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Well, hello all you beautiful people.

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You know what time it is.

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Ladies and gents, guys and dolls and

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everyone in between.

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Gather around. Get you something real

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nice to sip on and comfy to slip on.

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Cuz it's time for Smite Club. Here's

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your hosts, Chelsea and Hannah.

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[Music]

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[Laughter]

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Hey everybody and welcome to Smut Club.

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I'm Hannah and I'm Chelsea and this is

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the show where we're two licensed mental

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health therapists who sometimes daydrink

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and sometimes don't while reviewing

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romance novels of varying caliber.

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Wow.

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[ __ ] nailed that. You really did.

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That was smooth as [ __ ] I know. I was

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like, honestly towards the end I was

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like, "Oh [ __ ] Oh [ __ ] Am I about to

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lay down?"

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No, you just did. What? Did you see that

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guy who was flirting with Simone Biles

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while she was like judging him? Yeah. He

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wore a uniard that said IHeart Simone on

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it. And then he stuck the landing of his

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vault thingy and but then from standing

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when he stuck the landing he flipped and

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landed with like his arm incredible like

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horizontally and he like winked at

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Simone and she was like immediate nine.

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It was hilarious.

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I'll have to see if I can find it. Oh,

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that's fantastic. Not quite. That's how

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you landed. Thank you. I love that I

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landed that way. That's such a long

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story. No, I was thinking of um Wipeout.

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That Well, it's they renewed it within

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like the last couple years, but it's

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John Cena and Nicole Buyers. And it's

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really funny because they just do like

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the voiceover, but they're there at like

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the final challenge, right? And there

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was one where someone was like, "John, I

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love you. I love you." Like shouting to

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him. He's like, "Yeah, thanks. I love

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you so much." And Nicole's like, "I'm

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right here."

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Did you forget about me? Okay, cool.

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Good luck.

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And that's I was like, all of the other

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judges sitting at that table are like,

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I'm right here. That's pretty good. Me.

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Um, okay. That is Wow, we really

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tangented.

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Tangented. Yep. Mhm. That's a word. Mhm.

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Is not. What book are we reviewing

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today, Hannah? I should just stop before

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before I Yeah. Today. I didn't even

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finish the sentence. I should just stop

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before I And you're like, you should

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today.

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Okay, we got this.

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Reentered.

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I feel like you nailing the intro is

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like a bad omen now because we've just

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tangential and we can't we just

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tangential and we can't get off.

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Twisted Love. Twisted Love is what we're

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reviewing by Anna Hang. So fun.

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Also, I think I just I got cocky. I

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nailed the intro and I got too copy. I

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think we both did.

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So, anyway, Twisted Love. Twisted Love

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by Anna Wang, which um Twisted Love is a

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book that was gifted to me by a friend

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of mine. Shout out to Lauren. Um and she

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bedazzled the whole cover of the book,

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which I showed you before we started

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recording. You did? And it super cool.

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when you told me that you had a friend

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who' like bedazzled a book for you,

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after you bedazzled?" Cuz in my head, it

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bedazzling she did, it was like really

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lightweight. I was like, "Oh, I am here

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for this energy." Yeah. And it's a fun

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texture. My problem is I'll get too into

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it and then I'll have I'll run out of

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places to display it and at some points

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some point Vance will be like Chelsea we

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can only have so many bedazzled books

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displayed in our home

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and there could always be more. Yeah,

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we've got a decent amount of square

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footage. I see no reason why I couldn't

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keep bedazzling to my heart's content. I

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don't think you should confine yourself.

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I guess I will need to move back to

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physical copies instead of my e-reader

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in this situation. That would be the the

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main barrier. Yeah. I don't think I

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would want to bedazzle my e-reader like

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well not the front for obvious like but

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texturally that would wear on me after a

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while. Yeah. So anyway, Twisted Love.

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Twisted Love by Anna Hang. And this one

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is a series. Is this is a series, right?

