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[MUSIC]

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Do you think you'd be

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interested in doing a podcast with me?

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I mean, it's laughable.

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No.

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Like and subscribe.

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But you're lame.

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I'm not gonna do the time of day.

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Oh, you think this is how you just waited

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for 30 year old Megan?

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Could not have done that.

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It's meant to have happened.

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I think football is made for snacking.

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You've got to sleep for napping.

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Yes.

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The whole point of the sports.

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You bet.

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You're a 40-degree.

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You're like 50-50 yoga and more.

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50-50 yoga.

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I am a female.

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That's crazy.

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Insane.

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We all know who that person is.

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We all have one of those.

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The stupid of juggernaut has been the

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term I've been talking about.

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Your job will be posted

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before you're obituary.

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Money has nothing to do with happiness.

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No.

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I'll get to that one later.

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Yeah.

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Whether that's healthy or not, Tonya.

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We basically work

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anytime we are not at soccer.

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[LAUGHTER]

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Four track.

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Episode 43, In the Books.

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In the Books.

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So here we go.

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Chow, chow.

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Nailed it.

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Nailed it.

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Welcome to the Mr. and

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Mrs. English Podcast.

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I'm Megan.

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And I'm Sean.

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We're here to talk about the wild ride of

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raising kids and growing careers, keeping

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life together in the

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middle of all the chaos.

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So buckle up because we're all in this

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crazy journey together.

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La, la, land, bippity, boppity.

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Boo.

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Boo.

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Here we go.

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I know.

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Episode 43, hun.

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Last year this time, did you ever think

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you'd be doing an episode?

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I mean, we had not considered doing a

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podcast and now we're on episode 43.

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43.

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No, no.

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I mean, I don't know

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that I thought about that.

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Although I'm trying to think like when

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was it last year that

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we started to think about

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it?

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It had to have been around this time.

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Yeah.

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I mean, it wasn't until after Christmas

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that it really kind of

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took shape, I think, because

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I was working on morning cereal just

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thinking because I've had

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those people that don't know

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I've had a bit of a career change.

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I've kind of retired from baking and I've

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been chasing dreams

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that I've always wanted

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to do something I'm passionate about.

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And I'm loving it.

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I haven't looked back one second.

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It's been exciting.

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But kind of in the midst of finding that

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pathway and what I want to do, I've had a

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little bit of that just I've got, what do

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you want to call it?

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A side to me that likes to create.

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Yeah, I've got a creative side to me.

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That's the easy way to say it.

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For sure.

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Yeah.

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Whether it's making logos and artistic.

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We talked about it a

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little bit last week.

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I had this whole thing of like somewhere

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inside of me, I was like,

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"Oh, I can be an actor."

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I do not want to be an actor.

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I do not want to be a, my intent is not

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to be a podcast, we're a YouTuber.

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But I thought this was something that

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might be able to get out

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some of my creative juices.

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And put some good juju out there.

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That's what morning

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cereal is about to some degree.

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Totally.

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And we get a few thousand

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people a week to tune into that.

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I feel like I'm just

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putting good jujus out there.

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It's just a good message.

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It's fun.

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It's lighthearted for the most part.

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And so that kind of came up, right?

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When I was like,

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"Well, what do I want to do?

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Here's the things I like.

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Here's some of the

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things I think I would enjoy."

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Right?

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And it kind of came up slightly, but

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surely because I was, I

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was actually scared to be

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like, "Hey, do you think you'd be

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interested in doing a podcast with me?"

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Because I honestly thought the answer

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would be to immediately be, "No."

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Not at all.

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It's funny.

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You were like approaching this.

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Like, "How do I ask a girl on a date?"

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Kind of a thing.

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Like, "I'm going to put out some feelers.

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Maybe she'll say yes.

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Maybe she'll bite."

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And then you were

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surprised when I said yes.

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Yeah.

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I mean, you were

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totally go for it though.

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I mean, it was, there

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was no talking you into it.

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No.

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It was almost as though

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you were like, I was waiting.

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I was wondering when you're going to ask.

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I'm pretty good when

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it comes to El Spico.

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Speaking.

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Speaking.

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Speaking. Speaking. Speaking. Was that Spanglish you were speaking?

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I'm not sure what it was.

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We're not sure, but that's okay.

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Yeah, no, I didn't think like, "Well,

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when were you going to ask me?"

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I was maybe surprised that

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you wanted to do it with me.

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And then it was like,

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"Well, yeah, I'd love to.

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This would be fun."

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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A lot of our friends and family were

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like, "Oh, that would be great."

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Because I think people think

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automatically when you're

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like, we don't even tell people

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we have a podcast.

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People find it out.

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I know.

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Just slowly but surely

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through the grapevine, right?

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It's not like we've gone out and be like,

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"Hey, everybody, we've got a podcast.

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Please smash that like button."

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Yeah.

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You know, we've never advertised it.

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Right.

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Like and subscribe.

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Right, exactly.

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That is definitely us.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Uh-huh.

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100%.

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You know, but when people find out, it's

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like, you know, I

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think people were surprised

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by it first off.

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I think so too.

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Secondly, you know, when they find out

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we've got one in early on,

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everybody was like, "Oh."

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Well, because my point was people think,

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"Well, you get a podcast

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because you want it to take

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off and you want to make, you know, a

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million dollars a year.

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That's what you want to do for a living."

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Great.

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If that happened, great.

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That was not the intention.

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No.

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And probably not the reality.

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Mm-hmm.

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But that's the way everybody thought

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about it at the beginning.

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It's like, "Oh, that's why

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you're doing a blah, blah, blah."

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I was like, "Oh, Megan and I

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are doing one, Mr. and Mrs."

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And they're like, "Oh, that

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one's going to be incredible.

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That's the one that's going to take off."

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You know?

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And I was like, "Do

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you know if it's taken?"

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You were like, "Thanks."

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The one I carry by myself is...

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Like, is just brushed aside.

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Yeah.

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"Bustura."

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Spanish for trash.

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Spanish for trash.

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Man, you were Spanish.

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It's just really kind of...

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Yeah.

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El Spico.

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So, anyways, I just thought that was

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funny because, you know,

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it's that kind of thing.

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That kind of thing that other

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people knew we were doing it.

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I was surprised you wanted to do it.

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I think your family doesn't talk to us

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about it, so I think they

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just don't even know what

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to do with it.

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I don't know what...

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Or they don't listen.

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Well, you know, I thought about that.

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I wouldn't...

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Let's just say one of your siblings or

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one of my siblings had a podcast.

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Honestly, I am so busy that I probably

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wouldn't take the time to listen to it.

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Not because I was like, "Oh, you're lame.

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I'm not going to give

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you the time of day."

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I actually thought about this.

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Right.

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I take zero offense that

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people close to us don't.

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I don't either.

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People, friends, sidelined people don't

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listen because, A, it's 45 minutes long.

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True.

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When do you...

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I mean, I don't have 45 minutes, do you?

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No.

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Right.

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We do this somewhat so we

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can spend time together.

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Exactly.

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You know?

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Exactly.

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Even our own siblings, though, I don't

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know that I would have

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time to listen to their

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45-minute podcast week in and week out.

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I agree.

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Right?

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I don't know when we

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would have time to do that.

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Right.

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The people that do it

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are like, "Hey, great.

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Thanks."

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01:07:07,083 --> 01:07:08,250
That's been a little bit of the hard

287
01:07:08,250 --> 01:07:09,750
part, is just trying to keep things...

288
01:07:10,750 --> 01:07:12,125
We could talk for hours.

289
01:07:12,416 --> 01:07:12,916
Of course.

290
01:07:12,916 --> 01:07:14,041
But we also want to talk about things

291
01:07:14,041 --> 01:07:15,250
that would be somewhat

292
01:07:15,250 --> 01:07:16,000
interesting for the people

293
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:16,958
that do listen to it.

294
01:07:17,291 --> 01:07:17,500
Yeah.

295
01:07:17,583 --> 01:07:17,791
Yeah.

296
01:07:19,250 --> 01:07:21,208
We try to bring up topics.

297
01:07:21,458 --> 01:07:22,541
We like to reminisce.

298
01:07:22,666 --> 01:07:24,541
People, I think, think

299
01:07:24,541 --> 01:07:26,916
some of the nostalgia part.

300
01:07:27,250 --> 01:07:29,583
I think part of it is just trying to be

301
01:07:29,583 --> 01:07:32,458
relatable because this is

302
01:07:32,458 --> 01:07:35,000
a busy time of life that

303
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:36,750
everybody has to go through.

304
01:07:37,166 --> 01:07:37,708
That's right.

305
01:07:40,041 --> 01:07:42,041
If I'm being honest, I actually told the

306
01:07:42,041 --> 01:07:43,208
two older kids this one

307
01:07:43,208 --> 01:07:44,916
day, I was like, "I wasn't

308
01:07:44,916 --> 01:07:47,250
prepared for just how

309
01:07:47,250 --> 01:07:50,250
taxing and chaotic it would be."

310
01:07:50,916 --> 01:07:52,500
I couldn't envision that.

311
01:07:53,250 --> 01:07:53,791
What would be?

312
01:07:54,750 --> 01:07:58,000
This phase of life and having pre-teens

313
01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:00,708
and teenagers while

314
01:08:00,708 --> 01:08:02,750
working a job, et cetera,

315
01:08:03,250 --> 01:08:03,458
I...

316
01:08:04,666 --> 01:08:05,000
Naively...

317
01:08:05,208 --> 01:08:06,166
Probably because I just

318
01:08:06,166 --> 01:08:07,041
didn't know any better.

319
01:08:07,041 --> 01:08:09,791
I always heard parents of teenagers, they

320
01:08:09,791 --> 01:08:10,708
would tell us when our

321
01:08:10,708 --> 01:08:12,458
kids were babies, "Oh,

322
01:08:12,458 --> 01:08:13,416
you think this is hard?

323
01:08:13,416 --> 01:08:13,916
You just wait.

324
01:08:14,708 --> 01:08:15,333
You just wait."

325
01:08:15,583 --> 01:08:15,791
Yeah.

326
01:08:16,500 --> 01:08:16,708
Yeah.

327
01:08:16,750 --> 01:08:18,500
Now I'm like, "Oh, wow.

328
01:08:19,208 --> 01:08:20,708
They told me just wait because they

329
01:08:20,708 --> 01:08:22,166
couldn't actually put into words."

330
01:08:22,458 --> 01:08:22,666
Yeah.

331
01:08:23,791 --> 01:08:24,041
Yeah.

332
01:08:24,458 --> 01:08:27,000
I mean, it's just how chaotic, how

333
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:30,416
taxing, but how wonderful it is.

334
01:08:31,500 --> 01:08:32,291
That's the beauty of

335
01:08:32,291 --> 01:08:33,333
this whole thing though.

336
01:08:34,750 --> 01:08:38,750
This is a time that

337
01:08:38,750 --> 01:08:39,583
everybody goes through.

338
01:08:39,833 --> 01:08:40,083
Yes.

339
01:08:40,583 --> 01:08:40,791
Right?

340
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:43,833
This is a stepping stone that everybody

341
01:08:43,833 --> 01:08:45,125
that has chosen to have

342
01:08:45,125 --> 01:08:47,291
children and is living

343
01:08:47,291 --> 01:08:49,541
in a certain way, but in one way or

344
01:08:49,541 --> 01:08:51,208
another, they step on this beach.

345
01:08:51,458 --> 01:08:52,000
I can't think of a

346
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:52,833
better metaphor, right?

347
01:08:53,083 --> 01:08:54,333
But they spend some time here.

348
01:08:54,666 --> 01:08:54,875
They do.

349
01:08:55,250 --> 01:08:55,500
Right?

350
01:08:55,500 --> 01:08:56,500
And then they make their way through it.

351
01:08:56,791 --> 01:08:58,166
Some of the older listeners, they've been

352
01:08:58,166 --> 01:08:59,041
there, they've done it, and they're like,

353
01:08:59,208 --> 01:09:00,000
"Yeah, I know.

354
01:09:00,750 --> 01:09:01,125
Just wait.

355
01:09:01,125 --> 01:09:02,458
Just wait till this, to wait till this."

356
01:09:02,458 --> 01:09:02,583
Right?

357
01:09:02,583 --> 01:09:02,791
Yeah.

358
01:09:03,166 --> 01:09:04,333
Because it is true.

359
01:09:05,666 --> 01:09:07,000
People look back and say, "Wait till you

360
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:07,916
see this," just like you said.

361
01:09:08,375 --> 01:09:08,458
Right?

362
01:09:08,458 --> 01:09:09,125
Like, "You thought that was

363
01:09:09,125 --> 01:09:10,208
a hard way to get to this."

364
01:09:10,208 --> 01:09:10,458
Yeah.

365
01:09:10,833 --> 01:09:12,750
And very, I think,

366
01:09:12,958 --> 01:09:14,666
apropos, we've named...

367
01:09:15,750 --> 01:09:16,875
We've kind of named our

368
01:09:16,875 --> 01:09:19,000
podcast after the chaos train.

369
01:09:19,000 --> 01:09:19,291
Right.

370
01:09:19,708 --> 01:09:19,958
Right.

371
01:09:21,500 --> 01:09:24,541
This series, this beach of our life, this

372
01:09:24,541 --> 01:09:27,458
part of our life, is just chaotic.

373
01:09:27,458 --> 01:09:28,541
And we don't say it to be,

374
01:09:28,541 --> 01:09:29,583
"We're more chaotic than you.

375
01:09:29,583 --> 01:09:30,333
We're more chaotic than that person."

376
01:09:31,666 --> 01:09:32,875
I think everybody that's in the same

377
01:09:32,875 --> 01:09:33,875
stage of life, on the

378
01:09:33,875 --> 01:09:36,291
same beach, is running crazy,

379
01:09:36,583 --> 01:09:37,500
just like we are.

380
01:09:37,500 --> 01:09:39,333
And I know a lot of people that are.

381
01:09:39,666 --> 01:09:40,041
Oh, yeah.

382
01:09:40,500 --> 01:09:41,708
I know people who are more so.

383
01:09:41,708 --> 01:09:43,041
I know people who are less so, but it's

384
01:09:43,041 --> 01:09:44,500
like, you have reached out.

385
01:09:44,500 --> 01:09:46,708
It's like, this is just what

386
01:09:46,708 --> 01:09:48,000
it is at this phase of life.

387
01:09:48,083 --> 01:09:49,541
And that's one of the reasons why we

388
01:09:49,541 --> 01:09:50,541
wanted to do this, because

389
01:09:50,541 --> 01:09:52,208
it's like, we talk through

390
01:09:52,208 --> 01:09:55,958
it and like, how do we get through all

391
01:09:55,958 --> 01:09:57,500
the logistics of a day?

392
01:09:57,500 --> 01:09:59,666
And how do we juggle spending time

393
01:09:59,666 --> 01:10:00,833
equally with the kids?

394
01:10:00,833 --> 01:10:03,250
How do we continue to invest time in our

395
01:10:03,250 --> 01:10:04,666
marriage, but yet still

396
01:10:04,666 --> 01:10:07,583
hold down jobs, launch new

397
01:10:07,583 --> 01:10:09,791
careers, build a

398
01:10:09,791 --> 01:10:10,916
house, for crying out loud?

399
01:10:11,166 --> 01:10:13,083
It's building back that onion a little

400
01:10:13,083 --> 01:10:14,500
bit, right, of all those

401
01:10:14,500 --> 01:10:15,333
things that people take

402
01:10:15,333 --> 01:10:15,666
on.

403
01:10:16,333 --> 01:10:18,541
And I think I was just saying to you,

404
01:10:18,541 --> 01:10:19,125
just right before we

405
01:10:19,125 --> 01:10:20,000
came in here, I was like,

406
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:21,166
"Who would have thought when we were 25

407
01:10:21,166 --> 01:10:21,708
years old, we'd be

408
01:10:21,708 --> 01:10:22,500
doing what we're doing right

409
01:10:22,500 --> 01:10:22,833
now?"

410
01:10:23,083 --> 01:10:23,333
Right.

411
01:10:24,083 --> 01:10:25,750
Or when we're 33 years old, doing what

412
01:10:25,750 --> 01:10:26,500
we're doing right now.

413
01:10:26,500 --> 01:10:27,708
Maybe even 39 years old.

414
01:10:27,708 --> 01:10:29,166
I mean, that was still half

415
01:10:29,166 --> 01:10:30,666
a decade or more ago for us.

416
01:10:31,333 --> 01:10:31,541
Yeah.

