{"version": "1.0.0","segments": [{"body": "On episode two of Convergence, Brendan and I talk about whether and how it's possible to get what you want out of life with way less effort.", "endTime": 9.7, "speaker": "", "startTime": 0.0},{"body": "\ud83c\udfb5", "endTime": 17.14, "speaker": "", "startTime": 9.7},{"body": "So, uh, you've got follow-up from when last we spoke.", "endTime": 21.14, "speaker": "", "startTime": 17.14},{"body": "I do. A couple things that we talked about.", "endTime": 23.38, "speaker": "", "startTime": 21.14},{"body": "We had mentioned the term right action, and I was stumbling over my memory", "endTime": 28.74, "speaker": "", "startTime": 23.38},{"body": "trying to remember where I knew that from, and you had mentioned Buddhism, I think.", "endTime": 34.42, "speaker": "", "startTime": 28.74},{"body": "I had mentioned to be magnetic, and I think neither of those are...", "endTime": 37.78, "speaker": "", "startTime": 34.42},{"body": "Well, neither of those are where I know the term right action from.", "endTime": 41.14, "speaker": "", "startTime": 37.78},{"body": "I know it from Enneagram work, and actually from being a Nine.", "endTime": 47.54, "speaker": "", "startTime": 41.14},{"body": "A Nine is typically averse to causing any disruption in other people's lives.", "endTime": 54.98, "speaker": "", "startTime": 47.54},{"body": "They want to keep the peace, both internally and externally.", "endTime": 58.82, "speaker": "", "startTime": 55.62},{"body": "And so they often don't do things.", "endTime": 61.38, "speaker": "", "startTime": 58.82},{"body": "They will think things, but not put that action out into the world.", "endTime": 65.7, "speaker": "", "startTime": 61.38},{"body": "Until there is some sort of justice issue or conviction or state...", "endTime": 77.14, "speaker": "", "startTime": 66.58},{"body": "Something that goes beyond, like, okay, I don't care whose feathers I ruffle.", "endTime": 83.7, "speaker": "", "startTime": 79.14},{"body": "Uh, this is right action for me.", "endTime": 86.66, "speaker": "", "startTime": 84.26},{"body": "This is something I have to do.", "endTime": 88.18, "speaker": "", "startTime": 86.66},{"body": "A transgression has been... has occurred.", "endTime": 90.98, "speaker": "", "startTime": 88.18},{"body": "Yeah.", "endTime": 91.3, "speaker": "", "startTime": 90.98},{"body": "And therefore, a right must be wronged.", "endTime": 92.98, "speaker": "", "startTime": 91.3},{"body": "A wrong must be righted. 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Exactly.", "endTime": 95.94, "speaker": "", "startTime": 94.58},{"body": "And I was confusing that in... with two-magnetic, they have aligned action.", "endTime": 100.18, "speaker": "", "startTime": 95.94},{"body": "Aligned action for that is something that aligns with your authentic code.", "endTime": 106.66, "speaker": "", "startTime": 100.18},{"body": "In this manifestation world, you create four words.", "endTime": 111.22, "speaker": "", "startTime": 107.7},{"body": "That's your authentic code.", "endTime": 112.34, "speaker": "", "startTime": 111.22},{"body": "And you run everything that you do by those four words", "endTime": 115.78, "speaker": "", "startTime": 112.34},{"body": "to make sure that it aligns with you in some way.", "endTime": 119.14, "speaker": "", "startTime": 115.78},{"body": "And aligns with what... where you are and where you want to be.", "endTime": 122.58, "speaker": "", "startTime": 119.14},{"body": "And I think the combination of those two, aligned right 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it's really great.", "endTime": 495.7, "speaker": "", "startTime": 492.26},{"body": "It, um, the, the, the, the meditations, they're called DIs for deep imaginings, uh, are so", "endTime": 505.46, "speaker": "", "startTime": 495.7},{"body": "interesting.", "endTime": 508.1, "speaker": "", "startTime": 506.9},{"body": "There's quite a big variety of them, but they're all kind of the same.", "endTime": 511.94, "speaker": "", "startTime": 508.1},{"body": "Uh, they got the binaural beats going on and it's Lacey Phillips or sometimes a couple", "endTime": 518.26, "speaker": "", "startTime": 511.94},{"body": "other people just, you know, giving you a few things to kind of keep you down into a", "endTime": 524.5, "speaker": "", "startTime": 519.22},{"body": "theta state and then, um, giving you these prompts that like, I can't even, I can't even", "endTime": 532.82, "speaker": "", "startTime": 524.5},{"body": "recall them.", "endTime": 533.46, "speaker": "", "startTime": 532.82},{"body": 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I think I'm still trying to find, I think I thought I was on it, and I'm not there", "endTime": 1542.58, "speaker": "", "startTime": 1535.54},{"body": "yet. I, you know, as I, as I'm discovering, and, you know, to your point about effort, like, I'm,", "endTime": 1548.1, "speaker": "", "startTime": 1542.66},{"body": "I'm on this, this journey, or this little