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of the others. Is this the first in the

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series? This is the first in the series.

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interconnected standalones. Got it. Um

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uh I So I haven't read this series, but

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confidence I was like, "Oh, yeah. I've

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definitely read that." No, I read her

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king of envy, king of like whatever that

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one is, but I frequently get them

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confused, but I am realizing I have not

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read this one. Yeah. Yeah. I thought I

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had read it also when she gave it to me

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to look cuz I think I've read Nope. I I

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haven't. Something about this book,

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it just has one of those faces. So, but

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also I haven't read this one in a way

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that like I have read this one and yes,

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we'll we'll get there. Which I think is

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how I felt about her other series where

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read it. Yeah, I haven't read it

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physically but spiritually I definitely

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have read it. Um so we open with Ava

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review is that this book,

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extremely short and we move back and

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forth between like different events and

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different perspectives and different

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things. Kind of

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it felt clunky when I was outlining it.

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were just reading it. Yeah. You're like

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reading it. It made sense. Trying to

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explain it feels a little bumpier,

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right? So, there may be some parts that

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of barely mention. Well, the great news,

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Hannah, is you won't know. I've never

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read it. The others might. So, this

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warning isn't for you. They're not here.

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They're not. This isn't about them.

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Don't at me.

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That's I guess what I was trying to do

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with that whole explanation for how I

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felt like you're like I realize I'm

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going to be missing some pieces. Don't

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come at me for it. Yeah. I didn't think

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you wanted a 4hour review. Literally

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you're like we're long form but I will

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also say there were some moments when I

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was like what? So, if something doesn't

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make sense, please ask because maybe I

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do know, but you know, I'm I might might

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not I'm fully willing to ask. I know

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sometimes before you'd like me to. I've

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tried to get better at that. I've tried

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to stop ruining the plot twists of your

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books by guessing them. You might not

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get this one cuz it was it was a little

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it was out there. Um, so Ava, okay, is

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she's not having a good day. It's a very

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terrible day and she is stuck at a bus

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stop in the rain.

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She's late for her brother's going away

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party. It's a whole situation. So, she's

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a student. She's a photographer. So, she

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had been on a job. Mhm. And thought she

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had plenty of time and now she doesn't.

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you're saying this, my first I just

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went, "Have I read this?"

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so, um, she,

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has almost no memory of most of her

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childhood before nine. And there is

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trauma in there, okay? Like there's

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definitely trauma and she has PTSD

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around like bodies of water. So, pools,

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lakes, oceans, that kind of stuff.

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If we get to the end and you're like,

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"Oh, no. I've definitely read it. I'm

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going to fall out."

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Like, no. The body, the fear of the

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water sounds very familiar. Yeah. Yeah.

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So kind of like a because of this

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trauma, she has repressed memories and

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so she she doesn't remember anything

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before age nine, but she doesn't do well

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with with water, right? Okay. And her

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brother, older brother, is also

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extremely overprotective and they are

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like definitely trauma bonded.

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we read, you're like, and they're

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definitely I was like, "Oh, no. Where

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they're like trauma bonded." I was like,

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"Oh, okay. Still not great, but that

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could have been worse." Yep. I wasn't

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sure where that sentence was going. So,

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she calls her brother who is at his own

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going away party that she is late for.

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he is midbang and she can hear that and

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he answers. He did. I can't remember if

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she called him like back to back or or

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something, but he was basically like,

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you know,

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where are you? Why are you always like

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this going off to these photography jobs

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that nobody knows where you're going and

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like who you're with? This is unsafe.

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What? And then he's like, "Someone's on

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their way to pick you up and hangs up

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the phone and she's like, "Someone who?"

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Like, how how do I know? Who is it?

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it's his best friend. His name's Alex

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of Of course. Yeah. So, he is 26. He's

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mega rich. Definitely like How old is

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and um he has been best friends with her

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brother for eight years. They were

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roommates in college all through

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college, have stayed best friends to the

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point where Alex celebrates all major

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holidays with them because he doesn't

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really have any family. Mhm. Um but she

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has never really talked to him like they

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gorgeous. OBS.

