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Hello everyone and welcome to Bikinis
After Babies.

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Thank you so much for joining us today.

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I am one of your hosts, Mandy Rochon here
with your other lovely host.

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Hello everyone!

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Thank you for tuning in.

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We're so excited to have you.

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We're back with another episode and today
we're gonna be doing a June Q &A.

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But first, we like to always begin with a
little touch base and see what we're up to

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and just catch you guys up on where we're
at in our journeys.

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So Mandy, why don't you share with
everybody how your reverse is going and

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what you've been getting up to.

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Looks like you've been having lots of fun.

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this last weekend was absolutely
fantastic.

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This was my very first weekend.

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This was my very first weekend at home in
about six weeks.

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It was my first Friday in my own bed in
about six weekends.

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And that is incredible.

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It was just so relaxing.

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I haven't been able to just relax.

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and so long to the point where really a
majority of my weekend was like, what do

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you want to do?

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What do you want to do?

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And actually we got a lot accomplished,
but we just had a really good time.

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We chilled.

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I spent time, you know, with my husband.

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We went to a river market here in Kansas
city, walked around.

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I feel like I got so many steps in, walked
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we went biking.

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Really this weekend was just super chill.

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We finished off.

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We had one more soccer game and then we
have no soccer until August.

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So everything's really just coming.

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I know no camps.

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Yes.

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It's getting there because Wednesday of
last week I was like, my gosh, I need my

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chicken cooked.

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I need this stuff done.

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I need to pack my food.

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And I'm like, no, you don't, Mandy.

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No, you don't.

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Like, it's OK.

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But no, we also had some pretty fun dates.

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We, you know, just.

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We went out to lunch, we went out to
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It was an epic fail.

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I don't.

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I don't want to waste my calories on not
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joking with my coach about that.

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I was like, I'm not wasting my calories on
shitty food.

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So long story short, Erin planned and
booked a murder mystery for us to go to,

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just something different.

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And the way that it read was it was
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like an immersive thing.

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So I was really excited for it, read the
menu.

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I was like, this is super easy, really
nice like chicken piccata with these

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garlic herb potatoes, you know, and it was
hosted at a five -star hotel downtown.

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Yeah.

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we went there, the show was running late.

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It was kind of messy.

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It was just chaotic, but that was okay.

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It's just like a fun show.

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But I just spent six weekends being around
masses of people.

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And I just, I didn't realize how immersive
this was gonna be and neither did Erin.

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So like we're in this murder mystery and
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Here's like a sheet of paper.

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Go talk to all these people.

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It's like a room of 80 people.

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And I'm like, what did I just do?

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Like, I just want to sit here and eat my
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And then on top of that, they were delayed
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They, I don't know what happened with
that, but the dinner didn't arrive until

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like over an hour later.

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I was hungry.

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And for you listeners, I don't get angry
hungry.

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I get more sad hungry.

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So like, I just get frustrated.

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I usually might cry or just out of
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But this was so bad I couldn't stop
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Because when we did get our food, when I
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couldn't believe it.

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Like I couldn't believe it.

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And again, this is a five star hotel
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And they served us boiled chicken with an
ice cream scoop of shitty mashed potatoes.

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And I'm talking like cheap 99 cent
veggies.

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I looked at my plate.

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God.

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at Aaron and I just started laughing like
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I was like, I'm not gonna eat this.

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Like I'm far, I'm starving, but I'll wait
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He was like not having it because he
didn't want to eat it either.

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And so we got up, walked out and went down
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We already knew who the actors were.

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Like you could see the way that they had
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you immediately like if you were paying
attention, I guess, could tell like who

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was kind of the actors.

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So no, you could tell that Erin and I
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And so, no.

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But yeah, anyways, we walked out and we
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had dinner and it was really good.

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So yeah, but what about you at the very
beginning of your peak week next week?

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technically it starts tomorrow because I
compete on Friday of next week.

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So tomorrow is P -week.

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my god.

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It's just scary.

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Well, I've been ready like last week.

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I was like, I wish it was here now.

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Like, I just want to get on with it
because, you know, the ending of this.

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you know, show weekend coming up is like,
you know, I've been preparing for this for

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two years.

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So it was a lot of anticipation and, you
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I feel very prepared.

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I'm just like the worst is like the time
between prejudging and finals.

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And then I think waiting on the line and
waiting to see if you're in first call out

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and then kind of how that all plays out.

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Like that's that's the part that gets my
me nervous when I think about it, just

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because it's anybody's day.

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Everybody looks so good for a hot minute
there in between.

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And like right when I got home from DC, I
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people and like every big show that I saw,
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in and looking for the winner and
comparing myself.

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I'm like, I gotta stop.

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Cause I don't know what people are doing,
who's gonna show up.

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There's gonna be people I don't see coming
show up, new people or people that are

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coming back after a long break.

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So it just doesn't make any sense.

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It's a waste of energy.

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And so I just have to bring my best.

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And so I leave Tuesday, flying out.

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And yeah, I'm excited.

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We got to plan a little bit of a different
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just, you know, right for that show, the
one that means the most.

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And then we'll just see what happens and
then go from there.

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My season will not end after that.

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Regardless of the outcome, there is
another show two weeks later.

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It just depends on how universe goes,
where I'll be.

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So I have more hotels booked.

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you know, kind of depending on the outcome
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So we'll just see.

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So everybody can tune in.

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I'll actually link the livestream below
because it is active now.

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So I'm competing in Masters Bikini Over 40
at NPC Universe in Teaneck, New Jersey

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next Friday, July 5th.

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Holy shit balls.

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St.

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Louis watching the livestream.

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I know.

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And then I'm coming home on Saturday and
we're having a big dinner.

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Girls night.

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I'm so well and husbands.

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But but yeah, I'm excited.

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I'm letting you plan it.

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So so Brian didn't screw it up.

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I let you plan it.

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I can't wait.

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Well, it's just cool because like we
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life

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do a good job.

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You're like a very thoughtful person.

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And I'm that way for other people, you
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Colton back this way.

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And so I'm really excited just to, you
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mean, even like the last time we
socialized quite a bit, but I feel like

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one or both of us have been in prep.

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So it'll just be nice to, you know, and I
I'm the this is how I roll.

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I do not do what I say or do what I do,
but I have a cheat mail.

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that weekend.

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Like, I don't...

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I don't really overeat.

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Yeah, like some people, like when I was in
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the universe in four weeks.

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I'm probably not going to cheat.

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I'm like, like am I, am I a fat ass?

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Like, cause I, I was going to have a cheat
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And then Sunday I was going out to dinner.

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I'm like, I'm not not doing that for 19
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I've always done this.

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Right.

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And it, if anything, I feel like it gives
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You know, my weight within a couple of
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Like I just know my.

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and so regardless of when I'm what what
show I'm doing whether it's another

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national show or it's a pro show it's two
weeks later you know I've been at this

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stage condition for a couple of you know
four or five weeks now so I'm like it's

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not gonna hurt it'll be fine but I never I
like you'll see like I'm like I'm gonna

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eat all this I eat like five bites I'm
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excited yeah

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a difference, like, you know, your body,
so you know, like you can go do that.

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Whereas like somebody knew it's like, I'm
going to go eat a burger and fries.

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And then they go eat a burger and fries.

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And then they eat ice cream and then they
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then the exact, and it's just like, it
keeps going and you really don't know if,

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yeah, like I've tried different things
before, like to where I've gone out and

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a bunch of carbs.

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I've gone out and had a smaller meal and
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you know, like gone out the next day and
had like a big car breakfast.

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So I don't like it.

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I think it just depends.

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just the thing that I just have to stay
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me feel the worst out of everything.

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But it's not what I usually crave anyways.

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And I don't take anything with me.

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Like sometimes I'll take like, you know, a
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something.

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But like I don't have any, I don't have
anything packed.

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You know, but I mean, Brian's coming to
New York.

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So we'll go to dinner in New Jersey on
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Saturday and then Sunday.

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I'll just be back on plan.

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So I'm not worried about it, honestly.

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But I think that that it's just taken time
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my body and you know I've been able to
like increase my food over the last like

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four weeks so like I'm not really craving
anything you know just I just more food

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like I still have a lot of small meals and
I'm kind of like like it really smashed

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like a whole cup of rice right now but but
yeah so feeling good so excited and today

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we'll just kind of have a little girly
chat and do some Q &A because you know we

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get a lot of questions throughout the
month and we love your questions we always

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answer

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I don't save them for this podcast but if
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kind of went through and grabbed some of
the ones that I've been speaking with

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people about and so yeah yeah

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like, you know, common questions that we
kind of see, see here here a lot.

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It's just we start thinking about like,
well, we can easily talk about that on a

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podcast.

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So it's a perfect time to throw it all
together.

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So I thought it would be fun to start with
a rapid fire.

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So these are like questions that people,
yeah, actually put on like that intense

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like Jeopardy music, like, you know, so,
yeah.

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So maybe in post we can add some music.

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Just kidding.

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I don't know how to do that.

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We probably screwed up anyways.

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A rapid fire Q and a ready Mandy.

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Okay.

238
00:11:14,204 --> 00:11:16,104
So these are quick answers.

239
00:11:16,175 --> 00:11:21,437
Favorite workout clothing, outfit or brand
in prep shreds.

240
00:11:21,672 --> 00:11:23,292
I got Amazon.

241
00:11:24,692 --> 00:11:27,582
No, I actually really don't.

242
00:11:27,582 --> 00:11:31,682
It really is just Amazon because Amazon,
like, listen, here's the deal.

243
00:11:31,682 --> 00:11:37,772
I have gone to all like in -person brick
and mortar, all the cutesy little stores.

244
00:11:37,772 --> 00:11:38,952
Here's the thing.

245
00:11:38,952 --> 00:11:42,972
I've gone to the cutesy little crop top
shore stores that are called all these

246
00:11:42,972 --> 00:11:46,832
different names at the mall and they're
adorable.

247
00:11:46,832 --> 00:11:48,152
They look adorable.

248
00:11:48,152 --> 00:11:51,764
I go in there and the cute little crop
tops like 40,

249
00:11:51,979 --> 00:11:53,160
$50.

250
00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:58,760
I and again, no sure that crop top It's
ridiculous.

251
00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:04,440
I have learned to like go to Amazon look
at different stuff Majority of like the

252
00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:07,459
cute like you said you have the shreds you
kind of want to show them off you have

253
00:12:07,459 --> 00:12:13,580
these adorable crop tops or tank tops or
sports bras and You can order a haul of

254
00:12:13,580 --> 00:12:15,750
them and a lot of people will do this with
sheen too.

255
00:12:15,750 --> 00:12:20,913
They'll do sheen hauls Yeah, I like to do
Amazon exactly

256
00:12:20,913 --> 00:12:21,633
point.

257
00:12:21,633 --> 00:12:25,173
And Amazon's great because you can, you
know, because I think some of it's

258
00:12:25,173 --> 00:12:25,773
finicky.

259
00:12:25,773 --> 00:12:28,533
Like I'm picky about my leggings and my
shorts.

260
00:12:28,533 --> 00:12:29,512
And so.

261
00:12:29,512 --> 00:12:37,272
So I know that MomShall has like, we have
our Amazon storefront, but I daily, daily

262
00:12:37,272 --> 00:12:40,612
in -person DMs get asked about my clothes.

263
00:12:40,612 --> 00:12:44,312
And I always, I keep a store link.

264
00:12:45,072 --> 00:12:47,157
This is it, yeah.

265
00:12:47,157 --> 00:12:47,997
not a gatekeeper.

266
00:12:47,997 --> 00:12:49,437
I like to share.

267
00:12:49,517 --> 00:12:50,084
So.

268
00:12:50,084 --> 00:12:56,904
so like I will order a bunch of stuff from
Amazon because it's 19, 25, 14.

269
00:12:56,904 --> 00:13:00,464
And then if it doesn't fit, I'll just like
the next day I'll just go take it back.

270
00:13:00,464 --> 00:13:03,824
And then I'll just, usually it's like same
day credit or you can like, of course put

271
00:13:03,824 --> 00:13:05,683
it back on whatever card you bought it
with.

272
00:13:05,683 --> 00:13:09,784
But that, and also I will say recently has
been Target.

273
00:13:09,784 --> 00:13:13,384
If you're watching on YouTube, like this
top I'm wearing right now, it's a cute

274
00:13:13,384 --> 00:13:14,814
little like crop top tank top.

275
00:13:14,814 --> 00:13:17,184
I got it at Target for like $8.

276
00:13:17,684 --> 00:13:18,664
I love it.

277
00:13:18,664 --> 00:13:19,333
Love it.

278
00:13:19,333 --> 00:13:20,653
five percent.

279
00:13:21,793 --> 00:13:24,693
Okay, mine, okay, rapid, yes.

