1 00:00:00,250 --> 00:00:04,420 Marker, Marker, Marker in the Dark, Marker in the Dark, 2 00:00:04,860 --> 00:00:08,189 Bow, Chicka, Wow, Wow, Wow, Wow, Wow, Wow, Wow, 3 00:00:10,314 --> 00:00:10,954 Hi, Alison. 4 00:00:11,544 --> 00:00:11,854 I'm at 5 00:00:13,074 --> 00:00:15,094 Welcome to Episode 4. 6 00:00:15,324 --> 00:00:15,674 three. 7 00:00:15,675 --> 00:00:18,084 Oh, 8 00:00:20,754 --> 00:00:32,104 Welcome to Episode 3, Season 3, of ADHD20, which is a podcast that finds 9 00:00:33,124 --> 00:00:41,004 the correlation, the connection, the intersection of ADHD and. 10 00:00:41,404 --> 00:00:42,674 TTRPGs. 11 00:00:42,744 --> 00:00:44,874 right, that's right, that's what it does. 12 00:00:49,781 --> 00:00:52,091 Why are we in each other's brains today? 13 00:00:52,131 --> 00:00:52,921 Goodness! 14 00:00:53,801 --> 00:00:54,181 It's fun. 15 00:00:54,661 --> 00:00:56,171 I know, I know, 16 00:00:56,171 --> 00:00:56,261 I 17 00:00:56,331 --> 00:00:57,191 You're like a little 18 00:00:57,271 --> 00:00:58,991 tadpole swimming around in here. 19 00:00:59,011 --> 00:00:59,601 Sorry, you guys. 20 00:01:00,081 --> 00:01:01,591 I'm obsessed with Baldur's Gate 3 right 21 00:01:01,591 --> 00:01:05,401 now and I just realized that we're connected by the same illithid 22 00:01:05,401 --> 00:01:07,931 and that illithid is ADHD. 23 00:01:13,796 --> 00:01:16,866 Transformation to full nerd complete! 24 00:01:17,001 --> 00:01:19,481 Starting out strong. 25 00:01:20,511 --> 00:01:21,641 Holy crap. 26 00:01:24,536 --> 00:01:25,766 That wasn't in the notes. 27 00:01:26,111 --> 00:01:29,371 I have not even thought about that, but yes, for those of you who love 28 00:01:29,371 --> 00:01:39,231 BG3, Uh, would, I would easily say that ADHD could be a tadpole in your brain. 29 00:01:40,301 --> 00:01:40,581 That, 30 00:01:40,581 --> 00:01:41,031 um, 31 00:01:42,276 --> 00:01:47,246 And it's like, we have guides encouraging us to like, use it, right? 32 00:01:47,256 --> 00:01:49,776 To like, lean into it instead of fight it, 33 00:01:49,786 --> 00:01:54,206 which is like, the whole part of Act One of BG3 is your little 34 00:01:54,216 --> 00:01:56,816 guide whispering in your dreams. 35 00:01:56,816 --> 00:01:59,096 Use, use the connection. 36 00:01:59,146 --> 00:02:00,656 Use the power it gives you. 37 00:02:01,021 --> 00:02:03,911 He's pretty handsome too, the mysterious dream 38 00:02:03,911 --> 00:02:04,451 warrior. 39 00:02:04,771 --> 00:02:06,421 Oh, I have, I have a lady. 40 00:02:07,551 --> 00:02:09,331 You get to, you get to, choose your own guide at the 41 00:02:09,331 --> 00:02:09,991 beginning. 42 00:02:11,451 --> 00:02:12,101 That's what 43 00:02:12,101 --> 00:02:12,801 it was! 44 00:02:13,181 --> 00:02:13,951 That's what it was! 45 00:02:19,531 --> 00:02:22,881 Well, to be fair, I've started this game over about three times. 46 00:02:26,283 --> 00:02:34,123 I was telling Alison that, um, I just, all of January was like, was treading water 47 00:02:34,123 --> 00:02:42,933 so hard, I just, I came out of the gate strong, uh, last year, hit January, just 48 00:02:42,933 --> 00:02:48,393 felt super disorganized, all, nothing worked, all the, all the, everything, all 49 00:02:48,393 --> 00:02:57,273 the systems just crashing on top of each other, uh, and then, I, very proudly 50 00:02:58,373 --> 00:03:06,373 and dutifully, uh, had a colonoscopy, uh, screening, colonoscopy, a screening, 51 00:03:07,033 --> 00:03:12,743 uh, which happened last week, and at that time, uh, my coach from episode 52 00:03:12,743 --> 00:03:19,423 one went off to have a baby, and my wife went off to dog sit, so I've just been 53 00:03:21,723 --> 00:03:22,113 unhinged. 54 00:03:22,873 --> 00:03:23,083 So, 55 00:03:23,988 --> 00:03:24,443 You're, you're 56 00:03:24,443 --> 00:03:24,663 uh, 57 00:03:24,773 --> 00:03:25,303 You're treading 58 00:03:25,303 --> 00:03:30,008 water in like, viscous gel instead of water now. 59 00:03:30,008 --> 00:03:32,728 It's 87 times harder 60 00:03:32,808 --> 00:03:33,988 to, to fight. 61 00:03:34,168 --> 00:03:34,578 I get it. 62 00:03:35,113 --> 00:03:35,653 it really is. 63 00:03:35,893 --> 00:03:38,893 Another thing about BG3, to that very point. 64 00:03:38,968 --> 00:03:40,318 Mm hmm. 65 00:03:40,953 --> 00:03:48,133 to that point, I do love Okay, as a Dungeon Master, I have learned already a 66 00:03:48,213 --> 00:03:52,103 shit ton of stuff about DMing from BG3. 67 00:03:52,223 --> 00:03:52,653 One of 68 00:03:52,898 --> 00:03:52,988 Interesting. 69 00:03:53,163 --> 00:03:57,483 being the amount of difficult terrain that these 70 00:03:57,728 --> 00:03:58,898 Yes. 71 00:03:59,708 --> 00:04:00,978 Yes. 72 00:04:01,673 --> 00:04:08,293 Implement that, because it's really difficult, and it should be. 73 00:04:09,068 --> 00:04:09,398 It, 74 00:04:09,433 --> 00:04:18,083 in my DMing world, everything is just perfect, slick, easy movin jams. 75 00:04:18,083 --> 00:04:18,573 But what? 76 00:04:18,953 --> 00:04:20,758 And let me, yes and that. 77 00:04:21,078 --> 00:04:23,228 I, it took me so long. 78 00:04:23,248 --> 00:04:25,858 I am a brand new video gamer. 79 00:04:25,858 --> 00:04:29,048 This is my first gaming system since my Atari. 80 00:04:29,668 --> 00:04:34,738 Um, so I, I, I came in not knowing it and I literally had to watch YouTube videos 81 00:04:34,738 --> 00:04:36,568 of like how, how do I hold the control? 82 00:04:36,578 --> 00:04:38,278 Like, what do these buttons do? 83 00:04:38,308 --> 00:04:42,418 Because I was so lost for the first, like, Several hours I was trying to play. 84 00:04:42,608 --> 00:04:45,108 It took me so long to even figure out how to build a character just 85 00:04:45,148 --> 00:04:47,308 because I didn't know what to hit, even though it's right there on the 86 00:04:47,308 --> 00:04:48,928 screen, if you know how to read it. 87 00:04:49,148 --> 00:04:49,848 That's the thing. 88 00:04:49,918 --> 00:04:53,398 Like, the key is there if you know what to do with it, but I couldn't, 89 00:04:53,438 --> 00:04:54,488 I needed a key for the keys. 90 00:04:54,488 --> 00:04:56,628 Anywho, I digress. 91 00:04:56,998 --> 00:04:57,618 is not 92 00:04:58,078 --> 00:04:59,448 It's not easy. 93 00:04:59,508 --> 00:05:05,108 it is not an easy game It is not an easy first game to jump into it is really not 94 00:05:05,203 --> 00:05:06,903 That is the Alison way right there. 95 00:05:06,913 --> 00:05:13,423 Like, why would I wade in when I can just make myself drown out the gate? 96 00:05:13,838 --> 00:05:15,248 Yeah, mm hmm, yeah, 97 00:05:15,263 --> 00:05:18,923 Um, but I noticed that, like, when we would go through these rough 98 00:05:18,923 --> 00:05:23,053 terrains, I would, we would come out of them, and my character, I'm actually 99 00:05:23,053 --> 00:05:26,033 playing Chimerical, who you guys have heard me talk about on this podcast. 100 00:05:27,353 --> 00:05:28,733 She would come out damaged. 101 00:05:28,743 --> 00:05:32,293 She'd come out like 20 hit points down and the rest of the party would, and 102 00:05:32,293 --> 00:05:34,503 I'm like, what, they're all jumping. 103 00:05:34,523 --> 00:05:38,363 That's why it's like, that is, that's ADHD right there too, is like, I'm 104 00:05:38,373 --> 00:05:40,323 making things harder on myself. 105 00:05:40,493 --> 00:05:42,653 I could just jump over the fire. 106 00:05:42,653 --> 00:05:45,058 I could just like do a perception check and see. 107 00:05:45,068 --> 00:05:48,438 See the vines that are going to entangle me, and instead I am just the 108 00:05:48,448 --> 00:05:52,158 impulse gremlin like running through life and just taking the damage. 109 00:05:52,998 --> 00:05:55,358 Oh man, we did, this is not on the outline, Matt. 110 00:05:55,368 --> 00:05:58,178 We have something else totally to talk about today, but we're 111 00:05:58,178 --> 00:05:59,508 gonna have to like circle back and 112 00:05:59,518 --> 00:06:02,988 do like a full This is a this is your appetizer. 113 00:06:02,988 --> 00:06:07,608 We're sprinkling a little taste of what's to come as we all get deeper and deeper 114 00:06:07,608 --> 00:06:09,568 into this game that I'm loving so much. 115 00:06:10,263 --> 00:06:15,833 And it's just, hours are being devoured by it and I don't care. 116 00:06:15,993 --> 00:06:19,653 I don't give a hoot or a toot. 117 00:06:21,313 --> 00:06:21,923 You feel me? 118 00:06:22,068 --> 00:06:22,818 It's good. 119 00:06:22,838 --> 00:06:23,668 It is good. 120 00:06:23,728 --> 00:06:24,298 It is good. 121 00:06:24,618 --> 00:06:27,548 But what are we, uh, what are we talking about today? 122 00:06:27,548 --> 00:06:27,878 Mm. 123 00:06:28,758 --> 00:06:31,613 We're actually bringing you guys a little tale once again from our 124 00:06:31,613 --> 00:06:37,153 home game, from our Curse of Strahd game, that we experienced in game 125 00:06:37,158 --> 00:06:37,648 Yes. 126 00:06:38,233 --> 00:06:39,553 really just yesterday. 127 00:06:40,463 --> 00:06:43,973 All the days are running together because Matt and I just were talking about last 128 00:06:43,973 --> 00:06:48,003 week what we could talk about for this episode, circling everything back, back 129 00:06:48,003 --> 00:06:53,243 to you and Under Anesthesia last week, and it just, it zapped you, and we 130 00:06:53,243 --> 00:06:58,333 wondered, like, is that Is that normal or is, does having a neurodivergent 131 00:06:58,333 --> 00:07:03,393 brain react differently to, you know? 132 00:07:03,468 --> 00:07:07,778 Right, and and I will I will I will immediately say we don't know the answer 133 00:07:07,778 --> 00:07:09,358 to that But we're gonna talk about it. 134 00:07:09,358 --> 00:07:10,138 Anyway, like we 135 00:07:10,203 --> 00:07:11,043 Mm-Hmm? 136 00:07:11,648 --> 00:07:12,888 We've done no research. 