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Um, if he was aloof and ugly, she

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wouldn't care. Yeah, she'd be like,

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"This is makes sense." Even more

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convenient. I'm good with that. Yeah.

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Um,

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so she is clearly really irritating to

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him when she gets in the car. He's like

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really short with her and like snappy,

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which is kind of his baseline apparently

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all the time. Okay. Um, but they go to

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pick up the cake for the brother's party

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and he tells her that the whole time

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they've been in the car, her shirt has

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been completely see-through and she's

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wearing like a bright red lacy bra um

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under a white shirt. And I was like,

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"Okay,

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f sure. All right." And so he's like

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livid that she would even think about

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getting out of the car when her shirt is

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see-through. and he's been staring at

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her tits this whole time like and so

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she's really embarrassed and mad. Um I

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remember when I used to work crisis and

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we had like multiple like units on our

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like property that like we would have

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patients stay at, right? And we had a

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new girl start and her shirt was real

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transparent. And I was not the one who

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had to have the conversation with her,

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but like the supervisor who did have the

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conversation with her when she laid out,

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she's like, "Do you understand like the

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safety risk that this poses

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when we like aren't mindful of these

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things?" And like the girl was like, "It

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didn't even dawn on me that like Well,

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what a bold thing to do on your first

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day at a new job to wear a see-through

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shirt."

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I mean, it might have been like the end

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of her first like it was like within the

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first maybe not the first day, but like

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still like I think it was just more of

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like I don't think she realized how

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transpar like it was one where like when

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the supervisor went to have the

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conversation, you could tell she was not

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prepared to have that conversation that

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day. She's like, I I did not see this

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coming. I did not realize what I was

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wearing was inappropriate. Oh my god,

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I'm mortified. I will never make this

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mistake. Yeah. Like just cute like baby

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angel who just like truly like didn't

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the the lights in my bathroom are

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different than the lights here. And like

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I didn't

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I had the I went to meet a friend at a

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coffee shop one day and I looked down

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and I was like my shirt is see-through.

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And she's like uh-huh. And I'm like

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[ __ ]

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She's like I thought we all knew. I'm

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like I'm wearing a cardigan. Like you

328
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didn't tell me to like close my Well,

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looks like I'm wearing a see-through

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shirt to work cuz I'm going there from

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here and I don't have time to go home

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first. Button it. Yep. Yep. I was like,

333
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"We are pivoting. Someone tell me." You

334
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know, Alex might have been a dick about

335
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it, but at least he told her. At least

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he told her. So, um, she really hates

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him, and she's just glad she doesn't

338
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have to deal with him very often. Like,

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yeah, strong hatred cuz he also, this

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takes place in

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like the northeastish area. Well, not,

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no, not really northeast. It's like DC,

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Philly

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energy. And so, um, above the Mason

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Dixon. I mean, it is northeast from

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where I currently am, so that counts,

347
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right? But we're not thinking about our

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listeners, Hannah. Where are they

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located?

350
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A lot of places. Yeah. Tag yourself.

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Tell us where you're from. And then

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think of wherever Philly and DC are in

353
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relation to that. and just like fill in

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the blanks accordingly. That if you're

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in the UK, it is southwest. Um, is it

356
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south?

357
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I was just going to go west.

358
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I don't know. I need to look at a map.

359
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We'll we'll look at a globe later and

360
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determine that. But regardless,

361
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I'm not keeping him on track here. This

362
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is This is on me yet. She doesn't have

363
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to see him. He's frequently a dick.

364
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She's what? She's thankful for the ride,

365
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but also thankful it's over, right? And

366
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um Alex doesn't even So, we switched to

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his point of view. He doesn't even want

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to be at this party, but John is his

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best friend, so he's here for the party.

