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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun in

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<v Speaker 1>practical ways. Hey, everybody, welcome to the Bible Guys.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Chris Kyle.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Kyle and today we're the Bible Guys because

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff's out of town. So Kyle is a favorite, a

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<v Speaker 1>fan favorite of you know. It's it's I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>how they rank.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know either.

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<v Speaker 1>It's probably probably Chris and Jeff. Yeah, definitely, It's definitely

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<v Speaker 1>christ and Jeff, and then probably and.

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<v Speaker 3>Then probably Quinn because that one time got on there,

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<v Speaker 3>that one time you like Quinn on there.

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<v Speaker 2>He still doesn't let that down, by the.

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<v Speaker 1>Way, it's so funny. Yeah, and by the way, for

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<v Speaker 1>our listeners, I h Quinn. I said, hey, is this

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<v Speaker 1>the first time you get on the Guys? He goes,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been on twice before you.

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<v Speaker 2>This is my third time. It was good.

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<v Speaker 3>It's terrible you're greeting it was It was funny because

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<v Speaker 3>you were so genuinely like thinking it was you were

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<v Speaker 3>greeting the first time.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, terrible. Anyway, we have a great story happening

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<v Speaker 1>with Nehemiah and Nehemiah is we're about to see that

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<v Speaker 1>he's about to approach the king and he's going to

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<v Speaker 1>ask him whether or not he has permission to go

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<v Speaker 1>back to Jerusalem and build the wall. And it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be an incredible journey. But before we get into that,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a segment, and the segment is the Babylon Bee.

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<v Speaker 1>Because we are committed to the finest news. Have you

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<v Speaker 1>ever heard Jeff say that? Yes, he he's insistent about

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<v Speaker 1>saying it. He goes, we are just committed to your

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<v Speaker 1>listeners to bringing the best source of news. And of

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<v Speaker 1>course Babylon Bee's a satire. And here's how this one reads.

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<v Speaker 1>It says, oh no, Phil Robertson greeted in Heaven by

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<v Speaker 1>twelve million angry ducks, which is hilarious the Duck Dynasty guy. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so it says it's Look, it starts off with location

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<v Speaker 1>Heaven Church elder and Duck Dynasty star Phil Robertson came

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<v Speaker 1>face to face with consequences this after he caught up

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<v Speaker 1>to Paradise. After he was caught to Paradise where twelve

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<v Speaker 1>million angry ducks awaited him, Robertson the Christian founder of

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<v Speaker 1>duck commander, a store specializing in gear for it, says,

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<v Speaker 1>the store specializing in gear for duck murder was found

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<v Speaker 1>dead following a battle with Alzheimer's disease at the age

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<v Speaker 1>of seventy nine. In his life, he had allegedly murdered

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<v Speaker 1>millions of ducks. Oh, my goodness, have mercy. I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just a harmless hobby, Robertson reported, and yelled

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<v Speaker 1>as he ran from a great ducks that s rolled

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<v Speaker 1>all around him. Don't hold against me. You're delicious and

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<v Speaker 1>fun to shoes, so funny. We are not so merciful, commander,

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<v Speaker 1>said John Mallard. A duck gifted with tongues. Ducks attack. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is ridiculous. According to witnesses, a mighty flock of

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<v Speaker 1>ducks appeared like a seat of locusts and descended upon him,

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<v Speaker 1>just as Paul the Apostle was beginning the orientation tour,

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<v Speaker 1>and he chased away his own mansion. He chased away. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>he was chased away to his own mansion and forced

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<v Speaker 1>to barricade himself indoors as ducks circled overhead.

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<v Speaker 2>We can do this.

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<v Speaker 1>All day, Commander Mallard. Quacky ducks don't get tired in heaven.

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<v Speaker 1>The dramatic event was witnessed by former American Presidents Abraham

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<v Speaker 1>Lincoln and James A. Garfield. At publishing time, Phil Robertson

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<v Speaker 1>had arrived at the wedding feast of the Lamb with

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<v Speaker 1>enough duck duck al lrange for everyone. Oh my goodness, gracious,

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<v Speaker 1>that is ridiculous. By the way, why did they say

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<v Speaker 1>former American Presidents Abraham Lincoln and James Dark hunters? Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>Dan if Jeff was here, he would have told them.

