1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:13,760 Welcome to the We Are More podcast. 2 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:15,640 My name is Alyssa. 3 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:16,640 And my name is Bri. 4 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:20,640 We're two sisters passionate about all things faith and feminism. 5 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:25,520 We believe that Jesus trusted, respected, and encouraged women to teach and preach His 6 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:26,520 word. 7 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:28,720 And apparently that's controversial. 8 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:31,520 Get comfy. 9 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:36,800 Piss, piss, piss. 10 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:38,320 You can't start like that. 11 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:39,320 All right. 12 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:40,320 Hello, everyone. 13 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:41,320 Hello. 14 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:44,400 Why do I always talk first? 15 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:45,880 Because you're annoying. 16 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:47,920 Oh, thank you. 17 00:00:47,920 --> 00:00:54,000 As Brianna sits there in sunglasses with a claw clip on the direct top of her head. 18 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,320 It's a good look. 19 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,560 If you put the claw clip, okay, life hack for you. 20 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:06,280 If you put the claw clip at the very top of your head, you can lay down. 21 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:08,040 That does sound like a pretty good hack. 22 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:09,040 I know. 23 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,240 Hey, all you people with hair. 24 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:14,080 Most of you probably. 25 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:15,080 Not necessarily. 26 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:16,080 Not necessarily. 27 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:18,760 They should have little claw clips for your leg hair. 28 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,600 How long is your leg hair? 29 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:22,920 Depends on the day. 30 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:27,600 I shaved yesterday, but it was really unaffected if I found out this morning. 31 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:28,600 Oh no. 32 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:31,360 I looked and I was like, oh. 33 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:35,000 Bree is just one of those razors that has the soap all around it. 34 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,920 And I feel like you can just never get a close shave with those. 35 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:42,440 Well, I think the issue is that you trust it too much. 36 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:43,440 You don't look. 37 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:44,440 Yeah. 38 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:45,440 That's probably a sad thing. 39 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:49,880 Or you just keep swiping and you think it's fine. 40 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:53,800 I need to read that book all about you or whatever it is, American Girl. 41 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:55,760 The American Girl one? 42 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:57,240 We have it in the house right now. 43 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,120 What is it called? 44 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:00,520 The Care and Keeping of You. 45 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:02,120 The Care and Keeping of You. 46 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:03,120 Okay. 47 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,720 So if you want a definition of who I am versus who Bree is. 48 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:10,520 I feel like we've talked about that before. 49 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:11,520 We had this book. 50 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:12,800 It's called The Care and Keeping of You, right? 51 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:13,800 All the girlies know it. 52 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:14,800 Oh yeah. 53 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:15,800 All the women know. 54 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:17,080 It's like the puberty book. 55 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,960 It's what you get when you're going through puberty. 56 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:22,680 And for some reason, American Girl wrote it. 57 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:23,680 Yeah. 58 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:24,680 Why? 59 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,720 They're like, you like dolls and you have a period. 60 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:32,280 But it's so helpful. 61 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:36,280 It explains everything in really basic terms and it's great. 62 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:44,360 So we had a copy of it when we were kids and our mom paper clipped together certain pages 63 00:02:44,360 --> 00:02:50,840 about periods and tampons and whatever because she hadn't had that conversation with us yet. 64 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:57,680 I would not have moved those paper clips if someone came up to me and said, if you don't 65 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,640 look in those pages, the world is going to explode. 66 00:03:00,640 --> 00:03:04,240 I would not ever have looked between those pages. 67 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:13,640 Brianna, the first thing she does, rip off the paper clips and read that section. 68 00:03:13,640 --> 00:03:14,920 Because all the fun people are with me. 69 00:03:14,920 --> 00:03:17,960 They want to know about tampons ASAP. 70 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:18,960 We just want to know. 71 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:19,960 They're curious. 72 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:20,960 You can read the side of the box. 73 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:27,080 I don't know if you know this, but when I was eight, I wasn't buying tampons and looking 74 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:28,080 through the boxes. 75 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:29,080 Mom probably had some. 76 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:30,080 Mom? 77 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:35,920 You want to chime in? 78 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:37,920 Mom is unfortunately not here. 79 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:44,120 Anyway, today we're going to be talking about the woman at the well. 80 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:48,320 The woman, the woman at the well, well, well, well. 81 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:49,800 I made that up when I was in the bathroom. 82 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:53,000 Oh, I just want to hear like, is this a thing? 83 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,120 Is this a Veggie Tales episode I don't remember? 84 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,080 I feel like it's the tune to something. 85 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:58,960 I don't know what it is. 86 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:04,200 It's now to the woman at the well, which is the theme song to today's episode. 87 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:05,200 Oh good. 88 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,240 We get a theme song. 89 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:11,380 Should I just take out our intro song and pop that in there? 90 00:04:11,380 --> 00:04:12,380 Just me on the loop. 91 00:04:12,380 --> 00:04:17,380 The woman at the well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, 92 00:04:17,380 --> 00:04:19,380 well, well, well, well, well, well, well. 93 00:04:19,380 --> 00:04:20,380 Darn it. 94 00:04:20,380 --> 00:04:21,380 All the heck. 95 00:04:21,380 --> 00:04:25,800 We're going to be talking through this story. 96 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:26,800 It's found in John. 97 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:30,680 Bree thought it was found in all the gospels, but she's a liar. 98 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:36,880 I'm just saying it's the Mandela effect because one of the top things that pops up on Google, 99 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:37,880 just search whatever. 100 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:38,880 It is that. 101 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:42,440 It is the woman at the well story in all four gospels. 102 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,200 Other people are with me. 103 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,280 Well other people are looking for the information. 104 00:04:47,280 --> 00:04:48,280 As am I. 105 00:04:48,280 --> 00:04:49,760 You've convinced yourself. 106 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:51,040 I took a class on this. 107 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:52,040 I'm pretty sure. 108 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:53,960 I don't know what to tell you. 109 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:56,560 The internet says and so does the Bible. 110 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:57,560 I'm sorry. 111 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:58,560 I'm really upset. 112 00:04:58,560 --> 00:04:59,560 I'm sorry. 113 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:03,720 I feel like my dreams are shattered just like the Berenstein Bears. 114 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:04,720 Huh. 115 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:05,720 Okay. 116 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:06,720 Another Mandela effect. 117 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:07,720 I can talk about this later. 118 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:08,720 Oh good. 119 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:15,240 So the story of the woman at the well is found in John. 120 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:16,360 Sorry, Bree. 121 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:18,800 And I believe it's four. 122 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:19,960 John chapter four. 123 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:29,160 So the basics of this story are that there's a woman and there's a well and there's Jesus. 124 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,800 So this woman, I'm not going to read the whole four word story to you. 125 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:33,800 I wish you would. 126 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:34,800 I will not. 127 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,360 I'm just going to kind of talk through it, but I would encourage you to read it. 128 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,840 So John chapter four is where you can find it. 129 00:05:39,840 --> 00:05:41,480 Pause everybody. 130 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:42,860 Everybody pause. 131 00:05:42,860 --> 00:05:47,440 Open your Bibles to John chapter four. 132 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,160 Read it to yourself and then hit play. 133 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:50,500 All right. 134 00:05:50,500 --> 00:05:55,560 So now that you've done that, I'm still going to explain it to you because some of you won't. 135 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:56,560 Like Bree. 136 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:57,560 Bree would not have. 137 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:58,560 No. 138 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:00,800 I don't follow directions. 