14.568 --> 05:17.632 I think about. I'm interested to see the new one. It's got one of the 05:17.656 --> 05:21.200 guys from the fingers, the second one as one of the main 05:21.240 --> 05:24.448 people in it. But I think it links in, doesn't it? Links in? No, 05:24.464 --> 05:27.728 no, it looks good. But anyway, give us. Thanks for giving us a quick question. 05:27.784 --> 05:30.988 That's our first question ever. Yeah. Thanks, Dean. I did expect anyone to do it. 05:31.004 --> 05:34.640 I actually didn't even know that anyone listened to this show, tell you truth. 05:35.180 --> 05:38.636 Well, it's just me and you, Gav. Let's be honest. I am Dean Martin. 05:38.788 --> 05:41.524 Are you? I'm not really. No, I'm not really. He's a real person. He is 05:41.532 --> 05:43.468 a real person. There's some weird thing you're about to go off on. You didn't 05:43.484 --> 05:46.340 know where you're going when you started that, though, did you? Uh, not really. 05:46.420 --> 05:49.612 I'm drunk on love. Oh, high on love. 05:49.796 --> 05:52.948 High on love. Gav, seen that Simpsons episode where Homer 05:52.964 --> 05:55.932 can't drink booze? They just tries loads of different things. Oh, no, you haven't seen 05:55.956 --> 05:59.236 many. I hate this. I always pop up these Simpsons episodes. You know, 05:59.308 --> 06:02.960 I've never really seen which Simpsons episodes I did. What you talking about 06:03.000 --> 06:05.424 in that accent. I don't know why you do that. Accent whenever you tell it, 06:05.472 --> 06:08.940 boss. From the Simpsons. Why do you always do that accent, though? I don't know. 06:09.520 --> 06:10.620 What accent? 06:13.480 --> 06:17.260 Because you're from Bristol. You don't sound like that. It's weird. 06:17.600 --> 06:20.220 Stop it. I don't understand what's happening. Gavin. 06:21.680 --> 06:25.216 Listeners, Gavin has gone mental. Yeah. 06:25.248 --> 06:28.616 Anyway, so we've got a sexy Valentine's special this time, haven't we? 06:28.648 --> 06:32.412 So what are you doing for Valentine's? You're a lover, aren't you? 06:32.576 --> 06:36.796 I am a lover. Not a fighter. Not a fighter. But I 06:36.988 --> 06:40.636 am just having a nice day in with Alice. Really? We're gonna do a big 06:40.668 --> 06:43.980 roast, and then I'm taking her to a gig on Monday, the day after 06:44.020 --> 06:48.140 Valentine's. Not anything really too special, just chilled, 06:48.180 --> 06:51.804 really, you know? What about you? Nothing. Nothing. Keep keeping them, 06:51.852 --> 06:55.332 the fire and the magic. Alive with the missus, are you? No, 06:55.436 --> 06:58.200 we're not getting cards this year. We decided. 06:58.990 --> 07:00.850 Is it difficult with three children? 07:03.750 --> 07:08.350 Not really. And a dog as well? No, not really. It's just decided 07:08.390 --> 07:11.942 not to bother this year. Should we not 07:11.966 --> 07:14.250 do that? Yeah, let's not do it. All right, then. 07:15.830 --> 07:18.814 That's the conversation. You're breaking up a little bit, I've got to say. 07:18.862 --> 07:22.406 Can you talk again for me? Yes, of course. How do I. Lovely. 07:22.438 --> 07:25.800 I know. Oh, you sound great. Anyway, let's go for a break and let's come 07:25.840 --> 07:29.312 back and you're gonna open up your heart to us, 07:29.376 --> 07:33.768 your loving heart. I'm gonna open up my veins, Caffyn. In a very torturously 07:33.824 --> 07:36.856 pornographic way. Can't wait. 07:36.968 --> 07:40.464 Spill my gut. You're gonna ejaculate 07:40.512 --> 07:42.420 your brains all over the place. 07:43.040 --> 07:46.160 Wow. Can't wait. Let's do this. 07:46.200 --> 07:49.312 Let's take a short break. Looking for something different in 07:49.336 --> 07:53.328 your podcast library? 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The podcast under the Stairs is a proud member of 08:34.044 --> 08:38.356 Legion podcasts network. This is Duncan McLeish from under the stairs, 08:38.468 --> 08:41.564 signing off. And we're back again. Sexy, 08:41.612 --> 08:44.200 sexy times are ahead of us. 08:45.460 --> 08:49.000 We are sexy, sexy men. Gavin, can you do a good Barry white impression? 08:50.150 --> 08:51.610 Barry Wade. 08:54.270 --> 08:58.054 You can go a lot lower than me. All right, cool. Show me, tell me, 08:58.222 --> 09:01.262 tell me all about torture porn. Pornographic torture. 09:01.326 --> 09:04.398 Yes, torture porn. Weird, weird name. And we'll get 09:04.414 --> 09:07.190 into what it's called, what it is in a minute. But it's a weird genre 09:07.230 --> 09:10.758 name. So it's originally, these films record splatter 09:10.814 --> 09:14.854 films or gore films, and they are films that. 09:15.022 --> 09:17.982 I am using Wikipedia here. I'm not just spouting this off the top of my 09:18.006 --> 09:21.322 head. They are a sub genre of horror that focuses deliberately on 09:21.346 --> 09:25.310 a graphic portrayal of gore or violence, or graphic violence 09:25.690 --> 09:29.626 using special effects. They tend to display an overt interest 09:29.698 --> 09:33.034 in the vulnerability of the human body and the theatricality 09:33.082 --> 09:36.970 of its mutilation. And actually, the term splatter cinema 09:37.050 --> 09:41.230 was made up by George A. Romero. I don't know if you've heard of him. 09:41.810 --> 09:45.394 He did that. He made the phrase up to describe dawn of the Dead. 09:45.522 --> 09:49.290 Although Dawn of the Dead is generally considered by critics to have higher aspirations, 09:49.370 --> 09:53.576 such as social commentary, than to be just the simple splatter 09:53.648 --> 09:57.368 movie. In recent years, the use of graphic violence in cinema 09:57.424 --> 10:01.288 has been given the label torture porn, or it 10:01.344 --> 10:04.992 was originally called gorno. I remember when people were saying gorno, which is 10:05.016 --> 10:08.808 obviously across Gore and porno. That's almost as bad as the 10:08.944 --> 10:11.460 puppet in Saw gone. 10:11.920 --> 10:15.408 Yeah, yeah, gorno. I think that was the only film that I remember anyone 10:15.464 --> 10:19.688 describing as Gorno. You've got films like Braindead 10:19.864 --> 10:23.436 and to some extent, dawn of the Dead, which I've got over the top 10:23.488 --> 10:27.084 gore, but they're more sort of splat stick, which is another subgenre, 10:27.132 --> 10:30.612 which is like obviously slapstick, but with loads of blood and violence. 10:30.716 --> 10:34.068 So it's an interesting one. Everybody's probably seen at 10:34.084 --> 10:37.420 least one splatter movie or torture 10:37.460 --> 10:40.812 porn movie. Some of the old ones, such as I spit 10:40.836 --> 10:44.596 on your grave. What's the one that was banned 10:44.628 --> 10:48.260 for years with the body on the stick? You know, I mean. 10:48.420 --> 10:52.142 What? Salo? No. Cannibal Holocaust. 10:52.166 --> 10:55.590 Oh, cannibal Holocaust. Sorry. Yeah. Yeah. You could even say that that is like a 10:55.670 --> 10:59.750 gore torture porn type film, but it's become. I think 10:59.910 --> 11:02.582 we are still going to be talking about a Saul movie, but I think the 11:02.606 --> 11:05.302 Saul series, I think there was about nine of them in the end. And the 11:05.326 --> 11:08.214 hostel movies and a few of the other ones that have come out recently, 11:08.382 --> 11:12.126 they're all kind of. They've already kicked out the arse, really, haven't they? And really 11:12.158 --> 11:15.390 got everybody. Everybody now knows what that kind of type of horror 11:15.430 --> 11:19.096 is. It really was taking over horror and I. 11:19.158 --> 11:22.580 And, well, it was like the biggest genre in horror 11:22.660 --> 11:26.124 for quite a while. In the two thousands. A lot of films are coming out 11:26.132 --> 11:29.676 with just blood, violence and even remakes like Texas 11:29.708 --> 11:33.452 Chainsaw Massacre featured a lot more gore than the original. Just trying 11:33.476 --> 11:36.860 to cash in on this. This torture porn thing. 11:36.900 --> 11:40.532 What do you think about torture porn, Gavin? Yeah, 11:40.676 --> 11:43.280 not porn. Not porn. Torture porn. 11:44.620 --> 11:48.498 Yeah, definitely the sub genre. Like now, I'd say it's kind of found 11:48.554 --> 11:52.650 footage at the moment is the whole subgenre 11:52.690 --> 11:55.990 now, which ten years ago it was probably. 11:57.850 --> 12:02.034 Yeah, the torture pond, like you say. What do I think of it now? 12:02.202 --> 12:05.394 When it first came out, it was just the movies we're gonna speak of. 12:05.482 --> 12:08.590 And I'm quite a big fan of hostel, which you're gonna hear in a bit. 12:09.850 --> 12:13.522 And I didn't mind it because I found. I feel with hostel there's a 12:13.546 --> 12:17.412 slight bit of not class, but there's more higher production 12:17.476 --> 12:21.764 somehow to it. There's something about it where towards 12:21.852 --> 12:25.580 the middle and to the end of the whole sort of 12:25.660 --> 12:29.372 ten year span cycle, we get with these sub genres of films that 12:29.436 --> 12:32.756 it got like they 12:32.788 --> 12:36.044 do, people start cashing in, so production values go lower and lower and 12:36.052 --> 12:38.548 it became like some movies come out and you'd be like, well, I'm not really 12:38.604 --> 12:42.440 interested. And I'm not a massive torture porn fan, to be honest. 12:44.450 --> 12:48.026 It's. I'm massively into. But there 12:48.058 --> 12:51.650 are a couple of great ones that stick out, aren't there? Yeah, totally there 12:51.690 --> 12:55.378 is. Like. Yeah, like. Like you say you're gonna reel off 12:55.394 --> 12:58.138 a little list of some of the films, aren't you? Yeah, we'll do that in 12:58.154 --> 13:02.458 a minute. I think Asia do torture porn 13:02.514 --> 13:05.658 really well. Yeah, I think, you know, 13:05.714 --> 13:09.570 Japan and Korea, they've got some crazy, 13:09.610 --> 13:12.826 gory films. One of my favorites is audition, 13:12.898 --> 13:16.270 and I'd love us to. To do a review of that one day. 13:16.430 --> 13:20.118 Audition's a crazy film, and. Yeah, I think that they do 13:20.134 --> 13:23.774 it really well. I just think aside from a handful of 13:23.942 --> 13:27.374 western films, american, english, maybe european films, 13:27.462 --> 13:31.690 there aren't many great torture films. But the ones that are great are really great. 13:32.590 --> 13:35.558 Yeah. Yeah. So, 13:35.654 --> 13:38.870 yeah, we picked. We picked it just because it's torture porn, really, 13:38.910 --> 13:42.238 for Valentine's Day. Hang on. 13:42.254 --> 13:46.560 Why do we chose it? Because the word porn is in the. In the subgenre 13:47.940 --> 13:51.428 episode. I don't watch. Have you ever watched porn on Valentine's 13:51.564 --> 13:55.640 moves? Like, other half? No, not really. 13:55.980 --> 13:59.900 You wouldn't think. Should we get a courier movie in? What, you want 14:00.060 --> 14:03.200 to watch some porn? Netflix and chill? 14:06.260 --> 14:09.500 Probably not. Haven't they? No, my house. It's probably softcore, but. No, 14:09.540 --> 14:12.830 nothing. I don't know. No, I don't. I don't 14:12.870 --> 14:16.342 think Alice would want to watch porn with me, and I certainly don't think she'd 14:16.366 --> 14:19.638 want to watch torture porn with me. I think I described last 14:19.694 --> 14:23.262 episode, I described a scenario where I was 14:23.446 --> 14:27.250 more luck getting one of my testicles into my mouth than getting Alice to watch 14:27.710 --> 14:30.982 Saul or hostel with me. I'm not sure which one 14:31.006 --> 14:34.622 I'd want to see, but you trying to get a testicle in your mouth sounds 14:34.686 --> 14:38.206 appealing in a way to watch, but not really because 14:38.238 --> 14:43.874 it's your testicle. Do you know? I mean, it's got both 14:43.922 --> 14:46.710 sides to that viewing. Yeah, 14:47.770 --> 14:50.510 I wouldn't forget it. Torture porn. Yep. 14:50.890 --> 14:54.394 And shall I whiz through this 14:54.442 --> 14:58.218 list? Yeah. Can you do it with, like, is it. Where have you 14:58.234 --> 15:02.050 taken this list from? Is. I just 15:02.210 --> 15:05.756 thrown it. Okay. Is it in a particular order? 15:05.938 --> 15:09.872 Like, are they saying no one's the. Number one torch porn 15:09.896 --> 15:13.432 films that are actually worth watching is what they've said. Oh, well, okay, so we'll 15:13.456 --> 15:16.872 go from 13 to one then. Yeah. Well, that's the order they're in. 15:16.976 --> 15:20.920 Or then again, 13 is. Is our sort of spooky 15:20.960 --> 15:24.528 number we like, don't we? Do. Because it's the horror community. 15:24.664 --> 15:28.040 Gavin. It's not 13 then. It's six. Six. Six. 15:28.120 --> 15:31.752 Gavin. Oh, my God. See, that voice has come out again. It's just slightly 15:31.776 --> 15:35.166 different this time. Do that in a Bristol 15:35.198 --> 15:38.250 accent. All right, my babbar, 15:40.150 --> 15:43.750 how are you today? This is nowhere. 15:43.790 --> 15:47.190 Now. Stop. What's number 13? Right, so number 15:47.230 --> 15:51.318 13 on this list of torture porn films that are worth watching is the collector, 15:51.374 --> 15:54.350 which I have seen a long time ago. It's pretty good film, 15:54.390 --> 15:57.198 actually. Wasn't too bad. You've seen that? No. There's a part two, isn't it? 15:57.214 --> 16:00.286 But I have upstairs on VHS a movie called the Collector. But it's like. 16:00.398 --> 16:03.382 It's got pictures of butterflies on the front of it and it's from like the 16:03.406 --> 16:07.370 sixties, I think. It's a different film. That's probably a different film. 16:08.030 --> 16:11.910 Number twelve is a film that me and you have covered in our french episode 16:11.990 --> 16:15.526 inside. Really? Why is that? Torture porn? Just because 16:15.558 --> 16:19.094 it's got a lot of blood and guts and torture in it. See, this is 16:19.102 --> 16:22.422 the thing. The two movies we're covering tonight have people 16:22.606 --> 16:26.816 stuck in chairs, which is the idea of being tortured 16:26.958 --> 16:30.596 and porn because people enjoy watching it. And it's gash gallons 16:30.628 --> 16:33.708 and gallons of blood type thing. So I don't know. 16:33.764 --> 16:36.720 Inside. I don't. Okay, all right, continue. 16:37.380 --> 16:40.244 Frontiers. Okay, 16:40.292 --> 16:43.908 so this is a new. The french new wave scene of the mid two thousands. 16:43.964 --> 16:47.396 Okay. They got pretty gory for a while, France, didn't they? They did. I did. 16:47.428 --> 16:50.756 I had. Frontiers is all right. It's good film. Dimension extreme. 16:50.828 --> 16:54.210 Number ten on the list. Yep. The human centipede. 16:54.510 --> 16:58.038 Okay. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Okay, cool. It's gotta be a. It's definitely a 16:58.054 --> 17:01.610 really talked about one. And very briefly, I watched the third one the other day. 17:02.390 --> 17:06.358 An appalling film, but enjoyable. My sister said 17:06.414 --> 17:10.070 she thought it tried too hard to be offensive. It was definitely fucking 17:10.110 --> 17:12.870 offensive, but I quite enjoyed it. 17:12.910 --> 17:16.102 And you know what those three films say, what you will about them, 17:16.166 --> 17:19.414 they're gonna be films that are remembered for a very long time in horror 17:19.462 --> 17:22.921 and just cinema generally. I think part three's 17:22.945 --> 17:26.353 kind of been swept under the rug, 17:26.401 --> 17:29.905 so to speak. Really. It's kind of. There's bits of, you know, because you see 17:29.937 --> 17:33.065 stuff on social networking where things are quite popular, 17:33.097 --> 17:35.745 you see lots of it. But then all of a sudden that was there around 17:35.777 --> 17:38.089 for a little bit. Then it kind of went where, like they say the first 17:38.169 --> 17:41.065 one, bam, bam, bang. That was everywhere you went. 17:41.097 --> 17:44.545 It's just. Oh my God, this movie. And it's all medically correct, but yeah, 17:44.577 --> 17:47.041 no, it's an alright movie. I told you about that. My mother in law bought 17:47.065 --> 17:50.530 me the Blu ray for my birthday once. Yeah, I remember that. 17:50.910 --> 17:54.590 It's really weird. Thanks. Can I give you my dad's review? 17:54.750 --> 17:58.454 Yeah, your dad watched it? What? With you? I went 17:58.542 --> 18:00.566 every time I put I pot around there a couple of times a week, 18:00.598 --> 18:02.770 and I put around there and I said to my parents, 18:03.830 --> 18:07.198 hang. On, hang on, hang on, hang on. I've not met Dan's parents. I don't 18:07.214 --> 18:11.086 know why this is, but I've not met Dan's parents. But apparently. So it's 18:11.118 --> 18:14.502 a bit like tackleberry when he goes back to his family, 18:14.606 --> 18:17.768 his parents house, and they just like punch each other and 18:17.784 --> 18:21.736 shoot guns. But this is like a family of movie lovers. And you 18:21.768 --> 18:24.992 just, yeah, what happens generally? We just talk about 18:25.016 --> 18:28.136 what we've watched that week. You do quotes back and forwards, don't you? You probably 18:28.168 --> 18:30.984 don't even have normal language conversations. 18:31.072 --> 18:35.008 It's just we literally quote eighties. That's how we taught. We quote eighties films to 18:35.024 --> 18:38.392 each other. See, this sounds amazing. My dad at the dinner 18:38.416 --> 18:41.512 table, my dad will go, he'll say something. He'll go name the film. And I'll 18:41.536 --> 18:44.848 go, Beverly Hills cop two. And he'll be like, yeah. And we'll 18:44.864 --> 18:48.524 just carry on eating. And then he'll say a line from some other obscure, 18:48.632 --> 18:51.748 like Stallone movie. And my sister will say, yo, that one. 18:51.804 --> 18:55.036 And my brother will be like, yeah. And alice just sits there 18:55.068 --> 18:57.908 like, what the fuck is going on? Do you know? I've never met any of 18:57.924 --> 19:00.956 your family? Have you not met my sister or brother? 19:01.028 --> 19:04.764 No. Maybe you will one day, Gavin. Maybe you 19:04.812 --> 19:08.716 will. Okay, cool. And so 19:08.828 --> 19:11.332 what was going on? My dad said he watches the horror channel quite a lot 19:11.356 --> 19:14.340 and so does my mum. Occasionally. They, like, watch it, see what's going on. 19:14.460 --> 19:17.132 And he went, oh, me and your mum watched a terrible film the other day. 19:17.156 --> 19:19.646 I went, oh yeah? What was that? He went, well, it was supposed to be 19:19.678 --> 19:22.606 scary. It was called the human Centipede. Have you heard of it? I went, 19:22.718 --> 19:26.170 yeah, dad, I've heard of that. What did you think? And he was like, 19:26.470 --> 19:29.622 wow. I just, I just couldn't take 19:29.646 --> 19:32.606 my eyes away from the screen. It was so disgusting. 19:32.678 --> 19:36.318 But I wanted to see what was happening next and what was the point in 19:36.334 --> 19:39.478 it? What was the point? And then my mum chimes in with, well, they were 19:39.494 --> 19:42.718 just putting their bums in other people's mouths. And I 19:42.734 --> 19:46.654 just don't understand why that's a film. Can we have a 19:46.662 --> 19:50.638 new segment? Ask Dan's mum and dad. Well, I did want 19:50.654 --> 19:54.822 to get a recording of them, actually, because I thought on 19:54.846 --> 19:58.330 your phone. Just record a voice memo, please, and send it to me 19:58.830 --> 20:02.166 next time I. Watch the horror film. I will. Just. Just quickly go 20:02.198 --> 20:05.934 back to your mum. Midway point, bumps and mouths. What else did your mum say? 20:06.102 --> 20:09.670 That was it really. They were just appalled by it. Just absolutely appalled by it. 20:09.830 --> 20:13.720 Oh, okay. All right. Okay, next. Next up on the list. So number 20:13.760 --> 20:16.960 nine, funny games. Both versions are the number nine 20:17.000 --> 20:20.960 here. Not seen it. Okay. I don't really count it as a torture 20:21.000 --> 20:24.380 porn film, but it is torture. So I guess I can see what they're saying. 20:25.000 --> 20:28.464 Number eight, weird one here. They've got two films again. The heights of 20:28.472 --> 20:31.768 a thousand corpses and devil's rejects. Now, gav, you're a massive rob zombie van. 20:31.784 --> 20:35.180 What do you think? House of thousand corpses, one of my favorite horror films. 20:36.320 --> 20:40.292 It's quite torturous, isn't it? Guess it is. 20:40.436 --> 20:43.972 I wouldn't have put in torture porn. I think some. I don't know. 20:44.036 --> 20:47.628 I've always kind of put in slasher. I'm not really sure. 20:47.764 --> 20:51.276 It's a kind of a mixture of different films. Devil's rejects 20:51.308 --> 20:54.652 is the sequel with their family, Firefly family, 20:54.716 --> 20:57.836 which rob zombies asked the question, do people want to see a part three? 20:57.908 --> 21:01.324 Apparently recently, yeah. And the second one's a 21:01.332 --> 21:04.924 different type of movie. It's more of a road movie, if anything. 21:04.972 --> 21:08.950 And it's a little bit more. There's more maturity 21:09.030 --> 21:12.390 to the second one. There's a bit more drama, I think, to it, 21:12.470 --> 21:16.534 or more responsibility to be more of a different type of 21:16.582 --> 21:19.982 film or something. I can't really get it. I'm not sure. But as 21:20.006 --> 21:21.290 torture porn films. 21:23.230 --> 21:26.742 It'S hard, isn't it? Because where this. Where this genre suddenly starts bleeding into other 21:26.766 --> 21:30.142 genres is where it's just basically antagonizing someone to 21:30.166 --> 21:34.250 the point that they pretty much get killed. And is that tortures all the time. 21:35.030 --> 21:38.282 It's really hard one to say is it was genre. So many 21:38.306 --> 21:40.938 movies you could be like, well, it's a bit of a torture porn movie, 21:41.034 --> 21:44.338 you could say, I suppose, but I don't 21:44.354 --> 21:47.154 know. I don't know. I don't know. It's a hard one to pinpoint. I don't. 21:47.282 --> 21:50.898 Personally, if I pinpoint, I'd said stuff like hostile and saw where someone's actually 21:50.954 --> 21:54.346 tortured. That's. Do you know? That's kind of what I think 21:54.378 --> 21:57.954 of it. But today's movies, I wouldn't agree with that. But I like the films, 21:58.002 --> 22:01.426 so fuck it. What's next? What's number eight. Number seven on the list is hostel, 22:01.458 --> 22:05.378 which we'll be discussing tonight anyway. Yep. Six. Number six is saw, 22:05.434 --> 22:08.140 which we'll be discussing tonight anyway. Yeah. 22:09.640 --> 22:12.584 Number five is Antichrist, which I have not seen. 22:12.632 --> 22:16.192 Have you seen that? Yes, I have. And I got 22:16.216 --> 22:19.728 to know, I kind of forwards through it, really. I was. Wait. I was forging 22:19.744 --> 22:23.232 up to the extreme stuff because I was just. 22:23.296 --> 22:26.752 Because I just was interested to see what the hoo haws about. I wasn't 22:26.776 --> 22:30.464 really interested in the film, really. Just seeing it. William Day foe. Just having sex 22:30.512 --> 22:33.976 lots in the woods. It just. I'm not really interested. I don't want to see 22:34.008 --> 22:37.242 that genitalia mutate mutilation stuff. 22:37.266 --> 22:39.790 I was gonna say, apparently there's a really intense scene. 22:42.770 --> 22:43.790 I don't know. 22:46.130 --> 22:49.954 It's a film. Is that man or ladies genitals? 22:50.122 --> 22:53.658 And there's both, I think. I can't remember. 22:53.834 --> 22:57.510 It's a film. What's next? Next is a serbian film. 22:58.570 --> 23:02.420 I'm quite a fan. Yes. I've only 23:02.460 --> 23:06.068 watched it once and I don't think I could probably bother watching it again. 23:06.124 --> 23:09.468 It's really hard to stomach. I feel it's 23:09.484 --> 23:12.380 not a good film. You know, it definitely does what it's supposed to do. 23:12.420 --> 23:15.356 I say a fan. I say that I quite enjoyed it for the film. 23:15.388 --> 23:19.812 It was. I haven't seen it since I have a UK cup 23:19.876 --> 23:23.120 version. Because obviously it's cut. Don't know how much was cut. Probably quite a bit 23:23.660 --> 23:27.356 my sister in law gave me. But mother 23:27.388 --> 23:30.854 in law gives you human centipede. Sister in law gives you fucking 23:30.942 --> 23:34.798 serbian film. Brilliant. I know what's next. What's. What's your 23:34.814 --> 23:38.290 father in law gonna give you next? I don't know. 23:39.990 --> 23:42.850 A cheese grater and some lube. There you go, Gav. 23:45.190 --> 23:47.970 Hopefully you'll never listen to this show. Hopefully not. 23:49.310 --> 23:52.734 Yeah, I. Serbian film. 23:52.822 --> 23:56.214 It's an alright movie, I suppose. Torchport. I suppose you could kind of. I guess. 23:56.262 --> 23:59.854 Yes, to a certain degree you could do. I suppose there is some torturous 23:59.902 --> 24:03.478 elements going on, Peter. Woman tied to a bed and kind 24:03.494 --> 24:06.086 of raped as such, then head sort of lobbed off. 24:06.198 --> 24:09.534 Spoiler. So, yeah, I suppose, 24:09.662 --> 24:13.182 yeah. Okay, what's up next? Number three is bismois with 24:13.206 --> 24:15.690 a french movie. I've not seen it. No. 24:17.470 --> 24:20.290 Rape me. Is that what that translates to? 24:20.630 --> 24:24.108 I think it's. Yeah, I think it does something like that. Fuck me 24:24.124 --> 24:27.000 or rape me. I don't speak French. I do remember it being something like that. 24:27.380 --> 24:30.564 It's two women, basically. Instead of a guy and 24:30.572 --> 24:34.520 a girl. Like natural born killers. So yeah, it's an alright film. 24:34.980 --> 24:38.308 I quite enjoyed it. Obviously we haven't put this list together. I've just found a 24:38.324 --> 24:42.480 list to read out. Number two is audition, which I am a massive fan of. 24:44.180 --> 24:47.428 It's really, really hard to watch. I'd love us to cover it one day. 24:47.484 --> 24:50.786 I think I have Takishi Mike. I think I have cameo 24:50.818 --> 24:54.114 in hostel actually. Yeah, he's a great director and so a lot 24:54.122 --> 24:58.098 of his films are quite fucking crazy. Like visitor Q is pretty 24:58.154 --> 25:01.954 mental film as well. And number 25:02.002 --> 25:06.082 one on the list, which, and I am a fan of this film, is martyrs, 25:06.266 --> 25:08.870 another french film just been remade. 25:09.370 --> 25:13.850 Yeah, I did. Really? Why it's 25:13.890 --> 25:17.990 american production? Well, because it's foreign, it's subtitles and people 25:18.740 --> 25:22.680 don't like it. Apparently the, the whole, sort of the heart to it, the whole 25:23.300 --> 25:26.500 soul of it or such, isn't there. But this is just one reading. 25:26.540 --> 25:30.132 So, you know, you take it as a soul. I might give it 25:30.156 --> 25:34.372 a shout. Just. I will. I will give it a watch that. 25:34.396 --> 25:37.340 But yeah, I will check it out. But the original masters, 25:37.420 --> 25:40.540 torch boy. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah. 25:40.580 --> 25:43.876 Okay. But you know, 25:43.948 --> 25:47.442 you've got all these. We could keep going over and over 25:47.466 --> 25:52.226 and over and over. Different films. But yeah, 25:52.418 --> 25:54.910 it's a strict torture films, I'd say. 25:56.690 --> 25:59.402 I like to say it's just films where people have been tortured as well. 25:59.426 --> 26:02.682 But this film, this list and the genre itself does go off 26:02.706 --> 26:05.842 into other areas. Yeah, it's some wavy lines, 26:05.866 --> 26:08.970 isn't it? Into the other genres. Should we get into our 26:09.010 --> 26:11.830 first film? Yeah, let's do this. 26:26.180 --> 26:30.640 So this movie is called Saul. 26:31.940 --> 26:35.836 Now this came out in 2004. Now generally, quite often 26:35.868 --> 26:39.194 I have little stories for my film that I watched. Now I 26:39.202 --> 26:43.138 was in San Francisco again at another point in my life watching 26:43.154 --> 26:46.690 a film. And I went into. I took a drag, the girlfriend, into cinema to 26:46.730 --> 26:49.882 watch it and I watched it. Then when the lights came up, I turned 26:49.906 --> 26:53.590 around. There's about six or seven young kids have 26:54.330 --> 26:57.178 somehow got into the cinema, watched or, 26:57.314 --> 27:00.602 and the saw movie itself, first time you ever watch it 27:00.626 --> 27:03.990 and I saw it's quite a new thing. And the ending, 27:04.310 --> 27:07.870 it was, whoa, okay. And quite 27:07.910 --> 27:10.222 sort of a little bit shocking at the time, I think just a little bit. 27:10.246 --> 27:14.142 I wasn't sure where it's going. And I was really quite surprised 27:14.206 --> 27:17.410 with these kids in the movie. They all looked. 27:17.870 --> 27:21.238 They all looked, yeah, kind of wide 27:21.294 --> 27:24.862 eyed. Well, good. That'll teach them for sneaking into a horror movie. 27:24.886 --> 27:28.490 The little shit. Two strangers awaken in a room and they 27:29.030 --> 27:32.576 recollect recollection of how 27:32.608 --> 27:35.760 they got there or why and soon discover they are pawns in a 27:35.800 --> 27:39.368 deadly game perpetrated by a notorious serial killer. 27:39.424 --> 27:42.060 I always said penetrated by. 27:44.280 --> 27:47.648 It would be. It would be definitely say 27:47.744 --> 27:52.352 this movie has Danny Glover in it who 27:52.376 --> 27:55.902 was. It was filmed for like three days. All of, of his parts 27:55.926 --> 27:59.606 and stuff. Now this movie has 27:59.638 --> 28:02.526 a few things in it now basically you've got James Wan, 28:02.598 --> 28:06.262 who everybody knows of now, who's gone on to bigger things with the 28:06.286 --> 28:09.974 last fast and furious film. And he's 28:10.022 --> 28:13.270 pretty prolific now. I look at him now and think, 28:13.350 --> 28:16.590 man, you look like you're 15 years old. Then I think, 28:16.710 --> 28:19.582 Jesus, he must have looked like he is too when he made saw and stuff 28:19.606 --> 28:22.670 like that. But this was his debut as well, wasn't it? He's a. He's about, 28:22.750 --> 28:25.918 he's around. I think he's my age actually, which is quite. So. It's like, 28:25.934 --> 28:29.390 oh, okay. He's just a very youthful looking person. This was his 28:29.430 --> 28:33.270 debut film. He is australian. His co partner 28:33.310 --> 28:37.926 who went to film school with is Lee 28:38.078 --> 28:41.438 Wanna, who just had his directional debut with sinister. 28:41.614 --> 28:44.998 Free. No, no. Insidious. Free insidious 28:45.054 --> 28:48.518 three. Those guys are kind of good. Little horror collaboration at the 28:48.534 --> 28:52.442 moment. Well, he did that and obviously James went off to do fast 28:52.466 --> 28:56.266 and furious. But they've both come back I think, for possibly 28:56.418 --> 28:59.994 insidious. No, conjuring two. 29:00.162 --> 29:04.150 I think the haunted. The Enfield Poltergeist. 29:05.330 --> 29:08.762 Yeah. So these two from Australia, they went film school together and they both got 29:08.786 --> 29:12.850 along. They tried doing some bits and bobs. What ended up happening 29:12.890 --> 29:15.962 was that they wrote the script and got it to 29:15.986 --> 29:19.396 some people or an agent or something who shopped it around. People were 29:19.428 --> 29:22.356 into it and they said, well, we'll give you finance, but you need to prove 29:22.388 --> 29:26.340 like you can do stuff or whatever. And they made a ten minute short. 29:26.500 --> 29:30.172 Have you seen the short? I have not. Is it on YouTube? It is 29:30.196 --> 29:33.412 on YouTube, on the Blu ray. So I picked 29:33.436 --> 29:36.400 up a Blu ray copy of this movie for one pound 24, 29:37.340 --> 29:39.684 which had load of extras, but I didn't get a chance to watch them. 29:39.732 --> 29:43.452 So that's a bit unfortunate, but I know a few things about this movie. 29:43.596 --> 29:46.572 So they shopped it around, they got that, they wrote this, 29:46.636 --> 29:49.780 did the short film, they got the financing, went ahead, 29:49.820 --> 29:55.380 made this movie. And this movie was very, very, very lucrative 29:55.540 --> 29:59.572 for everyone involved, not just financially, but for 29:59.596 --> 30:03.268 like spawning the relationship between the writer and director 30:03.324 --> 30:06.956 to go on to make a lot more films. Which are, to be honest, 30:07.028 --> 30:10.244 he's become a, if he carries 30:10.292 --> 30:13.768 on the way he is, he would, you know, regard be regarded in 30:13.784 --> 30:17.472 about 20, James one on about and possibly both them. But James one more in 30:17.496 --> 30:20.960 about 20 years or so, he might be regarded as a master of horror almost. 30:21.080 --> 30:23.888 Yeah, he'll be up there with some of the big guys because I've got. 30:23.904 --> 30:26.900 To say he's got, you know, he's got a good, 30:27.480 --> 30:31.696 good way of directing films and he's got an old school classic 30:31.728 --> 30:35.152 way, but doing it in a new school way without being it cheesy or anything 30:35.256 --> 30:38.740 like, you know, the conjuring and insidious. There was really good 30:39.090 --> 30:42.586 old school flicks and stuff. So this was, this was good day. Just tapped into 30:42.618 --> 30:46.722 a new, new vein, so to speak, which was slightly missing. 30:46.826 --> 30:50.058 And yes, we try and do torture 30:50.114 --> 30:52.790 puns through the whole movie for the whole podcast. 30:53.770 --> 30:57.458 Yeah, we should try to make some really cutting jokes as much as we can. 30:57.554 --> 31:00.990 Really funny. Sharp, 31:01.770 --> 31:03.750 sharp. Oh, 31:04.740 --> 31:07.316 yeah. What do you, what do you think about this film? Have you got any 31:07.348 --> 31:11.080 stories about this movie? Not really. I remember it coming out. I remember, 31:11.580 --> 31:14.828 remember the picture of the soul and everyone was sort of 31:14.844 --> 31:17.920 like, you've got to see this movie, you know. And that was it. Like, 31:18.660 --> 31:21.924 it was a word of mouth thing. Definitely. Yeah, yeah, definitely. And everyone was 31:21.932 --> 31:25.620 like, wow. And for me it's got a connection. Much like fright Night 31:25.660 --> 31:29.284 and last episode, it's got a connection to Princess Bride because 31:29.332 --> 31:32.590 Carrie is the main guy from the princess pride. 31:32.930 --> 31:36.466 So it was great for me to go and see Carrie ulls doing something again 31:36.538 --> 31:40.390 because he hasn't, he doesn't do a lot. You know, he's not a huge actor. 31:41.050 --> 31:44.130 Quite a fan of Tobin Bell as well. Danny Glover 31:44.170 --> 31:46.074 was in it. Like I said, I forgot he was in it. And there's a 31:46.082 --> 31:49.390 few other people sort of spread throughout it, really. 31:50.250 --> 31:53.330 2004. That's kind of a good era really, for horror. 31:53.370 --> 31:57.168 There's a lot going on. This was new, it was different. This interesting 31:57.224 --> 32:00.392 story. Six more sequels and a 32:00.416 --> 32:03.776 franchise which went every year until panel, my activity took the 32:03.808 --> 32:09.072 Halloween spot. Yeah, it's the most franchise, 32:09.096 --> 32:12.504 isn't it? Which was found footage. So that took over the sub genre. 32:12.552 --> 32:14.872 There we go. So we must become the end of that. Must be a new 32:14.896 --> 32:18.608 one coming out soon. Which almost James Wan started, I think with in 32:18.624 --> 32:22.000 fact doing like the conjuring and insidious. Yeah. Like more 32:22.040 --> 32:25.472 traditional haunted house type. But it's not a 32:25.496 --> 32:29.000 new thing. So it's kind of like drifts and drabs. 32:29.040 --> 32:32.608 You know? Yes. Gone. Sorry. So is it. Am I right? I know the 32:32.624 --> 32:35.712 franchise is definitely the most successful money making horror 32:35.736 --> 32:39.168 franchise of all time but Saul itself, wasn't that because I achieve 32:39.184 --> 32:41.888 it was to mate, isn't it? One of the most. I know Blair Witch was 32:41.904 --> 32:45.392 the best because that was really cheap to make, 32:45.416 --> 32:48.024 wasn't it? And it made shitloads of money. But this is up there. And I 32:48.032 --> 32:51.816 know the Saul franchise is the biggest money making franchise ever. It's ridiculous. 32:51.888 --> 32:55.400 Yeah. Yeah. It's made like. I feel like the. 32:55.520 --> 32:58.940 The sequels kind of strayed away from this. 32:59.680 --> 33:03.048 There's this type of. Because this was a very. The way this is told is 33:03.104 --> 33:06.408 mainly through flashbacks and two guys in a room, you know, and other 33:06.584 --> 33:09.904 things that are happening around it whereas the other ones are just people. Lots of 33:09.912 --> 33:12.896 the building they need to get out by performing terrible things. 33:13.048 --> 33:16.416 It just turns into what I 33:16.448 --> 33:19.548 guess the audience were kind of craving for at the 33:19.564 --> 33:23.180 time. Yeah. You can imagine loads of 18 year old teenagers chanting 33:23.220 --> 33:26.668 for blood in a cinema by the time saw seven, eight and whatever the 33:26.684 --> 33:30.172 last ones were came out. Yeah. Come on. Whereas by 33:30.196 --> 33:33.356 then I'm just like, well, this isn't really that entertaining 33:33.388 --> 33:36.796 for me. I don't have many notes for this film. I got 33:36.828 --> 33:40.028 to admit, I got pretty fucking bored by this. 33:40.164 --> 33:43.764 Oh, really? I haven't seen it for ages and I was 33:43.772 --> 33:47.010 just watching it and thinking, oh, come on. And skip, 33:47.830 --> 33:50.838 I think it's because you. I know. The end now we're gonna spoil this film. 33:50.894 --> 33:53.886 Obviously. We do tend to spoil our movies, but just the whole bit. 33:53.918 --> 33:56.958 The end. When he stands up at the end. At the time, when I watched 33:56.974 --> 34:00.342 in cinema, I was like, oh, my God. It's a very. Both these films to 34:00.366 --> 34:03.342 talk about are very much murder mysteries as well. Yeah. 34:03.406 --> 34:06.622 And, yeah, that was quite shocking. 34:06.646 --> 34:09.830 But this time around, I had seen it since, but this time it was just. 34:09.870 --> 34:13.527 I could see. I don't know, maybe it's because aged a wee bit. 34:13.583 --> 34:16.815 And I just. I was bored by. I really was. 34:16.847 --> 34:19.599 I don't even have that many notes. I'm bored of it. So I probably won't 34:20.099 --> 34:23.223 even talk about this that much. Which is funny because it's very well known film 34:23.271 --> 34:26.927 and, you know, I'm not. Quite a fan of it, actually. I forgot how 34:26.983 --> 34:30.295 much I enjoyed it. I haven't seen it that much, probably. 34:30.327 --> 34:33.887 This is probably about my fourth or fifth time of watching it. And like I 34:33.903 --> 34:37.117 say, it felt like less of a horror film at times. 34:37.263 --> 34:40.762 It was more of a murder mystery. Like, you say it felt like I was 34:40.786 --> 34:43.950 watching seven at times. You know, I mean, 34:45.010 --> 34:48.186 the way that the bodies were found is 34:48.218 --> 34:51.562 well shot. That one bathroom 34:51.746 --> 34:55.522 sort of set is great. And it's just 34:55.546 --> 34:58.898 the backwards and forwards play between the two people locked in the bathroom. 34:58.994 --> 35:02.322 And it's like that british game show, 35:02.466 --> 35:05.598 the Crystal Maze, wherever the people used to be locked in a room and you 35:05.614 --> 35:07.982 had x amount of time to get out of the room to find out how 35:08.006 --> 35:10.862 to get out of the room. Would you like, saw better if Richard O'Brien was 35:10.886 --> 35:14.422 jigsaw. And he's there skipping. 35:14.446 --> 35:17.422 Around with his bald head doing little flute things. Or harmonica. No, 35:17.446 --> 35:21.170 playings. Little harmonica. I do really like 35:23.150 --> 35:26.798 the way that the jigsaw. Like the. The puppet, 35:26.894 --> 35:30.846 he's not called. That's Billy, isn't it? The puppet. Jigsaw is like the main baddie, 35:30.878 --> 35:33.958 like Tobin Bell, but I really like that. And I love the way that people 35:34.014 --> 35:37.238 wake up in the films. Not so much in this one. It only happens 35:37.254 --> 35:39.822 couple times, but in the later films, they sort of wake up. There's a tape 35:39.846 --> 35:42.694 and it's like, hello, I'm going to play a game with you. And then it 35:42.702 --> 35:46.118 kind of goes into. Like, Liam Neilson's narrative. You are. 35:46.134 --> 35:48.930 Sorry? Liam Neilson. Is he doing the tape? 35:50.510 --> 35:53.370 Hello, I'm Liam Neeson. You're trapped in a room. 35:54.550 --> 35:57.838 Right. So Richard O'Brien's in it. Liam Neilson. 35:57.934 --> 36:01.656 Neeson is doing the voice. Excellent. Oh, this is gonna be brilliant. We should remake 36:01.688 --> 36:05.208 this. Well, they're talking about doing, aren't they? They're rebooting. So soon they're talking about 36:05.224 --> 36:08.216 it. Should we go in first? We go in for a pitch meeting. 36:08.408 --> 36:10.888 Oh, God. I don't know. I just think it needs to be left alone for 36:10.904 --> 36:14.664 at least another ten years. Perfect. 36:14.832 --> 36:18.552 Yeah, he won't. Richard, we're gonna say. And then obviously, 36:18.576 --> 36:21.460 just out of nowhere, Richard, Brian's gonna start playing the harmonica. 36:23.480 --> 36:27.118 Shut that goddamn harmonica up. And I end 36:27.134 --> 36:30.930 up killing each other. Well, Danny Glover's in this, which is great. 36:31.870 --> 36:36.134 Be nice. Like an older version of Murata. 36:36.302 --> 36:39.958 That's when he rigs in it as well, don't we? You are need rigs in 36:39.974 --> 36:43.318 there as well. Well, we could chuck him in as well. Yeah. See? 36:43.374 --> 36:47.406 Weird. Let's not talk about them at Saw 2004. Let's talk about 36:47.478 --> 36:50.982 Gavin. Dan saw 2020. That come 36:51.006 --> 36:54.312 out. No, we should talk about Saul 2004. The reason we 36:54.336 --> 36:59.440 wanted to talk about this film is because it is one of the first torture 36:59.480 --> 37:02.728 porn films that. And it's one of the ones people remember 37:02.864 --> 37:06.232 that kind of. I say re kick started, if that's a 37:06.256 --> 37:09.296 word because there was already gore movies out there. 37:09.368 --> 37:12.432 But this is the one. One of the most mainstream ones. This and 37:12.496 --> 37:15.512 hostel, which we'll talk about later on. These are the two that people are. 37:15.536 --> 37:18.042 Oh, my God. Like you said, gabriel, with a word of mouth like he cuts 37:18.066 --> 37:22.138 his own leg off and everyone in the cinema even though he'd already been 37:22.154 --> 37:25.202 told by all your mates that it happened at the end when he picks up 37:25.226 --> 37:28.950 that saw, you're all like, oh, God, is he gonna do it? 37:29.250 --> 37:33.218 And it holds up well. I think the effects are good. Yeah. It's not a 37:33.234 --> 37:36.750 particularly scary film. I watch. A director's unrated cut. 37:37.330 --> 37:40.882 What's. What's extra in it? I think there's some more vomiting 37:40.946 --> 37:44.174 or something. Is there a bit. Some. Someone's vomiting or something? Oh, no, no, 37:44.302 --> 37:48.998 not vomiting. Someone's going through the pigs intestines, 37:49.054 --> 37:52.102 which is supposed to be human. Says he's looking for the key. Oh, yeah, 37:52.126 --> 37:53.770 that's gross. There's more of that. 37:55.590 --> 37:59.302 So for anyone that hasn't seen this, I mean, we've spoiled it. But basically the 37:59.326 --> 38:02.622 whole plot mainly is about two guys who wake up locked in a room. 38:02.686 --> 38:06.358 Check. One chained to either end of the room and there's a few 38:06.494 --> 38:10.014 clues and a dictaphone with a tape recording on it and a dead body in 38:10.022 --> 38:12.418 the middle of the room. And they have to figure out how to get out 38:12.434 --> 38:15.538 of the room. And they slowly figure, I think, these bits and bobs out 38:15.594 --> 38:19.970 all the while we get flashbacks and sort of side flashes of 38:20.010 --> 38:22.954 what's going on outside of the room of what happened to them and their lives 38:23.002 --> 38:26.442 before one of their wives has been held hostage. And it's 38:26.466 --> 38:29.906 this guy called jigsaw who goes on to be the baddie and a 38:30.018 --> 38:33.790 million other Saul films. And he's holding them hostage for fun. 38:34.410 --> 38:38.074 He's got cancer, hasn't he, if I remember right. Is that right? Yeah. 38:38.202 --> 38:41.570 Yeah. And so he's kind of just like, wants to. He's almost 38:41.610 --> 38:44.938 like he feels he's doing it like some 38:44.954 --> 38:48.362 kind of vigilante because everybody he kidnaps has done something 38:48.426 --> 38:51.482 bad like these. A bit fucking elaborate, though, isn't it? 38:51.666 --> 38:55.230 He's fucking G. He's a genius. Just get a gun. 38:55.770 --> 38:59.506 I really like the beer. I've got that. About that. It's nice revisiting 38:59.698 --> 39:02.322 the bit where they go to his sort of workshop where he works on all 39:02.346 --> 39:06.112 his. Because we were talking before once about the. How he'd love 39:06.136 --> 39:09.400 to see behind the scenes on, like, a Jason film where Jason's actually that stuck 39:09.440 --> 39:12.704 stacking up the bodies and propping them all up ready to fall out on people. 39:12.752 --> 39:16.752 And it was nice to actually see them go to Jigsaw's 39:16.776 --> 39:20.288 workshop where he actually invents all these fucking torture devices and horrible 39:20.344 --> 39:23.728 things. And actually he had a body in there, like, ready to go. Like, 39:23.744 --> 39:27.104 the guy was tied up. And it was great to see, 39:27.192 --> 39:30.432 actually, like, that side of a psycho killer 39:30.456 --> 39:33.550 in a movie. You don't get to see it that often. And he invents really 39:33.630 --> 39:36.330 shit looking puppets on little tricycles. 39:37.190 --> 39:40.726 Who on earth said, yeah, James, I'm glad you've been 39:40.758 --> 39:44.038 spending, like, at least four weeks in a workshop making this. Look at 39:44.054 --> 39:47.558 it. Look how fucking grey that is with little red rosy cheeks on it. 39:47.654 --> 39:51.438 Oh, it's on a cute little tricycle. Scary, that. But I think. 39:51.614 --> 39:54.670 But say what you will, it's now a little bit of pop culture, 39:54.710 --> 39:57.500 that little Billy puppet shit, you know? 39:58.800 --> 40:02.032 Do you not think? No shit. It looks fucking shit. 40:02.216 --> 40:05.568 No shit. I'm really surprised. I thought you'd be a fan of 40:05.584 --> 40:09.024 Saul. Yeah, it's got a gritty 40:09.072 --> 40:12.568 feel to it. Like seven. There is one scene 40:12.664 --> 40:15.744 which I find. I do. I find really scary. 40:15.872 --> 40:18.912 Look, I do like it, but I watched it this time around. 40:18.976 --> 40:22.232 I was, like, almost kind of under the feeling if it'd been like 40:22.256 --> 40:26.180 Hitchcock Cox rope. And it was literally. It was the movie set 40:26.220 --> 40:29.396 in that room and that was the movie. I think I'd kind of like that 40:29.428 --> 40:31.320 more. Do you know? I mean. 40:34.060 --> 40:37.244 The cops trying to get to them, I think just sitting there. But I 40:37.252 --> 40:40.484 know it'd be very hard to do. But I think it would have been really 40:40.612 --> 40:43.740 interesting. You know, I'd like to see a cut of that. 40:43.780 --> 40:47.188 I reckon you could cut that together. Yeah. Yeah. A fan cut. But it 40:47.204 --> 40:50.406 probably come out like 35, 40 minutes. Yeah, but it'd be 40:50.438 --> 40:53.726 really insane because you just wouldn't have any clue and you'd only know what they 40:53.758 --> 40:56.622 know, which is great. Yeah, I think that'd be a better movie. 40:56.726 --> 41:00.726 That would be interesting. I'd quite like to see that. Maybe that's what reboot 41:00.758 --> 41:04.422 a new, new saw movie. Yeah, maybe they'll do that. Just waking 41:04.446 --> 41:06.010 up in a saw. 41:07.390 --> 41:12.406 Find out what the fuck's going on. Saul. More saw. More seesaw 41:12.598 --> 41:15.874 whore. So I don't know. There is one 41:15.922 --> 41:20.082 scene I got quite. Have you seen the bank? Quite suspenseful. 41:20.146 --> 41:24.058 The tagline for us slasher movie whores with 41:24.114 --> 41:27.346 sores. Oh, what's the movie I quite fan of? Italian. 41:27.378 --> 41:30.670 Isn't that Hollywood? Hollywood Chainsaw hookers. Nana. Some. 41:31.090 --> 41:34.562 Oh, no. Torso. Have you seen torso? Oh, 41:34.586 --> 41:38.170 yeah. Oh, yeah. Nice. Halls with sores. 41:38.290 --> 41:41.834 That's the, um. Yeah, good one. Yeah. I want to 41:41.842 --> 41:44.970 talk about this scene. Yeah. Which I find 41:45.010 --> 41:48.282 quite suspenseful, done really, really well. And that's where the guy wakes 41:48.306 --> 41:51.474 up. The photographer guy wakes up in his apartment. Okay. 41:51.522 --> 41:55.242 Someone's in there. Yeah. And he's walking around, 41:55.306 --> 41:58.322 the lights have all broken and he's using a flash of a camera to try 41:58.346 --> 42:01.514 and. Yeah, yeah, that was quite good. Yeah. And the 42:01.522 --> 42:05.218 guy's wearing a pig's mask, isn't he? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that was okay. That wasn't 42:05.234 --> 42:09.014 too bad. And the bit where the little girl is in her bedroom 42:09.142 --> 42:11.910 and she says, mummy, there's a man in my room. She's like, no, there isn't. 42:11.950 --> 42:15.550 Go back to sleep. And she looks up at the cupboard and they just 42:15.590 --> 42:19.158 show this little, this eye looking at the cupboard and he says, hello, 42:19.214 --> 42:22.550 little girl. Fucking hell. I found that. 42:22.590 --> 42:26.014 I've completely forgot about that bed. It really made me jump. I love the 42:26.022 --> 42:29.382 fact I've forgotten about that bit now. Brilliant. I must have really been 42:29.406 --> 42:30.770 paying attention to that. 42:33.320 --> 42:36.632 So we. You haven't really got a lot to say about it, so then, 42:36.656 --> 42:39.872 have you? Hang on, let me, let me, let me. Let me 42:39.896 --> 42:43.088 go for it, shall we? Want to. Let's break it out 42:43.104 --> 42:46.576 a little bit then. Let's break it down. Gav, from the get go, 42:46.608 --> 42:49.304 I was appreciating the old Lionsgate logo, got to admit. 42:49.392 --> 42:52.260 Oh, I love the LGF logo. That was all right. 42:53.200 --> 42:56.904 Yeah, this film's quite a mystery film. It was actually inspired 42:56.952 --> 43:01.256 by the mad Max scene where the old Max, 43:01.448 --> 43:05.280 old Mel Gibson, um, handcuffs the dudes leg 43:05.320 --> 43:08.840 up to. Oh, is his arm to the car, which is broken down. 43:08.920 --> 43:12.380 That's right. And he says to him, you've got however long to 43:13.400 --> 43:16.820 cut your arm off, whatever. Yeah. Yeah. 43:17.520 --> 43:21.280 That's the inspiration for this, which is quite good. The short film they did 43:21.320 --> 43:24.474 was the scene where it's the woman with the 43:24.642 --> 43:28.106 reversed bear trap on her face. And again, that's quite 43:28.138 --> 43:31.218 a bit pop culture. And how is it that big sort of that 43:31.314 --> 43:34.034 picture image of her with that thing on her head? Well, that's quite a lot 43:34.042 --> 43:37.234 of the poster designs as well. Yeah, that scene is quite 43:37.282 --> 43:40.650 full on, I gotta say, actually, for that scene. But, yeah, these guys, 43:40.730 --> 43:43.866 these guys, they wake up, they don't know what's going on. There's a guy 43:43.898 --> 43:47.170 in the middle of the room, he's. He's got a gun 43:47.250 --> 43:51.062 and he's just. Looks like he's dead. 43:51.206 --> 43:54.342 He's blowing his brains out, basically. It looks like, isn't it? Yeah, pretty much. 43:54.406 --> 43:57.630 And they just. They realize that they're stuck there. There's these two 43:57.670 --> 44:01.358 guys, they start chatting away each other. They're handcuffed, they can't get away. 44:01.414 --> 44:04.838 They find tape cassettes on them saying, listen to me. 44:04.894 --> 44:07.798 And the dude in the middle of the room's got a gun and a tape 44:07.854 --> 44:11.422 cassette player in his hand. Other hand. So they managed to get hold of that. 44:11.446 --> 44:15.352 They listen to staff and they. They just don't 44:15.376 --> 44:18.900 know why they're there. And they're kind of stuck. They eventually find a mobile phone. 44:19.720 --> 44:22.888 See, there's a lot of good stuff going on here in this bathroom. I really 44:22.944 --> 44:26.856 did like that. And he finds the tort, the souls 44:26.888 --> 44:30.560 in the toilet, doesn't he? The tools in the toilet? Yeah. 44:30.640 --> 44:33.848 Yeah. But obviously put the first time he looks in the 44:33.864 --> 44:36.920 toilet, he puts his arm up the fucking shitty u bend, 44:36.960 --> 44:40.248 which is disgusting. Yeah, that was a tribute to 44:40.264 --> 44:43.520 trainspot. In that part, actually. Yeah. Well, it was. What else goes on? 44:44.620 --> 44:48.036 Well, one of them is a doctor and he says, oh, 44:48.108 --> 44:50.284 he wants us to cut because he tries. One of them because he tries to 44:50.292 --> 44:53.516 cut the chain, doesn't he? And the saw breaks and he says, these aren't made 44:53.548 --> 44:57.160 for cutting metal. This guy wants us to cut through our own feet. 44:57.460 --> 45:00.660 And then we start having the flashbacks and we find out that they've both got 45:00.700 --> 45:04.124 some stuff going on in the real world, which makes them a 45:04.132 --> 45:08.094 little bit dubious affairs. And one of them is a. One of 45:08.102 --> 45:11.558 them ends up, it turns out, is a. Like a private investigator 45:11.614 --> 45:15.062 who's photographing the other one to 45:15.086 --> 45:18.358 prove an affair. But it's lots and 45:18.374 --> 45:22.358 lots of dubious stuff going on. But then we get, like a weird 45:22.454 --> 45:25.590 other story that ties into all, 45:25.630 --> 45:29.374 which is where there's lots of other murders that 45:29.382 --> 45:33.134 are happening around this city that are. All the police come across 45:33.182 --> 45:36.602 these scenes where someone's basically. Basically been put in a situation where they have to 45:36.626 --> 45:40.282 try and escape, but they end up killing themselves or dying whilst they were 45:40.306 --> 45:43.550 escaping. For example, there's the guy that 45:44.770 --> 45:48.450 is placed in like, a maze of barbed wire, isn't there? Yeah. 45:48.530 --> 45:51.922 And he's got like an hour to get out of the room, otherwise the 45:51.946 --> 45:55.394 door will lock forever. And he tries his best to slice through all 45:55.402 --> 45:58.270 the barbed wire, but he just dies of bleeding. 