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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to the Bible Guys, a podcast where a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun in

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<v Speaker 1>practical ways. Hey everybody, good morning and welcome to the

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<v Speaker 1>Bible Goods.

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<v Speaker 2>Good morning.

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<v Speaker 1>We are here in the middle of a series about

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<v Speaker 1>God's promises. This week's theme is eternal life through Jesus Christ,

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<v Speaker 1>our Lord.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go.

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<v Speaker 1>That made it sound like a you know, hey, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>But before we dive into that, Desiree has written a

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<v Speaker 1>very interesting uh topic drop is what she's calling the

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<v Speaker 1>segment and the way she wrote it as hilarious. So

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<v Speaker 1>this is what she said. She said, today's theme is

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<v Speaker 1>the gift of God is eternal life, and Christmas is

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<v Speaker 1>fast approaching, so let's talk about some of the favorite

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<v Speaker 1>gifts you've ever received.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>So she's comparing the gift of eternal life to my

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<v Speaker 1>Sony Walkman in the eighth grade Christmas.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, you first pair of Jordan's because those

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<v Speaker 3>are close, almost almost the almost the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So, I I said, right before we hit record

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<v Speaker 1>on the on the podcast, I said, uh, she has

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<v Speaker 1>done a terrible transition, remember, you know, because I'm referencing

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<v Speaker 1>our terrible transitions. Hey, you know what else is a gift?

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<v Speaker 1>You Sony Walkman in internal life, so uh yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>I referenced my Sony Walkman because I think, actually that

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<v Speaker 1>was one of the best guests I.

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<v Speaker 2>Ever received, favorite gift you've ever received.

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<v Speaker 1>When I got my Sony Walkman in the eighth grade.

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<v Speaker 1>It was cutting technology because I had auto reverse.

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<v Speaker 2>Oo, automatically go back.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, you don't have to take Yeah, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to flip there.

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<v Speaker 3>You just hit a button and it and it just

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<v Speaker 3>plays tape in the direction.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know because every cassette tape boys and girls

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<v Speaker 1>used to have one side and then the other side

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<v Speaker 1>side b uh and and basically you had to find,

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<v Speaker 1>uh you know which song, Hey, I'm in the mood

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<v Speaker 1>for a song number four. Then you have to take

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<v Speaker 1>the tape out, flip it over, figure out where you were,

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<v Speaker 1>and either rewind it or fast forward through the other songs.

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<v Speaker 1>And which, by the way, was actually mind blowing technology

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<v Speaker 1>compared to the A Trax. Sure A Trex used to

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<v Speaker 1>play in a loop and it was and it was

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<v Speaker 1>like and so it was like if you're in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of like song one, you could hit a button

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<v Speaker 1>to song two. It'd also be in the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>song too, and there was no way to rewind it, right,

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<v Speaker 1>There was only a way to just play. And then

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<v Speaker 1>you literally had to listen through a song in order

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<v Speaker 1>to be lined up with the next song. That's correct,

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<v Speaker 1>and an if that song was longer, I mean you

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<v Speaker 1>were messed right, You're like, I missed the intro.

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<v Speaker 2>So the best thing you ever got, the best gift

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<v Speaker 2>you ever got, are you saying? Was your sony Walkman

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<v Speaker 2>with auto reverse.

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<v Speaker 1>I think at the time it impacted.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that the one that was the most exciting, Well because.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody had it, oh yeah, and I and I had

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<v Speaker 1>And it was also a brand name, and I was

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<v Speaker 1>a person who didn't have brand name anything. So I

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<v Speaker 1>believe it or not, it was actually quite the gift.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a big deal. Then you're you're at school

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<v Speaker 2>going wash this and it comes at the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the last song on Horiday, and then you're.

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<v Speaker 1>Or in the middle of the song, right the middle

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<v Speaker 1>the song. You just hit it and it just FLIPSI yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, but yeah, I was sort of the talk

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<v Speaker 1>of the town.

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<v Speaker 2>Youngstown hero.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Everybody was like everybody's like, did you see Jarbas

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<v Speaker 1>watching him jealous, What do you steal that from? I

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<v Speaker 1>wish I still had it because those things would be

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<v Speaker 1>actually worth a little bit of money.

