1 00:00:01,636 --> 00:00:05,669 Welcome to Plans Are Booked, a podcast for every reader. 2 00:00:05,669 --> 00:00:06,811 I'm Molly Geller. 3 00:00:07,263 --> 00:00:17,709 I'm Stephanie Blackburn. 4 00:00:17,709 --> 00:00:21,071 I was literally going to say that I was singing in the car on the way home and 5 00:00:21,071 --> 00:00:23,952 having the complete opposite of a Phoebe Buffay. 6 00:00:24,252 --> 00:00:28,208 I sounded horrible and my voice kept cutting out like mid-note. 7 00:00:28,208 --> 00:00:31,310 that's my favorite when you go to hit like a high and down note and all of a sudden 8 00:00:31,310 --> 00:00:32,981 it's just air and you're like oh 9 00:00:32,981 --> 00:00:34,062 Oh boy. 10 00:00:34,236 --> 00:00:38,546 The best part of that classic Friends episode is when Phoebe is running around 11 00:00:38,546 --> 00:00:43,297 Central Park licking everyone's coffee cups trying to keep the germs. 12 00:00:43,772 --> 00:00:45,253 Listen, she had something going. 13 00:00:45,253 --> 00:00:47,094 I get it. 14 00:00:47,094 --> 00:00:53,059 So welcome to Episode 25. 15 00:00:53,059 --> 00:00:54,519 I know it's wild. 16 00:00:55,661 --> 00:01:05,007 And we're very excited because, well, when the episode airs the following day, for 17 00:01:05,007 --> 00:01:08,350 all you Swifties, tortured poets. 18 00:01:08,350 --> 00:01:11,071 department will be out. 19 00:01:11,471 --> 00:01:13,411 I have a lot of plans. 20 00:01:14,439 --> 00:01:18,282 I have like the whole weekend planned out because it also is the day before record 21 00:01:18,282 --> 00:01:19,403 store day. 22 00:01:20,064 --> 00:01:26,029 So there's just a lot musically going on that whole the whole weekend. 23 00:01:26,029 --> 00:01:27,190 So I'm very excited. 24 00:01:27,190 --> 00:01:31,710 I'm going to a Swifty dance party that I like bought a ticket for. 25 00:01:31,710 --> 00:01:33,771 What does that entail? 26 00:01:33,771 --> 00:01:39,554 I think you go and they play maybe all of her music videos or something goes on. 27 00:01:39,554 --> 00:01:44,678 There's a visual component and then you dance around and sing her face off. 28 00:01:44,678 --> 00:01:46,167 Well, there'd be tellers hooking. 29 00:01:46,167 --> 00:01:48,048 cocktails at this dance event? 30 00:01:48,048 --> 00:01:48,929 Great question. 31 00:01:48,929 --> 00:01:51,912 I don't actually know the age requirement. 32 00:01:51,912 --> 00:01:53,633 I think it's 18 plus. 33 00:01:53,813 --> 00:01:56,035 So I don't know the answer to that. 34 00:01:56,035 --> 00:01:57,936 Well report back to me on the drinks. 35 00:01:58,477 --> 00:02:01,999 Um, it's been kind of a busy week. 36 00:02:03,663 --> 00:02:05,104 I don't even know what I've done. 37 00:02:05,104 --> 00:02:05,924 Something else should go. 38 00:02:05,924 --> 00:02:08,106 I have to think about what I did this week. 39 00:02:08,206 --> 00:02:10,087 I just feel tired, that's all I know. 40 00:02:11,028 --> 00:02:13,971 Okay, well I'm happy to be here since I'm fresh off a plane. 41 00:02:13,971 --> 00:02:17,253 I was just in Charleston, South Carolina. 42 00:02:17,253 --> 00:02:19,575 I was visiting my cousin Martha. 43 00:02:19,575 --> 00:02:21,897 Shout out Martha who listens to every post. 44 00:02:21,897 --> 00:02:23,698 I can listen to the rest of the talks. 45 00:02:23,698 --> 00:02:26,821 We were and will be working together, but she listens immediately. 46 00:02:26,821 --> 00:02:28,042 So thank you for that. 47 00:02:28,901 --> 00:02:32,188 If you haven't been to Charleston before, it is an amazing. 48 00:02:32,188 --> 00:02:35,688 Food City, which was the primary reason that I was amped to go again. 49 00:02:35,688 --> 00:02:37,789 I went for the first time two years ago. 50 00:02:37,789 --> 00:02:38,629 I was there for a week. 51 00:02:38,629 --> 00:02:40,770 We were there for my mom's 70th. 52 00:02:41,310 --> 00:02:45,911 This was a bit quicker, just a Friday to a Sunday, but I did get to go to the 53 00:02:45,911 --> 00:02:50,012 obstinate daughter, which is like on every top 10 list of Charleston restaurants. 54 00:02:50,012 --> 00:02:51,693 It's on Sullivan's Island. 55 00:02:52,233 --> 00:02:58,074 I had what I would say is maybe the best pasta with vodka sauce I've ever had, 56 00:02:58,074 --> 00:03:02,135 which as a vegetarian, I've eaten quite a lot of pasta to just. 57 00:03:03,936 --> 00:03:08,538 It also was at Biscuits and went to my favorite ice cream place, the Jennings, 58 00:03:08,938 --> 00:03:14,361 and we did the whole new garden tour, which here in Boston, I used to do the 59 00:03:14,361 --> 00:03:16,142 south end garden tour every year. 60 00:03:16,142 --> 00:03:18,403 I covered it on my blog three years. 61 00:03:18,603 --> 00:03:23,285 It was cool to do it in another city, just see the beautiful, elegant, amazing homes 62 00:03:23,285 --> 00:03:28,341 and see all the different styles of plants and trees and my parents. 63 00:03:28,341 --> 00:03:32,186 move at a slower pace these days, and they're 70, so that was a challenge, but 64 00:03:32,186 --> 00:03:34,428 otherwise a very good time. 65 00:03:35,229 --> 00:03:36,992 Got some shopping in. 66 00:03:36,992 --> 00:03:41,337 It was just like a great trip, and it was one of those things where like three days 67 00:03:41,337 --> 00:03:43,639 actually did feel like a legit vacation. 68 00:03:44,182 --> 00:03:48,764 And I profited off of this because I'm a southern girl at heart, even though I'm 69 00:03:48,764 --> 00:03:50,205 clearly a northerner. 70 00:03:50,485 --> 00:03:56,448 I got gluten-free biscuit mix and grits, which shrimp and grits is one of my like 71 00:03:56,448 --> 00:03:57,408 top five 72 00:03:57,829 --> 00:04:02,716 So I feel like I want, you should go to South Carolina more often so I can have 73 00:04:02,716 --> 00:04:03,292 treats. 74 00:04:03,292 --> 00:04:07,396 I can bring stuff in that is actually fully cooked gluten-free biscuit, like 75 00:04:07,396 --> 00:04:10,900 already made because I have heard that the famous place there, Cal, is called Little 76 00:04:10,900 --> 00:04:15,644 Biscuit, does GF Biscuits, but in fact the only thing that was available was the mix, 77 00:04:15,644 --> 00:04:16,404 not the... 78 00:04:17,283 --> 00:04:18,624 like finished thing. 79 00:04:30,574 --> 00:04:31,168 Yes. 80 00:04:31,168 --> 00:04:31,768 oh. 81 00:04:32,604 --> 00:04:34,461 That's why we have to acknowledge to the people. 82 00:04:34,461 --> 00:04:36,769 Phoebe Buffay, I mean hello? 83 00:04:36,769 --> 00:04:41,535 Yeah, but my ears are also clogged so I can't tell if I just sound weird to 84 00:04:41,535 --> 00:04:42,556 myself. 85 00:04:42,777 --> 00:04:46,823 I have nothing to report except that the house is still not done and I'm basically 86 00:04:46,823 --> 00:04:47,853 just dying. 87 00:04:47,853 --> 00:04:51,315 nothing to report except that the house is still not done yet and basically it's 88 00:04:51,315 --> 00:04:51,435 dying. 89 00:04:51,435 --> 00:04:52,296 Can you explain something about that? 90 00:04:52,296 --> 00:04:53,696 She does have a head cold, people. 91 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:58,703 Okay, please explain to our beloved listeners what the situation is with the 92 00:04:58,703 --> 00:05:02,707 toilets and the porta potty because I feel the women listening to this show need to 93 00:05:02,707 --> 00:05:03,127 understand. 94 00:05:03,127 --> 00:05:05,810 We wouldn't have to describe full names. 95 00:05:05,810 --> 00:05:10,614 If you need to guess the names of the people and find out who it is that you 96 00:05:10,614 --> 00:05:12,727 should probably know. 97 00:05:12,727 --> 00:05:13,108 hire. 98 00:05:13,108 --> 00:05:15,589 We would be happy to provide that information. 99 00:05:15,761 --> 00:05:22,064 So our plumber, I think this was three weeks ago, I was texting him because he 100 00:05:22,064 --> 00:05:26,286 doesn't always respond to my dad because my dad will just call him out on his BS. 101 00:05:26,996 --> 00:05:31,060 So I texted him and I said, we are planning to list on such and such date, 102 00:05:31,060 --> 00:05:34,262 which has actually passed at this point, but that's neither here nor there. 103 00:05:35,383 --> 00:05:36,884 He said, I'm busy this week. 104 00:05:36,884 --> 00:05:39,746 I will pencil you in for April 1st. 105 00:05:40,087 --> 00:05:42,029 I said, great, I'll get you to that. 106 00:05:42,029 --> 00:05:43,018 He was probably going to do that. 107 00:05:43,018 --> 00:05:44,239 first and the second. 108 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:48,682 And then my dad being like, he has to do it. 109 00:05:48,682 --> 00:05:50,603 So there's no canceling. 110 00:05:50,684 --> 00:05:53,806 Went and had our port-a-potty. 111 00:05:54,779 --> 00:05:55,639 requisitioned. 112 00:05:55,639 --> 00:05:58,980 So they came and pick it up, but I didn't know that. 113 00:05:58,980 --> 00:06:04,561 So I went to go to the bathroom and there was no bathroom because our plumber did 114 00:06:04,561 --> 00:06:06,202 not in fact come last week. 115 00:06:06,202 --> 00:06:08,182 He still has not come this week. 116 00:06:08,443 --> 00:06:14,244 He claims to be sick, which fine, you're allowed to take a sick day. 117 00:06:14,244 --> 00:06:18,586 You are not allowed to take a sick week and a half when I am working and I am 118 00:06:18,586 --> 00:06:19,466 dying. 