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<v Speaker 1>He would totally.

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<v Speaker 2>You would have been like, the duck unders has to

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<v Speaker 2>be a connection.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that is so.

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<v Speaker 2>Glad. That got you too.

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<v Speaker 1>He's in his story specializing indur for Dug murder. It

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<v Speaker 1>is so funny. That's great.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's good. Rest in peace, Phil Robertson.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no kidding. And I've never once seen an episode Doug, so.

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<v Speaker 3>I know that, Like since the show has come on,

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<v Speaker 3>it's definitely been like a It was a cult classic

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<v Speaker 3>for sure, and then a lot of their their family

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<v Speaker 3>members members have done like spin offs. Sadie Robertson is

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<v Speaker 3>actually like an influencer if you have teenage girls or

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<v Speaker 3>I guess twenty something girls. That's a great person for

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<v Speaker 3>them to follow. She's she's pretty solid.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I don't know. It's really sad, sad story,

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<v Speaker 2>but I love that met by twelve million ducks. That's Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever gone hunting?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Once?

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<v Speaker 1>And what did you hunt? It was?

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<v Speaker 2>It was going deer hunting a long time ago. It

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<v Speaker 2>was I just it's not for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, sitting still?

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<v Speaker 3>Nope, Well yeah I didn't hit anything, but yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>my impatience got to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so what what What did you not like about it?

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<v Speaker 1>Because it's sitting it's probably the same.

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<v Speaker 2>Thing sitting still.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the patie, it's the way. I just it was

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<v Speaker 3>just a lot of it. And I think if I

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<v Speaker 3>what have like, that's the thing people like, go duck hunting.

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<v Speaker 3>They said it's a lot of fun. Pheasant hunting. Apparently

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<v Speaker 3>it's a lot of fun. Okay, But when it comes

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<v Speaker 3>to sitting in a tree stand and enjoying the scenery,

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<v Speaker 3>I think I could do that for about an hour.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, it was a while ago, and I remember

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<v Speaker 3>just being a little bit bored with it.

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<v Speaker 2>How about you?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well I've never been hunting, but people describe it

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<v Speaker 1>to me like it's heaven. And like, for instance, like

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff as we as most of us know, Jeff's a hunter, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, I'm grateful for hunters. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>anti hunter. I'm very glad. I love my hamburgers and

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<v Speaker 1>steaks right, well, not steaks, I mean that's that's pretty

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<v Speaker 1>hamburgers and steaks are pretty easy to kill, right, But

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<v Speaker 1>but like you know, I'm thankful for everything else, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm grateful for all that. However, I want to say this,

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<v Speaker 1>when people describe it to me like heaven, I literally

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<v Speaker 1>think to myself, I can't imagine a more miserable existence.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, dude, man, I was sitting in the tree

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<v Speaker 1>for like eight hours. I was just looking at the

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<v Speaker 1>woods and I was sitting in the little and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>you mean that little red cherry that you have, that

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<v Speaker 1>that fastens against the tree. Yeah, yeah, that one. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>you sat in that for eight hours. It's crazy, like

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<v Speaker 1>like that would be uncomfortable for one hour. Yeah yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let alone. It's like it wasn't like forty degrees out,

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<v Speaker 1>oh yeah, man, it was great.

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<v Speaker 2>It's freezing cold.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, you just dress up warm, you know, And

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<v Speaker 1>it was great, and then the duck hunting, even like

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<v Speaker 1>you're wading through the you know, the muck and the mire.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's just I think even a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of movement would be would do well.

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<v Speaker 3>But I would also say too, Jeff, he wouldn't enjoy

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<v Speaker 3>sitting on a golf course, you know, playing golf right

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<v Speaker 3>most of the day.

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<v Speaker 2>I know he does golf from Timetown, but it's not

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<v Speaker 2>his heaven, right.

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<v Speaker 3>But for me, you know that to him sometimes of

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<v Speaker 3>going to a golf thing, he's like, oh, I guess

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<v Speaker 3>I will.

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<v Speaker 2>He will if it's a social thing.