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<v Speaker 2>That's awesome, Yeah, super great. So that was probably your

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<v Speaker 2>best one. I think I have a couple. When I

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<v Speaker 2>graduated from college, my uncle gave me a mont Blanc

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<v Speaker 2>Meister Struck pen, and for whatever reason, I've always just

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<v Speaker 2>liked mount Blanc the It's a Swiss watch company that

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<v Speaker 2>also makes high end pens and other accessories. I just

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<v Speaker 2>loved it, and he gave it to me, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was crazy expensive. I still have it, so here I

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<v Speaker 2>am twenty thirty years later and I still have that ben.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was neat. And then I think maybe the

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<v Speaker 2>most surprising gift for me. I'm not a I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not a magnet for gifts like people aren't, like, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff's gonna love this. So I was hunting, and I've

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<v Speaker 2>told this on this show before, but I was hunting

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<v Speaker 2>and I was going through a really, really really difficult

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<v Speaker 2>time and I lost the place that I liked to

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<v Speaker 2>hunt at. And a guy at our church came and said, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you're looking for a place to hunt.

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<v Speaker 2>You can hunt my farm. I said, yes, I just

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<v Speaker 2>lost my place and I was afraid. And when I

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<v Speaker 2>showed up, he said, hey, come over my truck, and

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<v Speaker 2>he had a gun case and he wanted to give

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<v Speaker 2>me this nice it's a black powder muzzleloader gun. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>black powder like those old flint lock guns. Yeah, yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>it's kind of like that. It uses black powder, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's nice. It was a nice one. And on the

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<v Speaker 2>case he wrote Matthew six thirty three, which is seek

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<v Speaker 2>first the Kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all

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<v Speaker 2>these other things will be added to you. And that

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<v Speaker 2>was such a bad time in ministry. I was just

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<v Speaker 2>getting beat up so bad, and I was starting to doubt, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm making the right decision. And then you know, he

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<v Speaker 2>gave me that. It also said was Matthew six thirty

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<v Speaker 2>three on the on the cover of that that gun case,

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<v Speaker 2>and that was I think it just felt so nice

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<v Speaker 2>because it was on He'd already done me a favor,

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<v Speaker 2>let me on his property. Then they give me that

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<v Speaker 2>gun was a big thing. So yeah, those two I

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<v Speaker 2>think are the two biggest ones for me. Third, I

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<v Speaker 2>would say is when my mom gave me a land

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<v Speaker 2>Speeder and an X wing Fighter the same Christmas. Whoa

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<v Speaker 2>land Speeders were bad time, big time, big time, but.

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<v Speaker 1>X wings were even more expensive.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know, and I got them both for Christmas

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<v Speaker 2>the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember my I got a land like nineteen seventy nine,

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighty, yeah, something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember I got a land Speeder, so I

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<v Speaker 1>had one of those. I also had an X wing Fighter.

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<v Speaker 1>But my friend Rich Frondorf, uh, he actually got an

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<v Speaker 1>eight eighty Walker.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, back back in like nineteen seventy nine, those were

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<v Speaker 1>ninety dollars wow, which by the way, would be today like.

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<v Speaker 2>Two hundred fifty bucks, three hundred buck even more.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably yeah, yeah, yeah right. So you know, I wonder

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<v Speaker 1>if I wonder, if they could answer this, how much

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<v Speaker 1>would ninety dollars be today from nineteen seventy nine. I

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<v Speaker 1>wonder if che chip is going to do it. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, it says working with chet Cheap is trying to.

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<v Speaker 2>Work it out.

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<v Speaker 1>Adjusting for inflation, ninety dollars in nineteen seventy nine is

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<v Speaker 1>approximately equivalent to three hundred and ninety five dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I was close.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so a four hundred dollars Christmas present. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 2>pretty good even for today.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think so too.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you know anybody who had the death Star?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I had a friend who had a death Star.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's pretty big too.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'd bring over my land Speeder, my ex wing Fighter.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah yeah, and he my yeah yeah, well you

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<v Speaker 1>can use the X wing Fighter at you know, at it,

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<v Speaker 1>not the land Speeder.

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<v Speaker 1>Land Speeder was just tattooing.

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<v Speaker 2>So a few years ago I mentioned that on this

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<v Speaker 2>podcast or in a church service something I can't remember.