119 00:06:20,566 --> 00:06:21,426 And 120 00:06:22,283 --> 00:06:27,324 I don't want to get into like the nitty gritty, but being a woman and having no 121 00:06:27,444 --> 00:06:30,865 bathroom and also my dad just goes, just go outside. 122 00:06:30,865 --> 00:06:36,947 And I'm like, that would be doable if there was a spot in the yard that wasn't 123 00:06:36,947 --> 00:06:40,108 viewable from a neighbor's house. 124 00:06:40,248 --> 00:06:45,449 There's literally no side of the yard or behind the house or next to the house. 125 00:06:45,449 --> 00:06:49,490 There is nowhere to pee and not be in view. 126 00:06:49,567 --> 00:06:50,568 of someone's window. 127 00:06:50,568 --> 00:06:55,996 So I have taken the past week and a half to telling people to stay where they are 128 00:06:55,996 --> 00:06:57,498 for five minutes. 129 00:06:57,498 --> 00:07:03,849 And then I open the front and back door of a vehicle in the driveway and go there. 130 00:07:03,849 --> 00:07:07,877 This entire time I have been wondering what you have been doing if you couldn't 131 00:07:07,877 --> 00:07:11,424 hold it and I was like surely she must be driving to whatever the closest like gas 132 00:07:11,424 --> 00:07:12,425 station or 133 00:07:12,644 --> 00:07:17,386 There's a dunks that's like eight minutes maybe away. 134 00:07:18,167 --> 00:07:23,491 The problem is that I just get to the point where I cannot hold it. 135 00:07:23,491 --> 00:07:26,753 I just push it too far and then I'm like, well shoot, now I can't drive there. 136 00:07:26,753 --> 00:07:28,094 I'm not gonna make it. 137 00:07:28,345 --> 00:07:36,530 I'm using the test. 138 00:07:36,530 --> 00:07:38,672 Well, there's no plumbing yet, so she can't walk. 139 00:07:38,672 --> 00:07:39,492 No, there is plumbing. 140 00:07:39,492 --> 00:07:40,553 Oh, there is. 141 00:07:42,442 --> 00:07:53,698 Well, you're not going to do that. 142 00:07:53,698 --> 00:07:56,781 Yeah, you don't leave that for them to christen. 143 00:07:56,872 --> 00:08:01,015 But I just want people to know, so we are gonna go, Caitlin and I are gonna go to 144 00:08:01,015 --> 00:08:01,996 see the finished product. 145 00:08:01,996 --> 00:08:04,478 We're gonna take a ton of photos and videos, we're gonna share it all with you, 146 00:08:04,478 --> 00:08:05,839 you'll see the finished product. 147 00:08:05,839 --> 00:08:09,461 I just want you, when you see how gorgeous this house is at the end, to realize that 148 00:08:09,461 --> 00:08:13,585 Stephanie worked on this house for probably two weeks by the time this is all 149 00:08:13,585 --> 00:08:15,546 said and done without anywhere to go to the bathroom. 150 00:08:15,546 --> 00:08:16,797 Like, this is what is happening. 151 00:08:16,797 --> 00:08:19,679 This isn't the first house that this has happened either. 152 00:08:20,380 --> 00:08:25,764 Men just do not think about the fact that maybe it's not easy to just go to the 153 00:08:25,764 --> 00:08:27,325 bathroom outside. 154 00:08:28,186 --> 00:08:33,550 I think this is the third house actually that hasn't had a bathroom. 155 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,225 Anyways, that's the phase. 156 00:08:37,225 --> 00:08:40,331 We've been in many different phases of the renovation that you all have been 157 00:08:40,331 --> 00:08:42,296 listening to as Stephanie has been giving updates. 158 00:08:42,296 --> 00:08:46,003 We have reached the no bathroom stage of the renovation. 159 00:08:47,249 --> 00:08:49,450 of a phase of the foundation that you all have addressed at the husband and wife 160 00:08:49,450 --> 00:08:49,610 updates. 161 00:08:49,610 --> 00:08:50,910 We have reached a no-file from the stage of the wedding. 162 00:08:50,910 --> 00:08:54,131 Well, I have not been suffering as much as Steph, and I also did not go on vacation 163 00:08:54,131 --> 00:08:55,231 like Molly. 164 00:08:55,591 --> 00:08:57,272 I have been house hunting. 165 00:08:57,832 --> 00:09:02,873 And I spent Friday and Saturday last weekend, I saw five different houses. 166 00:09:03,758 --> 00:09:07,058 Three of them are already under contract. 167 00:09:07,138 --> 00:09:12,540 Not a single one of them was interesting to me really. 168 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,701 It's just like kind of, like the spring market's a joke. 169 00:09:16,841 --> 00:09:20,102 The Massachusetts house market right now is a joke. 170 00:09:20,122 --> 00:09:22,603 Everything is really overpriced. 171 00:09:23,283 --> 00:09:29,485 I'm taking my sweet time because I can and I'm in a month to month lease situation so 172 00:09:29,485 --> 00:09:31,245 I'm not freaking out. 173 00:09:31,416 --> 00:09:36,419 but I now understand why other people haven't been freaking out in the last few 174 00:09:36,419 --> 00:09:37,219 years. 175 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:43,062 And it's just like time consuming and you're like right, but I feel like any of 176 00:09:43,062 --> 00:09:47,824 you gets one of the votes I have to go to because they all come from the same, at 177 00:09:47,824 --> 00:09:54,107 the same time, or you're trying to commit to waiting for people to do it. 178 00:09:54,107 --> 00:09:57,157 So I think it was a critical moment for me now. 179 00:09:57,157 --> 00:09:58,197 fun day. 180 00:09:59,027 --> 00:10:02,768 went to Moose on the road, it was our first time in Harvard Square. 181 00:10:02,768 --> 00:10:07,050 It's a TV bar, like fun, believable, great entertainment. 182 00:10:07,050 --> 00:10:12,133 I had a couple of people, like both started preparing for class in their two, 183 00:10:12,133 --> 00:10:17,835 like they had their birthday time up there, and the day four was really cool. 184 00:10:18,135 --> 00:10:23,038 And then I took a class in Harvard Square, like from the dead of my year, like 185 00:10:23,038 --> 00:10:27,220 January, February, and I walked past it, and I was like, this does look really 186 00:10:27,220 --> 00:10:27,860 cool. 187 00:10:29,802 --> 00:10:33,387 It's like a green and yellow, but it's not a cherry. 188 00:10:33,387 --> 00:10:34,829 It's not a cherry. 189 00:10:37,086 --> 00:10:40,088 I it's not in the same building as anything else. 190 00:10:40,088 --> 00:10:43,250 It's like on its own and you kind of have to know it's there. 191 00:10:43,791 --> 00:10:45,452 It's two floors. 192 00:10:46,393 --> 00:10:51,797 The drinks have they have like a little Wu song character that they've created. 193 00:10:51,817 --> 00:10:57,182 And like similar to like when a spicy dish has like the fire signs underneath. 194 00:10:57,182 --> 00:10:58,663 That's how they rate their drinks. 195 00:10:58,663 --> 00:11:03,847 So like, if it's five Wu songs, like probably just get one of those kind of 196 00:11:03,847 --> 00:11:05,648 thing, which is really fun. 197 00:11:05,949 --> 00:11:07,089 The food was 198 00:11:07,339 --> 00:11:08,259 is really fun. 199 00:11:08,259 --> 00:11:10,280 The food was unbelievably good. 200 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,577 Like, I know you guys have seen it here, 201 00:11:12,577 --> 00:11:13,658 in them. 202 00:11:14,318 --> 00:11:18,742 We got this really good lo mein that was gluten-free because we had a gluten-free 203 00:11:18,742 --> 00:11:19,762 person. 204 00:11:21,123 --> 00:11:26,127 My friend was like, this is the wettest lo mein I've ever had, but it was in more of 205 00:11:26,127 --> 00:11:30,329 a sauce as opposed to a regular lo mein. 206 00:11:30,584 --> 00:11:31,444 noodle. 207 00:11:31,664 --> 00:11:36,465 It was like a rice, it wasn't like a wheat noodles basically. 208 00:11:36,465 --> 00:11:39,006 Yeah, it was really good. 209 00:11:39,006 --> 00:11:40,886 And I just went back and also, um... 210 00:11:42,659 --> 00:11:46,721 They have all sorts of different buns and all of the buns come and they look like 211 00:11:46,721 --> 00:11:47,821 animals. 212 00:11:48,422 --> 00:11:52,144 Like the buns, like the top of the buns, like one was like a chick and one was a 213 00:11:52,144 --> 00:11:54,025 pig and it was so cute. 214 00:11:54,025 --> 00:12:00,168 And they have real crab, like crab, like really like good ones. 215 00:12:00,168 --> 00:12:02,749 But then they also had a... 216 00:12:03,070 --> 00:12:07,231 corn cheese rainbow, and it was like, so good. 217 00:12:07,472 --> 00:12:08,852 It was really good. 218 00:12:08,852 --> 00:12:10,792 I'm definitely going back, we can definitely film. 219 00:12:10,792 --> 00:12:11,953 I can't wait. 220 00:12:12,213 --> 00:12:16,234 I will say though, I kind of did this as like a little baby, or a big thing for my 221 00:12:16,234 --> 00:12:17,874 friend Margaret, and... 222 00:12:18,472 --> 00:12:23,354 like her birthday was almost two weeks ago and we had to go on a Sunday because when 223 00:12:23,354 --> 00:12:28,036 I looked like in mid-March all of the Fridays and Saturdays were already gone 224 00:12:28,036 --> 00:12:29,456 for all of April. 