280
00:13:24,693 --> 00:13:30,163
Okay, so my favorite shorts in prep are
tiny waist shorts by Bombshell Sportswear.

281
00:13:30,163 --> 00:13:31,513
I love them.

282
00:13:31,513 --> 00:13:33,893
They don't dig into my thighs.

283
00:13:33,893 --> 00:13:36,033
They don't make my butt look weird.

284
00:13:36,033 --> 00:13:38,243
They aren't, they're just comfortable.

285
00:13:38,243 --> 00:13:38,733
I love them.

286
00:13:38,733 --> 00:13:40,413
I have them in every color.

287
00:13:41,033 --> 00:13:45,933
And then I love like our

288
00:13:46,580 --> 00:13:49,860
those cramp crop tops that have the U
shape here in the front.

289
00:13:49,860 --> 00:13:50,950
We're always wearing them.

290
00:13:50,950 --> 00:13:52,800
Like I have them in like 10 different
colors.

291
00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:57,940
The three, the three pack of the they're
like a sports bra crop top.

292
00:13:58,060 --> 00:13:59,600
I've been wearing the shit out of those.

293
00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,280
Yeah, I have them in every color.

294
00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:02,580
I don't either.

295
00:14:02,580 --> 00:14:03,560
I'll link it.

296
00:14:03,560 --> 00:14:07,450
But yeah, so typically like some sort of a
cute like crop.

297
00:14:07,450 --> 00:14:09,580
I don't like my boobs out of the gym.

298
00:14:09,580 --> 00:14:10,660
I just don't.

299
00:14:10,660 --> 00:14:13,830
So it's usually something that's I just
don't.

300
00:14:13,830 --> 00:14:14,450
I don't know.

301
00:14:14,450 --> 00:14:15,272
I just.

302
00:14:15,272 --> 00:14:21,112
like, it's just my, it, I do, like, I've
embraced it, like, all my friends, like,

303
00:14:21,112 --> 00:14:25,812
if you guys see me at the gym, I am always
wearing some low cut sports ball crop top,

304
00:14:25,812 --> 00:14:31,592
tank top, always, like, it's, you know
what, years ago, I just, like, it's, it,

305
00:14:31,592 --> 00:14:36,052
it fits my personality somehow, and it's
really cute, and my husband thinks it's

306
00:14:36,052 --> 00:14:40,016
cute, and it's just, it's me, even when I
go out to dinner.

307
00:14:40,016 --> 00:14:43,416
and a t -shirt, so anything you wear, your
boobs are out.

308
00:14:43,436 --> 00:14:44,386
So yeah, I try.

309
00:14:44,386 --> 00:14:49,356
I mean, I just try to maybe not have, you
know, I have really cute sports bras from,

310
00:14:49,487 --> 00:14:52,347
bomb shall I always end up listing them on
my car because I'm like, I'm never going

311
00:14:52,347 --> 00:14:53,107
to wear this to the gym.

312
00:14:53,107 --> 00:14:53,707
I'm just not.

313
00:14:53,707 --> 00:14:58,167
And well, and my my kid goes there, you
know, and I'm just like, you know, so

314
00:14:58,167 --> 00:14:58,587
whatever.

315
00:14:58,587 --> 00:15:01,287
But OK, that was really slow for a rapid
fire.

316
00:15:01,287 --> 00:15:03,867
We got rapid through these.

317
00:15:04,147 --> 00:15:06,107
OK, so this is a fun.

318
00:15:06,107 --> 00:15:07,157
I love this question.

319
00:15:07,157 --> 00:15:12,067
Guilty is pleasure, habit or activity that
you do in prep but would not do outside of

320
00:15:12,067 --> 00:15:12,907
prep.

321
00:15:14,888 --> 00:15:18,728
This might not be rapid, because I really
don't know, that I do inside of prep.

322
00:15:18,988 --> 00:15:23,408
Okay, I know, but I really don't know that
I do, because I like, I'm such a habitual

323
00:15:23,408 --> 00:15:26,608
person that I do inside prep.

324
00:15:26,688 --> 00:15:30,888
I think this, well, the stupidest thing I
do is I do cardio on the treadmill instead

325
00:15:30,888 --> 00:15:33,378
of walking outside, even when it's really
nice, I won't do that.

326
00:15:33,378 --> 00:15:34,668
It's weird.

327
00:15:34,668 --> 00:15:37,148
I think that's stupid though, it's not.

328
00:15:37,868 --> 00:15:40,608
Okay, you say some and it might click on
me.

329
00:15:40,608 --> 00:15:42,318
Like I might think of something.

330
00:15:42,374 --> 00:15:43,858
I have like.

331
00:15:43,858 --> 00:15:49,318
14 lists going in my notes of my phone all
the time and I'm fanatical about them and

332
00:15:49,318 --> 00:15:51,908
then once prep is over I will not touch
them or look at them again.

333
00:15:51,908 --> 00:15:58,898
It's like my training it's like I have
another list that's like to do's like prep

334
00:15:58,898 --> 00:16:02,658
to do's like for every single day it's
posing stretch training cardio food on

335
00:16:02,658 --> 00:16:05,818
point water intake and I have to take it
off every day.

336
00:16:06,118 --> 00:16:10,658
So that's another one that's kind of like
weird and then the other thing is I like

337
00:16:10,658 --> 00:16:14,338
binge watch shows like Love Island and
like

338
00:16:14,404 --> 00:16:20,904
match and then I'm like invested and like
I just think it's an escape from you know

339
00:16:20,904 --> 00:16:24,364
thinking about prep or thinking about how
hungry I am and I'm just watching like

340
00:16:24,364 --> 00:16:27,884
just you know hot people like date each
other on a beach and they're all couple

341
00:16:27,884 --> 00:16:31,924
swapping and I'm just kind of like this is
entertaining as shit and I enjoy it and

342
00:16:31,924 --> 00:16:36,204
every summer Love Island usually comes on
around the time that I'm prepping so it's

343
00:16:36,204 --> 00:16:40,784
like very nostalgic I'm like this feels
like prep you know so that's my guilty

344
00:16:40,784 --> 00:16:41,804
pleasure

345
00:16:42,056 --> 00:16:43,373
Really, like, everything?

346
00:16:43,373 --> 00:16:45,233
cells, I'm sure, watching it, but I don't
care.

347
00:16:45,233 --> 00:16:45,853
I do not care.

348
00:16:45,853 --> 00:16:46,732
I love it.

349
00:16:46,732 --> 00:16:51,785
I do in prep I almost like I just don't do
as intensely because I do the listing

350
00:16:51,785 --> 00:16:55,945
ditch when you're out of prep, like you
like any habits or anything.

351
00:16:57,405 --> 00:17:00,736
yeah, I never pose after, it's terrible, I
should but.

352
00:17:00,736 --> 00:17:02,396
really bad about it.

353
00:17:02,396 --> 00:17:04,976
Like I'll still, I've gotten way better at
it.

354
00:17:04,976 --> 00:17:07,376
Cause I have so many posing clients and I
help a lot of women.

355
00:17:07,376 --> 00:17:09,166
So I do it way more.

356
00:17:09,166 --> 00:17:09,526
Yeah.

357
00:17:09,526 --> 00:17:14,956
But before, but I will say, I mean, I
guess it's not really a guilty guilty

358
00:17:14,956 --> 00:17:16,756
pleasure, but it is kind of weird.

359
00:17:16,756 --> 00:17:19,736
I just being in like how we are, I do the
list thing.

360
00:17:19,736 --> 00:17:21,136
I actually have it on my phone right now.

361
00:17:21,136 --> 00:17:24,392
Even in my, even now, like in my reverse,
I still do it.

362
00:17:24,392 --> 00:17:28,532
I have a, I use my notepad and I have like
bulletin points and I'll lay out, cause I

363
00:17:28,532 --> 00:17:33,792
eat six times a day, I lay out like
protein, veggie, carb, and I know the

364
00:17:33,792 --> 00:17:39,692
grams in my head and I will just tick them
off and I'll do that like right now too.

365
00:17:39,692 --> 00:17:43,212
And it helps me especially like, okay,
Friday for example, it helps me a lot

366
00:17:43,212 --> 00:17:45,572
because like, I know how like Aaron and I
are.

367
00:17:45,572 --> 00:17:48,168
I know like most likely he's gonna wanna
go out to dinner.

368
00:17:48,168 --> 00:17:51,408
And I know like if we go out to dinner,
how am I gonna fit that into like my

369
00:17:51,408 --> 00:17:51,758
reverse?

370
00:17:51,758 --> 00:17:53,008
So like I'm mindful of it.

371
00:17:53,008 --> 00:17:57,128
And if I like have those tick marks, I'll
be like, well, I just won't, I'll use the

372
00:17:57,128 --> 00:18:00,185
carbs from this meal and move it to dinner
and stuff like that.

373
00:18:00,185 --> 00:18:00,865
actually.

374
00:18:00,865 --> 00:18:05,405
I should do that in my reverse as well,
because I'm just like, you know.

375
00:18:05,405 --> 00:18:09,385
I'm sure I go over, and I don't really
track much in my reverse.

376
00:18:09,385 --> 00:18:11,365
I just eat the same things.

377
00:18:11,645 --> 00:18:14,325
And I'm like, it's been five days since a
cheat meal.

378
00:18:14,325 --> 00:18:15,572
That's a good idea.

379
00:18:15,572 --> 00:18:17,012
I can't do the macro.

380
00:18:17,012 --> 00:18:17,932
Like I can't.

381
00:18:17,932 --> 00:18:20,172
You talk about our obsessive nature.

382
00:18:20,172 --> 00:18:24,482
You give me like, if you give me like,
you're supposed to eat this many, like,

383
00:18:24,482 --> 00:18:27,022
just give me 20 grams, six meals, let's
call it a day.

384
00:18:27,022 --> 00:18:28,797
I'll split it up and move it around.

385
00:18:28,797 --> 00:18:29,997
can take my macros.

386
00:18:29,997 --> 00:18:34,317
Like when I worked with a coach that did
macros, I would write out a meal plan and

387
00:18:34,317 --> 00:18:35,997
I would never track anything.

388
00:18:35,997 --> 00:18:38,967
Like I would just do that one day and then
I was like, this is what I'm going to eat.

389
00:18:38,967 --> 00:18:41,557
And I would just write it on like a piece
of paper and stick it outside of my

390
00:18:41,557 --> 00:18:42,397
fridge.

391
00:18:42,917 --> 00:18:45,067
cause I just, it's too complicated.

392
00:18:45,067 --> 00:18:48,507
And like, maybe if something came up, I
would then go in and retool it.

393
00:18:48,507 --> 00:18:50,507
But like, otherwise I really ate the same
thing all the time.

394
00:18:50,507 --> 00:18:54,377
But I love that idea for, cause then
sometimes I think, you know, that can

395
00:18:54,377 --> 00:18:56,507
happen where, you know, Hey, you want to
go out to eat tonight?

396
00:18:56,507 --> 00:18:58,222
And then you can kind of look ahead.

397
00:18:58,222 --> 00:19:00,302
Plan and then but then I also think too.

398
00:19:00,302 --> 00:19:04,902
It's good to kind of see Okay, like cuz
you can have a random Tuesday that you're

399
00:19:04,902 --> 00:19:07,602
going out with friends and you get to
Saturday and you're like I can have a

400
00:19:07,602 --> 00:19:11,302
cheat meal, but you kind of like forget
that you went out Tuesday And so maybe

401
00:19:11,302 --> 00:19:15,222
like keeping better better track of that I
think the list the list making is

402
00:19:15,222 --> 00:19:19,722
definitely goes away when I'm not in prep
because I think that is the one thing that

403
00:19:19,722 --> 00:19:23,582
I just need a little break from is the
rigidity and the structure and like I'm a

404
00:19:23,582 --> 00:19:28,325
pretty organized person anyways, but every
hour of my day is scheduled

405
00:19:28,325 --> 00:19:31,945
it's ticked off and there's to -do lists
and it's just a lot.

406
00:19:31,945 --> 00:19:35,785
So like I enjoy being spontaneous a bit.

407
00:19:36,005 --> 00:19:36,948
Yeah.

408
00:19:36,948 --> 00:19:38,608
is I did.

409
00:19:38,608 --> 00:19:42,138
OK, that is a little that is a thing that
has changed relatively recent.

410
00:19:42,138 --> 00:19:46,388
So like I am so good about during prep,
like I go to bed so early, like I'll go to

411
00:19:46,388 --> 00:19:48,428
bed at eight, nine, like I'll go super
early.

412
00:19:48,428 --> 00:19:49,738
I'll wake up four or five.

413
00:19:49,738 --> 00:19:53,428
And and then so that's where I'm like the
morning parent and then Aaron's like the

414
00:19:53,428 --> 00:19:54,048
night parent.

415
00:19:54,048 --> 00:19:55,948
And we've always divided and conquered.