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<v Speaker 3>But to me, that's more My speed is going and

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<v Speaker 3>doing something where you actually have to you know, it's

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<v Speaker 3>just a little bit of variety. Even on a golf

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<v Speaker 3>course where things are going slow, that's that That is

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<v Speaker 3>like hell on Earth to me is sitting and waiting

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<v Speaker 3>super long. But that's also I probably need to work

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<v Speaker 3>on patients. Sounds like we both probably do.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, well we're probably wired that way because

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<v Speaker 1>because golf is golf, what would be something I would

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy for yes, four to five hours.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it allows you to, Yeah, you have to move

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<v Speaker 2>along a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's not a super fast paced event, but

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<v Speaker 3>definitely more so than hunting.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. For all the hunters out there, and especially all

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<v Speaker 1>of our listeners in my city and surrounding regions, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for what you do. And I love Venison, and

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for what you do.

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<v Speaker 3>Yet and I hope you enjoyed that story about the

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<v Speaker 3>ducks fwollow million angry.

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<v Speaker 1>Gosh, it's so funny. All right. Well, hey, we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to move on to Neamiah chapter two for our listeners.

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<v Speaker 1>Neemaiyah is a cup bearer to the king, and he

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<v Speaker 1>was moved when he had heard that his people were

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<v Speaker 1>defenseless back in his hometown. And so he is about

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<v Speaker 1>to approach the king and ask him to quit his job. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>a very comfy, favorable job by the way of prominence,

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<v Speaker 1>all right.

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<v Speaker 3>Neemiah chapter two says this early the following spring, in

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<v Speaker 3>the month of Nissan, during the twentieth year of King

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<v Speaker 3>Arctic Service's reign, I was serving the king as wine.

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<v Speaker 3>I never before appeared sad and presence. So the king

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<v Speaker 3>asked me, why are you looking so sad. You don't

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<v Speaker 3>look sick to me. You must be deeply troubled. Then

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<v Speaker 3>I was terrified but I replied, long live the King.

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<v Speaker 3>How can I not be sad? For the city where

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<v Speaker 3>my ancestors are buried is in ruins and the gates

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<v Speaker 3>have been destroyed by fire. The King asked, well, how

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<v Speaker 3>can I help you with a prayer to the God

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<v Speaker 3>of heaven. I replied, if it please, if it yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>if it please the King, and if you are pleased

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<v Speaker 3>with me your servants, send me to Judah to rebuild

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<v Speaker 3>the city where my ancestors are buried. The King, with

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<v Speaker 3>the Queen sitting beside him, asked, how long will you

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<v Speaker 3>him how long I would be gone, the King agreed

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<v Speaker 3>to my request. I also said to the king, if

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<v Speaker 3>it please the King, let me have letters addressed to

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<v Speaker 3>the governors of the province west of Euphrates River, instructing

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<v Speaker 3>them to let me travel safely through the territories, dressed

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<v Speaker 3>to through the territories, I'm a way to Judah, and

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<v Speaker 3>please give me a letter addressed to Asaff the manager

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<v Speaker 3>of the King's forest, and directing him to give me timber.

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<v Speaker 3>I will need it to make beams for the gates

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<v Speaker 3>of the temple fortress for the city walls and for

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<v Speaker 3>a house for myself, and the King granted these requests

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<v Speaker 3>because the gracious hand of God was on me. When

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<v Speaker 3>the Euphrates River, I delivered the King's letters to them.

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<v Speaker 3>The King, I should add, had sent along army officers

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<v Speaker 3>and horsemen to protect me. But when san Balat and

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<v Speaker 3>Hahrnit and Tobiah, the Ammonite official, heard of my arrival,

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<v Speaker 3>they were veried, displeased that someone had come to help

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<v Speaker 3>the people of Israel ont Verse eleven. So I arrived

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<v Speaker 3>in Jerusalem three days later. I slipped out during the night,

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<v Speaker 3>taking only a few others with me. I had not

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<v Speaker 3>told anyone about the plans God to put my heart

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<v Speaker 3>for Jerusalem. We took no pack animals with us except

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<v Speaker 3>But now I said to them, you know very well

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<v Speaker 3>Of Jerusalem and end this disgrace. Then I told them

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<v Speaker 3>servants will start rebuild in this wall. But you have

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<v Speaker 1>of the different gates of the old Jerusalem walls, and uh, man,

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<v Speaker 1>that back in that day, cities would just conquer cities

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<v Speaker 1>tribes would conquer tribes. I mean, case in point, the Babylonians, right,

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<v Speaker 1>other people, right, and and so so that was obviously

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<v Speaker 1>city completely in ruins. And so yeah, sure, thanks King

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<v Speaker 1>Cyrus for letting all the Jews go back to Jerusalem.

