1 00:00:01,380 --> 00:00:04,173 Morgan Franklin: It feels like every other person this week on 2 00:00:04,235 --> 00:00:08,084 TikTok and LinkedIn, I cannot get away from people saying that 3 00:00:08,146 --> 00:00:11,932 October is the new first of the year reset. And basically, if 4 00:00:11,995 --> 00:00:15,967 you don't start your resolutions now for January of 2025 you are 5 00:00:16,030 --> 00:00:19,692 not gonna be successful, and you have to start right now in 6 00:00:19,754 --> 00:00:23,230 October. And if I'm being honest, it's kind of stressful 7 00:00:23,292 --> 00:00:27,265 also, and I've always felt this way, don't wait for a month or a 8 00:00:27,327 --> 00:00:30,804 date or a new week to do what you know you want to start 9 00:00:30,866 --> 00:00:34,714 today. That's the biggest lesson in all of this for all of us, 10 00:00:34,777 --> 00:00:38,749 you don't have to wait for what you want. And that being said, I 11 00:00:38,812 --> 00:00:42,164 have a kind of love hate relationship with resolutions 12 00:00:42,226 --> 00:00:45,702 and very strict like self improvement regimens, but I do 13 00:00:45,764 --> 00:00:49,427 love planning and strategy and honestly, riding the wave of 14 00:00:49,489 --> 00:00:53,275 everyone being there would unto best self at the beginning of 15 00:00:53,337 --> 00:00:57,186 the year. No surprise here I am already working on q1 for 2025 16 00:00:57,248 --> 00:01:01,097 and I wanted to share a few of the things that I'm starting to 17 00:01:01,159 --> 00:01:04,821 work on as a podcaster and a producer and a strategist, and 18 00:01:04,884 --> 00:01:08,856 three things I'm starting now to grow my podcast in 2025 so that 19 00:01:08,919 --> 00:01:12,519 hopefully it can help you grow your podcast too. Hello and 20 00:01:12,581 --> 00:01:16,430 welcome to podcast for profit. My name is Morgan Franklin. I'm 21 00:01:16,492 --> 00:01:20,341 a Podcast Producer, strategist and educator. This podcast will 22 00:01:20,403 --> 00:01:23,879 help you create and grow a podcast that cuts through the 23 00:01:23,941 --> 00:01:27,417 noise of social media and speaks directly to your target 24 00:01:27,479 --> 00:01:31,266 audience. If you're ready to create a podcast that will align 25 00:01:31,328 --> 00:01:35,115 you with the experts in your industry, position yourself as a 26 00:01:35,177 --> 00:01:38,591 trusted leader and create another source of revenue for 27 00:01:38,653 --> 00:01:42,378 your business, you're in the right place. Okay, so the first 28 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,978 thing that I'm doing to grow my podcast in 2025 that I've 29 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,889 already started working on, and if I'm being real with you, is 30 00:01:49,951 --> 00:01:53,676 probably the least fun. And the thing that makes me the most 31 00:01:53,738 --> 00:01:57,586 uncomfortable is filming short form straight to camera videos. 32 00:01:57,648 --> 00:02:01,125 So this is the kind of video that you'd see on Tiktok or 33 00:02:01,187 --> 00:02:05,035 YouTube shorts or reels where I'm just talking about a podcast 34 00:02:05,098 --> 00:02:08,946 episode or something related to podcasting, or something about 35 00:02:09,008 --> 00:02:12,360 me. I do think that these informal, straight to camera 36 00:02:12,423 --> 00:02:16,271 videos that are kind of like a monolog, like you're FaceTiming 37 00:02:16,333 --> 00:02:20,058 a friend. These are the most impactful pieces of content you 38 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,969 can create right now. It feels real, it feels personal, and it 39 00:02:24,031 --> 00:02:28,066 feels like it's genuinely coming from you, and that's what I love 40 00:02:28,128 --> 00:02:31,728 about it. And as someone that wants to curate every single 41 00:02:31,790 --> 00:02:34,770 inch of my social media presence, this is really 42 00:02:34,832 --> 00:02:38,867 difficult for me, and I've heard from many other people that it's 43 00:02:38,929 --> 00:02:42,716 very difficult for you too. It