The Change Ladder: Why You Can’t Skip the Rungs

In this episode of the KLT Fitcast, Kate and Josh break down why change, especially around fitness, nutrition, and lifestyle feels so hard, and why most people aren’t failing… they’re just using the wrong tools at the wrong time.

Using the Stages of Change model, they walk through pre-contemplation, contemplation, planning, action, maintenance, and the often-misunderstood “relapse” (or as they prefer, recycling old habits). They explain how gym anxiety, avoidance, perfectionism, all-or-nothing thinking, and fear of failure keep people stuck and what actually helps them move forward.

What is KLT FITCAST?

The KLT FITCAST is where fitness meets resilience, real-life transformation, and community connection. Hosted by Kate; who lost 150 pounds and built herself into a personal trainer, gym owner and marathoner; and Josh, a mental health social worker who has his own fitness journey and unique perspective. This podcast brings together raw conversations about health, mindset, and the power of community. Each episode offers practical strategies, struggles, stories of growth, and a deeper look inside the KLT Fit family.