quest to try and not necessarily do less, but", "endTime": 1559.22, "speaker": "", "startTime": 1548.1},{"body": "be more effortless. Yes. And again, you know, there's, there's people in my sphere who are like,", "endTime": 1567.38, "speaker": "", "startTime": 1560.82},{"body": "finally, Mark, we've been saying this for ages, or whatever, because I've, you know,", "endTime": 1572.5, "speaker": "", "startTime": 1567.38},{"body": "so quick possible tangent, because we may talk about this later, but I've just,", "endTime": 1579.94, "speaker": "", "startTime": 1573.38},{"body": "what's really interesting, so I, I'm consolidating all of my, you know, my different identities,", "endTime": 1585.7, "speaker": "", "startTime": 1580.9},{"body": "and they're all going into one place, and so everything now is on one website,", "endTime": 1589.38, "speaker": "", "startTime": 1585.7},{"body": "the, the hallmark of everything, and it go, there's stuff there that goes back to 2008.", "endTime": 1598.34, "speaker": "", "startTime": 1590.26},{"body": "If I wanted to, there's stuff that could go back further, but some of my writing,", "endTime": 1601.7, "speaker": "", "startTime": 1598.34},{"body": "as I discovered yesterday, is absolutely intolerable. 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And it was, it was just really interesting to look at that and go, yeah, like,", "endTime": 1669.78, "speaker": "", "startTime": 1663.14},{"body": "I'm still in the same patterns. And, okay, it gets me this, like, ridiculous archive of stuff", "endTime": 1677.14, "speaker": "", "startTime": 1669.78},{"body": "that I can go back to, memories I can live, or relive, but ultimately, I'm no, you know, I'm", "endTime": 1684.82, "speaker": "", "startTime": 1677.14},{"body": "worse off than I was when I had a job. I'm, I'm happier. Yeah, definitely happier, definitely", "endTime": 1691.94, "speaker": "", "startTime": 1684.82},{"body": "more content, I have way more autonomy. But I still haven't found my thing. And that's because", "endTime": 1698.9, "speaker": "", "startTime": 1691.94},{"body": "I, you know, part of the problem is I keep looking for my thing instead of actually just...", "endTime": 1702.34, "speaker": "", "startTime": 1698.9},{"body": "That, that perfectly segues into my second piece of follow-up. We're still in follow-up.", "endTime": 1708.18, "speaker": "", "startTime": 1703.14},{"body": "But before that, you mentioned The Second Mountain. And that reminds me of a book I'm", "endTime": 1714.18, "speaker": "", "startTime": 1710.58},{"body": "actually listening to right now, for the second time, which is called Falling Upward by Richard", "endTime": 1719.06, "speaker": "", "startTime": 1714.18},{"body": "Rohr. And he is a, he's an expert in Enneagram work. And that's how I found out about him. 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But the Enneagram, the nine, so the quickly about the Enneagram, there's nine", "endTime": 1793.86, "speaker": "", "startTime": 1785.22},{"body": "numbers, each of them, there's, there's two separate triads of, of thinking, feeling and", "endTime": 1803.3, "speaker": "", "startTime": 1793.86},{"body": "doing, you're either dominant or repressed in one of those two things. And so Enneagram nines,", "endTime": 1810.26, "speaker": "", "startTime": 1803.3},{"body": "the three, six and nine are in this middle triangle that have the same repression as they do", "endTime": 1818.18, "speaker": "", "startTime": 1811.22},{"body": "their dominant center. And we, as nines, are both doing repressed and doing dominant. So", "endTime": 1826.66, "speaker": "", "startTime": 1819.38},{"body": "everything, you know, everybody does things. And so if you're doing repressed, that doesn't mean", "endTime": 1832.02, "speaker": "", "startTime": 1828.26},{"body": "you don't do anything. What it means is that you don't do the thing that you really need to be", "endTime": 1837.14, "speaker": "", "startTime": 1832.02},{"body": "doing. And what you're doing doesn't bring in... Oh, I feel seen. Yeah. Oh, man. If you want to", "endTime": 1848.58, "speaker": "", "startTime": 1837.14},{"body": "feel seen in like, kind of the worst, but best way, deep dive into Enneagram, because it's like,", "endTime": 1854.5, "speaker": "", "startTime": 1848.58},{"body": "whoa. Oh, I mean, I've Yeah, I've got a big expensive report that I that my friend", "endTime": 1858.66, "speaker": "", "startTime": 1854.5},{"body": "enabled me to do a couple of years ago. And I've got to, I've got to find out where it is and dive", "endTime": 1865.46, "speaker": "", "startTime": 1859.78},{"body": "back into it. Because yeah, yeah. So yeah, so a nine is doing dominant, which means we,", "endTime": 1872.5, "speaker": "", "startTime": 1865.46},{"body": "we bring in information by doing. 