417
01:10:32,041 --> 01:10:34,791
And I don't mean from a career

418
01:10:34,791 --> 01:10:35,833
standpoint, I don't mean

419
01:10:35,833 --> 01:10:37,291
from an economic standpoint,

420
01:10:37,291 --> 01:10:40,458
I just mean from a sheer, everything we

421
01:10:40,458 --> 01:10:41,375
get done to keep going

422
01:10:41,375 --> 01:10:43,375
in a day, just to keep

423
01:10:43,375 --> 01:10:44,458
moving forward in life.

424
01:10:45,291 --> 01:10:48,375
We've, there's no way that 30 year old

425
01:10:48,375 --> 01:10:49,125
Sean or 40 year old

426
01:10:49,125 --> 01:10:49,875
Sean, I think would have been

427
01:10:49,875 --> 01:10:51,083
able to do what we're doing today.

428
01:10:51,625 --> 01:10:51,833
No.

429
01:10:52,250 --> 01:10:52,458
Right?

430
01:10:52,666 --> 01:10:53,291
Do you feel that way?

431
01:10:53,291 --> 01:10:54,333
Because you've had to lay it in.

432
01:10:54,541 --> 01:10:55,000
Yeah, no.

433
01:10:55,375 --> 01:10:56,916
And when I say no, I had

434
01:10:56,916 --> 01:10:59,083
full confidence you could do it.

435
01:10:59,333 --> 01:10:59,583
I could.

436
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:00,875
30 year old Megan.

437
01:11:01,250 --> 01:11:03,000
Sean, you were really struggling.

438
01:11:04,333 --> 01:11:05,125
You've always been my

439
01:11:05,125 --> 01:11:06,250
rock and you know it.

440
01:11:07,166 --> 01:11:09,708
I look at that like 30 year old Megan

441
01:11:09,708 --> 01:11:11,000
could not have done that.

442
01:11:11,583 --> 01:11:13,916
I just, I think about what I

443
01:11:13,916 --> 01:11:15,750
thought a busy weekend was.

444
01:11:16,583 --> 01:11:16,791
Yeah.

445
01:11:17,083 --> 01:11:20,041
And you're like, it's laughable.

446
01:11:20,500 --> 01:11:21,208
We used to take naps.

447
01:11:21,208 --> 01:11:22,625
If you used to take naps, I never took

448
01:11:22,625 --> 01:11:23,708
naps till I met you.

449
01:11:24,416 --> 01:11:25,041
Before we had children

450
01:11:25,041 --> 01:11:25,958
and then we took naps.

451
01:11:26,208 --> 01:11:26,833
We took naps.

452
01:11:26,833 --> 01:11:27,208
On weekends.

453
01:11:27,541 --> 01:11:29,000
I was like, gosh, kind of sleepy.

454
01:11:29,250 --> 01:11:30,041
I think I might fall asleep

455
01:11:30,041 --> 01:11:31,000
during this football game.

456
01:11:31,416 --> 01:11:31,625
Yeah.

457
01:11:32,083 --> 01:11:32,291
What?

458
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:33,208
Yeah.

459
01:11:33,958 --> 01:11:34,208
Oh yeah.

460
01:11:34,458 --> 01:11:36,625
Golf is the best sport to sleep through.

461
01:11:36,958 --> 01:11:38,500
I mean, they whisper even on the.

462
01:11:38,500 --> 01:11:38,750
Yeah.

463
01:11:39,041 --> 01:11:39,750
It's meant for that.

464
01:11:40,541 --> 01:11:41,791
Football is made for snacking.

465
01:11:42,666 --> 01:11:43,458
Golf is made for napping.

466
01:11:43,750 --> 01:11:43,958
Yes.

467
01:11:44,250 --> 01:11:44,458
Yeah.

468
01:11:45,125 --> 01:11:45,833
Whole point of the sports.

469
01:11:46,333 --> 01:11:46,541
Exactly.

470
01:11:47,750 --> 01:11:49,000
You know, but you start thinking about

471
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:49,791
all those things that

472
01:11:49,791 --> 01:11:51,791
we do now, which is just

473
01:11:51,791 --> 01:11:53,041
crazy because once you get to this age

474
01:11:53,041 --> 01:11:53,791
and everybody else is

475
01:11:53,791 --> 01:11:54,750
here too, but it's like,

476
01:11:54,750 --> 01:11:57,375
it's not just so family and

477
01:11:57,375 --> 01:11:58,708
career kind of head that out.

478
01:11:59,041 --> 01:11:59,375
Right.

479
01:12:00,333 --> 01:12:02,125
So career, we're both worker.

480
01:12:02,375 --> 01:12:03,000
We both work.

481
01:12:03,541 --> 01:12:03,750
Yeah.

482
01:12:04,416 --> 01:12:05,083
You know, we're both

483
01:12:05,083 --> 01:12:06,166
corporate for a long time.

484
01:12:06,166 --> 01:12:06,916
You're still corporate.

485
01:12:06,916 --> 01:12:07,708
I'm now self-employed.

486
01:12:08,833 --> 01:12:10,875
There's still a lot of pressure on that.

487
01:12:11,375 --> 01:12:11,583
Yeah.

488
01:12:11,666 --> 01:12:13,833
On both of us for many reasons, right?

489
01:12:13,833 --> 01:12:14,333
We're so great.

490
01:12:14,333 --> 01:12:14,916
We just have to bring in a

491
01:12:14,916 --> 01:12:16,083
certain level of cash flow.

492
01:12:16,083 --> 01:12:17,291
We know what our bills are, all that kind

493
01:12:17,291 --> 01:12:19,333
of stuff, but you're

494
01:12:19,333 --> 01:12:21,541
wanting to grow a career,

495
01:12:22,041 --> 01:12:22,375
right?

496
01:12:22,375 --> 01:12:23,625
So you're making a name for yourself.

497
01:12:23,916 --> 01:12:25,875
You're checking the boxes in the

498
01:12:25,875 --> 01:12:27,916
corporate world, which

499
01:12:27,916 --> 01:12:29,000
we've talked about many times

500
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:29,291
before.

501
01:12:29,833 --> 01:12:30,500
People on the sideline

502
01:12:30,500 --> 01:12:32,000
don't know that side of Megan.

503
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:33,291
No.

504
01:12:33,666 --> 01:12:34,750
And they didn't, they don't know that

505
01:12:34,750 --> 01:12:35,500
side of Shawn either.

506
01:12:35,750 --> 01:12:36,708
You know, they don't.

507
01:12:37,208 --> 01:12:38,250
People in your personal life don't know

508
01:12:38,250 --> 01:12:40,250
who you are in your professional life.

509
01:12:40,500 --> 01:12:42,500
And, or, and I think it's

510
01:12:42,500 --> 01:12:43,791
kind of nice to keep it that way.

511
01:12:43,791 --> 01:12:44,916
Otherwise sometimes you're like, well,

512
01:12:44,916 --> 01:12:46,750
you're a hoity twitty jerk.

513
01:12:47,250 --> 01:12:47,458
Yeah.

514
01:12:47,791 --> 01:12:49,250
But I know it's on a scale there though,

515
01:12:49,250 --> 01:12:49,625
but like what

516
01:12:49,625 --> 01:12:50,791
percentage of your time do you

517
01:12:50,791 --> 01:12:55,416
think you're using on a weekly basis, a

518
01:12:55,416 --> 01:12:56,125
hundred percent of your

519
01:12:56,125 --> 01:12:57,708
time on a weekly basis goes

520
01:12:57,708 --> 01:12:59,166
to a career towards career.

521
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:01,250
What effort is towards career?

522
01:13:01,958 --> 01:13:02,791
Oh my gosh.

523
01:13:03,333 --> 01:13:06,458
Knowing, knowing that you, you were,

524
01:13:06,458 --> 01:13:07,500
you're working like 14,

525
01:13:07,500 --> 01:13:08,583
15 hour days right now.

526
01:13:08,583 --> 01:13:10,375
It's just, I've never seen you in a

527
01:13:10,375 --> 01:13:11,750
busier season at work.

528
01:13:12,166 --> 01:13:12,416
Yeah.

529
01:13:12,416 --> 01:13:13,500
It's busy right now.

530
01:13:13,500 --> 01:13:13,750
Yeah.

531
01:13:13,750 --> 01:13:16,458
It is really busy and it comes at the

532
01:13:16,458 --> 01:13:17,708
cost of sleep because I'm

533
01:13:17,708 --> 01:13:18,708
not willing to sacrifice

534
01:13:18,750 --> 01:13:19,250
family.

535
01:13:19,250 --> 01:13:21,750
So it usually comes at the cost of sleep.

536
01:13:22,166 --> 01:13:22,375
Yeah.

537
01:13:23,291 --> 01:13:24,750
Um, so it's like, I'll say goodnight to

538
01:13:24,750 --> 01:13:26,125
you and head to the office.

539
01:13:26,458 --> 01:13:27,833
You know, I almost always work through a

540
01:13:27,833 --> 01:13:28,833
soccer practice anymore.

541
01:13:29,750 --> 01:13:31,166
It's just a foregone conclusion.

542
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:36,041
Um, you know, but I don't even know.

543
01:13:36,041 --> 01:13:37,291
I don't know as a percent

544
01:13:37,291 --> 01:13:38,416
of hours, what that equals.

545
01:13:38,625 --> 01:13:40,125
It's a huge part of time.

546
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:41,500
Greater than 50.

547
01:13:41,958 --> 01:13:42,750
Yeah, absolutely.

548
01:13:43,625 --> 01:13:44,708
Probably 85.

549
01:13:46,583 --> 01:13:47,291
Hey, you spent a lot

550
01:13:47,291 --> 01:13:49,166
of waking hours working.

551
01:13:49,708 --> 01:13:50,500
My point here is this

552
01:13:50,500 --> 01:13:51,750
is just how busy life is.

553
01:13:51,750 --> 01:13:52,125
So I mean, like

554
01:13:52,125 --> 01:13:53,875
literally it's 85% of your time.

555
01:13:54,125 --> 01:13:55,875
Let's just even round down to 80% of your

556
01:13:55,875 --> 01:13:57,833
time is on your career.

557
01:13:58,166 --> 01:13:58,416
Yeah.

558
01:13:59,541 --> 01:14:01,500
Which is incredibly

559
01:14:01,500 --> 01:14:02,791
important to both of us.

560
01:14:03,208 --> 01:14:03,416
Right.

561
01:14:03,791 --> 01:14:05,208
I've probably spent about the same time.

562
01:14:05,208 --> 01:14:05,416
Yeah.

563
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:06,166
Absolutely.

564
01:14:06,625 --> 01:14:06,916
You do.

565
01:14:07,583 --> 01:14:08,333
If not more sometimes.

566
01:14:08,541 --> 01:14:09,166
The best of it's on yoga.

567
01:14:11,666 --> 01:14:14,875
I'm about 50, 50 yoga and work.

568
01:14:14,875 --> 01:14:15,791
50, 50 yoga and work.

569
01:14:15,791 --> 01:14:17,500
Uh, no, I'm kidding.

570
01:14:17,916 --> 01:14:18,125
Obviously.

571
01:14:18,416 --> 01:14:19,750
Although yoga would be nice to

572
01:14:19,750 --> 01:14:20,625
fit in at some point in time.

573
01:14:20,625 --> 01:14:21,583
Yoga would be really

574
01:14:21,583 --> 01:14:22,458
nice to fit in sometime.

575
01:14:22,833 --> 01:14:23,041
Yeah.

576
01:14:23,625 --> 01:14:25,708
So, but, but career is always secondary

577
01:14:25,708 --> 01:14:28,458
to, I mean, our family.

578
01:14:28,500 --> 01:14:33,333
But yet we were spending just inordinate

579
01:14:33,333 --> 01:14:35,500
amounts of unbalanced time doing that.

580
01:14:35,500 --> 01:14:36,250
Now I know that pays the

581
01:14:36,250 --> 01:14:37,208
bills and all that kind of stuff.

582
01:14:37,208 --> 01:14:37,875
And that's what, yeah.

583
01:14:38,291 --> 01:14:41,000
40 hour work weeks or 80 hour work weeks.

584
01:14:42,125 --> 01:14:42,333
Yeah.

585
01:14:42,541 --> 01:14:44,708
That's how we put food on the table and

586
01:14:44,708 --> 01:14:46,500
buy new soccer shoes for

587
01:14:46,500 --> 01:14:47,666
these kids that are $300

588
01:14:48,416 --> 01:14:49,125
each now people.

589
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:50,541
That's crazy.

590
01:14:51,041 --> 01:14:51,291
Insane.

591
01:14:51,958 --> 01:14:52,666
Side bit here.

592
01:14:52,916 --> 01:14:55,041
My shoes, when I played basketball in

593
01:14:55,041 --> 01:14:55,666
high school, were like

594
01:14:55,666 --> 01:14:57,291
110 bucks, which was a ton

595
01:14:57,291 --> 01:14:57,708
of money.

596
01:14:58,291 --> 01:14:58,875
I got flights.

597
01:14:59,083 --> 01:15:00,416
I couldn't afford Air Jordans or Jordans

598
01:15:00,416 --> 01:15:01,958
like 135 back then or

599
01:15:01,958 --> 01:15:02,875
something like that, which

600
01:15:02,875 --> 01:15:04,083
I don't know that they've changed much.

601
01:15:04,375 --> 01:15:06,458
I'm not in the market for Air Jordans

602
01:15:06,458 --> 01:15:07,625
anymore, but they're

603
01:15:07,625 --> 01:15:10,083
probably closer to $200 now I

604
01:15:10,083 --> 01:15:10,500
would guess.

605
01:15:10,750 --> 01:15:10,958
Yeah.

606
01:15:10,958 --> 01:15:11,083
Right.

607
01:15:11,083 --> 01:15:12,625
Which is an expensive shoe.

608
01:15:12,916 --> 01:15:14,500
It's an expensive shoe.

609
01:15:14,958 --> 01:15:15,250
Right.

610
01:15:15,250 --> 01:15:18,000
Now I've had some expensive work shoes.

611
01:15:18,791 --> 01:15:19,000
Sure.

612
01:15:19,500 --> 01:15:21,125
You know that when you walk down a hall,

613
01:15:21,125 --> 01:15:21,625
everybody knows you're

614
01:15:21,625 --> 01:15:22,208
there because you're, because

615
01:15:22,208 --> 01:15:23,375
you click, click, click, click.

616
01:15:25,458 --> 01:15:25,833
Yeah.

617
01:15:25,833 --> 01:15:27,291
I don't know that I've ever owned a pair

618
01:15:27,291 --> 01:15:28,375
of $300 shoes and we

619
01:15:28,375 --> 01:15:29,958
buy our kids $300 shoes

620
01:15:30,125 --> 01:15:31,125
every six months.

621
01:15:32,166 --> 01:15:33,708
I am a female who actually

622
01:15:33,708 --> 01:15:36,458
worked in fashion basically.

623
01:15:36,791 --> 01:15:37,958
I still have never had

624
01:15:37,958 --> 01:15:39,250
a $300 pair of shoes.

625
01:15:39,583 --> 01:15:39,791
Yeah.

626
01:15:40,208 --> 01:15:40,416
200.

627
01:15:40,625 --> 01:15:40,833
Yeah.

628
01:15:41,041 --> 01:15:42,583
Well, I don't think

629
01:15:42,583 --> 01:15:43,958
Target's carrying manila blanks.

630
01:15:44,416 --> 01:15:46,416
No, no, but I did.

631
01:15:46,416 --> 01:15:46,750
Did I say that right?

632
01:15:47,458 --> 01:15:47,750
Yeah.

633
01:15:48,291 --> 01:15:48,583
Yeah.

634
01:15:48,833 --> 01:15:49,250
That's pretty good.

635
01:15:49,375 --> 01:15:49,916
Manila Blonix.

636
01:15:50,375 --> 01:15:51,125
Oh, Balonix.

637
01:15:51,125 --> 01:15:51,791
I got the blanks.

638
01:15:52,416 --> 01:15:52,958
That's great.

639
01:15:52,958 --> 01:15:53,625
I pulled that out.

640
01:15:55,333 --> 01:15:55,708
You're good.

641
01:15:56,708 --> 01:15:58,333
And you owned it.

642
01:15:59,375 --> 01:15:59,541
Sorry.

643
01:15:59,750 --> 01:16:00,625
I had to pat myself on

644
01:16:00,625 --> 01:16:01,791
the back and I exposed it.

645
01:16:02,166 --> 01:16:03,791
I thought it was really good.

646
01:16:05,375 --> 01:16:09,458
Anyways, that was a side note too, to the

647
01:16:09,458 --> 01:16:11,125
fact that, what was the side note to?