416
00:19:55,948 --> 00:19:56,648
But we like.

417
00:19:56,648 --> 00:20:00,448
we have noticed how it's affected our time
together a little bit.

418
00:20:00,448 --> 00:20:04,148
Cause like it's seven o 'clock, I can't
start a movie if I'm gonna go to bed.

419
00:20:04,148 --> 00:20:08,668
And then he's busy at work and he can't do
anything till later.

420
00:20:08,668 --> 00:20:13,588
So I told him after the show that I'm
gonna mess with my sleep schedule to be

421
00:20:13,588 --> 00:20:14,948
able to stay up later.

422
00:20:14,948 --> 00:20:20,748
So now I stay up till like 11 ish,
midnight.

423
00:20:20,748 --> 00:20:23,748
Midnight's hard, but I'm getting there.

424
00:20:23,748 --> 00:20:24,918
I know.

425
00:20:24,918 --> 00:20:26,228
are you doing up so late?

426
00:20:26,228 --> 00:20:29,558
I read it this morning at four when I woke
up.

427
00:20:30,158 --> 00:20:31,104
that's so fun.

428
00:20:31,104 --> 00:20:35,004
like a five mile walk with some friends
and then came back from the friends and

429
00:20:35,004 --> 00:20:36,444
went straight into dinner.

430
00:20:36,444 --> 00:20:40,824
And then because we had nothing scheduled,
we just had this open time.

431
00:20:40,824 --> 00:20:45,554
We played Uno, which was so funny that my
husband forgot how to play Uno.

432
00:20:45,554 --> 00:20:47,704
Let's all laugh about that for a minute.

433
00:20:48,724 --> 00:20:51,774
And we had to read the rules.

434
00:20:51,774 --> 00:20:52,228
yeah.

435
00:20:52,228 --> 00:20:52,768
really was.

436
00:20:52,768 --> 00:20:54,858
And then we played Mario Party.

437
00:20:54,858 --> 00:20:56,988
So we had like kind of game night.

438
00:20:56,988 --> 00:20:58,408
It was fun.

439
00:20:58,828 --> 00:21:00,187
But okay, rapid fire.

440
00:21:00,187 --> 00:21:01,365
You said guilty.

441
00:21:01,365 --> 00:21:04,805
That's probably why they have music on
when they do these so people don't like

442
00:21:04,805 --> 00:21:06,285
talk too much.

443
00:21:06,285 --> 00:21:09,375
Okay, favorite prep condiment or
seasoning?

444
00:21:09,375 --> 00:21:11,925
Don't explain why, just say what it is.

445
00:21:12,288 --> 00:21:15,048
hands down, no sugar added ketchup.

446
00:21:15,088 --> 00:21:17,808
Mm, live off that, love it.

447
00:21:17,808 --> 00:21:22,068
Or salsa, hot sauce, everything bagel
seasoning.

448
00:21:23,405 --> 00:21:24,705
one.

449
00:21:24,825 --> 00:21:26,485
I'm just kidding.

450
00:21:26,725 --> 00:21:28,065
Okay, I have one.

451
00:21:28,065 --> 00:21:30,145
I don't I don't play around.

452
00:21:30,185 --> 00:21:33,765
It's I know girl I could take a bath in
this stuff.

453
00:21:33,765 --> 00:21:37,978
It is Melinda's truffle hot sauce.

454
00:21:40,236 --> 00:21:42,444
I love this shit, it's so good.

455
00:21:42,444 --> 00:21:44,236
try it, I haven't tried it yet.

456
00:21:44,236 --> 00:21:48,236
I'll give, I have it in, I have a big box
of 200 packets coming today.

457
00:21:48,236 --> 00:21:53,596
You can buy it in bottles, but I hate
measuring condiments.

458
00:21:53,596 --> 00:21:54,136
It's so annoying.

459
00:21:54,136 --> 00:21:56,806
I'm like licking the little baby tiny
teaspoon.

460
00:21:56,806 --> 00:22:00,836
And then with traveling so much, I've been
on like frigging 12 trips as prep.

461
00:22:00,836 --> 00:22:02,046
It just makes it simple.

462
00:22:02,046 --> 00:22:03,136
Good for measuring.

463
00:22:03,136 --> 00:22:05,776
Now I can, you know, and I can measure
sodium, things like that.

464
00:22:05,776 --> 00:22:06,746
It's prep friendly.

465
00:22:06,746 --> 00:22:08,296
I will link it below.

466
00:22:08,296 --> 00:22:09,066
It's so good.

467
00:22:09,066 --> 00:22:09,776
It's good on anything.

468
00:22:09,776 --> 00:22:10,606
It's good on eggs.

469
00:22:10,606 --> 00:22:11,936
It's good on everything.

470
00:22:11,936 --> 00:22:13,136
It's my absolute favorite.

471
00:22:13,136 --> 00:22:14,716
There is nothing I love more.

472
00:22:15,144 --> 00:22:16,064
Yeah.

473
00:22:16,343 --> 00:22:20,443
and I'm gonna skip past the next one
because that's gonna be too long.

474
00:22:20,743 --> 00:22:22,523
We'll save that for another one.

475
00:22:22,523 --> 00:22:24,503
Favorite exercise for upper body?

476
00:22:24,503 --> 00:22:25,860
Just one.

477
00:22:27,304 --> 00:22:30,324
lateral raises, shoulder lat raise.

478
00:22:31,904 --> 00:22:32,744
Yours.

479
00:22:35,324 --> 00:22:36,820
Yeah.

480
00:22:37,032 --> 00:22:38,872
like that motion.

481
00:22:39,532 --> 00:22:41,402
Favorite exercise for lower body.

482
00:22:41,402 --> 00:22:42,702
This is so personal.

483
00:22:42,702 --> 00:22:44,634
Everybody has a different one.

484
00:22:46,248 --> 00:22:51,258
recently actually mine changed reverse
hack squat

485
00:22:53,101 --> 00:22:54,581
good one.

486
00:22:55,741 --> 00:23:01,341
Okay, I have a machine that isn't at my
gym, but it is at Gold's in Teterboro, New

487
00:23:01,341 --> 00:23:03,841
Jersey, which I will be visiting next week
twice.

488
00:23:03,841 --> 00:23:05,861
Can't wait to see my people there.

489
00:23:05,861 --> 00:23:07,021
It's the best gym.

490
00:23:07,021 --> 00:23:09,901
It's like one of the last Gold's gyms in
this country.

491
00:23:09,901 --> 00:23:11,501
Anyways, they have this machine.

492
00:23:11,501 --> 00:23:16,141
I don't know what it's called, but you put
your legs in it and then you like you put

493
00:23:16,141 --> 00:23:20,721
a little belt on and then you push your
legs out in like an adductor.

494
00:23:22,444 --> 00:23:24,364
our gym has something like that.

495
00:23:24,364 --> 00:23:26,008
No, our gym has that.

496
00:23:26,008 --> 00:23:28,928
them, but mine doesn't and it is like the
best machine.

497
00:23:28,928 --> 00:23:32,608
Cause it's a, it's like a hip thrust, but
also an adductor.

498
00:23:32,608 --> 00:23:34,308
It's the tits.

499
00:23:34,308 --> 00:23:35,176
Yeah.

500
00:23:35,176 --> 00:23:36,416
belt and yeah.

501
00:23:37,176 --> 00:23:39,216
man, we have it.

502
00:23:39,436 --> 00:23:43,936
And our our owner said that it took
forever.

503
00:23:43,956 --> 00:23:46,215
Our owner said it took forever to get.

504
00:23:46,215 --> 00:23:47,115
That's great.

505
00:23:47,115 --> 00:23:54,475
And if I don't have that, for me, the
exercise that has made like the biggest

506
00:23:54,475 --> 00:24:07,255
difference in my shape is Smith Machine
wide raise or wide leg deadlifts as game

507
00:24:07,255 --> 00:24:08,135
changer.

508
00:24:08,476 --> 00:24:14,346
I loved Smith I love Smith Machine wide
stance squats

509
00:24:14,346 --> 00:24:18,746
And I love those like reverse hypers too
on the Smith machine where you lay on the

510
00:24:18,746 --> 00:24:21,344
bench and you put your feet on the bar.

511
00:24:21,344 --> 00:24:24,076
that has that, that like is that.

512
00:24:24,076 --> 00:24:27,556
and I think that I always say to people
like I have to adapt everything because

513
00:24:27,556 --> 00:24:28,576
I'm so short.

514
00:24:28,576 --> 00:24:30,186
I have a whole bag of tricks.

515
00:24:30,186 --> 00:24:33,176
We're going to go to the gym to like make
everything hit the spot the way that it

516
00:24:33,176 --> 00:24:33,556
should.

517
00:24:33,556 --> 00:24:36,956
Like they have a hip thrust machine at the
gym I go to, but it doesn't work for my

518
00:24:36,956 --> 00:24:37,226
body.

519
00:24:37,226 --> 00:24:38,725
Like I feel like it's all quad.

520
00:24:38,725 --> 00:24:42,636
So I always do them in the Smith machine
with double benches and all this be like,

521
00:24:42,636 --> 00:24:43,696
you know, we have a machine for that.

522
00:24:43,696 --> 00:24:44,866
I'm like, yeah, yes, I know.

523
00:24:44,866 --> 00:24:46,516
I practically live at this place.

524
00:24:46,896 --> 00:24:50,936
But but yeah, that once you get that
exercise to work, it hits just right.

525
00:24:50,936 --> 00:24:52,589
It's just such a little like

526
00:24:52,589 --> 00:24:54,409
builds the peach.

527
00:24:54,729 --> 00:24:57,204
So yeah.

528
00:24:57,204 --> 00:24:57,604
at our gym.

529
00:24:57,604 --> 00:25:02,804
Cause we have two different hip thrust
machines and one is perfect for me.

530
00:25:02,804 --> 00:25:03,624
So it's great.

531
00:25:03,624 --> 00:25:05,344
But I'm also almost five, seven.

532
00:25:05,344 --> 00:25:09,184
And there's some girls that will do, it's
not really the hip thrust as other things,

533
00:25:09,184 --> 00:25:13,824
but they'll modify things around the gym
and use bench and all sorts of different

534
00:25:13,824 --> 00:25:14,684
stuff for things.

535
00:25:14,684 --> 00:25:16,659
But it's whatever works for our bodies.

536
00:25:16,659 --> 00:25:19,179
good segue into our full Q &A.

537
00:25:19,179 --> 00:25:22,759
And one of our big questions was booty
growth.

538
00:25:22,759 --> 00:25:28,159
And so the question I got was, I feel like
I've tried everything and my glutes will

539
00:25:28,159 --> 00:25:28,859
not grow.

540
00:25:28,859 --> 00:25:30,659
What are your tips?

541
00:25:30,696 --> 00:25:31,896
I feel like this was a perfect segue.

542
00:25:31,896 --> 00:25:33,516
Did you plan this?

543
00:25:35,676 --> 00:25:38,856
That was like a perfect segue.

544
00:25:42,516 --> 00:25:43,216
Flawless.

545
00:25:43,216 --> 00:25:44,516
this episode 30?

546
00:25:44,516 --> 00:25:45,916
It is!

547
00:25:45,916 --> 00:25:47,896
It's episode 30.

548
00:25:47,896 --> 00:25:49,375
We've come a long way.

549
00:25:49,375 --> 00:25:51,096
Okay, moving on, sorry.

550
00:25:51,096 --> 00:25:52,396
Oops, squirrel.

551
00:25:53,579 --> 00:25:55,440
Okay, booty growth.

552
00:25:55,475 --> 00:25:57,615
you have a beautiful, beautiful peach.

553
00:25:57,615 --> 00:26:01,835
So share with our listeners if you've
always had a beautiful peach or if you had

554
00:26:01,835 --> 00:26:04,255
to build that baby up from a pancake.

555
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:09,780
it wasn't a pancake, but I had to build
it.

556
00:26:09,780 --> 00:26:10,900
girl.

557
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:15,400
I will never forget when I realized I had
to build it and it was, I felt like, I

558
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:15,940
felt like that.

559
00:26:15,940 --> 00:26:17,224
I felt like Squirrel.

560
00:26:17,224 --> 00:26:20,444
I was backstage at a show and I was
talking to a girl and this was back in

561
00:26:20,444 --> 00:26:26,464
2022 and I was like just BSing with her
and she's like I just lift really heavy.

562
00:26:26,464 --> 00:26:31,164
She was a lot younger than me and she's
like I've just been lifting really really

563
00:26:31,164 --> 00:26:31,964
heavy.

564
00:26:31,964 --> 00:26:36,244
I after that show weekend I went to the
gym and I was like I wonder how heavy I

565
00:26:36,244 --> 00:26:37,284
could actually lift.

