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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun in

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<v Speaker 1>practical ways. Hey, everybody, welcome to the Bible Guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Here we are.

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<v Speaker 1>We are right here where we always are, in the

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<v Speaker 1>studio that is owned by a friend of ours who.

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<v Speaker 2>Are the headquarters of the Bible guys.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what it is. That's and other businesses in this

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<v Speaker 1>in the shopping center that's funny, or in this what

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<v Speaker 1>is it called industrial boning?

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<v Speaker 2>I guess the Ivory Tower.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, well that's exactly what it is, Mount Olympus, what ticnic.

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<v Speaker 2>Something like that is.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes. Hey, we're going to launch into a segment that

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<v Speaker 1>Desi Rae has put together. And this segment is great

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<v Speaker 1>only depending on the material. Yes, right, it's completely but

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<v Speaker 1>it's important. It is important. It is a dad joke competition,

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<v Speaker 1>and the competition is we're going to decide which joke

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<v Speaker 1>is better.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, here we go. Yep, are you going to go?

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<v Speaker 2>For sure? Am I going to go first?

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<v Speaker 1>Ahead?

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<v Speaker 2>If there were a pill to cure prostant procrastination, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>let me try it again. If there were a pill

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<v Speaker 2>to cure procrastination, I would probably take it tomorrow. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a rough one. There's a rough one.

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<v Speaker 1>Even if you had delivered that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it would have been a rough Yep, it

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<v Speaker 2>came out poorly.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well that's okay because it was rough. Anyways, how

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<v Speaker 1>about this one. Did you hear about the fight at

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<v Speaker 1>the fish and chip shop?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Five fish got battered and a bunch of chips were assaulted.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh now, okay, so I won that one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, okay, okay, okay. Some people have trouble sleeping,

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<v Speaker 2>but I can do it with my eyes closed. Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, it's not horrible.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's not horrible. It's not horrible. Okay, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>How about this one? Ready? Batman once forgot to pay

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<v Speaker 1>his electric bill. It was a dark night.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay. I don't know. Do you like better the

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<v Speaker 2>dark night? One dark night?

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<v Speaker 1>But I say that I'm winning here.

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<v Speaker 2>I like the eyes closed. Okay, Well, you're the voter.

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<v Speaker 2>You're the voter. You get to do it what I've

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<v Speaker 2>been voter. Okay, I've opened three birthday cards and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>already one hundred and fifty bucks up. I love being

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<v Speaker 2>a mailman.

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<v Speaker 1>That is great.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that a lot. That's really good. We should,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we should do we should call to We

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<v Speaker 1>should call Tori and tell her that one. She'd she'd

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<v Speaker 1>love it. I'm gonna try to remember that. Okay, here

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<v Speaker 1>we go. What do you call a group of anxious dinosaurs?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, nervous reres.

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<v Speaker 2>Nervous res. I like the mail better. Okay, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>say two to one now, now, why.

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<v Speaker 1>Couldn't Why couldn't the mailman one go against the dark

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<v Speaker 1>Knight one? I don't know why, because because that was

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<v Speaker 1>the nervous Wrex. Is funny.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a funny one, okay, Okay. I was up super

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<v Speaker 2>early this morning and I started wondering what time the

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<v Speaker 2>sun would rise, and then it dawned on me.

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<v Speaker 1>What did I like that one? And then that's really good? Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>How about this one? I received the flyer on anger

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<v Speaker 1>Management the other day. I lost it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good one.

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<v Speaker 1>I liked it, Okay, I liked it all right?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So which one one? That one?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh? What was yours? Wins?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I like mine?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, but I think don wins. I think we're too

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<v Speaker 3>all right. This one's clever, Okay, this one's clever. Will

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<v Speaker 3>glass Coffins be a success? Remains to be seen.

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<v Speaker 1>Remains to be seen.

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<v Speaker 2>Very clever, Yes, very clever.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah I liked it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you had it's clever.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to think about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody wants to think about dad jokes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Hey, uh, this is the one that wraps it up.

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<v Speaker 1>Here we go. Nine months isn't really that long. But

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<v Speaker 1>for some it can feel like a maternity.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's true. Okay, So which is it then? So

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<v Speaker 2>I was almost going to call it a tie. That

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<v Speaker 2>one felt like a tie to me. I thought the

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<v Speaker 2>maternity was fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, considering that you somehow assigned me to be the voter,

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<v Speaker 1>which we've never done before. You're the voter, Well, then

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<v Speaker 1>I will vote a tie.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay tie? Oh, yes, there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>H I will vote a tie.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, good job, Dez.

