WEBVTT 00:00:05.520 --> 00:00:06.640 I'm Pete Wright. 00:00:06.640 --> 00:00:08.000 And I'm Andy Nelson. 00:00:08.000 --> 00:00:10.080 Welcome to the next reel. When the movie ends 00:00:10.320 --> 00:00:11.920 Our conversation begins. 00:00:12.320 --> 00:00:17.995 Pitt and the pendulum is over. Elizabeth was quite dead. I'd stake my reputation on it. 00:00:24.635 --> 00:00:42.795 This was my father's world, mister Barnett. The shrieking of mutilated victims became the music of his life. The blood of a thousand men and women was spilled within these walls. Limbs twisted and broken, flesh burned black. 00:00:45.115 --> 00:01:02.970 Starring Vincent Price, truly a master of the macabre. John Carr, in a challenging role. Barbara Steele, more blood chilling than in Black Sunday. And introducing, taunting Luana Anders. Nicolas. 00:01:04.010 --> 00:01:04.890 Elizabeth. 00:01:05.450 --> 00:01:15.715 Is that you, Elizabeth? While we were up here mourning her, she was alive, 00:01:16.995 --> 00:01:18.595 struggling to be free. 00:01:18.995 --> 00:01:35.180 You are lying, sir. When Maria screamed, where were you? You lie. I'm going to torture you, Isabelle. I'm going to make you suffer for your faithlessness to me. 00:01:37.660 --> 00:01:56.740 You hate it. All the violence of angry seas, the unseen forces of the unknown, the unforgettable memories of a long forgotten childhood. All these you will feel in your very blood. 00:02:01.620 --> 00:02:06.605 Do you know where you are, Bartolome? You are about to enter hell. 00:02:31.370 --> 00:02:36.385 Can I tell you my first quibble with this movie, Andy? 00:02:36.385 --> 00:02:37.505 Yes, please. 00:02:37.745 --> 00:02:41.585 Do you know what it is? I've already dropped a brown m and m for you. 00:02:41.585 --> 00:02:44.305 Oh, I know what it is. And I do you want me to say? 00:02:44.625 --> 00:02:45.265 Yeah. 00:02:45.585 --> 00:02:52.300 It's the fact that all the marketing has the pit and the pendulum, but what the movie starts is just pit and the pendulum. 00:02:52.940 --> 00:03:16.530 It's even I'd screenshotted that so that I could litigate that with you. And then I went even the trailer. I'm on the IMDb page, and I paused the trailer, and it's called Edgar Allan Poe's pit and the pendulum next to the poster that says the pit and the pendulum. Who is doing this in 1961? Why would you leave that splinter in my brain? 00:03:16.530 --> 00:03:34.885 I had a film professor back in college who had decided on his own that the way that the film's title should always end up living ever like, once the film is made is how it appears in the film itself. 00:03:34.885 --> 00:03:35.285 Yes. 00:03:35.285 --> 00:03:47.390 And so that is his definitive version. Now, he took it a little far, like Gone With the Wind, he said, it's written in all capitals every time you write it because that's how they write it in the film. That was a little bit 00:03:47.390 --> 00:03:47.710 of Okay. 00:03:47.790 --> 00:04:00.035 Too much of a stretch for me. Like, I can see I can see what he's going for there, but, you know, but, you know, you see something like seven. Yeah. They kind of went with the numeral seven in that everywhere. But this And 00:04:00.035 --> 00:04:00.835 so do we. 00:04:00.835 --> 00:04:05.795 Yeah. But this, like, it's based on Edgar Allan Poe's short story, The Pit and the Pendulum. 00:04:05.795 --> 00:04:07.075 The Pit and the Pendulum. 00:04:07.155 --> 00:04:16.000 But the title on the film is Pit and the Pendulum, which makes you think that it's somebody named Pit, and he's playing with his new pendulum that he got for Christmas. 00:04:16.160 --> 00:04:28.105 Dog is named Pendulum. It's a Tom Hanks story. I so that's we're already starting off on the wrong foot with this movie, nineteen sixty one's Pit and the Pendulum. 00:04:28.185 --> 00:04:30.505 Okay. Gotcha. Yeah. Gotcha. Yeah. 00:04:30.585 --> 00:04:49.830 So okay. Well but okay. Before we jump into this, let's talk about because we're again, this is part of our season long discussion about Roger Corman projects, whether it's something he directed, produced, wrote, directed, and produced, executive produced, whatever. This is part of this ongoing series. Members are voting for these. 