feels very vulnerable, but the 44 00:02:42,778 --> 00:02:46,627 numbers are there, and that is what matters. People don't want 45 00:02:46,689 --> 00:02:50,662 a highly produced, professional, polished graphic designer. They 46 00:02:50,724 --> 00:02:54,138 want to feel like they're talking to you. Another thing 47 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:58,173 that I'm shifting my operations on in the social media realm for 48 00:02:58,235 --> 00:03:01,835 the upcoming year is the way that I promote episodes. This 49 00:03:01,897 --> 00:03:05,498 might kind of seem like an insignificant change to some of 50 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:09,098 you, but I think it makes a really big difference, and we 51 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:12,512 have to stop pretending like having a new episode is a 52 00:03:12,574 --> 00:03:16,361 novelty or a reason to listen. We do this all the time, and I 53 00:03:16,423 --> 00:03:20,210 see this every week, and I know that you do too every week, I 54 00:03:20,272 --> 00:03:24,307 see someone out here posting the same three graphics that they've 55 00:03:24,369 --> 00:03:28,218 been using for two years as a new episode. Or listen to my new 56 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:32,253 episode here with special guest XYZ. And I hate to tell you, but 57 00:03:32,315 --> 00:03:36,101 no one cares. No one cares if you have a new episode. If it's 58 00:03:36,163 --> 00:03:39,826 the day of the week that you should have a new episode, you 59 00:03:39,888 --> 00:03:43,799 should have a new episode. This is not news, and I am so guilty 60 00:03:43,861 --> 00:03:47,648 for this. For years, I have been so guilty of this because we 61 00:03:47,710 --> 00:03:51,620 think people should care, right? We put so much time and energy 62 00:03:51,683 --> 00:03:55,407 into this new episode, and we're really proud of it. We want 63 00:03:55,469 --> 00:03:59,132 other people to hear it, but that is not going to make them 64 00:03:59,194 --> 00:04:03,105 listen. That is not enough. This is what's going to get them to 65 00:04:03,167 --> 00:04:06,953 listen, piquing their interest, showing them the highlight or 66 00:04:07,015 --> 00:04:10,554 the part of something that you're talking about that they 67 00:04:10,616 --> 00:04:14,589 might want to hear more of, and then telling them where they can 68 00:04:14,651 --> 00:04:18,562 listen to more. Here's a quick example. So earlier this week, I 69 00:04:18,624 --> 00:04:22,038 was on Tiktok, and I saw these podcasters talking about 70 00:04:22,100 --> 00:04:25,638 Halloween costumes. I love Halloween, so of course, I was 71 00:04:25,700 --> 00:04:29,239 in immediately. They were talking about the costumes that 72 00:04:29,301 --> 00:04:33,025 we need to retire in 2024 and not just retire, but like when 73 00:04:33,087 --> 00:04:36,998 they would be cool again. And I thought that that that was just 74 00:04:37,060 --> 00:04:40,723 such an interesting concept. But the snippet that they were 75 00:04:40,785 --> 00:04:44,509 talking about was they were saying that three hole punch gym 76 00:04:44,572 --> 00:04:47,800 from the office, a very notoriously lazy costume, is 77 00:04:47,862 --> 00:04:51,772 out. But if you give it five to 10 years for this generation of 78 00:04:51,834 --> 00:04:55,559 kids who think that millennial stuff is kind of lame, if you 79 00:04:55,621 --> 00:04:59,470 give those kids time to age out of picking the things that are 80 00:04:59,532 --> 00:05:03,132 cool. In about five to 10 years, it'll be cool and kind of 81 00:05:03,194 --> 00:05:07,043 hipster again, to be three hole punch gym and as an office fan 82 00:05:07,105 --> 00:05:10,706 and as a millennial, and as a millennial that can find the 83 00:05:10,768 --> 00:05:14,182 humor in making fun of millennial stuff. I thought that 84 00:05:14,244 --> 00:05:17,720 this was really funny, and so, you know, I found them, I 85 00:05:17,782 --> 00:05:21,259 followed them, I found the podcast and I listened to it. 86 00:05:21,321 --> 00:05:24,921 And the lesson to take away from this is that they weren't 87 00:05:24,983 --> 00:05:28,956 advertising that they had a new episode that wasn't the focus of 88 00:05:29,018 --> 00:05:32,681 this. They were showing people that small part of what they 89 00:05:32,743 --> 00:05:36,529 could expect and then leading them to the podcast. Oh, and by 90 00:05:36,591 --> 00:05:40,502 the way, if you want to listen to this podcast, it is so funny. 