137 00:07:13,008 --> 00:07:19,138 We don't know whether That's a thing, but I do know that generally the feeling 138 00:07:19,208 --> 00:07:25,170 of being stunned of being incapacitated Has to go hand in hand with the fact 139 00:07:25,170 --> 00:07:31,313 that With all of the other topics that we have broached, like RSD, and over 140 00:07:31,353 --> 00:07:37,603 explanation, and hyper focus, and, or, you know, or lack of any of those things. 141 00:07:37,613 --> 00:07:38,893 So, that's what we're going to talk about 142 00:07:38,963 --> 00:07:42,083 catastropic. 143 00:07:42,673 --> 00:07:43,343 trying to remember. 144 00:07:43,353 --> 00:07:46,253 But, before we do that, of course. 145 00:07:46,573 --> 00:07:47,293 It's time. 146 00:07:47,673 --> 00:07:48,703 It's time to roll some beautiful. 147 00:07:48,703 --> 00:07:49,503 You are, you're rolling. 148 00:07:49,593 --> 00:07:51,223 What, what dice are you rolling with, Mattie? 149 00:07:52,033 --> 00:07:52,433 Um. 150 00:07:52,993 --> 00:07:53,353 I see. 151 00:07:53,353 --> 00:07:55,183 I told you I'd make a dice gremlin of you yet 152 00:07:55,318 --> 00:07:56,968 Oh god, you have no idea. 153 00:07:57,058 --> 00:07:59,038 Now it's, it's out of control, actually. 154 00:07:59,328 --> 00:08:00,808 Uh, I have, I have two sets. 155 00:08:00,808 --> 00:08:03,258 I have my office set, and then I have my home set. 156 00:08:03,653 --> 00:08:06,143 so that sounds incredibly in control to me. 157 00:08:07,273 --> 00:08:07,903 just. 158 00:08:08,158 --> 00:08:09,588 hehehehe, yeah, yeah, 159 00:08:09,663 --> 00:08:13,423 That sounds so the opposite of impulsive or gremlin like. 160 00:08:13,433 --> 00:08:14,053 Do better. 161 00:08:14,063 --> 00:08:14,273 Do 162 00:08:14,273 --> 00:08:14,633 more. 163 00:08:14,633 --> 00:08:16,358 For Fur serious. 164 00:08:16,598 --> 00:08:18,678 Ah, 165 00:08:18,793 --> 00:08:20,773 and they're pretty okay. 166 00:08:21,583 --> 00:08:24,643 And a one and two and a one, two… 68. 167 00:08:25,218 --> 00:08:26,228 so close. 168 00:08:26,743 --> 00:08:26,893 I know. 169 00:08:27,428 --> 00:08:28,858 So close to being nice. 170 00:08:30,245 --> 00:08:36,005 If you had a familiar in real life, what would be its primary form? 171 00:08:36,574 --> 00:08:36,794 Oh, 172 00:08:37,875 --> 00:08:38,005 I 173 00:08:38,505 --> 00:08:39,075 know. 174 00:08:39,269 --> 00:08:40,859 I've had a familiar, okay. 175 00:08:40,859 --> 00:08:46,469 Is that, so that's a little tricky because, you know, I, I am a dog person. 176 00:08:46,469 --> 00:08:47,519 I love dogs. 177 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:49,629 I don't dislike any animals. 178 00:08:49,839 --> 00:08:52,329 But a familiar is such a specific. 179 00:08:53,735 --> 00:08:55,125 It's a soul connection. 180 00:08:57,050 --> 00:08:59,230 And Familiars, for those of you not familiar. 181 00:08:59,230 --> 00:09:04,863 Uh, gross, Alison, it's a spell. 182 00:09:04,873 --> 00:09:09,963 So when you are bonded with a familiar, it's a being that exists on the ethereal 183 00:09:09,963 --> 00:09:14,963 plane that you can call into the material plane that you do have this bond with. 184 00:09:14,983 --> 00:09:17,563 They have kind of a base what they are, but as part of the 185 00:09:17,573 --> 00:09:19,233 spell, you can change its form. 186 00:09:19,243 --> 00:09:22,603 So if we're going on a sea adventure, I could make my familiar an octopus. 187 00:09:23,338 --> 00:09:27,708 And they can be of aid, they can take turns with you in combat. 188 00:09:28,048 --> 00:09:33,198 Our friend Matt, not this one, the other one, has a familiar in our Barovia 189 00:09:33,208 --> 00:09:38,538 game and does amazing things with that fiery little bird that he has. 190 00:09:39,288 --> 00:09:42,638 It's really a cool mechanic for you to just kind of like have a 191 00:09:42,638 --> 00:09:46,918 little buddy, but also kind of, uh, you can see and hear through 192 00:09:46,928 --> 00:09:48,828 their eyes and ears, which is neat. 193 00:09:48,858 --> 00:09:53,458 But when you, when you're seeing and hearing, you as a person lose access 194 00:09:53,458 --> 00:09:56,308 to those senses, which I kind of love. 195 00:09:57,484 --> 00:09:58,124 great. 196 00:09:58,368 --> 00:09:58,848 Um, 197 00:10:00,898 --> 00:10:02,198 Again, I love dogs. 198 00:10:02,198 --> 00:10:04,858 I, I, I, will have a dog. 199 00:10:04,858 --> 00:10:11,138 But I feel like, uh, a familiar really needs to be a pocketable creature, 200 00:10:11,148 --> 00:10:12,758 or something that has its own. 201 00:10:13,528 --> 00:10:18,298 constant, uh, you know, ability for motion without getting tired because, you 202 00:10:18,298 --> 00:10:21,918 know, otherwise, Shih Tzus, Shih Tzus get 203 00:10:21,918 --> 00:10:23,338 tired they, 204 00:10:23,534 --> 00:10:25,554 I feel like I know what you're going to say, so 205 00:10:25,554 --> 00:10:26,724 let's see if I'm right. 206 00:10:27,488 --> 00:10:28,878 You want to, you want to guess? 207 00:10:29,404 --> 00:10:30,324 I was going to guess rat. 208 00:10:30,378 --> 00:10:31,278 You got it! 209 00:10:31,328 --> 00:10:32,358 You got it! 210 00:10:32,528 --> 00:10:33,408 You got it! 211 00:10:33,818 --> 00:10:37,878 Uh, yes, I think a rat would be a perfect familiar. 212 00:10:38,678 --> 00:10:41,398 Because they are smart. 213 00:10:42,398 --> 00:10:44,088 are Personable? 214 00:10:44,838 --> 00:10:46,348 know, I don't mean sewer rats. 215 00:10:46,348 --> 00:10:50,238 I know that, I know that rats get a very bad, bad, uh, rep, but 216 00:10:51,808 --> 00:10:53,778 can do amazing, amazing things. 217 00:10:53,848 --> 00:10:54,908 They will live in your pocket. 218 00:10:54,938 --> 00:10:57,148 They will, they will, like, they can learn tricks. 219 00:10:57,148 --> 00:11:04,178 They can, wish I had a rat Yeah. 220 00:11:04,178 --> 00:11:06,684 It's funny, you made one of my a were rat in one of our campaigns, 221 00:11:06,684 --> 00:11:08,924 and like, Yeah, I cried. 222 00:11:08,924 --> 00:11:09,644 Like, I was not 223 00:11:11,394 --> 00:11:16,394 Matt was so horrified as to why I was having such an emotional reaction. 224 00:11:16,604 --> 00:11:18,894 I only know, like, pizza rat and sewer rat, 225 00:11:19,048 --> 00:11:19,348 Yeah. 226 00:11:19,378 --> 00:11:21,898 I love, I love it, Matt, the rat cats meat man. 227 00:11:21,898 --> 00:11:23,308 I mean, just keeps going on and on. 228 00:11:23,399 --> 00:11:23,719 Yeah. 229 00:11:24,628 --> 00:11:24,868 Yeah. 230 00:11:24,898 --> 00:11:25,258 Perfect. 231 00:11:25,258 --> 00:11:25,738 Familiar. 232 00:11:26,158 --> 00:11:27,228 How about you, Alison? 233 00:11:27,419 --> 00:11:30,339 Okay, so I know that everybody's going to guess I would pick cat, 234 00:11:30,369 --> 00:11:35,319 and that was second place because I do, I love cats, I love my cats, um, 235 00:11:35,319 --> 00:11:38,709 and I think cats make for excellent familiars for many, many reasons. 236 00:11:39,069 --> 00:11:43,119 But I was, I was sharing that our illithids were connected once again, 237 00:11:43,119 --> 00:11:46,819 that I, I would want something a little bit more pocket-sized 238 00:11:46,838 --> 00:11:47,128 Yeah. 239 00:11:48,299 --> 00:11:50,939 Um, you're not going to be able to guess what mine is. 240 00:11:50,959 --> 00:11:54,719 Mine came to me while you were saying rat out of left field, but 241 00:11:54,759 --> 00:11:57,449 the more I think about it, the more perfect it becomes to me. 242 00:11:59,779 --> 00:12:00,859 If you want to guess. 243 00:12:01,038 --> 00:12:02,128 Mole. 244 00:12:02,969 --> 00:12:03,739 No. 245 00:12:04,968 --> 00:12:05,738 Hamster. 246 00:12:06,009 --> 00:12:06,399 Nope. 247 00:12:07,008 --> 00:12:08,018 Sloth. 248 00:12:08,689 --> 00:12:11,569 Oh, that's a good one, but not, that's, that's lost in our pocket, but they 249 00:12:11,569 --> 00:12:12,559 could just like hang on your neck. 250 00:12:12,609 --> 00:12:16,189 Anyways, we could spend an entire episode talking about the best familiars. 251 00:12:16,439 --> 00:12:17,819 I would pick porcupine, 252 00:12:18,108 --> 00:12:19,638 Holy moly. 253 00:12:19,739 --> 00:12:23,199 Because, I mean, they're, they're smart little creatures 254 00:12:23,219 --> 00:12:24,289 is what I know about them. 255 00:12:24,539 --> 00:12:27,909 And I love, I feel like, I feel like we share, like they've got 256 00:12:27,909 --> 00:12:29,909 these, you know, the spines, right? 257 00:12:29,909 --> 00:12:31,879 The, the, the needles, whatever they're called. 258 00:12:31,879 --> 00:12:33,279 I don't know a ton about porcupines. 259 00:12:34,094 --> 00:12:36,784 But they only use those when they're threatened. 260 00:12:36,814 --> 00:12:41,074 They can't, they do have the ability to like, lay them down and be gentle. 261 00:12:41,074 --> 00:12:42,114 And I feel like that's me. 262 00:12:42,114 --> 00:12:44,654 Like, I can get real prickly real quick. 263 00:12:45,354 --> 00:12:47,134 But I can also like, choose 264 00:12:47,798 --> 00:12:49,558 You can lay, lay down. 265 00:12:49,574 --> 00:12:54,284 when I can want to lay down my defense mechanisms. 