WEBVTT NOTE This file was generated by Descript 00:00:00.789 --> 00:00:06.320 Welcome to the Soul Touched by Dogs Podcast, the show for dog lovers who 00:00:06.340 --> 00:00:12.000 see dogs not as toys or tools, but wise souls worth our respect and care. 00:00:12.580 --> 00:00:14.559 I'm an Herrmann, and I'm your host. 00:00:15.320 --> 00:00:20.560 I talk to poor some humans, people who do great work for dogs and their people. 00:00:21.099 --> 00:00:23.360 So come and join us for today's conversation. 00:00:25.080 --> 00:00:26.620 Anke: Hello and welcome, Catherine. 00:00:26.670 --> 00:00:27.650 I'm very excited to have 00:00:27.650 --> 00:00:28.050 Catherine: you here. 00:00:28.780 --> 00:00:30.580 I'm excited to be here, thank you. 00:00:31.410 --> 00:00:36.360 Anke: Well, let people know where in this wonderful world you are, and as 00:00:36.360 --> 00:00:38.590 always, what's your business with dogs? 00:00:39.015 --> 00:00:42.775 Catherine: Okay, so I'm actually based in Nottingham in the UK, so 00:00:42.775 --> 00:00:44.265 right in the heart of the country. 00:00:44.295 --> 00:00:50.525 And so I am a dog walker, but as well as dog walking, I also teach 00:00:51.965 --> 00:00:53.845 canine first aid classes as well. 00:00:55.565 --> 00:00:59.465 And I kind of got into that because my own dog, I always had an interest 00:00:59.485 --> 00:01:02.475 in canine health and nutrition, but my own dog got quite poorly. 00:01:02.795 --> 00:01:04.295 Um, and I learned a lot. 00:01:04.295 --> 00:01:08.640 Um, It was COVID as well, so it was difficult, you know, 00:01:08.810 --> 00:01:09.700 taking to the vets and stuff. 00:01:09.700 --> 00:01:11.890 So I learned a lot through her really. 00:01:12.260 --> 00:01:14.220 Um, so yes. 00:01:14.560 --> 00:01:17.480 Anke: Oh, so well, like there's lots of questions I have. 00:01:17.960 --> 00:01:22.160 So now the first thing is like the, the first aid, you know, 00:01:22.160 --> 00:01:25.330 like my mind's always going like, okay, so who's helping who here? 00:01:25.500 --> 00:01:25.800 Right. 00:01:25.980 --> 00:01:29.490 So we're not talking, cause I had like, maybe I'm a little influenced 00:01:29.490 --> 00:01:34.500 by a conversation I recently had where somebody would go with their dog. 00:01:34.945 --> 00:01:40.095 to places of emergency and there'd be like first like not first aid but like 00:01:40.095 --> 00:01:44.985 first responding but you're talking about actually helping your dog in 00:01:45.115 --> 00:01:48.745 Catherine: yeah so it's definitely not there to uh replace veterinary care 00:01:48.755 --> 00:01:53.705 absolutely not but it's more um so minor things that you can deal with yourself 00:01:54.005 --> 00:01:57.435 like a quick nail or something like that or removing a tick that kind of thing 00:01:57.735 --> 00:02:04.715 um but also Um, stuff you can do to help your dog prior, you know, on the way 00:02:04.745 --> 00:02:08.245 to the vets prior to getting veterinary care that can really alter the situation. 00:02:09.165 --> 00:02:12.865 Anke: But we're always talking about helping your dog, not like going with 00:02:12.865 --> 00:02:14.815 your dog to help other people, right? 00:02:14.815 --> 00:02:16.635 So it's always about helping your own dog. 00:02:16.645 --> 00:02:17.125 Oh yeah, 00:02:17.125 --> 00:02:17.625 Catherine: about your dog. 00:02:17.645 --> 00:02:23.875 I mean, as a, here, most people, as they should be really, that work with dogs, 00:02:24.445 --> 00:02:26.865 have got a canine first aid qualification. 