91 00:05:40,564 --> 00:05:44,413 It is called pals. That's P, a, l, s. The hosts are hilarious, 92 00:05:44,475 --> 00:05:48,200 and I'm so glad that I found that podcast. I do want to note 93 00:05:48,262 --> 00:05:52,297 that they have a video component of their podcast, but you do not 94 00:05:52,359 --> 00:05:55,835 have to have a video component of your podcast to create 95 00:05:55,897 --> 00:05:59,684 interest in this way with short form content. Literally, just 96 00:05:59,746 --> 00:06:03,471 get on your phone and start recording a video where you talk 97 00:06:03,533 --> 00:06:07,257 about the episode. Because, you know, I can make a video for 98 00:06:07,319 --> 00:06:11,292 this episode so easily. My hook would probably just be something 99 00:06:11,354 --> 00:06:14,582 like this. Is why I'm not waiting until January 1 to 100 00:06:14,644 --> 00:06:18,245 implement my 2025, podcast marketing strategy, and this is 101 00:06:18,307 --> 00:06:22,342 what I'm already doing. And then listen to the full episode here. 102 00:06:22,404 --> 00:06:26,004 Perfect, perfect video. That's all I need. Short and sweet 103 00:06:26,066 --> 00:06:29,667 tells me what to expect, gives me a little taste, tells me 104 00:06:29,729 --> 00:06:33,640 where to go. The easiest content that I'll make all month, I've 105 00:06:33,702 --> 00:06:37,550 said it before and I'll say it again. You don't have to have a 106 00:06:37,612 --> 00:06:41,585 video component of your podcast. You don't have to be filming it 107 00:06:41,647 --> 00:06:45,434 every single time you make a podcast to have short form video 108 00:06:45,496 --> 00:06:49,034 content. The next thing is YouTube. And yes, like so many 109 00:06:49,097 --> 00:06:52,635 of us, I have been really avoiding YouTube, not because I 110 00:06:52,697 --> 00:06:56,422 don't like it, or think it's great, or think that it's great 111 00:06:56,484 --> 00:07:00,146 for podcasters, it's because I don't want to do it, I don't 112 00:07:00,208 --> 00:07:03,933 want to do another thing on another platform, but YouTube is 113 00:07:03,995 --> 00:07:07,533 the fastest growing podcast platform. So what's a girl to 114 00:07:07,595 --> 00:07:11,382 do? Here's my plan for YouTube for the first half of 2025 and 115 00:07:11,444 --> 00:07:14,982 I'm not even gonna guess what the second half is gonna be 116 00:07:15,044 --> 00:07:18,521 like, because we could all be living on Mars by then. So 117 00:07:18,583 --> 00:07:22,432 here's the plan, I'm gonna keep posting my podcast episodes on 118 00:07:22,494 --> 00:07:26,342 YouTube. I do that already. I just take the audio, I put it in 119 00:07:26,404 --> 00:07:30,191 Canva, I make a graphic, and then I upload the podcast with a 120 00:07:30,253 --> 00:07:33,605 static image to YouTube. However, my goal is to make a 121 00:07:33,667 --> 00:07:37,082 very casual video to go on YouTube every week, probably 122 00:07:37,144 --> 00:07:40,930 just filmed on my laptop with loom, where I'm talking about a 123 00:07:40,992 --> 00:07:44,841 podcast or how to do something with editing or AI or something 124 00:07:44,903 --> 00:07:48,504 informational and probably educational, and uploading that 125 00:07:48,566 --> 00:07:52,414 every week to help drive traffic to my page, so that hopefully 126 00:07:52,476 --> 00:07:56,201 people will start following me, and then when my episodes do 127 00:07:56,263 --> 00:08:00,236 air, it will pop up because they follow Me. And eventually, yes, 128 00:08:00,298 --> 00:08:04,147 I do want to do more on YouTube, and especially to make