648
01:16:11,416 --> 01:16:12,958
I interrupted our main train of thought.

649
01:16:12,958 --> 01:16:14,708
Oh, just how you put food on the table

650
01:16:14,708 --> 01:16:16,500
and you pay for all this stuff, right?

651
01:16:16,500 --> 01:16:16,708
Oh, yeah, made paper

652
01:16:16,708 --> 01:16:17,708
shoes and stuff like that.

653
01:16:17,958 --> 01:16:20,500
So, I just think of all the things that

654
01:16:20,500 --> 01:16:21,916
we layer on that

655
01:16:21,916 --> 01:16:22,875
everybody that's watching this

656
01:16:22,916 --> 01:16:25,250
at some point is going to do or is in the

657
01:16:25,250 --> 01:16:27,416
middle of, is already done, career.

658
01:16:27,791 --> 01:16:28,250
It's just huge.

659
01:16:28,541 --> 01:16:30,083
We are in the highest

660
01:16:30,083 --> 01:16:32,875
earning years of our lives.

661
01:16:32,875 --> 01:16:33,083
Yup.

662
01:16:33,333 --> 01:16:33,500
Right?

663
01:16:33,875 --> 01:16:35,500
Mid 40s to mid 50s.

664
01:16:35,500 --> 01:16:35,708
Yeah.

665
01:16:35,916 --> 01:16:36,625
To late 50s maybe.

666
01:16:37,166 --> 01:16:39,125
And I walked away from a very good career

667
01:16:39,125 --> 01:16:40,125
to do another career.

668
01:16:40,375 --> 01:16:40,541
Yeah.

669
01:16:41,041 --> 01:16:44,041
So, that's been a scary road for us this

670
01:16:44,041 --> 01:16:45,000
last year, but I think

671
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:46,458
we're going to be good.

672
01:16:46,708 --> 01:16:46,958
Right.

673
01:16:47,291 --> 01:16:47,500
Right.

674
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:49,458
So, career.

675
01:16:49,750 --> 01:16:50,541
That's huge for us.

676
01:16:51,250 --> 01:16:53,708
The ebbs and flows of that are stressful.

677
01:16:54,333 --> 01:16:54,583
It is.

678
01:16:55,208 --> 01:17:00,208
Like, the pressure of a day is, I mean, I

679
01:17:00,208 --> 01:17:01,583
do try to balance and

680
01:17:01,583 --> 01:17:03,625
walk away and not let

681
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:06,625
the pressure of a day of, "Oh, this was a

682
01:17:06,625 --> 01:17:08,125
mistake," or even

683
01:17:08,125 --> 01:17:09,500
just the expectations of,

684
01:17:09,750 --> 01:17:11,541
"Hey, so and so needs this and they need

685
01:17:11,541 --> 01:17:13,916
it now," and those types of things.

686
01:17:15,041 --> 01:17:17,250
And being able to just shut that down

687
01:17:17,250 --> 01:17:20,166
immediately because there is pressure.

688
01:17:21,083 --> 01:17:22,500
Shut it down so that your kids don't see

689
01:17:22,500 --> 01:17:23,875
it, so that you don't see it.

690
01:17:23,875 --> 01:17:24,041
Yeah.

691
01:17:24,666 --> 01:17:26,125
And you're really good at doing that.

692
01:17:26,125 --> 01:17:27,500
I'm not really as good at doing that.

693
01:17:27,500 --> 01:17:29,125
I carry things with me too long.

694
01:17:29,500 --> 01:17:31,083
You can be like, "I'll put this little

695
01:17:31,083 --> 01:17:31,916
one in a compartment

696
01:17:31,916 --> 01:17:33,000
right up here for it and

697
01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:34,250
I'll get to that later."

698
01:17:34,250 --> 01:17:35,166
I'll get to that one later.

699
01:17:35,500 --> 01:17:35,583
Yeah.

700
01:17:35,583 --> 01:17:37,000
Whether that's a healthy or not, that's

701
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:38,500
another question I think.

702
01:17:38,500 --> 01:17:40,291
I think you're probably right.

703
01:17:41,041 --> 01:17:42,125
I think the thing that helps with that

704
01:17:42,125 --> 01:17:43,000
though sometimes is I

705
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:44,000
had a buddy I used to work

706
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:45,791
with, Mark, in Unihome Talk.

707
01:17:45,791 --> 01:17:46,000
Yeah.

708
01:17:46,291 --> 01:17:48,250
He'll know if he sees this or whatnot,

709
01:17:48,250 --> 01:17:48,833
but he used to always

710
01:17:48,833 --> 01:17:50,125
say, "Hey, look, if I get

711
01:17:50,208 --> 01:17:51,000
to buy a bus tomorrow,

712
01:17:51,458 --> 01:17:52,166
the bank's going to open.

713
01:17:52,708 --> 01:17:53,875
My clients are going to

714
01:17:53,875 --> 01:17:55,000
still conduct business.

715
01:17:55,375 --> 01:17:56,000
Things will go on."

716
01:17:56,333 --> 01:17:58,666
And so when things really get pushed,

717
01:17:58,666 --> 01:17:59,250
comes to shove

718
01:17:59,250 --> 01:18:00,333
sometimes, it's like, "You know

719
01:18:00,333 --> 01:18:00,500
what?

720
01:18:00,750 --> 01:18:02,583
If you need to walk away for an hour,

721
01:18:03,166 --> 01:18:04,583
walk away because the

722
01:18:04,583 --> 01:18:05,541
company's going to be okay."

723
01:18:05,541 --> 01:18:05,791
Yeah.

724
01:18:06,208 --> 01:18:06,416
Yeah.

725
01:18:06,625 --> 01:18:08,500
I saw one time they were like, "Your job

726
01:18:08,500 --> 01:18:10,000
will be posted before you're obituary."

727
01:18:10,375 --> 01:18:12,041
And you're like, "Oh."

728
01:18:12,666 --> 01:18:13,958
That is true.

729
01:18:14,166 --> 01:18:14,833
That is very true.

730
01:18:15,166 --> 01:18:15,375
Yeah.

731
01:18:15,750 --> 01:18:16,791
And it was helpful when I

732
01:18:16,791 --> 01:18:18,041
worked for Target Corporation.

733
01:18:18,666 --> 01:18:20,208
We had a saying, and it was just like,

734
01:18:20,208 --> 01:18:21,000
"We just sell Tide."

735
01:18:22,708 --> 01:18:23,250
That's all we do.

736
01:18:23,708 --> 01:18:26,416
I don't have someone's heart in my hands.

737
01:18:26,416 --> 01:18:27,250
Their life is depending

738
01:18:27,250 --> 01:18:30,000
on me to keep them alive.

739
01:18:31,625 --> 01:18:32,041
Life's good.

740
01:18:32,291 --> 01:18:32,958
It'll be fine.

741
01:18:33,375 --> 01:18:34,208
We just sell Tide.

742
01:18:34,208 --> 01:18:35,583
It's going to be okay in the end.

743
01:18:35,666 --> 01:18:35,791
Yeah.

744
01:18:35,791 --> 01:18:36,000
Yeah.

745
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:36,541
And that was similar.

746
01:18:36,875 --> 01:18:38,833
That's how all jobs, but everybody gets

747
01:18:38,833 --> 01:18:39,666
very serious when it

748
01:18:39,666 --> 01:18:40,500
comes to their job because

749
01:18:40,500 --> 01:18:42,125
people find value in that, and that's

750
01:18:42,125 --> 01:18:43,125
part of the career thing, right?

751
01:18:43,625 --> 01:18:45,250
You want to economically, you want to

752
01:18:45,250 --> 01:18:46,083
provide for your family.

753
01:18:46,500 --> 01:18:46,583
Yes.

754
01:18:47,666 --> 01:18:49,166
And you feel that you're adding a value

755
01:18:49,166 --> 01:18:50,833
that you can be proud of.

756
01:18:51,208 --> 01:18:51,416
Right.

757
01:18:51,791 --> 01:18:52,000
Right.

758
01:18:52,500 --> 01:18:53,708
Those are huge things.

759
01:18:53,708 --> 01:18:55,375
A lot of people don't ... We've been

760
01:18:55,375 --> 01:18:56,250
lucky enough to kind of

761
01:18:56,250 --> 01:18:57,708
hit those, check those boxes

762
01:18:58,250 --> 01:19:01,875
in our careers and have an economic

763
01:19:01,875 --> 01:19:03,916
incentive that's been nice.

764
01:19:04,833 --> 01:19:07,791
But that aside, or along with that, like

765
01:19:07,791 --> 01:19:08,708
everybody else is doing,

766
01:19:09,041 --> 01:19:11,208
we're at those ages too where

767
01:19:11,208 --> 01:19:12,291
we have to plan for retirement.

768
01:19:12,875 --> 01:19:13,083
Yeah.

769
01:19:13,458 --> 01:19:13,666
Right?

770
01:19:14,583 --> 01:19:16,666
And I remember, I touched on this just

771
01:19:16,666 --> 01:19:18,291
barely before, but I

772
01:19:18,291 --> 01:19:20,083
remember being in 30s.

773
01:19:21,250 --> 01:19:24,125
And I was in my young 30s, I think, when

774
01:19:24,125 --> 01:19:25,083
I started one of my first

775
01:19:25,083 --> 01:19:26,958
companies and we liquidated

776
01:19:26,958 --> 01:19:28,791
some of our savings, our 401ks and

777
01:19:28,791 --> 01:19:29,875
everything to start that,

778
01:19:30,458 --> 01:19:32,250
to fund that business, which

779
01:19:32,250 --> 01:19:32,625
was great.

780
01:19:33,166 --> 01:19:37,583
It was a good business, but it drained

781
01:19:37,583 --> 01:19:39,000
our coffers a little bit, right?

782
01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:40,750
And so then we got back to the corporate

783
01:19:40,750 --> 01:19:41,833
world after selling that

784
01:19:41,833 --> 01:19:42,916
company and it was like,

785
01:19:43,083 --> 01:19:45,333
"I really need to think

786
01:19:45,333 --> 01:19:46,250
about how we're saving."

787
01:19:46,625 --> 01:19:47,666
And then at that point in time, I was

788
01:19:47,666 --> 01:19:49,375
doing all these numbers and crunching.

789
01:19:49,375 --> 01:19:49,583
Yeah.

790
01:19:49,833 --> 01:19:50,458
And I remember saying,

791
01:19:50,458 --> 01:19:51,500
"I think we're behind."

792
01:19:51,875 --> 01:19:52,166
Yeah.

793
01:19:52,833 --> 01:19:54,791
And we make too much money to be behind.

794
01:19:54,791 --> 01:19:58,458
And this was 15, 20 years ago almost now.

795
01:19:58,458 --> 01:19:59,000
Oh, at least.

796
01:19:59,458 --> 01:19:59,666
Yeah.

797
01:19:59,916 --> 01:20:00,833
At least, yeah.

798
01:20:00,833 --> 01:20:01,083
Yeah.

799
01:20:01,708 --> 01:20:02,708
Sometimes I lose track of time.

800
01:20:03,500 --> 01:20:04,708
I'm only 27, I think.

801
01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:09,500
But at this point in time, this is when

802
01:20:09,500 --> 01:20:10,250
you're crunching those

803
01:20:10,250 --> 01:20:12,458
numbers constantly of trying

804
01:20:12,458 --> 01:20:14,416
to figure out, "Okay, I

805
01:20:14,416 --> 01:20:15,250
got to save enough money.

806
01:20:15,250 --> 01:20:16,375
How long do I want to work for?

807
01:20:17,166 --> 01:20:18,000
What kind of lipo I

808
01:20:18,000 --> 01:20:19,333
want to have when I retire?

809
01:20:19,625 --> 01:20:20,416
Can I retire?

810
01:20:20,625 --> 01:20:20,833
Yeah.

811
01:20:21,500 --> 01:20:22,833
How much can I pay for my children?

812
01:20:23,083 --> 01:20:23,791
Can I pay for my

813
01:20:23,791 --> 01:20:24,625
children and go to college?

814
01:20:25,083 --> 01:20:26,583
I got to save for a wedding."

815
01:20:28,291 --> 01:20:30,958
Again, I don't know how everybody does it

816
01:20:30,958 --> 01:20:32,750
because we live

817
01:20:32,750 --> 01:20:36,291
modestly to some degree for

818
01:20:36,291 --> 01:20:37,250
what we make.

819
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:40,375
And maybe it's because we

820
01:20:40,375 --> 01:20:42,000
didn't grow up with money.

821
01:20:42,708 --> 01:20:43,625
I think it's because of money.

822
01:20:43,750 --> 01:20:46,500
Again, we're not Bill Gates here.

823
01:20:47,666 --> 01:20:48,125
You know what I mean?

824
01:20:48,208 --> 01:20:49,000
We're very average Joe.

825
01:20:49,250 --> 01:20:50,083
We're very average Joe.

826
01:20:50,375 --> 01:20:52,791
But you have to weigh those things with,

827
01:20:53,041 --> 01:20:54,833
"Okay, what are the next steps though?"

828
01:20:55,250 --> 01:20:58,333
And at some point, you got to really

829
01:20:58,333 --> 01:21:01,291
weigh that out of, "Okay, I need to save.

830
01:21:01,291 --> 01:21:02,291
I need to put this behind.

831
01:21:02,291 --> 01:21:03,166
I need to put one case.

832
01:21:03,166 --> 01:21:04,125
Oh, I need other assets.

833
01:21:04,500 --> 01:21:05,041
Oh, equities."

834
01:21:05,458 --> 01:21:05,625
Yeah.

835
01:21:06,375 --> 01:21:07,125
And you're like, "All

836
01:21:07,125 --> 01:21:08,041
these different things."

837
01:21:08,708 --> 01:21:10,791
So these are all these things now.

838
01:21:10,791 --> 01:21:11,750
Now you've got a portfolio.

839
01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:14,875
And when you're 33, you always hear about

840
01:21:14,875 --> 01:21:16,083
people that are in

841
01:21:16,083 --> 01:21:16,833
their 50s and are like,

842
01:21:16,833 --> 01:21:17,750
"Oh, I've got a portfolio."

843
01:21:18,125 --> 01:21:19,166
"Oh, I'm so cool.

844
01:21:19,166 --> 01:21:19,791
I have a portfolio."

845
01:21:20,500 --> 01:21:21,583
But you do.

846
01:21:21,958 --> 01:21:23,416
And you also, now we have a

847
01:21:23,416 --> 01:21:24,708
will and we have a living test.

848
01:21:24,916 --> 01:21:25,333
You know what I mean?

849
01:21:25,333 --> 01:21:25,791
All these things.

850
01:21:26,083 --> 01:21:27,083
So these are the things

851
01:21:27,083 --> 01:21:28,291
that we're layering in.

852
01:21:28,916 --> 01:21:30,666
I want to pause just to

853
01:21:30,666 --> 01:21:31,958
see what am I missing.

854
01:21:31,958 --> 01:21:33,791
Obviously, the

855
01:21:33,791 --> 01:21:34,875
children's a whole other thing.

856
01:21:34,916 --> 01:21:36,375
The family one, which is the second most

857
01:21:36,375 --> 01:21:37,833
important that we were talking about.

858
01:21:38,791 --> 01:21:40,458
I mean, think about all the

859
01:21:40,458 --> 01:21:41,375
things that we do with that.

860
01:21:41,375 --> 01:21:42,625
Just constantly learning.

861
01:21:43,916 --> 01:21:44,708
That's real time.

862
01:21:45,458 --> 01:21:47,208
Oh, that is real time

863
01:21:47,208 --> 01:21:49,000
on the job training.

864
01:21:49,250 --> 01:21:49,875
Training all the time.

865
01:21:49,875 --> 01:21:50,291
All the time.

866
01:21:50,666 --> 01:21:50,875
Yeah.

867
01:21:51,083 --> 01:21:52,916
Like, I realize there's a lot of

868
01:21:52,916 --> 01:21:55,083
parenting books, but

869
01:21:55,083 --> 01:21:56,250
you're like, "Gosh, how would I

870
01:21:56,250 --> 01:21:59,625
have known that I needed to read that my

871
01:21:59,625 --> 01:22:01,916
eighth grader was going to

872
01:22:01,916 --> 01:22:04,083
lose a teammate suddenly?"

873
01:22:04,791 --> 01:22:06,791
How do I help him through that loss?

874
01:22:07,500 --> 01:22:08,250
Like a passing.

875
01:22:08,833 --> 01:22:09,041
Right.