566
00:26:37,284 --> 00:26:42,004
Girl I was only hip thrusting like maybe
it was a straight bar for one and it was

567
00:26:42,004 --> 00:26:44,524
only like 60, 70 pounds.

568
00:26:45,184 --> 00:26:46,950
Yeah, no.

569
00:26:47,652 --> 00:26:55,312
girls listening, like do not underestimate
how strong we are with no, I just decided

570
00:26:55,312 --> 00:26:59,872
that day to hop on one of, this was a
different gym at the time, a machine and

571
00:26:59,872 --> 00:27:04,632
do a hip thrust and I easily could just
go, I can't remember exactly, but it was

572
00:27:04,632 --> 00:27:06,012
over 150, almost 200.

573
00:27:06,012 --> 00:27:11,402
And it was just like, of course it wasn't
easy, but I'm like, I can do this.

574
00:27:11,402 --> 00:27:12,512
Yeah.

575
00:27:12,512 --> 00:27:19,492
just, it's time and it's realizing that
you can lift heavy and it's lifting heavy.

576
00:27:19,492 --> 00:27:21,032
It is, that's what it is.

577
00:27:21,032 --> 00:27:22,232
So that's what, like what?

578
00:27:22,232 --> 00:27:26,072
I took 2023 off, that was the rest of
2022.

579
00:27:26,632 --> 00:27:29,972
And so now I've just been lifting heavy
even with my back injury like I just

580
00:27:29,972 --> 00:27:34,592
modify things like or back pain I don't
want to say injury like hip issues But

581
00:27:34,592 --> 00:27:37,912
like I just modify stuff like there's
workouts that i'm like, this doesn't feel

582
00:27:37,912 --> 00:27:42,072
good today Or this doesn't you know, I
can't do this and I still lift heavy I

583
00:27:42,072 --> 00:27:48,152
just might have to drop weight or change
the machine and like It works So what

584
00:27:48,152 --> 00:27:50,992
about you, especially being especially
like in your 40s?

585
00:27:50,992 --> 00:27:54,632
Like i'm not there yet, but you've been
you know, growing your glutes.

586
00:27:54,632 --> 00:27:55,993
What is your advice?

587
00:27:55,993 --> 00:27:58,293
well, so I have several challenges.

588
00:27:58,293 --> 00:28:02,423
I don't really have the genetics for like
this sport at all.

589
00:28:02,423 --> 00:28:04,043
I've had to really just build my body.

590
00:28:04,043 --> 00:28:08,053
Like I was, you know, athletic in high
school and college.

591
00:28:08,053 --> 00:28:12,383
Like I was a cheerleader, but like I, you
know, don't, I don't come from like a line

592
00:28:12,383 --> 00:28:15,923
of athletes and people with, you know,
great structure and whatnot.

593
00:28:15,923 --> 00:28:18,403
So, so yeah, I really had to build my
glutes.

594
00:28:18,403 --> 00:28:23,563
So, but by the time I started to really
get into like progressive overload and

595
00:28:23,563 --> 00:28:25,870
like actively trying to grow my glutes, I
just hit a

596
00:28:25,870 --> 00:28:30,790
because I'd been training for so long and
my body was just kind of like more of the

597
00:28:30,790 --> 00:28:36,250
same and so I realized a lot of mistakes
that I was making one of them was under

598
00:28:36,250 --> 00:28:37,720
eating so

599
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:38,570
was about to say.

600
00:28:38,570 --> 00:28:39,344
Yeah.

601
00:28:39,344 --> 00:28:43,924
dieting, you know, that doesn't really
help you, you know, perform your best.

602
00:28:43,924 --> 00:28:48,544
So new old way, dieting new way is, you
know, timing my carbohydrates around my

603
00:28:48,544 --> 00:28:52,984
workouts, which for me looks like 60 or 70
% of the carbs that I eat for the day are

604
00:28:52,984 --> 00:28:57,344
like in the morning around my workouts
before and after.

605
00:28:57,404 --> 00:29:00,274
And so that has that strategy has really
worked for me.

606
00:29:00,274 --> 00:29:05,944
And then heavy lifting, yes, but
intensity.

607
00:29:05,944 --> 00:29:08,557
Like I don't think that until I met

608
00:29:08,557 --> 00:29:10,797
James, who's my current coach.

609
00:29:10,797 --> 00:29:12,877
I don't think that I focused on intensity.

610
00:29:12,877 --> 00:29:18,157
I was just like, this girl I follow on
Instagram can hip thrust 280 pounds.

611
00:29:18,157 --> 00:29:20,057
I'm going to make that my goal.

612
00:29:20,057 --> 00:29:22,597
It's totally not even the best exercise
for my body.

613
00:29:22,597 --> 00:29:24,977
And I'm trying to, what am I doing?

614
00:29:24,977 --> 00:29:30,497
So I really started to focus on intensity
and, that's been a game changer, you know,

615
00:29:30,497 --> 00:29:34,727
like really just getting to the point
where you can't even complete, you know,

616
00:29:34,727 --> 00:29:38,431
two more reps, but then you do it anyways,
training to that level.

617
00:29:38,431 --> 00:29:39,151
intensity.

618
00:29:39,151 --> 00:29:43,871
I mean, I used to get stressed about going
to the gym in a good way, but nervous

619
00:29:43,871 --> 00:29:47,211
because I'm like, you know, I got to
really think about, you know, this

620
00:29:47,211 --> 00:29:49,271
exercise and getting that really pushing.

621
00:29:49,271 --> 00:29:53,111
Did I push hard enough leaving the gym and
going like, did I really push myself

622
00:29:53,111 --> 00:29:53,321
enough?

623
00:29:53,321 --> 00:29:57,411
Once I realized, man, all these years, I
just didn't have the intensity in my

624
00:29:57,411 --> 00:29:58,391
training.

625
00:29:58,971 --> 00:30:03,231
so, so that was a big one was intensity
and just like, you know, okay, well that

626
00:30:03,231 --> 00:30:07,531
was, you know, 10 easy reps, like, you
know, let me make sure I take enough of a

627
00:30:07,531 --> 00:30:08,634
rest break so that I

628
00:30:08,634 --> 00:30:13,114
recoil and and come back and next set make
it harder.

629
00:30:13,394 --> 00:30:14,934
So that really helped.

630
00:30:15,012 --> 00:30:19,912
I feel like we also don't have to think of
when we are lifting heavy that we need to

631
00:30:19,912 --> 00:30:21,291
be a couple things.

632
00:30:21,291 --> 00:30:25,792
If you're lifting like 10 reps and it's
not easy, but it's challenging, but it's

633
00:30:25,792 --> 00:30:29,912
not like really challenging, you don't
have to sit there and add like plates onto

634
00:30:29,912 --> 00:30:30,232
it.

635
00:30:30,232 --> 00:30:32,772
Like add five pounds, add 10 pounds.

636
00:30:32,772 --> 00:30:36,252
Like babies, there's like little things.

637
00:30:36,932 --> 00:30:37,748
Exactly.

638
00:30:37,748 --> 00:30:41,258
lot of different ways, because I think
that what has happened is like, you know,

639
00:30:41,258 --> 00:30:44,268
you see these incredible feats of strength
and you're like, my gosh, look at this

640
00:30:44,268 --> 00:30:45,648
girl, how much she can deadlift.

641
00:30:45,648 --> 00:30:47,608
And like, it's not about that.

642
00:30:47,608 --> 00:30:49,998
Like the judges are never going to be
like, and how much can you squat?

643
00:30:49,998 --> 00:30:51,348
Like they don't care.

644
00:30:51,348 --> 00:30:52,916
And especially if you're hurt.

645
00:30:52,916 --> 00:30:53,817
about how much you weigh.

646
00:30:53,817 --> 00:30:54,167
hurt.

647
00:30:54,167 --> 00:30:59,217
Like the last thing I want to do at my age
is get hurt and like, who this house, this

648
00:30:59,217 --> 00:31:01,197
place would burn down without me if I was
hurt.

649
00:31:01,197 --> 00:31:03,597
So I I'm really cognizant of that.

650
00:31:03,597 --> 00:31:05,637
So, so yeah, I think that was huge.

651
00:31:05,637 --> 00:31:09,736
And then I think too, then other, another
thing was like doing a million different

652
00:31:09,736 --> 00:31:10,677
exercises.

653
00:31:10,677 --> 00:31:17,877
Like I've done the same like core
exercises for glutes for nine months.

654
00:31:17,877 --> 00:31:20,027
Like I found the things that worked.

655
00:31:20,027 --> 00:31:23,657
They are in every workout and they're in a
different sequence.

656
00:31:23,890 --> 00:31:27,220
but they're the same movements, you know,
I've got four leg days a week.

657
00:31:27,220 --> 00:31:29,550
That's the other thing is I train lower
body a lot.

658
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:34,430
but I, I do, I hit the same motions or
movements every week.

659
00:31:34,430 --> 00:31:38,390
And then as my like strength has decreased
in prep, I'm doing, like you say, like

660
00:31:38,390 --> 00:31:43,170
finding ways to find a little bit more
intensity, either doing like drop sets or

661
00:31:43,170 --> 00:31:49,370
like some forced reps, pulses holds like
squeezes, like on a kickback, you know, I

662
00:31:49,370 --> 00:31:52,930
might hold and squeeze at the top for like
five seconds until like my legs going to

663
00:31:52,930 --> 00:31:53,524
fall off.

664
00:31:53,524 --> 00:31:57,764
that's been ways to find intensity when
your strength decreases when your energy

665
00:31:57,764 --> 00:32:05,244
levels are like So Yeah, and then creatine
I take creatine which a lot of people are

666
00:32:05,244 --> 00:32:09,364
scared of but I wouldn't never stop taking
that I think it's amazing you have to make

667
00:32:09,364 --> 00:32:12,944
sure you stay hydrated but that's not a
problem, but I think that's been something

668
00:32:12,944 --> 00:32:17,756
that's been great for recovery and for
muscle growth, so I know I might

669
00:32:17,756 --> 00:32:21,596
I always think, cause it's a baby scoop,
you know there's little tiny scoops.

670
00:32:22,016 --> 00:32:24,136
A little creatine in the morning, baby.

671
00:32:24,136 --> 00:32:28,616
It's just, with my, with my drink for the
gym.

672
00:32:28,616 --> 00:32:31,336
But yeah, I feel like that.

673
00:32:33,616 --> 00:32:37,813
And then, I was gonna say it.

674
00:32:37,813 --> 00:32:42,133
I got my list up on the menu over here.

675
00:32:42,693 --> 00:32:47,033
Okay, how much time should you take off in
an improvement season?

676
00:32:48,776 --> 00:32:51,656
It's gonna be different for everybody is
the answer to that.

677
00:32:51,656 --> 00:32:53,916
I mean, every...

678
00:32:53,916 --> 00:33:00,416
So if you're getting done with a show and
your judges feedback is that you need more

679
00:33:00,416 --> 00:33:03,816
muscle definition, you know you need it,
your coach knows you need it, the judges

680
00:33:03,816 --> 00:33:05,276
say you need it.

681
00:33:05,276 --> 00:33:08,039
Really, I would look at...

682
00:33:08,039 --> 00:33:11,779
I want to say eight months ish timeframe.

683
00:33:11,899 --> 00:33:15,399
And when I say that you have to first
consider your first month or two.

684
00:33:15,399 --> 00:33:19,319
So your first eight weeks is going to be
bringing your calories up.

685
00:33:19,319 --> 00:33:22,609
So you have to still take away eight weeks
out of that.

686
00:33:22,609 --> 00:33:24,049
So you're bringing your calories up.

687
00:33:24,049 --> 00:33:25,539
You're getting into maintenance calories.

688
00:33:25,539 --> 00:33:27,209
You're starting to have more energy.

689
00:33:27,209 --> 00:33:32,519
You're starting to be able to be able to
lift probably what you were previously at

690
00:33:32,519 --> 00:33:32,829
the gym.

691
00:33:32,829 --> 00:33:35,769
Now that your calories are raising and
your energy is going back.

692
00:33:35,769 --> 00:33:38,354
And then now that you're kind of at that
level, it's a math.

693
00:33:38,354 --> 00:33:40,384
like, okay, we need to focus on growing.

694
00:33:40,384 --> 00:33:43,874
We need to keep trying to raise your
calories and keep getting you to a place

695
00:33:43,874 --> 00:33:46,674
where you're able to lift heavy and grow.

696
00:33:46,674 --> 00:33:50,254
So from there, I mean, that kind of turns
into six months, I would say.

697
00:33:50,254 --> 00:33:53,884
But even after six months, it's like, what
do you want to do?

698
00:33:53,884 --> 00:33:55,204
Are you wanting to go back to stage?

699
00:33:55,204 --> 00:33:56,194
Do you want to lean out?

700
00:33:56,194 --> 00:34:00,114
You can do, my gosh, I'm blanking out what
people call it, a mini cut.