00:02:28.210 --> 00:02:29.760 because that's really important. 00:02:29.770 --> 00:02:33.960 So, so people who care for other people's dogs, like dog walkers, dog boarders, 00:02:34.260 --> 00:02:37.500 uh, that, you know, that they would be helping other people's dogs as well. 00:02:37.750 --> 00:02:42.490 Um, but yeah, it's mainly to help dog, your dogs and dogs in your care. 00:02:43.235 --> 00:02:43.615 Anke: Yeah. 00:02:43.705 --> 00:02:44.115 Okay. 00:02:44.325 --> 00:02:49.945 So, so what's like, is there something that you wish people just knew where 00:02:49.945 --> 00:02:52.975 you find like, Oh, this is what people get wrong all the time or 00:02:52.975 --> 00:02:54.805 what I have to explain over and over? 00:02:55.115 --> 00:02:56.115 What do you wish people knew? 00:02:56.995 --> 00:02:59.095 Catherine: Not particularly something that people get wrong, but I wish that 00:02:59.095 --> 00:03:04.165 people knew how important is to know what your pet's vital statistics are. 00:03:04.165 --> 00:03:11.175 So, um, with my own previous dog, Josie, um, One of the reasons I'm so passionate 00:03:11.295 --> 00:03:14.805 about, uh, canine first aid is because I had a canine first aid certificate. 00:03:15.065 --> 00:03:17.565 And there was one day where she was just off her food. 00:03:17.735 --> 00:03:19.835 It seemed serious, but she was just off her food. 00:03:19.835 --> 00:03:21.235 She just wasn't quite herself. 00:03:21.525 --> 00:03:25.185 So, I checked her gums, which is what we're taught to do in first aid. 00:03:25.455 --> 00:03:26.705 And they were really pale. 00:03:26.885 --> 00:03:31.365 And that's when I knew that actually it was more serious than I thought it was. 00:03:31.375 --> 00:03:32.655 So we got her straight to the vets. 00:03:32.895 --> 00:03:37.005 Um, and really that, that helped save her life because she really was in trouble. 00:03:37.245 --> 00:03:38.835 It was quite a serious illness. 00:03:39.925 --> 00:03:44.795 Anke: So that means you're saying like you want to really know what your dog 00:03:44.825 --> 00:03:46.965 looks like, you know, when they're wet. 00:03:46.975 --> 00:03:49.165 So it's really a benchmark kind of thing. 00:03:49.565 --> 00:03:50.185 Catherine: Exactly. 00:03:50.195 --> 00:03:53.295 So it's really useful to know what is normal for your dogs because 00:03:53.295 --> 00:03:54.225 they're all quite different. 00:03:54.495 --> 00:03:59.175 Um, so with gums, they should be pink, uh, salmon, like a salmon pink color. 00:03:59.415 --> 00:04:04.265 They should be, um, You know, glossy and wet to touch. 00:04:04.485 --> 00:04:10.495 Um, so if, it's a really good idea to take a picture of your dog's gums as well. 00:04:10.525 --> 00:04:14.135 So you've got something that you can say, Okay, that looks a bit 00:04:14.135 --> 00:04:15.555 pale, but I'm just going to check. 00:04:15.615 --> 00:04:17.335 Because sometimes we can imagine things. 00:04:17.805 --> 00:04:20.125 So it's good to have a photo so you can look at it and say, Okay, there's 00:04:20.125 --> 00:04:22.655 definitely a difference in colour there. 