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<v Speaker 1>That's really great.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, it's five and five.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna I really like the mailman joke. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to remember that to pass on.

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<v Speaker 2>So I opened up three birthday cards today and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>already one hundred fifty bucks up.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, So good, all right, Ecclesiastes.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even have a transition for this one. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I always forget the transition.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I have nothing nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of funny. There is literally nothing funny at all about.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I got speaking of Coffins. This entire section is

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<v Speaker 2>about death comes to all.

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<v Speaker 1>Ooh, that's what the chapters are. It is yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so we just finished class. Coffin's joke Yeah leads

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<v Speaker 2>right into what a great transition remains?

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<v Speaker 1>Why that's why you are who you are?

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, yep, that's it. It's the one thing I'm good at.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're wondering why see transitions.

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<v Speaker 1>How is Jeff? Jeff? That's why is it?

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<v Speaker 2>Right here?

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<v Speaker 1>Under pressure, he comes up with the clutch transitions.

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<v Speaker 2>Ecclesiastes nine is where we're at. Verses one through twelve

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<v Speaker 2>says this too, I carefully explored. Even though the actions

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<v Speaker 2>of godly and wise people are in God's hands, no

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<v Speaker 2>one knows whether God will show them favor. The same

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<v Speaker 2>destiny ultimately awaits everyone, whether righteous or wicked, good or bad,

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<v Speaker 2>ceremonially clean or unclean, religious or irreligious. Good people receive

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<v Speaker 2>the same treatment as sinners, and people who make promises

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<v Speaker 2>to God are treated like people who don't It seems

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<v Speaker 2>so tragic that everyone under the sun suffers the same fate.

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<v Speaker 2>That is why people are not more careful to be good. Instead,

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<v Speaker 2>they choose their own mad course, for they have no hope.

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<v Speaker 2>There's nothing ahead but death anyway own, there is hope

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<v Speaker 2>only for the living. As they say, it's better to

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<v Speaker 2>live dog, better, as they say, it's better to be

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<v Speaker 2>a live dog than a dead lion. The living at

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<v Speaker 2>least know they will die, but the dead know nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>They have no further reward, nor are they remembered. Whatever

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<v Speaker 2>they did in their lifetime, loving, hating, and being is

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<v Speaker 2>all long gone. They no longer play a part in

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<v Speaker 2>anything here on earth. So go ahead, eat your food

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<v Speaker 2>with joy, and drink your wine with a happy heart,

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<v Speaker 2>for God approves of this. Wear fine clothes with a

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<v Speaker 2>splash of cologne. Live happily with the woman you love

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<v Speaker 2>through all them meaningless days of life that God has

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<v Speaker 2>given you under the sun. The wife gives the wife

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<v Speaker 2>God gives you is your reward for all your earthly toil.

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever you do, do well, for when you go to

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<v Speaker 2>the grave, there will be no work or planning, or

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<v Speaker 2>knowledge or wisdom. I have observed something else under the sun.

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<v Speaker 2>The fastest runner doesn't always win the race, and the

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<v Speaker 2>strongest warrior doesn't always win the battle. The whys sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>go hungry, and the skillful are not necessarily wealthy, and

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<v Speaker 2>those who are educated don't always lead successful lives. It

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<v Speaker 2>is all decided by chance, by being in the right

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<v Speaker 2>place at the right time. People can never predict when

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<v Speaker 2>hard times might come. Like fish in a net or

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<v Speaker 2>birds in a trap, people are caught by a sudden tragedy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is perhaps the most depressing of the four

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<v Speaker 1>chapters this week, don't.

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<v Speaker 2>You think you think so? I don't know, there's some

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<v Speaker 2>pretty I mean, it's not like he's been super super happy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but he goes into this whole like it almost

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like what he's saying is maybe maybe you shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>even try to be careful for being good, because you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna end up with the same fit anyway, what's the point? Yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't think he's really said that in the

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<v Speaker 1>other four chapters that we've covered, So for me, that

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<v Speaker 1>sounds way more depressing because now when you're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>vanity and you're talking about futility, and you know death

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<v Speaker 1>comes for everybody, well, that's that's one thing. But then

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<v Speaker 1>when you say so, it doesn't matter, Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>whether whether morality good or bad.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think it's interesting because Solomon doesn't seem to

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<v Speaker 2>have in any of his writings. He doesn't seem to

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<v Speaker 2>have a sense of eternity other than God has placed

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<v Speaker 2>eternity in the hearts of men, meaning he understands that