45:59.410 --> 46:02.686 And they say there's a bit memorable with line where she says, 46:02.778 --> 46:06.542 some of the cuts were so deep, there was a stomach acid on some 46:06.566 --> 46:09.678 of the barbed wire. So the guy was like really trying to get out of 46:09.694 --> 46:12.878 that barbed wire cage, but he just couldn't do it. So this, 46:12.934 --> 46:16.470 this is the bit that reminds me of Saul, really, because someone's going around 46:16.550 --> 46:19.830 the city. You mean seven killing people? Sorry, yeah, 46:19.870 --> 46:23.126 seven. Not. So. You're right, you're right. Then you've got a detective following. 46:23.198 --> 46:27.046 It's quite nice tip having Danny Glover, because he's. He's played 46:27.078 --> 46:30.608 it before, funny enough. And Danny gloves watching the CCTV cameras later on. 46:30.624 --> 46:33.776 It reminded me of him in predator two, 46:33.968 --> 46:38.000 watching the footage of older Nick 46:38.040 --> 46:41.020 Nolte. Not Nick Nolte, the other guy. Gary Busey. 46:43.200 --> 46:46.020 Yeah, yeah. Carry on. 46:46.960 --> 46:50.544 So we get this whole. Then we get even a 46:50.552 --> 46:53.940 little bit of a backstory to Danny Glover, who's the detective. 46:54.250 --> 46:57.618 He ends up having had a. It does get 46:57.634 --> 47:00.834 a bit confusing with some of the timelines, doesn't it? At times you're like, 47:00.882 --> 47:04.070 what's. What bits happening now? What bits of flashback? 47:05.130 --> 47:09.178 There's a bit where Danny Glover gets his throat slit, where he almost arrests the 47:09.194 --> 47:12.522 badding and then it suddenly cuts to him with the scar on his 47:12.546 --> 47:16.242 throat. You're like, well, hang on a minute. I do think they're almost 47:16.306 --> 47:20.290 too clever for their own good with the plot. I think it's too convoluted. 47:20.330 --> 47:23.490 I think it's too much to carry on with. It really doesn't need it. 47:23.650 --> 47:27.274 Apparently they didn't have them feel like they had enough footage, so they struggled in 47:27.282 --> 47:31.474 the editing room. So they were using like re read other 47:31.522 --> 47:35.042 parts with just another. Making it through a CCTV camera and stuff like 47:35.066 --> 47:38.226 that. And it's still about an hour and 39 minutes moving is. I mean, 47:38.258 --> 47:41.178 you could have cut this down to like a 1 minute 25 or something, 47:41.234 --> 47:44.618 you know. Yeah. The stuff in it, I don't think you need all 47:44.634 --> 47:48.570 these little things going on. I must admit there 47:48.610 --> 47:52.312 is about a 20 minutes I would probably take out of this film 47:52.496 --> 47:55.920 towards not right at the end, but coming 47:55.960 --> 47:59.168 up to the last act. Yeah, I started getting really bored about an hour and 47:59.184 --> 48:03.272 22 minutes into it. You know, it's almost like about 48:03.336 --> 48:06.920 midway through, it feels like there's two films that have been stitched together. 48:07.040 --> 48:10.296 Yeah. Just. Just for a period. Just for about 20 minutes. 48:10.448 --> 48:14.472 And it's difficult to follow because then we start throwing in the 48:14.496 --> 48:16.926 guy. I know you don't watch a lot of, but the guy that plays Zepp, 48:16.958 --> 48:20.878 who was in lost so this guy, Zep, who, the hospital cleaner 48:21.054 --> 48:24.406 starts throwing him into it and he's. Then we find out he's 48:24.438 --> 48:28.366 in on it, but because. Only because Jigsaw framed 48:28.398 --> 48:32.238 up as well. Yeah, yeah. And all 48:32.254 --> 48:35.406 the while, doctor Lawrence, who is you carry yours. 48:35.438 --> 48:38.702 His. His wife and child have been kidnapped 48:38.726 --> 48:41.246 by Jigsaw or Jigsaw's cohort, 48:41.278 --> 48:45.460 Zeppenna. And they're being held and they're basically going to be assassinated. 48:45.800 --> 48:49.760 It's just there's quite a chilling bit where he throws his wallet 48:49.800 --> 48:52.432 to the other guy and he says, oh, have a look at my wife and 48:52.456 --> 48:55.976 kids. Lovely picture of them in there. And the guy 48:56.008 --> 48:59.424 goes through it and the picture's not in there. There's a different picture 48:59.472 --> 49:03.056 of them gagged and tied to the bed. 49:03.248 --> 49:06.184 And you sort of think, oh, my God. But he doesn't tell him, does he? 49:06.232 --> 49:09.216 Just. No, he hides the picture. You see the picture. I've always found this, 49:09.248 --> 49:12.496 um, I've noticed recently if past couple 49:12.528 --> 49:16.576 years, for research and make. Trying to write films, make films chilling, really chilling 49:16.608 --> 49:19.720 parts where you can really get an audience member a little bit more on the 49:20.220 --> 49:23.560 edge of their seats is when there's been invasion and it's not really known 49:23.600 --> 49:26.616 as exactly what you're saying, then the guy doesn't know that someone's gone 49:26.648 --> 49:29.904 through his wallet and done that. And so it's a 49:29.912 --> 49:33.376 good play on that sort of invasion fear type 49:33.408 --> 49:37.186 thing. Yeah, go on, carry on. Um, one thing 49:37.218 --> 49:40.626 I'm gonna say about this film that really stood out to 49:40.658 --> 49:44.066 me is, and you may not agree with me, we don't. 49:44.098 --> 49:47.354 Some always agree. I thought the acting was 49:47.442 --> 49:49.590 fucking brilliant in this film, 49:50.250 --> 49:53.746 particularly from Carrie. Yours, when he's at the end, 49:53.818 --> 49:56.970 when he's really distressed and he's crying and he's saying, 49:57.010 --> 50:00.154 my family need me. My family need me. And he's on 50:00.162 --> 50:03.608 the phone and he screamed down the phone to the 50:03.624 --> 50:07.352 guy who said he's gonna kill his children. I just. It's just, 50:07.536 --> 50:10.816 he sold me. I just. I was there with him that whole time. 50:10.968 --> 50:14.340 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I agree. 50:15.320 --> 50:18.984 Yeah. It's quite good performances. Even Lee, 50:19.032 --> 50:22.792 the writer, I think even he did actually reasonably 50:22.856 --> 50:25.260 okay acting for it as well. 50:26.370 --> 50:29.746 Yeah, no, I thought it's quite good. Yeah, yeah. I think he was quite 50:29.778 --> 50:33.050 in distress towards the end. When he starts to go, eventually goes, 50:33.130 --> 50:36.602 I'm gonna cut through my leg. Starts cutting through his leg. It was. Yeah, 50:36.626 --> 50:40.082 you could. Jesus. It was quite full on that he's getting white and whiter because 50:40.106 --> 50:43.418 the blood's gonna then he goes to go, he's gonna shoot the guy, doesn't he? 50:43.474 --> 50:46.626 He says, sorry, I shoot you. He doesn't know if his family's 50:46.658 --> 50:50.070 all right because he's heard them on the phone, shots fired. 50:52.660 --> 50:55.916 But then the guy comes in the room. Adam's still alive. 50:56.068 --> 50:59.572 It's kind of. Again, it does get a little convoluted. Like you say, 50:59.596 --> 51:02.556 there's too much going on, almost. Yeah. And he goes back to help him after 51:02.588 --> 51:06.236 his legs cut off. Actually, I can help you because they fight this other dude, 51:06.308 --> 51:09.172 and he drops a gun and they've got a gun there, and he goes, 51:09.196 --> 51:12.036 I'm going to have to leave you. Just leaves you. I need to leave you. 51:12.188 --> 51:15.372 Why didn't you get the gun and shoot the chain? That's what I was 51:15.396 --> 51:18.702 thinking. Like, get him out of the room together. He can help you. You can 51:18.726 --> 51:21.490 help him get out the room. Yeah. 51:22.070 --> 51:25.630 Um, and he just goes out the room and he leaves him. So big 51:25.710 --> 51:28.694 twist is the person in the middle of room is not dead. 51:28.782 --> 51:32.982 He is actually alive. He is Mister Jigsaw, 51:33.126 --> 51:35.570 aka shit puppet maker. 51:37.110 --> 51:40.210 Shit puppet maker returns this summer. 51:40.670 --> 51:43.806 Yeah, he, um, he gets up, pulls off, like the, 51:43.878 --> 51:47.518 the prosthetic mask he's got on. The first time you see that, 51:47.614 --> 51:51.750 you're like, fucking hell. What is going on? I remember just thinking, what is 51:51.790 --> 51:55.262 happening? Yeah, it was good. It was, it was 51:55.286 --> 51:59.022 like, oh, wow. It's a lovely little twist. And then he starts putting 51:59.046 --> 52:02.622 a bit off his face, like, what's going on? Which is brilliant. He just 52:02.646 --> 52:06.038 hobbles out the room, shuts the door and that's it really. And that's what you 52:06.054 --> 52:09.198 want tomorrow, isn't it? Pretty fucking bleak ending, 52:09.294 --> 52:12.312 really. Just leaves. That guy there says that tough, like, just leaves him. 52:12.336 --> 52:15.940 And he does say to him, the key to the, to your chain 52:16.520 --> 52:19.328 was in the bathtub with you. But obviously the first thing right at the beginning 52:19.344 --> 52:22.384 of the film, he wakes up and he pulls the plug out the bath and 52:22.512 --> 52:26.016 the key goes down the drain. So he's been fucked since the opening 52:26.048 --> 52:29.300 scene, basically. Yeah. Yeah, totally. Yeah. 52:29.720 --> 52:33.136 One thing I didn't like a bit too cartoony for me was the fact that 52:33.168 --> 52:36.952 their chains were attached to some way that 52:36.976 --> 52:40.466 they could be a electrocuted. So whenever they sort of tried 52:40.498 --> 52:44.018 to do anything jigsaw, like, pressed the button and they got electrocuted, I thought that 52:44.034 --> 52:47.670 was a bit cartoony business. Yeah, 52:48.050 --> 52:51.634 it's an easy get out of free jail card. It was almost like they 52:51.642 --> 52:54.602 were like, shit. But what about how they gonna. They could do this. And then 52:54.626 --> 52:57.586 someone in the room went, what about if you. Let's cute some. They went, 52:57.618 --> 53:00.962 yeah, pretty. We'll put that in the script. Yeah. A bit too much. 53:01.066 --> 53:04.122 So that's what if they can go do this reboot or something like that, 53:04.146 --> 53:07.420 then, yeah, let's strip it back. Take it back to the real hardcore 53:07.460 --> 53:11.324 mystery element of it. That's brilliant. You know, some shock tactics, but they won't because 53:11.492 --> 53:14.452 it's torture porn. They're gonna try and do something risque, 53:14.516 --> 53:17.760 presumably, and it's dunno. 53:18.460 --> 53:21.428 So I think the most graphic scene in the film, 53:21.524 --> 53:24.764 apart from the leg cutting scene, is probably where she wakes up with 53:24.772 --> 53:28.620 a reverse bear trap and then finds out that the key to getting out, 53:28.780 --> 53:31.420 get the bear trap off her head, is in the stomach of the dead man 53:31.460 --> 53:35.562 in the room. She then figures out he's not dead as she's 53:35.586 --> 53:38.178 cutting into him and she has to get the key out of his innards. 53:38.274 --> 53:41.698 It's pretty gruesome. And she's obviously in a mental asylum because. Well, 53:41.794 --> 53:44.818 in a hospital, because that's a pretty terrible thing to have to do to get 53:44.834 --> 53:48.906 out of her room. Other than that, wasn't that gory, 53:48.978 --> 53:52.522 really? No. People remember 53:52.586 --> 53:55.666 seven. I keep comparing it to seven, but people remember seven has been very gory. 53:55.698 --> 53:58.440 But actually, if you watch it, it's more what's in applies. 53:59.900 --> 54:02.360 It's the psycho principle. It's psychological. 54:03.180 --> 54:06.572 Between the sound effects and the performances. And everyone know what's 54:06.596 --> 54:09.972 going on. The camera can slightly move away, but you know what's 54:09.996 --> 54:13.228 going on. So that's why it's a bit worse. It's almost worse because your imagination 54:13.324 --> 54:16.612 is. It's thinking what's going on. That's exactly. 54:16.716 --> 54:20.132 Exactly. You know, it sounds to 54:20.156 --> 54:23.040 me like I'm more of a fan than you of saw. 54:23.440 --> 54:27.540 Give it a thumbs up. But it's a. It's Jeremy Beadle's left hand thumbs up. 54:28.080 --> 54:30.020 It's not a massive one. 54:31.400 --> 54:33.848 I'm gonna give it a thumbs up. I think it's a great film. It holds 54:33.864 --> 54:36.860 up well. It's worth revisiting if you haven't seen it for a while. 54:38.040 --> 54:39.820 What do you think about the sequels? 54:42.520 --> 54:45.800 I saw a part two with Mark Wahlberg. No, 54:45.840 --> 54:49.674 Donnie Wahlberg as the cop I thought was a kind of. 54:49.832 --> 54:52.534 But I don't know where this is going off. Or just in a part two. 54:52.582 --> 54:55.334 And that was gonna be end of it. No. Then a part three came out 54:55.342 --> 54:57.422 and I watched a bit of it, but I turned it off halfway through. 54:57.446 --> 55:00.570 It made me feel sick. There's some pig, pig, 55:01.390 --> 55:04.558 ground up pigs. They're swimming in or something like pig. 55:04.694 --> 55:07.382 And it made me feel, literally, it kind of made me feel sick. And it's 55:07.406 --> 55:10.678 like, it's not, it's not what I want out of horror film. It's not 55:10.694 --> 55:13.902 what I'm a fan of. Horror films where the films 55:13.926 --> 55:16.534 did get like that. There's a one scene in one of the later films which 55:16.582 --> 55:20.126 I've got a real phobia of needles. And there's a scene where an ex 55:20.158 --> 55:24.214 junkie has to dive into a pit full of used syringes. 55:24.382 --> 55:27.718 And that scene, I couldn't even watch that scene, which, 55:27.854 --> 55:30.638 great, it's great that there's a horror film out there that I cannot watch a 55:30.654 --> 55:34.038 scene in, but I couldn't watch that. It was too much for me. And they're 55:34.054 --> 55:36.850 all sticking in her arm. I've watched all of them. 55:38.110 --> 55:41.926 When I took some time off work a few years ago, I sat 55:41.958 --> 55:45.054 there over about two weeks and watched all of these films back to back. 55:45.102 --> 55:47.570 What are they like? Well, 55:48.190 --> 55:51.566 obviously what one's probably the best one. I would say two and three are worth 55:51.598 --> 55:55.438 a watch, definitely. But 45678 and 55:55.454 --> 55:57.902 I believe nine is the last one. They, 55:58.086 --> 56:01.654 they're so ridiculously tied into each other 56:01.742 --> 56:04.750 and they start tying back to the first one and then you realize Danny Glover 56:04.790 --> 56:08.570 wasn't Danny Glover, he was Mark Wahlberg and Mark Wahlberg was Donny Wahlberg. But then 56:08.870 --> 56:12.102 it's just they find out the skeleton of the guy 56:12.126 --> 56:14.558 who cut his leg off on in one of the later ones. But then they 56:14.574 --> 56:18.542 find Danny Glover and then, and it all tries to be too like flashbacky 56:18.566 --> 56:21.894 flash forward all tied. In and, well, that's because 56:21.982 --> 56:25.170 that's not the end game. The story when they first wrote it, 56:25.510 --> 56:28.958 that probably wasn't the idea. That's like this, you says nine. 56:29.134 --> 56:32.766 So it turns out Jigsaw wasn't even Jigsaw. It turns out 56:32.798 --> 56:36.104 in about the, like the fourth or fifth one, he's been dead for years. 56:36.152 --> 56:38.832 It turns out he died not long after the first or second one. And it's 56:38.856 --> 56:42.656 actually his daughter doing all these murders. 56:42.808 --> 56:46.816 It's really weird. It gets really weird. Does Danny Glover come back? 56:47.008 --> 56:51.080 I think he might be in at least one of the sequels briefly 56:51.120 --> 56:54.184 for flashbacks again. Like they obviously gave him enough money to just turn up 56:54.192 --> 56:57.784 and just do a day's shooting. Just weird. 56:57.872 --> 57:00.856 I definitely say if you're going to watch any of them do the top three, 57:00.928 --> 57:03.736 one, two and three, I wouldn't bother with any of the others, unless you are 57:03.808 --> 57:07.192 like me, a bit of an OCD nutter. But number one is definitely 57:07.216 --> 57:10.688 the best one. And it's definitely. It definitely kicked off because it came out 57:10.704 --> 57:14.392 the year before hostel and I think off the back of this and then hostel 57:14.456 --> 57:17.824 people were then excited about horror again, but for different 57:17.872 --> 57:21.544 reasons. Not so much for scares, for the most extreme things you 57:21.552 --> 57:24.912 can see really much like the sort of the eighties and 57:24.936 --> 57:29.002 late when you call the gore splatter fests, you know, the VHS 57:29.106 --> 57:32.282 people out at school. I'm not gonna. I'm not 57:32.306 --> 57:35.630 gonna watch my copy. I'm probably not gonna watch the film again, I think, 57:36.330 --> 57:38.590 in my existence on this planet. 57:39.250 --> 57:42.042 So you can. You can have my Blu ray copy. You don't have a Blu 57:42.066 --> 57:46.230 ray player, but that could kickstart you getting a Blu ray player. Okay, thank you. 57:46.530 --> 57:50.266 Happy birthday. Well, James one, I'm really sorry 57:50.378 --> 57:53.546 that Gav didn't appreciate so as much as me, but well done on the Fast 57:53.578 --> 57:56.706 and the Furious movies and the other horror movies. Well, I'm sorry you didn't get 57:56.738 --> 58:00.204 to direct the new He man movie, which you did decide you were 58:00.212 --> 58:03.724 gonna just direct for about a week and now it's gone to fucking 58:03.812 --> 58:06.120 McG. So. 58:08.780 --> 58:12.332 Is he crazy Christian mcG? Is it like a McDonald's? 58:12.476 --> 58:15.692 His real name is like Jeff McGuigan or 58:15.716 --> 58:18.972 something. Oh, his nicknames. McG, is it? 58:18.996 --> 58:22.452 Cuz I'm. There's that bit with Christian bound that rant once. Wasn't they recorded 58:22.476 --> 58:26.270 on. Get this 58:26.310 --> 58:28.490 fucking idiot off the set, McGee, 58:31.590 --> 58:34.542 why are you getting so angry over a movie which is probably gonna be shit 58:34.566 --> 58:38.302 with some directors and names? Sounds like McDonald's best 58:38.366 --> 58:41.310 burger of the. Month, by the way. Gav, 58:41.350 --> 58:44.570 just very quickly we've had another comment. 58:45.950 --> 58:49.614 We started with doing like some live television 58:49.702 --> 58:53.650 telephone show or something. Oh, sorry, just one moment. 58:54.270 --> 58:57.326 Danny Glover is just had. Danny Glover is live on the 58:57.358 --> 59:00.710 scene right now. I'm joking. It's not Danny Glover. 59:00.750 --> 59:04.774 It's actually our friend Mark Williams. I thought you can actually 59:04.822 --> 59:08.174 send me over to, um, Danny Glover. And I 59:08.182 --> 59:11.570 was gonna start Danny Glover 59:12.230 --> 59:13.810 do a Danny Glover impression. 59:17.170 --> 59:18.750 What's all that, riggs? 59:20.610 --> 59:24.202 No conduct. But yeah, shout out to Mark. Mark says, 59:24.266 --> 59:28.346 give me. He says me, y'all. So, y'all, that's a shout out, 59:28.498 --> 59:31.658 yo. All right, well, let's just get 59:31.714 --> 59:35.722 out of here, man. We've seen, so have 59:35.746 --> 59:39.274 a way. No, we watched. See. So we see sword. 59:39.402 --> 59:42.790 We saw. So we saw. So we saw. So that. 59:43.310 --> 59:47.310 So, so. Okay, well, I think there's some little girls 59:47.350 --> 59:50.370 who want to do a little song now. 59:50.710 --> 59:53.710 Oh, a little song. They're gonna do a little chat and then get a little 59:53.750 --> 59:57.290 song. They want to talk about Mister David Bowie's labyrinth. 59:57.670 --> 01:00:00.998 Oh, Henson. Ask Jasmine. 01:00:01.054 --> 01:00:04.490 Jasmine, Daisy, are you there? 01:00:05.110 --> 01:00:07.010 You sound like Kenneth Williams. 01:00:08.830 --> 01:00:12.690 Hello and welcome. Welcome to Jasmine's segment, ask jazz. 01:00:12.770 --> 01:00:14.990 And we're included with Daisy. 01:00:17.090 --> 01:00:20.834 We're talking about labyrinth with David Bowie, 01:00:21.002 --> 01:00:22.430 who died last year. 01:00:24.530 --> 01:00:29.390 Okay, tell me about the movie, girls. It was little. 01:00:29.810 --> 01:00:33.186 I really like these little red things that can take out 01:00:33.218 --> 01:00:36.360 their eyeballs and take off their head and things. 01:00:36.450 --> 01:00:38.520 That's quite scary, Daisy. I like, 01:00:39.660 --> 01:00:43.116 there is like these goblin things. 01:00:43.268 --> 01:00:44.800 Yeah, the goblin king. 01:00:48.420 --> 01:00:52.204 The goblin king has got white hair. White hair. 01:00:52.292 --> 01:00:55.820 No, he's got, like, this brownie gray, whitish hair. 01:00:55.900 --> 01:01:00.080 Okay. And I like 01:01:00.460 --> 01:01:03.762 Sarah because she saves her baby brother. 01:01:03.876 --> 01:01:07.318 Oh, that's nice. You have no 01:01:07.414 --> 01:01:10.518 power on me. You marry me, 01:01:10.534 --> 01:01:14.030 the brave. What, babe? Baby? The power. What power? 01:01:14.110 --> 01:01:17.862 The power of the mood. Who do you do? 01:01:18.046 --> 01:01:21.662 Do I marry the babe? I saw my 01:01:21.726 --> 01:01:25.054 baby crying hard as 01:01:25.142 --> 01:01:28.970 baby cry. What can I do? 01:01:29.590 --> 01:01:33.142 My baby's love have gone left 01:01:33.246 --> 01:01:37.610 my baby blue. Nobody knew. 01:01:38.470 --> 01:01:41.334 Okay, cool. Can imagine. Spell, 01:01:41.382 --> 01:01:45.558 tree slime and snails. Or puppy 01:01:45.614 --> 01:01:48.966 dog tails, thunder and lightning. 01:01:49.038 --> 01:01:51.318 Then baby said, gaga. Gah. 01:01:51.414 --> 01:01:56.168 Dismisses magic. 01:01:56.304 --> 01:01:59.260 Okay, thanks so much, guys. Bye. 01:02:00.280 --> 01:02:03.456 This is about elaborate. Bye bye. 01:02:03.528 --> 01:02:07.096 Bye. Hey, 01:02:07.128 --> 01:02:10.780 buddy, get your own fucking room. I paid for this. 01:02:18.720 --> 01:02:22.640 Well, thank you very much for that. Jasmine and Daisy, a very insightful look 01:02:22.680 --> 01:02:25.660 at the late, great David Bowie's labyrinth. 01:02:26.760 --> 01:02:30.816 Jim Henson. Fantastic movie. So back 01:02:30.848 --> 01:02:33.824 to torture porn. Back to sexy, 01:02:33.872 --> 01:02:37.472 sexy torture porn. And happy Valentine's day to 01:02:37.496 --> 01:02:40.260 all you lovers out there. Are you sexy people? 01:02:41.320 --> 01:02:45.344 Horror lovers? So this is hostel. 01:02:45.392 --> 01:02:47.620 Eli Roth. This is his second film, 01:02:48.400 --> 01:02:52.280 2005. I saw this in the cinema with Johnny, 01:02:52.360 --> 01:02:56.288 the guy that I spoke of last time, my good friend who 01:02:56.344 --> 01:02:59.576 doesn't know who Christopher Lee was. I told him 01:02:59.608 --> 01:03:02.312 that he's now been mentioned on the show, and he said, oh, great. So I'm 01:03:02.336 --> 01:03:05.776 like Cole Pilkington now, am I? Dickhead? 01:03:05.928 --> 01:03:09.112 Then he called me a dickhead. Oh, 01:03:09.136 --> 01:03:11.824 should we get him on the show like Carl Pilkington? I thought, well, I'll tell 01:03:11.832 --> 01:03:14.152 you what, though. I can fucking give him a little quiz at work. And he'd 01:03:14.176 --> 01:03:17.060 get really annoyed, though. Start getting pissed off. Fuck off. 01:03:17.600 --> 01:03:21.216 That might be quite amusing, though. We should write a quiz of, 01:03:21.248 --> 01:03:24.624 like, not hard, but harder questions about 01:03:24.672 --> 01:03:27.872 film and horror and just see what his answers are recording. Yeah. 01:03:27.936 --> 01:03:31.488 Yeah, that'd be great. So hustle 2005. Yep. 01:03:31.664 --> 01:03:35.224 Three backpackers head to a slovak city 01:03:35.392 --> 01:03:39.626 that promises to meet their hedonistic expectations with 01:03:39.658 --> 01:03:43.310 no idea of the hell that awaits them. 01:03:44.450 --> 01:03:47.310 I a big fan of this film. 01:03:47.970 --> 01:03:52.162 It's right up my street is in the whole people. 01:03:52.226 --> 01:03:55.810 It's very, the whole is very eighties ethics filmmaking 01:03:55.890 --> 01:03:59.546 with the group of characters going somewhere and something happening 01:03:59.578 --> 01:04:01.950 to them. It's not news. 01:04:02.890 --> 01:04:05.756 It's been done many times and will be done many times again. 01:04:05.938 --> 01:04:09.456 The film itself, though, has a little bit more class to it, 01:04:09.488 --> 01:04:13.272 I feel. And elo roughs a debate amongst 01:04:13.296 --> 01:04:16.568 itself. We actually did discuss it once and I actually 01:04:16.624 --> 01:04:20.304 cut it out of the show. I don't edit very often, but I cut it 01:04:20.312 --> 01:04:23.480 out because I thought it's almost like, it's almost like a controversial thing, 01:04:23.520 --> 01:04:26.696 saying the words Elo Roth. It really splits horror fans, which is funny 01:04:26.728 --> 01:04:30.656 because he himself is a massive horror fan and always wants to kick 01:04:30.688 --> 01:04:34.750 it with his films. Especially like the whole new seventies 01:04:34.910 --> 01:04:38.302 cannibal film that he's just brought out, the green Inferno, 01:04:38.366 --> 01:04:41.806 not lost in it yet, but you know, he really does do these things. 01:04:41.838 --> 01:04:45.174 And cabin fever was kind of. I took 01:04:45.222 --> 01:04:48.854 stuff from that for Shadow of death because Shadow of Death for me was 01:04:48.942 --> 01:04:52.318 my thank you to 80 slasher films where I 01:04:52.334 --> 01:04:55.230 feel like Cabin Fever was for him was the same sort of thing. And this 01:04:55.270 --> 01:04:59.512 movie itself is kind of has an almost 01:04:59.576 --> 01:05:03.216 seventies italian film side to it or something. Do you know what I'm saying? 01:05:03.288 --> 01:05:07.104 It's a real, it's a different filter, not, you can't pinpoint. And I 01:05:07.112 --> 01:05:10.992 think it's a class above, way above saw. 01:05:11.176 --> 01:05:15.456 But the budget would be a lot bigger because Eli Roth himself was David 01:05:15.488 --> 01:05:19.008 Lynch's protege and had a 01:05:19.024 --> 01:05:23.088 little bit of merit with him and got in there with Quentin Tarantino. 