876
01:22:09,666 --> 01:22:09,875
Yeah.

877
01:22:10,416 --> 01:22:10,708
Death.

878
01:22:11,458 --> 01:22:11,625
Yeah.

879
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:12,166
Exactly.

880
01:22:12,458 --> 01:22:14,375
If they don't tell you then, sure,

881
01:22:14,375 --> 01:22:15,041
there's a book out there.

882
01:22:15,958 --> 01:22:16,708
You just didn't know you

883
01:22:16,708 --> 01:22:17,666
needed to read that book.

884
01:22:18,250 --> 01:22:18,833
And it's hard to find

885
01:22:18,833 --> 01:22:19,750
time to read those books.

886
01:22:19,750 --> 01:22:20,500
I actually have bought a

887
01:22:20,500 --> 01:22:22,291
couple books to be a better dad.

888
01:22:22,791 --> 01:22:23,208
You have a couple

889
01:22:23,208 --> 01:22:24,750
sitting on your nightstand.

890
01:22:24,750 --> 01:22:26,000
Yeah, just right on the nightstand.

891
01:22:26,375 --> 01:22:29,041
And I've made it through half of some and

892
01:22:29,041 --> 01:22:30,416
I've read other ones and whatnot.

893
01:22:30,833 --> 01:22:31,875
But yeah, but it's hard

894
01:22:31,875 --> 01:22:32,791
to find time to do that.

895
01:22:32,791 --> 01:22:33,750
We all want to be better.

896
01:22:33,791 --> 01:22:34,083
Yeah.

897
01:22:34,541 --> 01:22:36,208
But it's really, really hard.

898
01:22:36,500 --> 01:22:37,333
And that's part of that,

899
01:22:37,750 --> 01:22:38,375
everything you're juggling.

900
01:22:38,791 --> 01:22:39,125
Exactly.

901
01:22:39,833 --> 01:22:40,041
Exactly.

902
01:22:40,333 --> 01:22:41,125
Because it's like you don't want to lose

903
01:22:41,125 --> 01:22:42,166
touch of who you

904
01:22:42,166 --> 01:22:43,458
thought Megan was going to be.

905
01:22:43,458 --> 01:22:44,500
Who did 25-year-old Megan

906
01:22:44,500 --> 01:22:45,166
think she was going to be?

907
01:22:45,166 --> 01:22:46,166
Who did 35-year-old Megan

908
01:22:46,166 --> 01:22:47,000
think she's going to be?

909
01:22:47,500 --> 01:22:48,291
And are you on that path?

910
01:22:49,041 --> 01:22:51,625
If I am completely honest with you, yes.

911
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:52,708
I bet you are.

912
01:22:52,958 --> 01:22:55,708
You're like, "I don't doubt that at all."

913
01:22:55,958 --> 01:22:57,083
I have everything I

914
01:22:57,083 --> 01:22:58,416
could have ever wanted.

915
01:22:58,416 --> 01:22:58,625
Yeah.

916
01:22:59,666 --> 01:23:01,583
And you're the person you wanted to be.

917
01:23:01,583 --> 01:23:02,750
I'm not talking about material things.

918
01:23:02,791 --> 01:23:04,000
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

919
01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:05,833
I'm actually talking about all the

920
01:23:05,833 --> 01:23:07,166
immaterial things, right?

921
01:23:07,166 --> 01:23:07,416
Yeah, right.

922
01:23:07,916 --> 01:23:10,791
I'm not saying that I don't have stress

923
01:23:10,791 --> 01:23:12,583
and things that I'm

924
01:23:12,583 --> 01:23:14,416
like, "Well, that sucks."

925
01:23:14,875 --> 01:23:16,333
You know, like in my life.

926
01:23:17,166 --> 01:23:18,166
That's not the case.

927
01:23:18,958 --> 01:23:21,541
But on the whole, am I happy?

928
01:23:21,541 --> 01:23:22,583
Am I satisfied?

929
01:23:22,583 --> 01:23:24,666
Am I who I thought I would be?

930
01:23:25,750 --> 01:23:27,250
Yeah, I am.

931
01:23:27,791 --> 01:23:31,250
Like if I really dig down, I'm honest.

932
01:23:31,250 --> 01:23:31,916
I'm like, "Yeah, I am."

933
01:23:32,250 --> 01:23:33,541
And that's kind of cool.

934
01:23:33,750 --> 01:23:34,083
Are you?

935
01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:36,500
I'll come back to that.

936
01:23:36,833 --> 01:23:37,791
I'll answer that for you.

937
01:23:37,791 --> 01:23:39,458
But I mean, when you're like 25 and

938
01:23:39,458 --> 01:23:39,958
you're going through these

939
01:23:39,958 --> 01:23:41,416
corporate training sessions

940
01:23:41,791 --> 01:23:45,583
or at school or 35, they always give you,

941
01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:46,708
"What's your two-year plan?

942
01:23:46,708 --> 01:23:47,500
What's your five-year plan?

943
01:23:47,500 --> 01:23:48,375
What's your 10-year plan?"

944
01:23:48,708 --> 01:23:49,083
You know what I mean?

945
01:23:49,791 --> 01:23:51,416
So clearly, you're kind of checking the

946
01:23:51,416 --> 01:23:52,500
boxes on some of those plans.

947
01:23:52,708 --> 01:23:55,041
But today, you should

948
01:23:55,041 --> 01:23:55,791
have a three-year plan.

949
01:23:55,791 --> 01:23:56,125
You should have a

950
01:23:56,125 --> 01:23:56,750
five-year plan, a 10-year plan.

951
01:23:56,791 --> 01:23:59,291
You're kind of just...

952
01:24:00,375 --> 01:24:01,375
Do you have that still?

953
01:24:01,625 --> 01:24:04,000
Or is life moving so fast that you're

954
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:05,625
just trying to keep up with it?

955
01:24:05,625 --> 01:24:06,208
You do have it.

956
01:24:06,333 --> 01:24:06,708
I do.

957
01:24:07,083 --> 01:24:07,416
I do.

958
01:24:08,041 --> 01:24:08,708
And I think...

959
01:24:09,041 --> 01:24:11,500
I tell people this at work.

960
01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:14,500
I'm like, "I have taken

961
01:24:14,500 --> 01:24:17,166
intentional steps aside.

962
01:24:17,750 --> 01:24:20,125
I've taken steps back in my career to...

963
01:24:20,666 --> 01:24:22,250
I mean, when I started with my current

964
01:24:22,250 --> 01:24:24,750
company 15 years ago,

965
01:24:24,791 --> 01:24:26,833
we had just had a baby.

966
01:24:26,833 --> 01:24:28,000
I was on maternity leave."

967
01:24:29,208 --> 01:24:31,000
I'm like, "I can't be in management."

968
01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:31,500
I had been.

969
01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:33,083
I was like, "I don't have time.

970
01:24:33,083 --> 01:24:34,375
I want to raise my family."

971
01:24:34,750 --> 01:24:35,958
You were traveling all

972
01:24:35,958 --> 01:24:37,375
the time, worked downtown.

973
01:24:37,583 --> 01:24:39,083
I was like, "I need to be closer to home,

974
01:24:39,083 --> 01:24:39,791
closer to the baby."

975
01:24:40,541 --> 01:24:41,875
I took a step back.

976
01:24:42,791 --> 01:24:45,125
I'm like, because it

977
01:24:45,125 --> 01:24:46,708
didn't matter at that point.

978
01:24:46,708 --> 01:24:47,375
That was the right

979
01:24:47,375 --> 01:24:49,166
step to make at that time.

980
01:24:50,041 --> 01:24:51,333
And I think there's

981
01:24:51,333 --> 01:24:53,791
going to still be pauses

982
01:24:53,791 --> 01:24:56,041
and step on the gas

983
01:24:56,041 --> 01:24:57,458
pieces of my career left

984
01:24:57,458 --> 01:24:59,291
for whatever time I have left to work.

985
01:25:00,750 --> 01:25:03,083
Now, do I have the exact timing?

986
01:25:03,958 --> 01:25:05,000
I actually joked the

987
01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:05,666
other day with someone.

988
01:25:05,666 --> 01:25:07,500
I was like, "I cannot take a promotion

989
01:25:07,500 --> 01:25:09,083
until I have a driver in the house."

990
01:25:09,458 --> 01:25:11,875
Until we are no longer outnumbered.

991
01:25:12,458 --> 01:25:13,416
A third driver, yeah.

992
01:25:13,625 --> 01:25:15,208
Yeah, a third driver in the house.

993
01:25:17,875 --> 01:25:18,750
Because it is what it is.

994
01:25:18,791 --> 01:25:21,625
I'm like, "We have to step aside.

995
01:25:21,875 --> 01:25:22,833
We have to step out of

996
01:25:22,833 --> 01:25:24,208
our jobs to go pick up kids

997
01:25:24,208 --> 01:25:25,583
and get them to practice."

998
01:25:25,833 --> 01:25:26,041
I mean...

999
01:25:26,500 --> 01:25:26,666
Yeah.

1000
01:25:27,791 --> 01:25:29,833
I don't know how people do that.

1001
01:25:30,083 --> 01:25:30,916
I mean, we talk about this

1002
01:25:30,916 --> 01:25:31,791
kind of stuff all the time,

1003
01:25:31,791 --> 01:25:37,541
but it's astonishing to me the way that

1004
01:25:37,541 --> 01:25:39,875
school is set up here in Texas at least.

1005
01:25:40,625 --> 01:25:43,708
I mean, they clearly plan on at least one

1006
01:25:43,708 --> 01:25:45,000
parent not having a job.

1007
01:25:45,750 --> 01:25:46,125
Definitely.

1008
01:25:46,125 --> 01:25:47,375
With everything that they schedule.

1009
01:25:47,791 --> 01:25:49,583
And the times that they schedule?

1010
01:25:50,333 --> 01:25:50,875
It's incredible.

1011
01:25:51,125 --> 01:25:52,875
Even sports are early.

1012
01:25:53,666 --> 01:25:57,416
In practice, it's after school, but 6

1013
01:25:57,416 --> 01:26:00,416
o'clock or 6.15 an hour away.

1014
01:26:01,541 --> 01:26:04,500
And again, if I left the office at 5 and

1015
01:26:04,500 --> 01:26:07,208
I got home at 5.45, best case,

1016
01:26:08,083 --> 01:26:10,125
pick up the kid, leave, best case

1017
01:26:10,125 --> 01:26:12,833
scenario over there at 6.50 maybe,

1018
01:26:13,500 --> 01:26:15,750
and practice started at 35 minutes ago.

1019
01:26:15,791 --> 01:26:16,791
Right.

1020
01:26:18,125 --> 01:26:20,125
I don't even know how that computes.

1021
01:26:20,125 --> 01:26:24,166
There was a time when all

1022
01:26:24,166 --> 01:26:26,666
jobs like that as you get older,

1023
01:26:26,875 --> 01:26:28,000
you just had that more flexibility,

1024
01:26:28,833 --> 01:26:32,791
I would struggle to believe that your dad

1025
01:26:32,791 --> 01:26:35,250
or mine had flexibility

1026
01:26:35,250 --> 01:26:36,500
like that at their job.

1027
01:26:37,166 --> 01:26:38,875
Guys, I'm going to be taking off at 3.15

1028
01:26:38,875 --> 01:26:41,208
every Tuesday, Wednesday, and Friday

1029
01:26:41,208 --> 01:26:42,916
because it's my time to pick up the kids.

1030
01:26:43,750 --> 01:26:44,125
You know what I mean?

1031
01:26:44,791 --> 01:26:45,083
No way.

1032
01:26:45,750 --> 01:26:46,458
No way.

1033
01:26:46,708 --> 01:26:46,916
Right.

1034
01:26:47,458 --> 01:26:50,083
And I mean, even when I was early in the

1035
01:26:50,083 --> 01:26:51,791
corporate world, that wasn't a thing.

1036
01:26:52,166 --> 01:26:52,375
Yeah.

1037
01:26:53,041 --> 01:26:54,916
I don't know of my colleagues.

1038
01:26:55,375 --> 01:26:56,833
Again, I was younger, so I probably had a

1039
01:26:56,833 --> 01:26:57,958
younger group around me.

1040
01:26:58,208 --> 01:26:59,875
But I did know some parents, it's not

1041
01:26:59,875 --> 01:27:01,500
like they were headed out at, you know,

1042
01:27:02,250 --> 01:27:04,541
3.45 or 4 o'clock in the afternoon to go

1043
01:27:04,541 --> 01:27:05,541
do things with their kids.

1044
01:27:05,833 --> 01:27:08,541
That's only been in the last five to

1045
01:27:08,541 --> 01:27:09,750
seven years, I feel like.

1046
01:27:09,750 --> 01:27:11,750
I don't know if it's COVID, but COVID I

1047
01:27:11,750 --> 01:27:13,041
think exaggerated it.

1048
01:27:13,041 --> 01:27:13,250
It did.

1049
01:27:13,791 --> 01:27:14,166
Right.

1050
01:27:14,166 --> 01:27:15,458
For everybody now, we'll do those lines.

1051
01:27:15,791 --> 01:27:16,791
We'll do those lines a little bit more.

1052
01:27:17,125 --> 01:27:18,333
But I mean, that was especially in

1053
01:27:18,333 --> 01:27:19,375
banking and finance.

1054
01:27:19,375 --> 01:27:22,083
I was never, I mean, like, you know, it

1055
01:27:22,083 --> 01:27:22,666
was always the last

1056
01:27:22,666 --> 01:27:23,958
man standing was the best

1057
01:27:23,958 --> 01:27:24,833
guy, you know?

1058
01:27:25,291 --> 01:27:25,500
I know.

1059
01:27:25,791 --> 01:27:26,000
Yeah.

1060
01:27:26,625 --> 01:27:30,500
And now I think, I don't know, I think

1061
01:27:30,500 --> 01:27:31,916
the balance, the

1062
01:27:31,916 --> 01:27:34,916
differences now, like, we talk

1063
01:27:34,916 --> 01:27:36,291
about how much time we spend working.

1064
01:27:37,250 --> 01:27:39,208
We could also probably spend a little bit

1065
01:27:39,208 --> 01:27:40,750
of time and double-click into like,

1066
01:27:40,791 --> 01:27:43,125
how much time did I spend in my workday

1067
01:27:43,125 --> 01:27:46,375
texting about carpooling,

1068
01:27:46,583 --> 01:27:47,750
scheduling appointments,

1069
01:27:48,125 --> 01:27:50,375
adjusting our calendar, responding to

1070
01:27:50,375 --> 01:27:52,291
parent or teacher emails,

1071
01:27:52,708 --> 01:27:54,416
like, looking at the kids'

1072
01:27:54,625 --> 01:27:55,833
grades, making sure, you know, putting

1073
01:27:55,833 --> 01:27:57,416
money to their lunch account.

1074
01:27:58,000 --> 01:27:59,750
I mean, I do that during the

1075
01:27:59,750 --> 01:28:02,250
day, that during my workday.

1076
01:28:02,791 --> 01:28:03,000
Yeah.

1077
01:28:03,583 --> 01:28:07,416
So do I feel then like I'm being cheated

1078
01:28:07,416 --> 01:28:08,250
if I have to spend an

1079
01:28:08,250 --> 01:28:09,500
extra hour at night working

1080
01:28:09,791 --> 01:28:12,125
to make up that time that I wasn't, you

1081
01:28:12,125 --> 01:28:13,416
know, like, no, not at

1082
01:28:13,416 --> 01:28:14,875
all, because I was like,

1083
01:28:14,875 --> 01:28:16,583
I really was probably doing all of those

1084
01:28:16,583 --> 01:28:17,583
things for an hour today.

1085
01:28:17,583 --> 01:28:19,166
And that's what's blurred big time too.

1086
01:28:19,166 --> 01:28:20,250
And I don't know if other people are like

1087
01:28:20,250 --> 01:28:20,916
this, I'm guessing

1088
01:28:20,916 --> 01:28:22,625
quite a few probably are,

1089
01:28:24,416 --> 01:28:25,583
especially on our soccer teams, because I

1090
01:28:25,583 --> 01:28:26,208
mean, it is like,

1091
01:28:26,208 --> 01:28:27,208
those lines are so blurred,

1092
01:28:27,458 --> 01:28:30,333
but it just has become natural for us and

1093
01:28:30,333 --> 01:28:33,625
our household at least, that we basically

1094
01:28:33,791 --> 01:28:36,083
work anytime we are not at soccer.

1095
01:28:37,000 --> 01:28:37,750
Or track.

1096
01:28:37,791 --> 01:28:38,166
Or track.

