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You're listening to The Bible Guys,
a podcast where a couple of friends talk

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about the Bible in fun, in
practical ways. Welcome back to another episode

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of the Bible Guys. I'm Jeff
Forster and I have the unparalleled Wesley Woods

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today as my guest. Co host. Chris is out of town this week,

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and so the unparalleled. Yeah,
it gets better every day, every

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day, every day, it gets
better and better and better. So we're

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really excited about having you this week, and we're talking about mostly in this

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whole time, the life of Joseph. So we're going to be reading today

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in Genesis thirty nine and talking about
Joseph and Potiphar's house. Yeah, but

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first we got a good one.
Yeah, what was that? I don't

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have a stump the pastor question?
Oh, these are great, Lisa Ta,

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Lisa T. Hello Lisa, So
I'm gonna read this for you.

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This is a tough one, pastor
Jeff. It says, what is the

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Biblical stands on the existence of extra
terrestrial life and how does it align with

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our understanding of God's creation and plan
for salvation. So Lisa just had a

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simple, like question, just great, the Biblical stance yes, the Biblical

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states stands on extra trustrial life,
and then how does it relate to how

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does it align with our understanding of
God's creation and plan for salvation. So

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she's trying to link those two big
Yeah, well, okay, we only

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have what twenty minutes, Yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah. Man,

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that's a tough one. So,
in my opinion, the Bible doesn't have

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a stance on extraterrestrial life. There's
no statement about extraterrestrials. There are a

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couple of places in the Bible where
people looking for something would say, for

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instance, we referenced I think was
it in Genesis chapter six a couple weeks

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ago, where it talks about how
the sons of God slept with women and

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then there were nephto land. Some
people would say that sons of God means

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people from outer space or something.
There's just no evidence, and it's certainly

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not in the original language. The
Hebrew doesn't seem to reference that at all.

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Yeah, so the Bible doesn't really
seem to reference aliens at all or

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extraterrestrial life. Now in the context
she's asking the question is really great because

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the Bible really is human centric.
It's very much God's desire for humans to

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be able to have a relationship with
him, then how humans broke that relationship,

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and then the whole rest of the
Bible is God solving this broken human

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relationship, ultimately culminating in the person
of Jesus Christ paying the price for our

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sins and redeeming us. And then
all of the elements with regard to judgment,

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with regard to the afterlife or only
reference in the context of humans.

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So there's a couple things on Earth. Death came because of the humans Romans

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chapter wherefore is by one man sin
end of the world, and death came

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by sin, So death passed upon
all men because all have sinned. That

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word all men is talking about mankind
humanity, right, And then there's another

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verse that says wherefore it's appointed unto
man wants to die, and after this

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the judgment. So it sure seems
like there was no death in all of

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God's creation until humans sinned, and
then after that now we all humans have

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one appointment, and then after that
there's the judgment. So God's not referencing

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any other people groups. There isn't
any other reference of a salvation process for

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other you know, terrestrial extraterrestrial types, those kinds of things. So it

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seems to me that the Bible is
very human centric and exclusive of extraterrestrial life,

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but it just doesn't reference it at
all. What's your take on it?

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So basically the same thing. So
the Bible doesn't and I heard a

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preacher say this a long time ago, the Bible doesn't explicitly talk about extraterrestrial

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life. And the preacher said,
where the Bible stops, I stop.

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So that's kind of how I look
at it. Everyone could have an opinion

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on anything, but ultimately, what
does the Bible say is what it all

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comes down to. So if the
Bible stops there, that's where I stop,

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and I don't feel the need for
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this, the obsession, the modern
obsession with aliens, I think is going

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to be very useful in the end
times. So I don't think that it's

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a sinful obsession, but I think
it's going to be very useful. You

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know, the Bible talks about how
the last trumpet will sound and all the

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Christians, those that are dead in
Christ will rise first, and then those

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that remain will rise. So this
rapture kind of a moment and how would

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the governments of the world explain the
disappearance of two billion people? Right,

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the easiest way would be governments go, oh, it was the aliens.

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I'm not saying it was the aliens. The aliens, right. And then

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at the very end, as the
Bible describes the Battle of Armageddon, all

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the nations of the world come together
to fight each other, and then Jesus

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returns in the sky and they can
visibly see him and his armies, and

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the armies of the world turn to
fight Jesus. Who do they think they're

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fighting? If they thought they were
fighting their creator, they wouldn't fighting,

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right, And I think that there's
this convincing Now, you know, seven

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years before a two billion people disappeared
because aliens alien, and now, hey,

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look there's the aliens coming back,
and that would be I think maybe

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the So it'll be a useful tool
for the anti Christ perhaps in the end.