higher 129 00:08:04,209 --> 00:08:08,058 quality content, but I just want to do what makes sense for me 130 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:12,093 how much time I have, and I know already I'm pretty strapped for 131 00:08:12,155 --> 00:08:16,003 time, and I encourage you to do that too. Think about what you 132 00:08:16,065 --> 00:08:19,418 can do in the time that you have, instead of stressing 133 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,894 yourself out and burning yourself out and then ended up 134 00:08:22,956 --> 00:08:26,805 not doing anything, because I know this stuff adds up, but you 135 00:08:26,867 --> 00:08:30,778 have to figure out where it can fit into your own content plan. 136 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:34,688 And the last thing under social media for the start of 2025 to 137 00:08:34,750 --> 00:08:38,227 grow my podcast. And wow, this has been a lot already is 138 00:08:38,289 --> 00:08:42,200 working on hosting live events on LinkedIn. Now, this might not 139 00:08:42,262 --> 00:08:46,172 be exactly right for your niche or podcast, but for mine, since 140 00:08:46,235 --> 00:08:49,711 it's mostly podcasters and business owners. This makes a 141 00:08:49,773 --> 00:08:53,497 lot of sense for me, but I want to involve some kind of live 142 00:08:53,560 --> 00:08:56,974 component into my podcast advertising, and I think that 143 00:08:57,036 --> 00:09:00,698 this would be a good way to do it. If you're someone that's 144 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:04,175 already using webinars or LinkedIn lives or any kind of 145 00:09:04,237 --> 00:09:07,589 live event to promote your podcast or business, please 146 00:09:07,651 --> 00:09:11,562 reach out to me. I would love to hear how it works for you. And 147 00:09:11,624 --> 00:09:15,224 if you're open to sharing any information with me, I would 148 00:09:15,286 --> 00:09:19,011 love it. And of course, I will share it here on the podcast. 149 00:09:19,073 --> 00:09:22,487 Okay, so now that we have the social media prong of the 150 00:09:22,549 --> 00:09:25,963 approach, now I want to talk about in person events. In 151 00:09:26,025 --> 00:09:29,998 person events are a major pillar of my 2025 marketing effort for 152 00:09:30,060 --> 00:09:33,599 my podcast. And you know, it might not be in the way that 153 00:09:33,661 --> 00:09:37,510 you're thinking, and if you're thinking, I don't want to go to 154 00:09:37,572 --> 00:09:41,482 a podcast conference, that's not really what I'm talking about. 155 00:09:41,545 --> 00:09:45,517 Well, I am very excited to go to podcast conferences, and I will 156 00:09:45,579 --> 00:09:49,428 be announcing a few that I will be going to and speaking at in 157 00:09:49,490 --> 00:09:52,656 2025 very soon, I think that there are just as many 158 00:09:52,718 --> 00:09:56,691 opportunities to make meaningful connections and spread the word 159 00:09:56,753 --> 00:09:59,981 about your podcast where you are, and whether that's 160 00:10:00,043 --> 00:10:03,644 literally where you live, or the industry you're in or the 161 00:10:03,706 --> 00:10:07,244 community of people that are around you, I think the best 162 00:10:07,306 --> 00:10:10,658 first step is always to grow where you are and this is 163 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:14,321 something that I have been majorly slacking on, especially 164 00:10:14,383 --> 00:10:18,356 the past six months. I normally go to so many local and industry 165 00:10:18,418 --> 00:10:22,080 events, and I've been a little bit off my game just because 166 00:10:22,142 --> 00:10:25,867 I've been busy, but I'm making plans to go to more in person 167 00:10:25,929 --> 00:10:29,592 events and meet people in real life in 2025 I truly believe 168 00:10:29,654 --> 00:10:33,564 nothing grows your podcast like going out there and getting out 169 00:10:33,627 --> 00:10:37,413 of your comfort zone and meeting people face to face. I am so 170 00:10:37,475 --> 00:10:40,827 lucky that I live in the