1097
01:28:38,625 --> 01:28:39,083
Or track.

1098
01:28:39,750 --> 01:28:40,625
Or basketball now.

1099
01:28:40,958 --> 01:28:42,291
And basketball now, yeah.

1100
01:28:42,708 --> 01:28:43,916
Our daughter made the basketball team.

1101
01:28:44,166 --> 01:28:44,958
Yay, way to go.

1102
01:28:45,125 --> 01:28:45,958
Yeah, it was awesome.

1103
01:28:46,166 --> 01:28:46,500
It was.

1104
01:28:46,500 --> 01:28:47,041
First kid playing

1105
01:28:47,041 --> 01:28:47,958
basketball, which is awesome.

1106
01:28:47,958 --> 01:28:49,708
I couldn't care less if they played or

1107
01:28:49,708 --> 01:28:50,833
not, but it was kind of cool.

1108
01:28:50,833 --> 01:28:51,875
She wanted to do it all on her own.

1109
01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:52,208
She did.

1110
01:28:52,791 --> 01:28:55,333
I had never played before either, and I

1111
01:28:55,333 --> 01:28:56,250
thought she killed it.

1112
01:28:56,250 --> 01:28:56,875
She crushed it.

1113
01:28:57,291 --> 01:28:57,500
Yeah.

1114
01:28:57,666 --> 01:28:58,208
She crushed it.

1115
01:28:58,208 --> 01:28:58,500
It was awesome.

1116
01:28:58,916 --> 01:28:59,750
Defensive juggernaut has been

1117
01:28:59,750 --> 01:29:00,750
the term I've been throwing.

1118
01:29:02,166 --> 01:29:03,041
And she came off

1119
01:29:03,041 --> 01:29:04,000
feeling good about herself.

1120
01:29:04,541 --> 01:29:04,750
And basketball is not easy.

1121
01:29:04,791 --> 01:29:06,625
There's a lot to still learn.

1122
01:29:07,083 --> 01:29:08,291
But to come off feeling good about your

1123
01:29:08,291 --> 01:29:09,083
first time out, I

1124
01:29:09,083 --> 01:29:10,083
mean, I can't ask for more.

1125
01:29:10,291 --> 01:29:11,041
She's enjoying it.

1126
01:29:11,291 --> 01:29:12,541
She's proud of what she's

1127
01:29:12,541 --> 01:29:13,500
been able to accomplish.

1128
01:29:13,500 --> 01:29:14,000
I love it.

1129
01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:15,041
Can't wait to see what the season brings.

1130
01:29:15,833 --> 01:29:15,958
Yeah.

1131
01:29:15,958 --> 01:29:16,458
For sure.

1132
01:29:16,958 --> 01:29:17,041
Right.

1133
01:29:17,041 --> 01:29:17,250
Right.

1134
01:29:18,791 --> 01:29:19,500
But what was I saying?

1135
01:29:19,791 --> 01:29:21,166
Again, I threw a tantrum.

1136
01:29:21,500 --> 01:29:23,125
Oh, how we're working if we aren't doing

1137
01:29:23,125 --> 01:29:23,916
one of those things.

1138
01:29:24,250 --> 01:29:25,916
If we're not doing one of those things,

1139
01:29:27,208 --> 01:29:29,291
then we're probably working.

1140
01:29:29,291 --> 01:29:30,041
I mean, then we're probably working.

1141
01:29:30,458 --> 01:29:32,375
We're sitting on the couch watching, you

1142
01:29:32,375 --> 01:29:33,375
know, NFL football with

1143
01:29:33,375 --> 01:29:33,750
our laptops on our thing.

1144
01:29:33,791 --> 01:29:36,791
I mean, there is no division.

1145
01:29:36,791 --> 01:29:39,958
Whereas at 25, 35, maybe even 40 years

1146
01:29:39,958 --> 01:29:40,791
old, I mean, it was

1147
01:29:40,791 --> 01:29:42,375
like, you know, at five, six

1148
01:29:42,375 --> 01:29:44,125
o'clock rolls around, pop

1149
01:29:44,125 --> 01:29:46,041
that thing down and I'm off.

1150
01:29:46,041 --> 01:29:47,291
I'm not even thinking about it.

1151
01:29:47,291 --> 01:29:47,500
Yeah.

1152
01:29:47,833 --> 01:29:48,041
Yeah.

1153
01:29:48,791 --> 01:29:49,708
It's right.

1154
01:29:50,125 --> 01:29:52,500
Like, I think part of that

1155
01:29:52,500 --> 01:29:53,750
is that work from home thing.

1156
01:29:54,041 --> 01:29:55,541
You know, if you are working from home,

1157
01:29:55,541 --> 01:29:57,416
it's like, what did that even?

1158
01:29:57,416 --> 01:29:58,625
I just saw an email come through.

1159
01:29:58,625 --> 01:29:59,750
I should probably check it.

1160
01:30:01,791 --> 01:30:03,708
And but it is so then

1161
01:30:03,708 --> 01:30:08,000
hard to protect couples time.

1162
01:30:08,791 --> 01:30:11,083
It's hard to protect your own time.

1163
01:30:11,291 --> 01:30:11,791
Family time.

1164
01:30:12,291 --> 01:30:13,125
Family time.

1165
01:30:13,583 --> 01:30:14,541
I mean, all of it.

1166
01:30:14,541 --> 01:30:16,500
It's just like I was telling someone the

1167
01:30:16,500 --> 01:30:17,041
other day, I was like,

1168
01:30:17,041 --> 01:30:19,833
there is not one minute in

1169
01:30:19,833 --> 01:30:21,208
my day that's unaccounted for where I'm

1170
01:30:21,208 --> 01:30:22,708
like, what should I do?

1171
01:30:23,708 --> 01:30:26,041
I might just sit here, you know, like not

1172
01:30:26,041 --> 01:30:27,166
even one minute

1173
01:30:27,166 --> 01:30:29,291
between five, 45 and 11, 15.

1174
01:30:29,791 --> 01:30:30,041
That's right.

1175
01:30:30,291 --> 01:30:31,791
The best day for you this whole year.

1176
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:33,250
I want one of the best

1177
01:30:33,250 --> 01:30:34,250
days for you the whole year.

1178
01:30:34,250 --> 01:30:34,458
Right.

1179
01:30:34,666 --> 01:30:35,041
Oh my God.

1180
01:30:35,041 --> 01:30:35,916
It was two weeks ago.

1181
01:30:36,333 --> 01:30:36,583
It was.

1182
01:30:36,958 --> 01:30:38,916
So my company gives a wellness day.

1183
01:30:38,916 --> 01:30:40,208
I think we may have talked about this.

1184
01:30:40,458 --> 01:30:40,916
Oh, did we?

1185
01:30:41,125 --> 01:30:41,583
I don't remember.

1186
01:30:41,583 --> 01:30:42,166
I don't know.

1187
01:30:42,166 --> 01:30:45,291
But it is a day that the company gives

1188
01:30:45,291 --> 01:30:48,750
everybody and it's picked on me.

1189
01:30:48,750 --> 01:30:50,208
I usually last Friday of the month or

1190
01:30:50,208 --> 01:30:51,833
last Friday of October.

1191
01:30:52,583 --> 01:30:54,333
So it's a day when people who have

1192
01:30:54,333 --> 01:30:55,125
children, their kids are

1193
01:30:55,125 --> 01:30:57,375
in school so they don't have

1194
01:30:57,791 --> 01:30:59,708
to take care of their kids.

1195
01:31:00,041 --> 01:31:02,541
I mean, or less they want to.

1196
01:31:02,875 --> 01:31:03,041
Right.

1197
01:31:03,500 --> 01:31:05,666
It is truly a wellness day for you to do

1198
01:31:05,666 --> 01:31:07,916
however you want to do it.

1199
01:31:09,708 --> 01:31:10,416
Go for a walk.

1200
01:31:10,416 --> 01:31:12,125
I mean, they give suggestions.

1201
01:31:12,375 --> 01:31:13,250
Go for a walk.

1202
01:31:13,500 --> 01:31:16,916
Like whatever makes you feel good.

1203
01:31:17,875 --> 01:31:19,708
And because everybody in the company does

1204
01:31:19,708 --> 01:31:20,875
it, you don't get emails.

1205
01:31:21,125 --> 01:31:22,375
I mean, it's like, it's like

1206
01:31:22,375 --> 01:31:23,291
Thanksgiving, right?

1207
01:31:23,291 --> 01:31:24,750
Like everybody gets Thanksgiving off.

1208
01:31:25,833 --> 01:31:27,583
And so you're not because if you take a

1209
01:31:27,583 --> 01:31:29,208
day off, you still get emails all day.

1210
01:31:29,208 --> 01:31:29,958
That was the key.

1211
01:31:30,208 --> 01:31:32,541
If you work piling up, you don't have

1212
01:31:32,541 --> 01:31:34,375
work piling up because everybody's off.

1213
01:31:34,833 --> 01:31:35,041
Yeah.

1214
01:31:35,208 --> 01:31:36,875
And I didn't understand that until I was

1215
01:31:36,875 --> 01:31:37,500
like, why don't you just

1216
01:31:37,500 --> 01:31:38,333
take every other, why don't

1217
01:31:38,333 --> 01:31:39,000
you take more Fridays

1218
01:31:39,000 --> 01:31:39,833
off so you get this?

1219
01:31:40,541 --> 01:31:41,916
Because everybody else is working and

1220
01:31:41,916 --> 01:31:42,666
your phone was just

1221
01:31:42,666 --> 01:31:43,541
ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.

1222
01:31:43,666 --> 01:31:43,875
Yeah.

1223
01:31:44,250 --> 01:31:44,666
So that's fantastic.

1224
01:31:45,041 --> 01:31:45,583
They give you those.

1225
01:31:45,583 --> 01:31:46,166
So it is like another

1226
01:31:46,166 --> 01:31:47,041
Thanksgiving or Christmas.

1227
01:31:47,416 --> 01:31:47,625
Yeah.

1228
01:31:47,666 --> 01:31:50,500
Those few holidays where only that one

1229
01:31:50,500 --> 01:31:52,333
person showing off is sending an email.

1230
01:31:52,708 --> 01:31:52,916
Exactly.

1231
01:31:53,583 --> 01:31:53,791
Exactly.

1232
01:31:55,166 --> 01:31:56,208
We all have one of those.

1233
01:31:57,375 --> 01:31:58,125
I'm not that person.

1234
01:32:00,083 --> 01:32:02,375
But that to me, I look

1235
01:32:02,375 --> 01:32:05,541
forward to that day all year.

1236
01:32:06,375 --> 01:32:08,708
And I mean, sure, I get the chance to

1237
01:32:08,708 --> 01:32:09,666
actually take all the kids

1238
01:32:09,666 --> 01:32:10,625
to school in the morning.

1239
01:32:11,250 --> 01:32:11,750
Why not?

1240
01:32:12,083 --> 01:32:13,250
Like usually get a

1241
01:32:13,250 --> 01:32:15,875
Starbucks, put together a puzzle.

1242
01:32:16,333 --> 01:32:17,666
Like, what?

1243
01:32:20,416 --> 01:32:21,000
It's amazing.

1244
01:32:21,833 --> 01:32:21,958
Yeah.

1245
01:32:22,666 --> 01:32:25,083
So those are some of those things as

1246
01:32:25,083 --> 01:32:26,375
you're kind of just

1247
01:32:26,375 --> 01:32:29,750
peeling back that onion, just

1248
01:32:29,875 --> 01:32:32,166
all the things that you do at this age.

1249
01:32:32,166 --> 01:32:33,583
And it's just how you just

1250
01:32:33,583 --> 01:32:35,041
keep putting more and more on.

1251
01:32:35,416 --> 01:32:37,000
And now we're getting to that point where

1252
01:32:37,000 --> 01:32:37,958
we're putting even more on.

1253
01:32:38,416 --> 01:32:39,500
I think one of these next levels we're

1254
01:32:39,500 --> 01:32:41,333
doing is preparing the kids for college.

1255
01:32:41,333 --> 01:32:41,541
Yeah.

1256
01:32:42,375 --> 01:32:42,583
Right.

1257
01:32:42,833 --> 01:32:44,541
And there's just so much more to it.

1258
01:32:44,541 --> 01:32:45,333
Again, we're blessed to

1259
01:32:45,333 --> 01:32:46,500
have athletic children.

1260
01:32:47,250 --> 01:32:50,500
So searching for an athletic scholarship

1261
01:32:50,500 --> 01:32:51,791
and academic

1262
01:32:51,791 --> 01:32:52,666
scholarship is something that

1263
01:32:52,666 --> 01:32:53,291
we're going to be doing.

1264
01:32:53,625 --> 01:32:53,833
Yeah.

1265
01:32:54,250 --> 01:32:54,458
Yeah.

1266
01:32:54,750 --> 01:32:57,250
And all the, I mean, it's

1267
01:32:57,250 --> 01:32:59,125
nothing that we didn't know, right?

1268
01:32:59,125 --> 01:32:59,750
We have friends who

1269
01:32:59,750 --> 01:33:00,583
have gone through this.

1270
01:33:00,583 --> 01:33:03,166
I went to a college recruiting thing that

1271
01:33:03,166 --> 01:33:05,541
they were putting on to just help prepare

1272
01:33:05,541 --> 01:33:07,750
parents and students for kind of what to

1273
01:33:07,750 --> 01:33:08,791
expect, especially if

1274
01:33:08,791 --> 01:33:09,875
you are a student athlete.

1275
01:33:11,208 --> 01:33:15,000
And I mean, it is very involved of what

1276
01:33:15,000 --> 01:33:16,000
you have to do and when

1277
01:33:16,000 --> 01:33:16,791
you have to start doing

1278
01:33:16,916 --> 01:33:19,291
it and it's like, okay, well, we're

1279
01:33:19,291 --> 01:33:20,375
adding another full-time job.

1280
01:33:20,750 --> 01:33:22,166
Just don't put that on there.

1281
01:33:22,375 --> 01:33:24,541
And it's night and day from when we were

1282
01:33:24,541 --> 01:33:25,541
in college at least.

1283
01:33:25,625 --> 01:33:26,000
Oh, yeah.

1284
01:33:26,000 --> 01:33:26,583
Going to college.

1285
01:33:27,000 --> 01:33:27,166
Yeah.

1286
01:33:27,875 --> 01:33:29,958
So, it's just so much more to it.

1287
01:33:29,958 --> 01:33:31,875
And it's one of those things that I feel

1288
01:33:31,875 --> 01:33:33,500
a little bit like on the line.

1289
01:33:33,666 --> 01:33:34,000
Yeah.

1290
01:33:34,416 --> 01:33:34,625
Right?

1291
01:33:34,666 --> 01:33:36,250
Because it's, you have to have all this

1292
01:33:36,250 --> 01:33:37,583
stuff that you do this, and it reveals that, and

1293
01:33:37,583 --> 01:33:48,583
it videos this. And so a bit, unfortunately, and people with teenagers have to understand that or have teenagers, it's just so much more important. And I think that's what we're doing. And I think that's what we're doing. And I think that's what we're doing. And I think that's what we're doing. Yeah.

1294
01:33:48,875 --> 01:33:51,208
I can't do all that.

1295
01:33:51,208 --> 01:33:51,416
No.

1296
01:33:51,958 --> 01:33:53,875
You know what I mean?

1297
01:33:54,250 --> 01:33:57,541
And that, I mean, I heard the phrase long

1298
01:33:57,541 --> 01:33:59,083
ago, like, we're actually raising adults.

1299
01:33:59,750 --> 01:34:01,708
And here's where it's like, you hope that

1300
01:34:01,708 --> 01:34:02,666
some of those seeds

1301
01:34:02,666 --> 01:34:03,875
have landed because they

1302
01:34:03,875 --> 01:34:05,750
have to take control in

1303
01:34:05,750 --> 01:34:07,000
an active role in this.

1304
01:34:07,083 --> 01:34:09,166
This is no longer, mom,

1305
01:34:09,708 --> 01:34:10,541
hey, can you do this for me?

1306
01:34:10,541 --> 01:34:11,625
Dad, can you do that for me?

1307
01:34:12,333 --> 01:34:14,583
Which is one reason why it's like, I

1308
01:34:14,583 --> 01:34:15,750
mean, I don't ever talk

1309
01:34:15,750 --> 01:34:17,083
to my kids, teachers at

1310
01:34:17,083 --> 01:34:17,750
this point anymore.

1311
01:34:18,500 --> 01:34:19,916
Maybe the sixth grader.