139 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,700 And the pastors say repeat after me or whatever and they say, or they say turn to your neighbor 140 00:06:04,700 --> 00:06:07,120 and say, no, I absolutely refuse. 141 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:08,120 I do too. 142 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:09,120 And it drives Nathan insane. 143 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:13,120 I just, I'm not going to, no, I'm not going to do that. 144 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:14,120 It's not kindergarten. 145 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:15,120 We're not repeating after me. 146 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:16,120 I never do. 147 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:17,120 Okay. 148 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:25,680 The woman at the well, there's a Samaritan woman and she is walking to the well. 149 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:26,680 It's Jacob's well. 150 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:30,040 So this is like an ancient, I don't know how else to say ancient. 151 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:31,040 It's a really ancient well. 152 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:34,000 Find some more synonyms for ancient please. 153 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,920 Really really old. 154 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,960 So she walks out kind of in the middle of the day. 155 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:44,640 Now normally people would have gone out in the morning or in the evenings because it's 156 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:45,640 cooler. 157 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:46,640 Yeah. 158 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:47,640 Cause it's, they're in the desert. 159 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:48,640 It's hot. 160 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:49,640 They're out bleeding in the desert. 161 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:51,280 I'm telling you what. 162 00:06:51,280 --> 00:06:56,300 And so she goes in the middle of the day, probably for some privacy. 163 00:06:56,300 --> 00:07:01,040 Now there's arguments back and forth about why she would have wanted that privacy. 164 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:06,240 Some scholars say that she probably wasn't treated very well by the other women in her 165 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,920 community and so she didn't want to be around them. 166 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:09,920 I do that. 167 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:11,760 Yeah, I do a lot. 168 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:16,560 But our friend Mark, who has a fantastic blog that we've talked about in the past, she's 169 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:17,960 fantastic. 170 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:22,280 She says that there's no evidence that this woman was there to avoid other people or that 171 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,200 she was being treated poorly in her community. 172 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:30,440 There are other instances in the Bible of women going to the well at random times of 173 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:31,440 the day. 174 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:32,440 Yeah. 175 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:33,440 Hey, sometimes you just need water. 176 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:34,440 Yeah. 177 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,760 And potentially just today specifically, she wanted some privacy. 178 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:39,760 She just wanted a quiet walk. 179 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,040 Maybe her kids were driving her crazy. 180 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:45,560 Maybe the chickens got out and she just ran away. 181 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:51,640 She just left that problem for someone else. 182 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:53,280 So she goes out to the well. 183 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:58,680 And I want to talk through, I want to say, tell this story from a feminist perspective, 184 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:04,480 but I think more tell this story from the perspective of a woman. 185 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:05,560 Yeah. 186 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:11,480 I think sometimes it's really hard to put Bible stories, to make them real in your head 187 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:12,760 because it's so far removed. 188 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:16,840 How often are we in what century are we in? 189 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:17,840 The 21st? 190 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:18,840 Yes. 191 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:24,040 Now, obviously other places, they are walking to wells. 192 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,480 I don't want to, you know what I'm trying to say. 193 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,440 But us sitting here in the United States. 194 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:31,000 I can go downstairs and get a bottle of water. 195 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:32,000 Right. 196 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,280 But let's make it something more real in our heads. 197 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,040 You're stopping at a gas station. 198 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:37,040 Yeah. 199 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:38,040 Perfect. 200 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:41,880 So let's say as a woman, you're stopping at a gas station. 201 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:45,320 I did that today, but not for gas. 202 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:50,160 Now you're specifically going at a time where nobody else is going to be around. 203 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:51,160 Late at night. 204 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:52,700 Late at night. 205 00:08:52,700 --> 00:08:58,080 She walks to the well or you walk to the gas station or drive to the gas station. 206 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:05,160 And as she gets there, there is a singular man there. 207 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,240 Now men should not be at this well. 208 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:08,240 Okay. 209 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,880 Men don't come to the well and get the water. 210 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:11,880 That's the women's job. 211 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:17,200 Very, very rarely are you going to see a man at this well. 212 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:22,880 Imagine if you're at a gas station, the middle of the night, you pull in and there's a singular 213 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:26,080 man just chilling. 214 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:27,620 He's not pumping gas. 215 00:09:27,620 --> 00:09:29,680 He's not doing the thing he's supposed to be at the gas station for. 216 00:09:29,680 --> 00:09:31,040 He doesn't even have a car. 217 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:32,040 Yeah. 218 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:33,640 He's just standing there. 219 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:34,640 Okay. 220 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,200 You're terrified. 221 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:38,960 I would be terrified. 222 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,680 I would pull my car back out and leave. 223 00:09:41,680 --> 00:09:46,080 I'd say, I'll let this thing run out of gas before I stop here. 224 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:47,760 But she probably doesn't have that option. 225 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:49,560 I mean, water is non-negotiable. 226 00:09:49,560 --> 00:09:50,560 And also you're walking. 227 00:09:50,560 --> 00:09:54,760 It's not like you're going to be like, I'll come back later. 228 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:56,400 Catch you next time. 229 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:57,640 No. 230 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:04,480 So she has to go into this situation that probably to her feels very threatening, very 231 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:05,480 scary. 232 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,360 At the very least, she's uncomfortable. 233 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:09,360 Yeah. 234 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,680 If she had come at a different time of day, there would be other women around. 235 00:10:11,680 --> 00:10:16,400 Even if there was a man in the mix, like, okay, but there's witnesses, right? 236 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:17,400 There's not anybody. 237 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:18,880 It's just her and him. 238 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:19,880 Yep. 239 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:26,480 And she gets there and Jesus doesn't even have a cup or anything to drink from the well. 240 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:28,680 He doesn't have a bucket to get water out of the well. 241 00:10:28,680 --> 00:10:30,000 He has nothing. 242 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:35,680 He's just suspiciously hanging out as a man somewhere he shouldn't be in the middle of 243 00:10:35,680 --> 00:10:38,000 the day. 244 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:43,480 Now as she walks up to him, the next thing that she notices is that he's Jewish. 245 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,600 Now she's a Samaritan woman and the Samaritans were- 246 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:49,640 At odds with. 247 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:53,500 They were at odds with the Jewish people, but they came from the same ancestors. 248 00:10:53,500 --> 00:11:00,520 It's like in Harry Potter, how they call the people who have one wizard parent and one 249 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:04,000 human parent, they call them half-bloods. 250 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:05,680 It's like that. 251 00:11:05,680 --> 00:11:09,600 So she was someone who had some Jewish descent and some non-Jewish descent. 252 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:16,480 I love that so far we've referenced this very popular historical Bible story with a gas 253 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:19,120 station in Harry Potter. 254 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,240 How can we make this real to you? 255 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,520 That sounds on par with everything in my life. 256 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:25,800 Yeah, I like Harry Potter. 257 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,960 So she walks up to him and she sees that he's a Jewish man. 258 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:32,040 Now I don't know how she recognizes this. 259 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:36,920 I don't know if there was a large difference in looks or in clothes or anything like that. 260 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:43,960 And super interesting thing about the Jewish people at the time is that most of the religious 261 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:47,680 Jewish people would avoid Samaria completely. 262 00:11:47,680 --> 00:11:52,600 So when they were on their journeys to get wherever they were going, walking. 263 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:58,280 They would go around Samaria. 264 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,040 It's like two extra days of walking. 265 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,680 That's how much they disliked these people, okay? 266 00:12:03,680 --> 00:12:07,760 I cannot think of anyone, and I don't like a lot of people, but I can't think of anyone 267 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:13,280 I dislike enough to walk two additional days just to avoid them. 268 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:17,160 Although I will go out of my way to go to a different Starbucks, just because I like 269 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:18,160 the coffee. 