266 00:12:54,909 --> 00:12:58,379 And they're just, they're cute little noses, just, you know, 267 00:12:59,232 --> 00:13:04,995 And also, and I blame you for this, Matt, like, the, the, the burgeoning 268 00:13:05,045 --> 00:13:08,415 hipster in me that can't choose, like, the easy, you know, the obvious 269 00:13:08,415 --> 00:13:10,585 answer would be cat, like, I was like, I got to come up with something 270 00:13:10,595 --> 00:13:12,125 cooler, but there has to be a reason. 271 00:13:12,145 --> 00:13:12,545 So, 272 00:13:13,025 --> 00:13:13,815 I love that. 273 00:13:14,285 --> 00:13:15,335 we're keep behind in a rat. 274 00:13:15,565 --> 00:13:16,385 Porcupines and rats? 275 00:13:16,905 --> 00:13:17,285 All right. 276 00:13:17,495 --> 00:13:18,015 bits. 277 00:13:18,465 --> 00:13:21,340 Um, amazing. 278 00:13:21,340 --> 00:13:21,640 We'll 279 00:13:22,010 --> 00:13:25,546 We'll our porcupines and our rats to stun our enemies 280 00:13:25,546 --> 00:13:30,006 I wonder how they could help you out of a stunned, because my dogs don't 281 00:13:30,006 --> 00:13:32,476 really help me out of a stunned state. 282 00:13:32,806 --> 00:13:35,116 They might help me relax. 283 00:13:35,971 --> 00:13:36,911 in one, but, 284 00:13:37,911 --> 00:13:43,661 All right, so let's talk about being stunned in game and IRL. 285 00:13:44,312 --> 00:13:45,792 Yeah, so kind of setting the scene. 286 00:13:45,792 --> 00:13:52,402 So, so in, in, we play D& D 5e, but I'm guessing in, in many TTRPGs, 287 00:13:52,702 --> 00:13:56,202 there is a condition called stunned in which your character is incapacitated. 288 00:13:56,212 --> 00:14:00,712 And when you are incapacitated, it means you get no action, you get no reaction, 289 00:14:01,012 --> 00:14:03,292 and your movement is reduced to zero. 290 00:14:03,302 --> 00:14:10,217 So you can't move, so you may be able to like, Talk or be like vaguely aware 291 00:14:10,217 --> 00:14:13,417 of your surroundings, but you're so 292 00:14:13,547 --> 00:14:14,717 entranced. 293 00:14:15,107 --> 00:14:17,017 But it doesn't mean that you're like dead on the floor, 294 00:14:17,047 --> 00:14:17,437 right? 295 00:14:18,207 --> 00:14:18,757 You're not dead. 296 00:14:18,997 --> 00:14:19,587 fall down. 297 00:14:19,587 --> 00:14:22,157 You just Yeah. 298 00:14:22,997 --> 00:14:25,467 can speak only falteringly. 299 00:14:25,677 --> 00:14:26,177 Um, 300 00:14:26,957 --> 00:14:27,147 So you 301 00:14:27,147 --> 00:14:30,197 can't cast spells because spells usually have verbal 302 00:14:30,267 --> 00:14:30,927 and somatic. 303 00:14:31,542 --> 00:14:32,452 components. 304 00:14:32,742 --> 00:14:36,312 Yep, you're easier to hit because you stand there like a big lump on a log. 305 00:14:36,632 --> 00:14:41,552 Um, you fail anything that would involve strength or dexterity. 306 00:14:41,802 --> 00:14:44,082 Any saves of type. 307 00:14:44,842 --> 00:14:48,602 So, there's a lot of ways in game to be stunned. 308 00:14:48,612 --> 00:14:52,762 There is the monk, which has the stunning strike, which is a very powerful 309 00:14:52,772 --> 00:14:56,192 thing that a monk can specifically do. 310 00:14:56,902 --> 00:15:06,332 Uh, you, yesterday, you threw out hypnotic pattern on the, the vampire, 311 00:15:07,172 --> 00:15:08,832 on the vampires that attacked you. 312 00:15:09,192 --> 00:15:12,952 Well, and this is the story now for I think two sessions running with us, 313 00:15:12,952 --> 00:15:17,422 Matt, is that you have had these, you know, not necessarily big bads, but 314 00:15:17,422 --> 00:15:21,602 you have had these, you've brought these characters in, these beefy, 315 00:15:21,602 --> 00:15:28,322 you, you, you faced us against a death slod a couple of weeks ago that you 316 00:15:28,322 --> 00:15:32,312 thought like you honestly, as a DM, you thought it was going to be a fight. 317 00:15:32,322 --> 00:15:34,642 You thought that it was because those things are. 318 00:15:35,707 --> 00:15:36,227 Ruff! 319 00:15:36,817 --> 00:15:41,707 Like, they can, they can take some hits and they can lash out with some hits. 320 00:15:41,717 --> 00:15:45,547 So, you kind of came into that game like, I got this, I'm putting my party against 321 00:15:45,577 --> 00:15:47,087 the slod and we weren't expecting it. 322 00:15:47,097 --> 00:15:49,747 We had just come out of this room and we had gotten this thing that 323 00:15:49,747 --> 00:15:52,987 we've been looking for, for a really long time and we're feeling 324 00:15:52,987 --> 00:15:53,922 good and then there's this, this. 325 00:15:54,062 --> 00:15:57,322 You know, kind of thing standing in our way of our, of our hasty exit. 326 00:15:57,772 --> 00:16:01,722 Um, and then yesterday's game, we came across a clearing and, 327 00:16:01,742 --> 00:16:05,742 uh, a coven of what looked like just, you know, like old regular 328 00:16:05,752 --> 00:16:06,322 people. 329 00:16:07,357 --> 00:16:12,867 led by a, a, you know, a fanatical, leader, and, and 330 00:16:12,937 --> 00:16:14,717 I loved how it started out. 331 00:16:14,727 --> 00:16:20,907 The, the PCs kind of, you know, came upon this crossroads in, this kind of 332 00:16:20,947 --> 00:16:25,887 opening in a, in a field, and there's a gallows, and there's a beautiful young 333 00:16:25,897 --> 00:16:31,217 woman in a, Like I said, a charismatic leader that is speaking to a small flock 334 00:16:31,217 --> 00:16:33,177 of people and saying, This is a witch! 335 00:16:33,177 --> 00:16:34,357 We're hanging her as a witch! 336 00:16:34,357 --> 00:16:36,727 And all of you are like, What? 337 00:16:36,727 --> 00:16:39,467 Why? 338 00:16:39,467 --> 00:16:41,417 This is a fantasy world. 339 00:16:41,417 --> 00:16:43,917 Why would they punish her for being a witch? 340 00:16:43,947 --> 00:16:45,527 Wouldn't they be into that? 341 00:16:45,797 --> 00:16:48,717 And so the confusion was exactly what I wanted and you kind 342 00:16:48,717 --> 00:16:52,167 of approached the gallows and 343 00:16:52,797 --> 00:16:53,997 it turns out 344 00:16:54,087 --> 00:16:57,887 And Matt, uh, the other one, again, had this fantastic idea. 345 00:16:57,897 --> 00:17:02,047 He had an item that would maybe help us determine if somebody 346 00:17:02,057 --> 00:17:03,617 actually was a witch or not. 347 00:17:03,877 --> 00:17:07,747 So we were gonna do this really weird approach that I don't know if you're 348 00:17:07,757 --> 00:17:13,257 watching this or listening and you don't know much about D&D and you wonder, 349 00:17:13,257 --> 00:17:14,567 like, do you always have to fight? 350 00:17:14,607 --> 00:17:16,207 No, you could talk to people. 351 00:17:16,237 --> 00:17:21,247 You could try and, like, persuade or intimidate or deceive. 352 00:17:21,587 --> 00:17:22,617 We don't do that. 353 00:17:22,657 --> 00:17:25,917 We just walk in and start swinging, but you could, is what 354 00:17:25,917 --> 00:17:27,387 I'm saying, if you wanted to. 355 00:17:27,497 --> 00:17:31,457 I don't, I don't know if anybody knows that about, about D&D. 356 00:17:31,617 --> 00:17:36,717 Um, so we thought maybe we would try a conversation, you know, 357 00:17:36,997 --> 00:17:38,807 that had all the makings for, yeah, 358 00:17:38,807 --> 00:17:39,907 try a little tenderness. 359 00:17:40,837 --> 00:17:44,827 And then we did what we do, which is we started swinging. 360 00:17:44,917 --> 00:17:49,377 he started swinging, and, and, that was okay with me too, because, it, 361 00:17:49,387 --> 00:17:53,927 what, these, these characters were, these, This little, this little gaggle 362 00:17:53,927 --> 00:18:00,417 of villagers were not just townies, they were also Vampire Spawn in, in 363 00:18:00,667 --> 00:18:03,597 This little light of mine, I'm gonna 364 00:18:03,617 --> 00:18:04,577 bite you in the neck. 365 00:18:04,947 --> 00:18:04,957 hmm. 366 00:18:05,187 --> 00:18:12,987 Um, and Vampire Spawn are, they are the weaker variety of Vampire, but they are 367 00:18:12,997 --> 00:18:20,232 certainly I mean, they can get, they can mess up, and they started to beat 368 00:18:20,232 --> 00:18:22,802 the crap out of, uh, Evan's character. 369 00:18:23,262 --> 00:18:23,832 Um, 370 00:18:24,677 --> 00:18:25,317 Tee hee hee. 371 00:18:26,112 --> 00:18:29,492 and then, when it was revealed that all of them, not just the charismatic 372 00:18:29,522 --> 00:18:37,342 leader, was a vamp, but all of these, these five, uh, her, burn the witch, 373 00:18:37,392 --> 00:18:41,432 um, they were all, they were a pack. 374 00:18:41,592 --> 00:18:43,442 What is the pack of vampires called? 375 00:18:44,712 --> 00:18:44,822 Is this 376 00:18:44,992 --> 00:18:46,992 not a coven Oh. 377 00:18:47,002 --> 00:18:48,982 vampires, the fang of co vampires. 378 00:18:49,472 --> 00:18:49,782 Yeah. 379 00:18:49,792 --> 00:18:49,942 uh. 380 00:18:50,002 --> 00:18:50,212 Yeah. 381 00:18:50,272 --> 00:18:52,912 Anyway, tell them about the spell that you caught. 382 00:18:52,942 --> 00:18:54,892 Cost casted. 383 00:18:56,432 --> 00:18:59,512 You know, it's funny because Chimerical, I often feel weak 384 00:18:59,572 --> 00:19:01,122 compared to the rest of my party. 385 00:19:01,122 --> 00:19:03,812 I feel like, and we've talked about this on this podcast before, where 386 00:19:04,312 --> 00:19:08,772 it's like, it's like everybody in the party is a specialist, right? 