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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to the Bible Guys, a podcast where a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun, in

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<v Speaker 1>practical ways. Good morning, good morning. We talked a whole

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<v Speaker 1>night through.

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<v Speaker 2>Good morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning to you and.

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<v Speaker 2>You and you.

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<v Speaker 3>Happy Tuesday, Happy Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 1>Happy, Kyle, it is happy.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a happy Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a happy good morning to everybody who tuned into

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<v Speaker 1>the Bible Guys. My name is Chris, this is Kyle,

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<v Speaker 1>and today we are your Bible guys. Because Jeff's out

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<v Speaker 1>of town.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he's traveling. T I dot org actually should have

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<v Speaker 3>looked that up. We could have actually given people at

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<v Speaker 3>said dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>You can try to Timothy initiative.

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<v Speaker 3>Just giggle the bad dot TV tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right TV. Anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, today we're actually in the second week and second

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<v Speaker 1>day of the second week of Dangerous Prayers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and today we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Moses and how he actually had a conversation with God

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<v Speaker 1>and prayed a very audacious and kind of a out

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<v Speaker 1>there kind of a prayer.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But before we get into that, we have a really fun.

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<v Speaker 3>Segment Who's most Likely?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes? Do you like these?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, I like these a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, all right, so we're gonna go through. We got

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<v Speaker 3>five who's most likely yep and uh yes, So I'm

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<v Speaker 3>gonna read these or we're gonna read them together. I'll

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<v Speaker 3>start with the first one, and then we're just gonna

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<v Speaker 3>discuss who's most likely to do something? Okay, first one,

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<v Speaker 3>who's most likely to show up late with Starbucks in hand?

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<v Speaker 1>Chris or Kyle, which, by the way, is funny because

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<v Speaker 1>that indicates that the reason why they're late is they

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<v Speaker 1>stop to get Starbucks right.

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<v Speaker 3>For somebody else. Yes, so I would say you are.

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<v Speaker 3>I would say probably historically more of a late person,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe just.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I'm no, no, no, there's no doubt I am.

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<v Speaker 3>And when it comes to cost, but I'm the Starbucks person,

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't know. That's a tough That's a tough one, man.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah it is, as I have a generic cuff yet

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<v Speaker 1>by hand.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I if I'm willing to be late to something and

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<v Speaker 3>I have Starbucks in hand, I think that's my way

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<v Speaker 3>of justifying being late.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, so let's go with you, which, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, wait, that is pretty funny, right when somebody.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually saw a commercial the other day where a

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<v Speaker 1>lady walked into the hospital and she's like, I got

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<v Speaker 1>here just as soon as I can. And she's like,

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<v Speaker 1>where have you been?

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, got her as soon as I can.

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<v Speaker 1>And she had a Starbucks to her hand and she goes,

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<v Speaker 1>did you stop for coffee?

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<v Speaker 3>Hit in forty minutes in life for that, it's it's hilarious.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, okay, we'll say we'll say you.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. Number two.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's most likely to fall for an obvious scam?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? Man, are you? You don't seem gullible?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't. I think I'm the opposite of this. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So I when I first when I read this before

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<v Speaker 3>we started this, I was like, oh, I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>either of us. But I did realize I did fall

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<v Speaker 3>first scam recently. I'm embarrassed to admit this.

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<v Speaker 2>Really.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, So there's these golfers that I follow on social media,

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<v Speaker 3>Good good golf. You ever heard of them?

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<v Speaker 2>Huh?

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<v Speaker 3>Christian guys, but that they just do golf videos on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 3>Click on this link and I did, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>holy smokes, they're actually seven dollars shirts and they had

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<v Speaker 3>this and they had that. So I ordered like forty

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<v Speaker 3>and I ordered it and then it sent it like

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<v Speaker 3>when I when the order came through with some some

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<v Speaker 3>I think I just got scammed. But before I had

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<v Speaker 3>even realized I got scammed, I'd sent it to several

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<v Speaker 3>you get like you really fell for that. So it's

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<v Speaker 3>kind of like I felt embarrassed later that. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>so somebody must have taken their videos, yeah, and then

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<v Speaker 3>threw the seven dollars shirt over top of their videos,

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<v Speaker 3>so it was a legitimate scam.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, okay, and then what happened to your money?