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<v Speaker 2>people desire eternity, but he doesn't seem to have any

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<v Speaker 2>any consequence or any sense of consequence after death. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>And with that perspective, his view is the natural way

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<v Speaker 2>to see things. Right, there's nothing after there's nothing to

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<v Speaker 2>live for after death. Only live for now. But it

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<v Speaker 2>changes for those who understand, Hey, these seventy or eighty

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<v Speaker 2>years are just dress rehearsal for life. So when you

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<v Speaker 2>read this, you're reading you're reading when you read Solomon's

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<v Speaker 2>perspective on you only have one life and then it's over,

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<v Speaker 2>and then nothing else exists afterwards. This is how most

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<v Speaker 2>people live their life. No wonder they make bad choices,

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<v Speaker 2>no wonder they are hopeless. And Paul says, we grieve,

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<v Speaker 2>but not as those who have no hope when we

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<v Speaker 2>think about death right. So when we have the hope

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<v Speaker 2>of eternity. It totally changes our perspective. We're preparing now.

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<v Speaker 2>This is dress rehearsal for eternity. So when you read

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<v Speaker 2>Solomon's writing, Solomon is writing like somebody who has no

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<v Speaker 2>concept of heaven. He has no concept of anything after.

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<v Speaker 2>And so of course he's miserable because I did all

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<v Speaker 2>this work and it didn't matter. I lived and I worked,

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<v Speaker 2>and I planned and I accumulated, and none of it matters.

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<v Speaker 2>And I didn't really do anything good with my life.

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<v Speaker 2>That's kind of how he's feeling. But if you live

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<v Speaker 2>a life preparing for eternity, then you have all the

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<v Speaker 2>benefit of a good life in this life, plus hope

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<v Speaker 2>for a better life in eternity. And so when I

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<v Speaker 2>read it, I just I think it's sad that he

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't have a sense of heaven at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it certainly doesn't seem that way, it doesn't, huh. Yeah. Otherwise,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's no other way to say. How could

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<v Speaker 1>you say that there's no consequences of choosing bad or good? Right,

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<v Speaker 1>if it's not connected to beyond death, then then yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if you get away with it, you get away

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<v Speaker 2>with it. That's kind of what he's saying here, if

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<v Speaker 2>there's nothing after this life, you get away with something,

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<v Speaker 2>you get away with it.

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<v Speaker 1>And hey, so let me be the guy to say

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<v Speaker 1>where they trained him differently than this. So now again,

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't say death ends everything and there's nothing afterwards.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't say that. It's just that that's the way

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<v Speaker 1>way he's writing. Right, So he didn't he didn't say

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't make a definitive statement that says when you die,

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<v Speaker 2>Well, he keeps, he keeps saying things like verse five.

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<v Speaker 2>The living at least know they'll die, but the dead

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<v Speaker 2>kind of thing many times, that kind of implying there's

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't read it that way. I think what I

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<v Speaker 1>it as not necessarily eternity, because I mean, it can

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<v Speaker 1>life part. In other words, like, once you die, then

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<v Speaker 1>after you die. So therefore let's concentrate on the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>conclusions of life. So I wasn't reading it as you know,

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<v Speaker 2>He's just saying, No, he clearly doesn't think there is

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<v Speaker 2>I think he references that probably half dozen times to

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<v Speaker 2>the Book of Ecclesiastes, that after you die you don't

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<v Speaker 2>there's a hopelessness here. That's that's what I'm saying. The

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<v Speaker 2>difference between our listeners who are followers of Jesus who

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<v Speaker 2>We live our life with a totally different perspective than

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<v Speaker 2>no point I'm gonna lose everything, no wonder, He's spiraling

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<v Speaker 2>there's no hope, right, And that's that's the difference between

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<v Speaker 2>Solomon's view and you know, a godly Christian's view. Is

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<v Speaker 2>And I think this is interesting, he said, I've observed

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<v Speaker 2>something else Verse eleven Under the Sun. The fastest runner

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<v Speaker 2>always win the win the battle. The whys sometimes go hungry,

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<v Speaker 2>and the skillful are not necessarily wealthy. Those who are

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<v Speaker 2>by being in the right place at the right time.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, Hey, sometimes in a fight, the weaker fighter

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<v Speaker 2>in the right place the right time. Hey, there's a

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<v Speaker 2>at the right time. There really is. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>make sure you're in the right place around the right people.

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<v Speaker 2>You either are right now or soon shall be. Just

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<v Speaker 2>like the crowd you run with. If you want to

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<v Speaker 2>do a thing or be a thing, you need to get.