370
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Whatever. So, John's not even Josh isn't

371
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even at his own party. Oh, he was. He

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was banging somebody in a a bedroom.

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Were was Was the rest of the the group

374
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in the room with them? I don't think

375
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they were all in the same room. I'm just

376
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saying this is the house party. If you

377
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left the party to go bang someone,

378
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you're not technically at the party

379
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anymore. She said he could be in the

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house and not at the house party. You're

381
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right. I apologize.

382
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So, um,

383
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uh, he is just generally agitated about

384
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everything. Um, and he's also annoyed

385
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that he keeps looking at Ava and like

386
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checking on her um, throughout all of

387
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this. Um, and he's like, "She's way too

388
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much like sunshine for me. Like, I have

389
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particular needs. Like, no face to face,

390
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no feelings, no kissing." I'm like, "Are

391
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you Julia Roberts?" But it feels like so

392
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much right now. Um,

393
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and so, um, you know, he's irritated

394
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that he finds her attractive. So then

395
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the brother comes over, Josh, and he's

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like, "Hey, I have a favor to ask. I'm

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obviously I'm gonna be in I think it's

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Central America for the next year.

399
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Please watch out for Ava." Like, I I'm

400
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not comfortable being so far away from

401
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her, blah blah blah blah blah.

402
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Meanwhile, I'm like, "Your dad

403
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supposedly lives like an hour away.

404
00:17:33,360 --> 00:17:39,840
Like, why do you Well, I was literally

405
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about to ask, do they have family? Is it

406
00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:44,720
just the two of them against the world?

407
00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:48,480
It's the two of them and their dad.

408
00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:50,320
Okay. Their mother um completed trigger

409
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warning suicide when they were children

410
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when they were like seven. Oh, okay. Um

411
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so,

412
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Alex,

413
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Josh says Alex is the only one he

414
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trusts. Her ex is harassing her. He

415
00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:05,919
knows any of his other like buddies from

416
00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,919
college would just try to [ __ ] her.

417
00:18:05,919 --> 00:18:11,039
Like, he really wants somebody to watch

418
00:18:07,919 --> 00:18:14,240
you, Alex. you won't try and [ __ ] her.

419
00:18:11,039 --> 00:18:16,400
Yeah. And then that's the other thing

420
00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:18,720
about this book is both of them have

421
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PTSD and there will just randomly be

422
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flashbacks. So this is the first one

423
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where he has a flashback about a bunch

424
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of blood and dead bodies and we get no

425
00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:31,679
other information. Um what was he former

426
00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:34,000
military? Like did I No, we don't have

427
00:18:31,679 --> 00:18:36,000
any information about like we just know

428
00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:38,080
his childhood wasn't great and he was

429
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raised by his uncle. Listen, Hannah,

430
00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:41,679
here's the thing. While some days aren't

431
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wine days, today is a wine day. Today is

432
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a wine day. And

433
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I'm not sure what questions I've already

434
00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:50,400
asked,

435
00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:51,679
which is fair. So, some I'm like, I

436
00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,840
don't know. I was like, I might have

437
00:18:51,679 --> 00:18:56,240
missed this, but I don't think I should

438
00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:58,480
interrupt to clarify.

439
00:18:56,240 --> 00:19:00,559
Please do because at this point I may

440
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think that I have already established

441
00:19:00,559 --> 00:19:07,280
something and never said it. though. Um,

442
00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:09,679
but he is like he doesn't want to agree

443
00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:11,520
to this, but he is what are you going to

444
00:19:09,679 --> 00:19:12,960
say? No. Right. That's a weird thing to

445
00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:16,559
do. It feels like when someone asks you

446
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to be their bridesmaid, right? Yes. You

447
00:19:16,559 --> 00:19:20,799
can't be like, "No, I respectfully

448
00:19:18,559 --> 00:19:23,600
decline." Right. That's when you're

449
00:19:20,799 --> 00:19:24,799
like, "Oh, no. I already had plans to be

450
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out of the country." And then you have

451
00:19:24,799 --> 00:19:28,320
to plan a trip to be out of the country

452
00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:31,120
if you really don't want to be a

453
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bridesmaid that bad.