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So I want to dive into that doing that is not necessarily productive.", "endTime": 1972.5, "speaker": "", "startTime": 1963.7},{"body": "So because that, that again, makes me go a little bit cold. What do you mean by cold?", "endTime": 1977.46, "speaker": "", "startTime": 1972.5},{"body": "Again, it feels, I think, I'm in, I'm in, I'm in a point where I've done so much doing", "endTime": 1986.58, "speaker": "", "startTime": 1979.06},{"body": "over the last few years. Because it's felt like control, it's felt like,", "endTime": 1992.18, "speaker": "", "startTime": 1986.58},{"body": "well, you know, in order for me to achieve, you know, whatever, whatever it is,", "endTime": 1997.94, "speaker": "", "startTime": 1992.74},{"body": "um, get it, getting more business in, maybe making myself a bit more financially secure", "endTime": 2003.46, "speaker": "", "startTime": 1998.18},{"body": "that has to involve a lot of doing. And so my doing is coming up with ideas. 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You know, one of my biggest opportunities that I, um,", "endTime": 2073.38, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2068.5},{"body": "I have at the moment that, you know, that I'm continuing to, to, to work with is it came from", "endTime": 2080.26, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2074.18},{"body": "a talk I gave, which I was asked to do, not because any of my doing, but because of, you know,", "endTime": 2086.26, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2080.26},{"body": "they didn't want to know about the things that, you know, the doing, um, they wanted to know about", "endTime": 2090.66, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2086.26},{"body": "me and my story. Um, and that's what the talk was. And it just so happens that I had, thank you. It", "endTime": 2096.66, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2090.66},{"body": "just so happened that I had, you know, services there that one or two people thought might be", "endTime": 2101.38, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2096.66},{"body": "useful. And so again, like all of this doing all of this creation, all of this writing,", "endTime": 2106.58, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2101.38},{"body": "podcasting, recording, planning, thinking, worrying, obsessing, um, all of this debt,", "endTime": 2115.38, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2106.58},{"body": "all of this, all of that really has, has, has been because I find it so difficult to believe", "endTime": 2126.34, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2115.38},{"body": "that things can happen without the doing. Yes. That, that is such a nine thing to say.", "endTime": 2132.82, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2126.34},{"body": "Such a Samantha. So you end up with this. Yeah. With this unproductive doing. Yeah,", "endTime": 2141.7, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2135.14},{"body": "absolutely. 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And I think at some point I got a little", "endTime": 2588.18, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2580.98},{"body": "bit, I think maybe lost in the implementation from his perspective, because what a lot of", "endTime": 2594.98, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2588.18},{"body": "these books don't really go into is the assumption that they make about the life that you lead.", "endTime": 2603.14, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2594.98},{"body": "A lot of these are written by and for people who have virtual assistants, um, or they're men who", "endTime": 2612.5, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2603.14},{"body": "can go and do the men things while the women do the women things. 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Thank you.", "endTime": 2681.14, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2670.9},{"body": "Yeah. That's the point that connects us back to the wider, uh, to the wider goal. Yes. Um,", "endTime": 2687.14, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2681.14},{"body": "but yeah, I think, I think where I got a little jaded and where I think I need to pull back", "endTime": 2692.02, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2687.86},{"body": "is not so much worrying about how these people implement their, their idea,", "endTime": 2699.3, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2692.02},{"body": "because atomic habits is a great idea. I should worry less about how he implements it with his", "endTime": 2704.42, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2699.3},{"body": "team around him and think about, okay, how can I make it work for myself as someone who is a single", "endTime": 2712.34, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2704.42},{"body": "person who doesn't have a VA, um, who's got to fit life around, you know, around these things,", "endTime": 2718.1, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2712.34},{"body": "how can I make that work? And I think, again, it's