270 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:19,160 But the coffee's better. 271 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,120 It's not the people, it's the coffee's better. 272 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,040 The people are nicer there too. 273 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:24,280 A little bit. 274 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:27,520 My best friend is there. 275 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:29,520 Best friend, if you're listening. 276 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:30,520 Hey bestie. 277 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:32,600 You make really good coffee. 278 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:35,200 I'm sure you don't know my name. 279 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:36,200 They know my name. 280 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,380 I'm mobile owner. 281 00:12:38,380 --> 00:12:43,860 So she gets there, Jesus is there, he's a Jewish man. 282 00:12:43,860 --> 00:12:50,520 In my mind, all of these things say I'm in a dangerous situation. 283 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:56,160 Because if she's, let's say, and I'm not going to use Jesus in this example, but let's 284 00:12:56,160 --> 00:13:04,040 say it's a different man, and he attacks her, and she takes that to the Jewish authorities, 285 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:05,920 they're not going to listen to her. 286 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:09,680 Not only is she a Samaritan who they don't like, she's a woman. 287 00:13:09,680 --> 00:13:15,400 The testimony of a woman at the time, it's well documented, was literally not considered 288 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:17,120 truthful. 289 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,400 It wasn't considered evidence of any kind. 290 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:22,240 They barely considered women people. 291 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:27,440 So there's no way anybody's caring if she gets attacked. 292 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:33,560 So the story, as we go on, the way that I have been told it is, and I've heard this 293 00:13:33,560 --> 00:13:41,760 preached a thousand times, pastors will often talk about her as though she's really rude 294 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:42,760 to Jesus. 295 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,240 And you'll see where that comes from in a second. 296 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:49,220 Or really sassy with Jesus, or she's got an attitude, or whatever. 297 00:13:49,220 --> 00:13:56,440 But I want to put forth as you listen to what their conversation is that she's scared. 298 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,560 She's on the defensive already. 299 00:13:59,560 --> 00:14:05,440 And I don't know about you, but in my life, when I get into situations like that, I do 300 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:07,280 one of two things. 301 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:11,600 If someone comments something to me and I feel uncomfortable and unsafe, I try and laugh 302 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:16,360 it off and diffuse the situation that way and get out as quickly as possible. 303 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:20,520 Before I get angry and try and push that person away as quickly as possible. 304 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:24,360 You'll puff up your peacock feathers and make yourself as big as possible. 305 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,360 And say, get out of the way. 306 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,200 I'm big and scary. 307 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:31,720 All five feet of me. 308 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:39,920 And so I think in my mind, and this is just conjecture from Alyssa, I think she's scared. 309 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,200 I think she's really scared. 310 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:51,160 Additionally, and we'll get into it, she has all kinds of background with men that's scary. 311 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:55,040 And she probably has no trust for men at all. 312 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:59,520 And now here's a man that she really, really, really shouldn't trust. 313 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:02,640 And of course we have the benefit of knowing it's Jesus. 314 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:03,640 But she didn't know that. 315 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:04,960 She didn't know. 316 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:08,200 Even if he said, my name's Jesus, that means nothing to her at the time. 317 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:11,360 She's like, awesome, my brother's name is Jesus. 318 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:19,920 Also, Samaritans didn't practice quite the same religion as the Jewish people. 319 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:25,080 My understanding is it was kind of like a hybrid kind of how they were partially Jewish 320 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:28,080 and partially not, because they were not allowed in the temples. 321 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,000 The Jewish people wouldn't let them in there. 322 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:37,200 So even if somehow she, and she does know a little bit as the story goes on, even if 323 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:43,960 she did know, okay, this is kind of the Jewish religion, she wouldn't have all that connection. 324 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:49,000 Also, she's a woman, so she wouldn't have been allowed to be educated in religion. 325 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,160 So Jesus starts talking to her, right? 326 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:56,240 And the first thing he does is ask her for a drink. 327 00:15:56,240 --> 00:16:03,480 And this is, so I'm pulling some of this from Marg's article, and he asks her for a drink 328 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:07,320 and she's shocked that he's speaking to her at all. 329 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,840 And again, now you're on the defensive. 330 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:13,040 Imagine that you pull up to the gas station, there's the single man over there and you're 331 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:17,920 just trying to pump your gas as fast as possible and you are like, things are fumbling and 332 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,480 you're trying to get your credit card in there. 333 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:24,500 And then he walks over to you, there's nobody else around. 334 00:16:24,500 --> 00:16:29,560 He walks over to you and starts talking to you and he asks, hey, can you come pump the 335 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,240 gas in my car? 336 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:37,800 I didn't bring anything to pump gas with, I didn't bring a car, but can you come help 337 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:38,800 me? 338 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:39,800 Have you seen that? 339 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:40,800 Here we go. 340 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:41,800 Have you seen that TikTok? 341 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:42,800 Oh my gosh. 342 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:50,080 It's just like security footage of a gas station and this person was pumping their gas and 343 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:55,760 a van pulls up and a bunch of people jump out, try to mug the guy and he takes the gas 344 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:59,400 out of the car and sprays it into their car and in their faces. 345 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,160 That's what I would do in that moment. 346 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:02,880 Yeah, because you've seen the TikTok. 347 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:06,160 See, TikTok is educational, ladies and gentlemen. 348 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,520 Sure, sure it is. 349 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:10,360 Actually I've seen some really great TikToks lately. 350 00:17:10,360 --> 00:17:13,880 Yeah, you zip it. 351 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:18,760 So anyway, so he asks her for a drink and I find this fascinating. 352 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:26,120 So in Marg's article, she talks about the fact that, so the woman basically says, how 353 00:17:26,120 --> 00:17:27,840 can you ask me for this? 354 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:29,960 You're Jewish, you're a man. 355 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:31,360 You shouldn't even be talking to me. 356 00:17:31,360 --> 00:17:35,840 She points this out to him again on the defensive, leave me alone. 357 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:37,080 Stop speaking to me. 358 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,760 I'm scared. 359 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:45,280 And so the words that are used depending on the translation are, she says, Jews do not 360 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:50,140 associate or have dealings with Samaritans depending on the translation. 361 00:17:50,140 --> 00:17:55,400 So the Greek word for associate, I'm going to butcher this, okay? 362 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:58,640 We all knew you're going to. 363 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,600 So it's sugchromai. 364 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,400 Say it again for the people in the back. 365 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:05,400 Nope. 366 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:11,120 And it also means the sharing of eating utensils and dishes. 367 00:18:11,120 --> 00:18:12,480 Okay. 368 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:17,520 So I think back to segregation. 369 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,360 That's kind of a similar feel here. 370 00:18:20,360 --> 00:18:24,800 And I love breaking that apart because I've never heard anyone explain it that way. 371 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:25,800 No, that's really interesting. 372 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:26,800 Yeah. 373 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:28,880 Like, don't touch my bucket. 374 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:29,880 Yeah. 375 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:33,440 Well, he would have thought she was unclean. 376 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:34,940 And it goes into that later. 377 00:18:34,940 --> 00:18:36,840 So this is fascinating. 378 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:42,240 So the Jews have all these rules about when women are on their periods, right? 379 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:43,640 Bleeding in the desert. 380 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:48,400 When you're on your period, you are considered unclean for the entire time. 381 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:49,640 Nobody can touch you. 382 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:54,880 Like you're a pariah for seven days out of the month, which maybe is not terrible. 383 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:55,880 Maybe you get to be alone. 384 00:18:55,880 --> 00:19:02,840 And then you have to go through a whole cleansing ritual in order to be able to be allowed back 385 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:05,120 in the temple, to be able to be allowed back in society. 386 00:19:05,120 --> 00:19:06,120 I'm not even kidding. 387 00:19:06,120 --> 00:19:07,600 It's for real. 388 00:19:07,600 --> 00:19:15,480 So the Jews regarded Samaritan women as, and this is a quote, menstruants from the cradle. 389 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,440 Oh my gosh. 390 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:20,480 Oh my gosh. 391 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,280 So can we title the podcast? 