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<v Speaker 1>But but but you know, I fear for my people.

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<v Speaker 1>That was the Amiah's big thing. I fear for them.

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<v Speaker 1>And so and again I love I love his vision

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<v Speaker 1>because because what does he say. He says, how can

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<v Speaker 1>city of my ancestors, right, So he's just I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he's he's such a big thinker. It's it's a great thing.

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<v Speaker 3>approaches the king. Because it says that he had never

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<v Speaker 3>appeared sad in his presence.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is somebody who.

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<v Speaker 3>Whether he sounds he said, I've never appeared sad, never

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<v Speaker 3>it's not didn't say I've never been sad in his present,

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<v Speaker 3>never appeared sad. So he definitely knew how to turn

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<v Speaker 3>it on, turn it off, and also, you know, look

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<v Speaker 3>the part because, like you mentioned in a previous episode, Chris,

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<v Speaker 3>there's probably a little bit of fear he had, well,

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<v Speaker 3>there's probably a lot of fear that he had of

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<v Speaker 3>the king, of the position, of the king's power, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>even the queen's power. And so he's going there and

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<v Speaker 3>it says he was terrified, and then he responds by saying,

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<v Speaker 3>long live the King. And then he just kind of

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<v Speaker 3>broke down and was honest there when the king said

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<v Speaker 3>what can I help you with? I love that The

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<v Speaker 3>king just says, well, how can I help you? Like

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<v Speaker 3>that was the king's response, probably not at all what

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<v Speaker 3>he was expecting, yeah, to say, how can I help you?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, there's a couple of things about what

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<v Speaker 1>you just said. When it says then I was terrified,

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<v Speaker 1>it makes me believe that he didn't intend on looking sad. No, Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like because it seems like maybe in his

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<v Speaker 1>mind he was probably thinking, hey, I'm gonna approach the king,

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<v Speaker 1>but all of a sudden he was caught off guard

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<v Speaker 1>by this premature conversation because the king said, why do

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<v Speaker 1>you look sad? He says, then I was terrified, So

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if that's what it means, or it could

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<v Speaker 1>just mean that he planned it. Like you said, he

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, it's like the reality kicked it.

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<v Speaker 1>He kicked in like here comes.

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<v Speaker 2>But I love it.

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<v Speaker 3>And it was mentioned again in the last episode. But

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<v Speaker 3>about his prayer life, it's interesting how before when they

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<v Speaker 3>when the King asked him, well, how can I help you,

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<v Speaker 3>it wasn't like he came up with and well, he

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<v Speaker 3>of cool. We can get to that a little bit,

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<v Speaker 3>how he actually had already planned out the house how

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<v Speaker 3>much Like that's kind of sweet. And that's what's awesome

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<v Speaker 3>about about Neami. He's definitely a strategic leader. But I

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<v Speaker 3>like how it'd start off by saying with a prayer

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<v Speaker 3>to the God of Heaven. It's like he's just like,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just this idea that like he's in a wisconstant

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<v Speaker 3>state of prayer. It wasn't like, we know, we're pretty confident.

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<v Speaker 3>He didn't stop say let me pray before I ask him.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just this state. And I think everybody listenings

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<v Speaker 3>can relate to a time or maybe you had to

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<v Speaker 3>something where you know you have to ask for something,

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<v Speaker 3>or there's a little bit of fear of trepidation about

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<v Speaker 3>what's upcoming. And how often do we just think, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to make sure that I'm strategic. I want

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<v Speaker 2>to make sure that an argument is.

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<v Speaker 3>Correct, as opposed to saying I'm gonna pray first, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's very important. And then I like too how the

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<v Speaker 3>beside him, asked how long a you be gone?

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<v Speaker 2>And when we return?