back to that thing I said earlier on about", "endTime": 2723.46, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2718.1},{"body": "like this, whether it's an AI or whatever that helps us take all of these different concepts,", "endTime": 2728.34, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2723.46},{"body": "these, these things, and just, yeah, helps us tweak them so that we can build our own", "endTime": 2732.5, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2728.66},{"body": "little bento box of, of the stuff that works for us in our lives.", "endTime": 2735.54, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2732.5},{"body": "I'm so excited to see what you do with, uh, with AI and how, because you've been,", "endTime": 2743.94, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2736.42},{"body": "you've been using it in some really interesting ways. And I'm excited to explore further in this", "endTime": 2749.46, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2743.94},{"body": "podcast about what, what, and how you're making that happen. Cause you, you showed me, you know,", "endTime": 2755.14, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2749.46},{"body": "the, the photo of, or the, um, the, the cover art for this podcast. And I had one tiny little tweak", "endTime": 2762.98, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2755.14},{"body": "and you sent it through some AI thing and did it. And you know, like it was just, it was,", "endTime": 2769.46, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2762.98},{"body": "it was fantastic. And I was like, Whoa, how, how, what, like, did you type in remove signposts", "endTime": 2776.98, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2769.46},{"body": "behind letter? Oh, like what happened? What did you do? How did that happen? And so like, uh,", "endTime": 2781.86, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2776.98},{"body": "I'm really excited to get further into that. Yeah, absolutely. Um, we, we should definitely", "endTime": 2786.5, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2781.86},{"body": "sit and have a, have an hour long conversation about AI. Cause I think, I think we could,", "endTime": 2790.82, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2786.5},{"body": "cause we haven't got through like any of that stuff that we're going to talk about this week.", "endTime": 2794.26, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2790.82},{"body": "Which is, which is absolutely fine that they will move on to next week. Uh, or they won't,", "endTime": 2801.14, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2796.26},{"body": "I hope they do cause those look interesting. Yeah. Yeah. There's, there is some stuff there.", "endTime": 2806.34, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2801.14},{"body": "Um, yeah, I, I, I feel like the not doing is going to be more and more of a, of a staple,", "endTime": 2814.26, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2806.34},{"body": "I think for me. And it's coming with some guilt, like, and, and I, uh, you know, I have to be okay", "endTime": 2819.7, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2814.26},{"body": "with, with that. You know, there's this podcast idea that I put a fair amount of work into, um,", "endTime": 2827.38, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2819.7},{"body": "and recorded, you know, four episodes of, and I've now got to figure out what I tell those people.", "endTime": 2834.82, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2828.58},{"body": "Um, and there's a part of me that wants to still put them out somewhere", "endTime": 2841.06, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2835.78},{"body": "because you could always have a limited series. Yeah, absolutely. Um, but you know,", "endTime": 2846.74, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2841.06},{"body": "there's stuff I recorded in January for beware of the leopard with, um, two internet people", "endTime": 2852.98, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2846.74},{"body": "that I think you will know, uh, that I haven't done anything with and they would have forgotten", "endTime": 2857.22, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2852.98},{"body": "about it by now, but maybe not. And also that's not the point. It was, you know, there were,", "endTime": 2863.86, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2857.22},{"body": "there were really lovely conversations and we just haven't been able to find the time,", "endTime": 2869.06, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2863.86},{"body": "not this one actually just isn't just on me, um, to, to find the time to do them.", "endTime": 2873.86, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2869.06},{"body": "But I think I've done so much doing with, with bramble over the last few months with getting", "endTime": 