00:04:49.830 --> 00:05:21.215 This was, you know, we decided since Edgar Allan Poe's birthday is in January, we would use this month to celebrate with one of his, one of Corman's eight adaptations, and the members voted on this one, The Pit and the Pendulum. So let's start by talking about our experience with Edgar Allan Poe, and then we can talk about this particular story, and then we'll jump into the film. So is Poe somebody that you have enjoyed in your life? Where like, where do you stand with with the old poster? 00:05:21.215 --> 00:05:33.215 With Poe? Where do I stand with the poster? Oh, god. If he could be on our filmmaker shirt. I stood with big Poe for a while in high school. 00:05:33.215 --> 00:06:04.670 Like, I read a bunch of Poe in high school, and I didn't really go beyond that. I'm not I'm far from a Poe scholar, but but I I remember snippets. I flipped through the story, but very short story, in my compendium of Poe that's dusty on the old shelf here. And so I I I was able to kind of refresh myself on what the original story was about, and I have read a lot of other stuff. I like Poe. 00:06:04.750 --> 00:06:19.145 I like allusions to Poe. I think Poe is useful in conversation because his stories make for great metaphor for other modern topics. I don't, I I don't read po every year. I'm not one of those posters. 00:06:19.145 --> 00:06:44.335 Yeah. Yeah. When I was in seventh grade, our English teacher everyone had to pick a poem and memorize it and then recite it in front of the class. And everyone is picking things like Shell Silverstein or, you know, I I picked the road less traveled by, like those sorts of simple sorts of things. I said, I'm gonna do the raven. 00:06:44.495 --> 00:07:03.420 And so I tackled that. I memorized the entire thing and I still, to this day, like have huge chunks of it memorized. Like, I can still tackle that with, you know, some skill. I'm I'm not as it's one that I have to review to actually get the full thing going again, but it's it's still there. I still have Yeah. 00:07:03.420 --> 00:07:04.380 Still have it floating around. 00:07:04.380 --> 00:07:06.140 I'd like to see that someday. 00:07:06.300 --> 00:07:42.115 Maybe I'll show you. But anyway, so from that, I just I really fell in love with the way that he told stories and and, you know, in some other classes, we would read different short stories of his. And so I I had familiar familiarity with him. But like you, it largely tapered off after junior high high school, and I just I never really kind of pursued it beyond that. I enjoy Poe stories when they come up, and it's interesting to take on films like this that really take liberties with what I mean, post short story, especially for this one. 00:07:42.275 --> 00:08:04.445 You know, it's not really something that you can make a full feature film with, like The Raven. Yeah. That's hard to take a do that. And so I enjoy his stories, but I've I've not looked at many things that have been, adaptations or inspirations for things just because I know that, well, largely, you're probably not doing much with the actual story. And that's kind of where I am with Poe. 00:08:04.445 --> 00:08:11.565 Like, I'm familiar with some of his works. It's been a while, and I've seen very few things that call themselves adaptations. 00:08:11.645 --> 00:08:16.880 You know what'll make you really wanna go back to the source material is watching this movie. 00:08:18.880 --> 00:08:26.400 Well, you say that as if you didn't have fun. So this will be a good conversation because I'm curious where you land with this one once we get into it. 00:08:26.400 --> 00:08:26.640 Yeah. 00:08:38.225 --> 00:09:20.850 Dear cinephile, allow me to beckon you into a world where the love of film is a haunting mistress, a realm that implores you to join our impassioned community and embark upon a journey most macabre. What you have just witnessed is but a spectral glimpse into our descent into Roger Corman's Gothic Labyrinth, The Pit and the Pendulum. 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