225 00:12:29,877 --> 00:12:31,597 I was like okay. 226 00:12:32,921 --> 00:12:36,143 I had a fun time with us, like, that's pretty cool. 227 00:12:37,223 --> 00:12:41,105 Yeah, but I kinda like Sunday afternoon day drinking, you know? 228 00:12:41,225 --> 00:12:43,526 It was weird, and fun coming. 229 00:12:43,756 --> 00:12:47,499 I would like to see what it's like at night because I bet it gets like, cause 230 00:12:47,499 --> 00:12:49,280 they didn't have both floors open. 231 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:53,944 They only had one floor open and I bet it gets like really fun. 232 00:12:53,944 --> 00:12:55,786 And I don't know. 233 00:12:55,786 --> 00:12:57,227 It feels, I feel like it would have good vibes. 234 00:12:57,227 --> 00:12:59,108 The decor was awesome. 235 00:12:59,309 --> 00:13:02,191 Every drink has a different mug that it comes in. 236 00:13:02,411 --> 00:13:07,255 Some of the mugs you can buy, like I got a Mai Tai and it came in a mug that looked 237 00:13:07,255 --> 00:13:10,105 like a Chinese takeout box with a handle on it. 238 00:13:10,105 --> 00:13:10,885 Ooh! 239 00:13:10,885 --> 00:13:12,146 It was really fun. 240 00:13:13,510 --> 00:13:17,011 It sounds like I would be obsessed with this place just from like the branding of 241 00:13:17,011 --> 00:13:17,751 it all. 242 00:13:18,091 --> 00:13:19,031 It's super fun. 243 00:13:19,031 --> 00:13:23,872 You have to collect the teaching cups from other teaching bars across the country. 244 00:13:23,872 --> 00:13:29,054 And you can put them in a display box display piece when you walk in. 245 00:13:29,054 --> 00:13:33,635 And I play from my bachelor party in Chicago and I've been to that teaching 246 00:13:33,635 --> 00:13:34,215 bar. 247 00:13:34,215 --> 00:13:36,454 And when you click in the display it's really cool. 248 00:13:36,454 --> 00:13:37,334 Have a good day. 249 00:13:37,412 --> 00:13:39,352 I love that. 250 00:13:39,352 --> 00:13:44,815 Before we get into our book topic for the day, just before we got on these 251 00:13:44,815 --> 00:13:50,238 microphones, unboxed a very special delivery that arrived a few days ago. 252 00:13:50,238 --> 00:13:55,480 A few episodes ago, I shared my current obsession with Miss Peaches, the rescue 253 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:59,122 dog of Dave Portnoy, the creator of Barstool Sports. 254 00:13:59,442 --> 00:14:02,843 And I mentioned, I think on that episode that... 255 00:14:02,844 --> 00:14:06,786 they were at like 800,000 followers on Instagram and I was positive that they 256 00:14:06,786 --> 00:14:08,687 would cross a million in short order. 257 00:14:08,687 --> 00:14:14,131 So sure enough, they have hit a million followers and we now are the proud owners, 258 00:14:14,131 --> 00:14:18,393 between the three of us, of two sweatshirts and a hat with every penny of 259 00:14:18,393 --> 00:14:20,655 that money going towards dog rescues. 260 00:14:20,655 --> 00:14:26,018 And he has made so many generous gifts to rescues all over the country, $10,000, 261 00:14:26,018 --> 00:14:26,618 $25,000. 262 00:14:26,618 --> 00:14:27,198 So... 263 00:14:28,460 --> 00:14:32,425 I will share a picture on our Instagram of the stuff that we got in case anybody 264 00:14:32,425 --> 00:14:34,488 wants to pick out some for themselves. 265 00:14:34,488 --> 00:14:35,690 We'll share the link. 266 00:14:35,690 --> 00:14:39,435 No like kickback to us just because it's a cool thing to do. 267 00:14:40,117 --> 00:14:44,283 So if you're into animal rescue you can see the cute stuff that we will soon be 268 00:14:44,283 --> 00:14:45,183 sporting. 269 00:14:47,830 --> 00:14:51,251 So we're doing a YA book this week. 270 00:14:53,292 --> 00:14:58,754 This, so kind of a funny like roundabout way that we all ended up reading this. 271 00:14:58,954 --> 00:15:02,396 Steph read it years ago, gave it to me. 272 00:15:02,396 --> 00:15:06,237 I was, it was like in my TBR pile for like a million years. 273 00:15:06,237 --> 00:15:09,878 And I was like, I don't think I'm ever gonna get to this, gave it back to her. 274 00:15:10,159 --> 00:15:15,281 And then we had the book fair at my school and a bunch of my students were like, oh 275 00:15:15,281 --> 00:15:17,141 my God, have you read this book? 276 00:15:17,298 --> 00:15:20,239 And it was a controls guide to murder. 277 00:15:20,439 --> 00:15:22,435 And I was like, no, I haven't. 278 00:15:22,435 --> 00:15:27,076 read it, but I really feel like maybe I should revisit it and read it because my 279 00:15:27,076 --> 00:15:33,658 friend said it was good and it's also going to be a TV show and the lead actress 280 00:15:33,658 --> 00:15:38,619 in it is Wednesday's bestie from Wednesday. 281 00:15:38,659 --> 00:15:40,680 I can't think of her name. 282 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:41,980 The blonde werewolf girl. 283 00:15:41,980 --> 00:15:43,160 She is the best. 284 00:15:43,221 --> 00:15:46,801 So she's my favorite character in the show actually. 285 00:15:46,927 --> 00:15:53,452 Um, so, I was like, no, my sweet said it's good, this girl that I'm always gonna be 286 00:15:53,452 --> 00:15:56,054 in the show, I should just give it a go. 287 00:15:56,054 --> 00:16:01,978 It's my product location with me, it's in Florida, right from my birthday, and... 288 00:16:02,226 --> 00:16:07,347 I read like 30 or so pages and I was like, okay, I'm like sort of intrigued. 289 00:16:07,587 --> 00:16:10,828 And then I like took it to the pool and read like another 30 or 40 pages. 290 00:16:10,828 --> 00:16:12,428 And I was like, okay. 291 00:16:12,548 --> 00:16:16,789 And then like halfway through, I was like, I have to know. 292 00:16:16,874 --> 00:16:18,574 what actually happened. 293 00:16:18,734 --> 00:16:26,637 Because the premise is very interesting, and I feel like very like, possible, 294 00:16:26,637 --> 00:16:27,297 honestly. 295 00:16:27,297 --> 00:16:33,300 Like, it's told from the perspective of a high school girl doing her senior capstone 296 00:16:33,300 --> 00:16:36,721 project, and she gets a head start on it before school starts. 297 00:16:37,516 --> 00:16:37,796 Keep going. 298 00:16:37,796 --> 00:16:43,218 So it's about this really precocious girl and she has basically decided to 299 00:16:43,218 --> 00:16:49,359 investigate a murder and suicide situation. 300 00:16:49,519 --> 00:16:54,981 I don't want to like give too much away but essentially, this girl goes missing 301 00:16:54,981 --> 00:16:57,941 and she's gone for so long that she's presumed dead. 302 00:16:58,050 --> 00:17:03,393 And then her boyfriend commits suicide in the, well, it looks like suicide in the 303 00:17:03,393 --> 00:17:09,978 woods and leaves kind of an ominous note that makes it seem like he did something 304 00:17:09,978 --> 00:17:11,418 to his girlfriend. 305 00:17:11,919 --> 00:17:16,982 And Pip, the main character, like does not accept it because she knew the boy in her 306 00:17:16,982 --> 00:17:17,363 path. 307 00:17:17,363 --> 00:17:19,344 Like as a child, she knew him. 308 00:17:19,704 --> 00:17:25,108 And so she decides to take on this case and kind of be this like 309 00:17:28,390 --> 00:17:32,131 because she feels like she knows the people well enough that they'll actually 310 00:17:32,131 --> 00:17:33,211 talk to her. 311 00:17:34,071 --> 00:17:35,091 I really enjoyed it. 312 00:17:35,091 --> 00:17:40,353 The only hump that I had to get over was that the writing is a little clunky, but 313 00:17:40,353 --> 00:17:45,114 it's all from the point of view of a high school girl who is submitting this as a 314 00:17:45,114 --> 00:17:47,895 project, and these are her project notes. 315 00:17:48,335 --> 00:17:53,676 So once I reminded myself of that a couple of times, I was like, okay, this is good 316 00:17:53,676 --> 00:17:58,557 storytelling, even if it's a little not that polished. 317 00:17:58,604 --> 00:18:00,706 So once I like, when I read the book, I was like, okay, this is a good story 318 00:18:00,706 --> 00:18:01,967 telling, but it's like, well, not that much. 319 00:18:01,967 --> 00:18:04,170 See, and I think that's why I liked it, is because, one, it kept me on my toes 320 00:18:04,170 --> 00:18:09,334 because it kept changing from like, not scribbled, but like notes. 321 00:18:09,811 --> 00:18:17,274 or, my brain's not working, but when she took recorded conversations and thank you. 322 00:18:17,274 --> 00:18:22,856 I love those because you have to sort of imagine what's happening in between what's 323 00:18:22,856 --> 00:18:23,857 actually being said. 324 00:18:23,857 --> 00:18:26,177 So it could be like so many different things. 325 00:18:27,858 --> 00:18:29,939 I think it made the story more interesting. 326 00:18:29,939 --> 00:18:35,321 I think if it was just told from like a narration standpoint, it wouldn't have had 327 00:18:35,521 --> 00:18:38,042 the catch that it seemed to have. 328 00:18:38,955 --> 00:18:45,834 Yes, it is a YA book and so maybe it's not as polished maybe or written. 329 00:18:47,687 --> 00:18:50,230 so that the reader comes up to the writing. 