01:05:23.144 --> 01:05:26.752 So he went on to produce this film. He pitched it to him while 01:05:26.856 --> 01:05:28.800 hanging around in his swimming pool. 01:05:29.780 --> 01:05:33.444 And Tarantino said, yeah, you should do it. And they talked about it a 01:05:33.452 --> 01:05:36.812 bit more back and forwards. And he come on as 01:05:36.836 --> 01:05:40.172 a producer, he's on the commentary. And for the second one, because he 01:05:40.196 --> 01:05:43.980 produced the second one, I've not seen it. There is a part three directed 01:05:44.060 --> 01:05:48.100 by the dude Scott 01:05:48.180 --> 01:05:51.308 Spiegel, who was involved evil Dead films back in the day 01:05:51.324 --> 01:05:54.622 as a producer of sorts and maybe co writer of Evil Dead two. 01:05:54.766 --> 01:05:58.166 Anyway. Yes, he made part three. Not very 01:05:58.198 --> 01:06:01.290 good movie. You've seen part three? Yeah. Part two, 01:06:01.790 --> 01:06:05.614 yeah, I didn't, I didn't like part two and then I rewatched it again about 01:06:05.702 --> 01:06:09.494 six months ago and thought it's alright. Actually, yeah, it's alright. It's literally 01:06:09.542 --> 01:06:12.574 the same movie. It's girls. And there's a little bit of 01:06:12.582 --> 01:06:15.662 a different Twitter story. The original though, I really like it. 01:06:15.686 --> 01:06:18.118 Now what I like about you though, Roth, I watched a movie the other night 01:06:18.134 --> 01:06:22.054 with Daniel Day Lewis called there will be blood. Really enjoyed 01:06:22.102 --> 01:06:25.510 the film. The way Daniel Day Lewis is acting in his 01:06:25.550 --> 01:06:28.822 characteristics is really. You can just keep a camera on his face and 01:06:28.846 --> 01:06:31.998 you can read his. Read the story without him saying a word. 01:06:32.174 --> 01:06:35.366 Is that the film where Daniel D. Lewis says, I drink your milkshake? Yeah, 01:06:35.398 --> 01:06:38.766 I drink it all up. I drink the milk, yeah. Oh yeah. 01:06:38.798 --> 01:06:41.330 Milkshake. Yeah, he does actually. Fucking great. 01:06:42.390 --> 01:06:46.172 But I watched with watching this as well around the same time. 01:06:46.286 --> 01:06:50.088 There's. You can see where Eli Roth as a director gets 01:06:50.144 --> 01:06:53.800 really good performances out of people. Everyone in this, 01:06:53.960 --> 01:06:57.460 you really get into this movie. There's loads of tits all over the place. 01:06:57.760 --> 01:07:00.912 There's people being hacked up 01:07:00.936 --> 01:07:04.416 left, right and center in a really imaginative way which you don't see 01:07:04.448 --> 01:07:08.320 until past the third act mark. 01:07:08.480 --> 01:07:11.550 The third act is kind of going into the realm of what has 01:07:11.600 --> 01:07:15.610 actually going on in the movie. And it's. It's a. It's a great movie. 01:07:15.690 --> 01:07:18.506 Yeah, I've just gushed there. Go on and tell me something about it because people 01:07:18.538 --> 01:07:21.522 would be bored of me. Well, if you showed this movie to somebody who didn't 01:07:21.546 --> 01:07:25.010 know anything about it, the first almost half an hour is just a 01:07:25.050 --> 01:07:28.802 comedy road trip sort of vacation movie, isn't it, 01:07:28.826 --> 01:07:32.910 really? It's just three lads, sort of like american pie type 01:07:33.450 --> 01:07:37.082 humor. You know, they're just trying to get laid. And obviously you've got 01:07:37.106 --> 01:07:40.566 the icelandic guy. 80 sensibilities, man, 80 sensibilities. 01:07:40.638 --> 01:07:44.110 But except. Except they're not. They're not cliched characters. They are almost 01:07:44.190 --> 01:07:47.062 kind of unique. Or one of them is a bit gnarly, one of his. 01:07:47.086 --> 01:07:49.734 Bit more of a party. One is a bit of a nerd. Then you got 01:07:49.822 --> 01:07:53.014 some crazy European who's just jumped in with them and stuff. 01:07:53.182 --> 01:07:55.410 Yeah, he's like the king of the spring. 01:07:56.670 --> 01:07:59.926 Oli. Of course my horse. Of course my horse. 01:08:00.038 --> 01:08:03.662 He's great. He's a real character. I really 01:08:03.726 --> 01:08:07.400 like this film. I think before we get into it properly, I think 01:08:07.820 --> 01:08:12.300 out of the sort of 2000 and onwards torture 01:08:12.340 --> 01:08:15.828 porn films that sort of came out, this is 01:08:15.924 --> 01:08:19.284 probably the one that I will watch 01:08:19.332 --> 01:08:23.420 again and again and again. And the one that I really hold 01:08:23.460 --> 01:08:26.596 up there. Yes, I prefer it to Saul as well. 01:08:26.628 --> 01:08:29.240 It's a slightly different type of film to Saul. 01:08:29.740 --> 01:08:33.798 It's less murder mystery, more road trip into 01:08:33.934 --> 01:08:37.622 fucking hell, basically. Very imaginative, 01:08:37.686 --> 01:08:40.982 inventive, great twists, very tongue in cheek. 01:08:41.086 --> 01:08:44.798 Eli Roth, clearly, as everybody knows, and I'm not a 01:08:44.814 --> 01:08:48.454 genius for saying this, but clearly loves horror, knows the genre very 01:08:48.502 --> 01:08:51.878 well because there's a lot of references and a lot of things that 01:08:51.974 --> 01:08:55.198 he's lips on his head. He really knows what 01:08:55.214 --> 01:08:58.732 he's doing. Even the Takeshi Mikkei cameo was great for 01:08:58.756 --> 01:09:02.356 people who spotted that. And like you say, 01:09:02.388 --> 01:09:05.764 a great performances, particularly from Jay Hernandez, I think 01:09:05.812 --> 01:09:07.600 is brilliant in this film. 01:09:08.820 --> 01:09:12.452 And it's quite, without being gory, 01:09:12.596 --> 01:09:16.196 there's a couple of scenes that are quite effectively 01:09:16.348 --> 01:09:18.000 sinister and spooky. 01:09:20.660 --> 01:09:24.504 I won't talk about this now. I'll talk about this but later on. But yeah, 01:09:24.612 --> 01:09:27.460 good film, good film. I must confess, though, 01:09:28.920 --> 01:09:31.220 I prefer cabin fever. 01:09:32.760 --> 01:09:36.104 I absolutely love cabin fever. Yeah, I probably 01:09:36.152 --> 01:09:39.992 still am. This is a great film, don't get me wrong. Yeah. But the 01:09:40.016 --> 01:09:43.480 trouble that Roth's got himself into is he's done those two 01:09:43.520 --> 01:09:46.816 films and everyone expects him to do 01:09:46.968 --> 01:09:50.816 stuff that's as good and as inventive and as crazy. And I'm 01:09:50.848 --> 01:09:54.336 actually not. I'm still a fan of his work. He does 01:09:54.368 --> 01:09:57.672 get slated. I thought the Green Inferno, I could see what he was trying to 01:09:57.696 --> 01:10:01.040 do with it. A lot of people slated that 01:10:01.080 --> 01:10:05.176 and a lot of people have slated it. I think 01:10:05.248 --> 01:10:08.912 what he tries to do with his films is he tries to 01:10:09.056 --> 01:10:12.328 scare slash shock the audience with gore or 01:10:12.424 --> 01:10:15.848 scare or whatever he's trying to do. But he tries to throw in that eighties 01:10:15.944 --> 01:10:19.076 frat Boyden puke fart 01:10:19.148 --> 01:10:22.708 Dick joke comedy into the bag, which a lot of the 01:10:22.724 --> 01:10:26.036 sort of mid to late eighties horror did have. But I just 01:10:26.068 --> 01:10:29.788 don't think a lot of people get that or want to see that anymore. 01:10:29.844 --> 01:10:33.236 They want something fresher. And I think I like those throwbacks. 01:10:33.268 --> 01:10:36.588 So that's probably why I'm a bit of a Roth fan. Agree. 01:10:36.764 --> 01:10:40.220 That's just me. I've got not a bad word to say about Elo Roth, 01:10:40.260 --> 01:10:43.954 really. People are jealous, I think, because he's got a. Got him a Tarantino. 01:10:44.122 --> 01:10:46.722 He's not really. If you look at as a director, he hasn't really made many 01:10:46.746 --> 01:10:50.746 titles. He's just got into the movie 01:10:50.778 --> 01:10:53.842 industry. He makes for Tarantino. Getting his stamp on your 01:10:53.866 --> 01:10:57.266 film is fucking well done. Well, it started with the whole David lynch thing. 01:10:57.298 --> 01:11:01.154 And to be fair, he's, he. There is something about him, 01:11:01.202 --> 01:11:04.842 though. He. He is very slow making his films, 01:11:04.866 --> 01:11:07.930 but his films are. He's kind of like, in a way Rob zombies. 01:11:07.970 --> 01:11:11.736 Like it's a different type of filmmaker who isn't cheap. They kind 01:11:11.768 --> 01:11:15.312 of do have their own unique look on 01:11:15.336 --> 01:11:19.340 something. They're really pushing it across quite, almost nearly creative ways 01:11:20.640 --> 01:11:23.500 without Rob zombies. Halloween and Halloween two, 01:11:25.480 --> 01:11:29.020 but yeah, yeah. Which again is also 01:11:29.400 --> 01:11:32.816 very much Quentin Tarantino way. Now these guys, 01:11:32.928 --> 01:11:36.834 all these three people I'm speaking of are very much independent 01:11:36.962 --> 01:11:39.986 artists in a major world. Yeah, 01:11:40.138 --> 01:11:43.306 yeah. With their creative control and their little flair and spin 01:11:43.338 --> 01:11:46.986 and look of their visual flair and look of things. And they do what they 01:11:47.018 --> 01:11:50.306 want to do. I don't get me wrong with saw. I give it 01:11:50.338 --> 01:11:53.714 respect for its independence. Absolutely, absolutely. 01:11:53.762 --> 01:11:56.938 For making that film and these guys getting it and doing it and that's 01:11:57.034 --> 01:12:00.082 making something which is so profitable, which makes a fucking franchise. 01:12:00.226 --> 01:12:03.080 John mean, it's gonna make a lot more movies than this one and it's probably 01:12:03.160 --> 01:12:07.760 made more money in this movie. Yeah, totally, totally. But it's 01:12:07.840 --> 01:12:11.616 a cloth above saw. It's a real 01:12:11.648 --> 01:12:14.704 good flick. Should we get into the story? Cuz let's just chat about it. 01:12:14.712 --> 01:12:17.544 Should we go? Should we go? Should we go down? Let's start off in Amsterdam 01:12:17.592 --> 01:12:20.768 and let's go to a coffee shop, Dan. So I mean, 01:12:20.784 --> 01:12:24.288 we can, like as blokes, but as human beings you can relate to a lot 01:12:24.304 --> 01:12:27.072 of, lot of the shit that's happening in this. These are just guys. They're doing 01:12:27.096 --> 01:12:29.910 a little holiday, especially if. You'Ve been to Amazon Amsterdam as well. 01:12:30.930 --> 01:12:34.810 You know, I went there two years ago with Alice. Fucking crazy place. 01:12:34.930 --> 01:12:37.970 I've been there twice now. You've been there a couple of times. Honeymoon, man. 01:12:38.010 --> 01:12:41.930 Honeymooner in Amsterdam. Yeah. So we start off with these two 01:12:41.970 --> 01:12:45.842 american guys and their icelandic friend Oli. And they're sort of just 01:12:45.986 --> 01:12:49.658 getting stones trying to get laid. Like I 01:12:49.674 --> 01:12:52.650 said, it starts off like a bit of a teen sex, road trip, 01:12:52.690 --> 01:12:56.430 american pie type movie really, which I dig. I do appreciate. 01:12:57.130 --> 01:13:00.850 I agree what you're saying. Some people might not be into those gags anymore or 01:13:01.350 --> 01:13:04.478 never watch those gags from the get go, but I like those gags. 01:13:04.494 --> 01:13:08.630 And I think fine in horror, you. Know, even fright, 01:13:08.670 --> 01:13:11.078 it keeps him refined in the movie. I don't think he plays them to the 01:13:11.094 --> 01:13:14.446 point where it's cheap, over the top, where many films can do horror 01:13:14.478 --> 01:13:17.846 gets too serious. I think with some of James Wan's 01:13:17.878 --> 01:13:21.254 films, as great as they are, they do get a bit too serious sometimes, 01:13:21.302 --> 01:13:24.094 you know, and I want a bit of humor in my comp, my horror. 01:13:24.142 --> 01:13:27.400 I like when, when we look at things like what we do in the shadows. 01:13:27.520 --> 01:13:30.220 They're refreshing because they're funny again, 01:13:30.520 --> 01:13:34.456 you know, I like, I like comedy horror. That's probably my favorite type of horror, 01:13:34.488 --> 01:13:37.072 is ones that can throw in a bit of comedy in the mix because it's 01:13:37.096 --> 01:13:40.336 ridiculous. A lot of the things you're looking at are fucking ridiculous, 01:13:40.488 --> 01:13:43.736 so why not? I think Eli Roth does that very well and we'll get into 01:13:43.768 --> 01:13:47.360 some of the scenes he does that with in a bit. This film makes 01:13:47.400 --> 01:13:50.866 me feel like it's a lot older than ten years, though. But it's nothing. 01:13:50.928 --> 01:13:54.370 It's like, was it 2005? Yeah, 01:13:54.750 --> 01:13:57.574 sorry. Eleven years now. 01:13:57.702 --> 01:14:00.854 It. I feel like it's a lot older movie. That's why 01:14:00.862 --> 01:14:04.070 I think I get a real sort of seventies, eighties kind of vibe to. 01:14:04.230 --> 01:14:08.126 Because also european settings. It's a european setting. 01:14:08.278 --> 01:14:12.278 Yeah. If this could have. If this was gonna be. Sorry, queen. If this 01:14:12.414 --> 01:14:15.718 real bad film, like a cheap version of this, that would be. 01:14:15.774 --> 01:14:18.300 I know, American wrote in Paris. 01:14:19.320 --> 01:14:22.672 True, it did. Yeah. They. Yeah. Let's not talk about that film. 01:14:22.696 --> 01:14:26.648 But yeah, yeah. The backpackers. American. Free american backpackers in Europe 01:14:26.704 --> 01:14:30.056 and stuff. Which came first. American werewolf 01:14:30.168 --> 01:14:33.624 in Paris. Yeah. Oh, yeah. That was like nineties, 01:14:33.672 --> 01:14:36.500 wasn't it? Yeah, I bet I own that. Obvious. 01:14:37.400 --> 01:14:41.288 Um, yeah. Hilarious scenes. They. Gay clubbing. 01:14:41.424 --> 01:14:44.298 One of the american guys has got a fucking, as we call it in the 01:14:44.314 --> 01:14:47.234 UK, a bum bag, as it's called in America, funny pack. Yeah. 01:14:47.282 --> 01:14:50.538 Hilarious. Absolutely hilarious. They get 01:14:50.554 --> 01:14:52.906 into a fight with the guy as soon as he came on screen. I thought, 01:14:52.938 --> 01:14:56.690 that guy looks like fucking Legolas. Then they actually did call him Legolas, 01:14:56.730 --> 01:15:00.042 which I forgot. They do call him that, which is great. Just getting 01:15:00.066 --> 01:15:02.950 into those. Lord of the Rings. Lord of the Rings. 01:15:03.970 --> 01:15:07.434 Legolas. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, right. Because around that time that would have 01:15:07.442 --> 01:15:10.506 been Lord of the Rings was then. Still. Everybody talks 01:15:10.538 --> 01:15:13.892 about Lord of the Rings. Yeah, gone. I'm sorry. No, no, no, that's fine. 01:15:13.996 --> 01:15:17.436 That they just, like, they're trying to get laid, 01:15:17.508 --> 01:15:21.052 end up this really weird, funny scene where they meet 01:15:21.076 --> 01:15:24.668 another guy called Alexi and they go in his house and there's a couple just 01:15:24.724 --> 01:15:28.492 having sex, really stoned having sex. And they just all sort of 01:15:28.516 --> 01:15:31.716 sit there getting stoned watching you guys. This is 01:15:31.748 --> 01:15:35.132 fucking amazing. Oli is 01:15:35.236 --> 01:15:38.708 brilliant, isn't it? Eli Roth met him when he was 01:15:38.804 --> 01:15:41.996 doing something for Cam fever, possibly, I think, 01:15:42.188 --> 01:15:45.252 and wrote his character for him. 01:15:45.396 --> 01:15:48.212 Because every scene he's in, he really feels a show. 01:15:48.276 --> 01:15:52.164 He's very, very funny. Yeah. Like, but. But not in a dickhead way. 01:15:52.212 --> 01:15:55.972 He's very likable, although he, like, draws eyeballs on his ass and 01:15:55.996 --> 01:16:00.012 moons people. These are real life characters. 01:16:00.116 --> 01:16:04.092 They're. They're really. It's really well cast and it's a really good performance 01:16:04.236 --> 01:16:07.396 that's been given by actors and pulled out 01:16:07.428 --> 01:16:11.372 by director. Very good. Yeah. One thing I will 01:16:11.396 --> 01:16:15.560 definitely say especially between the Americans who are supposed to be friends Paxton and 01:16:16.100 --> 01:16:18.724 whatever the other guy is called. I can't remember his name now, the other character, 01:16:18.812 --> 01:16:22.468 but he's Josh. They seem like they've 01:16:22.484 --> 01:16:25.532 been friends for years and years and years. And with Oli as well, it just 01:16:25.556 --> 01:16:28.520 feels like the three of them definitely have been traveling around Europe together. 01:16:28.900 --> 01:16:31.980 Their goal is to get to Barcelona, isn't it? That's where they're aiming for. 01:16:32.020 --> 01:16:34.668 But they thought, fuck it. While we're in Amsterdam, we're gonna shag some girls and 01:16:34.684 --> 01:16:37.680 we're gonna get seen after pussy. 01:16:38.620 --> 01:16:41.452 Or is he good? Oh, he's got a name for it, hasn't he? 01:16:41.636 --> 01:16:43.920 Oli. There's an icelandic name for it. 01:16:45.740 --> 01:16:48.040 Schneeper. He calls it Schneeper. 01:16:48.740 --> 01:16:51.628 Schneeper patrol. He's got a t shirt at one point that says, 01:16:51.684 --> 01:16:55.220 schneeper patrol. So they're late night, they get back 01:16:55.260 --> 01:16:58.912 and they can't get into their home. So this guy, they start getting 01:16:59.096 --> 01:17:02.992 pissed off the neighbors and this guy says, hey, guys, come up 01:17:03.016 --> 01:17:06.192 here. Come on. And they all go up to this 01:17:06.216 --> 01:17:09.400 guy's room and he starts talking to him. Oh, no, he doesn't have an accent 01:17:09.440 --> 01:17:11.616 at all. He has a different sort of accent. He does know. He's called an 01:17:11.648 --> 01:17:14.260 Alexi. He does have an accent. I don't know where he's at. 01:17:16.080 --> 01:17:19.576 And says, oh, you want girls? Do you want girls 01:17:19.608 --> 01:17:23.162 like this? And show some pictures on some old school Nokia of phones. But there's, 01:17:23.186 --> 01:17:26.266 like, him with, like, two or three hot girls in 01:17:26.298 --> 01:17:29.666 every picture getting it all. You'd be like, who is this dude? Fucking? 01:17:29.698 --> 01:17:33.626 I'm not trusting. He's not a looker, is he, Alexi? He's not really, is he? 01:17:33.658 --> 01:17:35.950 You know? But apparently, you know, 01:17:36.610 --> 01:17:40.602 in Slovakia, it's fucking wicked. Yeah. So they're 01:17:40.626 --> 01:17:43.186 like, all right, well, all right, let's do it. 01:17:43.378 --> 01:17:46.658 So they get on this train. They go down there. On the way down there, 01:17:46.674 --> 01:17:50.282 they meet a fellow who likes to use his 01:17:50.346 --> 01:17:53.190 hands in his salad and on boy's knees, 01:17:54.810 --> 01:17:57.826 he's just a bit of. He's just. He's not 01:17:57.858 --> 01:18:01.610 too bad, actually. But, like, again, really good. Really good scenes 01:18:01.650 --> 01:18:05.002 aren't they? Really good. Well done. It's just quite creepy. Like, he's eating his 01:18:05.026 --> 01:18:08.290 salad. It's almost. It's almost got a Hitchcock tip to it, this whole 01:18:08.330 --> 01:18:11.786 character, you know, sort of. But, yeah, it gone. Sorry. No, it's just, I was 01:18:11.818 --> 01:18:14.870 gonna say sort of a bit creepy, 01:18:14.910 --> 01:18:18.070 like, I don't know. And he said eating his salad. And they said or something. 01:18:18.110 --> 01:18:21.118 They talk about knife and fork. And he's like, oh, no, people aren't really in 01:18:21.134 --> 01:18:24.590 touch with their food. You need to feel the food with your fingers. 01:18:24.630 --> 01:18:27.862 And he's just being a bit. Almost a bit sexual. And then at one point, 01:18:27.886 --> 01:18:30.782 he just puts his hand on Josh's knee, doesn't he? 01:18:30.886 --> 01:18:33.850 Yeah, I'm sorry. On Paxton's knee. And Paxton's like, 01:18:34.270 --> 01:18:36.598 goes a bit nuts about it. He does. And the guy gets out of there 01:18:36.614 --> 01:18:39.606 straight away and they all laugh at him. They. They get to this hostel and 01:18:39.638 --> 01:18:42.918 they get off the train and this place looks like shit. It looks like. 01:18:43.094 --> 01:18:46.290 It looks like local towns near me, actually. 01:18:47.950 --> 01:18:51.690 It just looks desolate and just really sort of run down. 01:18:52.550 --> 01:18:55.410 They walk in the hostel and pop fictions on tv. 01:18:56.590 --> 01:18:59.210 That is brilliant. That's brilliant scene. 01:19:00.870 --> 01:19:04.198 That's why you can have Tarantino's producer, you can say, can I just have a 01:19:04.214 --> 01:19:08.856 bit of Samuel Jackson in a different language on the screen? Yes, in Slovakian. 01:19:09.048 --> 01:19:12.024 Brilliant. And there's loads of birds, isn't there? 01:19:12.072 --> 01:19:15.440 Loads of really tasty females in the round. And they all smiling. 01:19:15.520 --> 01:19:18.616 They go up to the desk and Oli, the icelandic guy, says, oh, like, 01:19:18.688 --> 01:19:21.580 hi there. And he's like, oh, you must be Oli, the king of the swing. 01:19:22.000 --> 01:19:25.032 And they look at him like, you booked in as the king of the swing. 01:19:25.056 --> 01:19:28.464 He said, of course, of course, my horse. So he's like, 01:19:28.512 --> 01:19:31.752 literally everywhere he goes, he just calls himself the king 01:19:31.776 --> 01:19:35.556 of the swing. Well, they get told that they're gonna be sharing a room 01:19:35.588 --> 01:19:39.948 and they look to each other, go gay, and they go upstairs to 01:19:40.004 --> 01:19:43.228 discover it's actually two females who are getting undressed. They spot 01:19:43.244 --> 01:19:46.836 in the mirror and they. They go, oh, we're going to the sauna. You should 01:19:46.868 --> 01:19:50.548 join us. And they sort of go past and they're like, whoa. Okay, cool. 01:19:50.604 --> 01:19:54.108 Next scene, loads of naked women in the sauna. Yeah. And they're 01:19:54.124 --> 01:19:57.508 like, fucking sweet. The only is they're getting his 01:19:57.524 --> 01:20:00.398 balls out and his ass out for everybody because that's what he does. 01:20:00.454 --> 01:20:03.942 He shaved his balls then. He's got super, super shaved balls, 01:20:04.006 --> 01:20:07.814 super silky balls. He keeps talking about them as well. He's just hilarious, 01:20:07.862 --> 01:20:11.262 guy. They go clubbing with all these girls and they 01:20:11.286 --> 01:20:14.694 take some ecstasy. They're having a great time. 01:20:14.782 --> 01:20:17.678 That japanese girl that will meet up with later on, she's there as well. 01:20:17.734 --> 01:20:20.838 And everyone's just having a great time. Really. All these. It's like a. It feels 01:20:20.854 --> 01:20:24.006 like a local hostel pub or something. It looks. It feels like the pub, 01:20:24.038 --> 01:20:26.406 which is be connected to the hostel, but it's not. But do you know what 01:20:26.408 --> 01:20:29.488 I mean? It has that sort of vibe. Real. Yeah. Everyone's the. Who's at the 01:20:29.504 --> 01:20:33.456 hostels? At the bar? Well, Josh goes outside 01:20:33.648 --> 01:20:37.216 to get some air or something and this is our first glimpse of the 01:20:37.248 --> 01:20:40.792 bubble gum kids. How good are those kids? 01:20:40.936 --> 01:20:44.456 They're fucking horrible little shits. Now, you probably 01:20:44.528 --> 01:20:47.456 know this and I probably should know this fact. I think they're a real gang 01:20:47.488 --> 01:20:50.802 of kids, aren't they? Yeah, he just fine. 01:20:50.866 --> 01:20:54.154 And one of them's got like a wonky eye. They just look like they're all 01:20:54.202 --> 01:20:57.130 ranging from sort of the age of about five to about twelve, 01:20:57.210 --> 01:21:01.110 I'd say. And they mug our hero 01:21:03.210 --> 01:21:07.146 Josh, isn't it? Can I, can I. Can I press a rewind super quick? 01:21:07.298 --> 01:21:10.778 Yeah, yeah, yeah. When they 01:21:10.794 --> 01:21:12.870 were in Amsterdam, they had this sex scene. 01:21:13.770 --> 01:21:17.594 I really liked the way it was shot. Do you remember that? With the silhouette 01:21:17.642 --> 01:21:21.354 when they go into the brothel? Yeah. And you got silhouettes 01:21:21.522 --> 01:21:23.830 of all the people. Did you notice the song? 01:21:25.570 --> 01:21:28.826 The song. It's a song which is 01:21:28.858 --> 01:21:31.470 in Wicker man in the sex. 01:21:32.010 --> 01:21:35.522 The naked dance. Yes, yes. It's a remix. It's a 01:21:35.546 --> 01:21:39.110 remix of that song. I did not know that. I did not know that. 01:21:39.690 --> 01:21:43.232 Which is singing away a very, very. Very sexy scene when 01:21:43.256 --> 01:21:46.088 he goes in the room. And she's in the room. Yes, yes, 01:21:46.144 --> 01:21:49.488 totally. The way it's lit and everything. But he 01:21:49.504 --> 01:21:52.824 runs away, doesn't he? Can't do it. Yeah, yeah, 01:21:52.872 --> 01:21:55.540 totally. But you can forwards up again now. 01:21:57.880 --> 01:22:01.900 So. Yeah, that scene was good, by the way. Ollie only joins in, 01:22:02.520 --> 01:22:05.448 by the way, while we're on that scene. Yeah. Just drags one of the other 01:22:05.464 --> 01:22:08.352 guys in and they just watch a guy getting smacked about. Oh, no. And she 01:22:08.376 --> 01:22:11.512 says, you must pay your pay. He goes, I will, I will. You know, 01:22:11.616 --> 01:22:15.224 it's funny, the other guy just pretends he's had sex with a 01:22:15.232 --> 01:22:18.576 prostitute. Anyway, Josh gets mugged by the bubblegum gang outside the. 01:22:18.608 --> 01:22:22.168 Well, he's about to get mugged, but he gets saved by our friend 01:22:22.224 --> 01:22:25.744 from the train who we met earlier. Yes, it's nice. 01:22:25.792 --> 01:22:28.952 Josh says, I love the bit when. When he's sitting at the bar and his 01:22:28.976 --> 01:22:31.776 friend down at that. What's the other guy called? Pax? 01:22:31.848 --> 01:22:35.080 Paxton. Paxton. He looks up and says, hey, 01:22:35.160 --> 01:22:37.100 Josh Fagger. 01:22:39.120 --> 01:22:42.640 It's such Elo Roth humour, but it can't. Such a prick. Yeah, 01:22:42.680 --> 01:22:46.032 totally. But it's. He says to the guy with the glasses, you know, 01:22:46.136 --> 01:22:48.864 actually, I was horrible to you on the train. I'm sorry. Let me buy you 01:22:48.872 --> 01:22:51.432 a drink. And then he gets sort of going in and he spots. He's got 01:22:51.456 --> 01:22:54.288 a weird tattoo, doesn't he, of a blood hound on his arm. 01:22:54.384 --> 01:22:58.160 Yeah. It's a fairly passing thing, which plays off quite nicely, actually. You forget 01:22:58.200 --> 01:23:02.112 about it fairly soon. Yeah. It comes into play a bit later on. 01:23:02.176 --> 01:23:05.604 Indeed. So the boys go home 01:23:05.712 --> 01:23:09.236 and they shag their girls and they're having some great high 01:23:09.348 --> 01:23:13.324 drunk sex. It's all going very well. There's a really sinister 01:23:13.452 --> 01:23:17.148 moment where the girls, in the middle of having sex, look across the room and 01:23:17.164 --> 01:23:19.360 just sort of catch each other's eye. 01:23:20.740 --> 01:23:24.364 This is where I said both the films. Very mystery type movies. 