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<v Speaker 3>I want to just believe that this was exactly how

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<v Speaker 3>the king was just like, okay, how long you be gone?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if that's exactly how I responded, but

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<v Speaker 3>it also is a cool indication of the mindset of

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<v Speaker 3>is a very important position. It wasn't something that he

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you would think you would think that a king's

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<v Speaker 1>reaction would be literally the opposite of everything that our

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<v Speaker 1>would ever care?

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<v Speaker 3>That?

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<v Speaker 1>Was cup bear looks at yes, right, who cares? He's

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<v Speaker 1>a cupbear? Right, It's like, it's like, who cares? Why

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<v Speaker 1>would a king even pay attention to that? And the

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<v Speaker 1>answer is because our desert sees obviously was a caring person.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you know there's probably a second answer to that.

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<v Speaker 1>And the second answer to that is obviously Nehemiah was

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<v Speaker 3>school A lot of the characters in the same time frame,

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<v Speaker 1>uh efficient, dynamic, performing because after all, everything they touched

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<v Speaker 1>prospered and they had the favor of God. And so

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<v Speaker 1>those who were above them in Daniel's case, with Sharick,

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<v Speaker 1>Meshek and Bendio and Daniel, they continued to promote them

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<v Speaker 1>know what that there's a sermon in there somewhere, and

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<v Speaker 1>that is I remember one time hearing one of my

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<v Speaker 1>favorite speakers as Andy Stanley. I remember hearing him one time,

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<v Speaker 1>That that there, that there could be. So in other words,

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<v Speaker 1>every boss should say, man, is that person a Christian?

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<v Speaker 1>I want to hire that person? And somebody'd say, why,

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<v Speaker 1>WELLY may not necessarily be a Christian, but I want

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<v Speaker 1>to hire a Christian because Christians are always on time,

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<v Speaker 1>they're always loyal, they're always kind, they're always you know, faithful,

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<v Speaker 1>that is a big testimony. I remember when I was

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<v Speaker 1>or if somebody was not worthy of respect, we would

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<v Speaker 1>we would not react to that person kindly. Right, we

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<v Speaker 1>I apologize if that sounds offensive to anybody in my

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<v Speaker 1>family who is listening. But the reality of it is,

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<v Speaker 1>even the whole west side Youngstown, I'm not sure, but anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>should be different, and I remember reading and I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's in Ephesians, right, that actually says we don't serve

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<v Speaker 1>our bosses for our boss's sake. We serve our bosses

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<v Speaker 1>like we're serving Christ, right, and therefore God will be

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<v Speaker 1>honored because we serve the boss, our employer, because of Christ.

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<v Speaker 1>If you think about it, it's like, what like, even

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<v Speaker 1>is it doesn't treat me well. Well, isn't that the

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<v Speaker 1>nature of the Gospel. The nature of the Gospel says,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we should, you know, heap coals of fire

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<v Speaker 1>in someone's head. In humility, not returning anger for anger.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know we should, we should constantly forgive and

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<v Speaker 1>that's a massive sermon in there somewhere, Christians. Let's check ourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's be the best example where we are, even if

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<v Speaker 3>Ye and Neemiah is somebody who is his influence and

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<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of things that could have happened. But

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<v Speaker 3>instead he had earned the favor of the king. And

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<v Speaker 3>when I was reading this, it actually a story that

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<v Speaker 3>came to my mind as I was looking at this,

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<v Speaker 3>because I think that the king's response was so important

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<v Speaker 3>here because I believe that the God actually gave favor

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<v Speaker 3>to Neemayah, and and Neamiyah previously prayed to have favor in.

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<v Speaker 2>The King's eyes and the king granted it to him.

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<v Speaker 3>Made me think there was a time a few years

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<v Speaker 3>ago she had somebody who was interning for me in

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<v Speaker 3>a role and she was awesome, like superstar intern. When

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<v Speaker 3>it got time to like the new year, we wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to hire her on the staff, and I remember she'd

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<v Speaker 3>spent a few months like kicking, but it was gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be awesome. Had this perfect role planned out for her.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I presented with the idea of her working

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<v Speaker 3>on this team in this role, and she said, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna pray about it and think about it. I'll

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<v Speaker 3>get back to you and.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be honest.