387 00:19:08,782 --> 00:19:11,352 Like they are real good at the things that they are real good at. 388 00:19:11,652 --> 00:19:13,662 And Chimerical is the generalist. 389 00:19:13,722 --> 00:19:14,632 She's. 390 00:19:15,342 --> 00:19:18,092 kind of good at a lot of things instead of being really good 391 00:19:18,092 --> 00:19:19,312 at any one or two things. 392 00:19:19,842 --> 00:19:25,192 Um, and so, you know, I'm like instantly like, what can I do against 393 00:19:25,202 --> 00:19:27,832 a pack, a coven, a fang, a vampire's 394 00:19:28,002 --> 00:19:28,662 about coven, by the 395 00:19:28,662 --> 00:19:28,872 way. 396 00:19:28,902 --> 00:19:29,112 Yep. 397 00:19:29,162 --> 00:19:29,622 coven? 398 00:19:29,812 --> 00:19:30,292 All right. 399 00:19:30,732 --> 00:19:32,412 Thank you, Twilight series. 400 00:19:32,482 --> 00:19:34,132 I'm sorry to have to admit 401 00:19:34,132 --> 00:19:34,482 that. 402 00:19:34,662 --> 00:19:35,832 was worth reading. 403 00:19:37,857 --> 00:19:40,837 Well, and what's really funny is in Twilight, Vampire Spawn are actually 404 00:19:40,867 --> 00:19:42,787 the straw, anyways, but I digress. 405 00:19:42,887 --> 00:19:47,587 Um, so anyways, I was trying to like level the playing field, um, and like 406 00:19:47,597 --> 00:19:49,397 give, give our party a fighting chance. 407 00:19:49,407 --> 00:19:52,297 So as a bard, I have access to a spell called Hypnotic Pattern. 408 00:19:52,297 --> 00:19:55,547 And what Hypnotic Pattern does is you, there, in D& D, there are, there are, 409 00:19:56,017 --> 00:19:59,297 You can either like use your spell to attack one or a number of people, or you 410 00:19:59,297 --> 00:20:00,957 can do what are called area of effect. 411 00:20:01,157 --> 00:20:05,497 So anybody in an area, and the spirit, the spell will tell you how big or 412 00:20:05,497 --> 00:20:08,997 small, uh, will have to do what's called a saving throw to see if they 413 00:20:08,997 --> 00:20:13,477 can like recognize that magic is being cast on them and withstand the effects. 414 00:20:13,507 --> 00:20:18,367 Well, I cast Hypnotic Pattern directly over this little pack of, I think it 415 00:20:18,367 --> 00:20:21,982 was four of them, kind of standing down on the ground, um, and then I 416 00:20:22,522 --> 00:20:26,132 Because anybody in that area has to do, I think it was an intelligence 417 00:20:26,142 --> 00:20:30,312 saving throw, to see if mentally they could, you know, push the spell away, 418 00:20:30,632 --> 00:20:32,542 and three of the four of them failed 419 00:20:32,542 --> 00:20:32,812 it. 420 00:20:33,552 --> 00:20:38,352 So what happened then is they were all stunned, incapacitated. 421 00:20:38,627 --> 00:20:40,287 They couldn't do anything. 422 00:20:40,507 --> 00:20:44,167 It's this just warbling mass of energy above them that, as the name 423 00:20:44,167 --> 00:20:46,227 might suggest, hypnotizes them. 424 00:20:46,487 --> 00:20:48,957 And so all they could do was just stare up at it. 425 00:20:48,957 --> 00:20:49,877 They don't see anything. 426 00:20:49,877 --> 00:20:50,677 They don't hear anything. 427 00:20:50,677 --> 00:20:53,607 They can't take actions, reactions, and they can't move. 428 00:20:53,947 --> 00:20:59,107 The only thing that can bring them out of it is if, um, I think 429 00:20:59,107 --> 00:21:00,567 you can be like shaken out of it. 430 00:21:00,567 --> 00:21:03,837 So if somebody in their party had like shaken them one at a time using their 431 00:21:03,837 --> 00:21:06,197 action to do so, or if they took damage. 432 00:21:06,877 --> 00:21:08,467 So I was like, let me do that. 433 00:21:08,577 --> 00:21:10,687 That way we can kind of like pick them off one by one. 434 00:21:10,697 --> 00:21:12,247 That way we are in control. 435 00:21:12,247 --> 00:21:13,537 We have the high ground 436 00:21:13,907 --> 00:21:14,957 on the battlefield. 437 00:21:15,637 --> 00:21:16,317 And it worked. 438 00:21:16,822 --> 00:21:18,042 Thankfully, like a charm. 439 00:21:18,052 --> 00:21:21,522 Now, you know, this is where we get into like action economy because 440 00:21:21,522 --> 00:21:25,172 like had I spent my entire turn to cast that spell and they had all 441 00:21:25,182 --> 00:21:27,412 saved, nothing would have happened. 442 00:21:28,152 --> 00:21:32,932 I would have wasted a turn to try and damage, um, or hinder in some way. 443 00:21:32,952 --> 00:21:37,732 But what I realized as we were playing is by my casting this one spell, this 444 00:21:37,742 --> 00:21:43,952 one six second decision that, that I and my character made completely 445 00:21:44,277 --> 00:21:49,637 changed the course of what Matt had presumably spent a lot of time planning. 446 00:21:50,257 --> 00:21:56,637 He was ready for this kind of four on five, you know, hot vampire fight action. 447 00:21:56,817 --> 00:22:00,227 In more ways than one, because number one, yes, they could have all saved 448 00:22:00,267 --> 00:22:06,887 the spell and therefore not have been stunned, or a, a dungeon master, I 449 00:22:06,917 --> 00:22:09,547 could have known that when the leader. 450 00:22:11,202 --> 00:22:13,602 You know, tried to snap them out of 451 00:22:13,787 --> 00:22:14,187 Yep. 452 00:22:14,252 --> 00:22:15,942 have actually worked, and I didn't know that, so. 453 00:22:16,072 --> 00:22:17,192 Whatever, that's not the point. 454 00:22:17,202 --> 00:22:19,602 The point is, I got shut down. 455 00:22:19,892 --> 00:22:26,872 These, these, these creatures, who were going to provide entertainment, 456 00:22:26,942 --> 00:22:30,682 damage, fear, towards the party. 457 00:22:30,812 --> 00:22:33,572 You know, uh, you know, that's part of, that's the fun of the 458 00:22:33,572 --> 00:22:35,042 game, is like, being challenged. 459 00:22:35,222 --> 00:22:38,232 They were just out for the count, 460 00:22:39,852 --> 00:22:40,532 and 461 00:22:41,487 --> 00:22:46,347 And that is such a metaphor for what life with ADHD is like for us. 462 00:22:46,377 --> 00:22:55,367 Yes, because, because, uh, As, as I know that we've, we've touched on 463 00:22:55,367 --> 00:23:00,617 before, but, it's that full shutdown that feels so different, right? 464 00:23:01,352 --> 00:23:05,752 It's that full, what do I do now? 465 00:23:05,762 --> 00:23:12,902 How do I, what am I gonna, what is, you know, like, really, completely, 466 00:23:14,012 --> 00:23:21,082 just out, incapacitated, cannot take actions, cannot react, cannot strength 467 00:23:21,082 --> 00:23:23,782 save, cannot, you know, like, it 468 00:23:23,997 --> 00:23:24,287 Yeah. 469 00:23:24,522 --> 00:23:28,972 it is extreme, and we would love to know what other people think about this, 470 00:23:28,982 --> 00:23:36,302 but For me, at least, um, it becomes something I just have to, I have to 471 00:23:36,302 --> 00:23:39,452 deal with the feeling of being stunned. 472 00:23:39,612 --> 00:23:39,772 I 473 00:23:39,967 --> 00:23:40,327 Mm hmm. 474 00:23:40,328 --> 00:23:40,547 Mm 475 00:23:41,112 --> 00:23:42,362 I can't fight through it. 476 00:23:43,802 --> 00:23:46,202 In fact, that, that often times makes it worse to 477 00:23:46,427 --> 00:23:46,857 hmm. 478 00:23:46,995 --> 00:23:49,535 I can't, yeah, I have to just experience it. 479 00:23:49,635 --> 00:23:56,360 And, the, the, the, the difficult part is that we don't, always expect it. 480 00:23:56,590 --> 00:24:00,690 We, some things I can call, some things I can guess, right? 481 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:07,127 But I did, you know, last week, I had this, uh, this, uh, it wasn't even 482 00:24:07,127 --> 00:24:09,457 an operation, this procedure done. 483 00:24:09,747 --> 00:24:14,917 And, but it did, it did involve the first anesthesia that I had been 484 00:24:14,917 --> 00:24:19,027 through in 2030, 20 years or something. 485 00:24:20,137 --> 00:24:21,107 I just forgot. 486 00:24:21,557 --> 00:24:24,177 how intense it is. 487 00:24:24,407 --> 00:24:24,727 Yeah. 488 00:24:24,728 --> 00:24:25,487 Mm hmm. 489 00:24:25,487 --> 00:24:25,867 Mm 490 00:24:26,577 --> 00:24:32,627 my first thought about speaking today was, do people with ADHD, brains 491 00:24:32,627 --> 00:24:36,817 or anyone that struggles with time blindness, because the whole point, 492 00:24:36,837 --> 00:24:40,047 the whole concept of anesthesia is that you are out, you are done. 493 00:24:40,047 --> 00:24:40,227 And 494 00:24:40,298 --> 00:24:40,947 Mm 495 00:24:41,027 --> 00:24:46,377 think you're just going and then suddenly you're awake and an hour has gone by. 496 00:24:46,377 --> 00:24:46,907 And that is 497 00:24:47,027 --> 00:24:47,487 hmm. 498 00:24:48,217 --> 00:24:48,837 because 499 00:24:49,237 --> 00:24:49,817 Yeah. 500 00:24:49,887 --> 00:24:56,297 world where there is no time and for it to actually be gone. 501 00:24:56,307 --> 00:25:00,287 Not, not just, Oh yeah, I was sleeping or I was 502 00:25:00,987 --> 00:25:01,587 Mm hmm. 503 00:25:01,687 --> 00:25:04,167 to be doing or I was doing something I was supposed to be doing and 504 00:25:04,167 --> 00:25:05,767 I just wasn't aware of time. 505 00:25:05,767 --> 00:25:05,997 This is 506 00:25:06,317 --> 00:25:06,737 Yep. 507 00:25:07,037 --> 00:25:08,317 lights out 508 00:25:08,467 --> 00:25:09,817 little cookies. 509 00:25:10,247 --> 00:25:11,827 You had like an emotional 510 00:25:11,827 --> 00:25:14,787 reaction to that last week though, which was that I was not, 511 00:25:14,887 --> 00:25:17,277 I was a little stunned by that. 512 00:25:17,287 --> 00:25:19,977 Like, you know, we knew that you were going into the procedure. 