The convoluted history / retconning of Nick Fury comes up in our discussion. In the Marvel comics, he started out as a WWII hero. Later stories about him took place in modern times, the idea being that he’d ingested a chemical that kept him (and his supporting cast) from aging. In the movies, they don’t want to have multiple characters who have been around since WWII and also since they cast a black actor as Fury, they can’t have him leading a platoon in WWII since the army wasn’t desegregated until after the war. Instead they just avoid it entirely and use Dum-Dum Dugan.
Megaforce (1982) is a fantastic movie that Phil saw in the theatre as a kid. An older kid probably took him to see it, because it’s hard to imagine his parents being interested in it but he was only six when it came out. It’s kind of a GI Joe-adjacent story about super-commandos in spandex pants. In the climactic scene, the hero has to fly his motorcycle into a transport plane. In this episode, Jake claims that the motorcycle was fueled by chicken shit, but he was confusing Megaforce with Warlords of the Twenty-First Century which came out the same year.
We muse a bit about Oreo stuf. Phil’s son recently told him about the Most Stuf Oreos, which would maybe go higher than Double Stuf Oreos on the List of Everything just in the name of absurdity. Here’s a recipe to make your own stuf at home. You’ll just have to go through this person’s dissertation about life to get to it.
Whale Tail is a 2005 pornographic movie where all the women have thong underwear visible (prior to getting undressed presumably). Scott Nails is not only a porn actor, he’s also a voting activist. Here’s his twitter.
When Phil said dolphins do things he doesn’t like, he’s referring to them being sexually aggressive with humans and each other. He knows that we can’t judge dolphins by human rules but people are out here saying they’re smarter than us. You can read about cetacean intelligence here.
About five years ago Jake and Phil went on a backpacking trek with some friends along the Lost Coast and camped near a giant, rotting whale carcass (with tail attached).
Jake read the unabridged version of Moby-Dick, not the shorter version where they don’t spend whole chapters describing different types of whales.
We discuss the eating of whale meat. In Japan, whale meat was used as a food source nationwide for the first time after the war. In the 50s they passed a law that school lunches should contain whale meat and the law was in effect through the 1980s.