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<v Speaker 2>My mom was watching, and so she bought me all

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<v Speaker 2>three because I also had a tie Fighter. She bought

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<v Speaker 2>me miniatures of all three. They sit at my desk.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh really, she said, hey fine, because I said, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't even have me more, I'd love to have them again,

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<v Speaker 2>and so she bought all three of them for me

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<v Speaker 2>for Christmas. Call you know that.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw something on Instagram. Sorry, we'll move on, but

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<v Speaker 1>I saw something on Instagram just two nights ago that

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<v Speaker 1>said that if you have the original Star Wars action

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<v Speaker 1>figures in their packets, like you know, unopened from nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>seventy whatever it is like Luke, Skywalker, Yoda of the Classics,

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<v Speaker 1>Han Solo, Chewbacca, all those kinds of things. If you

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<v Speaker 1>have them, they're worth one hundred and fifty thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 1>each unopened.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, oh, man, and man.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you imagine?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, can you imagine your parents giving you? Okay, Chrissy,

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<v Speaker 2>here's what I'm going to give you this, but don't

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<v Speaker 2>open it because one day you're gonna thank me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, I mean you have ten of them, you

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<v Speaker 1>can retire.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, if you have ten of them, if you

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<v Speaker 1>have a set of those, you could retire. Yes, that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the best gift ever. Almost as good, almost as

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<v Speaker 2>the gifts we're talking about today.

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<v Speaker 1>Right yeah, thanks, thanks Desirabia, making those comparisons terrible.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So we are talking about the gift of God

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<v Speaker 2>is eternal life. And one of my favorite verses on

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<v Speaker 2>this I quote it just about every time I share

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<v Speaker 2>the Gospel YEP is Rome's chapter six, verse twenty three.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's the last verse in the chapter. I want

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<v Speaker 2>to start at the first verse in the chapter says,

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<v Speaker 2>well then should we keep on sinning? So he's been

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<v Speaker 2>talking about God's grace is so good that God's grace

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<v Speaker 2>overcomes our sin. Yes, right, so he says, well, then

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<v Speaker 2>should we keep on sinning so that God can show

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<v Speaker 2>us more and more of his wonderful grace. Of course not,

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<v Speaker 2>King James says, God forbid, God forbid. Since we have

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<v Speaker 2>died to sin, how can we continue to live in it?

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<v Speaker 2>Or have you forgotten that when you were joined with

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<v Speaker 2>Christ and baptism, we joined him in his death. For

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<v Speaker 2>we died and were buried with Christ by baptism. And

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<v Speaker 2>just as Christ was raised from the dead by the

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<v Speaker 2>glorious power of the Father, now we also may live

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<v Speaker 2>new lives. Since we've been united with Him and his death,

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<v Speaker 2>we will also be raised to life as he was.

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<v Speaker 2>We know that our old sinful lives were crucified with

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<v Speaker 2>Christ so that sin might lose its power in our lives.

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<v Speaker 2>We are no longer slaves to sin, for when we

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<v Speaker 2>died with Christ, we were set free from the power

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<v Speaker 2>the power of sin. But now that he lives, he

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<v Speaker 2>consider yourselves to be dead to the power of sin

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<v Speaker 2>and alive through Christ Jesus. Do not let sin control

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<v Speaker 2>under the freedom of God's grace. Well, then, since God's

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<v Speaker 2>once again God forbid forbid? Don't you realize that you

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<v Speaker 2>or you can choose to obey God, which leads to

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<v Speaker 2>righteous living. Thank God. Once you were once you were

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<v Speaker 2>because of the weakness of your human nature. I'm using

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<v Speaker 2>the illustration of slavery to help you understand all this. Previously,

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<v Speaker 2>now you are free from the power of sin and

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<v Speaker 1>for a little while, they perhaps maybe even a ten

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<v Speaker 1>heritage church, and maybe they've never read Romans six all

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<v Speaker 1>the way through. And sometimes you know, when you hear

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<v Speaker 1>it's sort of like John three sixteen, Right, You're like,

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<v Speaker 1>a private conversation at night. You'd think that verse would

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<v Speaker 1>be from the rooftops, right, But when you hear something

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<v Speaker 1>like this, the context is actually like, oh wow, that

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<v Speaker 1>actually gives even more insight to that truth. Right, And

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<v Speaker 1>Roman and Bill goes, what did I say? That was funny?