513 00:25:19,987 --> 00:25:23,407 It's not a fun procedure to have to prep for or go through. 514 00:25:23,657 --> 00:25:25,257 You were put under anesthesia. 515 00:25:25,267 --> 00:25:27,267 Like, so we knew those big pieces. 516 00:25:27,267 --> 00:25:32,087 I do remember because you got it done on a Wednesday and we were all like. 517 00:25:32,917 --> 00:25:35,027 Okay, because you were like, I'll be back up by Thursday. 518 00:25:35,027 --> 00:25:35,717 No problem. 519 00:25:35,807 --> 00:25:36,577 And we were like, 520 00:25:37,597 --> 00:25:40,757 you know, having so I've never been put under anesthesia. 521 00:25:40,887 --> 00:25:42,257 I've never had an operation. 522 00:25:42,507 --> 00:25:47,127 I broke my wrist once as a four year old and got it put in a 523 00:25:47,127 --> 00:25:47,677 cast. 524 00:25:48,347 --> 00:25:50,967 And I've been given like laughing gas at the dentist. 525 00:25:51,332 --> 00:25:55,982 You know, fill cavities and things like that, but like, otherwise I've never been 526 00:25:56,002 --> 00:26:00,402 put under, so I don't know what that feels like and therefore cannot be as empathetic 527 00:26:00,422 --> 00:26:01,992 in that moment as I'd like to be. 528 00:26:02,312 --> 00:26:05,342 But you were fully planning on being fine on Thursday, which 529 00:26:05,342 --> 00:26:06,482 we were all like, Matthew, 530 00:26:07,432 --> 00:26:11,532 but you were, you were, but, and so, so we all expected you to be like, you 531 00:26:11,532 --> 00:26:16,162 know, recovering like you do when you undergo any, anything in the medical 532 00:26:16,342 --> 00:26:24,252 field, but you were like, upset about the like three hours of time that you lost 533 00:26:25,422 --> 00:26:28,792 and and that was kind of my hypothesis too is that because you already have 534 00:26:28,792 --> 00:26:36,192 a very fraught relationship with time as is it you know that like the time 535 00:26:36,202 --> 00:26:40,482 being taken from you that you don't even get like at least with time blindness 536 00:26:40,492 --> 00:26:44,892 we are aware at like oh crap i thought that was going to take an hour it took 537 00:26:44,892 --> 00:26:46,922 four and a half where did the time 538 00:26:46,922 --> 00:26:48,802 go but this was just like 539 00:26:49,417 --> 00:26:49,757 Right. 540 00:26:50,542 --> 00:26:51,702 Never existed to you. 541 00:26:52,447 --> 00:26:54,457 It never, it never existed. 542 00:26:54,497 --> 00:26:56,467 And the other part of it. 543 00:26:56,607 --> 00:26:58,667 I thought that it was three hours. 544 00:26:58,797 --> 00:27:00,587 It was actually only a half hour. 545 00:27:00,717 --> 00:27:06,157 But even that was, It was worse, because I, it could have been 546 00:27:06,157 --> 00:27:07,707 three hours, it could have been. 547 00:27:07,877 --> 00:27:12,117 And, but yes, going, going back to what you were saying, uh, Lindsay 548 00:27:12,117 --> 00:27:18,427 says that the first time she, she had anesthesia, she woke up crying because 549 00:27:18,517 --> 00:27:22,657 it was just such a, just such a shock. 550 00:27:22,987 --> 00:27:30,307 And I do want to stop real quick and I want to say, I want to say that, uh, I, 551 00:27:30,417 --> 00:27:34,867 in, in saying these things and saying that I was emotionally upset or that it 552 00:27:34,867 --> 00:27:40,197 was difficult to prep for this, I do want very much to be open and honest about, 553 00:27:40,707 --> 00:27:47,612 uh, my feeling that everybody should get Uh, it is, it is a preventative measure. 554 00:27:47,882 --> 00:27:51,312 I know way, way, way too many people 555 00:27:53,412 --> 00:27:55,572 put it off and don't. 556 00:27:55,662 --> 00:28:00,332 And there's a lot of things that I think, you know, that I'm with you. 557 00:28:00,332 --> 00:28:05,712 I don't know, know, are, are 100 percent necessary. 558 00:28:05,752 --> 00:28:06,992 I really do believe in this. 559 00:28:06,992 --> 00:28:12,607 I want to urge everybody to go Get a colonoscopy, I think it's like, an 560 00:28:12,607 --> 00:28:17,587 American right, it's a human right, mean, and the science is really good, 561 00:28:17,778 --> 00:28:18,627 Yeah. 562 00:28:18,627 --> 00:28:18,917 Yeah. 563 00:28:19,587 --> 00:28:23,097 and I'm speaking from experience because, you know, I now, I 564 00:28:23,097 --> 00:28:28,757 know people who had really awful experiences because they did not. 565 00:28:29,767 --> 00:28:30,677 Let me get that out there. 566 00:28:31,657 --> 00:28:34,757 This is not negative in that way, I will do it again, in ten 567 00:28:34,757 --> 00:28:38,812 years, gladly, you know, Woohoo! 568 00:28:38,892 --> 00:28:39,452 But! 569 00:28:40,462 --> 00:28:43,152 I will remember, hopefully, because I'm much better at 570 00:28:43,152 --> 00:28:44,562 taking notes than I used to be. 571 00:28:44,732 --> 00:28:46,492 I'm going to remember the experience. 572 00:28:47,422 --> 00:28:56,552 Yeah, I was, was just in an emotional shock, stunned state for almost two days. 573 00:28:57,447 --> 00:28:57,877 Mm 574 00:28:59,992 --> 00:29:01,452 it finally wore off. 575 00:29:01,462 --> 00:29:04,382 I know that there's some residual elements to, you know, the 576 00:29:04,397 --> 00:29:04,857 hmm. 577 00:29:04,858 --> 00:29:05,327 Mm hmm. 578 00:29:05,372 --> 00:29:09,782 and coming out of it, but there was no, you know, it's not operation. 579 00:29:10,707 --> 00:29:11,027 Yep. 580 00:29:11,732 --> 00:29:13,872 there is no pain, there is no discomfort, there is 581 00:29:15,617 --> 00:29:15,977 Yeah. 582 00:29:16,197 --> 00:29:21,077 prep really is the worst part of that, and even that's not horrible, really, truly. 583 00:29:21,577 --> 00:29:29,657 But man, I did not, did not expect to be that just flabbergasted by the 584 00:29:29,657 --> 00:29:32,097 loss of time, the emotional take. 585 00:29:32,327 --> 00:29:35,117 And so yeah, I could not do anything on Thursday. 586 00:29:35,812 --> 00:29:37,492 I was trying and trying and trying and trying. 587 00:29:37,912 --> 00:29:43,772 So, you know, being, put under, into twilight sleep is not, is not the only 588 00:29:43,772 --> 00:29:45,332 way that, that you can be stunned. 589 00:29:45,947 --> 00:29:46,287 Yep. 590 00:29:46,382 --> 00:29:50,182 there's, there's lots of different ways. 591 00:29:50,182 --> 00:29:52,282 I know that you have been stunned yourself. 592 00:29:52,672 --> 00:29:55,492 Um, let's talk about that. 593 00:29:55,497 --> 00:29:57,322 What, what do we, what do we do? 594 00:29:57,322 --> 00:30:00,252 What can we do when we feel the stunned 595 00:30:02,197 --> 00:30:02,757 Right. 596 00:30:03,527 --> 00:30:04,377 Well, and that was 597 00:30:04,397 --> 00:30:05,687 kind of, and that 598 00:30:05,687 --> 00:30:10,957 was exactly it, like, my hypothesis, and this is a hypothesis, as we have said 599 00:30:11,087 --> 00:30:12,517 many times and will continue to say. 600 00:30:13,262 --> 00:30:17,502 Say many, many more times, we are not medical professionals, so we don't know. 601 00:30:18,182 --> 00:30:18,242 Yeah. 602 00:30:18,332 --> 00:30:26,072 my hypothesis here is So, when you are being stunned in game, whether 603 00:30:26,072 --> 00:30:30,172 it's from a magic effect or a spell, you typically do something, as I 604 00:30:30,172 --> 00:30:31,852 mentioned before, called a saving throw. 605 00:30:32,852 --> 00:30:35,162 In role playing games. 606 00:30:35,412 --> 00:30:37,602 A lot of times when there's a saving throw, there's something called advantage 607 00:30:37,602 --> 00:30:38,872 and there's something called disadvantage. 608 00:30:38,872 --> 00:30:42,492 So advantage means you get to roll the dice twice and take the higher number. 609 00:30:42,732 --> 00:30:45,522 Disadvantage is you get to roll the dice twice and take a lower number. 610 00:30:45,822 --> 00:30:50,212 And I have to wonder if neurodivergent brains are rolling 611 00:30:50,222 --> 00:30:52,907 most, if not all, of these dice. 612 00:30:53,047 --> 00:30:57,117 saving throws to withstand these effects at disadvantage. 613 00:30:57,357 --> 00:31:01,097 It is doubly hard for us to prevent it. 614 00:31:01,117 --> 00:31:04,597 I don't, and again, I don't know this, then it might be neurotypical 615 00:31:04,607 --> 00:31:06,157 in a neurotypical situation. 616 00:31:06,167 --> 00:31:07,217 Now, not every time. 617 00:31:07,217 --> 00:31:11,717 There are things everybody struggles with just by virtue of being human. 618 00:31:11,717 --> 00:31:15,177 So not trying to corner the market for people with ADHD here. 619 00:31:15,627 --> 00:31:21,502 Um, but I wonder if Neurotypical people, in some of these cases, when we talked 620 00:31:21,512 --> 00:31:25,242 about being stunned, being frozen, being, it's an analysis paralysis 621 00:31:25,242 --> 00:31:28,462 kind of a thing where it's like you literally cannot take a step forward. 