1312
01:34:19,916 --> 01:34:21,250
But like, I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, I

1313
01:34:21,250 --> 01:34:22,125
shouldn't be doing that.

1314
01:34:22,750 --> 01:34:25,000
You should be doing that because you're

1315
01:34:25,000 --> 01:34:25,875
going to have to talk to a

1316
01:34:25,875 --> 01:34:26,916
college recruiter or your

1317
01:34:26,916 --> 01:34:28,166
professor or your boss.

1318
01:34:28,833 --> 01:34:29,625
I can't do it.

1319
01:34:29,625 --> 01:34:29,833
Yeah.

1320
01:34:30,250 --> 01:34:32,416
But now it's that point too where it's

1321
01:34:32,416 --> 01:34:32,708
just, it's scary because I've told you before you

1322
01:34:32,708 --> 01:34:36,375
say it to the kids. Like I've taught you

1323
01:34:36,375 --> 01:34:37,458
everything you need to know.

1324
01:34:37,458 --> 01:34:37,666
Yeah.

1325
01:34:37,916 --> 01:34:39,708
You know what's right and what's wrong.

1326
01:34:39,958 --> 01:34:42,125
You know the things that we want you to

1327
01:34:42,125 --> 01:34:43,500
be, you know, for the

1328
01:34:43,500 --> 01:34:44,541
spirit and kind hearted

1329
01:34:44,541 --> 01:34:45,541
and what we need to know.

1330
01:34:46,000 --> 01:34:46,750
You know it all.

1331
01:34:47,208 --> 01:34:47,708
It's just now up to you whether or not you're going to go out there and do that or not.

1332
01:34:47,708 --> 01:35:00,500
I know. And you don't have to be perfect. You're going to make mistakes. But I mean, it's just scary for someone who likes to have control over things. I can rarely admit that all the other people are free, but I do like to have control over things. I'm just going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to send our children out there without,

1333
01:35:02,041 --> 01:35:04,416
you know, I mean like,

1334
01:35:04,416 --> 01:35:05,958
please make good decisions.

1335
01:35:07,750 --> 01:35:08,541
and our children out

1336
01:35:08,541 --> 01:35:11,833
there without, you know,

1337
01:35:11,833 --> 01:35:14,166
I mean, like, please make good decisions.

1338
01:35:14,166 --> 01:35:14,625
And I know they're

1339
01:35:14,625 --> 01:35:15,416
not gonna make perfect,

1340
01:35:15,416 --> 01:35:16,000
they're not gonna be perfect.

1341
01:35:16,333 --> 01:35:18,333
Right, right, but--

1342
01:35:18,375 --> 01:35:20,416
But today, I just feel like it's just,

1343
01:35:20,625 --> 01:35:21,125
it's just so much

1344
01:35:21,125 --> 01:35:23,333
easier to screw up, you know,

1345
01:35:23,333 --> 01:35:26,000
and have something in a digital format

1346
01:35:26,125 --> 01:35:28,083
that'll haunt you for a long time.

1347
01:35:28,166 --> 01:35:30,666
Yeah, it's, yeah, the

1348
01:35:30,666 --> 01:35:32,375
repercussions, I feel like,

1349
01:35:32,375 --> 01:35:35,000
are just so paramount, and

1350
01:35:35,000 --> 01:35:37,041
that is yet another thing

1351
01:35:37,125 --> 01:35:39,791
that gets added onto the plate of,

1352
01:35:42,500 --> 01:35:43,125
you're parenting,

1353
01:35:43,333 --> 01:35:44,625
you're learning in real time,

1354
01:35:45,083 --> 01:35:46,791
but you're also trying to walk

1355
01:35:46,791 --> 01:35:49,125
that fine line of letting go,

1356
01:35:49,833 --> 01:35:51,458
but yet staying close

1357
01:35:51,458 --> 01:35:53,791
enough, like, and again, I,

1358
01:35:54,500 --> 01:35:57,000
I don't know, it's frightening,

1359
01:35:57,000 --> 01:35:57,916
because you don't know how you're doing.

1360
01:35:58,208 --> 01:35:59,125
Yeah, yeah. It's like--

1361
01:36:00,250 --> 01:36:01,041
Yeah, and that's like the

1362
01:36:01,041 --> 01:36:02,166
second most important thing.

1363
01:36:02,166 --> 01:36:03,041
I know we're bouncing

1364
01:36:03,041 --> 01:36:04,083
around here a little bit,

1365
01:36:04,083 --> 01:36:06,041
because career takes up the most time.

1366
01:36:06,625 --> 01:36:07,500
Family's the most

1367
01:36:07,500 --> 01:36:10,291
important thing, you know,

1368
01:36:10,500 --> 01:36:11,625
but then you find

1369
01:36:11,625 --> 01:36:12,791
yourself getting interested

1370
01:36:12,791 --> 01:36:14,333
in other things too, like, I know,

1371
01:36:15,333 --> 01:36:16,083
I would not have called

1372
01:36:16,083 --> 01:36:17,375
myself a political person,

1373
01:36:17,791 --> 01:36:19,625
you know, in my 20s, or

1374
01:36:19,625 --> 01:36:21,791
even my 30s really, that much,

1375
01:36:21,791 --> 01:36:23,166
you know what I mean? I know, yeah.

1376
01:36:23,250 --> 01:36:24,416
Into my 40s, I don't know

1377
01:36:24,416 --> 01:36:25,541
if this just comes with age

1378
01:36:25,541 --> 01:36:26,875
or what it is, you know,

1379
01:36:26,875 --> 01:36:28,416
but I know polysci interest

1380
01:36:28,500 --> 01:36:29,666
whatsoever, in college

1381
01:36:29,666 --> 01:36:30,583
or anything like that.

1382
01:36:31,083 --> 01:36:32,041
Some people do at

1383
01:36:32,041 --> 01:36:33,458
that age, which is great,

1384
01:36:34,166 --> 01:36:34,958
but, you know, I

1385
01:36:34,958 --> 01:36:36,208
don't know if it's because

1386
01:36:36,208 --> 01:36:37,333
you get to a certain age,

1387
01:36:38,333 --> 01:36:39,416
where I'm getting at here,

1388
01:36:39,416 --> 01:36:40,166
is starting to care

1389
01:36:40,166 --> 01:36:41,666
about politics, right?

1390
01:36:42,375 --> 01:36:43,041
And I don't know if

1391
01:36:43,041 --> 01:36:43,875
you get to a certain age,

1392
01:36:43,875 --> 01:36:44,333
and you're like, you know

1393
01:36:44,333 --> 01:36:45,791
what, I grew up in a certain world,

1394
01:36:46,666 --> 01:36:48,166
and I wanna make sure my kids can grow up

1395
01:36:48,166 --> 01:36:49,541
in the same kind of world that I did,

1396
01:36:49,541 --> 01:36:49,833
with the same

1397
01:36:49,833 --> 01:36:52,083
opportunities that I had, right?

1398
01:36:52,083 --> 01:36:52,541
So I don't know if

1399
01:36:52,541 --> 01:36:54,416
that's why parents, you know,

1400
01:36:54,416 --> 01:36:55,875
are adults at a certain age.

1401
01:36:56,416 --> 01:36:57,541
Sometimes I see people get

1402
01:36:57,541 --> 01:36:59,083
more political as they get older.

1403
01:36:59,083 --> 01:37:00,583
Yeah. Is that a natural--

1404
01:37:02,166 --> 01:37:04,416
I think so, I've noticed it too.

1405
01:37:05,666 --> 01:37:08,291
You know, in myself, I mean, I was never

1406
01:37:08,291 --> 01:37:10,125
a political person at all,

1407
01:37:10,375 --> 01:37:12,041
and I think part of it is,

1408
01:37:12,708 --> 01:37:15,958
as you grow in your career, it is, like,

1409
01:37:16,250 --> 01:37:18,083
not knowing the current environment that

1410
01:37:18,083 --> 01:37:19,125
you're operating in,

1411
01:37:19,125 --> 01:37:20,500
like, is not acceptable

1412
01:37:20,500 --> 01:37:21,708
anymore, you have to know that,

1413
01:37:22,083 --> 01:37:23,666
but I think part of it is the kids,

1414
01:37:24,000 --> 01:37:27,250
and like, how do I preserve and protect

1415
01:37:27,250 --> 01:37:30,416
a good life for them?

1416
01:37:31,625 --> 01:37:33,375
But I also think it

1417
01:37:33,375 --> 01:37:34,291
just comes with wisdom,

1418
01:37:35,000 --> 01:37:36,416
and it's less about, I

1419
01:37:36,416 --> 01:37:38,666
mean, think about the 20,

1420
01:37:39,666 --> 01:37:41,458
in your 20s, you're

1421
01:37:41,458 --> 01:37:45,250
still very self-centered,

1422
01:37:45,250 --> 01:37:47,541
you're still very, like, focused on you,

1423
01:37:48,416 --> 01:37:50,291
and as you get older, your

1424
01:37:50,291 --> 01:37:53,416
perspective opens so much more.

1425
01:37:53,416 --> 01:37:54,750
Part of it is because of

1426
01:37:54,750 --> 01:37:56,416
the kids and the community

1427
01:37:56,625 --> 01:37:58,166
that you find yourself

1428
01:37:58,166 --> 01:37:59,708
in, that all of a sudden,

1429
01:37:59,750 --> 01:38:02,250
you care way more about

1430
01:38:02,250 --> 01:38:04,125
things outside of your own home.

1431
01:38:04,583 --> 01:38:06,625
Yeah, there's a, I can't

1432
01:38:06,625 --> 01:38:07,291
even think of the name of it

1433
01:38:07,291 --> 01:38:08,708
right now, but that's the pyramid, right,

1434
01:38:09,291 --> 01:38:13,375
of self-discovery and self-efficacy,

1435
01:38:13,625 --> 01:38:14,875
I don't know what it is, but

1436
01:38:14,875 --> 01:38:17,375
you take of your basic needs,

1437
01:38:17,375 --> 01:38:18,166
that's the biggest one.

1438
01:38:18,625 --> 01:38:19,458
Once you hit your basic

1439
01:38:19,458 --> 01:38:20,666
needs, you go on to the next one,

1440
01:38:20,666 --> 01:38:21,458
right, which are things

1441
01:38:21,458 --> 01:38:23,125
that you don't have to have,

1442
01:38:23,125 --> 01:38:23,916
but you like to have.

1443
01:38:25,000 --> 01:38:27,833
The very top of that is altruism, right,

1444
01:38:27,958 --> 01:38:29,291
which means you feel

1445
01:38:29,291 --> 01:38:30,333
like you've got everything

1446
01:38:30,333 --> 01:38:31,583
you've needed taken care of, and that

1447
01:38:31,583 --> 01:38:32,416
doesn't mean economic,

1448
01:38:32,625 --> 01:38:34,333
just means, sometimes it is economic,

1449
01:38:34,333 --> 01:38:35,791
but it doesn't have to be, right,

1450
01:38:36,208 --> 01:38:38,083
but at the top of that is altruism,

1451
01:38:38,083 --> 01:38:40,666
which means you actually understand

1452
01:38:41,458 --> 01:38:42,625
that taking care of

1453
01:38:42,625 --> 01:38:45,041
everybody helps take care of you.

1454
01:38:45,041 --> 01:38:45,250
Yeah.

1455
01:38:45,666 --> 01:38:46,833
You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah.

1456
01:38:46,875 --> 01:38:47,625
And that's kind of where

1457
01:38:47,625 --> 01:38:48,416
you're going with that,

1458
01:38:48,416 --> 01:38:49,208
I think people do get

1459
01:38:49,208 --> 01:38:50,125
that way as they get older,

1460
01:38:50,583 --> 01:38:52,208
where it's like, okay, this world's

1461
01:38:52,208 --> 01:38:53,500
bigger than just me.

1462
01:38:53,500 --> 01:38:53,750
Yeah.

1463
01:38:54,500 --> 01:38:57,625
If we can, if we can all work together,

1464
01:38:57,666 --> 01:38:59,333
maybe we can make the world the place

1465
01:38:59,333 --> 01:39:00,625
that we want it to be.

1466
01:39:00,625 --> 01:39:01,458
Yeah, yeah.

1467
01:39:01,500 --> 01:39:02,458
And I think that's the

1468
01:39:02,458 --> 01:39:04,375
way it kind of used to work.

1469
01:39:04,375 --> 01:39:05,666
I don't know if it's used to work,

1470
01:39:05,666 --> 01:39:06,541
because you can go through

1471
01:39:06,541 --> 01:39:07,916
history the last 250 years,

1472
01:39:07,916 --> 01:39:08,791
and it's been ups and downs.

1473
01:39:09,041 --> 01:39:10,041
Sure, sure.

1474
01:39:11,666 --> 01:39:12,125
Irregardless of what

1475
01:39:12,125 --> 01:39:12,875
side you're on right now,

1476
01:39:12,875 --> 01:39:14,416
it's an up and down time right now, too.

1477
01:39:14,416 --> 01:39:15,333
Oh, yeah, absolutely.

1478
01:39:16,375 --> 01:39:18,458
But it's crazy, that's just

1479
01:39:18,458 --> 01:39:19,291
another one of those things

1480
01:39:19,458 --> 01:39:21,500
that as you start, when you're 25,

1481
01:39:21,791 --> 01:39:22,958
you don't think about all these things

1482
01:39:22,958 --> 01:39:23,625
that you're just

1483
01:39:23,625 --> 01:39:26,041
really trying to deal with

1484
01:39:26,541 --> 01:39:27,458
and how to handle it.

1485
01:39:28,500 --> 01:39:29,416
Politically, it's funny,

1486
01:39:29,416 --> 01:39:30,958
because now nobody talks about it, right?

1487
01:39:31,166 --> 01:39:32,791
You know who it's safe to talk to

1488
01:39:32,791 --> 01:39:34,458
and who it's not safe to talk to about

1489
01:39:34,458 --> 01:39:35,541
politics these days.

1490
01:39:37,583 --> 01:39:39,291
And that's kind of what people do.

1491
01:39:39,291 --> 01:39:41,750
I hope it changes as we get older,

1492
01:39:42,833 --> 01:39:44,666
or as we get further along at some point,

1493
01:39:45,333 --> 01:39:46,250
these parties are gonna

1494
01:39:46,250 --> 01:39:47,416
have to get their acts together

1495
01:39:47,416 --> 01:39:49,250
so that we can get back

1496
01:39:49,250 --> 01:39:51,833
to having good arguments

1497
01:39:52,750 --> 01:39:55,500
and shaking hands and having dinner.

1498
01:39:56,541 --> 01:39:59,833
In Washington, but that's

1499
01:39:59,833 --> 01:40:01,125
just another one of those things

1500
01:40:01,125 --> 01:40:02,083
that as you get older, you

1501
01:40:02,083 --> 01:40:03,500
just kind of just keep layering

1502
01:40:03,500 --> 01:40:04,958
in all this stuff.

1503
01:40:06,125 --> 01:40:07,250
And then you start thinking about,

1504
01:40:07,250 --> 01:40:07,833
I mean, I don't know,

1505
01:40:07,833 --> 01:40:09,291
am I missing anything yet

1506
01:40:09,291 --> 01:40:11,125
that just jumping off the thing for you?

1507
01:40:12,000 --> 01:40:12,791
I don't think so.

1508
01:40:12,833 --> 01:40:14,458
But I'm not quite there

1509
01:40:14,458 --> 01:40:17,250
yet, but legacy, right?

1510
01:40:17,458 --> 01:40:19,000
Is something because our

1511
01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:20,875
kids are getting to an age

1512
01:40:21,875 --> 01:40:23,208
where they're gonna

1513
01:40:23,208 --> 01:40:25,125
leave our house soon, right?

1514
01:40:25,125 --> 01:40:26,541
And they were talking earlier, it's like,

1515
01:40:27,041 --> 01:40:31,125
I hope you have everything

1516
01:40:31,125 --> 01:40:32,458
that you could possibly have had

1517
01:40:32,458 --> 01:40:34,750
that we could provide you with, right?

1518
01:40:35,541 --> 01:40:36,541
And I hope it's enough to

1519
01:40:36,541 --> 01:40:38,791
just give you that inertia

1520
01:40:39,083 --> 01:40:40,125
and that push and that

1521
01:40:40,125 --> 01:40:41,875
inner fire or whatever it is,

1522
01:40:42,208 --> 01:40:42,958
just to go out there

1523
01:40:42,958 --> 01:40:45,500
and just enjoy your life.

1524
01:40:45,541 --> 01:40:46,750
Exactly. Right, crush it.