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<v Speaker 2>You need one to develop skills that get you around

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<v Speaker 2>Arnold Palmer is famous for saying, the more I practice,

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<v Speaker 2>the luckier I get.

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<v Speaker 1>That's so much right.

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<v Speaker 2>There's something that Thomas Jefferson had a phrase similar to that.

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<v Speaker 2>The more prepared I am, the luckier I get. Samuel Goldwyn,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the famous movie producer, had a saying very similar.

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<v Speaker 2>All three of them have independent sayings, but they're very

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<v Speaker 2>very similar. The more I practice, Arnold Palmer said, the

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to get. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm having a brain fart. The uh I was trying.

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<v Speaker 2>I was trying to think of the as a technical

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I was trying to think of the who's the

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<v Speaker 1>Kinsman Redeemer that we covered bo ass yeah, bo as

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<v Speaker 1>in his fields. Uh. That was that was an example

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<v Speaker 2>She put herself in the right place in the right time,

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<v Speaker 2>and then that gave opportunity. You know, I think that

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<v Speaker 2>there's there's something to that going to the right schools,

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<v Speaker 2>being around the right people when you want an opportunity

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<v Speaker 2>to get in front of Probably one of the greatest

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<v Speaker 2>moments of my life to discover this principle. I was

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<v Speaker 2>how's a poor kid go through school? Right? Got work?

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<v Speaker 2>So I was working forty plus hours a week, and

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<v Speaker 2>a great company. I really loved the company. My boss

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<v Speaker 2>So I called in two days, called off, and I

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<v Speaker 2>I thought, you know what if you're going to work

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<v Speaker 2>So I decided I was going to go every hotel, Intercontinental, Marriott, Highatt,

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<v Speaker 2>I was in because they had these little timeslots when

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<v Speaker 2>of mine. We're both wearing suits. There's probably fifty people

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<v Speaker 2>for the best manager in this building to try to

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<v Speaker 2>I put myself in front of that manager. Clearly he

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<v Speaker 2>I made all kinds of money. I learned a ton

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<v Speaker 2>He might have blown me off, but dude, that was

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<v Speaker 2>went there's nobody in here. I want to hire everybody,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, and you know, almost house coats and slippers,

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<v Speaker 2>everybody in the room. And then there's two guys sitting

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<v Speaker 2>he said, are you guys roommates? I said yeah, he said,

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<v Speaker 2>And so there is something to that. It's not always

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<v Speaker 2>the fastest, it's not always the strongest, but it is

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<v Speaker 2>But it's not always chance, right, you can kind of

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, he just throws this thing at the

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<v Speaker 1>end of the chapter of the sentence that says people

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<v Speaker 1>can never predict when hard times might come, like a

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<v Speaker 1>people are caught by sudden tragedy. Holy cow, is that

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<v Speaker 1>a statement or what?

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<v Speaker 1>Right, I mean, there's really nothing to say about that.

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<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to point.

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<v Speaker 2>It out, like sometimes bad things happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes bad things happened. Yeah, and he's talking. It's really

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<v Speaker 1>a continuation of this thought about you know, chance just

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<v Speaker 1>that's interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's okay, yep. Right. We live in a broken world.

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<v Speaker 2>We forget, even as Christians, we forget that this world

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<v Speaker 2>Sin has affected every single aspect of our lives every day,

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<v Speaker 2>and we just don't we forget that. So then as

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<v Speaker 2>we honor God and we go his path, we have

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<v Speaker 2>his favor, But we still live in a very broken world.

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<v Speaker 2>So car accidents happen. That's not that God made it happen,

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<v Speaker 2>as somebody who just ran a red light they weren't paying,

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<v Speaker 2>some drunk did too much. Bad people do bad things sometimes,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean. And sometimes even the righteous

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<v Speaker 2>get caught up in those things. Not because God's trying

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<v Speaker 2>Bad things happen sometimes, and so we are shocked and

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<v Speaker 2>have a sudden thing happened to us, right. Instead, we

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<v Speaker 2>to live is for Christ, and to die is gain.

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<v Speaker 2>just came to a conclusion, the Devil's not going to

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<v Speaker 2>threaten me with Evan right, I'm not gonna be miserable,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna be terrified. If I live great, if

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<v Speaker 2>I go to Heaven even greater, that's okay. And if

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<v Speaker 2>you can live with that, with that perspective that to

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<v Speaker 2>live is Christ and to die is gain. Then these

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<v Speaker 2>sudden tragedies, these sudden things that aren't manageable by us.