330 00:18:51,093 --> 00:18:54,499 But I wish that this book had been out when I was a teen because I feel like I 331 00:18:54,499 --> 00:18:58,794 would have loved this and there was nothing like this back then. 332 00:18:58,794 --> 00:18:58,894 now. 333 00:18:58,894 --> 00:19:00,675 I wish I had this much time to think about this too, because I've lived through life 334 00:19:00,675 --> 00:19:01,655 and said, you know, there's nothing like this. 335 00:19:01,655 --> 00:19:04,556 I feel like the only thing that's even remotely similar in my brain, and we've 336 00:19:04,556 --> 00:19:07,217 actually talked about both, well, I've talked about both of these authors, 337 00:19:07,217 --> 00:19:07,797 Caroline B. 338 00:19:07,797 --> 00:19:08,677 Cooney. 339 00:19:09,227 --> 00:19:13,789 who wrote these other little works, and all these books, and then Paulist Duncan, 340 00:19:13,789 --> 00:19:18,452 who wrote, I don't know if you're watching or, who are cultural history students or 341 00:19:18,452 --> 00:19:21,793 are between category and class of a college. 342 00:19:21,933 --> 00:19:25,085 Well, there's a lot to it already. 343 00:19:25,085 --> 00:19:26,205 What did you think? 344 00:19:31,218 --> 00:19:32,878 to cover it for the pod. 345 00:19:33,438 --> 00:19:38,340 And at first I found it a little bit slow. 346 00:19:39,141 --> 00:19:42,622 And I think part of that could be that I had just read a few books prior to this 347 00:19:42,622 --> 00:19:46,183 that I like loved and had raced through and so it was like a rough transition as 348 00:19:46,183 --> 00:19:50,145 often happens for me when I step outside the romance genre again. 349 00:19:51,325 --> 00:19:56,387 I did like the project notes and the transcription from the interviews. 350 00:19:56,387 --> 00:19:57,747 I think the thing 351 00:19:58,156 --> 00:20:03,621 that was most interesting to me is when she decides to kind of reopen this case. 352 00:20:04,143 --> 00:20:11,071 Her unlikely ally turns out to be the brother of this person, Sal, who they 353 00:20:11,071 --> 00:20:13,574 think took his own life. 354 00:20:13,574 --> 00:20:15,275 And I was very like, 355 00:20:15,708 --> 00:20:17,649 how is she going to earn his trust? 356 00:20:17,649 --> 00:20:20,271 His family's already been so like traumatized. 357 00:20:20,271 --> 00:20:22,273 I don't know if this is going to work out. 358 00:20:22,473 --> 00:20:27,357 And then their sort of co-conspirator relationship throughout the book was 359 00:20:27,357 --> 00:20:29,659 actually the thing that kept me going. 360 00:20:29,879 --> 00:20:34,903 And I felt like seeing how things, you know, just like evolved for them both in 361 00:20:34,903 --> 00:20:38,366 their personal relationship, but how much each of them was willing to pour into 362 00:20:38,366 --> 00:20:40,007 trying to solve this. 363 00:20:40,007 --> 00:20:43,550 It was like the stakes got higher and higher and also their trust in each other 364 00:20:43,550 --> 00:20:44,891 got higher and higher. 365 00:20:45,556 --> 00:20:50,300 I'm not as good at predicting the endings of things as the two of you are, but I 366 00:20:50,300 --> 00:20:55,404 will say that I did not see the ending of this coming at all, which I liked. 367 00:20:55,404 --> 00:20:59,608 I felt like as it was unfolding in that final like 25% of the book, let's say, I 368 00:20:59,608 --> 00:21:02,090 honestly had no idea what was going to happen. 369 00:21:02,310 --> 00:21:04,612 And I felt myself like leaning forward. 370 00:21:04,612 --> 00:21:09,436 I was reading it on the couch, like just wondering what the resolution was going to 371 00:21:09,436 --> 00:21:10,077 be. 372 00:21:10,237 --> 00:21:13,140 And I felt like even though... 373 00:21:13,140 --> 00:21:16,361 you may find it slow at the beginning, anyone who decides to pick this up, you 374 00:21:16,361 --> 00:21:20,942 really should stick with it because the pace increases significantly as it goes 375 00:21:20,942 --> 00:21:21,622 on. 376 00:21:21,882 --> 00:21:25,824 And then the big reveals at the end, I felt like were really worth it, like that 377 00:21:25,824 --> 00:21:28,404 the payoff at the end was a big one. 378 00:21:28,765 --> 00:21:32,666 And, you know, not that everything was like tied up with a bow, but I felt like 379 00:21:32,666 --> 00:21:34,467 you did get answers to certain things. 380 00:21:34,467 --> 00:21:36,947 And also, people who seemed 381 00:21:37,217 --> 00:21:50,101 I mean, like the line in the book, which the stories sort of merged and you like, 382 00:21:50,101 --> 00:21:50,661 try to be ahead of yourself. 383 00:21:50,661 --> 00:21:52,622 I think people should try it, just know that it would be better if you saved it. 384 00:21:52,622 --> 00:21:55,603 I also was just thinking that I think it had to be a YA book because only a 385 00:21:55,603 --> 00:22:00,965 teenager would like catfish a person to try and get answers and like have no 386 00:22:00,965 --> 00:22:05,666 qualms whatsoever, putting themselves in harm's way to get to the answers. 387 00:22:05,881 --> 00:22:09,504 only because that person is a bigger person. 388 00:22:09,504 --> 00:22:12,807 Well, like, I don't even know if that's my question. 389 00:22:12,807 --> 00:22:14,488 Have you experienced any stress this year? 390 00:22:14,488 --> 00:22:22,355 Yeah, it's so interesting because as he gets closer to his older brother, she 391 00:22:22,355 --> 00:22:26,618 realizes, like, this isn't really about the project anymore, this is about 392 00:22:26,618 --> 00:22:31,693 clearing his name, or at least getting the product to the defendant in advance. 393 00:22:31,693 --> 00:22:33,553 Cause the brother, his like, 394 00:22:33,746 --> 00:22:34,754 you know, worried. 395 00:22:34,754 --> 00:22:37,636 cry the whole time is that my brother wasn't like this. 396 00:22:37,636 --> 00:22:39,677 He would never do anything this selfish. 397 00:22:39,677 --> 00:22:42,099 And that's kind of how Pip feels too. 398 00:22:42,499 --> 00:22:47,362 And so they kind of have this like common understanding of like, okay, we both. 399 00:22:47,863 --> 00:22:51,745 Still think of him as the person that we knew him to be. 400 00:22:51,765 --> 00:22:57,068 And neither one of us has let like his death taint that and like, let's work 401 00:22:57,068 --> 00:22:58,249 together to figure it out. 402 00:22:58,249 --> 00:22:59,109 And so. 403 00:22:59,590 --> 00:23:04,013 the stakes keep getting higher and she keeps taking like bigger risks that have 404 00:23:04,013 --> 00:23:07,475 consequences that reach way beyond her. 405 00:23:07,716 --> 00:23:13,921 And there's definitely some parts that are a little like, I wouldn't say scary, but 406 00:23:13,921 --> 00:23:17,964 like you're kind of holding your breath like, oh, this might've been a really bad 407 00:23:17,964 --> 00:23:19,885 situation she got herself into. 408 00:23:20,126 --> 00:23:25,490 But then you understand, like she just gets this drive of like, I have to figure 409 00:23:25,490 --> 00:23:25,851 this out. 410 00:23:25,851 --> 00:23:29,673 Like we've come way too far to only go this far. 411 00:23:30,118 --> 00:23:37,982 Um, I did predict one, um, thing, like one, there was one person that I found sus 412 00:23:37,982 --> 00:23:44,406 from the start, um, and they, that ended up being a worthwhile investigation and as 413 00:23:44,406 --> 00:23:51,470 a reader for me, um, when I was reading it, I started thinking about the case 414 00:23:51,470 --> 00:23:53,251 slash show. 415 00:23:53,731 --> 00:23:57,713 Um, and I don't know if what, no. 416 00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:58,140 go. 417 00:23:58,140 --> 00:23:59,121 I was just thinking about what to do. 418 00:23:59,121 --> 00:24:00,761 Did I make a mistake? 419 00:24:00,761 --> 00:24:03,082 Did you want to spoil? 420 00:24:03,463 --> 00:24:05,564 I didn't, but you can spoil anything you need to. 421 00:24:05,564 --> 00:24:07,664 Okay, well, I did so. 422 00:24:07,664 --> 00:24:10,226 Based on what I've heard, this could happen, and I'm going to claim all that to 423 00:24:10,226 --> 00:24:10,966 be true. 424 00:24:11,086 --> 00:24:14,063 So basically, it was a case where you were on the wrong side. 425 00:24:14,063 --> 00:24:18,025 bullied her boyfriend via text message into killing himself. 426 00:24:18,646 --> 00:24:20,267 And she was convicted. 427 00:24:20,267 --> 00:24:24,582 And it was a really big deal because it was like, okay, this is like the first... 428 00:24:24,582 --> 00:24:29,663 big cyber bullying case where the person has been found guilty because there have 429 00:24:29,663 --> 00:24:34,004 been other instances of unfortunately teenagers killing themselves because they 430 00:24:34,004 --> 00:24:37,345 were egged on by classmates on the internet. 431 00:24:37,826 --> 00:24:43,347 And so they made a TV show out of it and Elle Fanning is absolutely outstanding in 432 00:24:43,347 --> 00:24:43,527 it. 433 00:24:43,527 --> 00:24:48,769 She is like, she's, she should have won some stuff in my opinion. 