454
00:19:31,120 --> 00:19:34,960
Sorry, that got really elaborate. That

455
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was so specific. It really was. I'm so

456
00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:42,160
sorry. Is there any specific uh story

457
00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:45,440
that we're That's all hypothetical. 100%

458
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100% hypothetical.

459
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I am not nor do I have any friends who

460
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would even think of doing something like

461
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that. Um, that is one of the things

462
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about getting older cuz I feel like in

463
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my early 20s when you'd like have

464
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friends get engaged and be like, "Oh my

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gosh, what if they don't ask me to be a

466
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bridesmaid? I thought we were closer.

467
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Like, what the heck?" And now I'm like,

468
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"Please, please don't. If you love me at

469
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all, if there's any love within your

470
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body, please don't ask this of me. I

471
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will show up. I will like support you."

472
00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:20,799
But like Mhm.

473
00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,840
Well, and that's probably not like I

474
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feel like there are some people who are

475
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super chill about it and then there are

476
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others that you're like, "Yep,

477
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this is a wild ride and this is not in

478
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my budget." Yeah. I've been bridesmaids

479
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for both of those people. The one that's

480
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like, "Hey, ma'am, whatever. Love you

481
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guys. Let's just do whatever." And the

482
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one who was like, "We are going to Key

483
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West for a weekend."

484
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Well, and also the problem is you don't

485
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always know what you're saying yes to

486
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until you've said yes and then you're

487
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like, "Oh, I thought they were in the

488
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first category." Yeah. I've

489
00:20:54,000 --> 00:21:00,000
overcommitted. Yeah. Like I didn't have

490
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5K to go to a bunch of day clubs in

491
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Miami.

492
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Nor is that how I wanted to spend 5K if

493
00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:10,720
I did have it. No. No. Okay. So, Alex

494
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doesn't want to say yes, but much like

495
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being a bridesmaid, got to say yes to

496
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it. Unless he's also planning an outof

497
00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:21,600
country trip. No, but he is planning

498
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revenge. And we don't know against whom

499
00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:27,360
or what for. But what we do know is that

500
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he is annoyed about this whole watching

501
00:21:27,360 --> 00:21:32,799
over Ava thing because he doesn't want

502
00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:34,720
it to interrupt his revenge plans. But

503
00:21:32,799 --> 00:21:38,080
then in the same breath, he's like, "But

504
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I've committed and that means I'm going

505
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to have to move to be closer to her."

506
00:21:41,919 --> 00:21:47,520
Wait, what? You get it? Like, what the

507
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:49,440
[ __ ] He's like, I don't want to do it.

508
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:53,120
It could really distract me from my true

509
00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:55,120
purpose, but I guess I'm gonna

510
00:21:53,120 --> 00:21:56,720
I haven't read it. Or maybe I have,

511
00:21:55,120 --> 00:21:58,720
right?

512
00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:01,280
But I do feel like Josh was just like

513
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giving more of like a, "Hey man, if ever

514
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my sister calls you, can you keep an eye

515
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:07,840
out for her?" maybe text once a week

516
00:22:06,159 --> 00:22:11,840
just to make sure she's alive or

517
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:14,640
something like, you know, um, thumbs up

518
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:16,799
this text for proof of life, like I

519
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:18,960
think is what Josh was looking for. Not

520
00:22:16,799 --> 00:22:21,600
like a

521
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:23,760
list your house on the market. Right.