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<v Speaker 2>It turns out we're not in control anyways. Control is

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<v Speaker 2>an illusion and things happen. But that's okay. God's in control.

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<v Speaker 2>And if I'm here on earth, wonderful, He's got a

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<v Speaker 2>plan for me here. If he decides, okay, you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to intervene in that moment, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>how you're going to go to heaven, then we're in

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<v Speaker 2>heaven for e turnity, and then to die is gain.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, you sort of hinted that you know

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<v Speaker 1>why bad things happen, you know, just it's not always God.

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<v Speaker 1>We live in a broken world. You and I just

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<v Speaker 1>recently had several conversations with people who responded so well

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<v Speaker 1>to that idea at a funeral that I did recently,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, Romans eight says we're under the bondage

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<v Speaker 1>of decay. He calls it the curse of this world.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know the idea that you know, people lay

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<v Speaker 1>at the feet of God sometimes because God is all powerful,

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<v Speaker 1>and God is able to do whatever God wants to do,

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<v Speaker 1>and so therefore we assume and presume upon him that

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<v Speaker 1>he should and can't or doesn't do what is always

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<v Speaker 1>the best choice, and so and so. Anyway, the idea

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<v Speaker 1>that people would just say, oh, some bad tragedy happen,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I've heard people actually say, well, God must

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<v Speaker 1>have wanted it that way, And I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

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<v Speaker 1>What about all the verses that talk about how bad

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<v Speaker 1>things happen and how we're living a broken world and

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<v Speaker 1>it's messed up, and you know, there's death and disease,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's cancer, and there's weeds and there's death, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>all these different things, and you know that came with

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<v Speaker 1>the curse of the fall. And yet sometimes what people

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<v Speaker 1>do is they lay at the feet of God that

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<v Speaker 1>which should never be laid at the feet of God.

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<v Speaker 1>This was God's will, This was God's intention. Its like, whoa, whoa, whoa,

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<v Speaker 1>Back up, buddy, you know you know God's intention is

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<v Speaker 1>paradise again, right, you know there was paradise. God gave

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<v Speaker 1>man free will. Why did God give man free will?

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<v Speaker 1>Because true love cannot exist without free will, and God

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<v Speaker 1>created us for true love. Response man chose to go

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<v Speaker 1>his and her own way. We live under the bondage

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<v Speaker 1>of sin. And one day Jesus will come and he

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<v Speaker 1>will do away with all evil. He will conquer evil,

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<v Speaker 1>he will do away with it.

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<v Speaker 2>He will wipe every tear from our eye. And there

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<v Speaker 2>will be no more death. Yes, there'll be no more disease. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>there will be no more violence or hatred or right.

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<v Speaker 2>And he says, and I'll be your God right, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'll make everything new, right right.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's that's God's intentions. You want to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>God's will when it comes to evil, that's God's will.

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<v Speaker 2>And in the meantime, we live in this curse that

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<v Speaker 2>we created.

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<v Speaker 1>Right and that one verse you know you're so right,

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<v Speaker 1>and that it doesn't read well. Solomon says, whatever you do,

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<v Speaker 1>do well, for when you go to the grave, there

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<v Speaker 1>will be no work or planning or knowledge or wisdom.

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<v Speaker 1>And again I read that meaning like, hey, take advantage

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<v Speaker 1>of this life, because death ends this life. Right. But

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<v Speaker 1>when you read it, like, whoa, what is he trying

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<v Speaker 1>to say after eternity? When you read it that way,

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<v Speaker 1>it's horrible.

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<v Speaker 2>He's despondent. Yeah, there's no hope in the way that

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<v Speaker 2>he views it because he doesn't see eternity.

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<v Speaker 1>Because which, by the way, we will have purpose and work.

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<v Speaker 1>And after eternity.

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<v Speaker 2>Undreds we're going back to God's original plan for the garden.

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<v Speaker 1>Right right, and so and so if you think you're

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<v Speaker 1>getting out of work, uh, you know, people actually think, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna sit on a cloud all day and

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<v Speaker 1>play a harp and have nothing to do.

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<v Speaker 2>No not no boring.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds really boring.

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<v Speaker 2>Might be nice for a few weeks, but a billion

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<v Speaker 2>years in it's going to be pretty rough, right right right,

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<v Speaker 2>God has there's purpose in eternity.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, all right, Well, hey listen, that is our

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<v Speaker 1>time and so hopefully we will see you tomorrow on

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<v Speaker 1>the Bible guys.

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<v Speaker 2>H