701
00:34:00,114 --> 00:34:01,374
I think that's what it is.

702
00:34:01,374 --> 00:34:03,063
Where people, right?

703
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:07,600
where okay you're you're eating really
high calories you're doing a great job

704
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:11,000
you're been lifting heavy you kind of want
to see what you look like if you start

705
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,720
leaning out a little bit you're not really
wanting to commit to a long prep but you

706
00:34:14,720 --> 00:34:17,600
want to see what you kind of lean out or
lean out and look like a little bit so

707
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:22,020
then you do a mini cut and you kind of
drop some calories down see what it looks

708
00:34:22,020 --> 00:34:26,080
like see how your body reacts too because
what if you're what if you drop calories

709
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,832
and your cardio is really low and all of a
sudden

710
00:34:29,832 --> 00:34:32,892
your body's not responding to those
calories that are dropping.

711
00:34:32,892 --> 00:34:36,252
And so it's kind of just, you figure out
what works for you.

712
00:34:36,252 --> 00:34:40,032
But that would kind of be my way of
looking at it.

713
00:34:40,216 --> 00:34:45,716
I think it depends on the journey of each
person, you know, and also how long you

714
00:34:45,716 --> 00:34:50,336
were prepping for and what your season was
like and then what the feedback is, you

715
00:34:50,336 --> 00:34:55,196
know, and if you're real serious about it
and you got pretty far and let's say, you

716
00:34:55,196 --> 00:34:59,336
know, you won an overall at a regional
show, you went to nationals and you didn't

717
00:34:59,336 --> 00:35:01,356
place inside the top 10.

718
00:35:01,836 --> 00:35:04,196
I think you should take a couple of years.

719
00:35:04,316 --> 00:35:08,943
And here's why I think that because let's
say.

720
00:35:08,943 --> 00:35:11,823
you come back, you turn pro.

721
00:35:11,823 --> 00:35:17,403
You want to be able to go into the pro
league and be ready for the pro league.

722
00:35:17,403 --> 00:35:19,283
And you know, they have more muscle.

723
00:35:19,283 --> 00:35:21,343
These are very experienced athletes.

724
00:35:21,343 --> 00:35:25,883
So if you take off two years and you
really dedicate yourself to building

725
00:35:25,883 --> 00:35:29,903
muscle, you know, you, you behave like an
athlete, you're really intentional and you

726
00:35:29,903 --> 00:35:31,203
come back and eat your pro cart.

727
00:35:31,203 --> 00:35:37,713
Then you can go right into rather than
doing a, doing like eight to 12 months,

728
00:35:37,713 --> 00:35:42,171
then doing a six month prep competing at

729
00:35:42,171 --> 00:35:45,311
national shows, finally in your pro card,
then going to pro league, getting last and

730
00:35:45,311 --> 00:35:46,951
having to take another year off.

731
00:35:47,191 --> 00:35:50,471
So I think that saves time in the long
run.

732
00:35:50,711 --> 00:35:53,871
and then I also think it's person to
person because there are people that put

733
00:35:53,871 --> 00:35:59,251
on muscle fast, newer athletes, and you
can be a new athlete in your forties and

734
00:35:59,251 --> 00:35:59,891
fifties.

735
00:35:59,891 --> 00:36:03,596
I'm not saying young athletes, I'm saying
everyone's different, but if you're new,

736
00:36:03,596 --> 00:36:04,305
age.

737
00:36:04,305 --> 00:36:06,545
And yeah, you can put muscle on fast.

738
00:36:06,545 --> 00:36:09,115
You don't need to take that much time, but
everyone's a little bit different.

739
00:36:09,115 --> 00:36:11,145
And then also depends on how intentional
you are.

740
00:36:11,145 --> 00:36:13,725
If you're dicking around, you need to just
need more time.

741
00:36:13,725 --> 00:36:17,865
Like, and that just might be because you
are burnt out and you just need more of a

742
00:36:17,865 --> 00:36:18,625
break and that's fine.

743
00:36:18,625 --> 00:36:24,545
But you can't like have like a crappy like
year and then like do like four months of

744
00:36:24,545 --> 00:36:27,015
a build and be like, I took a year and
four months off.

745
00:36:27,015 --> 00:36:29,885
You didn't work hard that whole time.

746
00:36:29,885 --> 00:36:32,405
So because I see that a lot too.

747
00:36:32,676 --> 00:36:36,716
I've met, what's interesting about that is
like I've met more men that that happens

748
00:36:36,716 --> 00:36:37,056
to.

749
00:36:37,056 --> 00:36:40,996
I've met quite a few men that'll be like,
and they freely admit it.

750
00:36:40,996 --> 00:36:44,096
They're like, I ate like sh, after my show
I ate like shit.

751
00:36:44,096 --> 00:36:46,325
I was just a terrible eater.

752
00:36:46,325 --> 00:36:51,436
And they're like, yeah, they're like, I
just, you know, fucked around, whatever.

753
00:36:51,436 --> 00:36:51,912
And.

754
00:36:51,912 --> 00:36:54,672
then they're like, now I need to, now I'm
ready to get serious again.

755
00:36:54,672 --> 00:36:59,392
And then they'll do like a six month prep
and they'll go on stage, but it's like you

756
00:36:59,392 --> 00:37:00,602
said, it's like at what level.

757
00:37:00,602 --> 00:37:05,072
And then I think another thing is that to
really consider where it's person to

758
00:37:05,072 --> 00:37:10,292
person is not only how long was your prep
and how long were you in, you know, a prep

759
00:37:10,292 --> 00:37:12,672
low calorie, high cardio.

760
00:37:12,672 --> 00:37:14,252
What do your hormones look like?

761
00:37:14,252 --> 00:37:15,256
Is your body even?

762
00:37:15,256 --> 00:37:16,116
healthy are you?

763
00:37:16,116 --> 00:37:18,876
Yep, yeah, 100%.

764
00:37:18,876 --> 00:37:20,032
Yeah.

765
00:37:20,032 --> 00:37:22,242
like what is your estrogen and
progesterone?

766
00:37:22,242 --> 00:37:23,532
What is your cortisol?

767
00:37:23,532 --> 00:37:26,892
What is you know, your thought your t3 t4
like what?

768
00:37:26,892 --> 00:37:30,492
Where is everything is everything
plummeted and do you have to get

769
00:37:30,492 --> 00:37:31,932
everything regulated again?

770
00:37:31,932 --> 00:37:33,162
Are you gonna do that naturally?

771
00:37:33,162 --> 00:37:34,652
Are you gonna do it synthetically?

772
00:37:34,652 --> 00:37:37,362
Like how long are the how long is that
medication gonna take?

773
00:37:37,362 --> 00:37:41,332
Because if that medication is gonna take
several months, well, then your body's not

774
00:37:41,332 --> 00:37:45,226
even gonna respond to any metabolic
changes because your

775
00:37:45,226 --> 00:37:46,869
hormones are all over the place.

776
00:37:46,869 --> 00:37:48,489
how's your relationship with food?

777
00:37:48,489 --> 00:37:50,029
Like, how's your mindset?

778
00:37:50,029 --> 00:37:51,659
Like, how's your motivation?

779
00:37:51,659 --> 00:37:56,609
Like, if those things are all like in a
bad place, then, you know, you're going to

780
00:37:56,609 --> 00:37:58,769
need more time just to get those things
optimal.

781
00:37:58,769 --> 00:38:02,329
And I think putting pressure on yourself
of like, I'm just going to take six months

782
00:38:02,329 --> 00:38:04,369
off is just, you'll just be disappointed.

783
00:38:04,369 --> 00:38:07,709
It just comes a point where like, I think
once you've done, you know, a couple of

784
00:38:07,709 --> 00:38:14,053
shows, it's like, okay, next time I come
back, I don't want to just like, you know.

785
00:38:14,225 --> 00:38:16,225
look good, I want to be competitive.

786
00:38:16,225 --> 00:38:20,705
So if you want to be competitive, I think
it's just smart to, you know, get healthy

787
00:38:20,705 --> 00:38:24,925
and, you know, good digestion, good
hormones, good mindset, all of that, you

788
00:38:24,925 --> 00:38:26,135
know, really be solid.

789
00:38:26,135 --> 00:38:27,385
And it can be hard.

790
00:38:27,385 --> 00:38:32,225
Like it's a long time to think about
taking that much time off, but you don't

791
00:38:32,225 --> 00:38:33,435
have a lot more money in the bank.

792
00:38:33,435 --> 00:38:39,505
So like just save your money and it'll be
so worth it when you come back because you

793
00:38:39,505 --> 00:38:42,585
know, you'll really be able to look at
your body and go look at what I did.

794
00:38:42,585 --> 00:38:44,705
Like look at the improvements that I'm

795
00:39:03,052 --> 00:39:04,571
I

796
00:39:04,571 --> 00:39:08,091
people start like prepping and you're
like, not now, you know, but your time

797
00:39:08,091 --> 00:39:09,391
will come.

798
00:39:10,111 --> 00:39:11,211
Yeah.

799
00:39:11,231 --> 00:39:12,961
Seminars and going to things.

800
00:39:12,961 --> 00:39:13,951
Yeah.

801
00:39:13,996 --> 00:39:18,280
myself as an example for this because I
have gotten asked.

802
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,980
many times like when are you going on
stage again when are you going on stage

803
00:39:21,980 --> 00:39:28,100
again and my answer is so it's so rapid
rapid fire it's so rapid i'm like i have

804
00:39:28,100 --> 00:39:33,360
no idea like i have zero idea but my
answer is because of kind of everything we

805
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:37,260
named everything we talk one i've next
time i go on stage i want to be

806
00:39:37,260 --> 00:39:41,380
competitive not that i wasn't competitive
before but i know i wasn't conditioned as

807
00:39:41,380 --> 00:39:45,520
conditioned as i needed to be for my
physique to get as conditioned as it needs

808
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,008
to be the things that i need to do

809
00:39:48,008 --> 00:39:52,368
I just couldn't do anymore without being
an astronomical amount of pain with my

810
00:39:52,368 --> 00:39:52,728
hip.

811
00:39:52,728 --> 00:39:56,428
I knew that four weeks prior to going into
the Omaha show.

812
00:39:56,428 --> 00:39:58,778
I knew I could get to the Omaha show that
I did.

813
00:39:58,778 --> 00:40:03,108
I knew I could have fun, be competitive,
have a good time.

814
00:40:03,108 --> 00:40:07,628
And but I knew I wasn't as conditioned as
I could be because I couldn't my body

815
00:40:07,628 --> 00:40:08,748
wasn't going to do it anymore.

816
00:40:08,748 --> 00:40:09,868
It just wasn't.

817
00:40:09,868 --> 00:40:12,298
And I knew that and I accepted that.

818
00:40:12,298 --> 00:40:15,968
But I also knew after the show I needed to
get healthy.

819
00:40:15,968 --> 00:40:16,578
Right.

820
00:40:16,578 --> 00:40:17,832
And so

821
00:40:17,832 --> 00:40:21,472
I need to go back, focus on rest and
recovery and massage.

822
00:40:21,472 --> 00:40:23,782
I can't do high cardio right now.

823
00:40:23,782 --> 00:40:29,232
I can't, even my cardio didn't get that
high, but like I couldn't do, I can't even

824
00:40:29,232 --> 00:40:29,662
remember what it was.

825
00:40:29,662 --> 00:40:34,062
I think I got like 60 minutes, 40 minutes,
like in between that range.

826
00:40:34,062 --> 00:40:38,592
But I also had to do it on an incline and
on a treadmill and early in the morning.

827
00:40:38,592 --> 00:40:40,372
And then I was traveling a lot.

828
00:40:40,372 --> 00:40:44,616
So, but I had to listen to my body tell
me.

829
00:40:44,616 --> 00:40:45,996
Like this is what I have to do.

830
00:40:45,996 --> 00:40:51,536
If I want to be competitive next go round,
then, you know, let's enjoy the

831
00:40:51,536 --> 00:40:57,516
improvement season, love my body for what
it can do, heal, recover, you know, of

832
00:40:57,516 --> 00:41:01,336
course get hormones checked, everything,
you know, do all of the work, do all the

833
00:41:01,336 --> 00:41:05,596
health and go into an improvement season
until I can come back and be competitive

834
00:41:05,596 --> 00:41:06,816
and be healthy.

835
00:41:06,816 --> 00:41:10,187
So it's like, you know, everything we kind
of just touched on.

836
00:41:10,187 --> 00:41:12,237
every it's, it's not a straight answer.

837
00:41:12,237 --> 00:41:16,317
You know, there's just so many different,
but I think, you know, I think building

838
00:41:16,317 --> 00:41:18,957
muscle is the key to the sport.

839
00:41:18,977 --> 00:41:20,637
This division is bodybuilding.

840
00:41:20,637 --> 00:41:23,537
Like even though it's bikini bodybuilding,
it's still bodybuilding.