00:04:23.375 --> 00:04:26.015 So, and the same with the pulse rate, it's really good to know your dog's 00:04:26.275 --> 00:04:32.005 resting pulse rate and also their breathing rate, because dogs are really, 00:04:32.005 --> 00:04:33.865 really good at hiding pain, as we know. 00:04:34.145 --> 00:04:37.785 Um, but if they are in pain, those will all go up. 00:04:38.235 --> 00:04:41.085 Um, so it's a really good idea to know what they are. 00:04:41.875 --> 00:04:43.845 Anke: So how, what's the best way to measure that? 00:04:44.995 --> 00:04:47.735 Catherine: Um, so with your dog's breathing rate, literally just wait 00:04:47.735 --> 00:04:50.875 until they're, um, at rest, so not when they've been running around in the 00:04:50.875 --> 00:04:52.245 garden, because that'd be a bit crazy. 00:04:52.415 --> 00:04:55.375 Literally just, you can either sit and watch them breathe, or 00:04:55.375 --> 00:04:58.455 just put your hand on their chest so you can feel it rise and fall. 00:04:58.745 --> 00:05:03.075 So, average dog, their breathing weight will be between 10 and 30. 00:05:03.855 --> 00:05:08.195 Um, Josie's actually, our previous dog's was 32, and that was just normal for her. 00:05:09.430 --> 00:05:14.880 So generally, the bigger the dog, the slower the pulse rate and the slower 00:05:14.900 --> 00:05:16.470 the heart rate, the breathing rate. 00:05:17.690 --> 00:05:20.270 Anke: And so the pulses as well, like you just put your 00:05:20.280 --> 00:05:21.295 hands on it and then you count. 00:05:21.295 --> 00:05:22.000 Oh yeah, sorry, 00:05:22.000 --> 00:05:22.260 Catherine: yeah. 00:05:22.320 --> 00:05:28.200 So the pulse, um, the best way to take your dog's pulse is, Um, on the inner, 00:05:28.970 --> 00:05:33.230 so basically if you place your fingers, in fact let me, let me show you, bear 00:05:33.230 --> 00:05:35.990 with me a sec, I'll show you on this guy. 00:05:36.670 --> 00:05:40.300 So this is um, Boris, he's in a bit of a mess as you can see, but the best 00:05:40.300 --> 00:05:44.810 way to take, yeah I know, the best way to take your dog's pulse rate is 00:05:44.810 --> 00:05:46.870 to place your fingers face upwards. 00:05:47.010 --> 00:05:49.940 Just where they're in the groin area where it meets the, um, 00:05:49.970 --> 00:05:51.250 you put this up a little bit? 00:05:51.300 --> 00:05:52.830 Anke: Can, ah, there you Yeah, yeah. 00:05:52.830 --> 00:05:53.850 Yeah, so just up 00:05:53.850 --> 00:05:54.230 Catherine: here. 00:05:54.300 --> 00:05:55.270 Oh, yeah. 00:05:55.870 --> 00:05:59.300 So, but you do have to be careful not to put, on a smaller dog or cat, 00:05:59.300 --> 00:06:01.660 say, if you put your thumb down you can end up taking your own pulse 00:06:01.660 --> 00:06:03.650 rate, so you just have to be careful. 00:06:03.650 --> 00:06:03.940 Yeah. 00:06:04.100 --> 00:06:07.440 So, it's really good to practice, you know, to find that on your dog, 00:06:07.660 --> 00:06:11.820 um, so that you know where it is and then just write it down so you've 00:06:11.820 --> 00:06:13.360 got something to refer to, yeah. 00:06:13.580 --> 00:06:16.350 Anke: So would you kind of say, well, it's a good idea though, once a month 00:06:16.420 --> 00:06:19.500 to take some measurements and actually write it down because otherwise Why 00:06:19.730 --> 00:06:19.920 Catherine: not? 00:06:19.940 --> 00:06:20.310 Yeah. 00:06:20.360 --> 00:06:20.800 Yeah. 00:06:20.940 --> 00:06:21.820 Um, absolutely. 00:06:22.140 --> 00:06:25.600 I always check my dog scums once a month anyway, as a matter of course, I'm a 00:06:25.600 --> 00:06:30.190 bit obsessed as to what happened with Josie, but, uh, yeah, anything like 00:06:30.220 --> 00:06:33.100 that, anything for feeling under the weather, it's always worth just checking. 