01:23:24.452 --> 01:23:28.100 This is where we get these little bits of what's going 01:23:28.140 --> 01:23:31.524 on at this place. It's almost like you wish you didn't know what the synopsis 01:23:31.572 --> 01:23:35.174 was. But I think that synopsis actually pulled audience members into 01:23:35.222 --> 01:23:38.878 cinema. What, you know, what the reason is behind 01:23:39.014 --> 01:23:42.182 or what's going on and stuff, when you actually know about that. But I love 01:23:42.206 --> 01:23:45.690 the mystery element. It's brilliant. It's very, very good. 01:23:46.510 --> 01:23:50.174 Where's Oli? They're looking for Oli. They can't find him anywhere. 01:23:50.302 --> 01:23:52.974 And the guy on the desk says, oh, he's checked out. Like, what? Why would 01:23:52.982 --> 01:23:56.210 he do that? He's like, yay, checked out. He's gone. 01:23:57.390 --> 01:24:00.588 Did you notice what room they were in, by the way? Oh, 01:24:00.644 --> 01:24:04.868 I saw this in the trivia. Was it 264237 01:24:04.924 --> 01:24:08.444 from the shiny 237? 264, you know, 01:24:08.612 --> 01:24:11.280 room 666, Gav? Yeah, that'd been better. 01:24:12.420 --> 01:24:16.284 So, yeah, a great shot where they get a picture text 01:24:16.332 --> 01:24:19.680 message from Ollie. Ollie saying, 01:24:20.020 --> 01:24:23.404 I go home and they're like, 01:24:23.492 --> 01:24:26.922 what the fuck is going. Cause they find out he's got a daughter, 01:24:26.986 --> 01:24:30.418 didn't they? Yeah, yeah, totally. Yeah. And he just goes without saying anything. And they 01:24:30.434 --> 01:24:33.858 think that's unusual. And this is where the mystery doll gets turned up 01:24:33.874 --> 01:24:37.418 to eleven. Now you're like, greatest. All right. And you even know, 01:24:37.554 --> 01:24:41.170 you know, what's happened to him. And it's not even that shocking when it 01:24:41.290 --> 01:24:44.818 reveals what's happened to him. His head's been chopped. We zoom into 01:24:44.874 --> 01:24:48.034 that picture on the shitty old Nokia phone, like you say, and then we realize 01:24:48.082 --> 01:24:51.756 that he's been decapitated. Yeah. And it's not really that 01:24:51.788 --> 01:24:55.732 shocking, but you really start to feel as 01:24:55.796 --> 01:24:59.300 one of those guys with the mystery of where's he gone? You start 01:24:59.340 --> 01:25:02.924 to really emphasize with them, even though you know, what happened, 01:25:02.972 --> 01:25:06.572 which I find is a very interesting dilemma to 01:25:06.596 --> 01:25:09.988 be in as a viewer, you know. Well, now we feel even more sorry for 01:25:10.004 --> 01:25:13.212 them because they are really gutted that Odie's left them and 01:25:13.236 --> 01:25:16.470 they want to find him. And they suspect that there's some foul play. 01:25:16.550 --> 01:25:19.646 Foul play is in the air, I suspect. We know definitely 01:25:19.678 --> 01:25:22.806 there is because he's had his head cut off. So we know that there's definitely 01:25:22.838 --> 01:25:25.930 foul play. So they go out. 01:25:28.390 --> 01:25:31.102 Well, yeah, you get that man in the hostel with his little whistle, don't you? 01:25:31.126 --> 01:25:34.078 The crazy, sort of the guy from the opening credits who's, like, cleaning down all 01:25:34.094 --> 01:25:36.250 the hostile bits. He's all. 01:25:38.230 --> 01:25:41.902 Oh, yeah, yeah, clean everything. And then someone gets 01:25:41.926 --> 01:25:45.272 her token off. And then we cut back to Josh and Paxton. So now we've 01:25:45.296 --> 01:25:48.860 been given a little taste of there's something weird going on in this town. 01:25:49.160 --> 01:25:52.200 And we go back to them and they're out again with a couple of girls. 01:25:52.320 --> 01:25:55.592 Well, this is when you start because we kind of already know 01:25:55.616 --> 01:25:59.064 this and watch it as a repeated viewer. It's. You start to think, 01:25:59.112 --> 01:26:02.280 like, is. Is the hostel involved? Is. 01:26:02.360 --> 01:26:05.376 Is the bar involved? Is. Do you know what I mean? 01:26:05.448 --> 01:26:09.080 All these different things. Are they. Everybody's involved as a whole town 01:26:09.200 --> 01:26:12.608 who's involved, who's not. Yeah. And it's nice 01:26:12.664 --> 01:26:15.928 knowing that on repeat viewings because it's. 01:26:15.984 --> 01:26:18.512 You start to see these things. Like, you say you'd watch this over and over 01:26:18.536 --> 01:26:21.176 again. And that's definitely, in my opinion, as well. 01:26:21.368 --> 01:26:24.460 It's very layered and. Yeah, we go to this bar. Now, 01:26:24.760 --> 01:26:28.256 Paxton starts sort of suspecting these 01:26:28.288 --> 01:26:31.928 two girls. He's like, wow, I don't really trust these girls. 01:26:32.024 --> 01:26:35.850 I don't really know what's going on. And they end up, I think, 01:26:36.190 --> 01:26:39.286 is it Josh that feels sick? I know. Yeah, 01:26:39.318 --> 01:26:42.422 Josh feels sick. Packs and goes to the toilets, 01:26:42.566 --> 01:26:46.318 and he accidentally gets locked in the storage room, and he just 01:26:46.334 --> 01:26:50.078 falls asleep in there. Then we 01:26:50.094 --> 01:26:54.062 cut back to Josh waking up. Now, this is where things 01:26:54.246 --> 01:26:57.694 don't go well for Josh. So he wakes up and he's strapped to a chair, 01:26:57.742 --> 01:27:01.520 isn't he got a bag of. This is all 01:27:01.560 --> 01:27:04.920 sudden. This is when we turn into now proper torture porn, sort of thing. 01:27:05.000 --> 01:27:09.020 Yeah, yeah. And he is strapped to a chair and it's just his pants. 01:27:09.600 --> 01:27:12.792 He's got a bag over his head. He cannot see what is going on. 01:27:12.896 --> 01:27:15.992 And we know what's going on because we've already seen torture. We know the idea 01:27:16.016 --> 01:27:19.024 of the movie, the stops us and all that stuff, like I'm saying. But you 01:27:19.072 --> 01:27:22.224 start to really feel for this dude. You're like, oh, man, 01:27:22.392 --> 01:27:25.504 you're a long way away from America, you know? 01:27:25.592 --> 01:27:28.454 Is that. I. Policeman says later on. Yeah, yeah, he does. 01:27:28.502 --> 01:27:31.926 You're a long way from home and you start to really feel 01:27:31.998 --> 01:27:35.614 for it. Yeah, go. The guy picks up a drill. 01:27:35.782 --> 01:27:39.486 Are you a sort of backpacking type person? I've done a bit of backpacking. 01:27:39.518 --> 01:27:43.334 I backpacked around Australia for a few months. I went to Canada and did 01:27:43.342 --> 01:27:47.286 a road trip with a friend in Canada for three months. 01:27:47.478 --> 01:27:50.542 I've done a little bit. I've not really done Europe, which I'd quite like to 01:27:50.686 --> 01:27:54.202 back around, but I'm kind of a bit too old now and I'm settled down 01:27:54.226 --> 01:27:57.578 with Alice. So I feel like me and her will probably continue to 01:27:57.594 --> 01:28:00.562 have lovely holidays in Europe, but we won't be doing anything, like, sort of a 01:28:00.586 --> 01:28:03.430 month or two traveling around anymore. No, 01:28:04.130 --> 01:28:07.570 not really. I'm not. I'm too much 01:28:07.610 --> 01:28:10.470 for, like, staying at my home. I'm very. 01:28:11.250 --> 01:28:14.706 A lot of people like to go venturing, partying and going places, 01:28:14.738 --> 01:28:18.670 and I don't tend to sort of do that back. 01:28:19.810 --> 01:28:23.322 I'm too old for it. I'm just. It doesn't. It's never really interest me that 01:28:23.346 --> 01:28:26.738 much. But. But the times I have been, when I've been. Because I have been 01:28:26.754 --> 01:28:30.150 to quite a few different place in Europe times I have been. 01:28:30.970 --> 01:28:34.586 I, you know, I could feel like 01:28:34.658 --> 01:28:38.098 kind of that whole. Sort of that feeling of that when 01:28:38.114 --> 01:28:41.578 you're in different. No, no, no. 01:28:41.634 --> 01:28:44.884 The slight intimidation of it and stuff like that because, like I say, 01:28:44.932 --> 01:28:48.068 I'm more of a stay at home person, so I get that slightly intimidated. 01:28:48.124 --> 01:28:51.252 So, like, if I'm in a place which is not completely english 01:28:51.276 --> 01:28:54.620 speaking and it's very local like that, I'd be like, 01:28:54.700 --> 01:28:57.356 man, I'm a little bit out my depth here and I don't trust anyone. 01:28:57.388 --> 01:29:00.932 I'd be really paranoid sort of thing because that's kind of how I am and 01:29:00.956 --> 01:29:05.116 you. So I myself can really feel this movie and those characters 01:29:05.148 --> 01:29:08.554 and the situation be like, man, if there's an. If Thomas 01:29:08.612 --> 01:29:12.494 Cook wants to have a movie to support their adventure holidays, 01:29:12.582 --> 01:29:16.054 this is not the movie to go with. You know, it's going to put you 01:29:16.062 --> 01:29:18.250 off. It's not going to make you want to go to Slovakia. 01:29:20.430 --> 01:29:23.622 Yeah, you're right. They're very 01:29:23.686 --> 01:29:27.758 arrogant, cocky foreigners. And I don't just mean the Americans. Oli as well. 01:29:27.894 --> 01:29:31.166 And the japanese girl and everyone there. They're just like, yeah, man, they're rocking up 01:29:31.198 --> 01:29:34.380 into this foreign town and they've got no real respect. 01:29:34.470 --> 01:29:38.472 They just want to shag their women, drink their beer, take their drugs and move 01:29:38.496 --> 01:29:41.688 on to the next town. And, yeah, they get. They get 01:29:41.704 --> 01:29:45.272 their fucking comeuppance. So Josh gets a drill shoved 01:29:45.296 --> 01:29:48.408 into his leg. He sick 01:29:48.464 --> 01:29:51.880 on himself. He's got the old cage from pet. 01:29:51.920 --> 01:29:54.952 Symmetry cutting of the old blade. That is. 01:29:55.136 --> 01:29:58.420 That's nasty. That's. That's. That's the real torture, isn't it? So the guy, 01:29:58.840 --> 01:30:02.212 just to describe this scene, he goes around behind 01:30:02.276 --> 01:30:05.692 him, and we don't see what he does. It does something to 01:30:05.716 --> 01:30:08.940 Josh. And then he unlocks the handcuffs and he says, right, I've opened the door. 01:30:08.980 --> 01:30:12.604 You can run away now. Josh stands up and we realize he's had his achilles 01:30:12.652 --> 01:30:16.212 tendon sliced close up. Macro shock here. 01:30:16.236 --> 01:30:19.732 Now it splits wide open. And he falls to the 01:30:19.756 --> 01:30:23.452 floor and he's screaming and trying to get. I think it's a really nice touch 01:30:23.476 --> 01:30:26.634 with all the sick. Breaking news. Breaking news coming through right 01:30:26.682 --> 01:30:30.530 now. We have more comments on questions or anything to 01:30:30.570 --> 01:30:32.590 ask us on the Facebook page. 01:30:33.450 --> 01:30:36.274 Now. This is Tristan Gnarly Martin. 01:30:36.402 --> 01:30:39.586 Do you know Tristan Gnarly Martin? I don't, but he sounds gnarly. 01:30:39.658 --> 01:30:41.990 You do? True or false? 01:30:43.410 --> 01:30:47.274 Fair user bulk once threatened to use candle magic 01:30:47.322 --> 01:30:49.830 on me after I called her a bitch. 01:30:51.940 --> 01:30:55.980 What? What's that mean? Well, you know who froosa bulk is, don't you 01:30:56.020 --> 01:30:58.516 know? Because I'm absolutely naive. What is it? 01:30:58.628 --> 01:31:01.788 She's the. Okay, so she was in return 01:31:01.844 --> 01:31:05.836 to Oz, but as a little girl, but crazy one in the craft. 01:31:05.908 --> 01:31:09.132 No, I've not seen that film. Oh, I. Okay, yeah, I know 01:31:09.156 --> 01:31:12.760 who she is. Yep. Okay, so hang on a minute. Who? 01:31:13.260 --> 01:31:16.580 Friend to use. Justin. Call her a bitch. 01:31:16.660 --> 01:31:19.862 I don't know. Possibly. All right, fact or 01:31:19.886 --> 01:31:23.574 fiction? I don't know for that one. Then what? Should we go for that? 01:31:23.622 --> 01:31:25.850 We. I say. I say true. 01:31:27.830 --> 01:31:30.414 Middle name is Gnarly, has the guts. Pull through. 01:31:30.462 --> 01:31:33.710 Sabulka, bitch. I go true. Okay, 01:31:33.750 --> 01:31:36.930 he's got two. Before we talk about something else, very quickly. Yeah. 01:31:37.270 --> 01:31:40.630 Theresa bulk, as weird looking as she is, 01:31:40.710 --> 01:31:43.696 I think, is incredibly hot. 01:31:43.888 --> 01:31:46.912 And a lot of people berate me for this. Fuck them. 01:31:46.976 --> 01:31:50.664 Because I think she's crazy hot. Do you think she would do stuff 01:31:50.712 --> 01:31:54.744 like, to you that other women probably wouldn't peruse? 01:31:54.752 --> 01:31:58.520 Is not. She would dress you up as, like, a stay puft 01:31:58.560 --> 01:32:01.460 marshmallow man and want to eat you. 01:32:02.320 --> 01:32:05.696 Yeah. With gravy. This is 01:32:05.728 --> 01:32:09.160 such a romantic episode. It really is. I'm so happy with us. 01:32:09.200 --> 01:32:12.656 Anyway, Tristan also says two more things. This is 01:32:12.688 --> 01:32:14.660 breaking news. I'm gonna have to have some break. 01:32:16.360 --> 01:32:20.528 Fact or fiction? You ready? The clover filled monster 01:32:20.584 --> 01:32:23.600 was created from a photo of a giant. 01:32:23.640 --> 01:32:27.580 Giant meat poop from a drunken Stephen segal. 01:32:29.560 --> 01:32:32.712 True. That is a definite true one. That one. Let me read this again. 01:32:32.736 --> 01:32:35.866 The clover monster created from a photo of 01:32:35.898 --> 01:32:39.590 a giant meat poop from a drunken Stephen seagal. 01:32:40.610 --> 01:32:44.042 For real. I read JJ Abrams went 01:32:44.066 --> 01:32:47.282 round to Seagull's house, and him and Chuck 01:32:47.306 --> 01:32:51.274 Norris got a poop out of his toilet 01:32:51.442 --> 01:32:54.602 and they modeled a monster on it. I tell 01:32:54.626 --> 01:32:57.658 you what, the next one, I'm not gonna ask now, 01:32:57.714 --> 01:33:01.212 but we're gonna do that world of strange. Tristan, we're coming back to. To you 01:33:01.316 --> 01:33:04.812 in world of the strange because I think that fit that quite well. All right, 01:33:04.876 --> 01:33:08.120 cool. Carry on with hostel. Exciting. 01:33:11.300 --> 01:33:14.972 I'm gonna feel really bad, though, if anyone gets any questions. And we finished. 01:33:15.116 --> 01:33:18.140 No, we put up a thing on Facebook. So that's it. No more questions. 01:33:18.220 --> 01:33:21.484 No more questions. We could do this from now on. We should do this from 01:33:21.492 --> 01:33:25.908 now on. It's taken us 30 episodes for shit. 01:33:26.084 --> 01:33:29.032 We are pretty shit, but we're at least getting two episodes out this month. 01:33:29.156 --> 01:33:32.552 That's not bad, because in January we did get one episode out. 01:33:32.616 --> 01:33:36.096 Brilliant. Sexy. That is sexy. So carry on. Achilles tendons have been 01:33:36.128 --> 01:33:39.512 split. Oh, God, that looks painful. That's all we really see 01:33:39.536 --> 01:33:43.752 of him crawling towards the door. Then we go back. Paxton's woken up in 01:33:43.776 --> 01:33:47.304 the locker room, in the locked room that he's in, in the bar. 01:33:47.392 --> 01:33:51.220 He goes back to the hostel. Now, this is kind of like a 01:33:52.320 --> 01:33:56.460 flaw in the plan, isn't it? Because they didn't expect him to van 01:33:56.500 --> 01:33:59.492 a vanish into a locked room. So he kind of rocks the boat a little 01:33:59.516 --> 01:34:02.676 bit here. Yeah, yeah. So he goes up. Now, this is my. This is 01:34:02.708 --> 01:34:06.068 my creepy scene. This is when he goes upstairs. This is. 01:34:06.204 --> 01:34:09.700 Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is two more girls. What? This is. 01:34:09.740 --> 01:34:13.244 This is invasion of your space. This is where his space 01:34:13.292 --> 01:34:15.988 was like. Yep. Can't carry on. So he goes back to the room that they 01:34:16.004 --> 01:34:18.796 were in, and two girls are in there. Not the same two girls, but another 01:34:18.828 --> 01:34:22.430 two girls in exactly the same position saying exactly the same things. 01:34:23.250 --> 01:34:26.658 They're luring them in. This is what they're trained to do, these people in 01:34:26.674 --> 01:34:30.234 this hostel. And they're like, oh, you should come to the spa with us later. 01:34:30.322 --> 01:34:32.750 You must come. Yeah, 01:34:33.810 --> 01:34:37.314 so it is creepy. Horrible. Well, this is. This is where, 01:34:37.362 --> 01:34:40.226 again, you're with him on this. Paxton? 01:34:40.258 --> 01:34:43.650 Yeah, you're with Paxton. And you're just, 01:34:43.690 --> 01:34:46.924 like, really feeling this. Like, oh, my God. 01:34:46.972 --> 01:34:50.388 They charfu. But, like, this is two different women. And so 01:34:50.404 --> 01:34:52.600 he goes down to the reception desk and says, 01:34:53.540 --> 01:34:57.436 blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And the guy's like, you checked out. 01:34:57.588 --> 01:35:00.320 I didn't check out. You know, I'm here. And he's like, no, 01:35:01.500 --> 01:35:06.420 your friends have checked out. You checked out. And then he says about the japanese 01:35:06.460 --> 01:35:09.588 girl. Yeah. He says to her, she said, oh, my friend's gone. 01:35:09.644 --> 01:35:12.358 My friend's checked out. I don't know where my friend is. And he's like, 01:35:12.374 --> 01:35:14.902 well, I don't know where my friend is. This is weird. And he says, 01:35:14.926 --> 01:35:18.174 oh, they checked out together. And they're like, what? What? This is very unlike 01:35:18.222 --> 01:35:21.734 either of them. What the fuck is going on? Yeah. So he says to 01:35:21.742 --> 01:35:23.926 her, like, do you want to sort of hang out with me for a bit 01:35:23.958 --> 01:35:27.326 and try and find our friend? And she's obviously, like, she doesn't speak English 01:35:27.358 --> 01:35:30.854 very well. Great mystery movie. This still is. Yeah. Great. 01:35:30.982 --> 01:35:34.654 I almost would like. Here you go. There's a new cut of the movie. 01:35:34.742 --> 01:35:37.528 Cut out the stuff where, you know, it's what's going on and talk to of 01:35:37.544 --> 01:35:41.184 stuff and just have those guys, the mystery element try that out. 01:35:41.232 --> 01:35:44.792 Huh? Huh? Now, doesn't the japanese girl, hasn't she been 01:35:44.816 --> 01:35:48.048 sent a photo of that? Is it the chimney that she's been sent a photo 01:35:48.104 --> 01:35:48.700 of. 01:35:57.240 --> 01:36:01.048 Josh? No, you're thinking of when 01:36:01.064 --> 01:36:04.938 it's Odie and that girl, I think. Yeah, that's earlier 01:36:04.994 --> 01:36:08.514 on. Yeah. So. But they do eventually get a photo 01:36:08.562 --> 01:36:11.778 of a chimney because they start wandering around and they find the 01:36:11.794 --> 01:36:15.150 chimney, don't they? Like, on the building? Do you remember? 01:36:16.250 --> 01:36:19.710 Yeah, I'm thinking of the other picture. Okay, carry on. 01:36:21.050 --> 01:36:24.586 He finds the chimney, and the children attack him. 01:36:24.698 --> 01:36:27.994 And they take his. Take everything he's got, pretty much. And he grabs one of 01:36:28.002 --> 01:36:31.286 them and starts strangling. It's amazing. You see, like, 01:36:31.318 --> 01:36:34.774 the anger and the whole feeling alone 01:36:34.822 --> 01:36:38.246 now. And he just takes it out on his kid because it's what happens 01:36:38.278 --> 01:36:41.174 with people. Someone gets fucking, you know, 01:36:41.222 --> 01:36:44.478 verbally attacked. Wherever you end up getting so angry, you go and 01:36:44.494 --> 01:36:47.774 take it out on the next thing, which might be sort of slody 01:36:47.862 --> 01:36:54.638 under you as such. Whatever. And this is for him, is punch 01:36:54.694 --> 01:36:57.932 bag as such, isn't it? Literally and physically. It's because 01:36:57.956 --> 01:37:01.284 he's. He's feeling all. All out of sorts now because he's had a bit of 01:37:01.292 --> 01:37:04.800 deja vu in the hostel, isn't both his friends have gone. Yeah. 01:37:05.700 --> 01:37:09.052 In this little village out of nowhere. Yeah, definitely. Yeah. 01:37:09.076 --> 01:37:12.828 He's been mugged. So he goes to the cops, doesn't he? What? 01:37:13.004 --> 01:37:16.612 So this again here I'm sitting. Are they involved? They know what's 01:37:16.636 --> 01:37:19.612 going on, but they feel like this is the policeman. He's. 01:37:19.756 --> 01:37:23.676 He has a bit of trust in me because it goes always. We always 01:37:23.708 --> 01:37:27.524 say this in films, you always trust the cops. Like in inside, when the cops 01:37:27.572 --> 01:37:31.420 come. That's a classic example. But she doesn't. 01:37:31.540 --> 01:37:35.036 You feel safe? You always feel safe. Yeah. Unless it's. 01:37:35.148 --> 01:37:37.972 Unless it's maniacal line that I mentioned earlier, 01:37:38.076 --> 01:37:41.040 then. Yeah, unless it's maniac cop. 01:37:41.780 --> 01:37:45.588 Don't trust maniacal. If he's called maniac cop, that's gonna 01:37:45.644 --> 01:37:49.404 belt, but a lot. If he's like PC Copdh. What's your name on PC 01:37:49.452 --> 01:37:51.932 Cop? What's. What's your first name? 01:37:51.996 --> 01:37:55.124 Maniac? My brother's Wolf cop. 01:37:55.252 --> 01:37:58.540 Which mean your brother's wolf cop. Oh, sorry. I thought you actually told me your 01:37:58.580 --> 01:38:01.372 brother. My brother is wolf. 01:38:01.396 --> 01:38:04.680 Copy now. 01:38:05.460 --> 01:38:08.388 Wolf cock. Go on, carry on. Yes. 01:38:08.444 --> 01:38:11.924 So he goes to the cop. The cop says that sinister 01:38:11.972 --> 01:38:15.190 line, you are far from home, my friend, 01:38:15.340 --> 01:38:17.866 and. You really feel it with him. 01:38:17.938 --> 01:38:21.442 And I love it. I'm like, great, this is it. 01:38:21.466 --> 01:38:25.186 This is. We've gone to the point of no return. Now, what's gonna happen 01:38:25.218 --> 01:38:29.730 now then? Well, he comes out the police bar, the policeman's PlayStation, 01:38:29.810 --> 01:38:33.110 and he spots those girls and he sort of follows them 01:38:35.010 --> 01:38:37.466 and he goes into the barn, he sort of confronts them and they're like, 01:38:37.498 --> 01:38:40.230 laughing at him. Do you notice how rough they look here? 01:38:40.640 --> 01:38:44.600 Elo Roth wanted to make them look rough and rougher to reflect 01:38:44.640 --> 01:38:48.608 their souls. They're acting really crack whore ish. I've put 01:38:48.624 --> 01:38:52.256 down on my notes. They look like crack whores. 01:38:52.368 --> 01:38:56.192 So he says to them, where are my friends? And they start being really cryptic 01:38:56.216 --> 01:38:58.980 and saying they're at the. How do you say? 01:38:59.280 --> 01:39:03.248 The art show? And he's like, what art show? She's like, the exhibition. 01:39:03.424 --> 01:39:05.568 He's like, what do you mean? She's like? It's an art show where people, 01:39:05.624 --> 01:39:09.176 like, things are on display and he's like, that doesn't sound like something 01:39:09.208 --> 01:39:11.520 that my friends would want to do. And she's like, no, no, no, it's fine. 01:39:11.560 --> 01:39:14.860 It's fine. Come with us. So he gets in the car with them 01:39:15.160 --> 01:39:18.740 and there's loads of bubblegum in the car. And they drive along 01:39:19.040 --> 01:39:22.312 and they get closer and closer. And he realizes he's going to this factory that 01:39:22.336 --> 01:39:25.420 the chimney is attached to from earlier. But he got a photo. 01:39:25.800 --> 01:39:29.288 I really like this. So at this point here, you're in the car 01:39:29.344 --> 01:39:32.426 with him, you're going along, and he's just looking 01:39:32.458 --> 01:39:36.634 out the window, looking at scenery. And he doesn't realize 01:39:36.682 --> 01:39:40.730 at this point here this might be him being driven to 01:39:40.770 --> 01:39:44.322 his death. Well, it's supposed to be. He doesn't know. 01:39:44.386 --> 01:39:47.650 Personally, I would not have gotten that car. Of course not. And this guy is 01:39:47.690 --> 01:39:51.650 Front's driving and the girl's their passenger. And they both know this as well. 01:39:51.690 --> 01:39:55.338 But he doesn't speak in slovakian to each other. He doesn't know what's going on. 01:39:55.434 --> 01:39:58.832 And that's terrible. Terrible. Like, you know. 01:39:59.016 --> 01:40:02.136 Yeah. Brilliant. So he gets there, meets Takashi. 01:40:02.168 --> 01:40:05.640 Mate, says, you will see, 01:40:05.720 --> 01:40:09.064 Kevin. You can spend all of your money in there. 01:40:09.152 --> 01:40:12.568 Yeah, very good. Just one line. But I love it. 01:40:12.624 --> 01:40:16.120 Really well done. Excuse me. What's his liking there? 01:40:16.200 --> 01:40:19.664 Yeah, it's very good. Really good. And he sees. 01:40:19.752 --> 01:40:22.420 He's been told it's an art show. 01:40:23.530 --> 01:40:26.322 Yeah. That's all. He goes up to the booth is, I love this fact. 01:40:26.346 --> 01:40:29.610 It's a little booth there, a little shed with some guy reading, 01:40:29.650 --> 01:40:33.150 looking at page three. He's like, how much? And he's like, for you, 01:40:33.770 --> 01:40:35.990 nothing. Go in. 01:40:37.690 --> 01:40:40.762 So the girl says over there. 01:40:40.906 --> 01:40:43.138 And the girl just says, yeah, go in that way. And he's like, wait on 01:40:43.154 --> 01:40:46.266 a minute. Like it's very suspicious. But he's 01:40:46.298 --> 01:40:50.058 so desperate to find his friends, he's willing to believe that in 01:40:50.074 --> 01:40:52.988 this run down old factory out in the middle of nowhere, there might be an 01:40:53.004 --> 01:40:56.428 art exhibition in there. He's got fucking bigger balls than me. 01:40:56.524 --> 01:40:59.908 He could get his balls into his mouth. He definitely could. 01:40:59.964 --> 01:41:04.060 He definitely could. So unfortunately, the first thing he sees 01:41:04.100 --> 01:41:07.040 is his mate Josh being dissected by the man from the train. 01:41:08.420 --> 01:41:12.276 And then that really gnarly scene of those 01:41:12.348 --> 01:41:15.954 dudes coming out, grabbing him and pulling them away, slamming into doors. 01:41:16.012 --> 01:41:19.170 And the door shuts. Yeah. It's like, 01:41:20.430 --> 01:41:23.758 how the fuck's he gonna get out of this? She says to him at one 01:41:23.774 --> 01:41:27.414 point, something real powerful 01:41:27.462 --> 01:41:30.910 line. She says, I make you my bitch now. 01:41:31.070 --> 01:41:33.462 Do you remember when she says that? Yeah. When he looks back to it. 01:41:33.486 --> 01:41:37.126 Yeah. Yeah. She says, now I'm gonna make you my bitch. And they drag 01:41:37.158 --> 01:41:40.502 him along. And we get a glimpse into. Really quickly, a glimpse into all 01:41:40.526 --> 01:41:44.320 these different rooms. Really well done. Horrible things happening in every room. 01:41:45.580 --> 01:41:48.572 Horrible scene. That is what's going on in those rooms. 01:41:48.636 --> 01:41:51.940 He's taken into the room the same as his friend was taken earlier. This is 01:41:51.980 --> 01:41:55.140 back to the whole torture porn. He's put down to a chair, 01:41:55.300 --> 01:41:58.860 strapped in. We know what's going on. We know what's gonna happen. 