841
00:41:23,537 --> 00:41:26,177
So you have to build your body if you want
to be competitive.

842
00:41:26,217 --> 00:41:27,847
So, so yeah.

843
00:41:27,847 --> 00:41:28,157
Okay.

844
00:41:28,157 --> 00:41:29,537
Next question.

845
00:41:29,957 --> 00:41:30,837
sorry.

846
00:41:31,077 --> 00:41:31,997
Anything else?

847
00:41:31,997 --> 00:41:32,472
Okay.

848
00:41:32,472 --> 00:41:36,412
getting like staying involved in the sport
too, like going to the shows.

849
00:41:36,412 --> 00:41:38,905
Like I there's there's so many.

850
00:41:38,905 --> 00:41:42,445
a pass and go to Ohio and go to the Arnold
Expo.

851
00:41:42,445 --> 00:41:46,205
And, you know, if you live out, if you
live near things like go to shows, you

852
00:41:46,205 --> 00:41:49,385
know, it's, it's still like, you're still
a part of it, you know?

853
00:41:49,385 --> 00:41:53,185
So, okay, so next question.

854
00:41:53,185 --> 00:41:56,275
I'm new to competing, but I want to take
it as far as I can.

855
00:41:56,275 --> 00:41:59,325
What are the steps to earning your IFBB
Pro Card?

856
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,300
Yeah Jillian, what are the steps to
earning your IFBB from?

857
00:42:07,342 --> 00:42:13,882
Well, I wish I had a straightforward rapid
fire answer, but 19 years later.

858
00:42:14,842 --> 00:42:18,542
Okay, well, you know, we we do see two
show pros.

859
00:42:18,542 --> 00:42:22,022
Those lucky sons of bitches.

860
00:42:22,862 --> 00:42:25,982
They are very lucky, but that's rare.

861
00:42:25,982 --> 00:42:29,822
You know, generally, you know, you have to
you know, you do a regional show.

862
00:42:29,822 --> 00:42:34,802
If you win top two in your open class,
then you can go to nationals.

863
00:42:35,121 --> 00:42:39,140
depending on the show, if you know,
they're giving away one pro card per

864
00:42:39,140 --> 00:42:41,621
height class or there's two in the
overall.

865
00:42:41,621 --> 00:42:44,201
There's several national shows throughout
the year, kind of starting at the Arnold

866
00:42:44,201 --> 00:42:48,891
amateur going all the way through till
December with Masters USA.

867
00:42:48,891 --> 00:42:51,410
Well, Olympia is now September Olympia
amateur.

868
00:42:51,410 --> 00:42:52,381
Is it September?

869
00:42:52,381 --> 00:42:57,611
And then December is Masters USA and
Nationals Nationals is in Texas now.

870
00:42:57,611 --> 00:42:58,791
So it just depends.

871
00:42:58,791 --> 00:43:03,861
Like some of the bigger national shows
like USA's and Nationals at the end of the

872
00:43:03,861 --> 00:43:05,075
year are two pro cards.

873
00:43:05,075 --> 00:43:09,905
height class and I think North Americans
in the open and universe in the open.

874
00:43:09,905 --> 00:43:15,035
Yep and then if you're a masters
competitor to qualify you just have to

875
00:43:15,035 --> 00:43:21,515
have you compete like in that 365 days and
then you're qualified just by competing

876
00:43:21,515 --> 00:43:26,895
and then you go to nationals and then
there's depending I mean in 40s and 50s

877
00:43:26,895 --> 00:43:30,215
typically there's one pro card per height
class at nationals.

878
00:43:30,215 --> 00:43:35,375
I do think wellness and men's bodybuilding
over 50 I think

879
00:43:35,375 --> 00:43:40,855
like top two in the overall in those two
particular divisions at universe only

880
00:43:40,855 --> 00:43:44,188
because that's the one I'm doing and I
know that and then

881
00:43:44,188 --> 00:43:48,988
at Arnold's and all the like international
for like the Olympia, they have different

882
00:43:48,988 --> 00:43:49,848
rules.

883
00:43:49,848 --> 00:43:53,968
So if you're, whenever you're going to
register for a show, like strategically

884
00:43:53,968 --> 00:43:59,668
plan your registration because I know at
some of these shows, like not just like

885
00:43:59,668 --> 00:44:02,728
you said, like there's only one or two pro
cards, one pro card handed out in

886
00:44:02,728 --> 00:44:05,028
different high classes, two pro cards or
overall.

887
00:44:05,028 --> 00:44:08,888
But I know like with the Arnold and the
Olympia, they have different like rules as

888
00:44:08,888 --> 00:44:13,162
far as like entering to be able to get
like your pro card.

889
00:44:13,162 --> 00:44:15,122
only do it for like the overall.

890
00:44:15,602 --> 00:44:18,052
But then they like it all can change
yearly too.

891
00:44:18,052 --> 00:44:21,790
So every year you should like read on the
NPC news online.

892
00:44:21,790 --> 00:44:27,830
nationality, because back in like 2009,
I'm a Canadian citizen with a green card,

893
00:44:27,830 --> 00:44:30,510
so I could only do North Americans.

894
00:44:30,510 --> 00:44:31,850
I couldn't do masters nationals.

895
00:44:31,850 --> 00:44:36,570
I couldn't do like any of the other
national shows, because you had to be an

896
00:44:36,570 --> 00:44:38,890
American citizen, but they have since
changed that.

897
00:44:38,890 --> 00:44:43,770
And now green card holders can do, shows
like USA's and nationals and all of that.

898
00:44:43,770 --> 00:44:47,470
So that opened the playing field though,
because you know, there's

899
00:44:47,470 --> 00:44:52,050
you know, people from all over that are
living in America that, you know, bring

900
00:44:52,050 --> 00:44:55,670
their amazing Brazilian genetics to the
stage.

901
00:44:56,190 --> 00:45:00,690
so yeah, so just, you know, if, if that's
what you want to do, you know, I think

902
00:45:00,690 --> 00:45:06,730
it's important to, because it's so
expensive, like national shows cost so

903
00:45:06,730 --> 00:45:07,810
much money.

904
00:45:07,810 --> 00:45:10,130
Like one division is like $400.

905
00:45:10,130 --> 00:45:15,710
Whereas if you go to a regional show, you
can do four, four classes for $400 and

906
00:45:15,710 --> 00:45:17,380
stay at a hotel for $89.

907
00:45:17,380 --> 00:45:17,820
night.

908
00:45:17,820 --> 00:45:20,000
Like, you know, you don't usually have to
fly.

909
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:23,860
Like, you know, if when you're going to
go, like it'd be nice to say, I just want

910
00:45:23,860 --> 00:45:24,790
the experience.

911
00:45:24,790 --> 00:45:27,600
It's not a very expensive experience.

912
00:45:28,220 --> 00:45:29,136
Yeah.

913
00:45:29,136 --> 00:45:31,190
for a quarter of the cost.

914
00:45:31,190 --> 00:45:35,390
So, you know, I don't, and, and I think it
could be really defeating too, as if

915
00:45:35,390 --> 00:45:38,729
you're like, it's only your second show
and somebody told you go to nationals.

916
00:45:38,729 --> 00:45:42,290
Like if you, you know, if you won and you
did well in your competitive and you've

917
00:45:42,290 --> 00:45:46,829
got a great coach and who can guide you,
you know, then Hey, that's how these

918
00:45:46,829 --> 00:45:49,520
people get their pro card at their, at
their second show.

919
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:51,110
But that's so rare.

920
00:45:51,110 --> 00:45:55,690
And, you know, I think the smart way would
be just to, you know, get feedback and

921
00:45:55,690 --> 00:45:58,610
make sure that you're really ready when
you get there, because it's the best of

922
00:45:58,610 --> 00:45:59,470
the best.

923
00:45:59,470 --> 00:46:00,823
Like doesn't matter.

924
00:46:00,823 --> 00:46:05,223
you're like the fittest lady at your gym
like it's the you're competing at the

925
00:46:05,223 --> 00:46:09,104
fittest ladies at every gym in the country
you know so

926
00:46:09,104 --> 00:46:10,104
a good way to look at it.

927
00:46:10,104 --> 00:46:14,064
Always look at it like that, like just
because you're the fittest and the like

928
00:46:14,064 --> 00:46:17,453
best looking person, even it it is.

929
00:46:17,453 --> 00:46:21,573
But imagine you feel so good about
yourself.

930
00:46:21,573 --> 00:46:25,133
You're, you know, everyone's telling you,
you look so great, you're going to win.

931
00:46:25,133 --> 00:46:26,813
And you are the fittest person at the gym.

932
00:46:26,813 --> 00:46:31,505
You've never looked this way and you go to
a show and you get last.

933
00:46:31,505 --> 00:46:35,135
Like you, cause you went to national,
somebody was like, yeah, just do it.

934
00:46:35,135 --> 00:46:38,365
Like then it's like, it just really puts
pops of your bubble.

935
00:46:38,365 --> 00:46:39,005
Right?

936
00:46:39,005 --> 00:46:42,605
So make sure if you're going to go to
these big shows that you've got some

937
00:46:42,605 --> 00:46:46,705
guidance, like, and I think you should
have a posing coach because they're, they

938
00:46:46,705 --> 00:46:51,105
are like, they're moving you quick and you
know, it's the, it, there is one chance

939
00:46:51,105 --> 00:46:52,085
one shot to do it.

940
00:46:52,085 --> 00:46:52,465
Yeah.

941
00:46:52,465 --> 00:46:54,755
So, it takes a, it takes preparation.

942
00:46:54,755 --> 00:46:55,995
I don't say any of that to scare people.

943
00:46:55,995 --> 00:46:59,645
I just want people to have a good
experience and you know, it would, it

944
00:46:59,645 --> 00:47:01,672
would suck for somebody to like, be like,
well, I did that.

945
00:47:01,672 --> 00:47:04,932
got my ass into an envergapedia again,
right?

946
00:47:04,932 --> 00:47:08,196
Like, so, you know, I think that...

947
00:47:08,332 --> 00:47:09,772
also really

948
00:47:09,896 --> 00:47:14,816
Really really want listeners to understand
that you should really do your own

949
00:47:14,816 --> 00:47:19,096
research And I mean you have a put like
even if you have a posing coach you have

950
00:47:19,096 --> 00:47:24,556
you know your coach if you've gone to
Regular like regional shows you've done

951
00:47:24,556 --> 00:47:25,556
really well.

952
00:47:25,556 --> 00:47:27,126
You've won your class.

953
00:47:27,126 --> 00:47:33,256
You've won your open Let's say you even
run overall multiple times go to MPC news

954
00:47:33,256 --> 00:47:37,056
doc go and like See what's went.

955
00:47:37,056 --> 00:47:37,836
Mm -hmm.

956
00:47:37,836 --> 00:47:39,489
See what they're

957
00:47:39,489 --> 00:47:41,809
look at who's winning these national
shows.

958
00:47:41,809 --> 00:47:46,509
No, no, don't look at things that are
filtered and you know what not.

959
00:47:46,509 --> 00:47:51,452
You know what's a good resource though is
our guide Gilco.

960
00:47:51,452 --> 00:47:57,392
stop I have to I have to say something I
love do you pronounce resource

961
00:47:57,392 --> 00:47:58,532
differently?

962
00:47:58,772 --> 00:48:02,412
Cuz you're Canadian you say resource
resource.

963
00:48:02,412 --> 00:48:13,012
It's just the way you say it resources
Probably Okay, continue I just I like

964
00:48:13,012 --> 00:48:14,277
there was a pocket

965
00:48:14,277 --> 00:48:14,717
American?

966
00:48:14,717 --> 00:48:16,477
Do Americans say treadmill?

967
00:48:16,737 --> 00:48:18,577
Or is it just, I mean, it's Mandy.

968
00:48:19,457 --> 00:48:21,757
My daughter says it treadmill too.

969
00:48:21,757 --> 00:48:23,037
You in Brooklyn.

970
00:48:23,517 --> 00:48:24,208
Resources.

971
00:48:24,208 --> 00:48:27,968
but yeah, see you say, you say resources.

972
00:48:27,968 --> 00:48:31,108
It's the, it's the er that you're
pronouncing.

973
00:48:31,268 --> 00:48:35,098
Anyways, I noticed it when I was doing
like the studio work.

974
00:48:35,098 --> 00:48:37,714
Yeah, but anyways, it's cute.

975
00:48:37,729 --> 00:48:40,129
OK, I think we have time for one more
question.

976
00:48:40,129 --> 00:48:43,629
There's like 20 on this list, but I'm
going to just scoot down to the bottom

977
00:48:43,629 --> 00:48:46,579
because I think this is a juicy one, kind
of, kind of.

978
00:48:46,579 --> 00:48:47,909
I feel like it comes up a lot.