392 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,800 Menstruants from the cradle. 393 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:27,560 No. 394 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:30,680 Oh. 395 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:36,440 So that would have meant that she was always considered unclean by them. 396 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:38,560 A hundred percent of the time. 397 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:44,040 Constantly bleeding from the day she was birthed, literally from the cradle. 398 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:46,840 Man, what a life. 399 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:51,000 So she's, there's no reason Jesus should be talking to her here. 400 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:52,120 He shouldn't be here. 401 00:19:52,120 --> 00:19:53,720 He shouldn't be in her country. 402 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:55,900 He shouldn't be at her well. 403 00:19:55,900 --> 00:19:59,120 He should not be anywhere in the vicinity. 404 00:19:59,120 --> 00:20:00,480 Did you bring me here? 405 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:04,240 Did you rub my lip? 406 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,120 So Jesus starts talking to her. 407 00:20:07,120 --> 00:20:11,280 She says, why are you speaking to me? 408 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:15,200 And Jesus starts talking about living water. 409 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:19,320 Now the metaphor here, so he says this well, you're going to drink from it and you're going 410 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:20,320 to be hungry. 411 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:21,320 I'm sorry, thirsty again. 412 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:22,320 You probably always be hungry. 413 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:25,200 You leave thirsty again. 414 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:30,680 But I have living water and if you drink this living water, you'll never be thirsty again, 415 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:31,880 right? 416 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:33,960 Now I want you to go back to the gas station. 417 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:34,960 Okay. 418 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:35,960 I'm closing my eyes. 419 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:39,160 I'm back at the gas station. 420 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:40,160 You're trying to pump your gas. 421 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:41,160 You're trying to go as quick as possible. 422 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:42,160 This man comes up to you. 423 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:43,160 He's like, help me out. 424 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:46,440 You're like, no, me, me. 425 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,280 And then he starts talking like a psycho. 426 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:50,600 Okay. 427 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,040 Now they have this gas at my house. 428 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:58,960 That's the best gas you'll ever have. 429 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,960 Okay. 430 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,360 So we're making light of it. 431 00:21:05,360 --> 00:21:09,320 But the point is, it sounds really crazy. 432 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:10,320 What he's saying. 433 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:15,080 And there's no precedent for this in the Bible that I can find this whole living water metaphor 434 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:18,440 in the Old Testament in anything. 435 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:22,720 And she probably wouldn't have been familiar with that anyway, but it wasn't even there. 436 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,640 This is a fresh concept. 437 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:25,640 Yeah. 438 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:27,520 And Jesus, he's a little confusing sometimes. 439 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:33,440 He talks in these parables and yes, with the benefit of time, we can sit here and pull 440 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:34,440 them apart. 441 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:35,440 Right. 442 00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:39,160 But she's standing there and this man is talking crazy talk. 443 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:40,840 And she's already scared of him. 444 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:47,040 And now he's talking about water that you're never thirsty with and gas that will fill 445 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,640 up your car until the end of time. 446 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:50,640 I want that gas. 447 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,640 He's got a Tesla at home. 448 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:57,960 He doesn't need any gas. 449 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:04,840 So he starts talking about this and she's like, okay, I'm going to go with you here. 450 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:06,080 Right. 451 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:11,800 Now I again, Alyssa's translation of things, you take this however you want. 452 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:16,720 But my thought is I'm going to pacify this man. 453 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:20,560 I'm going to use the situation to get out of this alive. 454 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,280 I'm going to smile and nod. 455 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,020 And so she kind of does. 456 00:22:25,020 --> 00:22:29,240 And she asks him, okay, where can I get this living water? 457 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:34,360 Now interestingly, living water in a way meant flowing water. 458 00:22:34,360 --> 00:22:38,240 So that might've been how she understood it, like a river. 459 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:41,080 So many songs just went through my head. 460 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,000 Did you want to sing one of them? 461 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:47,920 I hear it's flowing with milk and honey. 462 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:48,920 Sounds sticky. 463 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,360 Cause we're going to the promised land. 464 00:22:51,360 --> 00:22:52,360 Hey, hey. 465 00:22:52,360 --> 00:22:53,360 Wow. 466 00:22:53,360 --> 00:22:57,640 Those veggie tales in case any of you had a sad childhood and didn't see it. 467 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:04,640 The only reason that came to my head was the word flowing. 468 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,280 I thought we were going to get a period joke. 469 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,560 Oh, I could do that too. 470 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,560 We should really warn dad and Brandon at least. 471 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:12,880 Don't listen. 472 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,320 I don't care. 473 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:19,440 That's going to go somewhere else with that. 474 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,480 And that's where it landed. 475 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,600 So this story is, it's a very long story, right? 476 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:30,440 This is actually, interestingly, the longest recorded conversation that Jesus has. 477 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,920 The longest recorded one. 478 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,860 And so she says, where can I get this living water? 479 00:23:36,860 --> 00:23:42,480 And Jesus would have made me a lot even more uncomfortable. 480 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,960 And he says, well, go get your husband. 481 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:46,840 We'll talk more about it. 482 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,960 Which wouldn't have been that weird for the time because realistically they shouldn't 483 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,040 have been talking anyway. 484 00:23:53,040 --> 00:24:02,960 So maybe she's like, maybe this would have been a normal statement to say, okay, we've 485 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:04,640 talked too much. 486 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:08,200 I'd love to keep chatting about this with you, but it would be more appropriate if you 487 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:09,200 brought your husband. 488 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:10,200 Right. 489 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:11,200 Because of the time. 490 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:12,200 Yeah. 491 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,720 So she says to Jesus, I don't have a husband. 492 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,920 I would say the same thing to Jesus. 493 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:26,280 Now she, again, whenever I've heard this preached, it's like being really sassy, right? 494 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,280 That's not indicated in the Bible. 495 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,840 It's kind of like a text message where you, when you're reading the Bible, like you don't 496 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,640 know what the tone of voice was. 497 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:37,360 It's not even the same language. 498 00:24:37,360 --> 00:24:38,360 Emojis were created. 499 00:24:38,360 --> 00:24:39,680 They didn't have them back then. 500 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:40,680 They didn't have emojis. 501 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:41,680 No. 502 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:42,680 They didn't have emojis. 503 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:43,680 They had faces. 504 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:50,160 So she tells this to Jesus and Jesus basically says, yeah, you're right. 505 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,040 You don't have a husband. 506 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,040 You've had five husbands. 507 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:57,840 And I'm trying to do this in such a tone that is conveyed in the Bible because there's no 508 00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,200 judgment from Jesus. 509 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:00,200 No. 510 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:01,200 He's just stating a fact. 511 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:02,200 Yep. 512 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,500 There's no condemnation whatsoever. 513 00:25:04,500 --> 00:25:06,920 And he says, you're right. 514 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,440 You don't have a husband. 515 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,480 You've had five husbands. 516 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,400 And the man that you're with now is not your husband. 517 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,200 Just matter of fact. 518 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:16,200 Okay. 519 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,360 So now you're back at the gas station. 520 00:25:18,360 --> 00:25:20,360 I'm back at the gas station. 521 00:25:20,360 --> 00:25:21,840 The man has come up to you. 522 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:26,280 He said, back at my house, I've got a Tesla. 523 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:31,160 It doesn't need any gas if you want to come back with me. 524 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:37,540 And then he starts telling you the deepest, darkest secrets about yourself that he absolutely 525 00:25:37,540 --> 00:25:39,200 should not know. 526 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,840 Brianna, you've had 17 boyfriends. 