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<v Speaker 1>and all the collegents. But anyway, but in six seven,

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<v Speaker 1>six and seven, he actually talks about this. He talks

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<v Speaker 1>state now that we're saved. Uh, you know, we're in heaven,

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<v Speaker 1>but but but but grace still abounds, right, so so

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<v Speaker 1>yet you know, all the sins that we commit now

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<v Speaker 1>we know that Christ died for all of them, right,

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<v Speaker 1>That's what Paul was saying. Paula is saying Christ died

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<v Speaker 1>that all of my sins are going to be forgiven

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm going to go to heaven, does my behavior

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<v Speaker 1>even matter? Because after all, I used to believe that

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<v Speaker 1>I had to do my best to obey the law,

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<v Speaker 1>right laws and sacrifices. But now what you're saying is

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<v Speaker 1>you're saying that Christ died for all sins. So therefore,

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<v Speaker 1>why can't I just live my life sinning and do

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<v Speaker 1>it and what I want? Because I know that no

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<v Speaker 1>matter what, I'm going to go to heaven because Christ.

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<v Speaker 1>You're telling me that Christ died for all of my sins.

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<v Speaker 1>And so this is the issue I think that Paul

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<v Speaker 2>He pushes back against it. In Galatians. He pushes back

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<v Speaker 2>was this belief, and it's partly it's kind of a

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<v Speaker 2>leftover hedonism from the Greek mentality. So Paul's writing out

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<v Speaker 2>to Romans who adopted a lot of the Greek culture,

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<v Speaker 2>Greek ideas anyways, with regard to lifestyle. And so there

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<v Speaker 2>were these two ideas. One, your body is so evil

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<v Speaker 2>and wicked you have to oppress it and beat it down,

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<v Speaker 2>and everything about you, every even the appetite to eat

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<v Speaker 2>they had one side. The other side was so hedonistic

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<v Speaker 2>in the way that they viewed it that they were like, well, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>this body's just gonna die someday, so just go buck

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<v Speaker 2>wild because this body's gonna stop. And then when you

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<v Speaker 2>get to have it, everything will be better. Right. And

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<v Speaker 2>so he's kind of pushing back against both of those ideas,

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<v Speaker 2>and he does it almost all of his writings. Most

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<v Speaker 2>So he's also talking here that on the one side,

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<v Speaker 2>If God delights in forgiving, let's just give him a

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<v Speaker 2>lot to forgive, right, and because I just do whatever

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of sin in that's what they're doing most of

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<v Speaker 2>the time. What people think is I want to do it,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm going to do it. And they don't even

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<v Speaker 2>does God say about it? They're not They're not thinking

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<v Speaker 2>about anything else. They're just thinking, I'm gonna do it

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<v Speaker 2>that is your mentality, you're a slave to your own flesh.

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<v Speaker 2>He said, But when you start thinking what would God

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<v Speaker 2>God did for me, I'm a slave to God. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>That that's he said. Whatever you're focusing on, that's what

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<v Speaker 2>But he does say, don't let sin control the way

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<v Speaker 2>you live. He doesn't say God won't let sin control

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<v Speaker 2>the way you live. Right, He says you need to

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<v Speaker 2>choose it. And he said, so on one side, grace

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<v Speaker 2>is enough. On the other side, quit making really bad choices, dummy, right,

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<v Speaker 2>He kind of has both sides. Here he says, don't

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<v Speaker 2>let sinc don't give into sinful desires, don't let any

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<v Speaker 2>part of your body, any part of your body become

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<v Speaker 2>an instrument of evil to sin. Instead, give yourselves completely

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<v Speaker 2>to God. And so he's always offering this alternative that

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<v Speaker 2>there's God's part. He delights in forgiving, he delights in

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<v Speaker 2>extending his grace. But dude, if you're grateful for what

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<v Speaker 2>keep on sinning. Instead, go ahead and fight that battle.

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<v Speaker 1>I did like a seven week series called License to Sin,

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<v Speaker 1>for this theme. But it was but basically this one

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<v Speaker 1>if if we should if we're saved by grace, then

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<v Speaker 1>should we continue to sin and let grace abound? God forbid?