00:06:34.490 --> 00:06:35.770 Anke: That makes it that makes sense. 00:06:36.070 --> 00:06:41.380 So I'm also curious, like, how, how did you get into dog walking? 00:06:41.380 --> 00:06:44.330 Like, was it like, did you have your own dog and somebody else? 00:06:44.330 --> 00:06:45.340 Or can you take mine? 00:06:45.340 --> 00:06:46.820 Or like, was that the first step? 00:06:46.820 --> 00:06:49.940 Or like, what made what made you start this at all? 00:06:51.015 --> 00:06:52.615 to walk other people's dogs. 00:06:52.635 --> 00:06:57.285 And then, you know, like how, how, how did you decide to actually turn 00:06:57.285 --> 00:06:58.915 that into, into kind of a business? 00:06:59.475 --> 00:06:59.725 Catherine: Okay. 00:06:59.725 --> 00:07:01.925 So originally I actually started out as a dog groomer. 00:07:02.425 --> 00:07:06.345 Oh, um, which personally for me, I found it quite stressful. 00:07:06.985 --> 00:07:11.715 Um, uh, and also I've developed a really bad problem with my eyes. 00:07:11.715 --> 00:07:17.800 So, um, I managed because There's a thing called groomers, so the hairs, 00:07:17.800 --> 00:07:21.130 you can swallow them, you can get hair splinters, and I actually got them in 00:07:21.130 --> 00:07:23.510 my eyes and it was scratched on my eyes. 00:07:24.120 --> 00:07:27.680 So yeah, so hence I wear glasses most of the time now. 00:07:27.690 --> 00:07:28.890 I can't get my contact lenses in. 00:07:29.230 --> 00:07:34.540 Um, so that was a reason really, but while I was building up the grooming business, 00:07:34.570 --> 00:07:36.130 I was actually walking some dogs. 00:07:36.140 --> 00:07:38.320 People said, oh, will you walk my dog for me? 00:07:39.695 --> 00:07:43.795 Um, I actually found I loved being outdoors and being with dogs in that kind 00:07:43.795 --> 00:07:46.185 of situation rather than clipping them. 00:07:46.535 --> 00:07:50.515 Um, so that's how I got into it really, so I couldn't do dog grooming anymore, and 00:07:50.515 --> 00:07:52.265 so I just developed the dog walking side. 00:07:52.435 --> 00:07:55.935 But dog walking, I'm not sure, um, because I know you're in Spain, 00:07:55.945 --> 00:07:57.025 it might be different out there. 00:07:57.155 --> 00:08:01.125 It's actually quite, um, big here in the UK, yeah. 00:08:01.185 --> 00:08:05.565 I think in, where I live, in Nottingham, there's at least 00:08:05.565 --> 00:08:07.445 300 dog walkers that I know of, 00:08:07.885 --> 00:08:08.235 Anke: yeah. 00:08:09.250 --> 00:08:09.670 Catherine: So, yeah. 00:08:10.530 --> 00:08:13.570 Anke: I mean, I mean, it kind of, look, it makes sense because I'm all, 00:08:13.570 --> 00:08:17.700 I always said like I got my first dog when I moved to Spain and had my own 00:08:17.700 --> 00:08:19.300 business and could work from home. 00:08:19.600 --> 00:08:24.000 And the only reason I didn't have a dog earlier was that I was always, 00:08:24.370 --> 00:08:26.590 um, working in an office, right. 00:08:26.620 --> 00:08:30.320 And I was always thinking like, well, I don't want my dog to 00:08:30.320 --> 00:08:31.690 sit at home alone all day. 00:08:32.270 --> 00:08:32.480 Right. 00:08:32.810 --> 00:08:36.930 So if this concept of dog walkers had existed then, well, hell 00:08:36.930 --> 00:08:38.290 yes, I would have had a dog. 00:08:38.290 --> 00:08:43.190 So would you find that most of your clients are basically, they hire you so 00:08:43.190 --> 00:08:46.670 because they're out working all day or is that, is that not a common scenario? 