527 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,840 That's not true. 528 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:50,120 That's not true at all. 529 00:25:50,120 --> 00:25:54,920 Teresa, you've had 49 boyfriends. 530 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,600 Sorry, mom. 531 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,400 And she gets scared probably again. 532 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:08,560 Now it doesn't say that, but I'm just thinking in this scenario, you would have to be. 533 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,440 It's frightening, right? 534 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,680 The stranger man is talking to me. 535 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:14,680 He shouldn't be. 536 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:16,120 He's talking a lot of nonsense. 537 00:26:16,120 --> 00:26:18,600 And now he's a psychic. 538 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,940 He's that so raven. 539 00:26:20,940 --> 00:26:24,720 But he knows way too intimate details about her life. 540 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:25,720 Probably details. 541 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:29,440 Now, it doesn't say that she's ashamed of these things necessarily. 542 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:33,040 Some people have assumed that because she's at the well in the middle of the day, that 543 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,480 that means people aren't nice to her. 544 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:40,200 People are crossing the street to avoid her, and so she's ashamed of her past. 545 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,080 There's really nothing to indicate that. 546 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:47,960 However, it's probably not something she was advertising. 547 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,640 So you probably would have had to know her for quite a long time to know, yeah, she's 548 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:56,400 been through five husbands at this point, and now she's with someone who isn't her 549 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:57,400 husband. 550 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,000 And it doesn't indicate what that relationship looks like. 551 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,600 It doesn't mean she's sleeping with him. 552 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:06,120 But really, there's no, again, there's no judgment from Jesus. 553 00:27:06,120 --> 00:27:13,640 And Jesus at no point to her says, go and repent, or go and sin no more. 554 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,760 He doesn't say that, and that's significant because he said that to other people. 555 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,540 He does not say that to her. 556 00:27:19,540 --> 00:27:24,680 So there's no indication of wrongdoing on her part in this, but she gets shamed all 557 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:25,680 the time. 558 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:31,960 S-L-U-T, isn't that a song? 559 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,240 Yeah, sweet little unforgettable thing. 560 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:35,240 Thank you. 561 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,240 You're welcome. 562 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:45,080 Marg's article then goes on to say that her history fits a pattern that would be common 563 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:46,780 for women of her time. 564 00:27:46,780 --> 00:27:51,080 She got married probably in her early teens. 565 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,800 And I know that's- Just like our great grandmother. 566 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:54,800 Yeah. 567 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,640 She was a little icky, but it was common at the time. 568 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,000 That was expected. 569 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,600 So she probably got married very, very young. 570 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:09,160 And from there, the Samaritan laws- And I tried to look up specifically what the Samaritan 571 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,960 laws for divorce would have been. 572 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:16,360 And all I was able to find- There's not, I mean, there's not a lot of historical context 573 00:28:16,360 --> 00:28:17,360 here. 574 00:28:17,360 --> 00:28:20,000 I'm sure if I dug real far that I probably could. 575 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:25,200 But it says in the first century, Samaritan divorce laws were based on the Torah, which 576 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:29,120 was the first few chapters of the Bible. 577 00:28:29,120 --> 00:28:34,120 And they gave the husband almost complete power to initiate a divorce. 578 00:28:34,120 --> 00:28:42,320 When it's presented at church, in the churches I've been in, it's so often, well, she divorced 579 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:43,320 all these men. 580 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,960 She went through a bunch of men because she wanted to sleep around. 581 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:48,400 And so here she is. 582 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:55,720 Or even if they're not saying that, it's kind of implied that something was wrong with her, 583 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,480 that the men didn't want to stay in her life. 584 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:04,560 And the reality is men had full power to divorce women. 585 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:10,280 She would not have had almost any power at all to divorce her husbands. 586 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:18,640 But they would have had almost complete power to divorce her with zero repercussions. 587 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,160 They're either dead or they're divorcing her. 588 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:25,640 So imagine the heartbreak. 589 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:31,760 Because also once you have been married and then you're no longer married, you almost 590 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:35,160 have to get married again quickly in that society. 591 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,800 Because otherwise, again, you're an outcast. 592 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,480 Women wouldn't have had a lot of options for making money. 593 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:47,480 So once she had been married and was no longer married, whether it was through divorce or 594 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:56,120 death, her option was essentially to either become a prostitute or live on the streets 595 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:57,120 as- Begging. 596 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:58,120 Yeah. 597 00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:59,120 Or to get married again. 598 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:00,120 Yeah. 599 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:01,300 Those were her options. 600 00:30:01,300 --> 00:30:08,240 So once you go through the first divorce or death, you've got three options. 601 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,440 Go through the second divorce or death, three options. 602 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,120 None of them are good options. 603 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,440 But this is all survival. 604 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:19,360 So now think of the crazy man at the gas station. 605 00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:24,920 I don't like to refer to this as like Jesus is crazy, but in her mind that had to have 606 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,960 been kind of what the thought process was. 607 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:34,400 He tugs on the most sensitive, painful part of your life. 608 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:40,680 Not because you've done anything wrong, but because you have been hurt by everyone in 609 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:42,760 that story. 610 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,760 You have been ripped to shreds. 611 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:50,520 I would guess it's probably a combination of death and divorces. 612 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:54,360 Unless she's a black widow, baby. 613 00:30:54,360 --> 00:31:01,600 The divorces, I think, it would have hurt in a deeper way because they tossed her to 614 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:02,600 the side. 615 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,320 Whether it was- It was a choice to leave. 616 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:05,320 Yep. 617 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,720 Death really isn't a choice. 618 00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,360 She wasn't important enough for them to keep in their lives. 619 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:19,560 And so Jesus is going into this and she's like, ah! 620 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:25,440 And the only thing that she can make sense of is that maybe he's a prophet. 621 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:35,240 So a prophet at that time, or prophecy now also, it would be as though God gave you a 622 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,240 message for someone. 623 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:38,920 God gave you information about this person. 624 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:39,920 It came straight from God. 625 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,360 You have no way of knowing it before or after. 626 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:47,720 It just came, words came straight from heaven out your mouth. 627 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,060 So that's what she's assuming is happening here. 628 00:31:50,060 --> 00:31:52,880 And prophets would have been more common back then. 629 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:57,240 I don't think they were common common, but more common at the time. 630 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:01,440 Particularly within the Jewish religion, we see that happen several times. 631 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:07,360 So in John 419, she says, sir, I see you are a prophet. 632 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,840 So she directly says, you're a prophet. 633 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:14,400 And Jesus, he starts talking about religion. 634 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:19,560 When John 421 says, Jesus told her, believe me, woman, an hour is coming when you will 635 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:23,040 worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem. 636 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,600 You Samaritans worship what you do not know. 637 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,440 We worship what we do know because salvation is from the Jews. 638 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:32,920 So he's talking about the Jewish religion specifically and how the Samaritan religion 639 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,400 has broken off from that and it's different. 640 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:39,960 And then verse 23, but an hour is coming and is now here when the true worshipers will 641 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,280 worship the Father in spirit and in truth. 642 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,880 Yes, the Father wants such people to worship him. 643 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,500 God is spirit and those who worship him must worship in spirit and truth. 644 00:32:48,500 --> 00:32:50,960 And again, it's a little confusing. 645 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:52,040 The wording is a little confusing. 646 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,280 I would recommend looking it up in. 647 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:59,640 I like the message for stuff like this to just which is a version of the Bible. 648 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:00,800 It's not a translation. 649 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,440 It's a like a story. 650 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:04,440 It's written a little differently. 651 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,920 It's supposed to be written more in like modern English. 652 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,880 So it's a little easier to understand. 653 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,280 So then she says, no, I know. 654 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:13,600 I know the Messiah is coming. 655 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,000 I've been waiting on this too. 656 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,360 So again, the Samaritan people kind of knew some of this information. 657 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,000 So she says, I know that's happening. 658 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:28,640 And when the Messiah comes, when God's Son comes, he'll explain all of this to us. 659 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:35,880 He'll explain to us how to get to heaven, how to worship better, how to become one people, 660 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,440 whatever it is that she's hoping for in the future. 661 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,200 And Jesus says, so this is verse 26. 662 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:47,600 Jesus told her, I the one speaking to you, am he. 663 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,920 I don't think that the gas station analogy works anymore. 664 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,920 So I'm gonna let it go. 665 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,920 Man at the gas station. 666 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,240 It's fine. 667 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:00,800 Turns out he's actually Jesus. 668 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:07,040 Now I think the gas station analogy is so good because it allows us to put her in context 669 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:10,720 and think of her as a real human person in our time. 670 00:34:10,720 --> 00:34:14,320 But at the end of the day, she's actually talking to Jesus. 671 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:21,640 And this is the first recorded time that Jesus ever tells anybody that he's the Son of God. 672 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:22,640 How cool. 673 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:23,640 That's so cool. 674 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:24,640 It's so cool. 675 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:25,640 To a lady person. 676 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,000 I feel like a nerd. 677 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,680 I've always said that about you. 678 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:31,680 You have always said that about me. 679 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,640 From the day you were born. 680 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,400 You weren't there the day I was born. 681 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:36,400 Menstruating. 682 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:43,840 Anyway, I just think that's really cool. 683 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:50,760 Here she is, someone, whether she's an outcast from society or not, someone that hadn't had 684 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,440 it easy. 685 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,760 Someone that had struggled. 686 00:34:55,760 --> 00:35:00,880 And her story, which she probably at the time felt was so insignificant. 687 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,820 And probably how everybody in this world feels at some point. 688 00:35:03,820 --> 00:35:05,640 Your story doesn't matter. 689 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:10,640 You're a little ant on a log just floating along. 690 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,240 And her story is recorded in the Bible. 691 00:35:13,240 --> 00:35:16,960 And people talk about it for years and years and years. 692 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:17,960 That's incredible. 693 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,440 It is incredible. 694 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:25,880 When you think of your life and you're going through the hardest moments, it doesn't feel 695 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,880 like you're important. 696 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,580 And yet here she is. 697 00:35:30,580 --> 00:35:34,200 And she's talking to her creator. 698 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:35,820 And she doesn't know it right away. 699 00:35:35,820 --> 00:35:37,820 But then she does. 700 00:35:37,820 --> 00:35:39,880 And she believes him. 701 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:44,280 Now if I'm talking to the man at the gas station, I don't know that I'm believing him when he 702 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:45,280 says he's Jesus. 703 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:50,200 But I think that God probably gave her a supernatural understanding of that. 704 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:51,200 Yes, exactly. 705 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:56,080 But you have to think also, I love to dig into the background of it. 706 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,500 And again, this is guesses and assumptions. 707 00:35:58,500 --> 00:36:03,820 But I would think God had been preparing her for that moment. 708 00:36:03,820 --> 00:36:07,320 She talks about the fact that she knows about the Messiah. 709 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,200 She's waiting for him. 710 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:10,560 Once he gets there, he'll explain it. 711 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,720 So she has some background knowledge. 712 00:36:13,720 --> 00:36:15,840 She didn't just randomly show up here. 713 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,360 Jesus didn't just randomly show up here. 714 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:22,800 Choices were made on both sides to wind them up at this point. 715 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:28,140 I hate to say this, but everything happens for a reason. 716 00:36:28,140 --> 00:36:29,840 Maybe she slept in late that day. 717 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:30,840 Right. 718 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,520 She's like, ah, piss, piss, piss. 719 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,200 I need some freaking water. 720 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:40,280 I might as well go now. 721 00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:41,280 It's hot. 722 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,160 I don't really want to, but I'll go. 723 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:51,120 Well, and then Jesus, and I think it's tough because Jesus is fully God and fully human. 724 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:55,760 So did Jesus know when he made the choice to tell his disciples, no, we're going through 725 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:59,840 some area, we're not cutting around the way everybody else does, we're going straight 726 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:00,840 through? 727 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:05,040 No, I'm going to have this encounter with this woman. 728 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:09,720 Did he plan for this moment to be the moment that he was going to reveal who he was, or 729 00:37:09,720 --> 00:37:12,080 did he just have a connection with this person? 730 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:17,720 I think it's hard to wrap your mind around it, how you think of the three in one. 731 00:37:17,720 --> 00:37:21,000 You understand it, but you don't understand it. 732 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,160 If you think too hard about it, you're going to get your brain in knots. 733 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:30,680 I think Jesus was fully God and fully human, so it was kind of a blend of both maybe. 734 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,720 Like he knew, but he didn't know, but he knew. 735 00:37:33,720 --> 00:37:40,280 And if you're confused about the three in one thing, that's a very churchy thing where 736 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:46,960 we talk about the Trinity, which is God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit, who are like three people 737 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:47,960 in one person. 738 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,640 I don't know, it's very confusing. 739 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,400 I bet you if you Google it, AI has a great answer. 740 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,760 I bet it does, and we're not going to go into it because I don't have another four hours 741 00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:00,520 to explain or to understand it myself. 742 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:01,680 It's a lot. 743 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,240 It's a lot. 744 00:38:03,240 --> 00:38:09,160 So the rest of her story goes that she believes him. 745 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:13,600 She says, great, awesome, give me that living water. 746 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:15,800 This is super cool. 747 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,360 And she can't hold it in. 748 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:19,520 She runs back to her village. 749 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:24,000 Now it doesn't say, did she say goodbye or did she just turn and book it? 750 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,200 She forgot. 751 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:30,880 So she goes and she runs to her town, and the implication is that Jesus and his disciples 752 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:35,440 are eventually going to go through her town, so she's going to see him again. 753 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:42,640 But she goes to her town, who are Samaritan people who have been hurt by the Jewish people, 754 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,960 and she's telling all these people, there's this group of Jewish people. 755 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:52,560 And I'm not going to say Jewish men because we're also female women, not female women, 756 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:56,680 but female female disciples following along. 757 00:38:56,680 --> 00:39:01,040 So there's a group of Jewish people, again, who should not have been there. 758 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,360 The Samaritan people hate the Jewish people. 759 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:05,360 The Jewish people hate the Samaritan people. 760 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:09,160 And she's running in like, hey, hooray, the Jewish people are coming. 761 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:10,640 And they're like, hmm. 762 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:11,640 Like settle down. 763 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:12,640 Pass. 764 00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,680 What's wrong with you? 765 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,280 Do we need to start a war party? 766 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:21,240 It's probably not a positive reaction. 767 00:39:21,240 --> 00:39:26,480 And we don't know what her status was in the community, but whatever it was, she threw 768 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:32,280 it all to the side and probably embarrassed herself running around shouting through the 769 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:33,280 streets. 770 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,600 Now she's the crazy person. 771 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,960 We all got to be crazy. 772 00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,800 And she's like, the Messiah is here. 773 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,520 We've heard about him, and he's walking down the street. 774 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:44,520 He's behind me. 775 00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:46,020 You see him in the distance? 