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<v Speaker 1>It was based off of that. And I love how

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<v Speaker 1>Paul attaches baptism as a symbolism and he says, you

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<v Speaker 1>were joined with Christ and baptism. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>that that is commonly misunderstood about you know, salvation being

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<v Speaker 1>But that's not what he's said because because baptism, he's

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<v Speaker 1>actually saying baptism is a symbol of the death, beryl

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<v Speaker 1>and resurrection of Christ. So he's actually pointing to the death,

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<v Speaker 1>barrel and resurrection of Christ as our salvation. Right. He says,

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<v Speaker 1>you were joined with Christ, join with Christ and baptism.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, the operative word with that is

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<v Speaker 1>joined with Christ. So we're joined with Christ in salvation.

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<v Speaker 1>But the symbol of symbolism of baptism is he says,

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<v Speaker 1>just as Christ went under the earth, don't you know

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<v Speaker 1>that we too have died to our old selves. And

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<v Speaker 1>what he's doing is he's connecting a spiritual truth and

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<v Speaker 1>he's saying, listen, there's something happening spiritually in you that

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<v Speaker 1>you have to remember, which is this. You're no longer

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<v Speaker 1>Your old self has been buried with Christ on the cross.

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<v Speaker 1>And just as Christ in his you know humanity, you

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<v Speaker 1>and he took upon himself sin Jesus literally became sin,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he died, and then he rose to life,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, and he conquered sin, He conquered death, and

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<v Speaker 1>he walked in a brand new life. You know, what

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<v Speaker 1>do you tell Mary, don't touch me, for I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>I have yet, I have yet to have sin. To

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<v Speaker 1>my father, Jesus conquered death. He left sin in the grave.

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<v Speaker 1>And what Paul is saying is is he's saying, and

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<v Speaker 1>he talks about in Corinthians as well, but he's really

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<v Speaker 1>encouraging people and saying, connect yourself to a spiritual truth.

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<v Speaker 1>Your old self has died and you no longer have

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<v Speaker 1>to be a slave to sin because you have the

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<v Speaker 1>which overcomes sin. It gives us the power to conquer sin.

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<v Speaker 2>As he writes, he's always writing through a lot of Romans.

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<v Speaker 2>He's about back, then, now, and someday, and he flips

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<v Speaker 2>of sin has been broken for you, and someday you'll

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<v Speaker 2>be completely free from it. Yeah, but back then you

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<v Speaker 2>were completely consumed by it. Right now, stop trying, right, stop,

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<v Speaker 2>And he's talking all three at the same time. And

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<v Speaker 2>what we want is we want it all solved. Now

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<v Speaker 2>it has been in God's mind solved. When we get

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<v Speaker 2>to eternity, we will never sin again. Today, I still

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<v Speaker 2>walk around in this body. This body has to die

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<v Speaker 2>before sin stops in me, right, And yet he forgave

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<v Speaker 2>me so he sees me as sinless, even though sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>I'm tempted to sin. But I'm no longer a slave

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<v Speaker 2>like I used to be. Now I can be free.

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<v Speaker 2>seven years or whatever, if they if they loved living

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<v Speaker 2>in that household, they could go and make themselves an

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<v Speaker 2>indentured servant. They would punch, puncture the ear, put a

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<v Speaker 2>hoop through the ear, announcing now I'm choosing to stay

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<v Speaker 2>in this house, right, and they can stay. And if

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<v Speaker 2>the and then now I'm going to be a servant

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<v Speaker 2>in the home. So we've been set free. The wages

428
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<v Speaker 2>of sin is death, but the free gift of God

429
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<v Speaker 2>is eternal life through Jesus Christ the Lord. And yet

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes we just like, yeah, but I'd like to go

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<v Speaker 2>put the shackles back on right, and we give ourselves

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<v Speaker 2>back over. And so we have to fight that part

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<v Speaker 2>of it. And that's why right in the middle, it's

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<v Speaker 2>so don't you've been raided. You've already been made right

435
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<v Speaker 2>in God's sight through the blood of Jesus. So now

436
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<v Speaker 2>don't give your bodies over to the bad sin. The

437
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<v Speaker 2>shackles are broken, why are you putting them back on rights?