01:41:58.900 --> 01:42:03.040 We've seen it done to a few people already. And he. 01:42:03.780 --> 01:42:06.440 Yeah, this guy comes in and. 01:42:08.790 --> 01:42:12.342 Is it the guy with the scissors? Yeah. He's snipping at his 01:42:12.366 --> 01:42:15.630 face because he. Cuts a block of hair off. So this guy 01:42:15.670 --> 01:42:19.590 obviously does it. This job, this thing, because we still don't know what's going 01:42:19.630 --> 01:42:23.310 on here. Really reminds me of scream, where Fonzie 01:42:23.350 --> 01:42:26.606 is swinging the scissors at the kiss. Really reminds me of that 01:42:26.638 --> 01:42:30.446 scene. I've never. Right, okay. Right. We're gonna remake. We're gonna do. 01:42:30.638 --> 01:42:34.490 We're gonna do hostel four. Henry Winkler is the main actor 01:42:35.000 --> 01:42:36.220 as the fons. 01:42:43.400 --> 01:42:46.616 Now, there's a great little callback here, because earlier on, Paxton was 01:42:46.648 --> 01:42:50.344 speaking a bit of German. He can speak German, and he's not, 01:42:50.472 --> 01:42:53.472 you know, often foreigners, english speakers, 01:42:53.496 --> 01:42:56.712 are portrayed as just only speaking one language. They travel around getting into 01:42:56.736 --> 01:43:00.218 trouble. He actually can speak a bit of German. And this really throws off his 01:43:00.234 --> 01:43:03.890 torturer, who is German. And he doesn't like it, does he? 01:43:03.930 --> 01:43:07.442 It's brilliant. He hates it because he's. He's really getting 01:43:07.506 --> 01:43:11.266 off on trying to stab this guy and hurt him. 01:43:11.338 --> 01:43:14.650 Paxton, he's really like, this is how this 01:43:14.690 --> 01:43:18.690 guy fucking ejaculates in his pants. He really 01:43:18.770 --> 01:43:21.642 fucking likes to hurt people. 01:43:21.746 --> 01:43:25.298 Well, it is the Valentine's episode. If you're gonna Jack Ditton pants in any episode 01:43:25.314 --> 01:43:28.336 of the podcast undead here, which should be this one. Kevin. I know I have 01:43:28.368 --> 01:43:32.088 twice already in this episode. I've tortured people three times in 01:43:32.104 --> 01:43:35.312 this episode. I've. They've got tape over their mouth. You can't 01:43:35.336 --> 01:43:38.784 hear them, but I'm just fucking stabbing left, right, and center right here. 01:43:38.952 --> 01:43:41.420 I've tortured my little friend. My little one eyed friend. 01:43:43.160 --> 01:43:46.192 Beat, beat. Seven shades of purple out of it. 01:43:46.336 --> 01:43:50.072 Yeah. Anyway, enough about wanking. Let's get 01:43:50.096 --> 01:43:53.682 back to chainsaws. So they gag him. 01:43:53.866 --> 01:43:57.754 He gets gagged because all complaints doesn't. He's like, there's this one's defective. 01:43:57.802 --> 01:44:00.874 He speaks fucking German. Get a gag on him. So they put a pulp fiction, 01:44:00.922 --> 01:44:04.842 obviously, another call back to pulp Fiction. They put a bull gag on him, 01:44:04.866 --> 01:44:08.430 don't they? Just like Marsalis and Bruce Willis get you. 01:44:09.090 --> 01:44:11.946 And you know, because he's begging him in German and he stops saying, you know, 01:44:11.978 --> 01:44:15.550 please, please don't do this. Please don't do this. Guy picks up his chainsaw, 01:44:15.930 --> 01:44:19.416 bit of a weird I. He decides to cut off just two of Paxton's fingers 01:44:19.448 --> 01:44:22.856 here. No, no, he does it by accident. Is it an accident? 01:44:22.968 --> 01:44:26.920 That's an accident. Tie behind his back. It says when he turns the chainsaw 01:44:26.960 --> 01:44:30.064 on, he picks it up. And as he picks up, he just literally chops his 01:44:30.072 --> 01:44:33.352 fingers. He's not gonna get play shout chopping someone's fingers off 01:44:33.376 --> 01:44:36.840 behind their back. It's not, but it's good that he does that because he does. 01:44:36.960 --> 01:44:39.940 He won't even get a bonus through that. 01:44:40.600 --> 01:44:44.906 This scene is both ridiculous and 01:44:45.018 --> 01:44:48.730 disgusting and shocking. I think this is Eli 01:44:48.770 --> 01:44:52.602 Roth through and through. So to paint the picture, 01:44:52.666 --> 01:44:55.962 you've got a chainsaw, weed wielding torturer slipping on the 01:44:55.986 --> 01:44:59.850 dismembered fingers of the man that, who's in the chair that he's about to torture, 01:44:59.970 --> 01:45:03.210 only to have the chainsaw then land on his own stomach and just 01:45:03.250 --> 01:45:06.890 lie there cutting into him for fucking ages. It's just 01:45:06.930 --> 01:45:10.102 ridiculous, but brilliant. And you're kind of like your shocked by it, but you're also 01:45:10.126 --> 01:45:13.646 like, yes, fucking have some. Yeah, you do 01:45:13.678 --> 01:45:16.598 think it is almost like a James Bond movie when he is tired up, 01:45:16.614 --> 01:45:20.470 you think, oh, bond gonna get out of this one. And he 01:45:20.510 --> 01:45:23.050 does get over, which is kind of cool. So, 01:45:24.830 --> 01:45:28.358 well, he, um, has, how does he, 01:45:28.534 --> 01:45:32.086 does he press a button or something to contact the, the bouncer, 01:45:32.278 --> 01:45:35.116 the security? How does he contact the shirt? 01:45:35.278 --> 01:45:38.600 No, it's not shown, is it? He just goes out, 01:45:38.640 --> 01:45:42.328 doesn't he? Because later on we see the chains are still running later. 01:45:42.424 --> 01:45:45.904 No, no, no, he's still in there. He's tied up. 01:45:46.032 --> 01:45:48.944 No, he's not tied up. He's let himself out and he's kid, 01:45:49.032 --> 01:45:52.140 he shoots the guy. How does he get out of the chair? 01:45:53.120 --> 01:45:56.440 Because the guy with the chainsaw, when he chopped his hand, 01:45:56.560 --> 01:45:59.648 fingers, I think he chops the straps as well. Okay, 01:45:59.744 --> 01:46:03.200 I'm pretty sure I could be wrong. 01:46:04.020 --> 01:46:06.680 We should know. Well, he gets a gun then he. 01:46:07.620 --> 01:46:10.228 Because the guy's got a gun as well, so. And anyway, gets out and he 01:46:10.244 --> 01:46:13.140 shoots the guy, the guy who's cut his stomach, shoots him in the head. 01:46:13.180 --> 01:46:16.228 Anyway, the bouncer probably must hear the bullet shots, 01:46:16.284 --> 01:46:18.860 I guess. No, because he won't come in because he think he's shooting him. 01:46:18.900 --> 01:46:22.500 He must have contacted him or said maybe said it in German. That's probably 01:46:22.540 --> 01:46:26.010 what he does. Shouts out, come here, please. I think he does. 01:46:26.140 --> 01:46:29.406 Anyway, so he goes back in there. So he quickly jumps back into his seat. 01:46:29.438 --> 01:46:33.190 The guy bounce comes in, sees the. Sees the client, his clients on the floor. 01:46:33.230 --> 01:46:36.510 Oh, my God, the client's on the floor. What's going on? He turns around, 01:46:36.550 --> 01:46:39.750 packs and shoots him in the head. Bang. Great. He gets out of there, 01:46:39.790 --> 01:46:43.966 and now he puts a costume on. He puts some amazing horn head costume 01:46:43.998 --> 01:46:47.390 on. How good is that? Horn head. I want Horn head. This. 01:46:47.430 --> 01:46:50.950 This Halloween. We could go watch John Carpenter. Let's. Boy, let's get some horn 01:46:50.990 --> 01:46:55.000 heads. No, we're going as Corey Feldman from 01:46:55.160 --> 01:46:57.900 Lost Boys. What, frog brothers? Yeah, 01:46:58.360 --> 01:47:02.008 it's already done. So it's a great, great scene here. 01:47:02.024 --> 01:47:04.848 Like I say, he's in disguise. He goes down to the basement. He works like 01:47:04.864 --> 01:47:08.976 that. Right? In the basement is where they take the bodies for the hunchback, 01:47:09.168 --> 01:47:13.336 which is crazy. Again, a crazy character in this film. 01:47:13.488 --> 01:47:16.656 So there's this guy with a big hunchback. You can imagine him, can't you? 01:47:16.688 --> 01:47:20.746 Just sitting there having his sandwich and a cup of tea with his flask, 01:47:20.898 --> 01:47:23.986 and he's got blood all over his hands. He's sitting there eating his sandwich, 01:47:24.018 --> 01:47:28.186 then just gets back to. He's a bit like the 01:47:28.258 --> 01:47:31.538 morgue attendant in Braindead, just getting on with 01:47:31.554 --> 01:47:34.898 it, you know, just doing his job. Yeah, yeah. Fazed by what he's doing. 01:47:34.994 --> 01:47:38.650 But he's also, again, Eli Roth loves these obscure characters. 01:47:38.770 --> 01:47:42.370 He's kind of like the little blond, weird kung fu kid. 01:47:42.450 --> 01:47:45.532 Just a random guy just thrown into the film. He's got his 01:47:45.556 --> 01:47:49.012 little whistle, his little hunchback, and he just cracks on with it. He just cuts 01:47:49.036 --> 01:47:49.880 bodies up. 01:47:51.900 --> 01:47:55.436 You can imagine him putting on a bit of Beyonce, if you could, like, 01:47:55.468 --> 01:47:59.108 you put a ring on it. That songs 01:47:59.124 --> 01:48:02.772 the bodies, doing little twelves and stuff around, flipping the. 01:48:02.836 --> 01:48:06.492 He's probably got like a little basketball hoop, flipping fucking body parts 01:48:06.516 --> 01:48:09.930 in it into the race bin. Brilliant. Now Paxton's hit at himself. 01:48:10.020 --> 01:48:13.342 Where's he hiding himself, Gav? He hid himself on a trolley 01:48:13.366 --> 01:48:16.662 full of bodies while he's. While his dead mate stares at 01:48:16.686 --> 01:48:20.526 him. Brilliant. Now, another funny Eli 01:48:20.558 --> 01:48:24.214 Roth bit of ridiculousness is seven hand falling off 01:48:24.222 --> 01:48:27.646 the trolley. Yep, but it works. It just adds a bit of 01:48:27.678 --> 01:48:31.558 tension. I love the fact that he's stuck on the trolley and 01:48:31.574 --> 01:48:34.958 he can't push. The trolley along over and 01:48:34.974 --> 01:48:39.260 over and over again. So it's so subtle. It's brilliant. 01:48:39.300 --> 01:48:44.116 It really is. Isn't there a film where someone 01:48:44.228 --> 01:48:46.764 locks a body in a boot and, like, a hand sticking out the boot and 01:48:46.772 --> 01:48:49.668 he slams it about four or five times before he, like, decides to pop the 01:48:49.684 --> 01:48:53.052 hand back in the boot? I spent as fucking three or four movies, 01:48:53.236 --> 01:48:56.724 those gags. More than three or four, probably many movies. 01:48:56.772 --> 01:49:00.332 Yeah. Well, it's hilarious. While he's on the trolley, he spots his 01:49:00.356 --> 01:49:04.074 two severed fingers because he's picked them up, and he drops them again and 01:49:04.202 --> 01:49:07.490 he picks fingers. 01:49:07.610 --> 01:49:10.866 He wants to figure, fuck it, I want my fingers back. And he loses 01:49:10.898 --> 01:49:14.230 the guy. Picks him up and just puts him in a little tray. 01:49:14.530 --> 01:49:17.070 He's pissed off about that, so he picks up a hammer. 01:49:18.170 --> 01:49:21.538 Yeah. He smacks this, smacks this guy over the back of the head. Managed to 01:49:21.554 --> 01:49:25.082 get away, goes up to, like, some room, looks outside and 01:49:25.106 --> 01:49:28.242 sees who we thought earlier when we might. Well, 01:49:28.306 --> 01:49:32.146 I was myself questioning, is the cops trustworthy 01:49:32.178 --> 01:49:36.082 or not? No, they're fucking not. They're outside chatting 01:49:36.106 --> 01:49:39.330 away to the guys there, and they just drive 01:49:39.370 --> 01:49:43.338 off Mitty. They might not be, but it's gonna. Be a really stupid police 01:49:43.394 --> 01:49:47.074 home. It's gonna be a stupid policeman. To think all these limousines, 01:49:47.242 --> 01:49:51.250 an abandoned warehouse, are there for no 01:49:51.290 --> 01:49:54.660 reason at all would be very silly. So, yes, the cops are involved. 01:49:54.780 --> 01:49:58.108 So while that's happening, this is when this has been about 01:49:58.164 --> 01:50:01.196 15 minutes, probably longer in real time, 01:50:01.308 --> 01:50:04.564 but in the film, it's been about ten or 15 minutes since Paxton 01:50:04.612 --> 01:50:07.940 got out of that room. And the chainsaw is 01:50:07.980 --> 01:50:11.540 still running on the stomach of this guy. So the guard 01:50:11.580 --> 01:50:13.892 goes in because he's like something weird. He goes in there and he's like, 01:50:13.916 --> 01:50:17.732 what the fuck's going on in here? Yeah, and I've got a note here 01:50:17.796 --> 01:50:21.554 that just says four words in capital letter. The bodyguards 01:50:21.682 --> 01:50:24.778 are huge. They are pretty big. 01:50:24.954 --> 01:50:28.402 Fucking huge. Giant european guys. 01:50:28.466 --> 01:50:31.690 How many weeds. Great in a action film, wouldn't they. 01:50:31.730 --> 01:50:35.218 Would reckon, for Weetabix? Five. I reckon some of them are five, 01:50:35.274 --> 01:50:39.154 Gav. Five weebly, with a sliced banana 01:50:39.202 --> 01:50:42.714 on. It out there, man. Out. Fucking crazy. Off the 01:50:42.762 --> 01:50:46.652 chain. So he goes up 01:50:46.676 --> 01:50:50.080 to the changing room and puts on an outfit, 01:50:50.380 --> 01:50:53.244 some leather gloves to cover up the fact he's lost his fingers. He's in a 01:50:53.252 --> 01:50:56.440 lot of pain. He's got. He put sausages up there. 01:50:57.100 --> 01:51:00.932 Definitely. I would. He's got. Put two other two floppy fingers 01:51:00.956 --> 01:51:04.228 on the glove. Yeah, but you see he does have floppy fingers, 01:51:04.244 --> 01:51:07.560 doesn't he? No one's gonna look. Now. This is where he. 01:51:07.980 --> 01:51:11.556 This is my most sinister scene in the film, 01:51:11.628 --> 01:51:13.938 is this american guy. Brilliant, 01:51:14.074 --> 01:51:17.306 brilliant psycho. Well, 01:51:17.338 --> 01:51:20.250 this is what you do for part two, because it's a part two. You have 01:51:20.290 --> 01:51:24.394 two american psychos, and they are the basis of the second part. 01:51:24.482 --> 01:51:28.026 The second movie, though, there's one guy very much like this, but he is greatest 01:51:28.058 --> 01:51:31.530 guy. What's he like now? He's just. He's. 01:51:31.610 --> 01:51:35.362 He's on. He's like Charlie Sheen on loads of crack and coat. 01:51:35.386 --> 01:51:38.360 He's just like, how are you gonna do it? Let me ask you a question. 01:51:38.450 --> 01:51:41.028 And he wants to know. No, don't tell me. Yes, do tell me. Are you 01:51:41.044 --> 01:51:42.772 going to kill him? Are you going to do that? And then he sort of 01:51:42.796 --> 01:51:45.596 says, I've done everything. I've done this, I've done that. And there's a great line 01:51:45.628 --> 01:51:48.924 I've written down here. He says, I fuck a million women. I've done this. 01:51:48.972 --> 01:51:51.828 I couldn't even tell you the color of the tits the last girl I fucked. 01:51:51.924 --> 01:51:54.800 And I just thought, the color of the tits? 01:51:55.100 --> 01:51:58.972 The color of the tits. I wrote it down because I thought, that's such 01:51:58.996 --> 01:52:03.140 a weird Eli Rothline. I couldn't even tell you the colour of her tits. 01:52:03.180 --> 01:52:06.244 It was. Yeah, it was quite. It was quite weird. But anyway, he's part of 01:52:06.252 --> 01:52:09.548 this. But things like dialogue, like, 01:52:09.684 --> 01:52:13.084 definitely tells you the sort of character he is, though, doesn't it? He's a real. 01:52:13.132 --> 01:52:16.480 He's. He doesn't care about people in the slightest. 01:52:18.060 --> 01:52:21.436 Yeah, yeah. So he then sort of says, 01:52:21.548 --> 01:52:24.932 accidentally reveals the plot to us and to Paxton, which is 01:52:24.956 --> 01:52:28.588 basically that there's a website that you can join and you can kill. 01:52:28.724 --> 01:52:31.716 Torture them for money. You got to make going out of him for a night 01:52:31.748 --> 01:52:34.502 on the piss. If he said, I'm paying, guys, 01:52:34.636 --> 01:52:38.258 it'd probably be quite a fun, eventful night. Yeah, but you'd probably end 01:52:38.274 --> 01:52:41.874 up accidentally killing a prostitute, like in very bad things. It's quite 01:52:41.922 --> 01:52:45.202 possible. So this guy, he sort of 01:52:45.226 --> 01:52:47.946 says, how should I do it? Should I do it quick? Should I do it 01:52:48.058 --> 01:52:51.018 slowly? And Patterson says, do it quickly. He's like, 01:52:51.034 --> 01:52:54.762 yeah, he's fucking right. And he throws the gun down, and that's Patrick's 01:52:54.786 --> 01:52:58.666 gun then. So he grabs the gun, and next thing 01:52:58.698 --> 01:53:02.334 we see is Paxton escaping. Fucking great. Well done, Paxton. You've got. 01:53:02.462 --> 01:53:06.302 Until he hears something. Don't go back. Don't go back. 01:53:06.366 --> 01:53:10.758 What are you doing? Little japanese friend screaming, 01:53:10.814 --> 01:53:13.606 crying for help. You don't go back. You don't go back. 01:53:13.758 --> 01:53:17.158 I personally, it's lovely girl. Fuck her. 01:53:17.334 --> 01:53:20.850 Fuck her. I would have thought I'd left her. Fuck her. Fuck her. 01:53:21.470 --> 01:53:24.734 But now, this is probably the most infamous scene 01:53:24.782 --> 01:53:28.636 in the film. This is again the scene like the sore with the foot cutting 01:53:28.668 --> 01:53:32.156 seam. All your mates told you about it? Everyone talks about it. 01:53:32.188 --> 01:53:36.020 It's shit. The effects are terrible. It's not great, 01:53:36.060 --> 01:53:39.444 is it? It's awful. It's really, 01:53:39.532 --> 01:53:43.052 really bad. What's going on? Our american friend is 01:53:43.076 --> 01:53:46.364 taking a blowtorch to the poor japanese girl's face 01:53:46.532 --> 01:53:49.800 and her eyeball is hanging out on the optic nerve, 01:53:50.500 --> 01:53:54.040 which looks terrible. Like you say, gav, there's no hole. I don't know why. 01:53:54.480 --> 01:53:58.240 They've done a really bad job. It's just literally all filled 01:53:58.280 --> 01:54:01.152 in so you can see it's like plastic. I didn't realize how shit it was 01:54:01.176 --> 01:54:04.232 until this time watching it, I thought. Oh, I know shit. When the first time 01:54:04.256 --> 01:54:07.152 watching cinema, it's very much planet terror type style. 01:54:07.216 --> 01:54:10.380 But didn't you CGI, though? No, no, 01:54:10.720 --> 01:54:14.816 no. But I expect better from, you know, Roth, planet error knows 01:54:14.848 --> 01:54:17.232 when it's done, that sort of stuff. But it does it because it's drilled tongue 01:54:17.256 --> 01:54:20.192 in cheek. Tarantino again, by the way. But, 01:54:20.216 --> 01:54:23.192 um. Yeah, it's really bad. Awful. 01:54:23.256 --> 01:54:26.600 It's such a shame because it's quite a climb. It's not climatic. 01:54:26.680 --> 01:54:30.080 It's quite a large scene towards the end. It should 01:54:30.120 --> 01:54:33.488 be better. So sorry about that, guy. Sorry about that. But, yeah, gone. Carry on. 01:54:33.504 --> 01:54:36.952 What goes on? So the American says, get your own fucking room. 01:54:37.016 --> 01:54:40.600 It's very much like the scene where those are. Hey, buddy, get your own 01:54:40.640 --> 01:54:43.832 fucking room, man. But it's almost like the scene in the brothel where the woman's 01:54:43.856 --> 01:54:46.594 like, if you can't come in here unless you paid, it's almost like. Like that. 01:54:46.642 --> 01:54:49.830 But it's a different type of entertainment. Oh, 01:54:50.410 --> 01:54:53.938 so is. It's like, yeah, maybe we're in, like, the second half 01:54:53.954 --> 01:54:57.546 of the film is really the first half, but in just a real full 01:54:57.578 --> 01:54:58.310 on way. 01:55:01.170 --> 01:55:04.190 I think Leatherface just ran by extremely. 01:55:04.570 --> 01:55:07.658 It's like a leatherface sprint going on out there. You got Freddie, 01:55:07.714 --> 01:55:10.910 Michael, there's a race going on. Jesus. 01:55:11.820 --> 01:55:16.124 Anyway, Paxton shoots the american guy and then 01:55:16.172 --> 01:55:19.240 makes the most curious decision I've ever seen. 01:55:19.580 --> 01:55:22.748 This girl is saying, help me, help me. And he's saying, what you want me 01:55:22.764 --> 01:55:26.196 to do? She's there with her eyeball hanging out of her eye, rather than just 01:55:26.228 --> 01:55:29.844 helping her up and getting out decides, well, I guess what we'll do is 01:55:29.892 --> 01:55:33.560 we will cut your fucking optic nerve and cut your eyeball off. 01:55:34.020 --> 01:55:37.052 Look, love, it's getting in the way. 01:55:37.156 --> 01:55:40.730 It's gonna be dangling back and forth in front your face, knocking their I everywhere. 01:55:40.850 --> 01:55:44.330 You don't need that. If it's working. If it's 01:55:44.370 --> 01:55:48.258 working. Look. Look what you're doing. You're just seeing the ground. Your proportions could 01:55:48.274 --> 01:55:51.618 be off. You could be running around in circles. She can see through it then. 01:55:51.674 --> 01:55:55.122 That's what I'm saying. Maybe, yeah. So she's. It's just 01:55:55.146 --> 01:55:58.442 swinging back and forth along the next. Her feet. That's no good, 01:55:58.466 --> 01:56:01.790 is it? Um. He cuts it off. Yeah. 01:56:02.650 --> 01:56:05.658 White shit comes out of it. What could have tied it a knot or tried 01:56:05.674 --> 01:56:09.468 to push it back in? My notes say cuts the optic nerve in 01:56:09.484 --> 01:56:14.036 brackets. Why can 01:56:14.068 --> 01:56:17.276 we get into it, offend people and freak people out? 01:56:17.308 --> 01:56:19.628 Can we get an interview of Eli and we just ask that one question? 01:56:19.684 --> 01:56:23.044 We just want one question. Why, Leo? Why does 01:56:23.092 --> 01:56:26.396 gangston cut the fucking optic nerve? Eli, I don't give a shit about anything else 01:56:26.428 --> 01:56:29.868 in your career. Tell me that. Good. He not got some cello tape 01:56:30.004 --> 01:56:33.720 taped. Up, like a bandage over it or something? 01:56:34.300 --> 01:56:38.100 They would have been able to save that. You bandage 01:56:38.140 --> 01:56:41.396 it up and tape it up, then it hangs kind of over the top like 01:56:41.428 --> 01:56:44.132 that. Like a slug, like with the antenna. On top of you, but kind of 01:56:44.156 --> 01:56:47.100 drooping down slightly. But you have to keep poking it up a bit. That way 01:56:47.140 --> 01:56:50.920 she can see what's coming because she's got like a periscope eye. Then you got. 01:56:53.780 --> 01:56:57.348 And you can sort of like, you know, put around the corner. She can put 01:56:57.364 --> 01:57:01.186 her eye around the corner. Oh, there's someone coming. Hang on a minute. When. 01:57:01.218 --> 01:57:04.082 When they were on the train station, hiding behind the crates, 01:57:04.186 --> 01:57:07.458 she could have poked her eye out. I'll just put 01:57:07.474 --> 01:57:11.042 my eye around the corner. Oh, hang on. That's on 01:57:11.066 --> 01:57:13.430 a film, actually, isn't it? There's a film. 01:57:15.250 --> 01:57:18.170 There's a film by what's his name, dog Soldiers, director, 01:57:18.330 --> 01:57:21.546 where the girl's got a cyber eye. And she 01:57:21.578 --> 01:57:24.230 actually does that. She looks around, she rolls it out. 01:57:25.780 --> 01:57:28.760 Tuesday, doomsday. Oh, I don't remember. 01:57:29.940 --> 01:57:33.060 She pops out now and again. Pops it around corners. Yeah, it's like that. 01:57:33.100 --> 01:57:35.760 So that's where Ei Ross should have gone for this. 01:57:36.500 --> 01:57:40.580 Instead, Paxton fucking cuts it off and the milk shit come 01:57:40.660 --> 01:57:44.644 flies out of her eye everywhere. With Valentine's 01:57:44.692 --> 01:57:47.972 all over this shit. Yeah, man. So her eye jizzes because 01:57:47.996 --> 01:57:51.462 it's Valentine's or I. Jesus. She noticed. She. Oh, yeah, they cut it. Then they 01:57:51.486 --> 01:57:54.646 get. Then they go to the train station. Now this with here 01:57:54.678 --> 01:57:56.850 we get very soon, we get a very, um, 01:57:57.750 --> 01:58:01.462 drag me to hell moment, climax. But we won't go there yet 01:58:01.486 --> 01:58:04.850 because we've got this great scene first where they're driving along. 01:58:05.670 --> 01:58:08.726 Oh, God. A van 01:58:08.758 --> 01:58:11.966 blocks things like beep, beep, beep, beep. The van pulls away and he sees the 01:58:11.998 --> 01:58:15.606 two women from the hostel talking to Alexi, 01:58:15.638 --> 01:58:18.552 the guy from Amsterdam who sent them there. 01:58:18.696 --> 01:58:21.620 Yes. And now this scene. 01:58:23.680 --> 01:58:26.832 Now this is an english audience. English audiences in 01:58:26.856 --> 01:58:32.380 cinema, ladies, gentlemen, they don't really mix 01:58:32.760 --> 01:58:36.784 verbally and audibly of any sense. Apart from festival 01:58:36.912 --> 01:58:40.544 cinema goers, you mean. They don't sort of go. They don't shout out anything. 01:58:40.592 --> 01:58:44.706 There's nothing like that. I know, say american cinemas and Canadians, 01:58:44.818 --> 01:58:48.858 a little bit more vocal and that sort of thing, and appreciate stuff, which I 01:58:49.034 --> 01:58:51.642 quite agree with, because then it comes with, like, a real fun thing for going 01:58:51.666 --> 01:58:55.562 to cinema because I love it when we do a fright fest happens 01:58:55.586 --> 01:58:59.330 there. But, um, this scene got people 01:58:59.410 --> 01:59:03.162 clapping. Brilliant scene. It's what we all wanted. 01:59:03.346 --> 01:59:07.498 We were really feeling for what he'd gone through. And what 01:59:07.514 --> 01:59:10.566 does he do, Gav? Tell us what he does. He see, 01:59:10.638 --> 01:59:14.490 he's in the car driving along and then sees 01:59:14.910 --> 01:59:18.770 the two girls who have been playing him and his mate up the whole time 01:59:19.070 --> 01:59:22.422 with the dude who sent them over from 01:59:22.486 --> 01:59:26.270 Amsterdam to go there in the first place. All three of them in front 01:59:26.310 --> 01:59:29.518 of him in the middle of the road while he's driving the car. 01:59:29.574 --> 01:59:33.086 And he's a little bit angry with a one eyed girl next to him. 01:59:33.118 --> 01:59:37.396 So he just goes balls out of the acceleration 01:59:37.508 --> 01:59:41.252 and he fucking plows through. Fucking floors there and knocks 01:59:41.276 --> 01:59:44.740 them over. Such a good moment. But then. Then you think, 01:59:44.780 --> 01:59:48.140 oh, God. Fucking then one gets up, think, I should have fucking top 01:59:48.180 --> 01:59:51.508 finished them off. Elo Roth finishes them off. He puts 01:59:51.524 --> 01:59:54.660 it in reverse, goes back and does a pop over there and. He really crunches 01:59:54.700 --> 01:59:58.572 one of the girls and they really crunches over her body. It's so 01:59:58.716 --> 02:00:02.080 good. Yeah, really, really good. I'm glad that happens. 02:00:02.990 --> 02:00:06.690 Then we get another fantastic scene where 02:00:07.830 --> 02:00:11.430 they're being. So they're being chased now in this car by all the giant european 02:00:11.510 --> 02:00:14.910 hoodlums, like the big thugs from the hostel. And they find 02:00:14.950 --> 02:00:18.130 the bubble gum gang, don't they? Paxton and the japanese girl. 02:00:19.150 --> 02:00:22.518 Quite luckily, there's a huge bag of bubble gum in 02:00:22.534 --> 02:00:25.290 the car. Yeah, because the girls were chewing it in the car. Earlier. 