522
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:26,320
Right. Right. She doesn't need a

523
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:28,880
full-time bodyguard. Well, especially if

524
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:31,039
it's going to interfere with capital R

525
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:34,159
revenge

526
00:22:31,039 --> 00:22:36,720
with his murder plot. Um, and it is a

527
00:22:34,159 --> 00:22:40,240
plot that we will get to. So, the day

528
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:42,720
after the party, um, Ava is helping her

529
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:46,000
brother get all of his stuff out of his

530
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:48,640
house, um, to put in storage for the

531
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:52,559
next year. He has sublet the house to

532
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:54,480
surprise Alex. He's moving in. He lives

533
00:22:52,559 --> 00:22:57,200
next door

534
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:58,720
to Ava because that's how overprotective

535
00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:01,039
Josh is.

536
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:03,200
Wait. Okay. But also the timeline of

537
00:23:01,039 --> 00:23:05,760
this, the party was the night before.

538
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:07,280
He's asked Alex the night before. So he

539
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:11,000
was leaving and didn't have a sublet

540
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:11,000
plan already in place.

541
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:17,760
Yes. I don't know. I don't think that

542
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:20,880
was ever addressed. But what I do know

543
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:24,080
is Alex is moving in next door to Ava.

544
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:27,600
Okay. Yeah. So

545
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:30,559
spiritually I have absolutely read. So,

546
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:31,840
she's super pissed um that her brother

547
00:23:30,559 --> 00:23:35,200
doesn't think she can take care of

548
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:37,280
herself and everything. Um but then a

549
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:40,159
couple of days later, Ava kind of feels

550
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:44,080
bad that she was kind of a [ __ ] to Alex

551
00:23:40,159 --> 00:23:46,000
and he didn't really do anything.

552
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,760
So, you know, she feels bad about it.

553
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:52,080
So, she makes him some cookies to be

554
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:54,240
nice and takes them over and um he's

555
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:56,960
really nice and like invites her in and

556
00:23:54,240 --> 00:24:01,520
they have kind of a nice conversation.

557
00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:04,880
Um, and they sort of have a weird bond

558
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:08,320
because he has highly highly superior

559
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:09,760
autobiographical memory,

560
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:12,080
which is that thing where people

561
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:14,480
remember every single thing of every

562
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:16,720
single day of their lives in like full

563
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:19,279
detail.

564
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:23,200
Um, for those of you who like to watch

565
00:24:19,279 --> 00:24:27,600
the show Superstore, Sandra had highly

566
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:31,200
highly superior autobiographical memory.

567
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:32,559
I forgot about that. Yeah, me too. Until

568
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:35,679
I was reading this and then I was like,

569
00:24:32,559 --> 00:24:37,600
"Oo, quite frankly, I kind of forgot

570
00:24:35,679 --> 00:24:39,679
about Sandra."

571
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:42,880
A and then as soon as you mentioned her

572
00:24:39,679 --> 00:24:48,080
the most Sandra core thing you could do.

573
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:50,799
It really I'm like that feels accurate.

574
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:52,960
I do really like her. I do. But I do

575
00:24:50,799 --> 00:24:54,320
also feel like Superstore was really

576
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,600
[ __ ] with it for like the first

577
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,120
several seasons and then I was like,

578
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:59,360
"Oo, y'all making some political

579
00:24:57,120 --> 00:25:02,880
statements that I did not need on a

580
00:24:59,360 --> 00:25:05,440
show. I was just here for the laughs."

581
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:07,840
No. Well, and I think the last couple of

582
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:09,760
seasons just weren't as funny. Yeah.

583
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,919
Like they just didn't quite hit the same

584
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:14,640
the last couple of seasons. Yeah. It's

585
00:25:11,919 --> 00:25:16,480
Well, I also I'm like, where were you

586
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,559
taking the story line? There were only

587
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:20,400
so many places you could I think we

588
00:25:18,559 --> 00:25:22,960
could have bowed out gracefully and not

589
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:25,600
made it weird. Yeah,

590
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:28,080
like season 4. Yeah, that would have

591
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:30,320
been a great time.