2879.46, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2873.86},{"body": "that on its feet and there's still lots and lots and lots and lots to do. Um, but I think getting", "endTime": 2886.66, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2879.46},{"body": "to, yeah, this point in my, my, uh, my evolution where I'm focusing on doing less, but also having", "endTime": 2896.26, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2886.74},{"body": "to, yeah, deal with the guilt, a little bit of the guilt of what that means. Um, yeah, it's a,", "endTime": 2904.74, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2896.26},{"body": "it's a, it's a weird time. If I may be, if I may be so bold and, and, you know, not my place and", "endTime": 2915.94, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2905.46},{"body": "not even my ability, but I would so love to absolve you of all of that guilt. Like that", "endTime": 2921.46, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2915.94},{"body": "you have nothing at all to feel guilty for. You're doing the best you can. You're doing", "endTime": 2929.06, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2921.46},{"body": "so much and, and it's all really great. And you don't owe anybody anything at all.", "endTime": 2937.86, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2930.18},{"body": "Like, and I'm saying that as a question, but it's not, uh, it like, uh,", "endTime": 2943.78, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2938.42},{"body": "the, the, our, our burden as creatives, as, as people with ideas, uh, especially", "endTime": 2952.98, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2945.62},{"body": "people who have ideas that can also do something and that can make those ideas happen.", "endTime": 2958.1, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2953.62},{"body": "That's a struggle, man, because we, we come up with so many cool things to do.", "endTime": 2964.66, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2959.54},{"body": "Like, I still want to make a new wedding video for my wedding a year and a half ago.", "endTime": 2969.54, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2965.22},{"body": "Like, and it, you know, it's on my list. It's good. I want to make a, I want to make an over,", "endTime": 2976.82, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2969.54},{"body": "uh, a vacation video from that massive trip I took. And, and I made a bunch of small ones", "endTime": 2982.9, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2976.82},{"body": "because it was easy to do and just like on a train ride. But then now I'm back home and I", "endTime": 2987.46, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2982.9},{"body": "want to look at all of the clips and make a big, uh, you know, video of the whole thing. And that's,", "endTime": 2992.26, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2987.46},{"body": "it's just, I want to put time into, I want it to be good. So I want to put time into it. And", "endTime": 2996.82, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2992.26},{"body": "there's only so much time and you have to, you have to forgive yourself that there's only so", "endTime": 3002.18, "speaker": "", "startTime": 2996.82},{"body": "much time and you can't do it all. And you're going to have great ideas that you can't do.", "endTime": 3006.18, "speaker": "", "startTime": 3002.18},{"body": "And you're going to have great ideas that you're going to start and can't finish.", "endTime": 3009.22, "speaker": "", "startTime": 3006.18},{"body": "And that's just fine. One of the things that I'm aware of as time goes on is how much time I did", "endTime": 3018.1, "speaker": "", "startTime": 3009.22},{"body": "have that I don't really, you know, because I, I've, I've sort of, you know, I'd spent time", "endTime": 3024.1, "speaker": "", "startTime": 3018.1},{"body": "admonishing myself for not doing certain things or not doing enough or whatever, ironically enough.", "endTime": 3029.94, "speaker": "", "startTime": 3024.1},{"body": "Um, but when I look back on some of these projects and some of the things that I did,", "endTime": 3034.74, "speaker": "", "startTime": 3029.94},{"body": "I had way, way more free time than I do now. And some of that is cause I, I,", "endTime": 3046.66, "speaker": "", "startTime": 3036.02},{"body": "as I say that I sort of half reject it because there is no such thing as not enough time.", "endTime": 3053.22, "speaker": "", "startTime": 3047.62},{"body": "It's all about priorities. It's all, you know, there, there is time, there is time enough to", "endTime": 3057.14, "speaker": "", "startTime": 3053.22},{"body": "exercise. There is time enough to, to plan, um, to, you know, to, to make sure that the good,", "endTime": 3062.98, "speaker": "", "startTime": 3057.14},{"body": "the right stuff is in the fridge. There is time, you know, it's, it's all about the,", "endTime": 