979
00:48:47,909 --> 00:48:50,809
And I think that I've scratched my head
before too.

980
00:48:50,809 --> 00:48:55,129
OK, so the question was, what do you do
with judge feedback?

981
00:48:55,129 --> 00:49:01,489
Particularly, what do the judges mean when
they say tighter, more density, fuller?

982
00:49:01,489 --> 00:49:04,149
softer or more balance?

983
00:49:04,749 --> 00:49:10,249
Because that is like you need a glossary
to be like what do you mean especially

984
00:49:10,249 --> 00:49:13,369
when they're like you could be a little
bit fuller and a little bit tighter but

985
00:49:13,369 --> 00:49:18,329
make sure you're not too hard be a little
bit soft and it's like excuse me like it

986
00:49:18,329 --> 00:49:25,816
sounds like like a laundry like I'm going
to the dry cleaner what that's a lot

987
00:49:25,816 --> 00:49:29,456
how it can be confusing but when you talk
like that I'm like yeah okay but like

988
00:49:29,456 --> 00:49:33,141
having to say okay so

989
00:49:33,141 --> 00:49:35,341
with tighter.

990
00:49:38,065 --> 00:49:39,545
Keeping it tight.

991
00:49:39,912 --> 00:49:40,952
being a tight.

992
00:49:41,752 --> 00:49:47,092
So I would say like, if a judge, I would
say mainly in your legs would be like the

993
00:49:47,092 --> 00:49:51,092
best way to start with that, especially
with bikini wellness competitors.

994
00:49:54,472 --> 00:49:57,252
So, and it can be, exactly.

995
00:49:57,252 --> 00:50:02,252
So this is where it gets all like, it gets
tricky because judges are just judging

996
00:50:02,252 --> 00:50:04,272
what is brought to the stage.

997
00:50:04,272 --> 00:50:05,912
Here's why judges feedback.

998
00:50:05,912 --> 00:50:06,504
Okay.

999
00:50:06,504 --> 00:50:09,537
I'm gonna probably go down a rabbit hole
just trying to explain it.

1000
00:50:09,537 --> 00:50:13,836
why I figured we'd start now so we don't
go over seven hours on this episode.

1001
00:50:13,836 --> 00:50:17,946
judges only see what you're bringing to
the stage.

1002
00:50:17,946 --> 00:50:22,516
You walk on stage, do your front back, and
then go to the diagonal.

1003
00:50:22,516 --> 00:50:29,376
So when judges see that, they could look
at you and say, she could be tighter.

1004
00:50:29,376 --> 00:50:30,296
Okay.

1005
00:50:30,296 --> 00:50:33,196
So you go to you, get your judge's
feedback saying you could be tighter in

1006
00:50:33,196 --> 00:50:34,676
your glutes.

1007
00:50:34,676 --> 00:50:39,736
So your coach will take that and when they
say tighter, they mean like you, you're

1008
00:50:39,736 --> 00:50:40,040
just.

1009
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,640
They can't see like your hamstrings
popping.

1010
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:44,119
They can't see your glute definition.

1011
00:50:44,119 --> 00:50:46,820
They can't see your roundness, your
fullness from the top to the bottom, the

1012
00:50:46,820 --> 00:50:47,240
sides.

1013
00:50:47,240 --> 00:50:51,680
And at a regional level, they don't have,
like you don't have to have tie -ins.

1014
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,840
So don't let that like stop you from
stepping on stage by any means if you're

1015
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:55,170
tie -ins.

1016
00:50:55,170 --> 00:50:58,800
And when we say tie -ins, we're talking
about your glute to hamstring insertion

1017
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,000
right there and be able to have that pop.

1018
00:51:01,240 --> 00:51:04,400
Yeah, I've just had people not know what a
tie -in is.

1019
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,986
So, but when they say that, like you could
be tighter.

1020
00:51:08,584 --> 00:51:12,184
you could be tighter or you just might
need to be more conditioned.

1021
00:51:12,184 --> 00:51:17,644
Therefore you may need to be leaner and if
you leaner and so if you were leaner in

1022
00:51:17,644 --> 00:51:21,844
your legs, so maybe more cardio, lesser
calories and let's say you kind of fine

1023
00:51:21,844 --> 00:51:26,544
tune this in a couple of weeks and step
back on stage, you could be perfect,

1024
00:51:26,544 --> 00:51:27,464
right?

1025
00:51:27,464 --> 00:51:28,065
So.

1026
00:51:28,065 --> 00:51:28,375
bit.

1027
00:51:28,375 --> 00:51:32,225
I mean, your conditioning was off
basically means that you're just, you

1028
00:51:32,225 --> 00:51:35,885
know, need to lose a little bit more body
fat or build a little bit more muscle

1029
00:51:35,885 --> 00:51:38,285
because sometimes you can lose body fat.

1030
00:51:38,285 --> 00:51:41,585
And then if you don't have the foundation
underneath, you're not going to be

1031
00:51:41,585 --> 00:51:42,445
tighter.

1032
00:51:42,485 --> 00:51:47,885
So, you know, I think generally they're
kind of talking about things jiggling or

1033
00:51:47,885 --> 00:51:55,015
not being tight, like, you know, high,
tight, round glutes and minimal, body fat.

1034
00:51:55,015 --> 00:51:57,259
I mean, some body fat is natural.

1035
00:51:57,259 --> 00:52:00,539
and and that's what makes the softer look.

1036
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:05,619
So it's a fine line and that's where it's
it would be so hard to coach yourself in

1037
00:52:05,619 --> 00:52:06,009
this sport.

1038
00:52:06,009 --> 00:52:09,759
I know people who do it but like it'd be
so hard because you could look at your

1039
00:52:09,759 --> 00:52:14,959
body and think you need to be you know
leaner and you know and you don't and you

1040
00:52:14,959 --> 00:52:17,344
overshoot and you're too lean you know.

1041
00:52:17,344 --> 00:52:21,014
I think the mixture between density and
fullness is tricky too.

1042
00:52:21,014 --> 00:52:25,864
Because again, a judge is gonna see you on
stage and be like, her shoulders could

1043
00:52:25,864 --> 00:52:27,444
need to be fuller.

1044
00:52:27,444 --> 00:52:28,324
Do they though?

1045
00:52:28,324 --> 00:52:30,814
Because like maybe you just did like a
massive carb load.

1046
00:52:30,814 --> 00:52:32,214
You did everything you possibly could.

1047
00:52:32,214 --> 00:52:37,144
You came as full as you could without
spilling over, which you can explain that.

1048
00:52:37,144 --> 00:52:39,813
But yeah, spilling over.

1049
00:52:39,813 --> 00:52:40,648
Yeah.

1050
00:52:40,648 --> 00:52:44,288
coach knows that, but the judge says you
need to come in fuller, but you can't come

1051
00:52:44,288 --> 00:52:45,108
in fuller.

1052
00:52:45,108 --> 00:52:48,488
So therefore you need more muscle.

1053
00:52:48,488 --> 00:52:53,788
You actually need to be like denser, but
the judge doesn't know that, but they're

1054
00:52:53,788 --> 00:52:55,118
gonna think fuller.

1055
00:52:55,118 --> 00:52:57,588
Whereas like you need to have more muscle.

1056
00:52:57,588 --> 00:53:01,148
But let's say you didn't carb load, you
might need to be fuller.

1057
00:53:01,148 --> 00:53:04,578
So you need to do a different peak week or
a peak protocol.

1058
00:53:04,583 --> 00:53:05,043
Yep.

1059
00:53:05,043 --> 00:53:05,463
Yeah.

1060
00:53:05,463 --> 00:53:12,923
I think these words are so, so, they're so
complicated, but you know, the density one

1061
00:53:12,923 --> 00:53:18,463
is one that I like to talk about because
sometimes people don't need to be bigger.

1062
00:53:18,463 --> 00:53:23,443
Like you don't need big, giant glutes and
big, giant shoulders.

1063
00:53:23,534 --> 00:53:27,294
But you might just need more density,
which means that there's more projection,

1064
00:53:27,294 --> 00:53:31,094
like in your glutes, when you're standing
in your back pose, that they are nice and

1065
00:53:31,094 --> 00:53:35,814
round and the skin is tight on the glutes
because they're nice and full because you

1066
00:53:35,814 --> 00:53:39,154
just built up that density, you know, and
some people just, you know, they're not

1067
00:53:39,154 --> 00:53:41,394
born with it or they just don't have the
muscle maturity.

1068
00:53:41,394 --> 00:53:44,154
So you don't need to go away and build a
giant, but you just need to take what

1069
00:53:44,154 --> 00:53:46,774
you've got and really build that density.

1070
00:53:46,774 --> 00:53:51,374
So, you know, like, and, and, and you can
come into a show, like you said, flat,

1071
00:53:51,374 --> 00:53:54,014
either you just, you didn't carve up
enough.

1072
00:53:54,128 --> 00:53:59,208
you're too depleted and then your your
muscles like a little balloon and you just

1073
00:53:59,208 --> 00:54:05,008
got to fill that balloon up but if you
push too hard or if you're trying to fill

1074
00:54:05,008 --> 00:54:08,408
up something that isn't there and you're
just pushing a bunch of carbs hoping that

1075
00:54:08,408 --> 00:54:13,148
you fill out and it's done filling it
spills into the space between the skin and

1076
00:54:13,148 --> 00:54:17,828
the muscle and then you look softer and
you'll look like you've got more body fat

1077
00:54:17,828 --> 00:54:21,408
but all that really happened is just that
you you just went too far with trying to

1078
00:54:21,408 --> 00:54:23,568
fill up and you filled yourself some

1079
00:54:23,568 --> 00:54:24,528
you could.

1080
00:54:24,908 --> 00:54:26,844
So that's a tough one.

1081
00:54:26,844 --> 00:54:28,384
is being flat.

1082
00:54:28,384 --> 00:54:33,744
And this is also why people after shows
will look super poppy.

1083
00:54:33,744 --> 00:54:37,504
Because like you just, you know, quick way
to explain what flat is, is easily off

1084
00:54:37,504 --> 00:54:38,244
what you just said.

1085
00:54:38,244 --> 00:54:41,744
You know, there are muscles, you know,
like our shoulders, they're just balloons

1086
00:54:41,744 --> 00:54:42,984
and they need to fill up.

1087
00:54:42,984 --> 00:54:46,445
You didn't fill them up and therefore you
look flat.

1088
00:54:46,445 --> 00:54:49,755
maybe you pulled water too hard, which you
shouldn't do.

1089
00:54:49,775 --> 00:54:53,995
some people still like old school coaches,
like still will cut water from girls.

1090
00:54:53,995 --> 00:54:58,025
And it's just like, okay, well, something
has to shuttle the carbohydrates around.

1091
00:54:58,025 --> 00:55:02,955
And then, you know, if there's not enough
water, then the muscle is not going to,

1092
00:55:02,955 --> 00:55:04,815
you know, fill out the way that it should.

1093
00:55:04,815 --> 00:55:07,035
And I think everybody just thinks it makes
your waist big.

1094
00:55:07,035 --> 00:55:08,135
I'm like, it's water.

1095
00:55:08,135 --> 00:55:08,840
I don't know.

1096
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:09,900
Mm -hmm.

1097
00:55:10,178 --> 00:55:14,118
but that's, again, that's we've learned so
much over the years and I've, I've done

1098
00:55:14,118 --> 00:55:17,558
that old way of doing it where you tried
to get rid of as much water as possible

1099
00:55:17,558 --> 00:55:18,778
and you'd be on stage.

1100
00:55:18,778 --> 00:55:21,398
I like so thirsty.

1101
00:55:22,278 --> 00:55:25,578
but yeah, it wasn't a good look, not like
it is now it's much healthier.

1102
00:55:26,778 --> 00:55:27,598
balance.

1103
00:55:27,598 --> 00:55:32,198
If somebody is gets the feedback that they
need to balance their top and bottom has,

1104
00:55:32,198 --> 00:55:34,568
this is me 2018 balance.

1105
00:55:34,568 --> 00:55:37,918
Get my grow into my boobs was my feedback.

1106
00:55:38,510 --> 00:55:44,170
So what does that piece of area of
improvement mean?

1107
00:55:46,312 --> 00:55:47,812
It means you're off balance.

1108
00:55:48,992 --> 00:55:54,951
No, so the criteria for, again, bikini is
what we're talking about.

1109
00:55:55,792 --> 00:55:58,052
You need to have that hourglass shape.

1110
00:55:58,052 --> 00:56:01,962
Your delts and your clavicle need to have
a good round shape to them.

1111
00:56:01,962 --> 00:56:07,112
You need to have a tapered waist, not a
harsh V, tapered waist with a round glutes

1112
00:56:07,112 --> 00:56:10,212
and a slight separation of your quads to
your hamstrings.

1113
00:56:10,212 --> 00:56:12,808
Slight, like very slight, no.