776 00:39:46,020 --> 00:39:51,480 He doesn't have a bucket for the well, but he's here. 777 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,280 It's as she immediately left her water jug and goes into town. 778 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,240 So she didn't have a water jug either. 779 00:39:56,240 --> 00:40:00,680 So because of her, tons of people in her town believe that testimony. 780 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:07,360 And it does say that like God intervened and people believed her. 781 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:14,960 Instead of these two warring people groups fighting as one went through town, they believed 782 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:15,960 her. 783 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:21,640 And Jesus, when he came, she preached alongside the disciples. 784 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:27,280 And now instead of her story being, you've had five husbands and the man you're with 785 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:32,760 now is not your husband, instead of that story, and I hope we can redeem her in a way because 786 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:39,140 that's so much to focus when you hear this in church services, instead of that, her story 787 00:40:39,140 --> 00:40:40,600 is preaching. 788 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:44,740 I met the Messiah. 789 00:40:44,740 --> 00:40:47,320 And I'm going to tell the world about it. 790 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:51,240 And the world is going to remember that forever. 791 00:40:51,240 --> 00:40:56,120 She went and she preached the gospel to all of her people. 792 00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,780 And we don't know what happens to her after that. 793 00:40:58,780 --> 00:41:00,840 Did she keep preaching the gospel? 794 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,480 Did she get married for a sixth time? 795 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,280 Or seventh or eighth. 796 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:07,280 We don't know. 797 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:08,400 We don't know the rest of her story. 798 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:20,840 But we know in this moment, Jesus found her so valuable that he chose her to tell the 799 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:25,600 most important truth ever in the history of anything. 800 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:36,400 Some could say, our one true calling as men and women to share, preach and teach the gospel. 801 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:42,440 I read a really interesting piece one time and I'm trying to remember how I wrote it. 802 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:48,680 I want to say it was like Beth Helles and Bart, but I'm not sure enough to say that 803 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:49,680 for sure. 804 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:57,080 But I read an article and she had a seminar at a conference and it was about sharing your 805 00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:58,080 faith. 806 00:41:58,080 --> 00:41:59,600 It wasn't even necessarily about preaching. 807 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,360 It was about sharing your faith. 808 00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:07,160 And it was at the same time as a cookie making seminar. 809 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:08,160 It was Beth. 810 00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:09,160 It's in her book. 811 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:10,160 Was it Beth? 812 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,760 It was like a women's retreat and there was different classes. 813 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:17,880 And there was one for sharing the gospel or whatever, sharing your story, and there was 814 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:19,560 one for cookie making. 815 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,640 And they put them at the same time. 816 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:24,400 And so her seminar was so poorly attended. 817 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:31,200 There were very few people there to hear about sharing the word of God. 818 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,160 Because most of them wanted to go bake cookies. 819 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:34,920 And look, I love cookies. 820 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:35,920 Don't get me wrong. 821 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,720 I'll eat a whole plate full of cookies. 822 00:42:38,720 --> 00:42:41,000 Love a cookie. 823 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,000 I would prefer someone else make them for me. 824 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,000 But I love a cookie. 825 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:46,560 Although I love cookie dough. 826 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,180 Oh, cookie dough is great. 827 00:42:48,180 --> 00:42:55,120 We have frozen cookie dough balls at work and then we bake them for people like fresh 828 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,880 baked cookies when you come to the dentist office. 829 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,520 That's really a good selling point for us. 830 00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:07,520 But sometimes we break into the freezer and just eat the cookie dough. 831 00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:08,520 That sounds like a good time to me. 832 00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:09,520 It is a good time. 833 00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:10,520 Back to Beth. 834 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,480 Back to Beth and cookies. 835 00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:19,520 She had a woman come up to her and say, I'm sorry I didn't come to your lecture. 836 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,160 I would have. 837 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:28,600 But really, my main calling is to nurture my family. 838 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:32,960 I don't need to worry about ministering to other people, other women, other whatever. 839 00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:34,280 Now that's not a direct quote. 840 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:35,280 It's in her book. 841 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:36,280 I highly recommend. 842 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,960 Yeah, The Making of Biblical Womanhood. 843 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:40,840 So you can read all about that. 844 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,800 Definitely give that a listen or read it. 845 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:44,800 Whichever you prefer. 846 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,880 Grab the book by the butt and read it. 847 00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:52,120 But I think that's the attitude of a lot of women in Christian circles because we've been 848 00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:56,160 told our whole lives, your highest calling is your family. 849 00:43:56,160 --> 00:44:05,040 So you don't really develop as much of a desire to go out and teach and preach God's word. 850 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:10,880 But I think what's important to understand is that gives me so much anxiety to think, 851 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,560 oh my true calling is to share the word of God. 852 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,400 But I think you just have to pray about it. 853 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:23,360 I think you have to say, God, if you want me to share your good news, give me an opportunity 854 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:27,000 and put those words in my head because they're not coming out my mouth from my head. 855 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:32,640 But I think it's also important to remember that God knows who you are. 856 00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:36,960 So it's like you and I right now, I wouldn't think I'm fulfilling my greatest calling, 857 00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:38,760 but look what we're doing. 858 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,560 We're sharing the word of God from the comfort of my bedroom. 859 00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:43,160 It's a little hot. 860 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,960 It's not that comfortable. 861 00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:51,600 I remember in vacation Bible school when we were little, they gave you little ribbons 862 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,560 and awards and whatever. 863 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:54,560 I loved those ribbons. 864 00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:55,560 I did too. 865 00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:57,160 I loved those ribbons. 866 00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,000 And I would get all of them because I would memorize. 867 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:00,400 I was like the good student, right? 868 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:01,840 So I memorized all the verses. 869 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:09,080 I did all the things, but there was one and it was like, invite a friend. 870 00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:13,260 And that gave me, I was, I couldn't have been more than eight. 871 00:45:13,260 --> 00:45:19,760 That gave me a level of anxiety I cannot describe to you because I am an introverted introvert 872 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:21,760 who introverts, okay? 873 00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:25,720 That should go on his shirt. 874 00:45:25,720 --> 00:45:27,360 We could have so much merch. 875 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:28,360 Piss, piss, piss. 876 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:29,360 Piss, piss, piss. 877 00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:30,360 I've always said that. 878 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:31,360 Introverted, introverted, who introverts? 879 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:32,360 I love it. 880 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:39,160 I have a shirt that has introvert embroidered on it, but I really am like that is who I 881 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:40,160 am as a person. 882 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:44,400 I don't like going out and initiating chats with people. 883 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,680 I just, I can't. 884 00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:53,240 And even growing up as people are like, share your testimony, share God's word, share whatever. 885 00:45:53,240 --> 00:45:55,880 I'm like, no thank you. 886 00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:57,480 I don't want to do that. 887 00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,400 But God made me who I am. 888 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,720 God made me an introvert and he didn't make me wrong. 889 00:46:03,720 --> 00:46:04,720 No. 890 00:46:04,720 --> 00:46:05,720 He didn't make him. 891 00:46:05,720 --> 00:46:06,720 Well. 892 00:46:06,720 --> 00:46:08,440 Shut up. 893 00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:12,840 I think a lot of times in the church extroverted people are really raised up and like, look 894 00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:13,840 at them, they're amazing. 895 00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:17,560 And they are amazing, but so are introverted people. 896 00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:18,560 People are amazing. 897 00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:19,560 Period. 898 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:20,560 No buts. 899 00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:21,560 Yeah. 900 00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,520 God made introverted people. 