The Big Brain Podcast

In this episode of the Big Brain Podcast, Larry and Namik are joined by Wintermute Founder and CEO Evgeny Gaevoy to discuss the recent historic crypto crash, explaining how extreme leverage, exchange failures, and forced ADL liquidations led to market chaos and liquidity breakdowns across the ecosystem.

OUTLINE
00:00 Introduction

00:45 What Happened?

04:46 Understanding ADL

12:25 Transparency and Privacy on Hyperliquid 

16:35 Circuit Breakers

19:16 Occam’s Razor

21:25 Assessing the Damage

25:24 Lessons learned

28:39 Looking Ahead

30:21 A Maturing Market

32:13 Dealing with Extreme Volatility 

35:19 Impact on DeFi

37:28 Wintermute as the Crypto Villain

41:47 What else does Wintermute do?

44:11 Conclusion

GUEST LINKS

https://x.com/evgenygaevoy

https://x.com/wintermute_t

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Show Notes

In this episode of the Big Brain Podcast, Larry and Namik are joined by Wintermute Founder and CEO Evgeny Gaevoy to discuss the recent historic crypto crash, explaining how extreme leverage, exchange failures, and forced ADL liquidations led to market chaos and liquidity breakdowns across the ecosystem.


OUTLINE 00:00 Introduction

00:45 What Happened?

04:46 Understanding ADL

12:25 Transparency and Privacy on Hyperliquid 

16:35 Circuit Breakers

19:16 Occam’s Razor

21:25 Assessing the Damage

25:24 Lessons learned

28:39 Looking Ahead

30:21 A Maturing Market

32:13 Dealing with Extreme Volatility 

35:19 Impact on DeFi

37:28 Wintermute as the Crypto Villain

41:47 What else does Wintermute do?

44:11 Conclusion


GUEST LINKS

https://x.com/evgenygaevoy

https://x.com/wintermute_t


This episode of the Big Brain Podcast is brought to you by our sponsor, Canton Network.


Are you hiring in crypto?

Use Campus to quickly find your best candidates with our challenging Crypto Assessment Test.Faster hiring, stronger teams.

Sign up for a trial today: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠theblock.co/campus⁠

What is The Big Brain Podcast?

The Big Brain Podcast features conversations with crypto's most influential thinkers, builders, and traders.
Co-hosted by The Block CEO Larry Cermak and MegaETH CSO Namik Muduroglu, these interviews challenge ideas, dig into mental models, and push guests beyond the headlines.
This show isn't about predicting the future of crypto—it’s about spotlighting the big brains shaping it.