622 00:31:29,662 --> 00:31:34,132 If, if neurotypical people are rolling what is called just a straight roll, where 623 00:31:34,132 --> 00:31:37,282 they just roll the dice once, you know, or they're even rolling at disadvantage 624 00:31:37,282 --> 00:31:41,472 because they've practiced and have gotten really good at recognizing the warning 625 00:31:41,472 --> 00:31:44,912 signs that something's gonna knock the wind out of them, and they know how 626 00:31:44,912 --> 00:31:48,842 to dodge those effects more fully and completely than neurodivergent people 627 00:31:48,842 --> 00:31:49,152 do. 628 00:31:49,932 --> 00:31:50,582 Um. 629 00:31:51,357 --> 00:31:53,927 And that's, that's the feeling that as we've been talking about 630 00:31:53,927 --> 00:31:57,747 this, that I personally just cannot shake that how many things in, 631 00:31:57,797 --> 00:32:01,647 in, in our lives totally stupefied 632 00:32:01,647 --> 00:32:08,647 us because of our inability to, to save, to roll a high enough number 633 00:32:09,107 --> 00:32:11,387 on whatever the dice of life are. 634 00:32:11,492 --> 00:32:12,162 Well, 635 00:32:14,312 --> 00:32:19,912 uh, I do, I did find an article, uh, on autism. 636 00:32:20,122 --> 00:32:20,622 org, 637 00:32:21,067 --> 00:32:21,367 Okay. 638 00:32:21,652 --> 00:32:26,322 um, I, I tried to keep it neurodivergent, uh, instead of 639 00:32:26,422 --> 00:32:30,782 specifically ADHD, just because I know that they're, they're so entwined. 640 00:32:32,692 --> 00:32:37,102 And this is just one person's take, uh, Sim C. 641 00:32:37,102 --> 00:32:39,612 Rankin, R N C R N A. 642 00:32:39,865 --> 00:32:46,985 I think she, Sim, she is a registered nurse and, uh, has a child with ASD. 643 00:32:48,445 --> 00:32:52,325 Um, and, and it, and, and definitely experiences. 644 00:32:54,405 --> 00:33:03,082 uh, a sensitivity to anesthesia, an addition of, of behavioral problems, 645 00:33:03,972 --> 00:33:09,832 uh, surrounding, I guess, the lead up and maybe even, maybe even post? 646 00:33:09,842 --> 00:33:16,092 So it, it's, she seems to be saying that there's, like, even, uh, 647 00:33:16,482 --> 00:33:18,582 even, like, something that can. 648 00:33:19,017 --> 00:33:24,234 Not, hopefully not trigger, but just kind of, make, have a larger effect 649 00:33:24,234 --> 00:33:31,584 on them chemically, And then she gets into some very specific, we'll, 650 00:33:31,584 --> 00:33:33,024 we'll, I'll, I'll send this to you. 651 00:33:33,234 --> 00:33:39,689 But, um, I did, I did let them know that I had a DHD, they knew what I was taking it. 652 00:33:39,894 --> 00:33:40,344 It wasn't. 653 00:33:40,624 --> 00:33:46,144 It wasn't just that, but, um, but yeah, she goes on to say, like, maybe, maybe 654 00:33:46,144 --> 00:33:52,394 laughing gas would work instead, maybe ketamine, maybe Special K would do the 655 00:33:53,004 --> 00:34:01,164 triiiiick, but I don't know, like, trying to, trying to say, the, is there something 656 00:34:01,164 --> 00:34:04,784 about a drug that just knocks you out? 657 00:34:05,854 --> 00:34:10,084 Well, but again, we're not talking about like the drug itself with 658 00:34:10,084 --> 00:34:10,314 you. 659 00:34:10,324 --> 00:34:11,784 It did, it worked as intended. 660 00:34:11,784 --> 00:34:15,024 It's, it's, but you know, what has popped into my mind that 661 00:34:15,024 --> 00:34:19,954 we've talked about a lot is our emotional reactions to non emotional 662 00:34:19,974 --> 00:34:20,704 things. 663 00:34:21,074 --> 00:34:26,904 Why, you know, when something upsets us at work or in life, like we get, You know, 664 00:34:26,924 --> 00:34:30,464 I don't know if it's the RSD, if it's the catastrophizing, but it's like, we take 665 00:34:30,464 --> 00:34:36,564 it personally when I can't solve this problem that speaks nothing to how I am as 666 00:34:36,564 --> 00:34:42,864 a person, how giving or kind or loving I might be, I take it as a personal insult. 667 00:34:42,934 --> 00:34:44,424 Like, I am the dumbest, 668 00:34:44,654 --> 00:34:45,354 worst. 669 00:34:47,264 --> 00:34:50,544 You know, and so it's interesting that the residual effect from the 670 00:34:50,554 --> 00:34:53,544 drug, the medicine, I don't know what we're going to call the anesthesia, 671 00:34:53,954 --> 00:34:56,144 is the same thing as taking these 672 00:34:56,164 --> 00:34:59,754 hits, you know, in our, in our work and personal life. 673 00:34:59,774 --> 00:35:04,024 It's the emotional reaction that we're talking about, I'll 674 00:35:04,084 --> 00:35:07,704 Because it, it, you know, I'll give you a perfect example immediately. 675 00:35:08,814 --> 00:35:15,774 In, in the span of this 30 minutes that we were talking, we started talking about the 676 00:35:15,794 --> 00:35:23,999 in game experience of casting a hypnotic pattern, and We, in our, in our outline, 677 00:35:24,079 --> 00:35:26,929 we actually took the, the official, 678 00:35:27,604 --> 00:35:28,944 write that thing, an outline. 679 00:35:29,219 --> 00:35:30,369 Yeah, the outline. 680 00:35:30,629 --> 00:35:37,129 We actually took the spell and, and the, the condition, um, uh, from D& D 681 00:35:37,129 --> 00:35:44,579 Beyond, from the official things, and sure enough, yes, I did not know that you 682 00:35:44,619 --> 00:35:47,229 can snap people out of certain spells. 683 00:35:48,044 --> 00:35:50,954 I just suddenly was like, wow, I'm a terrible Dungeon Master. 684 00:35:51,074 --> 00:35:52,264 I just don't ever prepare. 685 00:35:52,274 --> 00:35:53,564 I don't ever do a good job. 686 00:35:53,564 --> 00:35:55,594 I don't ever know what I'm doing. 687 00:35:55,634 --> 00:35:56,044 It is hard. 688 00:35:56,124 --> 00:36:04,444 Like, it's so, it's a constant, ending, emotional reaction. 689 00:36:04,584 --> 00:36:09,349 And it's like us trying to Every single time we open our 690 00:36:09,349 --> 00:36:12,519 mouths to not go there, right? 691 00:36:13,329 --> 00:36:15,849 so if you take something that is, sure. 692 00:36:16,309 --> 00:36:19,609 I can absolutely see why that would be an emotional, emotional, it would 693 00:36:19,609 --> 00:36:20,899 give you an emotional reaction. 694 00:36:21,199 --> 00:36:24,429 It, I, I promise you it's 10 times worse for us. 695 00:36:25,179 --> 00:36:27,399 It's just ten times more, right? 696 00:36:28,144 --> 00:36:31,034 Now we're just pinging emotion back and forth because now I'm like, that's 697 00:36:31,204 --> 00:36:34,964 not your fault, it's my fault for not reading that sentence in game. 698 00:36:35,384 --> 00:36:36,784 I'm a terrible player. 699 00:36:36,904 --> 00:36:39,624 Why would anybody want to play games with me? 700 00:36:39,814 --> 00:36:40,364 I'm the worst. 701 00:36:41,794 --> 00:36:45,344 When I gear, there was no part of me being like shady by not 702 00:36:45,344 --> 00:36:47,904 I was reading that yesterday. 703 00:36:47,944 --> 00:36:50,754 I know you know that, but like, that's the, that was the 704 00:36:50,754 --> 00:36:52,734 gremlin that just hopped into my 705 00:36:52,764 --> 00:36:53,264 head. 706 00:36:53,994 --> 00:36:58,824 All ADHD friendship is, is just trading emotions back and 707 00:36:58,824 --> 00:36:58,864 forth 708 00:36:59,079 --> 00:36:59,679 and forth. 709 00:36:59,779 --> 00:37:00,729 Back and 710 00:37:01,404 --> 00:37:03,024 in really strange contexts. 711 00:37:03,929 --> 00:37:05,919 Alright, so we're rolling disadvantage. 712 00:37:07,029 --> 00:37:08,079 Something happens. 713 00:37:08,139 --> 00:37:11,919 We can't, you know, maybe we have friends that are rolling, I don't know, if 714 00:37:11,919 --> 00:37:13,399 they're rolling advantage, maybe they are. 715 00:37:13,409 --> 00:37:17,719 Maybe they, but they're at least rolling, you know, they're 716 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:21,174 rolling you know, rolling dice. 717 00:37:21,174 --> 00:37:22,404 We're getting out of this situation. 718 00:37:22,414 --> 00:37:23,834 We are still stuck. 719 00:37:24,254 --> 00:37:24,954 We're stuck. 720 00:37:25,034 --> 00:37:25,784 still stuck. 721 00:37:27,034 --> 00:37:28,164 can we do? 722 00:37:28,264 --> 00:37:29,494 What do we do? 723 00:37:30,264 --> 00:37:32,014 I have an answer, you're not going to like 724 00:37:32,014 --> 00:37:32,254 it. 725 00:37:32,434 --> 00:37:33,324 do have an answer. 726 00:37:33,454 --> 00:37:34,584 Meditate. 727 00:37:35,064 --> 00:37:38,264 Well, the answer to everything, like any. 728 00:37:38,939 --> 00:37:45,419 Any emotional or physical malady that we experience as human beings can 729 00:37:45,419 --> 00:37:52,099 be, if not solved, then lessened or unburdened with one thing, and it is time. 730 00:37:52,439 --> 00:37:56,839 And, and, and like a lot, and that's, that's especially because now I'm 731 00:37:56,839 --> 00:38:01,499 like weaving layers for you as someone who does suffer from time blindness. 732 00:38:01,799 --> 00:38:05,869 So I'm telling you who is suffering emotionally that the only way out of 733 00:38:05,879 --> 00:38:11,859 the suffering is to allocate the right amount of time to allow your mind 734 00:38:11,869 --> 00:38:13,869 and body to experience that thing. 735 00:38:14,474 --> 00:38:19,074 And I get the, the, the trap of that is expecting someone who has 736 00:38:19,324 --> 00:38:23,294 an already fraught relationship with time to be able to do that. 737 00:38:23,884 --> 00:38:27,024 Um, I remember, I don't know why this, like, memory just, 738 00:38:27,074 --> 00:38:29,764 uh, just came to my mind. 739 00:38:30,254 --> 00:38:38,194 When I was in probably late elementary or junior high, we, we had a DARE, Drug Abuse 740 00:38:38,194 --> 00:38:40,514 Resistance Education, kiddies, officer. 