02:00:25.750 --> 02:00:28.940 So he says to them all, well, he doesn't really say much. He's just sort 02:00:29.440 --> 02:00:31.492 of. I don't know how he tells them, but he gives them a giant bag 02:00:31.516 --> 02:00:35.640 of bubblegum in exchange for them doing what they do, which is that they block 02:00:36.340 --> 02:00:40.080 the big european bouncer thugs from the hostel, and then they 02:00:40.500 --> 02:00:44.320 cave their fucking heads in with those bricks and rocks 02:00:45.420 --> 02:00:47.892 whilst one of them is, like, giving out bubble gum to each of them. 02:00:47.916 --> 02:00:51.572 Like, go on. You throw a rock, you throw a brick. And some 02:00:51.596 --> 02:00:54.582 of the close up shots are quite horrible, 02:00:54.606 --> 02:00:58.022 aren't they? But you see that guy's skull cave right in when the brick hits 02:00:58.046 --> 02:01:01.406 him. Brilliant. It's really well done. And again, by this 02:01:01.438 --> 02:01:05.430 point, again, Roth is taking us to almost 02:01:05.510 --> 02:01:09.030 to ridiculous levels. But you're still 02:01:09.070 --> 02:01:12.846 with it because he's reigning it in enough that it's not too 02:01:12.878 --> 02:01:16.246 ridiculous, but it is a bit too like. It's almost like, oh, my God, 02:01:16.278 --> 02:01:19.454 this is crazy, what's going to happen next? But it's not too cartoony. 02:01:19.502 --> 02:01:22.762 It's just. It's everything the audience wants. What he's done here, very cleverly, 02:01:22.786 --> 02:01:25.910 is he's given the audience everything they want. 02:01:26.770 --> 02:01:30.430 He's given them the girls getting run over. He's given the bubble gum gang. 02:01:30.730 --> 02:01:33.882 We wanted to watch them do something horrible, and they're getting to do something horrible 02:01:33.946 --> 02:01:36.602 to the people that we want them to do something horrible to. So they're kicking 02:01:36.626 --> 02:01:40.018 the shit into the bounces. Bunch of little kids just chewing bubble gum, caving in 02:01:40.034 --> 02:01:43.442 their heads. Brilliant. Gets to the border, and we 02:01:43.466 --> 02:01:46.834 see a cop stopping all the cars that 02:01:46.842 --> 02:01:50.282 are trying to cross the border, and. He approaches the car. 02:01:50.346 --> 02:01:53.610 Point of view of inside the car. You know what he's thinking? He's got blood 02:01:53.650 --> 02:01:56.030 all over him, two fingers missing. Well, 02:01:57.170 --> 02:02:00.082 cop gets up to the car, looks in the car. They've run for it. 02:02:00.106 --> 02:02:03.250 It's nice because he pulled someone out of the car 02:02:03.290 --> 02:02:05.738 and kicked the shit into them in the middle of the street in front of 02:02:05.754 --> 02:02:09.010 everyone. Yeah. So he thought, well, these are corrupt cops. Let's fuck off. 02:02:09.130 --> 02:02:12.508 Yeah. They get to 02:02:12.524 --> 02:02:15.180 the train station. They run up to the train station. They go on and they 02:02:15.220 --> 02:02:18.740 notice that there's police up there looking around and they. 02:02:18.820 --> 02:02:22.316 The guys in leather jackets, a couple of the hood 02:02:22.348 --> 02:02:25.724 rats are up there as well, looking for, obviously them. 02:02:25.852 --> 02:02:28.748 They're like, shit, when's the train coming in? And they can see, okay, there's a 02:02:28.764 --> 02:02:31.988 train sort of coming. And so, 02:02:32.164 --> 02:02:35.620 oh, yeah, cheers for save me. Cheers for me. Getting me out of that torture 02:02:35.660 --> 02:02:38.308 place. You didn't need to come back with me, but you came back with me. 02:02:38.324 --> 02:02:42.372 You got me out of the torture place. Admittedly, you cut my eyeball out and 02:02:42.396 --> 02:02:45.588 cut it off. But to repay you, I don't like 02:02:45.644 --> 02:02:48.400 what you've done to me. Here comes a train. 02:02:49.020 --> 02:02:50.880 What's gonna. What am I gonna do? 02:02:52.660 --> 02:02:55.916 She sees a reflection, doesn't she? And she realizes she 02:02:55.948 --> 02:02:59.780 is fucked up in the face. And there 02:02:59.820 --> 02:03:03.920 is, dare I say, there is a stereotype of 02:03:05.040 --> 02:03:08.300 japanese people committing suicide. Honor. 02:03:08.600 --> 02:03:11.896 Do you know? I mean, you've got, like, what you call it, Harry carries it. 02:03:12.048 --> 02:03:15.260 You think that was the sort of way he was going with that? 02:03:15.840 --> 02:03:19.080 I think there's something along those lines, I suppose. 02:03:19.120 --> 02:03:22.544 I can see that. And so she just dies 02:03:22.592 --> 02:03:26.152 in front of the train. And it's quite shocking, actually. I'm seeing it at face 02:03:26.216 --> 02:03:29.220 value. I. 02:03:32.230 --> 02:03:35.650 Well, he's a real pupil of horror. Eli Roth, I must say. 02:03:35.990 --> 02:03:39.534 I know some of his jokes are getting 02:03:39.582 --> 02:03:41.290 cornier and Cornier. 02:03:44.110 --> 02:03:46.766 Ejaculation. Sorry, sorry. He. 02:03:46.958 --> 02:03:48.090 Valentine's. 02:03:48.430 --> 02:03:51.590 He's a really funny shot of. 02:03:51.630 --> 02:03:55.416 It's almost like a cum shot against temperature. 02:03:55.518 --> 02:03:58.068 We just get a shot of an old lady, she just gets splashed in the 02:03:58.084 --> 02:03:59.080 face with blood. 02:04:02.140 --> 02:04:05.476 It's like, oh, okay. Interesting. I don't know why he chose to do 02:04:05.508 --> 02:04:09.004 that. Just did so. Poor old Paxton, he's been. 02:04:09.092 --> 02:04:11.684 Been through it all now. The woman he saved has just jumped in front of 02:04:11.692 --> 02:04:15.140 a train. He gets on the train, he's got a scalpel that he stole from 02:04:15.180 --> 02:04:18.572 the hostel, and he sits there, sort of like, well, 02:04:18.636 --> 02:04:21.292 I'm almost. You know, I'm almost out of this country now. This is great. 02:04:21.316 --> 02:04:24.960 And then he hears a very familiar conversation, doesn't he? 02:04:26.180 --> 02:04:29.004 I tend to like to use my hands. Really. 02:04:29.092 --> 02:04:32.100 I feel this has a more natural feeling to it. 02:04:32.180 --> 02:04:37.220 Yeah. And it's the same guy from earlier who sort 02:04:37.720 --> 02:04:40.996 of helped. We don't know if he's to do with it. He's got the tattoo 02:04:41.068 --> 02:04:44.516 and he's basically. We do know he's do it. 02:04:44.548 --> 02:04:48.846 He was. He was. Hedgesthe was chopping up his 02:04:48.878 --> 02:04:51.366 mate, wasn't he? Packs. And of course he was. He was the one that dissected 02:04:51.398 --> 02:04:54.782 Josh. Of course he was. Yeah. He was preying on him like they didn't. 02:04:54.846 --> 02:04:58.518 That's right. So that's why does what he does. So. So it's basically. He's basically 02:04:58.574 --> 02:05:02.158 seeing again now. What? How they started off on the train originally. 02:05:02.214 --> 02:05:05.910 He's now seen it, but he's obviously probably preying on his 02:05:05.950 --> 02:05:09.902 next victim. And he probably does this regularly as well 02:05:09.926 --> 02:05:12.210 because it's almost like he's grooming these young boys, 02:05:12.960 --> 02:05:16.016 do you know, I mean, he's got that pineapple kind of pedophile look to him 02:05:16.048 --> 02:05:18.616 and the way he's talking to them and stuff. Like what he did to Josh 02:05:18.648 --> 02:05:21.976 earlier when he sort of started touching his leg. I don't know. 02:05:22.128 --> 02:05:24.220 Maybe not maybe that's just me, 02:05:25.560 --> 02:05:29.360 but, yeah, just when you think everything's done, 02:05:29.480 --> 02:05:32.512 Josh Paxton follows the guy into the. 02:05:32.536 --> 02:05:36.456 Toilets, slips him a little card, chucks. A card under 02:05:36.488 --> 02:05:40.546 the door, kicks the door in. What's the card? The card 02:05:40.578 --> 02:05:44.346 is the elite hunting, isn't it? Business card. Yeah. A lot of people got 02:05:44.378 --> 02:05:47.778 those tattoos, you know? I don't know. Anyway, you do that. 02:05:47.834 --> 02:05:51.562 I saw somebody the other day about the umbrella corporation tattoo from resident evil on 02:05:51.586 --> 02:05:54.666 them. Interesting. Yeah. 02:05:54.738 --> 02:05:57.786 He sort of throws the card under as a sort of like, I'm gonna fuck 02:05:57.818 --> 02:06:01.002 you up. It kicks the door in and fucks him up. He slits his throat, 02:06:01.026 --> 02:06:02.070 I think, doesn't he? 02:06:04.980 --> 02:06:08.468 But the skull port. He does, yeah. Yes, he does. And then he sort of 02:06:08.484 --> 02:06:12.172 drains a bit in the toilet. There's blood everywhere. And that's 02:06:12.196 --> 02:06:15.600 the end of it, isn't it? Gets no train leaves. He leaves. Yeah, 02:06:17.740 --> 02:06:21.084 that's it. Now he's in the sequel, isn't he? Yeah. He starts up 02:06:21.172 --> 02:06:24.940 in a sequel. He's got bit of a fatter face slightly, because it's 02:06:24.980 --> 02:06:27.560 made about three years later, I think. 02:06:28.620 --> 02:06:31.762 Yeah. And it starts to off of the police investigating him, talking to him. 02:06:31.786 --> 02:06:33.986 So I don't know how they caught up him. I need to watch part two 02:06:34.018 --> 02:06:37.266 again. And I did. I think I'd like to watch it again. I think I'm 02:06:37.298 --> 02:06:40.298 probably gonna watch after watching, enjoying first, I reckon my night. 02:06:40.354 --> 02:06:43.098 I'm not gonna bother with three because I thought three was really bad, to be 02:06:43.114 --> 02:06:46.554 honest. There were good parts. Three started off well and then it went shit. 02:06:46.642 --> 02:06:49.914 Three was terrible. But I liked to just probably 02:06:49.962 --> 02:06:53.618 wrap up one. I like two because it still gives you that feeling of 02:06:53.714 --> 02:06:56.938 being out on your own, like in the town when they're at that weird 02:06:56.954 --> 02:07:00.472 town with all the weird traditions. It's almost a bit wicker, man. Yeah. 02:07:00.656 --> 02:07:04.200 But anyway, one, that's how one ends. I mean, basically, the last 20 02:07:04.240 --> 02:07:08.120 minutes is just unrelentless gore, 02:07:08.240 --> 02:07:12.528 death, more and more crazy, ridiculous situations. 02:07:12.584 --> 02:07:14.780 Children, bubblegum, 02:07:15.360 --> 02:07:17.832 prostitutes getting run over, eyeballs, 02:07:18.016 --> 02:07:22.016 bouncers, train suicides, old lady jizz shots, 02:07:22.208 --> 02:07:24.946 strangulation and scalpel across the throat. 02:07:25.098 --> 02:07:28.306 And that's the final 20 minutes of the film and you, 02:07:28.378 --> 02:07:32.138 when the credits roll, you're like. I find myself sort 02:07:32.154 --> 02:07:35.410 of like, oh, that was a ride, a big ride. 02:07:35.530 --> 02:07:39.258 Yes. Good. It's a really good film. It's very enjoyable, isn't it, for the. 02:07:39.394 --> 02:07:42.570 Was it, is it 90 minutes? Uh, it's about that, 02:07:42.610 --> 02:07:46.870 yeah. It's an enjoyable film. It holds up really, really well 02:07:47.330 --> 02:07:50.852 and you feel like you've seen it all before. 02:07:50.956 --> 02:07:54.364 But actually this was the first one, really, of this 02:07:54.412 --> 02:07:56.920 type of torture porn. 02:07:57.780 --> 02:08:01.396 There's been a lot of films since that have copied it and tried to do 02:08:01.428 --> 02:08:04.960 things like it. For example, I watched 02:08:06.020 --> 02:08:09.100 about a year ago, watched the remake of I spit on your grave, and last 02:08:09.140 --> 02:08:12.308 week I watched two out of three, which is the new versions. 02:08:12.404 --> 02:08:16.062 However, they are quite good films. Unless, say, weirdly, I'm not a fan 02:08:16.086 --> 02:08:19.198 of rape in films. And obviously those films revolve around a terrible 02:08:19.254 --> 02:08:22.502 gang rape of a woman who then enacts revenge on all the men in it. 02:08:22.526 --> 02:08:26.198 That's what those films are all about. But they are a bit like hostel in 02:08:26.214 --> 02:08:29.770 that she then gets them into terrible situations and does terrible things to them. 02:08:30.270 --> 02:08:33.422 Not bad films. And there's loads and loads of other films I'm not going to 02:08:33.446 --> 02:08:36.942 list here, but hostel is definitely the number one. I think it's the kind 02:08:36.966 --> 02:08:41.036 of king of it, really. And if Eli Roth, even if cabin fever isn't 02:08:41.148 --> 02:08:44.276 the one that he's remembered for, which is my favorite, he'll always be 02:08:44.308 --> 02:08:48.404 remembered for doing hostile. I think you've got a fucking 02:08:48.452 --> 02:08:51.820 giant. Poster of it, haven't you, when the movie came 02:08:51.860 --> 02:08:55.892 out? You know when you get those bus stop posters? 02:08:55.956 --> 02:08:59.532 They're really big ones. I literally drove by one night finishing 02:08:59.556 --> 02:09:02.788 work, so I work quite late. And I was driving by and 02:09:02.884 --> 02:09:06.718 saw there's a little catch out on a poster. 02:09:06.734 --> 02:09:08.998 And I thought, that can't be right. So the next night I drove by and 02:09:09.014 --> 02:09:12.614 it's like, again. So I just pulled over instantly 02:09:12.782 --> 02:09:16.270 and pulled out and yanked the whole thing 02:09:16.310 --> 02:09:20.182 down. And, yeah, I have massive, massive, massive hostel posters 02:09:20.246 --> 02:09:23.102 rolled up in a tube now because it's too big to go anywhere. Well, 02:09:23.206 --> 02:09:26.742 yeah, I remember when you. Before you 02:09:26.766 --> 02:09:30.174 had Daisy and Eli, obviously. You had downstairs studio. 02:09:30.222 --> 02:09:33.314 Yeah, yeah. Used to have it up in there, didn't you? It took up one 02:09:33.362 --> 02:09:36.682 whole wall. It's ridiculous. Yeah, 02:09:36.746 --> 02:09:39.890 but, yeah, it's a great poster, but yeah, it's a good film. I give this 02:09:39.970 --> 02:09:42.882 big, two giant thumbs up. 02:09:42.906 --> 02:09:46.202 Like a real giant man who's got big thumbs. Put them up. 02:09:46.226 --> 02:09:49.990 Yes, I give this definitely a Paxton severed fingers. 02:09:50.290 --> 02:09:54.050 I give this. It's a great film. I'm sure most 02:09:54.130 --> 02:09:55.830 horror fans have seen it. 02:09:56.780 --> 02:10:00.080 Good, because it deserves to be seen. And it's. 02:10:00.620 --> 02:10:04.700 It verges, it's, I think, where a lot of torture 02:10:04.740 --> 02:10:08.060 porn, and I use that term loosely, films have gone wrong since is. 02:10:08.180 --> 02:10:11.236 They've got too gratuitous. So, for example, 02:10:11.268 --> 02:10:14.708 we both said certain scenes make us feel sick in some of the saw 02:10:14.764 --> 02:10:18.148 movies. Yeah. Now I want to see the gore. You know, I'm a 02:10:18.164 --> 02:10:21.612 horror fan, but I don't want to be made to feel too sick or 02:10:21.636 --> 02:10:25.222 uncomfortable. And I think hostile, though, there are moments where it's. 02:10:25.366 --> 02:10:28.806 It's gross, it's never too realistic. It's always 02:10:28.918 --> 02:10:32.390 veers on the right side of. I don't want to say cartoony, 02:10:32.430 --> 02:10:36.238 because it's not cartoony, but do you know what I mean? It's never too surgically, 02:10:36.334 --> 02:10:40.350 like, medically accurate. It's just a bit crazy. 02:10:40.430 --> 02:10:44.222 But horror films should be. I don't want too much medical accuracy in my 02:10:44.246 --> 02:10:48.022 horror films. Otherwise it becomes. It just 02:10:48.046 --> 02:10:51.712 becomes like watching a documentary about a hospital or something. I don't want to see 02:10:51.736 --> 02:10:55.456 that. I want to see a ridiculous scenario, someone getting 02:10:55.488 --> 02:10:58.992 killed, you know what I mean? But yeah, hostel's fucking 02:10:59.016 --> 02:11:01.740 great. It's a great movie. All right, well, 02:11:02.360 --> 02:11:05.872 tell you what, we should rock a little advert now and 02:11:05.936 --> 02:11:09.168 then. Go into a bit of a world of estranged. You think? I believe 02:11:09.224 --> 02:11:12.744 we should. I think we've got a very nice 02:11:12.792 --> 02:11:16.324 valentine, sexy romantic story to talk about. 02:11:16.452 --> 02:11:19.660 Oh, it's very sexy, isn't it? Right, let's get out of here and then come 02:11:19.700 --> 02:11:24.988 back in a little moment. We also start up with Tristan's little 02:11:25.084 --> 02:11:28.556 next little message comment thing for World of strange. So be 02:11:28.588 --> 02:11:31.684 back royal soon. An evil Dead tv show? No way. 02:11:31.812 --> 02:11:35.572 Negan is coming to the Walking Dead. That's awesome. Don't you guys think a 02:11:35.596 --> 02:11:39.340 werewolf series is long overdue? Oh, hello there. 02:11:39.460 --> 02:11:42.190 Are you looking for coverage of horror on the small screen that you can't find 02:11:42.230 --> 02:11:45.702 on any other podcast? Then welcome to Evil Episodes podcast, where. 02:11:45.726 --> 02:11:49.406 We take an in depth look at horror around the dial, covering everything from today's 02:11:49.438 --> 02:11:52.918 hits like the Walking Dead, American. Horror Story, and the Strain, as well. 02:11:52.934 --> 02:11:56.558 As looking back into the tv horror. Vault to discuss anthologies like tales from. 02:11:56.574 --> 02:12:00.406 The crypt, Monsters, masters of horror. Yeah, but do any of those shows 02:12:00.438 --> 02:12:03.910 have werewolves in them? What movies will become a tv series next? 02:12:04.030 --> 02:12:07.448 Just how many more seasons will every CW show? Where would 02:12:07.464 --> 02:12:10.856 they put some damn werewolves on tv? Tune in to evil 02:12:10.888 --> 02:12:14.864 episodes podcast for all your horror on television needs and more. I need 02:12:14.912 --> 02:12:18.496 werewolves. Hey, did I mention how Lovecraftian all this 02:12:18.528 --> 02:12:19.420 actually is? 02:12:22.880 --> 02:12:25.500 Hi, welcome back to World of the strange. 02:12:32.810 --> 02:12:35.706 Ah, Bill. Cheers for that. Thanks, Bill. 02:12:35.858 --> 02:12:39.698 You do know, Bill, that on your show once you had 02:12:39.714 --> 02:12:43.394 a woman that predicted this Valentine's day 02:12:43.562 --> 02:12:46.850 of 2016, that the world's gonna end. 02:12:47.010 --> 02:12:50.298 Bummer. Yeah, Valentine's day. 02:12:50.354 --> 02:12:53.402 Bummer. Let's hope that that doesn't happen. Anyway, thanks that, 02:12:53.426 --> 02:12:57.270 Bill. Before we get into a world of strange, world of the strange, 02:12:58.100 --> 02:13:02.100 we have our second, or, sorry, third little 02:13:02.220 --> 02:13:05.900 message from Tristan, who is commented saying, according to the monster 02:13:05.940 --> 02:13:09.252 squad, Wolfman has nods. Nods being 02:13:09.316 --> 02:13:12.680 testicles, wolf man being the werewolf. 02:13:13.100 --> 02:13:17.372 But is there any photographic proof? Hmm. I've not 02:13:17.436 --> 02:13:21.160 seen photographic proof of a werewolf's testicles. Have you? 02:13:22.180 --> 02:13:26.320 I honestly can't say I have, Gav. But I have seen 02:13:27.060 --> 02:13:31.012 a photograph of a supposed werewolf. Used to 02:13:31.036 --> 02:13:34.484 me, but it was shit. Yes. You won't be able to see testicles that, 02:13:34.532 --> 02:13:38.412 would you? There's no testicles, but can 02:13:38.436 --> 02:13:40.840 lick his own balls. Wolf man can as well. 02:13:42.060 --> 02:13:44.200 Yeah. No, absolutely. 02:13:45.260 --> 02:13:47.960 So Tristan on that one, all I. Would say, really, 02:13:48.620 --> 02:13:52.462 I would say Wolfman does have nods. He licks 02:13:52.486 --> 02:13:56.694 them. Unless, of course, he's been neutered. But there's no proof of that. 02:13:56.822 --> 02:13:59.998 There isn't any proof yet. Who's gonna new to a wolf? 02:14:00.134 --> 02:14:03.982 Wolf man. No one owns Wolf man. It's a man. 02:14:04.086 --> 02:14:07.662 He's owns him. Yeah, but Dracula's 02:14:07.686 --> 02:14:11.438 not gonna nod him d nard him. Should we say? He might do. 02:14:11.494 --> 02:14:14.890 He might be fed up with him humping everything in the house, in the castle. 02:14:15.600 --> 02:14:19.008 For God's sake, Wolf man, I must cut your balls off. But he cuts 02:14:19.024 --> 02:14:22.768 his balls off and he gets Frankenstein's 02:14:22.784 --> 02:14:25.940 monster to do it because he's like, skip strong, I guess. 02:14:26.400 --> 02:14:29.104 And then they sort of clamp his balls and he becomes a bit of a 02:14:29.112 --> 02:14:31.952 sadder. Wolf man really sort of stops humping everything, 02:14:32.016 --> 02:14:36.340 but so loses the wheel to sort of chase frisbees around. 02:14:38.160 --> 02:14:42.092 Okay, so back to Valentine's Day. Cheers. That. Three coins. 02:14:42.156 --> 02:14:44.964 Thank you for that. Thanks to everyone that sent in a question. And. Yeah, 02:14:44.972 --> 02:14:47.548 that's brilliant. We do that next episode, we do a little live thing, and everyone 02:14:47.604 --> 02:14:50.760 pops up. We'll drop you down. 02:14:51.660 --> 02:14:55.000 Yeah. So this is our romantic world of strange. Now, 02:14:55.940 --> 02:14:59.260 I've before gone on dates 02:14:59.300 --> 02:15:01.996 with girls, and I've said to them, do you want to go out for some 02:15:02.028 --> 02:15:05.284 food? And I've gone out for food and stuff, you know, I've done. I have 02:15:05.332 --> 02:15:08.880 done that sort of thing. It's a pretty common thing, Valentine's, isn't it? 02:15:09.000 --> 02:15:13.608 Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. I not gone 02:15:13.664 --> 02:15:17.496 to the park and eaten out, so to speak, 02:15:17.648 --> 02:15:20.776 at the park. Like, not a takeaway, but slightly 02:15:20.808 --> 02:15:24.408 different. And I'm not talking about sexual time with the lady friend 02:15:24.464 --> 02:15:26.980 when I say eaten out, but I'm saying, like, 02:15:28.240 --> 02:15:31.832 established. That because I was envisioning you in. The park 02:15:31.976 --> 02:15:35.348 getting arrested. Like, what's he doing in the park? Why are you doing that in 02:15:35.364 --> 02:15:38.788 the park? But this is 02:15:38.804 --> 02:15:41.940 a different type of romantic meal. Now, what happened, 02:15:42.020 --> 02:15:45.668 Dan? All right, well, this takes place in good old Central 02:15:45.764 --> 02:15:49.452 park in New York. Okay? So, you know, we're all 02:15:49.476 --> 02:15:53.320 familiar with this. This is where Peter Venkman caught a jogger once. 02:15:53.660 --> 02:15:57.092 A ghostly jogger. So a New 02:15:57.116 --> 02:16:01.222 York couple. Yeah, hi. As usual, on methamphetamines. 02:16:01.286 --> 02:16:04.662 There they go. They're always high on something. They were arrested on 02:16:04.686 --> 02:16:08.350 Sunday after the police received 911 02:16:08.430 --> 02:16:11.870 call, several 911 calls saying that they were harassing 02:16:11.910 --> 02:16:15.494 people in the heart in Central park. So I won't say their 02:16:15.542 --> 02:16:19.078 names, but the man was 32 and his girlfriend 02:16:19.094 --> 02:16:22.694 was 23. Yeah. And they were reported by several 02:16:22.742 --> 02:16:26.620 people, several phone calls as acting odd, shouting at people, people harassing people 02:16:27.080 --> 02:16:30.304 in the park. They were screaming, jumping up and down, 02:16:30.392 --> 02:16:34.760 spinning around in circles. That's the methamphetamines for you. So witnesses 02:16:34.800 --> 02:16:38.144 say that the strange couple headed towards the edge of the park and then 02:16:38.232 --> 02:16:41.712 quickly disappeared. The police turned up and they started searching the 02:16:41.736 --> 02:16:45.420 park. And after about half an hour, they found the couple, 02:16:45.760 --> 02:16:49.888 and they found them in the bushes, crouching down over 02:16:49.944 --> 02:16:53.122 a homeless Mandev. And the 02:16:53.146 --> 02:16:56.778 policeman says, we found a couple that met the description of the 911 02:16:56.834 --> 02:17:00.666 calls we've been receiving. We identified ourselves and 02:17:00.698 --> 02:17:04.146 asked them to turn around and stand up. And when 02:17:04.178 --> 02:17:07.990 they did, their faces were covered with blood, 02:17:08.490 --> 02:17:11.110 and the homeless man was crying out for help. 02:17:12.130 --> 02:17:16.070 They'd already eaten off every single one of his fingers, 02:17:16.739 --> 02:17:20.051 and they were beginning to chew off his toes when we arrived at the 02:17:20.075 --> 02:17:24.119 scene. You've gone quiet. 02:17:25.339 --> 02:17:28.599 It's just a weird one, isn't it? So what was what? 02:17:30.019 --> 02:17:33.635 I love that. I love your face. You're just for the people, obviously, for listeners, 02:17:33.667 --> 02:17:36.675 you can't see Gavin. Now, when I finished that sentence, 02:17:36.747 --> 02:17:40.379 I looked at him, and his mouth was just wide open. Just looking 02:17:40.419 --> 02:17:43.582 at me like, ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. So due 02:17:43.606 --> 02:17:47.118 to the severity of the situation, the cop says they had no 02:17:47.174 --> 02:17:49.530 choice but to taser the couple. 02:17:53.310 --> 02:17:56.390 We didn't know if they were armed or if they would attack us as well, 02:17:56.510 --> 02:18:00.430 so we tasered both of them. But they still started lunging towards us, 02:18:00.470 --> 02:18:03.990 almost like they were zombies. But that'll be the drugs. So two other 02:18:04.030 --> 02:18:07.765 officers use their tasers as well. So they got tasered by four different tasers. 02:18:07.837 --> 02:18:11.077 They're still coming at them. Eventually they fell to the ground and 02:18:11.093 --> 02:18:14.009 they were subdued. The homeless man was rushed to hospital. 02:18:14.669 --> 02:18:18.341 He's in stable condition, apparently, but he's lost all ten of his fingers and 02:18:18.405 --> 02:18:21.317 four of his toes. Oh, 02:18:21.333 --> 02:18:24.645 so they were just going for a finger buffet? Finger buffet, 02:18:24.677 --> 02:18:25.889 gav. You got it. 02:18:27.469 --> 02:18:30.997 So the couple are being held on no 02:18:31.053 --> 02:18:35.032 bond under mental evaluation. According to a police report, the couple 02:18:35.056 --> 02:18:38.392 claimed they were hungry and they hadn't eaten for five days. And they 02:18:38.416 --> 02:18:42.256 say they had no choice but to eat the homeless man since he had nothing 02:18:42.288 --> 02:18:43.500 going for him anyway. 02:18:45.880 --> 02:18:49.136 Fuck it out. That wasn't all serious. So why did you. 02:18:49.168 --> 02:18:52.192 Do you know what? Why did you do what you did? Oh, come on. 02:18:52.216 --> 02:18:55.128 He had nothing going for him and we hadn't eaten for five days. What the 02:18:55.144 --> 02:18:58.240 fuck do you want me to do, starve? I think it's more like a case 02:18:58.280 --> 02:19:01.682 of, well, we. What, so did you. 02:19:01.786 --> 02:19:04.762 You just decided he had nothing going for him? How do you know that? 02:19:04.866 --> 02:19:08.426 He could have been a positive. And then she said, 02:19:08.458 --> 02:19:11.674 well, we actually did sit down and chat to him for 1520 minutes 02:19:11.762 --> 02:19:15.098 and he just didn't have a good outlook on life anymore and he was kind 02:19:15.114 --> 02:19:18.362 of fed up. He's been alcoholic, his wife left him for another man, lost his 02:19:18.386 --> 02:19:21.602 kids, blah, blah, blah. So we're like, well, why don't 02:19:21.626 --> 02:19:24.772 we eat his fingers and his toes? We gave each 02:19:24.826 --> 02:19:28.448 over the fingers and toes. We. After they eat in the toes, what they do 02:19:28.464 --> 02:19:31.856 that? It is balls and dick. I don't know, because they're going for the real 02:19:32.008 --> 02:19:33.140 petty things. 