901 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:29,600 And in that, what I never expected was that God would give me an outlet to share his word 902 00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,080 here. 903 00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:36,640 She's pointing at the computer. 904 00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,060 Here on this podcast. 905 00:46:39,060 --> 00:46:47,240 I just think it's really cool that when you feel like you don't have a purpose anymore, 906 00:46:47,240 --> 00:46:52,440 when you feel like your tragedies are too much or your personality is too much or whatever 907 00:46:52,440 --> 00:47:02,600 it happens to be, that God has so much for you that Jesus would come up to you and reveal 908 00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,520 to you the first time that he was the son of God. 909 00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:11,840 And it's going to be shaped uniquely for you and all of the attributes that you possess. 910 00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,200 It doesn't matter if you're extroverted or introverted. 911 00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,880 It doesn't matter if you're short or tall or if you've been married five times. 912 00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:18,880 No. 913 00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:21,920 If you've been not married at all, God is going to find your purpose and he's going 914 00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:25,820 to shape it around all those little unique things about you individually that he knows 915 00:47:25,820 --> 00:47:26,820 about you. 916 00:47:26,820 --> 00:47:32,280 He knows every hair on your head or the lack thereof. 917 00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:38,480 And I think it's important to remember that not just he knows it, he made you. 918 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:43,400 Like a potter with a lump of clay. 919 00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,800 I did a lot of ceramics and not a lot came out of that. 920 00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,120 I know. 921 00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:53,560 I used to imagine, because I have super curly hair and I've said that before, but when I 922 00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:57,780 was a kid, for some reason, this image was always in my head that when God was making 923 00:47:57,780 --> 00:48:02,480 me up in heaven, like I imagined little tiny toddler me, I don't know why I was a toddler 924 00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:04,200 instead of a baby, but I was a toddler. 925 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,040 And you didn't know where babies came from. 926 00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:07,520 Nope, did not. 927 00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:13,180 I imagined that God took each piece of my hair around his finger and twisted it around 928 00:48:13,180 --> 00:48:14,440 and that's why it was curly. 929 00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,120 That is so sweet. 930 00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:17,120 I really do. 931 00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:18,120 Oh my gosh. 932 00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:24,320 You know, I wanted to die young, so I would be young in heaven because I thought it would 933 00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:30,720 be more fun than being old with like bad knees. 934 00:48:30,720 --> 00:48:33,720 Our stories are very different. 935 00:48:33,720 --> 00:48:39,240 We need to go to bed. 936 00:48:39,240 --> 00:48:40,240 Time to sit. 937 00:48:40,240 --> 00:48:41,240 Okay. 938 00:48:41,240 --> 00:48:48,080 Because that was kind of my image in my head as a kid and that was me feeling God's love 939 00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:51,080 very deeply as just a little kid. 940 00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:54,320 So I hope that you can think of yourself like that. 941 00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:59,840 Whatever type of image you want to use that God created every aspect of you. 942 00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:05,000 He created your physical being, but also emotionally who you are. 943 00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:06,000 Your soul. 944 00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:07,000 Yeah. 945 00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:14,360 I think in an episode recently, any flaws that you may see in yourself, God created. 946 00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:21,080 God put them in there knowing that you would be exactly who you are and still having, not 947 00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:26,240 in spite of it, but because of it, having all these plans for you. 948 00:49:26,240 --> 00:49:29,600 Maybe we should be a little bit kinder to ourselves. 949 00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:35,560 When you look in the mirror, say, God made me special and he loves me very much. 950 00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:41,600 Oh, but really I think we spend so much of our lives worrying, especially women, worrying 951 00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:48,040 about all of the flaws that we see in ourselves rather than being like, I'm beautiful and 952 00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:53,180 I'm kind and I'm moderately smart. 953 00:49:53,180 --> 00:49:58,660 And people see that as being vain, conceited, but it's not. 954 00:49:58,660 --> 00:50:00,760 If you're beautiful, you got to show it off. 955 00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:04,680 God never said, put yourself down. 956 00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,280 He never said be less than I made you. 957 00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,720 You'd be putting God down, really. 958 00:50:09,720 --> 00:50:10,960 God made you smart. 959 00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:12,280 God made you beautiful. 960 00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:16,520 God put you in the position you're in, in the place you're in, in the community you're 961 00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:18,400 in, all for a purpose. 962 00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,000 And that's so easy to preach it. 963 00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:21,600 It's so much harder to live it. 964 00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:22,600 For sure. 965 00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:23,600 For sure. 966 00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:28,400 Because I'm saying these things and I, in the back of my mind, I'm like, I'm nearly 967 00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,760 years old and I've done nothing. 968 00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,180 I think we can all look at our lives like that. 969 00:50:34,180 --> 00:50:38,240 When you look at, they say this about social media, when you look at everyone else's highlight 970 00:50:38,240 --> 00:50:41,400 reel versus your worst moments. 971 00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:42,400 Yes. 972 00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:43,400 So true. 973 00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,440 Everybody has totally different paths. 974 00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,280 And we're going to talk about that a little bit in some other episodes. 975 00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,840 Brie's doing one, actually it'll come out before this. 976 00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:51,840 Done one. 977 00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:56,380 Brie just did one on singleness in the church and next week I'll do one on being married 978 00:50:56,380 --> 00:50:57,880 in the church. 979 00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:03,440 I think it's so funny when we call it singleness because it's so ingrained in my head that 980 00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:04,760 that's a dirty word. 981 00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:05,760 That's a sad, sad word. 982 00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:06,760 But it's so not. 983 00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:07,760 But it's not. 984 00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:09,920 Actually, it's very freeing. 985 00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:12,920 And I hope that, like I haven't recorded that episode yet. 986 00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:14,520 I hope I had good things to say. 987 00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:16,720 I'm sure you did. 988 00:51:16,720 --> 00:51:18,960 I'm sure you were inspirational and they all loved it. 989 00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:20,640 Honestly, I'm sure I was. 990 00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:24,000 I'm sure I cracked a joke and picked every good song. 991 00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,200 Every good song. 992 00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:27,200 Several by Beyonce. 993 00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:31,120 All right, so I'm going to wrap this up because if we don't, I'm going to have a heat stroke 994 00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:32,120 and die. 995 00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:35,120 You'll be young in heaven. 996 00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:36,120 Great. 997 00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:37,120 Not that young. 998 00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:38,120 You're right. 999 00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:39,120 Not that young. 1000 00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:45,000 So we've been every week challenging ourselves to see if we can expand our listener base 1001 00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:50,440 a little bit and asking you guys to share with someone in a specific place. 1002 00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:54,560 So Brie has a specific place that she would like to share this week. 1003 00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:55,560 Nebraska. 1004 00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:56,560 The moon. 1005 00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,560 Where else could I say? 1006 00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:01,560 Brie, pick one place. 1007 00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:02,560 Spain. 1008 00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:03,560 Spain! 1009 00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:08,840 I've always loved you, Spain! 1010 00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:12,760 So if anyone knows anyone in Spain, not the moon. 1011 00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:14,760 We assume you don't know anyone on the moon. 1012 00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:19,920 But if you know anyone in Spain, please do share it with them and share it with anybody 1013 00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:27,620 that you think would enjoy our craziness and our laughter and wants just a moment of utter 1014 00:52:27,620 --> 00:52:29,500 insanity in their lives. 1015 00:52:29,500 --> 00:52:30,500 Go ahead and share it with them. 1016 00:52:30,500 --> 00:52:31,500 What are you trying to say? 1017 00:52:31,500 --> 00:52:32,500 Have you listened to these episodes? 1018 00:52:32,500 --> 00:52:37,500 Have you ever been wanting to hang out with two fun sisters? 1019 00:52:37,500 --> 00:52:40,000 We should have a promo video. 1020 00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:41,000 Oh no. 1021 00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:44,680 Did you just wish you were one of the girls? 1022 00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:45,680 Listen to the podcast. 1023 00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:46,680 That was a great promo. 1024 00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:47,680 Thank you. 1025 00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:48,680 We can't even manage to film real TikToks. 1026 00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:49,680 No, I really struggle. 1027 00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:50,680 Okay. 1028 00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:51,680 So like, comment, share. 1029 00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:52,680 And peace and blessings. 1030 00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:53,680 We love you. 1031 00:52:53,680 --> 00:53:11,600 Goodbye.