434 00:24:49,689 --> 00:24:50,469 But 435 00:24:50,714 --> 00:24:58,617 kind of the tone of it and seeing how the families are impacted and how it takes 436 00:24:58,617 --> 00:25:02,338 over the town and people make a lot of assumptions. 437 00:25:02,459 --> 00:25:10,182 The girl that has been missing perpetually, you find out a lot of things 438 00:25:10,182 --> 00:25:13,523 about her that you wouldn't know on surface level. 439 00:25:13,964 --> 00:25:18,985 I really feel like I only knew the surface level of that texting case. 440 00:25:19,086 --> 00:25:24,427 And then I watched the show and I was like, I see how it escalated now. 441 00:25:24,427 --> 00:25:28,849 And when I was reading good girls guide to murder, I was like, okay, this is the 442 00:25:28,849 --> 00:25:33,170 escalate that like teenagers are passionate and they don't have bills and 443 00:25:33,170 --> 00:25:37,232 they don't have jobs and they just are supposed to go to school and do their 444 00:25:37,232 --> 00:25:40,133 homework and pip has a car earn. 445 00:25:40,133 --> 00:25:42,553 No, maybe she doesn't have a car, but the brother does. 446 00:25:42,553 --> 00:25:43,373 And 447 00:25:43,514 --> 00:25:48,396 a film that's not a film, it's a film that's not a film. 448 00:25:48,396 --> 00:25:51,118 And you have to have a second to that. 449 00:25:51,118 --> 00:25:55,380 I mean, other people's are gonna be trying to air style. 450 00:25:55,380 --> 00:25:58,781 She's like, I'm gonna do whatever. 451 00:25:58,781 --> 00:26:00,342 Like, it can happen. 452 00:26:00,342 --> 00:26:01,162 I do know that. 453 00:26:01,162 --> 00:26:07,205 But, like, you know, if you manage to kind of, and you don't do something that 454 00:26:07,205 --> 00:26:08,545 actually 455 00:26:09,078 --> 00:26:13,701 Imagine your day ending at 2.05 and you're like, I just got the rest of the day to do 456 00:26:13,701 --> 00:26:14,508 whatever I want now. 457 00:26:14,508 --> 00:26:18,229 okay, I'm gonna go to my school. 458 00:26:18,229 --> 00:26:28,273 But, um, so, so if you like home school, if you like that like, kind of passionate, 459 00:26:28,273 --> 00:26:33,035 un-dirty, teenage stuff, you know that you're not gonna be a star. 460 00:26:33,035 --> 00:26:33,952 I think you are. 461 00:26:33,952 --> 00:26:36,833 I think you only read the first one, but I have both of them. 462 00:26:37,513 --> 00:26:40,054 Kathleen Hales, No One Else Can Have You. 463 00:26:40,075 --> 00:26:45,437 Do you remember Kippie Bushman is investigating her best friend's murder in 464 00:26:45,437 --> 00:26:47,058 small town Minnesota? 465 00:26:47,138 --> 00:26:48,559 Loved that book. 466 00:26:48,659 --> 00:26:49,479 Fantastic. 467 00:26:49,479 --> 00:26:55,642 Similar like precocious teenage girl trying to suss out who is actually at 468 00:26:55,642 --> 00:26:56,582 fault here. 469 00:26:57,782 --> 00:27:00,603 Um, there's a second book, I bought it. 470 00:27:00,843 --> 00:27:02,424 I haven't started it yet. 471 00:27:02,724 --> 00:27:10,549 And, um, essentially Pip and the brother whose name we should have maybe looked up. 472 00:27:12,070 --> 00:27:12,710 Ravi. 473 00:27:12,830 --> 00:27:13,590 Okay. 474 00:27:13,671 --> 00:27:17,893 So I think I said Ravi in my head the whole time I read it. 475 00:27:17,893 --> 00:27:18,233 Okay. 476 00:27:18,233 --> 00:27:19,514 Ravi, Ravi. 477 00:27:20,795 --> 00:27:26,197 He and Pip get approached to turn... 478 00:27:26,233 --> 00:27:28,814 their investigation into a podcast. 479 00:27:29,525 --> 00:27:30,400 and I guess 480 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:36,084 while that's happening, another case, somebody approaches them and is like, I 481 00:27:36,084 --> 00:27:37,264 need your help. 482 00:27:37,264 --> 00:27:39,285 And that's what the second book is about. 483 00:27:39,406 --> 00:27:44,809 And then Holly Jackson just came out with another book last week, or the first week 484 00:27:44,809 --> 00:27:45,769 of April. 485 00:27:46,510 --> 00:27:52,013 And that follows a whole different, I think, girl detective again. 486 00:27:52,706 --> 00:27:56,549 Um, and it seems like another similar, like this happened in my town and I'm 487 00:27:56,549 --> 00:27:58,210 going to get to the bottom of that kind of thing. 488 00:27:58,210 --> 00:28:00,792 And so I'm into it. 489 00:28:00,792 --> 00:28:01,693 I'm very into it. 490 00:28:01,693 --> 00:28:06,637 I, but again, I love, I love a female detective mayor of East town. 491 00:28:06,797 --> 00:28:07,938 Beautiful. 492 00:28:07,938 --> 00:28:09,018 Loved it. 493 00:28:09,279 --> 00:28:12,061 Um, I loved the latest season of true detective. 494 00:28:12,061 --> 00:28:17,525 Jodie Foster was amazing as was her counterpart whose name I can't think of. 495 00:28:17,706 --> 00:28:18,786 Oh my gosh. 496 00:28:19,087 --> 00:28:21,792 Um, Callie. 497 00:28:21,792 --> 00:28:22,713 From Rhode Island? 498 00:28:22,713 --> 00:28:23,714 I don't know. 499 00:28:26,417 --> 00:28:26,577 Yeah. 500 00:28:26,577 --> 00:28:26,818 Um, anyway. 501 00:28:26,818 --> 00:28:28,119 I just love Girl Protective. 502 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:33,345 So the idea of what these girls from like, these women were like as teenagers is kind 503 00:28:33,345 --> 00:28:35,067 of one layer out of it. 504 00:28:35,067 --> 00:28:37,677 And I can see why officers are like, cool. 505 00:28:37,677 --> 00:28:38,757 are precludes? 506 00:28:38,757 --> 00:28:39,398 Teenage, that is. 507 00:28:39,398 --> 00:28:41,539 This could be one of the adults. 508 00:28:42,020 --> 00:28:42,881 It is precludes. 509 00:28:42,881 --> 00:28:47,905 And I think some of us also think that we're not really that. 510 00:28:47,905 --> 00:28:50,687 It's more like, this was like, from a older age. 511 00:28:50,993 --> 00:28:54,215 And I was like, oh, well, like, who's going to come off of this? 512 00:28:54,215 --> 00:28:58,137 Like, the whole thing of like, you start to ponder on it, and you feel like you 513 00:28:58,137 --> 00:28:59,658 have to do something about it. 514 00:28:59,658 --> 00:29:01,539 And so I think it's kind of like a view of this thing. 515 00:29:01,539 --> 00:29:05,041 You get into the cafeteria, and you start to think this person, like, how did you do 516 00:29:05,041 --> 00:29:05,181 it? 517 00:29:05,181 --> 00:29:07,161 And I think that's really the question of this whole. 518 00:29:07,342 --> 00:29:15,588 And I just feel like it's fun to see when there's a good payoff for that. 519 00:29:15,588 --> 00:29:20,257 So it's one of those reasons where you're willing to take on the upfront learning 520 00:29:20,257 --> 00:29:21,138 curve. 521 00:29:21,846 --> 00:29:22,987 I thought it was fun. 522 00:29:22,987 --> 00:29:25,689 I thought it was an interesting read. 523 00:29:26,910 --> 00:29:28,511 There were a lot of twists. 524 00:29:28,511 --> 00:29:30,053 I only figured one of them out. 525 00:29:30,053 --> 00:29:32,094 I feel like that's pretty good for a YA book. 526 00:29:32,094 --> 00:29:37,158 Usually I kind of have pieced it together like halfway through. 527 00:29:37,158 --> 00:29:39,019 That did not happen with this book. 528 00:29:40,180 --> 00:29:42,293 So I thought it was a good one. 529 00:29:42,293 --> 00:29:43,614 I'm excited to see it. 530 00:29:43,614 --> 00:29:45,194 Is it a movie or a show? 531 00:29:45,214 --> 00:29:45,634 Do we know? 532 00:29:45,634 --> 00:29:47,555 actually don't know. 533 00:29:47,555 --> 00:29:54,341 I will look it up. 534 00:29:54,341 --> 00:29:59,805 Well, the cover has the red string, which style Stolinski, a nice little hat tip to 535 00:29:59,805 --> 00:30:00,424 him. 536 00:30:00,424 --> 00:30:01,024 the rest of the print, right? 537 00:30:01,024 --> 00:30:01,785 So I was once a... 538 00:30:01,785 --> 00:30:05,549 Yeah, I'm not as big a true crime junkie as the two of you, but I will say in 539 00:30:05,549 --> 00:30:09,494 reading this, which happens to me anytime I read these kinds of stories, I just 540 00:30:09,494 --> 00:30:10,254 become so... 541 00:30:10,254 --> 00:30:15,694 become so disillusioned with the justice system in the way that I'm like... 542 00:30:15,694 --> 00:30:19,097 I can't stop thinking about it like for days after I finished reading this I Was 543 00:30:19,097 --> 00:30:23,320 like good god I hope I never go missing or turn up like murdered in a random place 544 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,699 because no one will do the right thing and like Search until they find the truth 545 00:30:26,699 --> 00:30:27,379 no one will do that. 546 00:30:27,379 --> 00:30:28,420 They can like search until they find the drink. 547 00:30:28,420 --> 00:30:32,381 See, and I think to myself, my sister will be the person who figures out who killed 548 00:30:32,381 --> 00:30:32,501 me. 549 00:30:32,501 --> 00:30:33,922 Well, just, yeah. 550 00:30:34,682 --> 00:30:35,286 Yeah, exactly. 551 00:30:35,286 --> 00:30:42,911 But I feel like when I read it, truly, for many days after, I was like, mm-mm. 552 00:30:42,911 --> 00:30:47,574 And I think I have watched a few of the documentaries or docu-series that you guys 553 00:30:47,574 --> 00:30:52,618 have turned me onto about real-life crimes that were later on solved or reopened and 554 00:30:52,618 --> 00:30:53,458 whatnot. 