3068.9, "speaker": "", "startTime": 3062.98},{"body": "again, going back to those priorities. And I think, yeah, there, there is some, some work", "endTime": 3074.74, "speaker": "", "startTime": 3070.5},{"body": "to be done for me, you know, um, of, of, and I tried to do this earlier in the year of going", "endTime": 3082.02, "speaker": "", "startTime": 3074.74},{"body": "back to those core things of what do I want out of life? And then, but I think what I've got to", "endTime": 3088.1, "speaker": "", "startTime": 3082.02},{"body": "do is actually think about it less in terms of doing and more in terms of, I don't know", "endTime": 3094.98, "speaker": "", "startTime": 3088.1},{"body": "what the alternative is feeling, um, and thinking and thinking. Yeah. Well, that will be, that will", "endTime": 3103.46, "speaker": "", "startTime": 3095.7},{"body": "be something to explore next week, I guess. Yeah. Uh, one, one quick thing that, that made me think", "endTime": 3109.7, "speaker": "", "startTime": 3103.46},{"body": "of, hopefully this doesn't make us go on for another hour, but, uh, I did a, I did a TBM DI,", "endTime": 3115.62, "speaker": "", "startTime": 3109.7},{"body": "it was called feature self. And it has you think about yourself in one year, in 10 years and at the", "endTime": 3122.82, "speaker": "", "startTime": 3115.62},{"body": "end of your life. And it asks you at the end of your life's spot, how old are you? And I did this", "endTime": 3130.74, "speaker": "", "startTime": 3122.82},{"body": "a year ago, I was 37 and immediately it just felt right. I thought of myself as 87. I'm like,", "endTime": 3139.62, "speaker": "", "startTime": 3130.74},{"body": "I'm on my deathbed. I'm just peacefully kind of fading away. I'm 87 years old. And I'm like,", "endTime": 3145.62, "speaker": "", "startTime": 3139.62},{"body": "when I came out of it and I was like, kind of processing later, I was like,", "endTime": 3149.22, "speaker": "", "startTime": 3146.26},{"body": "that means I got 50 years left. I'm not even halfway through. And like, you know, the first,", "endTime": 3155.06, "speaker": "", "startTime": 3150.02},{"body": "the first chunk of my life, I was a baby. The second chunk of my life, my twenties and, and,", "endTime": 3161.7, "speaker": "", "startTime": 3156.02},{"body": "and a little bit past that I was trapped in an abusive marriage and, and stuck. And like,", "endTime": 3168.34, "speaker": "", "startTime": 3161.7},{"body": "I feel like I've only been myself for a few years and I've got 50 more years. I'm like, so excited.", "endTime": 3175.62, "speaker": "", "startTime": 3168.34},{"body": "I got all this potential to do. And, um, I, I, I see that for you too. Like you had to go through", "endTime": 3183.78, "speaker": "", "startTime": 3175.62},{"body": "all of those things. You had to, uh, quote unquote, waste that time in order to get here where you are,", "endTime": 3191.06, "speaker": "", "startTime": 3183.86},{"body": "or else you wouldn't be you. You wouldn't have done that otherwise. So, um, you got, you got", "endTime": 3198.26, "speaker": "", "startTime": 3191.06},{"body": "all the time in the world, man. Oh, well, um, if you'd like to, uh, you dear listener would like to", "endTime": 3205.54, "speaker": "", "startTime": 3198.26},{"body": "continue to, to stroll with us along this little journey as we figure out what we're going to do", "endTime": 3209.22, "speaker": "", "startTime": 3205.54},{"body": "with our lives, uh, with, with our remaining, uh, 50% of our lives, um, then you can find us", "endTime": 3215.3, "speaker": "", "startTime": 3209.22},{"body": "at convergencepod.com, um, and, uh, find ways to get in touch with us. And, um, as we, as we move", "endTime": 3221.86, "speaker": "", "startTime": 3215.3},{"body": "on, I'm sure we'll find ways to, for you to, to actually say hello. Um, but, um, wow, what,", "endTime": 3227.94, "speaker": "", "startTime": 3221.86},{"body": "what a pleasure and who knows where we'll be and what we'll talk about next week.", "endTime": 3231.22, "speaker": "", "startTime": 3227.94},{"body": "Yeah, hopefully something on the list.", "endTime": 3241.22, "speaker": "", "startTime": 3231.22},{"body": "Uh, this is thing, uh, actually Enneagram related about people who are doing requests and", "endTime": 3259.62, "speaker": "", "startTime": 3253.54},{"body": "counting down. Uh, but usually it's just a three, two, one go. And, uh, it's just a way to kind of", "endTime": 3266.26, "speaker": "", "startTime": 3260.34},{"body": "get you out of your, out of your stuckness and be like, okay, I've been sitting here on the couch,", "endTime": 3271.54, "speaker": "", "startTime": 3266.26},{"body": "man. I really don't want to get up, but I got to go do the dishes and get ready for bed.", "endTime": 3276.66, "speaker": "", "startTime": 3272.58},{"body": "Three, two, one go. And then just, yeah. Yeah. It's a, it's a good, it's a good tactic.", "endTime": 3283.94, "speaker": "", "startTime": 3277.86}]}