Nashville area, where we have 171 00:10:40,889 --> 00:10:44,242 multiple artist organizations and a community just for 172 00:10:44,304 --> 00:10:47,780 podcasters. And if you live in the Nashville area or the 173 00:10:47,842 --> 00:10:51,629 surrounding area, I hope that you look up Nash pod. So that's 174 00:10:51,691 --> 00:10:55,602 N A S H pod. It's seriously the nicest, most welcoming group of 175 00:10:55,664 --> 00:10:59,574 people, and of course, I'm there too. In that same vein, I want 176 00:10:59,636 --> 00:11:03,175 to focus on meeting people in the industry and talking to 177 00:11:03,237 --> 00:11:07,148 people who do the same thing as me. This is really intimidating 178 00:11:07,210 --> 00:11:11,121 to me, and I think it probably is to a lot of other people too, 179 00:11:11,183 --> 00:11:15,093 in this industry. I still feel really new and like I don't know 180 00:11:15,156 --> 00:11:18,756 where I belong, and I want to be friends with other people 181 00:11:18,818 --> 00:11:22,232 working in the podcasting industry without them feeling 182 00:11:22,294 --> 00:11:25,771 like I'm trying to take advantage of their experience or 183 00:11:25,833 --> 00:11:29,495 knowledge. So it's a gentle balance, and one that I'm still 184 00:11:29,557 --> 00:11:33,406 trying to figure out. And that being said, I want to encourage 185 00:11:33,468 --> 00:11:36,882 you, no matter what industry you're in, to try and make 186 00:11:36,944 --> 00:11:40,421 friends with people who do the same thing as you or work 187 00:11:40,483 --> 00:11:44,331 alongside you. And I know that that can be hard. I know it can 188 00:11:44,393 --> 00:11:47,994 be scary, especially when it's your competition, but think 189 00:11:48,056 --> 00:11:52,029 about how much you guys have in common. Think about how much you 190 00:11:52,091 --> 00:11:55,505 could help each other. Think about how they're probably 191 00:11:55,567 --> 00:11:59,292 feeling the exact same way as you. There is more than enough 192 00:11:59,354 --> 00:12:02,954 money and opportunities and clients for everyone. So focus 193 00:12:03,016 --> 00:12:06,741 on what you can give to your industry and how you can impact 194 00:12:06,803 --> 00:12:10,528 the people around you, and I promise that everything else is 195 00:12:10,590 --> 00:12:14,190 going to fall into place. The last thing that I'm doing to 196 00:12:14,252 --> 00:12:17,915 grow my podcast in 2025 is learning more about and properly 197 00:12:17,977 --> 00:12:21,329 implementing AI. If you've listened to any of my other 198 00:12:21,391 --> 00:12:25,302 episodes where I talk about AI or chatgpt, you know, I have one 199 00:12:25,364 --> 00:12:28,716 theory about the future of artificial intelligence. Ai 200 00:12:28,778 --> 00:12:32,627 won't replace us people who use AI will. I'm a big believer in 201 00:12:32,689 --> 00:12:36,724 putting things into the universe and claiming what is yours. So I 202 00:12:36,786 --> 00:12:40,200 do want to share that I'm currently creating a workable 203 00:12:40,262 --> 00:12:44,111 model for an AI app that's just for podcasters, and podcasting 204 00:12:44,173 --> 00:12:47,773 there will be free and paid portions of this app, but I am 205 00:12:47,835 --> 00:12:51,684 so excited, and also me creating this app wouldn't be possible 206 00:12:51,746 --> 00:12:55,347 without AI two years ago, this would have been impossible. 207 00:12:55,409 --> 00:12:58,947 Because, yes, I do have two programmers to kind of bounce 208 00:12:59,009 --> 00:13:02,610 ideas off of, but most of the mock ups and the things that 209 00:13:02,672 --> 00:13:06,210 I've been doing in this stage are all completely possible 210 00:13:06,272 --> 00:13:10,059 because of AI, and that's just insane. I use AI at every part 211 00:13:10,121 --> 00:13:13,721 of my podcasting journey, pre production, production, post 212 00:13:13,783 --> 00:13:17,260 production and promotion, content, writing, advertising, 213 00:13:17,322 --> 00:13:21,108 you name it. I probably use AI for it, and it doesn't replace 214 00:13:21,170 --> 00:13:24,585 my creativity. If you're listening and you're thinking, 215 00:13:24,647 --> 00:13:28,433 oh well, I've tried chatgpt And it sucks. I get that it isn't 216 00:13:28,495 --> 00:13:32,344 going to do the work for you. It's going to help you get about 217 00:13:32,406 --> 00:13:36,069 70% of the way there or do the things that you don't really 218 00:13:36,131 --> 00:13:39,731 want to do. For example, now, instead of trying to take my 219 00:13:39,793 --> 00:13:43,642 transcripts and painstakingly make them a blog post from every 220 00:13:43,704 --> 00:13:47,553 episode. I can ask chat and GPT, Hey, break this down from the 221 00:13:47,615 --> 00:13:51,588 transcript and get me 70% of the way there, and then from there, 222 00:13:51,650 --> 00:13:55,561 I can make it consumable for a human, and that is the part that 223 00:13:55,623 --> 00:13:59,534 really matters. But a few things that I know that I am starting 224 00:13:59,596 --> 00:14:03,506 to implement AI into my workflow for podcasting in 2025 booking 225 00:14:03,569 --> 00:14:06,796 guests, following up with guests, because that takes 226 00:14:06,859 --> 00:14:10,459 forever, collecting guest recommendations, following up to 227 00:14:10,521 --> 00:14:14,494 share episode informations after an episode goes live, outlining 228 00:14:14,556 --> 00:14:18,467 episodes, researching questions and topics that people have for 229 00:14:18,529 --> 00:14:22,067 episodes and specific audience segments, understanding my 230 00:14:22,129 --> 00:14:25,792 listener data and honing into that information to know what 231 00:14:25,854 --> 00:14:29,641 people actually want to hear, because I don't know about you, 232 00:14:29,703 --> 00:14:33,303 like I try to compare episodes, I try to compare retention 233 00:14:33,365 --> 00:14:37,214 rates, but as far as me digging into that information, it is a 234 00:14:37,276 --> 00:14:40,504 little bit hard and intimidating, but with the right 235 00:14:40,566 --> 00:14:44,166 AI prompts and tools, you can take your analytics and say, 236 00:14:44,228 --> 00:14:47,953 Hey, what do people actually like to hear? And isn't that so 237 00:14:48,015 --> 00:14:51,864 powerful? Isn't that what you actually want to know? There are 238 00:14:51,926 --> 00:14:55,837 truly endless ways to use AI and to make the podcasting process 239 00:14:55,899 --> 00:14:59,313 easier. And if you haven't downloaded my four most used 240 00:14:59,375 --> 00:15:03,410 chat GPT prompts you need to the download is free, and of course, 241 00:15:03,472 --> 00:15:07,321 it is compatible with the free version of chat GPT, so even if 242 00:15:07,383 --> 00:15:11,418 you just want to try it out, you can absolutely do that. I'm also 243 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:15,018 going to link my store in the episode description. I just 244 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:18,557 released a new Instagram template pack, and I am in love 245 00:15:18,619 --> 00:15:22,467 with it. I think that it is so cute, and I love it. I have all 246 00:15:22,530 --> 00:15:26,378 kinds of different resources to make your life easier, to grow 247 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:29,792 and promote your podcast. I'd love to hear how you are 248 00:15:29,855 --> 00:15:33,331 planning to promote your podcast in 2025 send me a DM on 249 00:15:33,393 --> 00:15:36,745 Instagram. It's at Morgan Franklin media, or add me on 250 00:15:36,807 --> 00:15:40,221 LinkedIn. I'll have both of those linked in the episode 251 00:15:40,283 --> 00:15:43,884 description, and as always, I can't wait to listen to your 252 00:15:43,946 --> 00:15:47,857 podcast. Hey, thank you so much for joining me on this episode. 253 00:15:47,919 --> 00:15:51,830 If you enjoyed the podcast and you'd like to hear more episodes 254 00:15:51,892 --> 00:15:55,244 like this one, go ahead and subscribe to the show. New 255 00:15:55,306 --> 00:15:58,782 episodes air every Monday morning. 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