555 00:30:53,738 --> 00:30:58,261 And you can't help but just be like, if it isn't for that one squeaky wheel person, 556 00:30:59,002 --> 00:31:01,583 so-and-so just would have gotten away with this. 557 00:31:04,894 --> 00:31:05,094 series. 558 00:31:05,094 --> 00:31:08,855 So if the casting of this is oh yeah this is definitely correct. 559 00:31:08,855 --> 00:31:10,456 So they've already started filming it. 560 00:31:10,456 --> 00:31:13,777 It's the BBC that's putting it together as a series. 561 00:31:14,457 --> 00:31:16,625 Because Holly Jackson is not American by the way. 562 00:31:16,625 --> 00:31:18,606 is called polyamory, so they're not just trying to tell you that it's the beef to 563 00:31:18,606 --> 00:31:19,486 seed it when it's together, it's serious. 564 00:31:19,486 --> 00:31:20,287 It's always actually a problem for us. 565 00:31:20,287 --> 00:31:20,787 Now I feel like an idiot. 566 00:31:20,787 --> 00:31:21,567 Did it take place in the US? 567 00:31:21,567 --> 00:31:22,268 It took place in the US. 568 00:31:22,268 --> 00:31:23,608 Oh, oh yeah, okay. 569 00:31:24,329 --> 00:31:26,635 I just always assume that everything takes place in the US. 570 00:31:26,635 --> 00:31:27,666 Oh. 571 00:31:27,666 --> 00:31:31,508 so Maul, I'm definitely going to send you some photos that I just found from the guy 572 00:31:31,508 --> 00:31:33,349 that's playing Ravi Ravi. 573 00:31:35,011 --> 00:31:40,174 Very good looking person, first of all, and second of all, he had it's from the 574 00:31:40,174 --> 00:31:42,976 set that he's posted these so it's kind of fun. 575 00:31:42,976 --> 00:31:46,092 Yeah, and you get to see Pip and it's fun. 576 00:31:46,092 --> 00:31:46,753 Cool. 577 00:31:46,753 --> 00:31:48,573 So I'll tell you a couple of things. 578 00:31:48,573 --> 00:31:53,995 I wasn't picturing like certain people for every single set, and you were like, I was 579 00:31:53,995 --> 00:31:58,596 picturing a series of people coming by. 580 00:31:58,676 --> 00:32:06,218 And then, for example, I myself, I was picturing that picture of his previous 581 00:32:06,218 --> 00:32:06,613 movie, 582 00:32:06,613 --> 00:32:08,435 boyfriend in Never Have I Ever. 583 00:32:08,435 --> 00:32:09,055 I mean. 584 00:32:09,347 --> 00:32:10,208 Oh yeah. 585 00:32:11,993 --> 00:32:12,874 Yeah. 586 00:32:14,138 --> 00:32:15,079 I can see it. 587 00:32:15,420 --> 00:32:17,662 Anyway, Caitlin will show me who's actually playing these people. 588 00:32:17,662 --> 00:32:25,649 But yeah, I bet it will be great as a on screen story. 589 00:32:25,649 --> 00:32:26,736 Oh my God, really cute. 590 00:32:26,736 --> 00:32:27,177 little dog. 591 00:32:27,177 --> 00:32:29,278 Yeah, he's a cute little dog. 592 00:32:29,278 --> 00:32:31,099 His name is... 593 00:32:31,940 --> 00:32:36,163 Well, his first name is Aiden, and he's lost in this because I don't think this 594 00:32:36,163 --> 00:32:39,365 animal is actually lost in this. 595 00:32:39,365 --> 00:32:40,234 We'll share some videos. 596 00:32:40,234 --> 00:32:43,080 for those who might be interested in the film version. 597 00:32:45,666 --> 00:32:48,129 Emma Myers is the girl that's playing Pip. 598 00:32:48,129 --> 00:32:50,512 That was gonna drive me cuckoo bananas. 599 00:32:50,713 --> 00:32:52,334 Her name is Emma Myers. 600 00:32:52,555 --> 00:32:53,956 What's everybody reading? 601 00:32:55,288 --> 00:33:00,432 I am reading a Reese's book club book that a college friend of mine had posted on 602 00:33:00,432 --> 00:33:05,376 Good Reads months ago and I trust him inherently so I went out and purchased the 603 00:33:05,376 --> 00:33:06,377 hardcover. 604 00:33:06,377 --> 00:33:08,638 I don't know what has come over me recently. 605 00:33:08,919 --> 00:33:11,741 It is called Did You Hear About Katie Carr? 606 00:33:11,741 --> 00:33:13,562 It's by Crystal Smith-Paul. 607 00:33:14,043 --> 00:33:15,423 I have no idea if this is optioned. 608 00:33:15,423 --> 00:33:17,364 I hope it is because I think it would be beautiful. 609 00:33:17,364 --> 00:33:19,524 So it's a story in two parts. 610 00:33:20,604 --> 00:33:26,386 The quote unquote present day is 2017 and it's in Hollywood and there is this family 611 00:33:26,386 --> 00:33:32,888 that is apprised of an actress and a musician producer and they have three 612 00:33:32,888 --> 00:33:39,330 adult daughters who are in their like late 20s, early 30s and all three girls have 613 00:33:39,330 --> 00:33:40,970 come home to their like. 614 00:33:41,031 --> 00:33:44,934 family mega mansion in the Hollywood Hills because our next door neighbor, Kitty 615 00:33:44,934 --> 00:33:47,076 Carr, who was sort of like a... 616 00:33:48,744 --> 00:33:48,884 family. 617 00:33:48,884 --> 00:33:53,426 You keep saying that and I keep hearing Katie car which is a person that I know 618 00:33:53,426 --> 00:33:58,487 it's a guy that I went to high school with his mom's name is that and I keep and she 619 00:33:58,487 --> 00:34:02,228 like they live right by our school so like she would be around on her bike and stuff 620 00:34:02,228 --> 00:34:05,809 all the time and I'm like every time you say that I'm like wait a minute what 621 00:34:05,851 --> 00:34:07,474 Meanwhile, Richard's very sad. 622 00:34:07,474 --> 00:34:08,916 I'm going to get you a picture of him in the car. 623 00:34:08,916 --> 00:34:09,362 Thank you. 624 00:34:09,362 --> 00:34:10,642 by a kitty cat. 625 00:34:12,379 --> 00:34:14,008 She's the worm in the apple car. 626 00:34:14,008 --> 00:34:16,650 She's the worst. 627 00:34:16,650 --> 00:34:17,310 I'm not even gonna lie. 628 00:34:17,310 --> 00:34:21,873 No, she's sort of like a Elizabeth Taylor type person. 629 00:34:21,873 --> 00:34:26,037 Like she was like a starlet in her heyday and then she became sort of like an 630 00:34:26,037 --> 00:34:30,280 eccentric woman who lived next door to them, has like a labyrinth garden in the 631 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:30,820 backyard. 632 00:34:30,820 --> 00:34:36,324 Anyways, she has just passed and left her $600 million estate to the three young 633 00:34:36,324 --> 00:34:37,184 women. 634 00:34:37,645 --> 00:34:39,886 And everyone is sort of like. 635 00:34:40,367 --> 00:34:41,247 asking questions. 636 00:34:41,247 --> 00:34:45,688 Variety wants to have an interview with one of the daughters to suss out why the 637 00:34:45,688 --> 00:34:48,489 three of them ended up with the fortune because they're not related. 638 00:34:48,489 --> 00:34:49,829 They're just neighbors. 639 00:34:50,109 --> 00:34:55,771 Then in the past, we go back to 1930s and I think we're in North Carolina and this 640 00:34:55,771 --> 00:35:02,012 girl Hazel, her entire family, she's grown up as a sharecropper family. 641 00:35:02,012 --> 00:35:05,733 They all die in a boat drowning. 642 00:35:06,094 --> 00:35:09,674 She gets taken in by this young woman who... 643 00:35:09,883 --> 00:35:12,424 works for this wealthy white family. 644 00:35:12,424 --> 00:35:14,726 So she starts working at the house as well. 645 00:35:14,826 --> 00:35:20,410 And she gets earmuffs for any children that might be listening to this. 646 00:35:20,410 --> 00:35:24,653 She gets raped by their son and has the child. 647 00:35:24,653 --> 00:35:28,956 And the child, she realizes quickly can pass as white. 648 00:35:28,956 --> 00:35:33,139 So on the weekends, they had to Winston's Salem, Winston's Salem. 649 00:35:34,980 --> 00:35:35,741 Yes. 650 00:35:35,741 --> 00:35:38,188 Which is like a two hour bus ride from where they are. 651 00:35:38,188 --> 00:35:39,609 And she had a club. 652 00:35:39,609 --> 00:35:41,270 So like, it was a club. 653 00:35:41,270 --> 00:35:42,731 She was like, I don't know what you call it. 654 00:35:42,731 --> 00:35:43,892 Like, an inn. 655 00:35:43,892 --> 00:35:45,693 She was like, that's the mother. 656 00:35:45,693 --> 00:35:48,782 So we were all trying to figure out what was going on. 657 00:35:48,782 --> 00:35:52,563 whites only department store and whatever. 658 00:35:52,563 --> 00:35:59,285 And so I have my suspicions of how this is gonna all kind of come together, but I 659 00:35:59,285 --> 00:36:04,026 almost don't care at this point because both stories are so different. 660 00:36:04,054 --> 00:36:09,275 For like present day stuff, it's like, it's like, how is this going to work? 661 00:36:09,275 --> 00:36:14,159 and like the mother clearly has like an eating disorder, um, and is stressed about 662 00:36:14,159 --> 00:36:17,782 her Halloween themed party that is going to coincide with the funeral. 663 00:36:17,782 --> 00:36:23,606 It's like very like at odds with each other, but they're both beautiful stories 664 00:36:23,606 --> 00:36:24,827 in their own right. 665 00:36:24,827 --> 00:36:29,211 And so I'm, I mean, it's like a thick book and I'm only quarter way into it. 666 00:36:29,211 --> 00:36:29,952 I'm loving it. 667 00:36:29,952 --> 00:36:33,914 It's I understand why it's on Reese's book club. 668 00:36:34,035 --> 00:36:35,579 So I will pass it along. 