00:08:46.960 --> 00:08:48.190 Catherine: It's a mixture really. 00:08:48.190 --> 00:08:51.390 So some of them are out at work, um, but some of them 00:08:51.410 --> 00:08:53.230 actually work from home as well. 00:08:53.490 --> 00:08:58.560 Um, So during COVID, obviously everyone started working from home 00:08:58.560 --> 00:08:59.850 and a lot of people haven't gone back. 00:09:00.440 --> 00:09:02.650 They still, obviously they still need to be working. 00:09:02.890 --> 00:09:05.470 And because I've been walking their dogs for so long, they've 00:09:05.470 --> 00:09:09.040 just kind of carried it on really, um, to keep them in that routine. 00:09:09.040 --> 00:09:10.040 Anke: So 00:09:10.220 --> 00:09:11.510 Catherine: yeah, it's a bit of a mixture really. 00:09:11.510 --> 00:09:13.780 Or sometimes, um, occasionally. 00:09:14.295 --> 00:09:18.165 Get a dog where the owner is a bit elderly or a bit poorly and so they 00:09:18.165 --> 00:09:20.195 need some support with walking the dog. 00:09:21.125 --> 00:09:26.025 Anke: So would you, do you have like a few sort of like permanent like regular 00:09:26.025 --> 00:09:28.775 customers or is it like how many times? 00:09:28.775 --> 00:09:31.185 I mean I was always like, I don't think. 00:09:31.810 --> 00:09:36.010 I think I've seen it here, you know, like where I live, you know, where sometimes 00:09:36.340 --> 00:09:40.390 there'd be people who kind of have a bunch of dogs, but it always thinks it 00:09:40.510 --> 00:09:42.420 kind of like a rescue baby or something. 00:09:42.690 --> 00:09:48.290 So, you know, how many dogs do you take out or do you go, could I kind of hire 00:09:48.290 --> 00:09:52.400 you and say, but I want you to only take out mine, or is that just a fee thing? 00:09:52.400 --> 00:09:53.430 Or would you do that? 00:09:53.450 --> 00:09:55.280 Not do like, how does that even work? 00:09:56.015 --> 00:09:56.785 Catherine: No, absolutely. 00:09:56.785 --> 00:10:01.605 So, a lot of dog walkers, uh, here in the UK will walk up to six dogs. 00:10:01.895 --> 00:10:05.115 Um, and I haven't got a problem with that, but I, that's not for me. 00:10:05.845 --> 00:10:08.785 I prefer a smaller pack, so the most I really walk is three. 00:10:09.065 --> 00:10:12.775 Um, and yeah, absolutely, I'll do solo walks. 00:10:13.175 --> 00:10:17.715 In fact, quite a few of the dogs I walk are solo walks, because they, 00:10:17.715 --> 00:10:21.025 well, um, they don't always get on with other dogs, or they're a little 00:10:21.025 --> 00:10:22.535 bit nervous, or that kind of thing. 00:10:22.925 --> 00:10:25.705 Um, so yeah, I personally do do solo walks, and there are 00:10:25.705 --> 00:10:26.875 dogs out there that will do. 00:10:27.780 --> 00:10:29.780 Dog walkers out there that will do as well. 00:10:29.830 --> 00:10:30.100 Yeah. 00:10:30.130 --> 00:10:32.230 Anke: So you, you were very fit then, right? 00:10:33.030 --> 00:10:33.360 Yes. 00:10:34.440 --> 00:10:37.230 I actually had the first three of mine. 00:10:37.530 --> 00:10:39.080 They was like where I was living. 00:10:39.080 --> 00:10:41.710 It was just like so narrow and whatever. 00:10:41.710 --> 00:10:44.470 And one had gotten bitten and he wasn't very happy. 