741 00:38:43,694 --> 00:38:46,794 Officer Laramie was our, and he, like, we had, like, we all, like, 742 00:38:46,804 --> 00:38:48,414 had to relate, like, he was our D. 743 00:38:48,414 --> 00:38:48,514 A. 744 00:38:48,514 --> 00:38:48,614 R. 745 00:38:48,624 --> 00:38:48,634 E. 746 00:38:48,644 --> 00:38:52,014 officer, and, like, all the kids, like, we looked forward to our time with 747 00:38:52,024 --> 00:38:56,454 Officer Laramie, and so he would come in and, you know, help keep kids off drugs, 748 00:38:56,524 --> 00:39:01,644 you know, like, no, he was very, like, dad energy, just, like, Like middle aged 749 00:39:01,644 --> 00:39:06,684 man, mustache, but he was char like he, and he was so kind and, you know, he's 750 00:39:06,684 --> 00:39:08,214 teaching us about drugs, basically. 751 00:39:08,214 --> 00:39:09,274 That was the best part about D. 752 00:39:09,274 --> 00:39:09,374 A. 753 00:39:09,374 --> 00:39:09,504 R. 754 00:39:09,514 --> 00:39:09,524 E. 755 00:39:09,534 --> 00:39:12,544 is that they're trying to keep you away from drugs while actively teaching 756 00:39:12,544 --> 00:39:14,644 you, like, this is a pipe versus a 757 00:39:14,664 --> 00:39:16,164 bong and 758 00:39:16,529 --> 00:39:16,839 Yeah. 759 00:39:17,219 --> 00:39:21,429 But I digress, but I will, I don't know why this has stayed with me locked in as 760 00:39:21,429 --> 00:39:25,959 a core memory, but there was a basically like what to do with a drunk person. 761 00:39:26,389 --> 00:39:32,279 And it was a unit on like smashing all of the wives tales about how you 762 00:39:32,279 --> 00:39:34,059 can help someone sober up faster. 763 00:39:34,309 --> 00:39:37,439 And he had this whole like, do not give them coffee because then you're just 764 00:39:37,439 --> 00:39:39,499 going to have a hyper drunk person. 765 00:39:39,509 --> 00:39:41,759 Do not put them in the shower because then you're just going 766 00:39:41,759 --> 00:39:43,099 to have a wet drunk person. 767 00:39:43,109 --> 00:39:46,459 Do not give them a greasy meal because then you're just going to have a 768 00:39:46,459 --> 00:39:48,069 drunk person with an upset stomach. 769 00:39:48,069 --> 00:39:51,639 Like going through all of these things that we were all taught, you know, 770 00:39:51,639 --> 00:39:53,759 would kind of like sober you up faster. 771 00:39:53,759 --> 00:39:58,579 And the whole point of this spiel was nothing sobers you up but time. 772 00:39:58,889 --> 00:39:59,489 Okay. 773 00:39:59,949 --> 00:40:04,929 When our hearts break, when we are going through intense emotions over 774 00:40:04,984 --> 00:40:07,584 you know, uh, love lost, love scorned. 775 00:40:08,284 --> 00:40:10,874 We all know this from experience, but when you're going through it, 776 00:40:10,874 --> 00:40:12,724 you don't, the only thing that's going to heal that broken heart 777 00:40:12,724 --> 00:40:13,914 of yours is time and distance. 778 00:40:13,914 --> 00:40:15,894 Like you just got to get far enough away from it. 779 00:40:16,224 --> 00:40:19,764 It's why there are phases and layers and levels of grief. 780 00:40:19,764 --> 00:40:21,734 Like you just kind of got to keep going. 781 00:40:21,974 --> 00:40:25,329 It's, it's something that universally, we as humans know, know, know. 782 00:40:25,679 --> 00:40:29,119 If not fixes, at least improves things, give it time. 783 00:40:29,129 --> 00:40:30,419 That's why that's an adage. 784 00:40:30,819 --> 00:40:32,339 And yet it is something that we 785 00:40:32,339 --> 00:40:34,209 don't do. 786 00:40:34,209 --> 00:40:37,029 We don't put it to, we do not give it, 787 00:40:37,309 --> 00:40:40,749 we, you, you expected to go under on Wednesday and come 788 00:40:40,759 --> 00:40:42,009 back up completely normal on 789 00:40:42,009 --> 00:40:42,599 Thursday. 790 00:40:42,769 --> 00:40:43,189 Mm hmm. 791 00:40:44,019 --> 00:40:45,929 And physically, I felt. 792 00:40:47,414 --> 00:40:48,554 Fine, for the most part. 793 00:40:48,554 --> 00:40:49,864 Physically, again, 794 00:40:50,259 --> 00:40:50,449 Yeah. 795 00:40:51,304 --> 00:40:55,184 you know, uh, so I just thought, well, I don't have COVID. 796 00:40:55,254 --> 00:40:56,394 I'm not, I don't have the flu. 797 00:40:56,424 --> 00:40:57,074 I'm not sick. 798 00:40:57,294 --> 00:41:01,044 I don't have, like, the, the correct excuse. 799 00:41:01,174 --> 00:41:01,544 I don't 800 00:41:01,724 --> 00:41:02,034 Yeah. 801 00:41:02,344 --> 00:41:02,804 excuse. 802 00:41:02,804 --> 00:41:04,234 But what is that excuse? 803 00:41:04,264 --> 00:41:06,064 That's, so, I mean, that's it. 804 00:41:06,064 --> 00:41:06,244 it's, 805 00:41:06,244 --> 00:41:06,644 like, 806 00:41:07,384 --> 00:41:07,904 Well, 807 00:41:08,194 --> 00:41:08,694 but it's, 808 00:41:09,194 --> 00:41:09,924 that excuse? 809 00:41:09,954 --> 00:41:10,444 I did, 810 00:41:10,454 --> 00:41:10,804 right. 811 00:41:11,074 --> 00:41:13,214 Like, that's not, so, you're right. 812 00:41:13,224 --> 00:41:18,464 Like, To be able to have friends around you and to be able 813 00:41:18,464 --> 00:41:20,684 to say, guys, I am so sorry. 814 00:41:20,974 --> 00:41:23,234 I don't have a good reason. 815 00:41:24,034 --> 00:41:25,294 cannot do today. 816 00:41:25,334 --> 00:41:26,174 I just can't. 817 00:41:27,104 --> 00:41:27,904 Exactly. 818 00:41:28,234 --> 00:41:28,914 And that, like, 819 00:41:28,924 --> 00:41:29,864 that's one of them. 820 00:41:30,244 --> 00:41:36,254 by the way, friend being yourself, because that was, that was the person 821 00:41:36,254 --> 00:41:37,804 that wasn't going to let me do that. 822 00:41:38,184 --> 00:41:39,024 Exactly. 823 00:41:39,714 --> 00:41:40,884 Exactly. 824 00:41:41,574 --> 00:41:44,024 But, It was Matt that was like, I have so 825 00:41:44,154 --> 00:41:45,114 Yes. 826 00:41:45,674 --> 00:41:47,194 got to snap out of it. 827 00:41:47,314 --> 00:41:48,534 What is wrong with me? 828 00:41:49,124 --> 00:41:52,644 Well, and, and here, here's the what what, if you want that. 829 00:41:53,574 --> 00:41:54,074 Well, what? 830 00:41:54,644 --> 00:41:57,454 like you, me and Evan are all especially bad at this. 831 00:41:58,564 --> 00:42:00,154 And I have a feeling we are not alone. 832 00:42:00,794 --> 00:42:06,664 When we are starting to, like, feel the effects of something, we 833 00:42:06,664 --> 00:42:08,344 think I could just push through. 834 00:42:08,474 --> 00:42:08,824 Yeah. 835 00:42:11,324 --> 00:42:13,044 999 times out of a thousand. 836 00:42:13,074 --> 00:42:18,724 It would be better if you would just take the day and try again tomorrow. 837 00:42:19,329 --> 00:42:23,179 Because ultimately what happens is when you try and just push through things, 838 00:42:23,179 --> 00:42:25,729 you cause more damage and have to stay. 839 00:42:25,899 --> 00:42:30,539 And I would rather have, I would rather lose you fully for a day and have you 840 00:42:30,539 --> 00:42:33,389 at a hundred percent tomorrow or 75%. 841 00:42:33,439 --> 00:42:36,389 Why do I have this expectation that anybody's ever at a hundred, right? 842 00:42:37,254 --> 00:42:40,014 But instead what happens when we try and push through is that we 843 00:42:40,014 --> 00:42:43,274 deplete our, and now we can get to the whole like short rest long rest 844 00:42:43,274 --> 00:42:46,704 discussion again, like where you're not allowing yourself to fully heal. 845 00:42:46,714 --> 00:42:50,644 So instead of like you're, you're, you know, a good day, let's say, let's say 846 00:42:50,644 --> 00:42:54,394 a good day your ceiling is 85 percent because I just think 100 percent is way 847 00:42:54,394 --> 00:42:56,034 too much to ever ask of anybody, okay? 848 00:42:56,509 --> 00:43:00,719 So that's like, I've gotten my rest, I've restored all my spell slots, like I have 849 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:02,729 all of my provisions, I am ready to go. 850 00:43:02,769 --> 00:43:04,449 I'm gonna be at about 85 percent 851 00:43:04,449 --> 00:43:04,839 today. 852 00:43:06,059 --> 00:43:11,129 But when you're pushing it, you're maybe at 60%, maybe at 25%, right? 853 00:43:11,419 --> 00:43:14,339 And the longer you push, the longer you stay at this, and 854 00:43:14,339 --> 00:43:16,059 it continuously goes down. 855 00:43:16,079 --> 00:43:20,644 So like, I could have been at 85 if I had just rested today and gotten there, 856 00:43:20,644 --> 00:43:23,584 but instead I'm going to come in and my ceiling today is only going to be 60. 857 00:43:23,794 --> 00:43:25,354 And I'm going to keep pushing through today too. 858 00:43:25,354 --> 00:43:27,314 So tomorrow my ceiling is only going to be 40. 859 00:43:27,534 --> 00:43:29,724 And now we've gotten to the end of the week and we're at 860 00:43:29,724 --> 00:43:31,224 these incredibly low level 861 00:43:31,244 --> 00:43:31,814 levels. 862 00:43:32,044 --> 00:43:36,044 Whereas if we just stayed down, if we had just respected time and 863 00:43:36,044 --> 00:43:38,894 had said, fine, I, yes, I give in. 864 00:43:38,924 --> 00:43:41,054 I'm just going to stay in my PJs. 865 00:43:41,464 --> 00:43:42,194 I'm going to rest. 866 00:43:42,214 --> 00:43:42,984 I'm going to zone out. 867 00:43:42,984 --> 00:43:46,484 I'm not going to use any of the limited mental energy and physical 868 00:43:46,484 --> 00:43:47,604 energy that I'm already dealing 869 00:43:47,604 --> 00:43:47,814 with. 870 00:43:49,014 --> 00:43:53,284 But we don't, and I do not say that to point fingers at you or Evan, especially. 