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<v Speaker 2>That's what he's talking about. So back then in the future,

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<v Speaker 2>but right now, just make these decis. Don't give your

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<v Speaker 2>body over. And I was talking to some of our

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<v Speaker 2>young adults a couple days ago, and we were talking

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<v Speaker 2>about this idea. And I had a roommate in college

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<v Speaker 2>who was working about forty five hours a week, he

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<v Speaker 2>was taking like fifteen credit hours, and he was only

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<v Speaker 2>sleeping like five hours a night, and so he was

446
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<v Speaker 2>just a zombie. Right. He'd stand up in every class

447
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<v Speaker 2>all these things but he was my roommate, and he

448
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<v Speaker 2>could sleep so soundly. We could pick him up on

449
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<v Speaker 2>his mattress and multiple times we did it, carry him

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<v Speaker 2>through the hallway and just put him on a snowbank

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<v Speaker 2>out in the snow, and he'd wake up like forty

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<v Speaker 2>minutes later. Really yeah, yeah, oh yeah, yeah. Well he

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<v Speaker 2>just never feel it. He just slept so soundly. So

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<v Speaker 2>he set three alarm clocks because he kept he flunked

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<v Speaker 2>out of a whole class wow, because he couldn't wake

456
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<v Speaker 2>up and we couldn't wake him up. So he'd set

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<v Speaker 2>three very loud alarm clocks. He set one rate above

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<v Speaker 2>on a little shelf right behind his head that would

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<v Speaker 2>startl him. He set one up underneath his dresser and

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<v Speaker 2>that was very loud, and then one over on his desk. Cussrooms.

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<v Speaker 2>She had to get up and move to get him

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<v Speaker 2>turned off, and it was usually by the third one

463
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<v Speaker 2>that finally stumbling along like around like a zombie, brushes

464
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<v Speaker 2>teeth and good class. But he was he was so

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<v Speaker 2>convicted about the fact that his flesh was willing it

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<v Speaker 2>was was weak that he said, I'm going to set

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<v Speaker 2>up every possible solution to overcome this, right, this thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that that's what Paul's trying to say

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<v Speaker 2>is don't don't give yourbody over. And so, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>for you and me, people used to preach personal standards

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<v Speaker 2>as if they were gospel, like you're a horrible sinner

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<v Speaker 2>if you don't have the same kind of standard I have. Right, well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, I only needed one alarm clock. I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't need three. I didn't need his set of rules

475
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<v Speaker 2>to help me get up. But he had some pretty

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<v Speaker 2>big rules in his life in order to make sure

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<v Speaker 2>and sure that he never flunked out of another class again.

478
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<v Speaker 2>He got up. And so for some if you're deciding, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to fight this physical spiritual battle in me

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<v Speaker 2>right now, and I have a certain temptation. Alcohol's a

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<v Speaker 2>temptation for me, well, then don't drink any and don't

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<v Speaker 2>go anywhere there where there is any alcohol. But I

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<v Speaker 2>don't have to be mad at you if you have

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<v Speaker 2>a cold one on a Friday night, right right, there's

485
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<v Speaker 2>a new because that's not that that's my standard to

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<v Speaker 2>help me not give into the flesh. Now, now, if

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<v Speaker 2>I also know you're struggling, I might say, hey, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>here's what I'm doing maybe you should be teetotal to too,

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<v Speaker 2>or if lying is an issue, you just need to say,

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<v Speaker 2>you need to decide you're going to go ahead and

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<v Speaker 2>embarrass yourself by saying, actually, technically that's not true, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and immediately, as soon as all history tells you, speak

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<v Speaker 2>up and say that if stealing stuff is a temptation,

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<v Speaker 2>or if you know, having an affair as a temptation,

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<v Speaker 2>get away from those things and build a wall so

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<v Speaker 2>high you can't get over it, protect yourself from it.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what Paul's trying to say is it's already

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<v Speaker 2>been forgiven. You've been cleansed by the blood of Christ.