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Not that it's sinful to play around
and watch an alien movie, right,

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but it'll be a useful tool at
the end. Yeah, I'm glad

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you said that, because I like
Alien Versus Predator, all the cheesy ones,

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you know, super cheesy, low
budget. Well, thank you,

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Lisa team, and that was a
great question. We're not afraid to dive

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into the questions. We appreciate that. Well, what a good one.

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Yeah, yeah, you know,
it was interesting. I just had the

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privilege of sitting down with our teenagers. I don't know, we had maybe

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one hundred high school just last week. Yeah, last week. Yeah,

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and it was just an open forum
Q and A. Yeah, so the

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high schoolers could ask any question and
the same question came up. So it

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seems to be on the mind of
a lot of people right now. I

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would say this is probably the tenth
or fifteenth time I've been asked this question

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in the last year of Christians just
asking so where do aliens fit in?

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Yeah, you know, so,
yeah, great question, that's great.

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It's a fun one to talk about
and think about. Now, on the

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other hand, do you think it's
mathematically impossible that there's life out there?

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Mathematically? So? Mathematically so now
when you move into mathematically, now you

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move into like Einstein and you go
into probability. Probability, So according to

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probability, you would assume that it
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So it's interesting for evolutionists. Yeah, it's mathematic there is not enough molecules

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in the in the universe, so
have randomly created life, right, the

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probabilities of it, So I think
it's highly unlikely if you're an evolutionist.

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But if you believe in creation and
that God specially creates, then yeah,

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the universe is big enough I think
for it. So it's kind of a

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weird thing. Anyways, that's a
whole other conversation. I think you should

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do a whole show now, I'm
joking. Yeah, yeah, okay,

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Well, hey, we're going to
continue on with Joseph. And there's a

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pause in between the story of Joseph
being sold into slavery and then now Joseph's

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experience in Egypt. And during that
time, Judah has an affair with one

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of his father's wives or with his
sister in law, isn't it wasn't it

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his sister in law? Yeah,
something like that, And it was a

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pretty horrible story then, but ultimately
she winds up in the the lineage of

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Jesus, the family tree of Jesus. So God redeems the story, even

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though which is a terrible story,
which is an awesome aspect when you think

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about it. The fact that it
doesn't matter who you are, where you

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come from, all roads can lead
back to Jesus. Yeah, which is

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awesome. So now we have Joseph
in Genesis chapter thirty nine, and I'll

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read just like twenty three verses.
Here says when Joseph was taken to Egypt

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by the Ishmaelite traders, he was
purchased by Potiphar and Egyptian officer. Potiphar

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was captain of the guard for Pharaoh, the king of Egypt. The Lord

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was with Joseph, so he succeeded
in everything he did as he served in

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the home of his Egyptian master.
Potiphar noticed this and realized that the Lord

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was with Joseph, giving him success
in everything he did. This pleased Potiphar,

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so he soon made Joseph his personal
attendant. He put him in charge

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of his entire household and everything he
owned. From the day Joseph was put

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in charge of his master's household and
property, the Lord began to bless Potiphar's

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household for Joseph's sake. All his
household affairs ran smoothly, and his crops

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and livestock flourished. So Potiphar gave
Joseph complete administrative responsibility over everything he owned.

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With Joseph there, he didn't worry
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food to eat. Joseph was a
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and Potiphar's wife soon began to look
at him lustfully. Come and sleep with

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me, she demanded, but Joseph
refused. Look, he told him,

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my master trust me with everything his
entire household. No one here has more

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for authority than I do. He's
held nothing back from me except you,

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because you are his wife. How
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It would be a great sin against
God. She kept putting pressure on Joseph

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day after day, but refused to
sleep with her, and he kept out

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of her way as much as possible. One day, however, no one

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else was around. When he went
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and grabbed him by his cloak,
demanding, come and come on sleep with

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me. Joseph tore himself away,
but left his cloak in her hand as

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he ran from the house. When
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and he had fled, she called
out to her servants, and soon all

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the men came running. Look,
she said, my husband has brought this

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Hebrew slave here to make fools of
us. He came into my room to

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rape me, but I screamed.
When he heard me scream, he ran

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outside and got away, but he
left his cloak behind with me. She

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kept the cloak and with her until
her husband came home. Then she told

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him her story that Hebrew slave you
brought into our house tried to come in

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and fool around with me, she
said, but when I screamed, he

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ran outside, leaving his cloak with
me. Potiphar was furious when he heard

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his wife's story about how Joseph had
treated her, and so he took Joseph

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and threw him into the prison where
the king's prisoners were held, and there

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he remained. But the Lord was
with Joseph in the prison and showed him

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his face for love, and the
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warden. Before long, the warden
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prisoners and over everything that happened in
the prison. The warden had no more

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worries because Joseph took care of everything. The Lord was with him and caused

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everything he did to succeed. Yeah, wow, it's kind of like the

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major theme we see here is that
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see that over and over, like, no matter where he was, that

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the Lord was with him. And
it reminds me of that verse where the

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Bible says that he will never leave
us or forsake us. You know,

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God was with him every step of
the way, and that we can take

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comfort in that that no matter what
we're going through, it can be tough,

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right, he went through some very
difficult, tough situations, but God

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was with him in every single one
of those instances. So that's right.