871 00:43:53,324 --> 00:43:55,514 I'm saying I am just as guilty, like, 872 00:43:55,514 --> 00:43:57,669 but how do We Yeah, 873 00:43:58,474 --> 00:43:59,104 um, 874 00:43:59,659 --> 00:44:00,799 it's the boomer's fault. 875 00:44:00,849 --> 00:44:01,509 There it is. 876 00:44:01,879 --> 00:44:03,839 Boomer blame is back in season 877 00:44:03,839 --> 00:44:04,339 three. 878 00:44:04,364 --> 00:44:06,724 little bit, it's a little bit, but it's a little bit. 879 00:44:06,724 --> 00:44:07,724 A little 880 00:44:07,999 --> 00:44:11,339 Yeah, we need, we need, we need A safe word. 881 00:44:11,479 --> 00:44:14,489 We need, we need the word that we can utter to each other that 882 00:44:14,489 --> 00:44:15,819 says, no, Matt I'm serious. 883 00:44:15,819 --> 00:44:16,759 Stay down, man. 884 00:44:16,859 --> 00:44:18,979 Like we, we should have enforced that. 885 00:44:18,979 --> 00:44:20,009 We should have said, you know what? 886 00:44:20,019 --> 00:44:21,279 You're taking Wednesday and Thursday 887 00:44:21,279 --> 00:44:21,544 off. 888 00:44:22,324 --> 00:44:25,294 What you're going through is going to be hard on you physically 889 00:44:25,344 --> 00:44:27,114 and emotionally and spiritually. 890 00:44:27,114 --> 00:44:27,369 I don't think 891 00:44:27,369 --> 00:44:30,004 it was that hard on you spiritually, was it? 892 00:44:30,664 --> 00:44:34,124 Um, you know, and like we should have, we should have been able to 893 00:44:34,124 --> 00:44:35,924 look you in the eye and say, kumquats. 894 00:44:36,959 --> 00:44:39,739 And with the uttering of the safe word, kumquats, you would have known. 895 00:44:39,749 --> 00:44:39,769 We're 896 00:44:43,319 --> 00:44:43,999 not messing around. 897 00:44:44,009 --> 00:44:44,469 I don't know. 898 00:44:44,564 --> 00:44:45,154 No, I love that. 899 00:44:45,194 --> 00:44:47,214 I think, I think you're a hundred percent correct. 900 00:44:47,634 --> 00:44:51,124 I think you are totally correct. 901 00:44:51,914 --> 00:45:01,091 And, and to your point, I am still, I'm, I'm still not at my 85, my allowed 902 00:45:01,189 --> 00:45:01,394 hmm. 903 00:45:01,394 --> 00:45:01,599 Mm 904 00:45:02,194 --> 00:45:04,504 So, because I've just been trying to push. 905 00:45:05,079 --> 00:45:05,479 hmm. 906 00:45:05,479 --> 00:45:05,799 Mm 907 00:45:06,519 --> 00:45:11,959 Keep on truckin Yeah, that's that has got that That mentality 908 00:45:12,149 --> 00:45:14,549 has got to be squashed. 909 00:45:15,379 --> 00:45:15,769 hmm. 910 00:45:16,499 --> 00:45:20,159 And I think you gotta, like, like there are days where I get up and 911 00:45:20,159 --> 00:45:22,109 I don't, I don't want to, right. 912 00:45:22,114 --> 00:45:23,069 I wanna stay in bed. 913 00:45:23,069 --> 00:45:24,239 I wanna keep my PJs on. 914 00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:25,879 I wanna go play BG3. 915 00:45:26,089 --> 00:45:29,639 One of the things that my very boomer father did, instill 916 00:45:29,659 --> 00:45:32,029 in me was take a shower. 917 00:45:32,699 --> 00:45:34,019 Get up and take a shower. 918 00:45:34,049 --> 00:45:37,829 Because the shower could be the thing that, like cha, you know, you might get 919 00:45:37,829 --> 00:45:38,759 outta the shower and be like, yeah, okay. 920 00:45:38,759 --> 00:45:38,969 I do. 921 00:45:38,969 --> 00:45:39,509 I do feel. 922 00:45:40,154 --> 00:45:44,924 Well enough to proceed or you take that shower and you still can't. 923 00:45:44,924 --> 00:45:46,594 And that's when you know, okay, I've tried. 924 00:45:46,614 --> 00:45:47,584 I've literally tried. 925 00:45:47,714 --> 00:45:48,874 I pulled myself out of bed. 926 00:45:48,874 --> 00:45:50,974 I took the first step in readying for the day. 927 00:45:51,634 --> 00:45:54,894 And I will say that as much as I hate to say that my dad 928 00:45:54,894 --> 00:45:56,354 was right about anything ever. 929 00:45:58,954 --> 00:46:02,544 Mom, if you're listening to this, don't tell dad about 930 00:46:02,544 --> 00:46:03,854 this part of the conversation. 931 00:46:05,124 --> 00:46:08,604 But he was right about that because I do know immediately after I take a 932 00:46:08,604 --> 00:46:12,044 shower if I can continue with the day or actually do need to go get back in 933 00:46:12,044 --> 00:46:12,224 bed. 934 00:46:13,144 --> 00:46:13,414 Yeah. 935 00:46:14,744 --> 00:46:17,534 And that, but that's, I mean, that's the equivalent of a safe word, right? 936 00:46:17,534 --> 00:46:19,204 Like the shower is my safe word. 937 00:46:19,214 --> 00:46:23,464 Is that like by, by virtue of doing that, I will then be 938 00:46:23,464 --> 00:46:25,074 influenced into what I actually 939 00:46:25,074 --> 00:46:25,294 need. 940 00:46:26,584 --> 00:46:27,104 Take a shower, 941 00:46:27,104 --> 00:46:27,594 everybody. 942 00:46:27,634 --> 00:46:28,554 Take a shower, everybody. 943 00:46:28,564 --> 00:46:36,254 Find that safe word is the, is the hope for a, you know, better experience. 944 00:46:37,984 --> 00:46:39,994 Um, way to help. 945 00:46:40,104 --> 00:46:43,704 I love this idea and I want to find my safe word. 946 00:46:43,704 --> 00:46:48,334 It's not going to be shower because I don't shower every day. 947 00:46:50,324 --> 00:46:51,074 I don't either. 948 00:46:56,874 --> 00:46:57,504 But, 949 00:47:01,274 --> 00:47:04,104 yes, but finding that safe word is so true. 950 00:47:04,234 --> 00:47:11,224 And that, that getting out of stunned, I mean, sometimes, just 951 00:47:11,224 --> 00:47:16,034 like the spell, some people can come in and say, snap out of it, right? 952 00:47:16,444 --> 00:47:20,444 And in, you know, in a positive way, in a helpful way. 953 00:47:20,444 --> 00:47:20,794 So. 954 00:47:21,669 --> 00:47:25,639 I'm now giggling because I like that you come in and snap 955 00:47:25,639 --> 00:47:26,879 and I come in and bitch slap. 956 00:47:26,919 --> 00:47:27,969 And that says a lot about 957 00:47:30,549 --> 00:47:32,019 the types of human beings we are. 958 00:47:35,849 --> 00:47:37,179 Yeah, well, I like this. 959 00:47:37,259 --> 00:47:38,319 I like this, Alison. 960 00:47:38,689 --> 00:47:44,559 I will try to do better about just being, being aware and 961 00:47:44,569 --> 00:47:46,589 being like, Hey, guess what? 962 00:47:47,059 --> 00:47:48,399 And I, I'm stunned. 963 00:47:48,519 --> 00:47:49,809 I have the stunned condition. 964 00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:52,049 I'm incapacitated. 965 00:47:53,259 --> 00:47:54,489 Don't try and push through. 966 00:47:54,799 --> 00:47:56,089 Let your party come rescue 967 00:47:56,089 --> 00:47:56,509 you. 968 00:47:57,209 --> 00:47:58,909 Or your foes kill you. 969 00:47:59,324 --> 00:48:02,564 Yeah, you don't want to die from ADHD. 970 00:48:05,974 --> 00:48:07,354 You don't want, don't want 971 00:48:07,364 --> 00:48:08,674 RSD to kill you. 972 00:48:08,989 --> 00:48:11,789 This wasn't going to be the death saving throw episode, Matt. 973 00:48:11,799 --> 00:48:12,839 That's later in the season. 974 00:48:14,594 --> 00:48:15,334 Oh God. 975 00:48:17,164 --> 00:48:19,504 With that, I'm going to, you know, 976 00:48:22,784 --> 00:48:23,564 come up with my 977 00:48:26,024 --> 00:48:27,784 safe word the rest of the day. 978 00:48:27,824 --> 00:48:29,544 Yeah, let's come up with our save word. 979 00:48:29,574 --> 00:48:31,024 Let's go have a good meeting. 980 00:48:31,034 --> 00:48:33,944 This was a good, good, good episode three. 981 00:48:35,074 --> 00:48:38,604 Thanks for, thanks for bringing us a great topic and your full 982 00:48:38,614 --> 00:48:41,854 honesty about like what you were going through and experiencing. 983 00:48:42,099 --> 00:48:48,729 You know people, yeah, it's, it's people say over and over that they. 984 00:48:49,834 --> 00:48:55,004 Uh, even if we, even if we get embarrassed talking about these things ourselves, for 985 00:48:55,214 --> 00:48:55,784 We do. 986 00:48:56,154 --> 00:49:02,084 um, they're still glad that we're talking about them, so, go on out there. 987 00:49:04,004 --> 00:49:06,024 It actually takes a long time, at least in Chicago. 988 00:49:06,024 --> 00:49:07,864 Go on out there, if you're of age. 989 00:49:09,129 --> 00:49:11,629 Don't worry about it before, but if you're of age, go ahead 990 00:49:11,639 --> 00:49:12,989 and book that colonoscopy. 991 00:49:12,989 --> 00:49:13,799 Treat 992 00:49:14,254 --> 00:49:15,064 Treat yourself. 993 00:49:15,064 --> 00:49:15,929 Yep. 994 00:49:15,929 --> 00:49:17,659 You know. 995 00:49:18,889 --> 00:49:23,629 And, uh, and if you have a reaction to the anesthesia the way I did, give me 996 00:49:23,629 --> 00:49:27,199 a, give me a, me a, uh, give me a call. 997 00:49:27,269 --> 00:49:27,909 Give me a note. 998 00:49:27,959 --> 00:49:28,629 Give me a text. 999 00:49:28,629 --> 00:49:30,519 I'll, I'll help you through it, because I've been there. 1000 00:49:30,519 --> 00:49:31,189 Yeah. 1001 00:49:31,819 --> 00:49:34,959 The Price is Right got "don't forget to spay or neuter is the platform of 1002 00:49:35,359 --> 00:49:37,799 ADHd20 "don't forget to schedule your 1003 00:49:37,819 --> 00:49:38,439 colonoscopy? 1004 00:49:38,439 --> 00:49:40,549 I think so. 1005 00:49:40,949 --> 00:49:41,789 I think we found it. 1006 00:49:41,899 --> 00:49:42,239 Yeah. 1007 00:49:42,609 --> 00:49:42,939 Yeah. 1008 00:49:42,939 --> 00:49:44,369 Take care of yourself. 1009 00:49:45,049 --> 00:49:46,229 Take care everybody. 1010 00:49:46,229 --> 00:49:47,729 Pew pew!