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<v Speaker 2>You are perfect in God's sight in the future. But listen,

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<v Speaker 2>the price for sin is death. The free gift of

501
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<v Speaker 2>God is eternal life through Jesus Christ. The alert you

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<v Speaker 2>have a choice.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, just as a fun little side note,

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<v Speaker 1>because we're almost out of time, I've I think I've

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<v Speaker 1>made this statement publicly maybe a hundred times. But I

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<v Speaker 1>come from a family who so much divorce right right right,

509
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<v Speaker 1>like mom and dad, uncles, brothers, I mean, just multiple divorces, affairs,

510
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<v Speaker 1>everything else, and so one of the things that I've

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<v Speaker 1>just you know, decided on a long long time ago.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, hey, if my marriage ends, it's not going

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<v Speaker 1>to end that way, right, Like I may mess it

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<v Speaker 1>up another way.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, right, murder, murder, yeah, but not divorce.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not affairs. Not affairs.

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<v Speaker 2>And so it's like Liz, if Liz ever disappears, we

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<v Speaker 2>know I haven't no, no, no, no no.

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<v Speaker 1>What I meant was what I meant was it's not

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<v Speaker 1>going to be from an affair.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>So what I'm saying is what I'm saying is so

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<v Speaker 1>a long long time ago. I just decided, like in

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<v Speaker 1>my early twenties, if I find anybody attractive, these are

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<v Speaker 1>the walls, right, nothing that it's a temptation for me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not. In fact, it's sort of the opposite. But

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<v Speaker 1>if I ever find somebody attractive, I would just tell people.

528
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<v Speaker 1>Isn't that funny? And so I would literally just say, like,

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm working with somebody and I find somebody attractive,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I have to tell somebody. I just I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want that to be something that I think and

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<v Speaker 1>that nobody else knows. And so I'll literally tell this.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be like, hey, I just want to let you

534
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<v Speaker 1>know I find her attractive, and and she's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>and that can that could backfire? Right, But but then

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<v Speaker 1>then I started later on in life, then I started

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<v Speaker 1>telling like our good friend sonya Maletta, right, who's who

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<v Speaker 1>is my who's my campus director? Uh? In the context

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<v Speaker 1>of like, you know, being a leader at a church.

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<v Speaker 1>She was my campus director. And I just say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to let you know, just so that

542
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<v Speaker 1>somebody knows I just find her attractive. And she goes, really,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, I'll have her killed. I will have her

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<v Speaker 1>I will have her fired today, you know. But but

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<v Speaker 1>but but it's exactly what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like it's built I don't even want to come close, right,

547
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<v Speaker 3>It's that it's that fifth alarm clock, right, It's like

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<v Speaker 3>I just want to make sure that somebody knows, right,

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<v Speaker 3>just so that I could never ever have that be a.

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<v Speaker 2>For so building personal standards in your life is like

551
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<v Speaker 2>putting guardrails on the cliff edge for you. Yeah, right,

552
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<v Speaker 2>you know where that's at. And then stay away from

553
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<v Speaker 2>the guardrails, don't scratch up your car, stay as far

554
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<v Speaker 2>away as you can, and the whole idea is don't

555
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<v Speaker 2>go over the don't go over the edge. And this

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<v Speaker 2>is I think that he says, don't let sin control

557
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<v Speaker 2>your lives, don't give into sinful desires, don't let any

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<v Speaker 2>party body become an instrument. He's kind of really driving

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<v Speaker 2>this home that there is a decision involved. You can

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<v Speaker 2>choose you're no longer a slave to sin, but you

561
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<v Speaker 2>can still choose to put the shackles back on. So

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<v Speaker 2>just don't don't do it, and your life is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be way better. And then he said, because you

564
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<v Speaker 2>used to be you're shamed of the things you used

565
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<v Speaker 2>to do. And the way that you know that you're

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<v Speaker 2>a shamed is because you don't want to tell anybody. Yeah, right,

567
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<v Speaker 2>you want to keep it a secret. And he goes,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't have to live a life full of shame anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>The wages of sin is death. You're free to make

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<v Speaker 2>your choices, but just understand the ransom for that is

571
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<v Speaker 2>death' that's the price for you choosing to keep going

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<v Speaker 2>in that direction. But the free gift of God as

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<v Speaker 2>he turned a life through Jesus Christ the Lord, and

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<v Speaker 2>just take the free gift.

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<v Speaker 1>That's awesome. Well that's our time, So hopefully we'll see tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the Baba Gus