00:10:44.470 --> 00:10:46.890 And I'm like, no, no, I'm with three dogs here. 00:10:47.120 --> 00:10:50.160 So I know like, yeah, they all get a little walk and I 00:10:50.160 --> 00:10:51.830 am like exhausted at the end. 00:10:51.830 --> 00:10:52.100 Yes. 00:10:53.790 --> 00:10:54.350 Catherine: So it is. 00:10:54.350 --> 00:10:54.677 So it 00:10:54.677 --> 00:10:54.840 Anke: is. 00:10:55.820 --> 00:10:58.180 Catherine: It is, but actually I do walk them. 00:10:58.270 --> 00:11:01.220 I mean, I probably walk about seven, eight miles a day. 00:11:01.615 --> 00:11:05.495 I only really walk on the flat, because where we are, it's very flat, 00:11:05.505 --> 00:11:08.735 so if you put me walking up a hill, you wouldn't think I was fit at all, 00:11:08.925 --> 00:11:10.405 because I'm just not used to it. 00:11:10.465 --> 00:11:11.825 Yeah, I'll be huffing and puffing. 00:11:13.195 --> 00:11:16.635 Anke: So what's common, like, would you, are there, your, your regular 00:11:16.635 --> 00:11:20.955 dogs, like, do you walk them every day, or do people say, hey, come in twice 00:11:20.955 --> 00:11:25.515 a week, or, or like three times a day, or like, what's, what's typical there? 00:11:26.245 --> 00:11:26.685 Catherine: It depends. 00:11:26.685 --> 00:11:29.355 I have some that I walk every single day, except for the weekend. 00:11:29.355 --> 00:11:30.985 So Monday to Friday I walk them every day. 00:11:30.985 --> 00:11:35.425 I have some that walk twice a week, or sometimes I have some that let 00:11:35.425 --> 00:11:38.155 me know on the Sunday, these are the days I need you this week. 00:11:38.365 --> 00:11:40.405 So I'm quite flexible in that respect. 00:11:40.505 --> 00:11:43.255 Um, so, so yeah, it depends. 00:11:43.365 --> 00:11:44.165 It's a mixture. 00:11:44.925 --> 00:11:51.040 Yeah, I have some that I only walk, say, Um, three or four times a year, 00:11:51.720 --> 00:11:53.070 just when they're only needs me. 00:11:53.130 --> 00:11:53.470 Yeah. 00:11:53.500 --> 00:11:53.800 Yeah. 00:11:53.800 --> 00:11:54.620 So 00:11:55.500 --> 00:11:59.840 Anke: Nestea, like what, are you then expected like to take them to the vet 00:11:59.840 --> 00:12:04.340 or something like that if they're, or is it like strictly we go in the park, 00:12:04.340 --> 00:12:09.600 we go for walks or, or can they go like, Oh, actually, well, you remind me 00:12:09.600 --> 00:12:12.950 of what I did, like when I learned how to drive, the driving instructor would 00:12:12.950 --> 00:12:15.620 go, Oh, go here, turn left, go here. 00:12:15.620 --> 00:12:21.200 And next thing I know, like, Park here, and then he used my driving 00:12:21.200 --> 00:12:22.530 lessons to get his shopping bags. 00:12:23.220 --> 00:12:24.180 Wow, okay. 00:12:24.810 --> 00:12:28.630 So, you know, so he would let me park in front of the supermarket. 00:12:28.630 --> 00:12:34.760 So, so like, would somebody come and say, hey, can you pick up some, well, whatever? 00:12:35.130 --> 00:12:36.755 Or is that not something that happens? 00:12:37.115 --> 00:12:40.715 Catherine: Normally I just take them in the car to the woods or wherever. 00:12:40.775 --> 00:12:43.345 Obviously if I needed to get them to the vets I would do. 00:12:43.635 --> 00:12:46.895 Um, here there's, there's certain rules about insurance. 00:12:46.895 --> 00:12:50.675 So if an owner wanted somebody to take the dog to the vets but they wanted 00:12:50.695 --> 00:12:54.385 to be there, they would need someone with that specific kind of insurance. 