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<v Speaker 3>So I ended up having to go and fight it

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<v Speaker 3>with a credit card company and got my money back.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, it was definitely it. And you didn't get

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<v Speaker 3>anything in the man, No, no no, no, no no no no,

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, so that that's incredible.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I was. I was annoyed at myself because

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<v Speaker 3>I had. People were like, dude, how did you not?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, oh, I thought I found a good deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah I had. I had a lady called me

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<v Speaker 1>just like the other day, and I decided to answer it.

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<v Speaker 1>And she you know, you know, it's obvious she's in

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<v Speaker 1>another country somewhere. She's speaking in such broken English that

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<v Speaker 1>I can't even understand her. And she's saying, you've been

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<v Speaker 1>forgiven for you know, my kids have like student loan things.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, She's like, you've been forgiven for maximum forgiveness.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like maximum forgiveness meaning everything, And all I need

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<v Speaker 1>to do is get your information to sign into your account.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh and I was like really really, I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>that all she needs is all my personal information because

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<v Speaker 1>I've been approved for maximum forgiveness.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, So unfortunately I think this one may be me.

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<v Speaker 3>I hate to admit that.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Number three actually wait wait no you read.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, number three, who's most likely to run for office?

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<v Speaker 3>Just to prove a point, Well.

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<v Speaker 1>If Jeff, we're here that be him, Yes, there's no doubt.

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<v Speaker 3>Can we just say Jeff just because so why would

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<v Speaker 3>it be Jeff?

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<v Speaker 1>Well because number one, he would actually.

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<v Speaker 3>Be smart enough to run for offic Yes, yes, you

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<v Speaker 3>and I know no, there's there's there's that.

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<v Speaker 1>And number two, I guess he's just determined in some ways.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you ever hear the Did you ever hear the

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<v Speaker 1>story he told about like fighting the county for chickens?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, for chickens he told Yeah one time.

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<v Speaker 2>He told me.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a fifteen minute story. He told me one time,

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<v Speaker 3>like some get together. I was like, wow, there's quite elaborate.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And the thing is he didn't even really care. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't wanted to win?

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<v Speaker 3>Is to prove a point?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, because he was right?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, yeah, so.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought that was funny. So so yeah, Jeff, Jeff's

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<v Speaker 1>the winner between But uh, me or you?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, man, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>If we had to choose, i'd probably say me just

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<v Speaker 1>because people, Well that's not true either. I was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>say older people have a better shot at office. Is

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<v Speaker 1>that true? I think it's true?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Maybe yeah maybe? Or trust yeah maybe? Okay? Fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Number four, who's most likely to compete on Survivor and

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<v Speaker 1>actually win.

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<v Speaker 3>Boy. So dude, actually, I do you ever watch the arrivor?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you want to something hilarious? This is remember just

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<v Speaker 1>as embarrassed as you were to say that you fell

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<v Speaker 1>for a scamp. I have never once seen a single

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<v Speaker 1>episode of Survivor, okay, not one, So I have no

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<v Speaker 1>idea what Survivor is other than I think they just

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<v Speaker 1>have to have knowledge to survive things.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So you're stranded on an island. It's essentially stranded, and

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<v Speaker 3>you do different challenges. You sleep in the woods or

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<v Speaker 3>the jungle, and you every couple of days you vote

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<v Speaker 3>somebody off that you basically dislike.

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<v Speaker 2>So I knew this voting off there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so that's that's where you get to the end

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<v Speaker 3>and then and then basically your peers vote who the

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<v Speaker 3>winner is.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, the fact that you even knew that puts you

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<v Speaker 1>ahead of me.

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<v Speaker 3>I would Okay, So I've watched the show a bunch.

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<v Speaker 3>For anybody who's a Survivor fan out there, I would

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<v Speaker 3>love the chat Survivor with you because I have watched.

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<v Speaker 3>I've not watched the last few seasons, but it's a

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<v Speaker 3>show that me and my family, we enjoy. It's a

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<v Speaker 3>great show. I've thought about it a lot because I

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<v Speaker 3>watch it and I wonder what it'd be like to

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<v Speaker 3>good job on the show. From a from a challenge

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<v Speaker 3>slash social perspective. The biggest negative sleeping and rats. I

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<v Speaker 3>hate roadents, So I think I already can you handle

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<v Speaker 3>are there a lot of rats? I think that there's

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of wildlife roading like that and where they're at,

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<v Speaker 3>and they'll just be out in the bout and stuff

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<v Speaker 1>That's so so I actually already know it doesn't really

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<v Speaker 1>matter how good you are or think you can be

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<v Speaker 1>on this show. The fact that it's just outdoors. All

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<v Speaker 1>you have to do is say outdoors.

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<v Speaker 2>Sleep and I'm out. Yes, I'm out.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, it's not like I can't sleep outdoors.

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<v Speaker 2>I've done it.

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<v Speaker 1>I've camped, I've camped on the ground with sleeping bags.

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<v Speaker 1>I've done the tenth thing, I've done, the RV thing

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<v Speaker 1>I've done, I've done some of those things. I've you know,

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<v Speaker 1>cooked by the fire and all that stuff. I've done that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just loathe it. I loathe it.

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<v Speaker 2>I loaded it with every part of my being.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I just don't understand, right, It's like, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>understand why that's so unbelievable. And you know what I

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<v Speaker 1>think it is. I think it's it's this. It's one

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<v Speaker 1>of two things. Either number one, people love nature and

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<v Speaker 1>they love it, love love love nature, right, feel closer

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<v Speaker 1>to God, nature, want to be around nature. They feel

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<v Speaker 2>I have none of that.

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<v Speaker 1>And then number two, there's like a primal, live off

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<v Speaker 1>the land kind of a thing, right that, which is different.

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<v Speaker 1>It's more of like a look at me, I survive

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<v Speaker 3>That's a little bit of survivor. Some of the people

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't like it.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, this last one, who's most likely he become obsessed

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<v Speaker 1>Oh boy, First of all, I've never even heard of

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<v Speaker 3>Oh have you no extreme ironing?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't do it. No, I use a steamer.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm the only one in my family that irons.

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<v Speaker 1>but she lets me do it because I grew up ironing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I kind of want to buy an ironing board

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<v Speaker 3>and iron because you don't. No, we use like a

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<v Speaker 3>little steamer thing, but it's not the same. I like

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<v Speaker 3>when I go to hotel and I see if I'm

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<v Speaker 3>like doing a weddy or something like that, I like

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<v Speaker 1>Huh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So my mom taught me when I was a kid,

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<v Speaker 1>way is weird by itself. But I'm not kidding when

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<v Speaker 1>I say, like my best friend since the eighth grade,

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Miller, he always knows wherever we go. All he

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<v Speaker 2>I'll make them look great. That's awesome because I love

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<v Speaker 2>to iron.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually I don't love it. I just I sort of

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So extreme ironing, so most likely to become obsessed

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<v Speaker 3>with a random hobby, that probably would be you, between

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<v Speaker 3>the two of us, and then extreme ironing, for sure

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<v Speaker 3>it would be you.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So I'm the winner of that clearly.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Yes, all right, well, hey that was really random.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, And you know what else is random?

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<v Speaker 1>This prayer that Moses comes up with out of the blue.

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<v Speaker 3>It is random.

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<v Speaker 2>It is random.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's it's sort of like it's it's never been

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<v Speaker 1>requested before, and uh, and I don't think it's ever

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<v Speaker 1>been indulged since then. No, right, so you can say

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<v Speaker 1>that it's random. It's certainly cool.

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<v Speaker 2>It is it is?

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<v Speaker 1>It is random?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, all right? So Exodus thirty three is the chapter

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<v Speaker 3>we're in, yep, and then twelve the verses twelve through

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<v Speaker 3>twenty three. Let's see her, all right. Starting in verse twelve,

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<v Speaker 3>one day, Moses said to the Lord, you've been telling

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<v Speaker 3>me take these people up to the promised Land, but

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<v Speaker 3>you haven't told me whom he will send with me.

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<v Speaker 3>You have told me I know you by name, and

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<v Speaker 3>I look favorably on you. If it is true that

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<v Speaker 3>you look favorably on me, let me know your way

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<v Speaker 3>so I may understand you more fully and continue to

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<v Speaker 3>enjoy your favor. But remember that this nation is your

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<v Speaker 3>very own people. And the Lord replied, I will personally

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<v Speaker 3>go with you, Moses, and I will give you rest.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything will be fine for you. Then Moses said, if

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<v Speaker 3>you don't personally go with us, don't make us leave

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<v Speaker 3>this place. How will anyone know that you look favorably

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<v Speaker 3>on me, on me and on your people if you

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<v Speaker 3>don't go with us, For your presence among us sets

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<v Speaker 3>your people and me apart from all other people on

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<v Speaker 3>the earth, the Lord applied to Moses, I will indeed

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<v Speaker 3>do what you have asked for. I look favorably on you,

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<v Speaker 3>and I know you by name. Moses responded, Then show

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<v Speaker 3>me your glorious presence. Love that applied, I will make

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<v Speaker 3>you all, make all my goodness pass before you, and

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<v Speaker 3>I will call out my name yahweh before you. For

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<v Speaker 3>I will show mercy to anyone I choose, and I

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<v Speaker 3>will show compassion to anyone I choose. But you may

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<v Speaker 3>not look directly at my face, for no one may

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<v Speaker 3>see me and live, the Lord continued. Look stand near

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<v Speaker 3>me on this rock. As my glorious presence passes by.

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<v Speaker 3>I will hide you in the crevice of the rock

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<v Speaker 3>and cover you with my hand until I have passed by.

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<v Speaker 3>Then i'll remove my hand and let you see me

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<v Speaker 3>from behind, but my face will not be seen. All right,

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<v Speaker 3>that's the end of it. Yes, so let me read

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<v Speaker 3>that again. Then I will remove my hand and let

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<v Speaker 3>you see me from behind, but my face will not

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<v Speaker 3>be seen. That's verse twenty three. All right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you want to know how churchy My church was

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<v Speaker 1>so so a lot of times when you preach this

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<v Speaker 1>in the King James version and in those type of churches,

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<v Speaker 1>we used to call that the afterglow. Okay, so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like the afterglow of God's presence. And so every

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<v Speaker 1>time we would have like an event after like a Sunday,

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<v Speaker 1>like a insidate service or senate service, we call it afterglow.

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<v Speaker 1>That has to be literally, I'm not even kidding. That

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<v Speaker 2>Think about that. This is the cheesiest thing. Now, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not cheesy for church people.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, I mean, it's kind of cool for church people

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of like the concept. But like, can you

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<v Speaker 1>imagine inviting a friend come after who does it? Yeah, Hey, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>You'll be going so cool. What's it called?

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<v Speaker 1>It's called after glow?

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<v Speaker 2>Why is it called after glow?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we're gonna have to get that's kind.

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<v Speaker 1>Of a long story, but we're calling it afterglow.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's just the worst y.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, but yes, that is actually such a random request,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, let me see your presence, because think about it,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that anybody well I'm trying to think,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Jesus' disciples said you know, take us where

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<v Speaker 1>you're going, right. I don't think anybody asked to see

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus and the transfiguration, although they did, they saw Jesus

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<v Speaker 1>face as white as you know, bright as the sun.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't think anybody has ever said, God, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to see your face. I could be wrong, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think so. And yet God indulged Moses. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know what's so interesting here is that God indulged

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<v Speaker 1>Moses in his patience more than once, because Moses said,

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<v Speaker 1>go with me, and then God immediately said I indeed

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<v Speaker 1>will go with you and with all of the people.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Moses says again right after that, Lord, if

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<v Speaker 1>And God, it's almost as if God, if I were God,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say, didn't you hear me? I literally just said,

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<v Speaker 1>did I stutter? I literally just gave you the promise?

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<v Speaker 1>And and and I think that sometimes we as humans,

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<v Speaker 1>the ten Commandments, and then you know after you know,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, the Ten Commandments were given after the plagues

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<v Speaker 1>Red Sea. He had demonstrated himself as the God who

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<v Speaker 1>of Israel, which is estimately be millions of people by

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<v Speaker 1>And then what happens. Moses goes on top of Mount Sinai,

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<v Speaker 1>comes back with the Ten Commandments, and while he's on

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<v Speaker 1>chapter before, so one chapter earlier than this, Moses comes

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<v Speaker 1>Aaron for crying out loud, right, his right hand man,

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<v Speaker 1>who actually fashioned the golden calf himself, and all the

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<v Speaker 1>their gold earrings, their gold rings, they're gold necklaces, they

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<v Speaker 1>go bracelets, and they and they heeded them up and

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<v Speaker 1>they formed this huge golden calf to worship because they

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<v Speaker 1>had no god to worship, because that's what they were

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<v Speaker 1>used to in Egypt, right, they were used to worshiping

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<v Speaker 1>raw the god of the Sun, or you know, or

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<v Speaker 1>or whoever it is, Haites, the god of the underworld,

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<v Speaker 1>or you know, all these different you know, Egyptian gods.

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<v Speaker 1>And so what do they do. They form this gold calf,

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<v Speaker 1>Moses comes down. God gets angry, the tank, commandment tablets

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<v Speaker 1>are shattered, right, and then and then there's death. There's

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<v Speaker 1>this big punishment where he actually like grinds up the

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<v Speaker 1>into it's it's just a long story, right, but he says,

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<v Speaker 1>drink it and all these different things. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's it's terrible, and half the nation dies. And

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Right, And so so he says, God, go with us

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<v Speaker 1>in our journey to the Promised Land. You've told us

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<v Speaker 1>that we're going to be given at land. Go with us,

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<v Speaker 1>And God says, I will indeed go with you. He says, God,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to go with us, right, And I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's because we're shattered from our from our past experiences,

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<v Speaker 1>don't you.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, I agree. I think it's actually uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>when you put that context into it, Yeah, you see

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<v Speaker 3>why Moses is that way. And also I think it's

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<v Speaker 3>an even better picture of who God is, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>like Moses literally was a friend of God and the

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<v Speaker 3>way God was patient with him, and the way God

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<v Speaker 3>reminded him multiple times, Like I like, I think it's

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<v Speaker 3>a few different times he says, I show favor, like,

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<v Speaker 3>I see you favorably. I want to give you favor.

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<v Speaker 3>Let me see, I will, Yeah, I look favorably upon

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<v Speaker 3>you said it. I think two three times he shows

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<v Speaker 3>favorite to him and he says that I know your name, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>I will show compassion to anyone I choose. So I like,

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<v Speaker 3>I think I think it's interesting he chose mercy and

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<v Speaker 3>compassion and anyone I choose that it was not Honestly

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<v Speaker 3>when I first wart out, I was expecting mercy and

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<v Speaker 3>then judgment. I'll choose mercy and I'll choose judgment. He

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<v Speaker 3>said mercy and compassion, Yeah, like.

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<v Speaker 1>Mercy or judgment. Yeah, but he's he's say mercy and

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<v Speaker 1>compassion that I choose which are which are close cut?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, But then the whole idea of yeah, looking

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<v Speaker 3>looking at me, at my fate, my presence, you can't

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<v Speaker 3>even look me in the face. I mean, yeah, that

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<v Speaker 3>is that's really I mean, honestly, all I can say

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<v Speaker 3>that's awesome, like that is such a cool like picture

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<v Speaker 3>of God. Just say, you can't even see me, you can't,

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<v Speaker 3>like you're gonna have to turn my back, and even

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<v Speaker 3>then you're probably still gonna have a hard time comprehending

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<v Speaker 3>the majesty of my presence.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>So when I memorized all of this when I was

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<v Speaker 1>a young student, I just remember in the King James version,

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<v Speaker 1>in verse eighteen, instead of saying, then show me your

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<v Speaker 1>glorious presence, Moses said, then show me your glory. That's

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<v Speaker 1>all it says, right, show me your glory. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>and uh and so God God grants him this request,

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<v Speaker 1>and he says, I will show you my presence, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna I'm not gonna show you my face

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<v Speaker 1>because nobody can look upon my face. So so somehow

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<v Speaker 1>Moses hides in the cleft. It's another fancy where we

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<v Speaker 1>used cleft and the cleft of the rock, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>and somehow God covers his face with his hand, and

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<v Speaker 1>yet we know that God is spirit, right, so so

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this can either be symbolic, you know, because

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<v Speaker 1>you know it's not going to say covered Moses with

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<v Speaker 1>part of his spirit, right, so his hand, But somehow,

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<v Speaker 1>with God's presence he covered Moses's face and then and

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<v Speaker 1>then somehow he let him see the back of him.

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<v Speaker 1>So so I do wonder at times did God take

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<v Speaker 1>a form that Moses can identify with with hands and

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<v Speaker 1>with a back? You know? Was it more like a

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<v Speaker 1>like a like a foreshadowing of a Jesus form, right?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, that could have been it like the what's

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<v Speaker 1>it called when Jesus shows up in the Old Testament?

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<v Speaker 3>Christophanie?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Christophanie. So it's like so it could be one

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<v Speaker 1>of those things. But either way, Moses gets to be

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<v Speaker 1>a part of something that I don't think anybody else

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<v Speaker 1>besides the Transfiguration could even witness. And so Moses then

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<v Speaker 1>is seeing God's glorian So think about it. Man, of

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<v Speaker 1>all the people who have ever walked the face of

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<v Speaker 1>the earth, you know, Moses had that privilege because he

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<v Speaker 1>dared to ask.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I love that, right, Yeah, And I think I'm

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<v Speaker 3>glad you brought up the context earlier of what led

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<v Speaker 3>to this, because I think that matters a ton, right.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it was cool the way God was patient

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<v Speaker 3>with him, but also is just saying, like, ask for

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<v Speaker 3>my presence. And I think that we, as Christ's followers,

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<v Speaker 3>I think, isn't it so easy to get caught up

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<v Speaker 3>with the busyness of our lives and schedule and all

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<v Speaker 3>that stuff that we completely miss God's presence in like

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<v Speaker 3>everyday life. Even if for anybody who missed yesterday's episode,

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<v Speaker 3>Chris talked about going out and just being aware of

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<v Speaker 3>the fact that God is all around us. I do

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<v Speaker 3>think that there's like this thing we have in our

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<v Speaker 3>world where we're so busy, we're so distracted, there's so

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<v Speaker 3>much going on around us that we completely miss on

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<v Speaker 3>a miss God's goodness. Christin. My wife just started like

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<v Speaker 3>a year ago. She started doing this like thankfulness journal

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<v Speaker 3>where every morning she writes five things that she's thankful

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<v Speaker 3>for that she's I think it's gratitude journal. That's it,

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<v Speaker 3>five things that she's grateful for. And she says that

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<v Speaker 3>she looks forward to writing in her gratitude journal. And

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<v Speaker 3>then sometimes she even find herself like a knight or

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<v Speaker 3>witnessing something throughout the day saying oh, tomor I'm wanna

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<v Speaker 3>write that in my gratitude journal. So I'm like, man,

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<v Speaker 3>what a cool perspective that, Like, you're always looking for

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<v Speaker 3>things God's presence, things to be grateful for. And I

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<v Speaker 3>love that. Yeah, Like you mentioned that, Moses wasn't afraid

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<v Speaker 3>to ask God like show me your glory, show me

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<v Speaker 3>your presence. I want to see it. And and God

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<v Speaker 3>granted it because that God knew he needed to see that.

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<v Speaker 3>He needed, like you said, like a pick me up

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<v Speaker 3>to remember, like, hey, I'm with you. You need this.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I think that. I think that it's also

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<v Speaker 1>a demonstration, like you said you said earlier, that's also

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<v Speaker 1>a picture of who God is. Because God was so

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<v Speaker 1>patient in his response to Moses. You know, instead of

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<v Speaker 1>saying did I stutter, God says, yes, let me reassure

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<v Speaker 1>you the same exact thing, and then he goes even

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<v Speaker 1>this step further. He says the same thing to Moses, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll go with you, and then he goes further and says,

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<v Speaker 1>I look favorably upon you, and I know you by name,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that there's something very personal about that

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<v Speaker 1>where God is trying to let Moses know like, you

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<v Speaker 1>are seen, you are appreciated. I've asked you to do everything,

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<v Speaker 1>and you have done it. You've been my faithful servant.

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<v Speaker 1>And yes, of course Moses has gone through a heck

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<v Speaker 1>of a journey, right, and he's about to go through.

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<v Speaker 2>A heck of a lot worst journey, right.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, forty years of everything else, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's you know, it's not always easy. But yet

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<v Speaker 1>what God is saying is is you are seen, you

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<v Speaker 1>are loved, you are faithful, you are favored, and I

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<v Speaker 1>know you by name. And I think that that is

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<v Speaker 1>so unbelievably important for us to remember that God knows

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<v Speaker 1>us by name. So the Bible promises that every single

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<v Speaker 1>one of us today that it says actually that God

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<v Speaker 1>knows the number of hairs that are on your head,

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<v Speaker 1>and for me that gets less and less everything. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and so that number constantly changes. But He knows the

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<v Speaker 1>number of hairs are in your head. He knows the

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<v Speaker 1>Boble says in the New Testament. He knows our hearts

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<v Speaker 1>better than we know ourselves. He knows the depths of

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<v Speaker 1>who we are. He knows our every single part of

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<v Speaker 1>human nature. The Bible reveals that that that God has

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<v Speaker 1>this insight more than we even do ourselves. And God

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<v Speaker 1>knows us by name, and he loves us, and he

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<v Speaker 1>still accepts us and values us in spite of our sin,

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<v Speaker 1>in spite of our discouragement.

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<v Speaker 2>In spite of our you know, rebellion.

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to say cynicism, right, I mean, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of things have happened in our nation even that

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<v Speaker 1>are pretty discouraging, right, And I mean that's an understatement, right.

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<v Speaker 1>When I say pretty discouraging, I mean very discouraging. And

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<v Speaker 1>if and if not careful, you could let yourself just

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<v Speaker 1>go down that rabbit hole and say the whole world

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<v Speaker 1>is this way. And in some ways it kind of is.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what the Bible says, right, the world's gonna get worse.

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<v Speaker 1>But in a lot of ways we have to realize that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, sometimes you know, one action doesn't speak for

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<v Speaker 1>the majority of the human race, right, So I think

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<v Speaker 1>that sometimes we think it does, but I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>it does.

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<v Speaker 2>We know that the world's getting worse in a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of ways.

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<v Speaker 1>But all I'm really trying to say is the perspective

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<v Speaker 1>is Moses is letting the tragedies of the nation and

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<v Speaker 1>the discouragement of of of these, you know, atrocities in

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<v Speaker 1>the past keep him from believing, keep him from having faith,

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<v Speaker 1>keep him from trusting in God fully and so and

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<v Speaker 1>so that's why he says, God, if you don't go

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<v Speaker 1>with us, and God's like I just said, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>with you. So it's like, you know, no matter how

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<v Speaker 1>to discourage you are, and you have reason to be

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<v Speaker 1>Believe me, I'm not making light of those things. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>it's incredibly discouraging. I do think that what I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to say is God's presence is still with us. God's

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<v Speaker 1>promises are still the same. God's you know, reliability and

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<v Speaker 1>dependability are just as strong, right, and so no matter

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<v Speaker 1>what you're going through, no matter how discourage you are,

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<v Speaker 1>just know that God's promises are still just as true

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<v Speaker 1>today as they've ever been.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Good, great's great, dude, great truth right there?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah right there?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well, hey, that is our time for sure,

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<v Speaker 1>so we will see you hopefully next time on the Bible.

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<v Speaker 3>Guys. See it