This is a second conversation with Lisa Barrett ( Karen Quigley ( and Benjamin Lyons ( about Relational Realism, allostasis, and questions of mind/body/behavior.
CHAPTERS:
(00:00) Rethinking emotion universals
(09:34) Brain evolution and allostasis
(17:25) Predictive processing and signaling
(30:05) Objectivity and first-person science
(38:45) Flexible body-world boundaries
(45:46) Relational meaning in perception
(52:06) Embodiment, morphospace and realism
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A podcast by Professor Michael Levin exploring the frontiers of biology, cognition, and emergence. Engage in conversations about morphogenesis, bioelectricity, and synthetic life — and uncover how intelligence and agency emerge from the most fundamental levels of nature.