00:12:54.935 --> 00:12:58.495 Um, so I'm not insured for that but I would be insured. 00:12:59.350 --> 00:13:04.210 To take a dog, uh, on its own without the owner, to the vets, if that makes sense. 00:13:04.250 --> 00:13:04.600 Yeah. 00:13:05.870 --> 00:13:10.070 Sometimes, uh, I have done it where, um, they've asked me to drop the 00:13:10.070 --> 00:13:13.470 dog at the groomers on the way, on the way home, which is fine. 00:13:13.640 --> 00:13:16.750 Sometimes I have people saying, oh my gosh, I forgot to take 00:13:16.750 --> 00:13:17.950 the sausages out of the freezer. 00:13:17.950 --> 00:13:19.290 Do you mind taking them out? 00:13:19.510 --> 00:13:21.460 I don't mind doing anything like that, it's fine. 00:13:22.470 --> 00:13:24.630 Anke: So what's your, what's your favourite, favourite 00:13:24.630 --> 00:13:25.970 part of, of this work? 00:13:25.970 --> 00:13:26.920 Um 00:13:28.815 --> 00:13:31.755 Catherine: I think it's, one of my favourite parts is because I've, um, 00:13:31.955 --> 00:13:35.595 because I do do solo walks, is sometimes you get very nervous dogs, and just 00:13:35.595 --> 00:13:38.535 seeing them, building that relationship with them and seeing them come out of 00:13:38.535 --> 00:13:40.095 the shed, it's just really rewarding. 00:13:40.265 --> 00:13:41.735 I think that's my favourite part really. 00:13:41.735 --> 00:13:44.945 And some of these dogs have been walking for nearly eight years, 00:13:44.955 --> 00:13:48.845 so they really, yeah, I really do love them very much, yeah. 00:13:49.810 --> 00:13:52.090 Anke: So, I mean, if people then go on holidays, would 00:13:52.100 --> 00:13:53.210 they leave the dog with you? 00:13:53.210 --> 00:13:56.240 Is that something that they kind of ask you or you'd consider? 00:13:57.660 --> 00:14:01.040 Catherine: Here in the UK, you have to have a license to do boarding. 00:14:01.440 --> 00:14:07.340 Um, but I do know plenty of good boarders, um, either kennels, because 00:14:07.340 --> 00:14:11.330 some dogs do prefer kennels, or some people have home boardings. 00:14:11.330 --> 00:14:16.340 So I do have a good network of people that I can refer to if they need it, 00:14:16.340 --> 00:14:19.780 but I personally can't do boarding, because I don't have a license. 00:14:20.985 --> 00:14:23.505 Anke: I mean, well, if you'd wanted to, you'd got the license, right? 00:14:24.345 --> 00:14:24.675 ? Catherine: Yeah. 00:14:25.515 --> 00:14:28.965 I think the thing with boarding is it's 24 7. 00:14:29.505 --> 00:14:29.865 Yeah. 00:14:30.825 --> 00:14:31.035 Yeah. 00:14:31.035 --> 00:14:32.955 And it's a massive responsibility. 00:14:33.345 --> 00:14:33.525 Anke: Yeah. 00:14:33.525 --> 00:14:37.265 I guess this way you kind of have stall kind of control over your life. 00:14:38.960 --> 00:14:39.580 Yes, 00:14:40.090 --> 00:14:40.390 Catherine: exactly. 00:14:40.440 --> 00:14:43.770 And I've got my own dog as well and he, he does get on very well with, 00:14:43.970 --> 00:14:47.680 um, most dogs, but I think, don't know if he'd get a bit annoyed with loads 00:14:47.680 --> 00:14:49.290 of dogs coming around all the time. 00:14:49.970 --> 00:14:50.880 So I've got him to think of. 00:14:53.030 --> 00:14:57.425 Anke: So where can people go and find out more and like see Especially obviously, 00:14:57.425 --> 00:15:00.435 well, if they live in your area, you know, like, hey, can you walk my dog? 00:15:00.465 --> 00:15:03.945 But then also I'm thinking, you know, if they want to learn about the first 00:15:03.955 --> 00:15:07.445 aid, because that's really relevant for any dog owner, like wherever you live. 00:15:07.515 --> 00:15:07.865 Yeah. 00:15:07.865 --> 00:15:10.595 You know, where can, where can people find out more and 00:15:10.625 --> 00:15:11.815 get in touch and all of these? 