1114
00:56:12,808 --> 00:56:15,508
no striations, which means you can see the
muscle fibers in them.

1115
00:56:15,508 --> 00:56:16,688
But anyways.

1116
00:56:18,472 --> 00:56:21,192
I literally just had a brain fart.

1117
00:56:21,752 --> 00:56:22,870
my gosh!

1118
00:56:22,870 --> 00:56:23,790
smell it and see it.

1119
00:56:23,790 --> 00:56:26,090
I'm looking at your face and like, here it
comes.

1120
00:56:26,390 --> 00:56:28,590
I know you too well.

1121
00:56:29,650 --> 00:56:30,710
Balance.

1122
00:56:31,670 --> 00:56:33,850
I should have like cue cards.

1123
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:35,860
my goodness, stop it.

1124
00:56:35,860 --> 00:56:37,660
I don't need that.

1125
00:56:38,420 --> 00:56:39,640
No.

1126
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:41,570
poor girl.

1127
00:56:41,570 --> 00:56:42,480
No, I did not.

1128
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:44,960
But okay, so balance.

1129
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:49,390
So let's just say you love lifting upper
body more than lower body.

1130
00:56:49,390 --> 00:56:50,720
Let's just say you're that person.

1131
00:56:50,720 --> 00:56:55,480
Let's say your shoulders come in,
beautiful, nice, full, bubbly, perfect

1132
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:56,496
little.

1133
00:56:57,035 --> 00:56:58,456
delts, right?

1134
00:56:58,456 --> 00:57:00,346
Well, your glutes didn't.

1135
00:57:00,346 --> 00:57:02,936
So your top is way bigger than your
bottom.

1136
00:57:02,936 --> 00:57:04,126
You're not balanced.

1137
00:57:04,126 --> 00:57:06,016
Your hourglass shape isn't balanced.

1138
00:57:06,016 --> 00:57:09,596
So when you get this feedback, you need to
figure out what is off balance and you

1139
00:57:09,596 --> 00:57:11,936
need to be able to work on in those like
areas.

1140
00:57:11,936 --> 00:57:12,878
So that's what it means.

1141
00:57:12,878 --> 00:57:16,488
I think that's very common for new
athletes to like have imbalances.

1142
00:57:16,488 --> 00:57:19,398
It's really hard to build a balance
because he could take time.

1143
00:57:19,398 --> 00:57:22,918
So, you know, and it's top to bottom,
front to back.

1144
00:57:22,918 --> 00:57:26,218
So you don't win shows with one body part.

1145
00:57:26,468 --> 00:57:31,638
you win them with overall conditioning and
overall development and like that, you

1146
00:57:31,638 --> 00:57:35,818
know, upper body matches the lower body
glutes, match the quads, match the

1147
00:57:35,818 --> 00:57:36,478
hamstrings.

1148
00:57:36,478 --> 00:57:39,918
You know, it sounds like a tall order, but
you know, if you just design your program

1149
00:57:39,918 --> 00:57:43,212
or somebody who coaches you designed your
program appropriately.

1150
00:57:43,212 --> 00:57:47,012
So that you can, you know, stay balanced
and fit the criteria.

1151
00:57:47,012 --> 00:57:50,992
So, you know, sometimes girls come in and
maybe they have a very developed upper

1152
00:57:50,992 --> 00:57:55,012
body from, you know, playing softball or
whatever it might be, or they've got, you

1153
00:57:55,012 --> 00:57:58,792
know, really powerful legs, not quite big
enough for wellness, but maybe a little

1154
00:57:58,792 --> 00:58:03,092
bit too big for bikini or, you know,
overpowering quads and their glutes are

1155
00:58:03,092 --> 00:58:03,612
not developed.

1156
00:58:03,612 --> 00:58:07,292
So, you know, that's what building balance
means is not training for what you like,

1157
00:58:07,292 --> 00:58:08,732
but training for the division.

1158
00:58:08,732 --> 00:58:10,572
You know, people ask me all the time,
like, do you train chest?

1159
00:58:10,572 --> 00:58:12,082
And I'm like, what for?

1160
00:58:12,082 --> 00:58:13,312
Like it's literally.

1161
00:58:13,532 --> 00:58:18,132
judged and so I don't waste my time on it
and it doesn't bother me but something

1162
00:58:18,132 --> 00:58:21,292
like I like to bench I'm like okay well
bodybuilding isn't like about what you

1163
00:58:21,292 --> 00:58:26,572
like it's about what what builds your body
for yeah like I didn't train quads for

1164
00:58:26,572 --> 00:58:31,992
years years I always thought my quads were
too big well then my butt grew and now I'm

1165
00:58:31,992 --> 00:58:36,652
training quads again so you just have to
do whatever you need to do for your body

1166
00:58:36,652 --> 00:58:42,499
for that you know improvement that you're
trying to make so so yeah

1167
00:58:42,798 --> 00:58:47,218
I think that about, well softer is the
other thing, which I think honestly, I

1168
00:58:47,218 --> 00:58:51,658
think a lot of girls, well, I think one
thing that is important to mention is like

1169
00:58:51,658 --> 00:58:55,628
girls my age, like we have like really
thin skin, we don't have really thin skin.

1170
00:58:55,628 --> 00:58:57,958
We start to get thinner skin as we get
older.

1171
00:58:57,958 --> 00:58:59,598
It's just like part of it.

1172
00:58:59,598 --> 00:59:02,138
Like younger girls have thicker skin.

1173
00:59:02,138 --> 00:59:06,158
And so, you know, they might be really,
really lean, but they're not going to

1174
00:59:06,158 --> 00:59:10,358
always look as shredded as like somebody
who's older because their skin is just

1175
00:59:10,358 --> 00:59:10,578
thicker.

1176
00:59:10,578 --> 00:59:11,848
It doesn't mean they have more body fat.

1177
00:59:11,848 --> 00:59:13,032
The body fat could literally

1178
00:59:13,032 --> 00:59:14,192
the same.

1179
00:59:14,192 --> 00:59:19,532
I mean, I have like literally paper thin
skin almost everywhere on my body.

1180
00:59:19,572 --> 00:59:22,472
Like I have veins on veins on veins on
veins.

1181
00:59:22,472 --> 00:59:24,272
I did not look this way 10 years ago.

1182
00:59:24,272 --> 00:59:26,992
Like it's just as I've gotten older, it's
just part of it.

1183
00:59:26,992 --> 00:59:31,932
So you have to be careful when you get up
on stage that you don't look emaciated

1184
00:59:31,932 --> 00:59:34,116
because I've seen

1185
00:59:34,116 --> 00:59:35,716
say that.

1186
00:59:35,716 --> 00:59:37,490
No, yeah.

1187
00:59:37,574 --> 00:59:40,934
that they're turning in their back pose
and you can see striations on their glutes

1188
00:59:40,934 --> 00:59:46,794
because you know, they are too hard and
they aren't, you know, their skin is so

1189
00:59:46,794 --> 00:59:48,774
thin and they're very lean and
conditioned.

1190
00:59:48,774 --> 00:59:52,234
But it's that fine line of like, do you
gain body fat and lose a bit of the

1191
00:59:52,234 --> 00:59:56,174
conditioning so that you look softer, but
you just can't have that like paper thin

1192
00:59:56,174 --> 01:00:00,894
skin where they can see literally your,
the sinew of your hamstrings on the back

1193
01:00:00,894 --> 01:00:03,054
of your legs because they don't want that
for bikini.

1194
01:00:03,054 --> 01:00:04,848
So, but I do think it gets harder.

1195
01:00:04,848 --> 01:00:10,188
in the like, you know, 40s and 50s and
60s, you know, just cause that's our,

1196
01:00:10,188 --> 01:00:11,608
that's just how it is.

1197
01:00:11,608 --> 01:00:13,398
And men too, right?

1198
01:00:13,398 --> 01:00:18,268
So, and I think that's the reason why,
yeah.

1199
01:00:19,012 --> 01:00:20,632
ever been this veiny.

1200
01:00:20,632 --> 01:00:23,612
And I've gotten that a lot, especially
like, cause I've been lifting for, you

1201
01:00:23,612 --> 01:00:24,782
know, 10 years or something.

1202
01:00:24,782 --> 01:00:29,512
And I've done multiple shows and I've
just, I've never had poppy veins per se,

1203
01:00:29,512 --> 01:00:32,732
but I even have veins that are in my like
shins now.

1204
01:00:32,732 --> 01:00:36,852
And I have veins in my forearms and it's
like, well, I built up a lot of muscle and

1205
01:00:36,852 --> 01:00:37,952
I'm older.

1206
01:00:38,232 --> 01:00:38,862
I don't know.

1207
01:00:38,862 --> 01:00:43,302
at like guys at my gym that are in their
sixties and they have literally just like

1208
01:00:43,302 --> 01:00:47,602
veins everywhere, like just all over their
body, you know, just because they're so

1209
01:00:47,602 --> 01:00:51,602
muscular, they're lean and then their skin
is thin just from being older.

1210
01:00:51,722 --> 01:00:54,212
So, you know, that's just how it is.

1211
01:00:54,212 --> 01:00:56,482
And that's why I'm grateful for the
master's divisions.

1212
01:00:56,482 --> 01:00:59,662
James was asking me if I was competing in
open at universe.

1213
01:00:59,662 --> 01:01:02,162
I'm like, you are hilarious.

1214
01:01:02,162 --> 01:01:04,342
No, I do not.

1215
01:01:04,342 --> 01:01:06,662
Hey, it's like nine hours later.

1216
01:01:06,662 --> 01:01:07,696
It's such a big show.

1217
01:01:07,696 --> 01:01:14,436
And like they start with like wellness
starts at nine and then they go 60s 50s

1218
01:01:14,436 --> 01:01:17,616
40s 35 then open starts.

1219
01:01:17,616 --> 01:01:23,935
So I'm like, no, I am no, that's no, I'm
going back to my room and I'll see you at

1220
01:01:23,935 --> 01:01:24,856
finals.

1221
01:01:25,096 --> 01:01:28,196
So anyways, all right.

1222
01:01:28,196 --> 01:01:29,976
Q &A!

1223
01:01:30,516 --> 01:01:32,156
These are always fun.

1224
01:01:32,156 --> 01:01:33,098
But -

1225
01:01:33,098 --> 01:01:35,398
when we have a guest I'm like, what if my
Wi -Fi goes out?

1226
01:01:35,398 --> 01:01:37,198
What if I mispronounce their name?

1227
01:01:37,198 --> 01:01:39,098
What if I burp?

1228
01:01:42,438 --> 01:01:45,468
Yeah, I just don't want to screw it up.

1229
01:01:45,468 --> 01:01:48,318
Yeah, I know and everyone's been so nice.

1230
01:01:48,318 --> 01:01:51,468
I know I know so well

1231
01:01:51,468 --> 01:01:54,968
it is, I always hear like, you know, at
the gym, it's like you have girly talk at

1232
01:01:54,968 --> 01:01:55,238
the gym.

1233
01:01:55,238 --> 01:01:56,847
Like this is kind of what girly talk is.

1234
01:01:56,847 --> 01:01:59,908
You know, you just BS about like really
common things and we all talk about it.

1235
01:01:59,908 --> 01:02:05,868
So, but yeah, but also listeners, we will
not be having an episode next week because

1236
01:02:05,868 --> 01:02:07,752
somebody will be competing.

1237
01:02:07,752 --> 01:02:09,692
on Friday next week.

1238
01:02:09,692 --> 01:02:16,452
So we will have an episode the following
week recapping Jillian's amazing universe.

1239
01:02:17,832 --> 01:02:18,758
Yes.

1240
01:02:18,758 --> 01:02:19,858
Conley.

1241
01:02:19,858 --> 01:02:20,728
She is amazing.

1242
01:02:20,728 --> 01:02:22,128
I'm really excited to talk to her.

1243
01:02:22,128 --> 01:02:24,398
So she will be coming up this month as
well.

1244
01:02:24,398 --> 01:02:25,618
Well, July.

1245
01:02:25,638 --> 01:02:28,758
So yeah, as well as some other amazing
guests.

1246
01:02:28,758 --> 01:02:32,978
So if there's somebody that you would like
to see us interview, granted they have to

1247
01:02:32,978 --> 01:02:33,858
be a mama.

1248
01:02:33,858 --> 01:02:36,418
We don't interview dudes on this show.

1249
01:02:36,758 --> 01:02:39,678
Then let us know and we can reach out to
them and see if they will come on and

1250
01:02:39,678 --> 01:02:41,478
share their story with us.

1251
01:02:42,198 --> 01:02:43,138
Yeah.

1252
01:02:43,718 --> 01:02:44,504
Yes.

1253
01:02:44,504 --> 01:02:45,424
weeks.

1254
01:02:46,244 --> 01:02:47,384
Bye!