1525
01:40:46,750 --> 01:40:47,750
Like we've told our kids,

1526
01:40:48,458 --> 01:40:50,000
like, all I want you to be

1527
01:40:50,416 --> 01:40:52,791
is be someone that, I want

1528
01:40:52,791 --> 01:40:53,791
you to be happy and kind.

1529
01:40:54,708 --> 01:40:55,875
And I want you to give

1530
01:40:55,875 --> 01:40:56,958
something to society.

1531
01:40:56,958 --> 01:40:58,583
Find whatever you're good at.

1532
01:40:59,083 --> 01:40:59,958
Whatever, you know, I

1533
01:40:59,958 --> 01:41:01,000
don't wanna say makes you happy

1534
01:41:01,000 --> 01:41:01,750
because I think that's a

1535
01:41:01,750 --> 01:41:02,708
little bit of a misnomer,

1536
01:41:02,708 --> 01:41:03,416
like, you know what I mean?

1537
01:41:04,458 --> 01:41:06,000
Drawing in the sand makes me happy.

1538
01:41:06,000 --> 01:41:06,833
Well, you gotta do more

1539
01:41:06,833 --> 01:41:07,500
than draw in the sand.

1540
01:41:08,083 --> 01:41:09,208
Right. You know what I mean?

1541
01:41:09,916 --> 01:41:10,708
But, you know, add some

1542
01:41:10,708 --> 01:41:12,125
value, find a way to add value,

1543
01:41:12,125 --> 01:41:13,500
find your way to add value

1544
01:41:13,500 --> 01:41:15,750
to society in an economic way.

1545
01:41:15,750 --> 01:41:16,708
And you'll find, you'll

1546
01:41:16,708 --> 01:41:18,333
get some sense of self worth

1547
01:41:18,500 --> 01:41:21,375
back from that and be kind and be happy.

1548
01:41:21,375 --> 01:41:22,250
That's all I want from them.

1549
01:41:22,291 --> 01:41:23,875
Yes, yes. For them.

1550
01:41:24,250 --> 01:41:25,125
I know, like.

1551
01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:27,750
But then, you know, once,

1552
01:41:27,875 --> 01:41:29,375
that's kind of our job to get that done.

1553
01:41:29,375 --> 01:41:30,000
And there's a lot we can

1554
01:41:30,000 --> 01:41:31,541
do as parents after that.

1555
01:41:31,583 --> 01:41:32,916
Yeah. You know?

1556
01:41:33,125 --> 01:41:33,750
And that'll be

1557
01:41:33,750 --> 01:41:35,000
interesting because, you know,

1558
01:41:35,000 --> 01:41:35,708
that gets into that

1559
01:41:35,708 --> 01:41:37,041
whole discussion of like,

1560
01:41:37,041 --> 01:41:38,041
well, how are our parents

1561
01:41:38,041 --> 01:41:39,458
and how are they with us now?

1562
01:41:39,458 --> 01:41:40,666
And how do we wanna be different?

1563
01:41:41,041 --> 01:41:42,166
Everybody wants to be a different parent

1564
01:41:42,166 --> 01:41:43,625
than their parents were to some degree.

1565
01:41:43,625 --> 01:41:45,000
Some degree. Or improve on this,

1566
01:41:45,000 --> 01:41:46,333
or improve on that or whatever.

1567
01:41:46,458 --> 01:41:47,000
Right, right.

1568
01:41:47,291 --> 01:41:48,250
I mean, it's very few

1569
01:41:48,250 --> 01:41:50,291
people who are like exactly like,

1570
01:41:50,291 --> 01:41:51,458
I wanna be just like

1571
01:41:51,458 --> 01:41:52,916
this parent, you know?

1572
01:41:52,958 --> 01:41:54,125
I was like, oh no, I really

1573
01:41:54,125 --> 01:41:56,166
liked how my parents did this.

1574
01:41:56,208 --> 01:41:57,208
And that's not a dig on the parents.

1575
01:41:57,375 --> 01:41:57,916
No, not at all. It's just everybody's

1576
01:41:58,208 --> 01:41:59,250
individual and, right.

1577
01:41:59,250 --> 01:42:00,000
Our kids are gonna do

1578
01:42:00,000 --> 01:42:00,875
the same thing to us.

1579
01:42:00,875 --> 01:42:02,750
Be like, oh my gosh, my

1580
01:42:02,750 --> 01:42:03,791
mom was awful at this,

1581
01:42:03,791 --> 01:42:05,458
so I'd like to improve on that, you know?

1582
01:42:05,458 --> 01:42:06,625
Like, it's okay. Right, right.

1583
01:42:06,666 --> 01:42:07,958
But she was really good at this

1584
01:42:07,958 --> 01:42:09,750
and I wanna do that the same way.

1585
01:42:09,833 --> 01:42:11,125
Yeah. I expect that.

1586
01:42:11,208 --> 01:42:12,333
Yeah, exactly. And I hope that.

1587
01:42:12,708 --> 01:42:13,500
That's true because I

1588
01:42:13,500 --> 01:42:14,833
think being a parent

1589
01:42:15,041 --> 01:42:15,750
more than anything,

1590
01:42:16,916 --> 01:42:18,708
like you do have to be

1591
01:42:20,208 --> 01:42:21,666
somewhat authentic to who you are.

1592
01:42:21,708 --> 01:42:23,375
I mean, yes, you have to be a

1593
01:42:23,375 --> 01:42:24,250
disciplinarian sometimes,

1594
01:42:24,250 --> 01:42:26,541
even if that's not where it comes,

1595
01:42:27,708 --> 01:42:30,708
naturally, but you still have to be that.

1596
01:42:31,125 --> 01:42:32,458
But at the same time,

1597
01:42:32,458 --> 01:42:33,666
your kids are gonna know

1598
01:42:33,666 --> 01:42:34,458
your authentic self

1599
01:42:34,458 --> 01:42:35,416
through how you parent them.

1600
01:42:35,875 --> 01:42:36,916
Yeah, and I think that's something

1601
01:42:36,916 --> 01:42:38,250
that I've worked really hard on

1602
01:42:38,250 --> 01:42:39,708
and I know you're working on it.

1603
01:42:40,000 --> 01:42:40,875
You're good at it, but

1604
01:42:40,875 --> 01:42:41,791
there are some aspects

1605
01:42:41,791 --> 01:42:42,583
you're working on, but

1606
01:42:42,583 --> 01:42:43,541
I've been very honest

1607
01:42:43,541 --> 01:42:45,041
with our kids of, hey,

1608
01:42:45,041 --> 01:42:45,833
look, this is who I am.

1609
01:42:46,666 --> 01:42:48,000
I'm not perfect.

1610
01:42:48,666 --> 01:42:51,875
I'm not trying to pretend I am.

1611
01:42:52,166 --> 01:42:52,791
We're all humans.

1612
01:42:53,208 --> 01:42:53,916
It's trying to show them

1613
01:42:53,916 --> 01:42:55,125
it's okay not to be perfect

1614
01:42:55,125 --> 01:42:56,833
because we've talked about it.

1615
01:42:56,833 --> 01:42:57,666
We have super high

1616
01:42:57,666 --> 01:42:58,666
expectations in our house,

1617
01:42:58,666 --> 01:42:59,625
whether it's academic,

1618
01:42:59,625 --> 01:43:00,333
whether it's athletic,

1619
01:43:00,708 --> 01:43:02,000
whatever it is, all kinds of things.

1620
01:43:02,000 --> 01:43:03,375
We have high expectations,

1621
01:43:03,625 --> 01:43:05,250
but we don't expect you to be perfect.

1622
01:43:05,291 --> 01:43:06,208
No. You know what I mean?

1623
01:43:06,875 --> 01:43:08,166
And the way I show

1624
01:43:08,166 --> 01:43:09,083
them that is by leading.

1625
01:43:09,333 --> 01:43:10,458
I'm not perfect either.

1626
01:43:10,458 --> 01:43:11,041
Right, right. You know what I mean?

1627
01:43:11,041 --> 01:43:11,791
And I'm not trying to,

1628
01:43:11,791 --> 01:43:13,458
I'm not trying to, what

1629
01:43:13,458 --> 01:43:14,291
am I trying to say here?

1630
01:43:14,458 --> 01:43:19,416
I'm not trying to subtly suggest

1631
01:43:19,416 --> 01:43:20,625
that I've got major issues.

1632
01:43:20,958 --> 01:43:22,708
I don't, I've got life

1633
01:43:22,708 --> 01:43:24,041
together fairly well,

1634
01:43:24,041 --> 01:43:25,125
but I'm not perfect.

1635
01:43:25,416 --> 01:43:25,916
You know what I mean?

1636
01:43:26,458 --> 01:43:27,958
With our kids, like, do I

1637
01:43:27,958 --> 01:43:29,000
overreact to things sometimes?

1638
01:43:29,291 --> 01:43:29,625
Yeah.

1639
01:43:29,958 --> 01:43:31,041
If I'm in a bad mood, do I take it on

1640
01:43:31,041 --> 01:43:31,750
other people sometimes?

1641
01:43:32,208 --> 01:43:32,500
Yeah.

1642
01:43:32,958 --> 01:43:34,500
And those are the things that we go back

1643
01:43:34,875 --> 01:43:36,166
and we're like, hey, I messed up.

1644
01:43:36,708 --> 01:43:38,083
I was mad about this at work.

1645
01:43:38,791 --> 01:43:40,583
You kinda, you forgot to do your thing.

1646
01:43:40,583 --> 01:43:41,333
You've had to throw trash

1647
01:43:41,333 --> 01:43:42,458
away, and I took it out on you.

1648
01:43:43,000 --> 01:43:43,625
I mean, it's something that

1649
01:43:43,625 --> 01:43:44,666
wasn't that big of a deal.

1650
01:43:44,666 --> 01:43:44,875
Right.

1651
01:43:45,125 --> 01:43:47,208
So those are the things that I feel like,

1652
01:43:47,500 --> 01:43:49,166
you know, like, we do

1653
01:43:49,166 --> 01:43:51,625
try very hard to be real.

1654
01:43:51,916 --> 01:43:52,166
Yeah.

1655
01:43:52,875 --> 01:43:53,875
You know, like with emotions,

1656
01:43:54,083 --> 01:43:55,166
and that's something you kinda work on

1657
01:43:55,166 --> 01:43:56,875
is trying to show emotions to them.

1658
01:43:57,250 --> 01:43:57,458
Right.

1659
01:43:57,625 --> 01:43:58,666
It's not always just perfect.

1660
01:43:58,916 --> 01:44:00,000
It's not always perfect, yeah.

1661
01:44:00,250 --> 01:44:01,458
Yeah, it's okay to be sad.

1662
01:44:01,458 --> 01:44:02,875
It's okay to be frustrated.

1663
01:44:02,875 --> 01:44:03,750
It's okay, you know.

1664
01:44:03,791 --> 01:44:04,000
Yeah.

1665
01:44:05,166 --> 01:44:06,291
So it's that legacy though is

1666
01:44:06,291 --> 01:44:07,083
where I was going with that.

1667
01:44:07,083 --> 01:44:08,750
It's like, that next stage is like,

1668
01:44:08,750 --> 01:44:09,750
what are we leaving behind?

1669
01:44:09,750 --> 01:44:10,416
We're leaving hopefully

1670
01:44:10,416 --> 01:44:11,791
some very well-adjusted,

1671
01:44:12,166 --> 01:44:15,333
happy, well, you know, successful kids.

1672
01:44:15,375 --> 01:44:15,541
Yeah.

1673
01:44:15,875 --> 01:44:17,208
You know, and successful in whatever way

1674
01:44:17,208 --> 01:44:18,541
that defines their success.

1675
01:44:18,583 --> 01:44:19,708
Their success, exactly.

1676
01:44:20,041 --> 01:44:20,416
You know.

1677
01:44:20,833 --> 01:44:21,041
Exactly.

1678
01:44:22,083 --> 01:44:24,791
I think that's, that is huge,

1679
01:44:24,791 --> 01:44:25,500
and now is the time

1680
01:44:25,500 --> 01:44:26,333
when we start thinking

1681
01:44:26,416 --> 01:44:27,541
about that more and more.

1682
01:44:27,958 --> 01:44:28,166
Yeah.

1683
01:44:29,333 --> 01:44:31,000
Because it's, I mean,

1684
01:44:31,125 --> 01:44:33,041
you start counting down

1685
01:44:33,250 --> 01:44:36,125
of like the utter shock and awe of like,

1686
01:44:36,500 --> 01:44:37,708
we only have two more years left,

1687
01:44:37,708 --> 01:44:38,166
or two and a half

1688
01:44:38,166 --> 01:44:40,416
years left with that child

1689
01:44:40,458 --> 01:44:41,875
before they leave the house.

1690
01:44:41,916 --> 01:44:45,041
And your children, even

1691
01:44:45,041 --> 01:44:46,083
after they leave the house,

1692
01:44:46,083 --> 01:44:46,916
are still your children.

1693
01:44:47,208 --> 01:44:48,375
And it doesn't mean that

1694
01:44:48,375 --> 01:44:49,541
you don't have time with them,

1695
01:44:49,541 --> 01:44:51,208
but that time changes

1696
01:44:51,208 --> 01:44:55,416
entirely after they leave your home.

1697
01:44:56,125 --> 01:44:56,333
I know.

1698
01:44:57,041 --> 01:44:57,833
I'm just not ready.

1699
01:44:57,833 --> 01:44:59,291
I've said it a million times on here.

1700
01:44:59,291 --> 01:45:00,208
I'm just not ready for it yet.

1701
01:45:00,416 --> 01:45:01,875
But you know, he hasn't,

1702
01:45:01,875 --> 01:45:04,333
you know, soiled the nest yet.

1703
01:45:05,125 --> 01:45:05,583
You know what I mean?

1704
01:45:05,833 --> 01:45:06,083
That's right.

1705
01:45:06,083 --> 01:45:06,791
I can't imagine.

1706
01:45:06,791 --> 01:45:09,208
I mean, he gets more attitude than the

1707
01:45:09,208 --> 01:45:10,083
necessary sometimes.

1708
01:45:10,916 --> 01:45:11,750
But you know, within,

1709
01:45:11,750 --> 01:45:13,333
I think, expectations.

1710
01:45:13,875 --> 01:45:14,083
Yeah.

1711
01:45:14,208 --> 01:45:15,666
But he also can be like,

1712
01:45:16,333 --> 01:45:18,333
he just will blow your expectations away

1713
01:45:18,333 --> 01:45:19,208
when you're like, oh my

1714
01:45:19,208 --> 01:45:20,541
gosh, you just completely,

1715
01:45:21,000 --> 01:45:21,875
or the sweetest human

1716
01:45:21,875 --> 01:45:23,750
being, or whatever it was,

1717
01:45:23,750 --> 01:45:25,083
like, oh my gosh, I'm so proud of you

1718
01:45:25,083 --> 01:45:26,041
because you did that.

1719
01:45:26,333 --> 01:45:26,500
Right.

1720
01:45:26,958 --> 01:45:27,666
And the other part of

1721
01:45:27,666 --> 01:45:28,666
that's hard for them,

1722
01:45:28,666 --> 01:45:29,583
just leaving the house,

1723
01:45:29,583 --> 01:45:30,375
is just knowing that I

1724
01:45:30,375 --> 01:45:31,625
saw this the other day.

1725
01:45:31,625 --> 01:45:32,250
Like we've known it,

1726
01:45:32,250 --> 01:45:33,291
but I've seen the stats

1727
01:45:33,291 --> 01:45:34,375
and it's coming out a

1728
01:45:34,375 --> 01:45:35,083
little bit more to you

1729
01:45:35,083 --> 01:45:36,041
that this will likely

1730
01:45:36,041 --> 01:45:36,958
be the first generation

1731
01:45:36,958 --> 01:45:38,000
that won't be able to improve

1732
01:45:38,000 --> 01:45:39,541
upon their parents' economic status.

1733
01:45:40,500 --> 01:45:41,625
I mean, that's been the

1734
01:45:41,625 --> 01:45:43,333
case for multiple generations,

1735
01:45:44,583 --> 01:45:46,375
in modern era, basically.

1736
01:45:46,708 --> 01:45:47,833
And this will be the first generation

1737
01:45:48,000 --> 01:45:51,000
that really finds difficult to improve.

1738
01:45:51,875 --> 01:45:52,958
And that's something that

1739
01:45:52,958 --> 01:45:55,333
would be difficult, I think.