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Yeah, it's kind of like an
overarching theme. It's my favorite part about

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the life of Joseph is that God
was with him. God was with him.

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God was with him. So,
just to put this in perspective,

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this is about nineteen hundred years before
Christ. Just for people thinking, you

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know, here we are were two
thousand years after Christ. This is almost

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the same amount of time before Christ
that this is happening. And Egypt was

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the most powerful nation in the world
right at this point. So Potiphar,

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being the head of the guard of
Pharaoh, was one of the most powerful

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people. Pharaoh being you know,
the king of Egypt, the emperor whatever,

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the ruler, and they viewed the
Pharaohs as gods. So for Potiphar

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to be the protector of the gods, big deal. So here's the guy

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that's pretty wealthy, very substantial.
He has farms and wealth and all these

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things, and the Bible says Joseph
is sold into slavery to Potiphar. I

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think it's interesting how the Bible talks
about slavery often in this context, in

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the context of people buying people.
Sometimes there's good owners and bad owners.

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But the reality is, here's Joseph
as property of another human, and the

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Bible says the Lord was with Joseph. And those feel like almost contradictory ideas,

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don't They go? Yeah, yeah, But God was with them no

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matter what. And I just think
that's awesome when we think about it and

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even apply it to our own personal
lives. Maybe there's someone listening right now

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going through a really tough situation and
they are wondering, is God still with

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me? Did God leave me?
You know, I've been praying about this

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thing for a month and it doesn't
appear like anything has happened. Yet.

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Rest assured, God is still with
you now here's the catch to that,

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though, God doesn't always answer our
prayers the way that we ask for them.

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Yeah. So I can remember,
just as a young kid, I

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prayed about certain things and God answered
the prayer, but not in the form

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and fashion that I thought he was
going to answer my kind of like I

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shared this before with how I prayed
to God that I wanted to go into

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ministry full time. At the time, I was working at another job and

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doing ministry like part time. And
I can now that I think back on

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it, it's kind of like God
was saying, are you sure you want

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this? Yeah, gotta, I
want to go into ministry full time.

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So the first thing that happened the
company that I work for downsized and my

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position was eliminated. I'm like,
well, Lord, I didn't have it

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like this. Yeah. Yeah.
A lot of times our prayers really are

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prescriptions for God. Yeah. It's
like we're writing out here, this is

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what I need you to do for
you. That's a great way as opposed

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to saying God, whatever you want
to do? Yeah, right, And

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which is the more scary aspect to
us, even though He knows all,

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but we still it seems scary to
us. So so you know when I

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read this, humanity hasn't changed much. Yeah, this is two thousand years

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almost before dealing with the scene here, two thousand years after Christ injustices still

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exist. Right. The Bible's not
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is the condition of humanity and that
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nation, and that that's what they
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in the bad conditions, even in
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I think sometimes we are tempted when
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wanted to, to play the victim, to say, well, I could

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be a great person except this happen. I could have been, you know,

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a man of character. I could
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done a thing, but these circumstances
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or this thing happened in my life. But the thing was this,

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Joseph wasn't leaning into what he felt
like was fair for him. Joseph just

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did the best he could where he
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was with him over and over.
You're going to see this as a theme.

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So we read it two times in
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a theme of Joseph's life. But
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he just worked hard. He was
faithful for Potiphar. And you know,

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sometimes the best answer is to in
a bad situation, is to be the

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very best you can be, and
other people are gonna see it, and

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you make a good thing out of
a bad thing. One of the worst

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bosses I ever had. I mean, I found myself sometimes just waking up

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in the morning depressed that I woke
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today, you know what I mean. Horrible, But I decided, you

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know, I'm gonna I'm gonna work
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and and you know, the more
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got, the better opportunity as opportunities
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a little bit of peace for myself
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I hated because I was overachieving,
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I think that's what you're seeing with
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lowly slave, and he could have
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hey I'm gonna I'm gonna do the
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and God bless him. And I
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verse two, the Lord was with
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did as he served in the home
of his Egyptian master. Sometimes in life

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you have to do what you don't
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get to the destination. And I
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How one of the first jobs I
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one of the challenges of ANW well, but here's the challenge with ANNW.