00:15:12.045 --> 00:15:14.815 Catherine: Um, so probably the easiest way to find me is through 00:15:14.815 --> 00:15:16.625 my website, which is Mutliz. 00:15:17.445 --> 00:15:19.945 Um, it's www. 00:15:20.005 --> 00:15:20.115 mutliz. 00:15:20.135 --> 00:15:20.315 me. 00:15:20.315 --> 00:15:23.945 uk, but it's Mutliz spelt the same way as the cartoon character. 00:15:25.785 --> 00:15:27.575 I don't know if you've, if you've ever seen him. 00:15:27.675 --> 00:15:28.685 It was a big thing in the UK. 00:15:28.685 --> 00:15:30.805 I don't know. 00:15:30.805 --> 00:15:31.375 I'll check it 00:15:31.375 --> 00:15:31.725 Anke: out now. 00:15:31.755 --> 00:15:32.005 Yeah. 00:15:32.135 --> 00:15:32.785 No, you must. 00:15:35.345 --> 00:15:35.665 Okay. 00:15:35.665 --> 00:15:36.335 That's awesome. 00:15:36.335 --> 00:15:36.995 Well, thank you. 00:15:37.015 --> 00:15:37.895 Thank you so much. 00:15:38.245 --> 00:15:41.795 Uh, you know, because it feels like it's one of those, you know, one of 00:15:41.795 --> 00:15:45.425 those kinds of work that everybody goes like, Oh, I wish I could do that. 00:15:45.825 --> 00:15:45.995 Right. 00:15:46.025 --> 00:15:50.375 You know, because so many dog lovers like, Oh, you know, I just love to 00:15:50.375 --> 00:15:51.905 hang out with dogs all day, every day. 00:15:51.905 --> 00:15:53.875 So you, you make that your business. 00:15:53.875 --> 00:15:55.205 I think that's amazing. 00:15:55.245 --> 00:15:55.635 Catherine: Yeah. 00:15:55.635 --> 00:15:56.925 It's very rewarding. 00:15:56.935 --> 00:16:02.255 But also When it's slinging it down with rain, it can be quite, yeah, 00:16:02.465 --> 00:16:06.485 which it does a lot in the UK, it can be, yeah, quite hard work, but 00:16:06.485 --> 00:16:08.015 no, I wouldn't, I wouldn't change it. 00:16:08.915 --> 00:16:09.395 Anke: I love that. 00:16:09.725 --> 00:16:10.845 Well, thank you so much. 00:16:10.905 --> 00:16:16.615 And, um, yeah, I hope, I hope to talk to you again soon and, um, yeah, 00:16:16.765 --> 00:16:20.805 find out everything about what's, what's new in your world and, um, 00:16:20.855 --> 00:16:25.495 mostly about, yeah, how to, how to help our dogs when they need it. 00:16:26.345 --> 00:16:26.875 Catherine: Lovely. 00:16:26.875 --> 00:16:27.815 very 00:16:27.815 --> 00:16:28.175 Anke: much. 00:16:28.315 --> 00:16:28.755 Catherine: Thank you. 00:16:30.454 --> 00:16:31.684 Thanks so much for listening. 00:16:32.204 --> 00:16:36.504 If you enjoyed the episode, don't forget to subscribe, and leave a review so 00:16:36.604 --> 00:16:38.384 other dog lovers can find the show. 00:16:39.174 --> 00:16:42.664 If you haven't already, head over to soul touched by dogs. 00:16:43.094 --> 00:16:48.664 com and sign up for weekly doggy cuteness tips, recommendations, and personal 00:16:48.764 --> 00:16:51.134 stories to warm your dog loving heart. 00:16:51.134 --> 00:16:54.864 And if you know a pawsome human you think I should interview, 00:16:55.284 --> 00:16:56.424 I'd love an introduction. 00:16:56.904 --> 00:16:58.734 Email me at Anke. 00:16:59.004 --> 00:17:03.239 That's A N k E at Soul touched by dogs.com.