Risk and Reels: A Cybersecurity Podcast

Jeffrey Wheatman sits down with Cary Johnson, founder of Phishbusters Audit and Consulting, to expose the failures of traditional phishing simulations. They discuss why standard metrics fall short, how self-assessment distorts results, and what it really takes to track — and influence — behavioral change in security awareness programs.

Creators and Guests

Host
Jeffrey Wheatman
Cyber Risk Expert, Evangelist, Thought Leader, Storyteller, Executive Advisor, and former Gartner Analyst

What is Risk and Reels: A Cybersecurity Podcast?

A podcast for movies. A podcast for cyber talk. A podcast for smart people to say smart things to smart listeners. Hosted by Jeffrey Wheatman, former Gartner Analyst.