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They're very different from Burger King and
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can make like five big max and
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at least when I worked there,
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Oh that's good, So there was
no like I couldn't make ten I can't

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remember what their hamburgers were called,
make ten of them and just put them

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on a show. They didn't have
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and gave it to the customer.
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busy times because everything is literally being
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there thinking I don't really want to
do this. I mean, I'm getting

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burned by grease. One time that
the huge grease traps on the side of

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the stove. I spilt grease over
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took us like two three hours to
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disaster. But I was willing to
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a car. So I was willing
to endure this horrible working situation with people

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that were crazy. And maybe you're
listening, you work with a few crazy

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people. Let's be honest, we've
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through this all this stuff. But
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wasn't my permanent assignment, and this
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level. So that's kind of how
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he endured and he did well in
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short term season so he could get
to another place. Yeah, so he

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did what he didn't want to do
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to do eventually get there. It's
same thing Dave Ramsey talks about that with

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finances, right, sometimes you have
to decide to live like nobody else is

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willing to live, so that later
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live. Right, So with regard
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all those kinds of things. So
I've heard sports players talk about that.

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I heard like Michael Jordan and other
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when everyone else went to the parties, they're in the gym shooting free

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throws. They're in the gym practicing
jump shots. You got to be willing

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to do what other people aren't willing
to do. Yeah. So the key

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here, I think is, you
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so he succeeded and everything he did
as he served in the home of his

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master, Egyptian master. So it
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so he succeeded everything he did.
It was as he was doing what he

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was supposed to be doing at the
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Hey, I'm going to bless you
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There's a blessing in the doing.
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Most of God's blessings are if then
propositions, if you do this,

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then I'll do this. And so
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then you see this faithfulness goes beyond
just being a hard worker to where Potiphar's

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wife it wasn't uncommon in that culture
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and so she's coming on to Joseph, and Joseph keeps resisting and resisting,

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resisting. The one mistake I think
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his brothers earlier about hey, you're
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a mistake I think in immaturity.
In this one, there was a mistake

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in that he allowed himself to be
alone. He kept avoiding her, kept

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avoiding her, but then he's alone
with her, and you know, hey,

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when people are coming on to you, you need to create buffer zones

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and you need to have or when
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you find somebody attractive, you need
to make sure there's always people around

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you. One of the things that
we've set up at Heritage with our staff

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is we have one of our values
is live wisely, and we'll talk about

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it sometimes. The idea of live
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in cars alone. We don't go
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sex. And it's not that I
think that you're going to fall in us

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in but the optics of it are
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strategy. We're going to build into
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so that things like this couldn't happen, so that nobody could ever accuse us.

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The reason why, because you're gonna
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throws Joseph because not because Joseph did
something wrong, but because Joseph had no

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witnesses. Right, Joseph's life could
have been ruined if and in some ways

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was ruined because of an accusation that
wasn't true, but because he had nobody

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else to back him up, he
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And so sometimes the best wisdom is
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before that problem ever happens. And
so, hey, I'm always going to

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have more than one person around whenever
I travel internationally, we always travel in

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groups. Hey, you went you
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right, And we travel in groups, we don't travel alone all those kinds

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of things. And there's a reason
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worst day, I don't want to
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I don't want to be accused of
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people that are together, I think
that there's something about that that we need

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to be thinking about our reputations,
not just what will happen, but what

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could happen and prevent that. Yeah, and don't be lulled into sin.

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I think people have a misconception I
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think the devil is like some huge
creature, something that you saw in like

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a horror movie. He's coming to
get you with huge fans. If you

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saw that creature coming towards you,
you would run the other direction. The

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enemy doesn't want you to run the
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like I think the Bible refers to
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going to come in a form that's
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don't get lolled into this situation,
which the Bible doesn't say, but it

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kind of seems like Joseph kind of
got lolled into this. Well I could

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still work around her. Well,
I can still do that. No,

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stay far away, because it says
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Yeah, earlier. Yeah, and
then now here he is gonna oh yeah,

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this is just how it is.
It's like, no, keep your

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guard up. But then he does
do the right thing. He runs.

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That is the right thing, man, when when you find yourself in a

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bad situation, run when run from
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don't just run from a sinful thing. Here, Paul says in his writings,

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flee even the appearance of evil,
right right from the avoid every appearance

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of evil, he says, flee
youthful lusts. And so that idea,

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that's the right answer. When you
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or tempting situation, run, run
is fast. Don't get in that situation.

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But if you do, run,
run from it as fast as you

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can so that intention comes your way. Run the other way. Well,

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so he goes to prison, and
then while he's in prison, God's with

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him there too. So we're going
to continue throughout the week with the story

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of Joseph, so we look forward
to having you join us the next time