1740
01:45:55,875 --> 01:45:56,500
And I've already tried

1741
01:45:56,500 --> 01:45:57,708
to lay seeds for this,

1742
01:45:57,708 --> 01:45:58,166
being like, hey,

1743
01:45:58,166 --> 01:46:00,250
look, you have two parents

1744
01:46:00,250 --> 01:46:01,500
that have been successful in their

1745
01:46:01,500 --> 01:46:03,000
careers to some degree.

1746
01:46:04,125 --> 01:46:06,750
And don't feel like you have

1747
01:46:06,750 --> 01:46:08,000
to live in a house like this.

1748
01:46:08,333 --> 01:46:09,000
If you don't live in a house

1749
01:46:09,000 --> 01:46:10,041
like this when you grow up,

1750
01:46:10,083 --> 01:46:10,708
that's okay.

1751
01:46:11,375 --> 01:46:11,541
Yeah.

1752
01:46:11,625 --> 01:46:12,000
You know what I mean?

1753
01:46:12,875 --> 01:46:13,916
Like, just want you to be happy again.

1754
01:46:13,916 --> 01:46:14,791
Just want you to be happy.

1755
01:46:14,791 --> 01:46:15,458
Just be kind and happy.

1756
01:46:15,791 --> 01:46:16,250
You know what I mean?

1757
01:46:16,750 --> 01:46:17,666
Find success in your own way.

1758
01:46:18,000 --> 01:46:18,875
Has nothing to do

1759
01:46:18,875 --> 01:46:19,916
with that kind of stuff.

1760
01:46:20,375 --> 01:46:22,125
Money has nothing to do with happiness.

1761
01:46:23,000 --> 01:46:23,916
We were just talking about the other day,

1762
01:46:24,166 --> 01:46:25,375
like I don't think it was on this,

1763
01:46:25,375 --> 01:46:26,333
but we were talking about the other day,

1764
01:46:26,333 --> 01:46:27,500
like we could be billionaires.

1765
01:46:28,083 --> 01:46:29,500
We could be billionaires.

1766
01:46:30,208 --> 01:46:31,000
And the things that make

1767
01:46:31,000 --> 01:46:32,416
us mad on a daily basis,

1768
01:46:33,125 --> 01:46:34,250
money wouldn't change.

1769
01:46:34,500 --> 01:46:35,166
Nope, nope.

1770
01:46:35,541 --> 01:46:36,500
I would still be annoyed

1771
01:46:36,500 --> 01:46:38,625
at X, Y, or Z, you know?

1772
01:46:38,916 --> 01:46:39,083
Like--

1773
01:46:40,041 --> 01:46:41,500
It wouldn't change any of those things.

1774
01:46:41,500 --> 01:46:41,833
No, it wouldn't.

1775
01:46:42,500 --> 01:46:44,666
So money's just not the answer.

1776
01:46:45,166 --> 01:46:47,500
It makes life easier, buys fun toys.

1777
01:46:47,875 --> 01:46:49,708
All that's true, but it's not the answer.

1778
01:46:50,166 --> 01:46:53,208
You have to be okay before.

1779
01:46:53,791 --> 01:46:54,208
There's plenty of

1780
01:46:54,208 --> 01:46:55,041
people that have got money

1781
01:46:55,041 --> 01:46:56,000
one way or another,

1782
01:46:56,000 --> 01:46:57,083
and they're miserable.

1783
01:46:57,458 --> 01:46:58,291
That's exactly right.

1784
01:46:58,583 --> 01:46:59,791
Or they lose it because

1785
01:46:59,791 --> 01:47:00,750
they don't want to handle it.

1786
01:47:02,541 --> 01:47:03,583
Anyways, I just thought

1787
01:47:03,583 --> 01:47:04,500
it was interesting today

1788
01:47:04,500 --> 01:47:05,500
to talk through that, but

1789
01:47:05,500 --> 01:47:06,666
am I missing anything else?

1790
01:47:07,125 --> 01:47:08,416
I don't think so.

1791
01:47:08,416 --> 01:47:08,666
Okay.

1792
01:47:09,250 --> 01:47:11,000
I think you nailed it.

1793
01:47:11,333 --> 01:47:12,166
I nailed it, yes.

1794
01:47:12,416 --> 01:47:13,666
Nailed it. We did, nailed it.

1795
01:47:13,666 --> 01:47:15,541
Well, we're squeezing

1796
01:47:15,541 --> 01:47:17,041
this in between a pickup

1797
01:47:17,041 --> 01:47:18,208
and a takeoff.

1798
01:47:18,625 --> 01:47:20,250
Yep, that's exactly right.

1799
01:47:20,541 --> 01:47:21,875
That's exactly right.

1800
01:47:21,875 --> 01:47:23,583
Because the chaos train keeps going.

1801
01:47:23,625 --> 01:47:26,041
The chaos train is not stopping.

1802
01:47:26,041 --> 01:47:26,708
It doesn't stop.

1803
01:47:27,500 --> 01:47:28,208
It slows down so you

1804
01:47:28,208 --> 01:47:29,166
can like hop on board,

1805
01:47:29,458 --> 01:47:31,458
but yeah, it doesn't stop.

1806
01:47:31,750 --> 01:47:32,333
I think there's been a

1807
01:47:32,333 --> 01:47:33,125
couple times where I'm like,

1808
01:47:33,125 --> 01:47:34,375
"Here, we're gonna hit me."

1809
01:47:35,583 --> 01:47:36,791
I'll catch the next one, I guess.

1810
01:47:37,875 --> 01:47:39,833
It's just so chaotic.

1811
01:47:40,166 --> 01:47:40,833
That is funny.

1812
01:47:41,875 --> 01:47:42,791
I feel that way.

1813
01:47:44,541 --> 01:47:45,250
Yeah, yeah.

1814
01:47:45,708 --> 01:47:48,166
All right, well, I guess

1815
01:47:48,166 --> 01:47:49,250
we gotta think of our words.

1816
01:47:49,958 --> 01:47:50,291
Yeah.

1817
01:47:52,666 --> 01:47:53,041
Mine's kinda weird.

1818
01:47:53,708 --> 01:47:54,833
Okay, I was gonna say, I

1819
01:47:54,833 --> 01:47:55,416
don't think I have any.

1820
01:47:55,666 --> 01:47:56,291
Yeah, I don't know that

1821
01:47:56,291 --> 01:47:57,291
I do either, but I know.

1822
01:47:57,875 --> 01:47:58,916
One, two, three.

1823
01:47:59,125 --> 01:47:59,875
Tetris. Autumn.

1824
01:48:00,791 --> 01:48:01,916
Tetris is a really good one.

1825
01:48:02,250 --> 01:48:03,916
Oh, so tell me about Autumn.

1826
01:48:04,500 --> 01:48:05,291
No, it's just the time of

1827
01:48:05,291 --> 01:48:06,125
the year, similar to yours.

1828
01:48:06,166 --> 01:48:09,625
Yours last year was the drink.

1829
01:48:11,041 --> 01:48:12,041
Pumpkin spice. Oh, yeah,

1830
01:48:12,041 --> 01:48:13,208
pumpkin spice, yeah.

1831
01:48:13,291 --> 01:48:14,208
Mine's Autumn, you

1832
01:48:14,208 --> 01:48:15,833
know, we've got the scents

1833
01:48:15,833 --> 01:48:18,416
in the house, we've

1834
01:48:18,416 --> 01:48:20,041
got seasonal decorations,

1835
01:48:20,291 --> 01:48:21,208
we had cold weather this

1836
01:48:21,208 --> 01:48:22,458
week, it's just starting to feel

1837
01:48:22,791 --> 01:48:23,958
a little bit like Autumn.

1838
01:48:24,791 --> 01:48:25,291
Which is a great

1839
01:48:25,291 --> 01:48:26,541
season, I love this season.

1840
01:48:27,041 --> 01:48:28,625
I know the kids do too, so.

1841
01:48:28,625 --> 01:48:30,041
Oh my gosh, it's like

1842
01:48:30,041 --> 01:48:31,291
all the anticipation

1843
01:48:31,583 --> 01:48:32,625
and we're coming up on

1844
01:48:32,625 --> 01:48:33,666
Thanksgiving and Christmas

1845
01:48:33,958 --> 01:48:34,833
oh my gosh, it really

1846
01:48:34,833 --> 01:48:36,541
is, it is an awesome time.

1847
01:48:36,541 --> 01:48:38,041
Trying to fight off sinus infections,

1848
01:48:38,041 --> 01:48:39,458
it's a great season. It's a great season.

1849
01:48:40,000 --> 01:48:40,625
It's a great season.

1850
01:48:41,625 --> 01:48:42,500
But Tetris for you.

1851
01:48:42,916 --> 01:48:45,500
Tetris, I feel like last

1852
01:48:45,500 --> 01:48:47,541
week, this week, next week,

1853
01:48:47,541 --> 01:48:50,583
it is just about fitting it all in.

1854
01:48:50,875 --> 01:48:53,250
100%, that would work for me too.

1855
01:48:53,625 --> 01:48:57,041
I mean, I could, I could, what is it?

1856
01:48:57,333 --> 01:48:58,666
Same same. Same same.

1857
01:48:58,708 --> 01:48:59,875
Yeah. Same.

1858
01:49:00,291 --> 01:49:01,125
Same, yeah.

1859
01:49:01,375 --> 01:49:03,291
(laughing) Yeah, there's a lot of

1860
01:49:03,291 --> 01:49:04,833
just gotta get that done,

1861
01:49:04,833 --> 01:49:05,333
gotta get that done.

1862
01:49:05,958 --> 01:49:07,458
I am in that mode right now, I'm in mind

1863
01:49:07,458 --> 01:49:08,125
where it's just like,

1864
01:49:08,625 --> 01:49:09,291
just gotta put my

1865
01:49:09,291 --> 01:49:10,000
head down and keep going.

1866
01:49:10,250 --> 01:49:11,208
One foot in front of the other.

1867
01:49:11,250 --> 01:49:13,000
Yep. Can't stop, just gotta go.

1868
01:49:13,000 --> 01:49:13,541
Cause at some point

1869
01:49:13,541 --> 01:49:14,875
we're gonna get to a spot

1870
01:49:14,875 --> 01:49:15,541
where I can't take a

1871
01:49:15,541 --> 01:49:17,166
breath, but it's nice to me.

1872
01:49:17,583 --> 01:49:20,041
Nope, hopefully over Thanksgiving break.

1873
01:49:20,291 --> 01:49:20,916
For the next day.

1874
01:49:21,666 --> 01:49:22,583
(laughing)

1875
01:49:22,625 --> 01:49:24,958
Yeah, I feel like I

1876
01:49:24,958 --> 01:49:26,208
look at my outlet calendar

1877
01:49:26,208 --> 01:49:28,750
and I'm like, okay,

1878
01:49:29,333 --> 01:49:30,916
Tetris, let me move this

1879
01:49:31,000 --> 01:49:32,375
so I can accommodate this and let me

1880
01:49:32,375 --> 01:49:33,916
switch that on its side.

1881
01:49:33,916 --> 01:49:35,083
I can get it in here.

1882
01:49:35,333 --> 01:49:35,916
Well, let me know if

1883
01:49:35,916 --> 01:49:36,583
there's anything I can do

1884
01:49:36,583 --> 01:49:37,416
or let me know if there's anything

1885
01:49:37,416 --> 01:49:38,375
these people can do for you.

1886
01:49:38,958 --> 01:49:39,375
They can.

1887
01:49:40,333 --> 01:49:41,375
We'll call them friends and family.

1888
01:49:41,416 --> 01:49:43,083
We'll call them, it takes a village.

1889
01:49:43,666 --> 01:49:45,125
Yeah, delivered dinners

1890
01:49:45,125 --> 01:49:46,208
would be great, lasagna.

1891
01:49:48,625 --> 01:49:49,000
(laughing)

1892
01:49:50,375 --> 01:49:51,333
I actually know lasagna kids.

1893
01:49:52,708 --> 01:49:53,875
They need to, I love lasagna.

1894
01:49:53,916 --> 01:49:54,875
I love lasagna. I like it so good.

1895
01:49:54,875 --> 01:49:56,416
Make it again, they might like it now.

1896
01:49:56,416 --> 01:49:56,750
Oh, they might.

1897
01:49:57,000 --> 01:49:57,708
How do we have kids

1898
01:49:57,708 --> 01:49:58,625
that don't like pasta?

1899
01:49:58,625 --> 01:49:59,166
Where is my mic?

1900
01:49:59,625 --> 01:50:00,166
I don't know.

1901
01:50:00,875 --> 01:50:01,750
Well, let's let these people go.

1902
01:50:02,375 --> 01:50:03,458
Episode 43, in the books.

1903
01:50:03,708 --> 01:50:06,083
In the books, so here we go, chow chow.

1904
01:50:06,125 --> 01:50:07,083
All right, we'll see ya.

1905
01:50:07,291 --> 01:50:07,500
Bye.

1906
01:50:10,166 --> 01:50:11,541
I was trying to get you out of there.

1907
01:50:11,541 --> 01:50:13,916
Yeah, all right, thank you.

1908
01:55:12,916 --> 01:55:14,416
(upbeat music)

1909
01:55:15,083 --> 01:55:16,666
Do you think you'd be interested

1910
01:55:16,916 --> 01:55:18,791
in doing a podcast with me?

1911
01:55:18,791 --> 01:55:19,541
(laughing)

1912
01:55:19,541 --> 01:55:21,041
I mean, it's laughable.

1913
01:55:21,666 --> 01:55:21,958
No.

1914
01:55:22,583 --> 01:55:23,333
Like and subscribe.

1915
01:55:24,000 --> 01:55:25,000
But you're lame.

1916
01:55:25,375 --> 01:55:26,583
I'm not gonna give you the time of day.

1917
01:55:27,416 --> 01:55:28,708
Oh, you think this is hard.

1918
01:55:28,708 --> 01:55:29,208
You just waited.

1919
01:55:29,666 --> 01:55:30,416
30 year old Megan

1920
01:55:30,416 --> 01:55:31,708
could not have done that.

1921
01:55:32,041 --> 01:55:32,875
It's meant for napping.

1922
01:55:32,875 --> 01:55:34,041
Football is made for snacking.

1923
01:55:34,875 --> 01:55:35,708
You got this made for napping.

1924
01:55:35,958 --> 01:55:36,250
Yes.

1925
01:55:36,541 --> 01:55:36,750
Yeah.

1926
01:55:37,250 --> 01:55:38,333
Whole point of the sports.

1927
01:55:38,541 --> 01:55:38,750
Exactly.

1928
01:55:38,750 --> 01:55:39,750
Like, well, you're a weighty-dwee.

1929
01:55:40,666 --> 01:55:40,875
Sure.

1930
01:55:41,541 --> 01:55:43,125
I'm like 50-50 yoga and work.

1931
01:55:43,125 --> 01:55:43,916
50-50 yoga and work.

1932
01:55:44,166 --> 01:55:44,833
I am a female.

1933
01:55:45,541 --> 01:55:45,958
That's crazy.

1934
01:55:46,458 --> 01:55:46,833
Insane.

1935
01:55:47,125 --> 01:55:48,291
We all know who that person is.

1936
01:55:48,291 --> 01:55:49,208
We all have one of those.

1937
01:55:49,416 --> 01:55:51,083
Deep it's a juggernaut has been the term

1938
01:55:51,083 --> 01:55:51,541
I've been through.

1939
01:55:52,083 --> 01:55:53,041
Your job will be posted

1940
01:55:53,041 --> 01:55:54,000
before you're obituary.

1941
01:55:54,541 --> 01:55:56,208
Money has nothing to do with happiness.

1942
01:55:56,625 --> 01:55:57,625
No, I'll get to that one later.

1943
01:55:57,916 --> 01:55:58,583
Yeah, whether that's

1944
01:55:58,583 --> 01:55:59,666
healthy or not, it's all over.

1945
01:55:59,916 --> 01:56:01,083
We basically work

1946
01:56:01,083 --> 01:56:02,916
anytime we are not at soccer.

1947
01:56:04,208 --> 01:56:04,250
(laughing)

1948
01:56:04,416 --> 01:56:04,958
Or track.

1949
01:56:05,458 --> 01:56:05,750
All right.

1950
01:56:05,750 --> 01:56:06,791
Episode 43, "In the Books."

1951
01:56:07,000 --> 01:56:07,458
"In the Books."

1952
01:56:07,750 --> 01:56:08,791
So, here we go.

1953
01:56:08,916 --> 01:56:09,416
Chow, chow.

1954
01:56:09,416 --> 01:56:09,958
All right, yeah.

1955
01:56:10,791 --> 01:56:11,541
Nailed it.