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<v Speaker 3>I was kind of surprised because I feel like it

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<v Speaker 3>was such a slam dunk thing that I was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>of course, go pray about it. She comes back and

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<v Speaker 3>she said, I've been praying about it. You'd be surprised

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<v Speaker 3>because I'm gonna say no for now, and here's why.

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<v Speaker 3>And what it was was that her heart broke for

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<v Speaker 3>the job she currently had as well, like before that

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<v Speaker 3>where she was making some headway and sharing her faith

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<v Speaker 3>with some of her lost unsaved coworkers, she was making

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<v Speaker 3>a ton of headway, she was sharing her faith and

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<v Speaker 3>was going great, and she said, I'm not ready to

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<v Speaker 3>say yes to this job right now because I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like it would be a bad example to my coworkers

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<v Speaker 3>who have like put so much trust and hope and

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<v Speaker 3>faith in me, and I'm still trying to lead them

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<v Speaker 3>to Jesus.

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<v Speaker 2>Now what do I say in that situation?

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<v Speaker 3>Right, I'm like, I'm like, in a way, I'm like, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's very noble of you. In a way,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, that's where your heart is breaking. I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>going to stop what God is doing your heart crazy enough?

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<v Speaker 3>Is this is wild? We just started our Stony Creek

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<v Speaker 3>in Rochester Hills campus eight months ago. One of the

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<v Speaker 3>people that she was trying to reach for Jesus comes

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<v Speaker 3>every single week. I think he's missed one week. He

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<v Speaker 3>makes a joke about it. He's only missed one week.

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<v Speaker 3>He recently told me he accepted Christ for the like

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<v Speaker 3>for the first time, and he's getting baptized in August,

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<v Speaker 3>like very excited about it. Now, this is a person

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<v Speaker 3>who he doesn't know this. He doesn't listen to this podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe maybe he will. But years ago she made the

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<v Speaker 3>decision to stick with that job because her heart broke

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<v Speaker 3>for someone like him, and now he can't.

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<v Speaker 2>He has come to know Jesus.

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<v Speaker 3>And so it was really just this cool moment where

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<v Speaker 3>I began to realize that there's so much going on

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<v Speaker 3>behind the scenes that oftentimes when somebody wants to be

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<v Speaker 3>released from something or that maybe God is moving them

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<v Speaker 3>in a certain way, it's really easy to want to

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<v Speaker 3>stay in our comfort, right, It's really easy for us

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<v Speaker 3>want to like make our plans and of course our

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<v Speaker 3>you know, sometimes your emotions or feelings get hurt. But

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<v Speaker 3>in that moment, I remember just being like, I'm just

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<v Speaker 3>going to trust whatever God has said to you, kind

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<v Speaker 3>of like with this king, I mean the king, he

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<v Speaker 3>clearly was like, Okay, what do you need?

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<v Speaker 2>How are we going to make this happen?

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<v Speaker 3>And I think it was because God had already softened

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<v Speaker 3>his heart to what Neamiah was about to ask.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, that's great, And and it's also a reminder

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<v Speaker 1>that God is orchestrating all things everywhere. Right, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>master plan. There's a you know in neami is a

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<v Speaker 1>great example last chapter where he said he said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you predicted that this would be true if

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<v Speaker 1>your people return to you, that we would come back

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<v Speaker 1>after the exile, And so he has this massive picture

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, what it means to you know, look

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<v Speaker 1>through the generations and and here you are. You had

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<v Speaker 1>enough sense in that moment to say, Okay, well God's

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<v Speaker 1>obviously up to something you didn't know what. And now

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<v Speaker 1>you're able to look back over how many years ago?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that three?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>A long time.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a good amount of time to be sure through

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<v Speaker 3>planting those seeds.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then and then all of a sudden, three

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<v Speaker 1>years ago you look back and say, oh, God, God

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<v Speaker 1>obviously had her there for a reason, right, And who knows,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe she was instrumental in his life where you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he was the one that you know, she

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<v Speaker 1>was the one that got used primarily to uh, to

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<v Speaker 1>push him that way. And so yeah, entire families could

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<v Speaker 1>be changed because of that one decision, yes, which is amazing. Well, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>that looks like a great place to end. And Nehemiah

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<v Speaker 1>is going to start the task next chapter and hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>we'll have you join us on the Bible guys, see

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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow