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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun, in

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<v Speaker 1>practical ways. Hey, everybody, welcome to the Bible Guys.

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<v Speaker 2>It's good to be back.

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<v Speaker 1>We are so excited to be in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>a series talking about the beatitudes.

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<v Speaker 2>Beatitudes, Yes, which which are the the what nine phrases

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<v Speaker 2>that Jesus used to kick off his sermon on the Mountain? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>And if you think about even the name beatitudes, it's

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<v Speaker 1>the attitude of how we should be?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that the technical Yes? Is that the technical discs attitude?

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff, Okay, I'm fairly certain.

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<v Speaker 2>But before blessings? But yeah, that's okay, what ye?

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<v Speaker 1>Beatitude means blessings? Okay? Is that true?

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<v Speaker 2>I think so?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, you think so? Hey, listen, we are actually going

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<v Speaker 1>to play a game because we're actually launching into a

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<v Speaker 1>new beatitude today. And so Desiree is calling this this

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<v Speaker 1>scenario game. She said, here's how it reads, or this

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<v Speaker 1>how she typed it. Today, we're diving into the third

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<v Speaker 1>beatitude and it's all about strength under control. So let's

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<v Speaker 1>kick things off with a scenario game and ask is

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<v Speaker 1>this real strength or just chaos pretending to be confidence.

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<v Speaker 1>So she's given us five different scenarios in and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure how she wants us to play this, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're supposed to just talk about the scenario

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<v Speaker 1>and decide whether or not.

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<v Speaker 2>If we don't know how it's supposed to be played,

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<v Speaker 2>we get to make up the rules.

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<v Speaker 1>That's correct, right, But I guess we're asking the question

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<v Speaker 1>is this strength? Is this true strength?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>And maybe even let's add to the funny scenario, who

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<v Speaker 1>do we do this?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? Number one is you can open the pickle jar,

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<v Speaker 1>but instead you hand it to someone else so that

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<v Speaker 1>they can feel strong.

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<v Speaker 2>Never, that's true. Never, I never do that. There you go, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and then look at them like they're so weak.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, if someone with disdain, would you ever have somebody

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<v Speaker 1>a pickle jar to make them feel strong? I'm assuming

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<v Speaker 1>that means that we'd have to pretend like we couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>open it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like kids, kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Help me out with this, hey, and then they pop

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<v Speaker 1>it open. You're like, oh, you're so strong.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, maybe maybe, but not legitimately. Maybe you'd never give

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<v Speaker 3>it to Bonnie and be like, you know, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>want her thinking she's tougher than me. I'm already scared

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<v Speaker 3>of her.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever seen have you ever seen there? You go, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>have you ever seen that clip where the daughter's on

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<v Speaker 1>the cooking show and she can't and she's racing against like, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know whoever?

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<v Speaker 2>It is like Bobby fla.

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<v Speaker 1>Bobby flake, and she can't open the jar and so

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<v Speaker 1>she's opening she's trying really, really hard, and then she

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<v Speaker 1>runs over to her dad and the audience and the

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<v Speaker 1>day goes pops it open really and then and then

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<v Speaker 1>she runs back. It's like the sweetest father daughter moment ever.

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<v Speaker 2>That's awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>We're Dad's still the hero, you know. It's pretty fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that's a good one.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. How about this one? A car is going

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<v Speaker 1>ten under the speed limit in the left lane. It

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<v Speaker 1>says you could pass aggressively, but you put on worship

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<v Speaker 1>music and breathe.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are options. No, what I do is as I

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<v Speaker 2>try to tap their left bumper back bumper with my

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<v Speaker 2>right back bumper and spin them out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, spin them out like the police, dude, when they

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<v Speaker 1>pull somebody over, when they take somebody out. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta be honest with you. This is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>greatest pet peeves in life. It's the left lane. It's

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<v Speaker 1>called the passing lane for a reason.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's right, right, So if you're going you know

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<v Speaker 2>who does this Canadians, Oh, get out there in that

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<v Speaker 2>lane and just ride at like ten miles an hour

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<v Speaker 2>under the speed under the speed limit.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And by the way, it's I don't care if

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<v Speaker 1>you go ten on the speed limit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't even care if you right in the

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<v Speaker 1>left lane, just stay over it. If somebody comes behind

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<v Speaker 1>you and they're right on hotail, just move over, move right,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's called a passing lane people. And and by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, it's not your job to determine whether or not,

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<v Speaker 1>like if it's fifty five and you're going fifty five

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<v Speaker 1>in the left lane or forty five, I know. But

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm making another point, So.

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<v Speaker 2>You're you're driving the speed limit, it's not your job

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<v Speaker 2>to determine.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, whether whether or not I want to go above

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<v Speaker 1>the speed limit is not your concern.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's right, right.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're going to speed limit, it does not give

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<v Speaker 1>you the right to not let me pass in the

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<v Speaker 1>passing lists. That's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I agree, all right, yeah, that one. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>very meek. Yeah, so on the road. So this is

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<v Speaker 2>this is where I'm at my weakest. My most vulnerable

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<v Speaker 2>at bad attitudes are when I'm driving.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, I'm not saying we're playing this

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<v Speaker 1>game right, I don't even know if we're playing this right.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>But it would be a lot of strength for me

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<v Speaker 1>to not pass aggressively and turn on worship. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so I would call that true strength.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So okay, it would be, but it's not practically

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<v Speaker 2>how we live.

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<v Speaker 1>How about this one? Number three? You could correct someone's

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<v Speaker 1>Bible reference, but you let it go because the moment

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't need a hero.

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<v Speaker 2>The moment doesn't need a hero. It's very sounding verse

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<v Speaker 2>make me a hero.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know I need a hero.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's it's dangerous to allow scripture to be misused,

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<v Speaker 2>are misquoted. So it's pretty pretty rare. Now, if somebody says,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Ax says whatever, and it was actually Luke,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm probably not gonna say anything, right, but if they

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<v Speaker 2>misuse a scripture as proof of something, then I think

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<v Speaker 2>you have to correct them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I definitely do for sure, Yeah, because you

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<v Speaker 1>don't want God's word to be misrepresented. But I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think she's talking about that though, because she says Bible reference,

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<v Speaker 1>Bible reference, like, for instance, this happened last week in

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<v Speaker 1>the Bible. Guys, you said something wrong and I could

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<v Speaker 1>have jumped in, but I didn't, So I was, I was,

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<v Speaker 1>I was just.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't remember saying anything wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah you did, No, Yeah, it happened actually in the

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<v Speaker 1>same week. Ye remember, I remember, I remember, well the

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<v Speaker 1>Jeremiah one. Yeah, I'm referring to the other one. You

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<v Speaker 1>Actually it happened twice, but I didn't because I feel good.

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<v Speaker 2>Doesn't feel good?

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<v Speaker 1>Chris, Well, well, for every one time and I do

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<v Speaker 1>that to you, it's got to be five times for you, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So what was the second one? Uh, you've done this

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<v Speaker 1>before when you when when you talk about God's laws,

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<v Speaker 1>you say there's six hundred and seventeen laws, but there's

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<v Speaker 1>six hundred and thirteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you're right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah. But anyway, all that to say, I

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<v Speaker 1>said that before. I thought about saying six thirteen after

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<v Speaker 1>you said six seventeen, but I thought number one. The

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<v Speaker 1>moment was passed because you went right on to something else.

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<v Speaker 1>And then number two, I guess I decided that the

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<v Speaker 1>moment didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Need to hear you need a hero. You were the hero.

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<v Speaker 2>And then yeah, well you were a hero without us

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<v Speaker 2>even knowing it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, by not saying it. Yeah yeah, yeah, even though

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<v Speaker 1>I found a way to say it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, I got it back out. I pointed it out.

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<v Speaker 2>Not for nothing, but yeah, that's awesome. You've been sitting

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<v Speaker 2>on that a week.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, there's two more more.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone confidently misquotes a Bible verse, so that's what you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the same in the group chat.

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<v Speaker 1>You could drop the exact chapter in verse, but you

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<v Speaker 1>choose silence and let the word handle it. Now, that

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<v Speaker 1>is where we have to step in, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, you have to step in. You can't

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<v Speaker 2>let somebody misuse scripture.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Because the Bible is a sword. That's right, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>two sword. You can't just go willy nilly whipping a

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<v Speaker 2>sword all over the place. You're gonna hurt somebody with.

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<v Speaker 1>It, that's right. Yeah, that's pretty good. Yeah, I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's pretty good. Walk around swinging swords and cutting

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<v Speaker 1>people up. Yeah, for no reason?

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<v Speaker 2>Two knives.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then the last one says you resist the

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<v Speaker 1>urge to clap back in the group chat? Is that

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<v Speaker 1>when somebody sends the clapping emoji?

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<v Speaker 2>No that I think clapback is oh just snap just

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<v Speaker 2>to be aggressive back at somebody.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh clap back? Am I am I missing out on terms?

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<v Speaker 1>Did I just show my age?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? I don't know anyways, Yeah, like like gen Z language,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I don't know clap back.

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<v Speaker 1>I've not heard that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a standard phrase.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it? Is it older than me and you?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, here's what I do know. I also believe that

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<v Speaker 1>if you resist the urge to quote unquote clap back,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that is strength.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that takes a lot of maturity.

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<v Speaker 2>It takes a lot of maturity, a lot of a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of strength, which is what meekness is. Right, So

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<v Speaker 2>today we're kicking off this. There's a transition meekness.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a transition there.

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<v Speaker 2>It is. Yeah, and meekness oftentimes is mistaken for weakness, right,

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<v Speaker 2>but meekness isn't weakness. Meekness is strength under control.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's get a bumper sticker that says, meekness ain't weakness.

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<v Speaker 2>Meekness ain't weakness. That's right. So here's what Jesus says

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<v Speaker 2>in Matthew chapter five, verse five. Yes, so it says

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<v Speaker 2>in a New Living Translation it says, God blesses those

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<v Speaker 2>who are humble, for they will inherit the whole earth.

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<v Speaker 2>And other translations just say blessed are the meek. So

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<v Speaker 2>the reason why, for they will inherit your So the

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<v Speaker 2>reason why the New Living Translation is a thought for

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<v Speaker 2>thought translation, and it's translating it as humble, and like

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<v Speaker 2>the nasb the King James will translate it the meek

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<v Speaker 2>is because this the version of this word in Greek

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<v Speaker 2>leans towards humility. It's a humble strength, right that. That's

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<v Speaker 2>what we're talking about, as we talked about blessed are

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the actual Greek word is prows, which means strength

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's not timid, but it's disciplined.

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<v Speaker 2>But so you can just imagine the power and yet

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<v Speaker 2>and being under control. That's a great analogy. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, good job, Yeah, thanks, good job. Hey did you

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<v Speaker 1>know that in Numbers chapter twelve, Moses was called the

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I was going to reference Moses.

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<v Speaker 1>And yet he confronted Pharaoh and led a nation, so

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<v Speaker 1>he still had, you know, strength under control.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, nobody would say Moses was weak. Right at the beginning,

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<v Speaker 2>Moses was faking humility with God. Oh I'm not a

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<v Speaker 1>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he wasn't faking, and he was just using

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<v Speaker 2>they were a humble excuse. Oh I'm not a very

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<v Speaker 2>good speaker. Was not going to listen to me.

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<v Speaker 2>But Moses grew up in Pharaoh's household, he was the

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<v Speaker 2>it was amazing. Like every guy we traveled with could

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<v Speaker 2>and one had a master's in egyptology. One guy that

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<v Speaker 2>Kings over the past twenty five years. He's gonna lead

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<v Speaker 2>it this next summer. Right, These guys are geniuses, And

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<v Speaker 2>we began asking them who was Moses. We started leaning in,

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<v Speaker 2>If so, she had a vizier, you start going down

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<v Speaker 2>the story. She had this visier who just appears, but

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<v Speaker 2>There's all these accusations about her. It looks like that

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<v Speaker 2>would have been a reasonable time frame. There's another one

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<v Speaker 2>that might have worked as well, but the point being,

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<v Speaker 2>either one of the princesses that had Moses were very

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<v Speaker 2>all these things. He was light years ahead of the

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<v Speaker 2>light years ahead even though he was one of them.

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<v Speaker 2>He was. He was also a Hebrew, Yeah, but his

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<v Speaker 2>follow me because I'm a powerful man, right And instead

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<v Speaker 2>he served his people. He pled on their behalf. He

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<v Speaker 2>negotiated with God for them, he was willing to He

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<v Speaker 2>treated them like a father, where he was willing to

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<v Speaker 2>teach them God's ways. He pled with them to do

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<v Speaker 2>the right thing. He got mad sometimes too, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the the the even the idea that he would A

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<v Speaker 2>guy like him could almost feel like me leading all

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<v Speaker 2>these imbeciles through the desert for forty years as a

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<v Speaker 2>waste of my life, right, right, do you know who

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<v Speaker 2>I am or what I could have been? And this

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<v Speaker 2>him complaining about this, right, And I think that that's

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<v Speaker 2>the idea of Moses being the most meek person that

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<v Speaker 2>ever lived. He was so humble that he was willing

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<v Speaker 2>to serve all of his people, even in almost a

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<v Speaker 2>dead end kind of an experience. Because he never did

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<v Speaker 2>make it into the Promised Liane. He wandered on the

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<v Speaker 2>desert with them for forty years. I wonder what would

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<v Speaker 2>have happened if he just would have said, find God,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm done with them, let them find their own way.

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<v Speaker 1>Well he probably. My guess is he wouldn't have made it.

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<v Speaker 2>God, Well, there were a couple times when God was

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<v Speaker 2>done with them too. So if instead if when God's

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<v Speaker 2>there's one point where God says to Moses, Moses, get

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<v Speaker 2>out of the way. I'm gonna wipe them out and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to make then fulfill my promise to Abraham

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<v Speaker 2>through you and your Fami. And Moses is already mad.

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<v Speaker 1>At the people too, right, but he pleads anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>But instead he goes to his knees. He begs God,

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<v Speaker 2>please don't wipe out the people. Please, don't wipe out

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<v Speaker 2>the people. God just said, Hey, I'm gonna make you

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<v Speaker 2>the next Abraham, Right, why don't you just leave these

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<v Speaker 2>And why don't you go across into the promised Land?

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<v Speaker 2>And he could have accepted it. And he's the stepson

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<v Speaker 2>And he's like, no, no, God, it's all of us.

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<v Speaker 2>Are none of us?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Take us all. Don't ruin your reputation. People are going

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<v Speaker 2>to say, you just brought us out here to kill us.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's concerned about God's reputation in the world. He's

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<v Speaker 2>concerned about his people. This incredibly strong, powerful, skilled, capable

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<v Speaker 2>everything about his last forty years to serve these people.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's really incredible. It's a fair statement to say.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably one of the reasons why he was called the

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<v Speaker 1>meat referred to as the meekest person on earth is

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<v Speaker 1>having meekness is not lacking strength. It's a commitment not

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, right, yeah, yeah, so yeah, which is a

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<v Speaker 2>great way to say that, right, that that this this

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<v Speaker 2>idea of Okay. I was having a conversation with a

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<v Speaker 2>and we were he was talking about, uh, is this

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<v Speaker 2>heading don this row? And I said, within the context

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<v Speaker 2>of scripture, God sets up militaries for the freedom and

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<v Speaker 2>protection of the people, right, And so there are some

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<v Speaker 2>of us that are just wired to be teachers. There

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<v Speaker 2>are some of us that are wired to be just

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<v Speaker 2>to love the outdoors and be farmers. There's some of

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<v Speaker 2>us that are wired to be moms. There are some

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<v Speaker 2>of us that are just wired to be leaders. And

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<v Speaker 2>I said, I think that God has made warriors, and

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<v Speaker 2>people will go, oh, no, I don't think so really,

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<v Speaker 2>because the most common phrase if I ask you what's

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<v Speaker 2>the most common analogy for God in the Book of Psalms,

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<v Speaker 2>most people say, oh, a shepherd. The Lord is my shepherd.

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<v Speaker 2>but it's dozens and dozens and dozens of time. The

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<v Speaker 2>most common phrase is that he's the lord of Heaven's armies, right,

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<v Speaker 2>what does Heaven need armies for? Because there's a real

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<v Speaker 2>spiritual battle going on. The Bible references him as being

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<v Speaker 2>a warrior of Heaven. That's one of the natures of God.

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<v Speaker 2>And so, but what does a warrior do. A meek

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<v Speaker 2>warrior is strong strength, under control for the benefit of others.

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<v Speaker 2>A bad warrior is one who uses their strength and

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<v Speaker 1>Others or for their own glory.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. And I said, so, if you are designed

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<v Speaker 2>As long as you become as skilled and as powerful

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<v Speaker 2>for yourself. You use it for the benefit of others,

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<v Speaker 2>to protect them, to provide freedom, guarantee freedom, and serve

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<v Speaker 2>and protect other people. You do that and that is

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<v Speaker 2>a reflection of God. Right, So that is that's a

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<v Speaker 2>meek warrior. And I think that's what you found with

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<v Speaker 2>David a lot of times. That's what you found with

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<v Speaker 2>so many others in scripture. But yeah, Moses would be

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<v Speaker 1>So so another observation is, so you know, blessed of

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<v Speaker 1>the meek, for they show inherit the earth. The ultimate

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, right, so he had all authority and yet he

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<v Speaker 1>before his accusers and Isaiah fifty three talked about that.

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<v Speaker 1>He chose the cross instead of calling angels, he humble

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<v Speaker 1>self phlippings to humbled themselves. Yeah, I mean the cross

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<v Speaker 1>is the ultimate picture of meekness. Uh, you know, power

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<v Speaker 1>restrained for the sake of love. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's great. Yeah, that's a really good one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So this idea of like blessed of the meek,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not it's not weakness, it is it is God

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<v Speaker 1>is saying blessed to those who are willing to submit

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<v Speaker 1>to God's power, to submit to God's authority, to the

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<v Speaker 1>people who are willing to not seek out glory for

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<v Speaker 1>themselves but rather, you know, serve others with whatever influence,

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<v Speaker 2>As you go through these couple of chapters, uh, Matthew five,

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<v Speaker 2>loves everybody else. He loves the sinners, He loves the children,

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<v Speaker 2>He grieves over the city. Right, Jesus just loves everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>But he can't tolerate the hypocrites, the Pharisees, he can't tolerate.

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<v Speaker 2>He blasts them all the time, even in this past

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<v Speaker 2>we just read or tomorrow we're going to read where

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<v Speaker 2>he says, you hypocrites, right, he just he or was

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, and you hypocrites, right, take the beam out

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>So he just has this disdain for these people, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's interesting because he points them out when he talks

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<v Speaker 2>about prayer, when he talks about fasting, when he talks

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<v Speaker 2>about giving, he says, don't be like those Pharisees who

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<v Speaker 2>do it in front of everybody. Don't pray like those

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<v Speaker 2>farisies who have to blow trumpets to get everyboy's attention,

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<v Speaker 2>so they pray, don't don't, don't fast like those pharisees

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<v Speaker 2>to go around with the sad faces and the weak

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<v Speaker 2>actions to get everybody's attention. Right, So there's this. The

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<v Speaker 2>of God on the whole planet didn't go blow trumpets,

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<v Speaker 2>go everybody, come down, coon, I'm about ready to do

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<v Speaker 2>a miracle, watch this, right. He didn't do that. As

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<v Speaker 2>a matter of fact, when he raised the little girl

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<v Speaker 2>from the dead, he had everybody clear of the room

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<v Speaker 2>and just kept a couple of the.

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<v Speaker 1>Disciples Peter, James and John and the parents.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. Many many times he would turn to people and say,

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<v Speaker 2>don't tell anybody. He would do an incredible miracle and

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<v Speaker 2>say don't tell anybody. Right, And so you have this

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<v Speaker 2>humility that is attacked to this incredible power, and that

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<v Speaker 2>is that's meekness. Right. And then he was kind of

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<v Speaker 2>grossed out by, or not grossed out by, frustrated with

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<v Speaker 2>these people who had weak power but a lot of influence,

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<v Speaker 2>but and zero humility, right, right, and their pretenders, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's that's what we couldn't stand.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you know, most of the time, I always

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<v Speaker 1>I said this publicly and on the podcast before, I

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<v Speaker 1>always say that you have a tendency to give the

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<v Speaker 1>Pharisees more grace than I do, because you're, like, hey, man,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of them might have really been trying. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what they were taught. They were trying. They thought they

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<v Speaker 1>were trying to obey God. But Jesus so often calls

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<v Speaker 1>out their intentions.

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<v Speaker 2>He called them, he's called him hypocrites on the inside. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>every time he calls him, and he calls him out

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<v Speaker 2>on the inside, not in the outside.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Yeah, which means that they're you know, their motives

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<v Speaker 1>aren't great. And as we all know, you know, they

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<v Speaker 1>were also sort of responsible for plotting against Jesus and

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<v Speaker 1>trying to kill them and so and so. Yeah, their

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<v Speaker 1>hearts weren't good and so yeah, I think that the

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's part of the reason why I remember yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about who my favorite Bible character was, and

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<v Speaker 1>I said, Paul, because I really do. I identify with

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<v Speaker 1>people outside the church who love God in a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of ways more than the super religious leaders within the

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<v Speaker 1>church identify with those people, you know, just like you

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<v Speaker 1>said before, a beggar teaching another beggar where to find food, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and showing another beggar where to find food. That's that's

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<v Speaker 1>sort of how I view that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So you never find Jesus busting their chops over

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<v Speaker 2>their holy living. He busts their chops over their attitude

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<v Speaker 2>about their holy living, right, right. And so sometimes people

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<v Speaker 2>want to bash the Pharisee, want to bash anybody who

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<v Speaker 2>believes in holy living as being phariseical, and that's not true.

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<v Speaker 2>So Jesus never went after them over their holiness. He

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<v Speaker 2>went after them over their attitude about their holiness.

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<v Speaker 1>Which is which is believing they were better than that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>And then also, but choosing to be holy doesn't necessarily

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<v Speaker 2>mean that you think you're better than somebody, right, right.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the practice of either forcing people to be

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<v Speaker 1>like them to keep their rules, which strangles them, Jesus said,

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<v Speaker 1>or to look down upon them saying that they're not

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<v Speaker 1>as good.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's that superiority pride kind of thing, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. But what I hear sometimes in my pushback on

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<v Speaker 2>those things sometimes is when the Pharisees made rules about

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<v Speaker 2>rules about rules in order to obey the commandment. Yep,

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<v Speaker 2>there's already six hundred and thirteen commands. How about just

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<v Speaker 2>obey those?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>But I hear people not want to obey the commands

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<v Speaker 2>that are clear, saying, well, grace is my thing, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, only Pharisees are always trying to obey all

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<v Speaker 2>the rules, and that that's just not true. It's not true.

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<v Speaker 1>No, Jesus would definitely disagree with that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, And so I think we have to be

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<v Speaker 2>careful about how we smack the Pharisees. Jesus always smacked

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<v Speaker 2>them about being prideful and about putting on a show

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<v Speaker 2>and not having any spiritual power.

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<v Speaker 1>Not everybody who's holy is a Pharisee, that's right, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Those who are holy and downgrade others and and think

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<v Speaker 1>they're better than and flaunt their superiority and pride, those

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<v Speaker 1>are PHARISI.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah. And those of us that are choosing

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<v Speaker 2>to live and sin, we just have to make sure

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<v Speaker 2>that we're not mad at them because they're holy. That's right,

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<v Speaker 2>that's right, and we don't want to be that's great.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, that's our time so thanks for tuning in and hopefully.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, yeah, remember when you ask what beautitude means,

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<v Speaker 2>it means blessed.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that what it means.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what it means. You looked at it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's awesome, very cool. Okay, all right, Hey, we'll see

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<v Speaker 1>you next time on the Bible, guys,