669 00:36:35,579 --> 00:36:37,083 Maybe we'll do an episode, who knows? 670 00:36:37,083 --> 00:36:38,566 We'll see if you guys like it too. 671 00:36:40,874 --> 00:36:42,194 I can go next. 672 00:36:42,654 --> 00:36:48,377 I am reading a book called on basketball and dissension. 673 00:36:48,597 --> 00:36:54,579 Neither of these two fine women are going to read this book, I think it's by Hanif. 674 00:36:55,260 --> 00:36:56,680 I don't know how to say Hanif last name. 675 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,721 I think it's Adarabh Keeb. 676 00:36:59,282 --> 00:37:01,182 I butchered that I'm so sorry, Hanif. 677 00:37:01,182 --> 00:37:05,784 But anyways, Hanif, I don't know how to explain him. 678 00:37:05,784 --> 00:37:07,485 He's from Columbus. 679 00:37:09,779 --> 00:37:10,899 Sorry, is this memoir? 680 00:37:10,899 --> 00:37:11,219 Like what? 681 00:37:11,219 --> 00:37:16,262 I have, it's like the best things. 682 00:37:16,262 --> 00:37:16,422 Oh, okay. 683 00:37:16,422 --> 00:37:16,842 He does these books. 684 00:37:16,842 --> 00:37:18,624 This is like his third or fourth book that I've read. 685 00:37:18,624 --> 00:37:23,726 He does books where he's promoted his social solidarity and solidarity from his 686 00:37:23,726 --> 00:37:27,468 perspective on being a black Muslim man in the United States. 687 00:37:27,468 --> 00:37:30,110 He's run for office, he's always running for office. 688 00:37:30,190 --> 00:37:31,911 He's a part of the U.S. 689 00:37:32,291 --> 00:37:35,533 He did go to college. 690 00:37:36,313 --> 00:37:37,154 His mom passed away. 691 00:37:37,154 --> 00:37:38,334 He made a new book. 692 00:37:38,345 --> 00:37:40,445 He's one of five kids, I think. 693 00:37:41,882 --> 00:37:45,643 And he just has really interesting things to say. 694 00:37:45,643 --> 00:37:49,245 Like people kind of have joked around him and like he's the black Chuck Klosterman, 695 00:37:49,245 --> 00:37:54,787 but like, no, that's like, that's cheapening it, I think. 696 00:37:54,947 --> 00:37:59,909 Um, he has one book that's called, They Can't Kill Us Until They Kill Us, and it's 697 00:37:59,909 --> 00:38:06,112 basically like him interspersing like ideas about life and his experiences with 698 00:38:06,112 --> 00:38:08,193 like music criticism. 699 00:38:08,553 --> 00:38:09,973 This one's about. 700 00:38:10,042 --> 00:38:15,188 like coming of age, but he also uses basketball as like a metaphor throughout 701 00:38:15,188 --> 00:38:15,828 it. 702 00:38:17,711 --> 00:38:21,216 He has another one that was literally every single essay was about a tribe 703 00:38:21,216 --> 00:38:22,417 called Quest. 704 00:38:22,477 --> 00:38:26,041 He has another one that got nominated for 705 00:38:27,802 --> 00:38:31,182 It was a, I think it might've been a finalist for the Pulitzer, but it was a 706 00:38:31,182 --> 00:38:33,503 finalist for the National Book Award and a couple of other ones. 707 00:38:33,503 --> 00:38:37,444 And it was all about black performance, like through history. 708 00:38:37,824 --> 00:38:41,065 So he just like, he has a really interesting perspective. 709 00:38:41,065 --> 00:38:43,126 He knows a ton about music. 710 00:38:43,466 --> 00:38:45,926 He's a great follow on social media. 711 00:38:46,227 --> 00:38:52,308 Um, he is just, there's nobody else out there writing like him. 712 00:38:52,308 --> 00:38:53,969 He's just really interesting. 713 00:38:53,989 --> 00:38:56,029 The first chapter of this book. 714 00:38:56,029 --> 00:38:57,429 He talks about. 715 00:38:58,390 --> 00:39:03,312 it ends up being about like haircuts and identity and first love but he starts off 716 00:39:03,312 --> 00:39:10,216 by talking about the in the 90s there is this group of five freshmen starters for 717 00:39:10,216 --> 00:39:14,538 the University of Michigan's basketball team and they were like, like Jalen Rose 718 00:39:14,538 --> 00:39:20,101 was one of them and like, they all came in together and like, had completely like 719 00:39:20,101 --> 00:39:24,664 bald heads and it was like a power move of like, we don't even need hair and like, 720 00:39:24,664 --> 00:39:26,664 we're studs like whatever. 721 00:39:26,925 --> 00:39:28,190 And then that like, 722 00:39:28,190 --> 00:39:31,973 kind of like resonates throughout the whole essay about like hair and the 723 00:39:31,973 --> 00:39:34,776 importance of hair and whether or not you need it. 724 00:39:34,776 --> 00:39:36,817 What does it say if you don't have it? 725 00:39:38,279 --> 00:39:42,022 It's just really interesting and then it turns into like he's dating this girl and 726 00:39:42,022 --> 00:39:47,768 both of them have lost their mom so then like wigs come into play like he just he 727 00:39:47,768 --> 00:39:50,210 takes a topic and just like weaves it. 728 00:39:50,210 --> 00:39:51,851 It's unbelievable. 729 00:39:52,852 --> 00:39:54,413 Anyways that's what I'm reading. 730 00:39:55,928 --> 00:39:58,168 from high brow to low brow. 731 00:40:01,130 --> 00:40:08,895 I just finished this book that Steph loaned to me called Done and Dusted. 732 00:40:08,895 --> 00:40:11,416 Oh yes, on one of your many bookstore outings. 733 00:40:12,177 --> 00:40:14,458 Done and Dusted is by Lila Sage. 734 00:40:14,718 --> 00:40:15,819 It's a fiction book. 735 00:40:15,819 --> 00:40:17,079 It's about... 736 00:40:18,032 --> 00:40:23,615 A woman who is a barrel racer gets thrown from a horse, has a very traumatic 737 00:40:23,615 --> 00:40:28,357 experience and comes home to her family's ranch in Montana to kind of recoup and try 738 00:40:28,357 --> 00:40:29,197 to like... 739 00:40:30,398 --> 00:40:32,079 Oh, I'm sorry, Wyoming. 740 00:40:32,660 --> 00:40:34,660 How dare I make that mistake? 741 00:40:35,141 --> 00:40:38,563 It's called Meadowlark, which is I think where the M came in my head. 742 00:40:39,243 --> 00:40:42,745 So she comes home to Wyoming to kind of like get her bearings again. 743 00:40:42,965 --> 00:40:45,086 And a surprise to no one, she falls in love. 744 00:40:45,256 --> 00:40:50,219 part, we try to get her thoughts together, but this is not the case in some records. 745 00:40:50,219 --> 00:40:54,293 How do you try to get them together as a whole piece of content? 746 00:40:54,293 --> 00:40:56,874 when she was like knocked sideways off the horse? 747 00:40:56,874 --> 00:40:58,124 Did that bother you at all? 748 00:40:58,124 --> 00:41:00,226 there are holes in this story for sure. 749 00:41:00,226 --> 00:41:06,169 And also she is like number one ranked in her like age group, her demographic, 750 00:41:06,169 --> 00:41:06,549 whatever. 751 00:41:06,549 --> 00:41:11,592 And no one is concerned that she just like abandoned the tour and like there, yeah, 752 00:41:11,592 --> 00:41:12,852 there are a lot of holes. 753 00:41:12,853 --> 00:41:18,596 So she comes home and winds up really falling for her older brother's best 754 00:41:18,596 --> 00:41:19,096 friend. 755 00:41:19,096 --> 00:41:23,098 They have like, you know, an antagonistic history from childhood. 756 00:41:23,338 --> 00:41:25,619 Um, but their romance. 757 00:41:25,864 --> 00:41:27,705 was very, very fun to follow. 758 00:41:27,705 --> 00:41:31,407 And I had read like, I don't know, 30 pages maybe before I got on the plane to 759 00:41:31,407 --> 00:41:31,888 Charleston. 760 00:41:31,888 --> 00:41:36,150 And then I read the entire rest of the book on this hour and 55 minute flight. 761 00:41:38,192 --> 00:41:39,233 I really loved it. 762 00:41:39,233 --> 00:41:41,895 Like, is it the best writing of all time? 763 00:41:41,895 --> 00:41:44,036 It is not, but it was very, very fun. 764 00:41:44,036 --> 00:41:52,161 And I was picturing certain people in my head as both. 765 00:41:52,462 --> 00:41:55,263 Her name's Clementine, but she goes by Emmy. 766 00:41:55,388 --> 00:41:59,452 Emmy and Luke and so I had these like visuals in my head and I was picturing 767 00:41:59,452 --> 00:42:08,440 Luke as Glenn Powell from yes Top Gun from Top Gun and from Anyone But You and a 768 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,622 million other movies that he's recently been in. 769 00:42:11,443 --> 00:42:15,647 But then I read this Q&A with the author at the very end and I need to share this 770 00:42:15,647 --> 00:42:16,387 with you. 771 00:42:17,115 --> 00:42:19,776 I know you can always count on me to read whatever's in the back of the book. 772 00:42:20,537 --> 00:42:23,939 So the person asking the Q and A, which I assume is like the publisher said, you say 773 00:42:23,939 --> 00:42:27,721 you drew inspiration for Luke from Friday night lights. 774 00:42:27,821 --> 00:42:31,103 Did you have any other inspirations when creating the characters and done and 775 00:42:31,103 --> 00:42:31,583 dusted? 776 00:42:31,583 --> 00:42:35,546 And she says, I always joke that Luke is Tim Riggins. 777 00:42:35,546 --> 00:42:39,208 If he grew up, washed his hair and got a savings account. 778 00:42:39,808 --> 00:42:42,029 And I was like, okay, well now I have a different visual. 779 00:42:42,150 --> 00:42:43,310 Also in the Q and A. 780 00:42:43,310 --> 00:42:44,511 the whole story. 