02:19:35.440 --> 02:19:38.616 Yeah, they were done. Ears, probably unknowns, I suppose, but, like. 02:19:38.648 --> 02:19:42.216 The poor guy, right? They're eating him live. Like, why isn't he fighting back? 02:19:42.288 --> 02:19:45.984 Like, they're just biting his fingers off. Like actual fucking cannibals. 02:19:46.072 --> 02:19:49.280 That's. You would be in shock, though, if you got a person on 02:19:49.320 --> 02:19:52.890 both of your hands. Maybe you should slip wakes up. That's what they look like, 02:19:52.930 --> 02:19:56.418 Gav. They don't look like an attractive 02:19:56.474 --> 02:20:00.070 couple. They look like they're high on methamphetamine. Um, 02:20:00.850 --> 02:20:04.930 they said, I've got high levels 02:20:04.970 --> 02:20:08.482 of methamphetamine. Don't judge me. Don't judge me for being a person that 02:20:08.506 --> 02:20:11.626 judges people. Okay, then. I've got a feeling. 02:20:11.698 --> 02:20:15.186 I don't think those guys have anything going for them, 02:20:15.218 --> 02:20:18.352 though. Oh, should we eat their fingers, Gavin? Well, I'm not gonna eat 02:20:18.376 --> 02:20:21.664 their fingers. I don't need to, because then I'm just as bad as them. 02:20:21.752 --> 02:20:24.340 That's the lesson we learn from this today, kiddies. 02:20:25.000 --> 02:20:28.480 But that's the story, basically. There's nothing more to it. 02:20:28.520 --> 02:20:30.928 And it's not a word of the strange in that. So they just sit here 02:20:30.944 --> 02:20:34.544 and debate it. They're just hot. They're just hot as fuck. Yeah. And they're in 02:20:34.552 --> 02:20:37.640 the park and they literally just. They're hungry and they go start 02:20:37.680 --> 02:20:41.424 eating someone. So this ties into all these sort of bath 02:20:41.472 --> 02:20:44.808 salt stories that you hear so much about where, 02:20:44.984 --> 02:20:48.928 you know, people think, oh, it's a zombie. It's not. It's just a guy's fucking 02:20:48.984 --> 02:20:52.600 high as a kite. I mentioned in the last 02:20:52.640 --> 02:20:56.552 episode, I mentioned a 02:20:56.576 --> 02:20:59.220 rapper called Big Lurch who smoked. 02:20:59.720 --> 02:21:03.168 He used to smoke embalming fluid mixed in with 02:21:03.184 --> 02:21:06.456 his splits. And I think I already told this story, but I'm very 02:21:06.488 --> 02:21:09.868 gonna proof you mentioned it. He was arrested, covered in blood, naked, 02:21:09.924 --> 02:21:13.420 because he'd. He was with a prostitute, and he ended up thinking 02:21:13.460 --> 02:21:17.044 that the devil was inside her stomach. So he ended up trying to tunnel into 02:21:17.092 --> 02:21:20.468 her stomach with his bad teeth and fingers and all 02:21:20.484 --> 02:21:23.732 these people take these bath salts and shit. I mean, surely you must hear bath 02:21:23.756 --> 02:21:26.948 salts make you fucking mental. Don't take them. People just still out there going, 02:21:27.084 --> 02:21:30.676 what should we do tonight, Gav? Probably do these bath salts. Shall we? 02:21:30.748 --> 02:21:33.980 Yeah, should be all right. And they're not. They're not actual bar sorts. 02:21:34.020 --> 02:21:37.078 They're nicknamed bar sorts because they were. I think. I think it's because they're very 02:21:37.134 --> 02:21:40.390 easily to get hold of. The same as bath salts. 02:21:40.430 --> 02:21:42.770 I think. I guess I might be wrong there, 02:21:43.270 --> 02:21:47.054 but, yeah, it's crazy, isn't it, because I drank. I drank some radox before. 02:21:47.142 --> 02:21:50.574 I've had some bubble baths and I'm gone nuts. No, 02:21:50.742 --> 02:21:52.934 I've got some bath water in my mouth when I've been in the bath and 02:21:52.942 --> 02:21:56.566 I've been having a little lie down, bit of bubble baths gone in my mouth. 02:21:56.638 --> 02:22:00.244 I haven't bitten anyone's head off. I've smoked, smoked soap in bombs, 02:22:00.302 --> 02:22:03.460 all sorts. I haven't. I haven't done that. 02:22:04.720 --> 02:22:08.780 But, yeah, it's just crazy, isn't the world, where people take drugs, 02:22:09.520 --> 02:22:13.960 like, extreme drugs, which really fuck you up and 02:22:14.120 --> 02:22:16.864 go and do this crazy, crazy shit. 02:22:16.952 --> 02:22:20.408 And that's. That's our happy Valentine's Day. 02:22:20.544 --> 02:22:23.872 World of the strange, really, isn't it? Now, Gavin, talking about the strange, 02:22:23.936 --> 02:22:27.510 stop the press. I've just had an inbox request 02:22:28.370 --> 02:22:32.250 from a lovely lady, and I kid you not, who's living 02:22:32.290 --> 02:22:33.910 in Lael at the moment. 02:22:35.730 --> 02:22:39.330 It's one of these fake ones. She says hello, 02:22:39.490 --> 02:22:40.910 nice to meet you, 02:22:42.770 --> 02:22:45.842 kiss. So it's one of these ones where, you know, 02:22:45.906 --> 02:22:48.498 she wants to. Probably just wants me to give her. Should I give her my 02:22:48.514 --> 02:22:51.828 bank details? Is that what it is? Thought you 02:22:51.844 --> 02:22:55.092 were on about another person's. Chimed in on the older. No, 02:22:55.116 --> 02:22:58.780 I've literally just had this now. It must be because it's the balance. Romantic people 02:22:58.860 --> 02:23:02.372 know. People can feel the energy. Right now. The vibes are 02:23:02.396 --> 02:23:06.052 going through. The vibes 02:23:06.076 --> 02:23:09.300 are going through the. From our voices. The love is just 02:23:09.340 --> 02:23:12.836 being spread everywhere right now. Wherever you are, whatever you're doing, you're feeling 02:23:12.868 --> 02:23:16.580 the love. Do a little jive. Spring your little bottom. Do a little spin 02:23:16.620 --> 02:23:19.958 around. Say yeah to the person next to you. Tell him 02:23:19.974 --> 02:23:22.798 you love them. Give a little kiss. I want to do. Guys, if you're on 02:23:22.814 --> 02:23:26.490 your own, I want you to just touch yourself. No, no, forget that. 02:23:26.990 --> 02:23:29.822 If you're with someone listening to this podcast, give a little kiss. Telling me love 02:23:29.846 --> 02:23:32.758 them. Unless it's like a colleague or something, 02:23:32.814 --> 02:23:36.850 and it's just. That'll just be weird. Don't touch them. Don't touch a colleague. 02:23:37.710 --> 02:23:42.250 All right. Yeah. Strange. Pretty weird. Builder. The street bill. 02:23:43.040 --> 02:23:46.220 Boo. That's all the time we've got for. This week on worldwide. 02:23:47.240 --> 02:23:51.540 Next week, though, Kimmy, Ira, hairless pets, 02:23:52.600 --> 02:23:53.460 weird. 02:24:11.650 --> 02:24:14.306 And that was world of the strange. Thank you very much, Mister Bill Murray. 02:24:14.338 --> 02:24:17.706 Now it's time for our little music segment, and in keeping 02:24:17.738 --> 02:24:21.298 with a sexy Valentine's theme, we're gonna go 02:24:21.354 --> 02:24:25.290 very sexy now with a bit of vamp Gab's. Just literally 02:24:25.330 --> 02:24:28.690 spread his legs. That's great. Hey, Sharon stoned you. 02:24:28.810 --> 02:24:31.550 He did. Jesus fucking Christ, my eyes. 02:24:32.130 --> 02:24:36.220 Anyway, we're gonna get very sexy now with some music from the sexy 02:24:36.260 --> 02:24:39.228 film starring the sexy Grace Jones. 02:24:39.364 --> 02:24:42.480 And that's a sexy film called Vamp. Take it away, vamp. 02:24:53.940 --> 02:24:55.880 I still remember. 02:24:58.700 --> 02:24:59.880 I still. 02:25:03.380 --> 02:25:08.572 I still remember where 02:25:08.636 --> 02:25:10.040 I came from. 02:25:12.940 --> 02:25:14.160 Love my. 02:25:50.950 --> 02:25:52.930 No more to love. 02:26:10.590 --> 02:26:13.210 Yeah. I started watching Ash versus evil Dead. 02:26:13.830 --> 02:26:16.822 Oh, thank fuck for that. What did you think? Got six episodes in. 02:26:16.886 --> 02:26:18.650 Really good. Really, really good. 02:26:21.120 --> 02:26:23.896 The first episode is 40 minutes. The rest of them are only half an hour 02:26:23.928 --> 02:26:27.048 each. It's exactly the right amount of time. I'm enjoying it. I haven't 02:26:27.064 --> 02:26:29.992 got the other six. Yeah, I did have to illegally download them. No, I do 02:26:30.016 --> 02:26:32.768 say this because I just couldn't know how else to get hold of them, 02:26:32.784 --> 02:26:35.496 to watch them. And I think most people did, 02:26:35.528 --> 02:26:38.880 really. It's the trouble with the UK. It's hard. It's very hard. 02:26:38.960 --> 02:26:42.168 And I don't know why it should be so hard, though. And to 02:26:42.184 --> 02:26:46.106 be honest, as soon as I prove it comes out, I'm gonna buy it anyway. 02:26:46.258 --> 02:26:49.762 I don't buy dvd's anymore, but I'm gonna buy it. Well, exactly. Because it's 02:26:49.786 --> 02:26:53.506 like you can rewatch, isn't it? It's Bobby. I actually watch 02:26:53.538 --> 02:26:56.522 it in one sitting. Like a five hour film. Yeah. But I can't get hold 02:26:56.546 --> 02:26:59.674 of the other six. So I'm. It's very frustrating. Oh, 02:26:59.722 --> 02:27:03.194 fuck. I'm trying, but. Yes. Well, season two. 02:27:03.242 --> 02:27:06.930 Have you heard who's gonna be in season two? No. Ted Ramey 02:27:07.010 --> 02:27:11.038 has been casting it. I love Ted Raimi. They've cast Lee 02:27:11.134 --> 02:27:14.318 fucking majors. The 6 million solid man has been cast in 02:27:14.334 --> 02:27:17.638 season two. Amazing. Yeah. So, you know, 02:27:17.654 --> 02:27:20.950 it's all kicking off. Bruce Campbell posted up something on Facebook the other 02:27:20.990 --> 02:27:24.894 day. Season two kicking off soon. So that's really 02:27:24.942 --> 02:27:28.198 good. And, you know, this is another reason why soon we're 02:27:28.214 --> 02:27:31.638 going to do an episode about tv horror shows. Have you 02:27:31.654 --> 02:27:35.288 seen anything new X Files, new X folds? You seen any 02:27:35.304 --> 02:27:39.100 of that? I haven't watched any of it. I've heard it's got a bit comedic. 02:27:41.240 --> 02:27:44.940 Have you heard they're making an omen tv show as well? 02:27:45.960 --> 02:27:49.504 No. Called Thorn or something. And they're also making 02:27:49.552 --> 02:27:52.680 a fucking exorcist tv show. So it's getting a bit ridiculous now. 02:27:52.720 --> 02:27:55.540 The amount of tv shows that. From horror films. 02:27:55.960 --> 02:27:59.460 Yeah, I don't. I don't really want all of it. 02:28:00.850 --> 02:28:03.842 There's a few of them. I don't mind. What I tell you, that is, 02:28:03.986 --> 02:28:06.882 we haven't talked about very much is Bates Motel. 02:28:06.946 --> 02:28:10.522 And, you know, I think that's great. And that. That's coming back soon. Did you 02:28:10.546 --> 02:28:14.522 watch the last season of Bates Motel? No, I've only seen one, two so far. 02:28:14.626 --> 02:28:17.890 Oh, my God. Season three is where he starts getting into the weird shit. 02:28:17.970 --> 02:28:21.322 Well, just kind of waiting for it to come on Netflix, then I'll watch 02:28:21.346 --> 02:28:24.390 it. Same with Walking Dead. I've not seen. 02:28:25.530 --> 02:28:28.852 This has been a sexy episode. It has 02:28:28.876 --> 02:28:32.020 been very sexy episode. It's been lovely. Lovely. 02:28:32.060 --> 02:28:35.680 I've had. I've had two candles burning the whole time, quite literally. 02:28:37.460 --> 02:28:41.084 I'm not wearing any trousers below this desk, Gav. So you 02:28:41.092 --> 02:28:44.320 can see. Oh, I can't see. Can I show you my balls? But they're there. 02:28:45.020 --> 02:28:48.572 You should call me McLovin for this episode, I think. All right, McLovin. 02:28:48.636 --> 02:28:52.042 I will do. And you can call me Bone man. Bone Mandy. 02:28:52.176 --> 02:28:56.086 Yeah, baby. Bone man. Really gutted about my bone 02:28:56.118 --> 02:28:59.462 tomahawk. I know. I wanted you to watch it so we could 02:28:59.486 --> 02:29:02.406 talk about it. Yeah. I can't believe that. As you can see on the old 02:29:02.438 --> 02:29:06.650 Facebook page I've posted a picture of me holding a copy. Damn you. 02:29:07.750 --> 02:29:11.062 Fucking Amazon. I love Amazon, though. We can't really complain. 02:29:11.126 --> 02:29:14.190 No, no. I just don't know why they didn't say it was not. And I 02:29:14.690 --> 02:29:17.864 was like, why? That's quite cheap, boy. It's only like tennis overdose. That's quite cheap. 02:29:17.912 --> 02:29:21.384 That's brilliant. Excellent. Well, I picked up on Amazon for $2.99. 02:29:21.432 --> 02:29:23.700 I picked up, which I posted on the thing, 02:29:24.280 --> 02:29:27.392 the Facebook page, that lovely little box set that you think 02:29:27.416 --> 02:29:30.352 is a mill Creek one. It's got six films in it and it was two 02:29:30.376 --> 02:29:34.008 pounds, 97 pence. Yeah, it's cool. It's got the terror. 02:29:34.104 --> 02:29:37.060 The Jack Nixon, the hitchhiker. 02:29:38.840 --> 02:29:42.500 The bat house on Haunted Hill. Oh, the hitchhiker of Rooker Hill. 02:29:42.850 --> 02:29:46.630 No, it's got the original one, which I've never seen. I'd be quite interested. 02:29:47.170 --> 02:29:50.434 It's got. I don't. I've not seen the terror either. With Jack Nicholson? No, 02:29:50.442 --> 02:29:54.146 I've not seen that. No, it's Roger Cor, is when Roger Corman discovered Jack 02:29:54.178 --> 02:29:57.754 Nixon and they were doing that, the sort of movie set film for like three, 02:29:57.802 --> 02:30:01.106 four days in the castle. And they do the same couple of movies 02:30:01.138 --> 02:30:04.906 on the same sets. I don't know. But they, 02:30:04.978 --> 02:30:08.046 they sold well. They did all right. Be interesting to see them, 02:30:08.218 --> 02:30:11.030 someone like Jack Nixon in an experimental way of, like, 02:30:11.070 --> 02:30:13.846 shooting in the three or four days with Roger Corman. But I've never seen those 02:30:13.878 --> 02:30:17.130 films. Really. Maybe we should do a Corman episode at some point. 02:30:18.270 --> 02:30:21.278 We could do, because I'm a big. Fan of Bucket of blood. 02:30:21.454 --> 02:30:24.470 Oh, yeah, yeah. Of course. Yeah. This evening, me and the kids, 02:30:24.510 --> 02:30:27.902 we watched Joe Dante's the Explorers with 02:30:27.926 --> 02:30:31.006 River Phoenix and Ethan Hawk. Do you know what? 02:30:31.038 --> 02:30:34.876 As much as I love eighties films and those that. From that error, because I 02:30:34.908 --> 02:30:38.324 never saw that film until about five years ago, don't connect with it at 02:30:38.332 --> 02:30:42.028 all. Well, I listened to an interview of him and where he said he really, 02:30:42.204 --> 02:30:45.400 the second half the movie wasn't his movie. It's taken away from him. 02:30:46.940 --> 02:30:50.084 Yeah. It's not his car, it's not his what he wanted and he doesn't 02:30:50.132 --> 02:30:53.268 like it. And watch the times, like the first half is kind of cool and 02:30:53.284 --> 02:30:56.300 the second half is just was wacky. She fucking weird 02:30:56.340 --> 02:30:58.748 thing. It did get really weird. I remember a friend of mine saying, you can't 02:30:58.764 --> 02:31:02.250 believe you've never seen that. This, like, watch this now. And I remember just thinking 02:31:02.830 --> 02:31:06.302 I was really into the first sort of 45 minutes and then just thought, 02:31:06.366 --> 02:31:09.838 nah, nah, not at all. Not into this. Rob Boltin 02:31:09.894 --> 02:31:13.326 does the older effects for it and stuff. It's like 02:31:13.398 --> 02:31:17.166 little eighties vibe going on. Dick Miller. This is why I'm saying this, because the 02:31:17.198 --> 02:31:20.942 cameo type things got Dick Miller with quite, quite a part as 02:31:20.966 --> 02:31:24.010 well. Oh, good old Dick Miller. I do love him. Um, 02:31:25.280 --> 02:31:28.800 things. I did watch a short film, very short film that you 02:31:28.840 --> 02:31:30.380 made. Yeah. 02:31:32.800 --> 02:31:36.056 There's a feature movie coming out called 60 seconds 02:31:36.088 --> 02:31:39.896 to die with loads of different filmmakers 02:31:40.088 --> 02:31:43.752 and they are all just doing 62nd films. 02:31:43.776 --> 02:31:46.840 And I was asked to do one. I was asked to do one for a 02:31:46.880 --> 02:31:50.616 grind exploitation. This is a compilation of different people 02:31:50.648 --> 02:31:54.112 made, making excerpts or fake traders for 02:31:54.136 --> 02:31:57.488 grind, grindhouse type stuff. Fake, you know, fake grindhouse movies. 02:31:57.584 --> 02:32:00.256 And I didn't get chance to do it because I was doing pretty natural, 02:32:00.448 --> 02:32:04.248 but I showed preaching natural to them. I said, sorry, I couldn't do it, 02:32:04.264 --> 02:32:07.432 but here's pretty natural. And they really loved it. And the guy, 02:32:07.496 --> 02:32:10.568 Tony Newton, who's produced it, who I've been chatting to, 02:32:10.624 --> 02:32:14.168 he asked me to make a little segment for it. So I did and I 02:32:14.184 --> 02:32:18.218 made this little short film where it's just me really, 02:32:18.394 --> 02:32:21.906 with a thing called eyeglasses. Quite good, 02:32:21.938 --> 02:32:25.338 though. Quite a funny little. I actually thought you just sent me a 02:32:25.354 --> 02:32:28.938 clip of you for the first few seconds, just tying out 02:32:28.954 --> 02:32:32.362 your Google eyeglasses or whatever, I thought, well, 02:32:32.426 --> 02:32:34.230 all right, show off. 02:32:37.570 --> 02:32:39.754 I won't spoil it. You might want to post it. I don't know what you 02:32:39.762 --> 02:32:42.680 want to do with it. I don't know. Find a contract. 02:32:44.540 --> 02:32:48.452 I probably wouldn't know. I'll probably keep it like just for that really, you know, 02:32:48.596 --> 02:32:52.092 but yeah, it's quite fun. Nice little ending to it, isn't it? Yes, it works 02:32:52.116 --> 02:32:55.320 better with sound effects. It's not as good without sound effects, funnily enough. 02:32:55.860 --> 02:33:00.000 Really? Yeah, well, sound effects, you know, they do make up half of it. 02:33:00.900 --> 02:33:04.036 I had my interview with old Nicholas Vince. Tell us all about this. 02:33:04.068 --> 02:33:07.400 Chattering teeth chattering, you know, hellraiser Chatterer. 02:33:07.730 --> 02:33:10.290 I tuned in and listened to that. It was quite fun. Oh, did you? 02:33:10.330 --> 02:33:13.658 Oh, good on you. Of course I did. Yeah. I don't know. 02:33:13.674 --> 02:33:16.906 I don't know. I didn't really rubbish at promote, really. I didn't re advertise 02:33:16.938 --> 02:33:19.306 it much. I mean, it's quite fun just chatting away to him and stuff about 02:33:19.338 --> 02:33:22.722 things. Then when he went off, we carried on 02:33:22.746 --> 02:33:25.730 Chan to a direct on there. Mark. Mark Logan, 02:33:25.770 --> 02:33:29.470 who's rats. Which sounds interesting. 02:33:30.450 --> 02:33:33.772 Shot in a castle. He had access to a castle. So shot 02:33:33.796 --> 02:33:37.692 on there. Quite cool. Be amazing, wouldn't it, if you had access to a castle. 02:33:37.716 --> 02:33:40.828 You just shoot your films in there. Yeah. Yeah. So Nicholas Vince 02:33:40.844 --> 02:33:43.108 is actually in it, you see? Anyway. 02:33:43.284 --> 02:33:46.356 Yeah, that and did nothing. If you last week actually went 02:33:46.388 --> 02:33:50.036 to. Went to a little place and been filmed for an interview for uk horror 02:33:50.068 --> 02:33:52.924 scene and had makeup put on us and everything. Very, 02:33:52.972 --> 02:33:56.092 very pro, you know, sexy sex. 02:33:56.236 --> 02:33:59.944 Valentines that worked on Paul. I said to make up the 02:33:59.952 --> 02:34:02.344 lady, I said, you're probably gonna have to use cement, but you give it a 02:34:02.352 --> 02:34:05.872 go. And what did he say to that? He laughed off, 02:34:05.896 --> 02:34:08.048 Gav. He kind of laughed at me. Be at his glass off. So he couldn't 02:34:08.064 --> 02:34:10.368 see very well. So I don't know if he just didn't know if it's me 02:34:10.384 --> 02:34:12.180 or just someone else who's been plugged. 02:34:13.960 --> 02:34:16.420 Yeah. So that's kind of cool. It's a bit promoting stuff. 02:34:17.080 --> 02:34:20.992 It's fun to do that stuff, really. This year so far has been 02:34:21.016 --> 02:34:24.158 promoting stuff. But I started writing a new flick, actually. 02:34:24.304 --> 02:34:27.618 I'm very excited by it. I sent you the synopsis, Dennis. Yeah, 02:34:27.714 --> 02:34:31.030 I enjoyed it. I've taken out the acid bit. 02:34:34.290 --> 02:34:37.610 Yeah, yeah, I'm not using that. It's too cheap. Yeah. 02:34:37.770 --> 02:34:41.266 A few people mentioned. That's not very good. But yeah, it's a really good idea 02:34:41.298 --> 02:34:45.530 and I'm gonna go ahead and do it. So you have to get involved somehow. 02:34:45.650 --> 02:34:49.578 Of course I will. The good news is, Gavin, is that 02:34:49.594 --> 02:34:53.332 nobody died since the last. No one in the horror 02:34:53.356 --> 02:34:56.188 community. No horror community. But in my personal life. 02:34:56.284 --> 02:35:00.212 In your personal life, no, no. Yeah. There was 02:35:00.316 --> 02:35:04.000 someone who did pass away, actually. It was in the horror community. 02:35:04.380 --> 02:35:08.804 Richard Gladman, the rest in peace british blogger. 02:35:08.852 --> 02:35:12.476 He was made cyber 02:35:12.548 --> 02:35:15.940 Chisel was his blog and webpage and stuff. And each 02:35:15.980 --> 02:35:19.876 review movie stuff. And he reviewed Shadow once to 02:35:19.908 --> 02:35:22.724 me, he kind of did it. We did a back and forth message, sent me 02:35:22.732 --> 02:35:25.500 a massive message. That's kind of review of. It wasn't like a public review. 02:35:25.580 --> 02:35:30.020 And I'm chatting back and forth and he passed away actually. 02:35:30.100 --> 02:35:33.028 And then next day another person I knew, friend, 02:35:33.164 --> 02:35:37.972 she passed away as well. Wow. This is 2016. 02:35:38.156 --> 02:35:42.770 Very, very death oriented year, isn't it? It's odd. 02:35:43.590 --> 02:35:47.070 Not just in the media, but for people around me and 02:35:47.110 --> 02:35:50.358 you. Yeah, just all over the place. It just starts 02:35:50.374 --> 02:35:53.606 to let you realize your existence. And I guess we're just 02:35:53.638 --> 02:35:57.290 getting older as well. Do you see it in the news about the black holes? 02:35:57.710 --> 02:36:01.590 Yeah, the gravitational. Where the two black holes went 02:36:01.630 --> 02:36:04.686 into each other to form. Yeah. To show the gravitational pull thing. 02:36:04.718 --> 02:36:08.240 And it was a 5 billion years years ago it happened. 02:36:08.280 --> 02:36:11.380 And they managed to capture. How the fuck did Einstein know that? 02:36:11.760 --> 02:36:14.832 Einstein knew it 100 years ago. He's fucking brilliant in. 02:36:14.856 --> 02:36:18.808 He and Stephen Hawkins in 02:36:18.824 --> 02:36:22.392 the late seventies I think predicted it also. Like something of what was happening 02:36:22.416 --> 02:36:25.928 as well. Yeah, clever. Fucking clever. 02:36:26.024 --> 02:36:29.712 Yeah. So they heard something which is like 5 billion years 02:36:29.736 --> 02:36:32.180 ago. They heard it the other day. 02:36:32.730 --> 02:36:35.850 It happened 5 billion years ago. Oh, what's that? 02:36:36.010 --> 02:36:39.490 Oh, yeah, here. It's from 5 billion years ago. Those two black holes 02:36:39.530 --> 02:36:43.226 were submerged in together. Oh. They had to change 02:36:43.258 --> 02:36:46.746 the picture of it because it's so. I think it was too. 02:36:46.778 --> 02:36:50.322 Must been too low. Made sense. Have been more too high not to have heard 02:36:50.346 --> 02:36:52.750 it by human ear, but must been too low. 02:36:54.090 --> 02:36:56.898 Yeah. So, yeah, they had to drop it even lower pitch just so we could 02:36:56.914 --> 02:37:00.612 hear. This is sound. I got a 02:37:00.676 --> 02:37:04.628 review that my mum did actually, for me. Oh, please can you record these? 02:37:04.724 --> 02:37:08.412 She said, get your mom to do. Please get 02:37:08.436 --> 02:37:10.668 your mum to do a review. Nick, you've got to go and do it. 02:37:10.684 --> 02:37:14.508 It's important. Okay, I will do. I will do next show. She said, 02:37:14.564 --> 02:37:17.212 I watched a brilliant film the other day. I said, oh, what was that? 02:37:17.236 --> 02:37:20.748 It was on the horror channel. I said, oh, what was it? See if you 02:37:20.764 --> 02:37:24.036 can guess it because I guessed it from the description. Oh, there's all these little 02:37:24.068 --> 02:37:27.628 creatures living in the garden. And they were kept coming in the house 02:37:27.684 --> 02:37:31.000 and there was like a no, no. 02:37:31.300 --> 02:37:34.244 And she said, they kept coming in and there was, there was great effects, 02:37:34.292 --> 02:37:37.356 really good effects. And I said, was Steven Dorf in it? She went, 02:37:37.388 --> 02:37:41.012 yes, he was. I said, was it the gate? Oh, 02:37:41.076 --> 02:37:44.120 yeah. Nice. She watched the gate and she loved it. 02:37:44.820 --> 02:37:48.308 Oh, funny man. I'm gonna record her and see what 02:37:48.324 --> 02:37:51.582 she says next time. Yeah, please. Every time she watched a horror channel movie, 02:37:51.606 --> 02:37:55.046 just record it and send it to me and I'll post it. Talking. No, 02:37:55.078 --> 02:37:58.030 the horror channel obviously shows some shit as well. Talking of next time. 02:37:58.110 --> 02:38:01.782 Yeah. Next episode is going to be our Easter episode, isn't it? Yeah. 02:38:01.846 --> 02:38:05.302 Yeah, totally. And critters two and aliens because we 02:38:05.326 --> 02:38:08.678 did critters one and alien last Easter, so we thought we'd 02:38:08.694 --> 02:38:11.782 keep the egg theme going for Easter and do those two movies. So that should 02:38:11.806 --> 02:38:15.584 be fun. Yeah, so the. That's it. I hope 02:38:15.632 --> 02:38:19.520 everyone's had a very romantic and sexy time and I'm gonna bid 02:38:19.560 --> 02:38:22.976 you adieu. Audience thanks for the shoutouts, 02:38:23.008 --> 02:38:26.512 listeners. It's a sexy 02:38:26.536 --> 02:38:29.792 goodbye from me. And it's a smoochy smooch. I love you. 02:38:29.816 --> 02:38:32.840 Kiss for me and other people. 02:38:32.960 --> 02:38:36.400 Cannibals. Homeless fingerless people. Also, 02:38:36.560 --> 02:38:40.558 when in doubt, just have a big sexy orgy. Fish fingers. 02:38:40.704 --> 02:38:44.390 Oh, homeless fingers. Homeless man's fingers. Brilliant. 02:38:44.730 --> 02:38:46.910 Laters. Latest guys, 02:38:48.250 --> 02:38:51.786 thank you for listening to. The podcast on Haunted Hill. We will be back again 02:38:51.858 --> 02:38:52.750 real soon. 02:39:04.370 --> 02:39:05.394 No tears,