781 00:42:44,711 --> 00:42:52,537 They asked her, which author she admired, what stories really moved her and you guys 782 00:42:52,537 --> 00:42:53,013 were going to tell. 783 00:42:53,013 --> 00:42:56,954 because these are like our favorites so she says some of my favorite books are 784 00:42:56,954 --> 00:43:03,836 love is a mixtape by rob sheffield ninth house me too ninth house by lee bardugo 785 00:43:05,557 --> 00:43:11,678 eldest by christopher pallini getaway girl by tessa bailey writers and lovers by lily 786 00:43:11,678 --> 00:43:12,418 king 787 00:43:12,519 --> 00:43:14,263 and of course, be true to my heart. 788 00:43:14,263 --> 00:43:14,744 Henry. 789 00:43:14,744 --> 00:43:19,066 But more recently, I've fallen in love with Helen Hall and Ashley Poston, Riley 790 00:43:19,066 --> 00:43:20,786 Sager, and Abby Jimenez. 791 00:43:20,786 --> 00:43:22,907 To me, these authors are absolute masters 792 00:43:22,907 --> 00:43:25,972 their craft and I can't wait to read everything they write for the rest of 793 00:43:25,972 --> 00:43:26,732 forever. 794 00:43:27,431 --> 00:43:29,193 So I read that Lily King book. 795 00:43:29,193 --> 00:43:30,594 I don't even know if I've finished it. 796 00:43:30,594 --> 00:43:31,915 I'll answer you. 797 00:43:31,915 --> 00:43:33,477 Oh, the writers and lovers? 798 00:43:33,477 --> 00:43:34,357 I have to... 799 00:43:34,357 --> 00:43:35,858 I don't think I've read it. 800 00:43:36,279 --> 00:43:36,980 It's in your require. 801 00:43:36,980 --> 00:43:38,021 I know, I know, I didn't get into it. 802 00:43:38,021 --> 00:43:38,901 I don't know. 803 00:43:39,212 --> 00:43:40,087 I don't know what happened. 804 00:43:40,087 --> 00:43:43,749 she was like, I've become obsessed with Helen Huang, which I just spoke about that 805 00:43:43,749 --> 00:43:48,252 at length, Ashley Poston, author of Seven Years Slip, Riley Sagar, which you guys 806 00:43:48,252 --> 00:43:49,493 just finished one of those. 807 00:43:49,493 --> 00:43:51,488 I mean, this is like our reading list. 808 00:43:51,488 --> 00:43:53,689 with Poe and Hoang, which I just spoke about, Ashley Frost in an author of Seven 809 00:43:53,689 --> 00:43:55,191 Years' Look, Riley Stegar, would you guys just finish my book? 810 00:43:55,191 --> 00:43:56,232 I mean, this is like our reading list. 811 00:43:56,232 --> 00:43:57,392 When I read that book, first of all, I loved it. 812 00:43:57,392 --> 00:43:58,433 It's not perfect, and that's okay. 813 00:43:58,433 --> 00:44:02,317 But also, I can just tell how much she loves Wyoming, and I immediately was like, 814 00:44:02,317 --> 00:44:03,337 I want to be friends with her. 815 00:44:03,337 --> 00:44:05,719 I think we could be on so many levels. 816 00:44:07,421 --> 00:44:08,701 I'm forgetting. 817 00:44:08,867 --> 00:44:11,368 got motion, correct? 818 00:44:11,368 --> 00:44:15,251 It did get motion. 819 00:44:15,251 --> 00:44:25,797 I just wanted to make sure that we could share it with the public. 820 00:44:25,797 --> 00:44:27,718 And there currently two of them out there to come in and to ask for a comment out of 821 00:44:27,718 --> 00:44:29,179 somebody and she was just like talking without yes. 822 00:44:29,179 --> 00:44:30,300 And she was just like, I'm sorry. 823 00:44:30,300 --> 00:44:30,645 I'm sorry. 824 00:44:30,645 --> 00:44:32,386 the two most people in the city that I've ever seen on the internet. 825 00:44:32,386 --> 00:44:34,006 Yeah, so she's under 30, which is like, what? 826 00:44:34,286 --> 00:44:35,346 But also... 827 00:44:35,479 --> 00:44:36,219 I need to share. 828 00:44:36,219 --> 00:44:38,840 I said this to Steph in a text. 829 00:44:38,860 --> 00:44:43,323 I was recently telling my friend Emily, meet and friend, shout out to Emily, that 830 00:44:43,323 --> 00:44:46,984 I was reading this book and I was like, I just finished a great book. 831 00:44:46,984 --> 00:44:47,745 I think you would love it. 832 00:44:47,745 --> 00:44:51,446 It's called Done and Dusted to which she said, is that about cleaning? 833 00:44:55,201 --> 00:44:59,545 Uh, no, no it's not. 834 00:44:59,681 --> 00:45:03,844 I said, no, that is about being thrown off of a horse. 835 00:45:04,705 --> 00:45:05,706 It's not about cleaning. 836 00:45:05,706 --> 00:45:07,807 It's not an Amelia Bedelia book. 837 00:45:08,408 --> 00:45:16,835 So if you're interested in Wyoming or the West or cowboy romances, also this is very 838 00:45:16,835 --> 00:45:17,696 small townie. 839 00:45:17,696 --> 00:45:21,819 So like if you like a Gilmore Girls type vibe, it does also have that kind of same 840 00:45:21,819 --> 00:45:24,822 energy and there's all kinds of people in the town who have been there forever and 841 00:45:24,822 --> 00:45:25,482 ever. 842 00:45:26,776 --> 00:45:29,538 to explain that. 843 00:45:29,538 --> 00:45:32,080 Yeah I mean I'll talk to them and talk to them. 844 00:45:37,344 --> 00:45:40,486 We already tried to buy the second one and they didn't have it. 845 00:45:40,827 --> 00:45:41,707 Remember? 846 00:45:43,428 --> 00:45:44,488 Correct. 847 00:45:44,996 --> 00:45:48,697 I also just love they're all like alliterative, which I just think makes it 848 00:45:48,697 --> 00:45:49,057 more fun. 849 00:45:49,057 --> 00:45:50,598 Also, the colors are awesome. 850 00:45:50,598 --> 00:45:50,738 Yeah. 851 00:45:50,738 --> 00:45:51,218 They're so campy here. 852 00:45:51,218 --> 00:45:58,461 Like, the colors are old, Western, but like, they're not really different from 853 00:45:58,461 --> 00:45:58,581 these. 854 00:45:58,581 --> 00:46:00,061 Yeah, they're very like frameable. 855 00:46:00,061 --> 00:46:00,241 I know. 856 00:46:00,241 --> 00:46:03,322 I want to tell you how it looks. 857 00:46:03,322 --> 00:46:04,144 It's those... 858 00:46:04,144 --> 00:46:05,624 that are going to be in the next books. 859 00:46:05,624 --> 00:46:07,188 Because it's all, you know. 860 00:46:07,188 --> 00:46:08,708 Yes, which is great. 861 00:46:11,431 --> 00:46:12,531 Yes, exactly. 862 00:46:12,531 --> 00:46:13,132 Exactly. 863 00:46:13,132 --> 00:46:19,957 And in the acknowledgments, I think that she did already know that the next one was 864 00:46:19,957 --> 00:46:23,439 going to be coming out because she says, you know, and I'm so grateful that I'm 865 00:46:23,439 --> 00:46:26,661 going to get the chance to tell the story of you know, so on, so on, so on. 866 00:46:27,382 --> 00:46:31,125 So I think each one of the next installments follows a different sibling 867 00:46:31,125 --> 00:46:31,752 in the family. 868 00:46:31,752 --> 00:46:32,532 a different facility. 869 00:46:32,532 --> 00:46:32,632 Yeah. 870 00:46:32,632 --> 00:46:36,613 I also just really love that like her origin story is that she self-published 871 00:46:36,613 --> 00:46:37,553 that book. 872 00:46:37,962 --> 00:46:42,889 and then got traditionally published because it did so well, which just like 873 00:46:43,290 --> 00:46:45,898 gives the layman hope, you know? 874 00:46:45,898 --> 00:46:49,761 that she saw for the cat book and then after this one published, we have a piece 875 00:46:49,761 --> 00:46:51,082 called, which just gives a light and hope. 876 00:46:51,082 --> 00:46:51,302 Absolutely. 877 00:46:51,302 --> 00:46:51,963 Do we know... 878 00:46:51,963 --> 00:46:54,965 It's not a trope, but do we know what it's called when an author makes a series out 879 00:46:54,965 --> 00:46:57,787 of the side characters from the first book? 880 00:46:58,588 --> 00:47:00,149 Is that called something? 881 00:47:00,150 --> 00:47:03,197 Because it also reminds me of the motorcycle books that I made you read. 882 00:47:03,197 --> 00:47:03,277 you. 883 00:47:03,277 --> 00:47:06,299 And also, for those who read the Jasmin and Tory books, there's always 884 00:47:06,299 --> 00:47:16,247 cross-border public events from the previous installment. 885 00:47:16,247 --> 00:47:16,467 Well, T.O. 886 00:47:16,467 --> 00:47:17,407 Williams did it too. 887 00:47:17,407 --> 00:47:17,568 Yes, T.O. 888 00:47:17,568 --> 00:47:20,527 Williams also worked with the... 889 00:47:20,527 --> 00:47:25,490 from the character from 70s in June reappeared in Love Song for Ricky Wilde. 890 00:47:26,130 --> 00:47:26,810 Um, 891 00:47:27,023 --> 00:47:30,852 If you all want to follow what we're reading, what we're excited about, an 892 00:47:30,852 --> 00:47:35,442 incredible amount of hilarious memes and reels, please follow us on Instagram. 893 00:47:35,656 --> 00:47:37,719 I have two personal links. 894 00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:43,425 It's called, yes, we'll share the sound of Tony on Instagram. 895 00:47:43,425 --> 00:47:44,987 Let's see if I can really do that. 896 00:47:44,987 --> 00:47:45,747 But. 897 00:47:46,291 --> 00:47:48,053 give a follow at plansarebooked. 898 00:47:48,053 --> 00:47:52,099 You can also shoot us a note to plan We love to hear from you. 899 00:47:52,099 --> 00:47:54,562 We want to know what you're reading, what you think we should be reading, and the 900 00:47:54,562 --> 00:47:56,324 ideas for upcoming episode topics. 901 00:47:56,324 --> 00:47:57,887 We are delighted to hear your 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