592
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:33,520
Anyway, I mean, if you all want our

593
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:37,600
feedback podcast, I might I might just

594
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:39,679
reach out to info peacock.com and

595
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:41,840
provide them my feedback. Dude, I'm

596
00:25:39,679 --> 00:25:43,840
going to do that

597
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:46,480
just to see what happens. Like, I want

598
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,760
to know. Are they respond? I tried to

599
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,279
reach out to him about like something

600
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,880
about their app that I was actually

601
00:25:49,279 --> 00:25:52,799
having an issue with, but apparently

602
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,159
like the account was under Vance's name

603
00:25:52,799 --> 00:25:55,679
and they're like, "Well, we can't verify

604
00:25:54,159 --> 00:25:57,760
you're an account owner, so we can't

605
00:25:55,679 --> 00:26:00,720
take your feedback." And I was like,

606
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:03,840
"This is not set up to actually do

607
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:05,600
anything. I shall move on." It's like a

608
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:07,840
requirement of the Better Business Pure

609
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,360
or some [ __ ] for them to have. I was

610
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:10,960
like, maybe if I want to spend time

611
00:26:09,360 --> 00:26:12,559
someone emailing, like if I want to

612
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:15,520
spend time emailing someone, I should

613
00:26:12,559 --> 00:26:17,520
email my representative instead of a

614
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:20,159
streaming service. Yes, exactly. I'm

615
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:22,480
like, I should maybe spend my time doing

616
00:26:20,159 --> 00:26:26,400
other things. So, they have a nice

617
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:29,200
conversation. He's right. So, he has the

618
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:31,120
superior memory and Ava can't remember

619
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:34,320
anything before age nine. And so, they

620
00:26:31,120 --> 00:26:37,279
have a little like LOL must be nice at

621
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:39,120
each other about it. Um, and it's like

622
00:26:37,279 --> 00:26:41,279
kind of a nice moment for them. And then

623
00:26:39,120 --> 00:26:42,799
Ava's like, "This is [ __ ] weird." And

624
00:26:41,279 --> 00:26:44,400
just like takes off. She's like, "Why is

625
00:26:42,799 --> 00:26:45,919
he being nice? I don't trust it." Yeah.

626
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:51,440
She's like, "This isn't our dynamic."

627
00:26:45,919 --> 00:26:55,120
Yeah. This is weird. Um, so uh, Alex is

628
00:26:51,440 --> 00:27:00,080
um at an MMA fight gym that he's been a

629
00:26:55,120 --> 00:27:01,440
member of for a long time. And um, he

630
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,600
finds out they're starting a new

631
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:05,039
self-defense class. And he's like, "Ava

632
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,279
should take that. like she should know

633
00:27:05,039 --> 00:27:09,840
how to protect herself. And so he texts

634
00:27:07,279 --> 00:27:13,039
her the information and she doesn't

635
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:16,480
answer right away and he starts to panic

636
00:27:13,039 --> 00:27:19,679
like fully and he texts her again and he

637
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:24,240
calls her and she's not answering and

638
00:27:19,679 --> 00:27:28,799
he's like livid about it. So um how much

639
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:31,919
time has passed? Like half an hour.

640
00:27:28,799 --> 00:27:35,360
And so then or an hour because then he

641
00:27:31,919 --> 00:27:38,240
goes to Ava's house um and she's not

642
00:27:35,360 --> 00:27:41,120
there but her roommate is there

643
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:43,360
and she's like Ava is with a friend like

644
00:27:41,120 --> 00:27:46,080
chill out. I know right where she is.

645
00:27:43,360 --> 00:27:49,520
She's fine. Don't worry about it. Yeah.

646
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:52,159
And um he is like I don't really give a

647
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:55,039
[ __ ] what you say until I speak to her

648
00:27:52,159 --> 00:27:57,279
and lay eyes on her. Unacceptable. And

649
00:27:55,039 --> 00:27:59,919
tells her to give him the address. And

650
00:27:57,279 --> 00:28:02,080
she's like, "No, but I'll take you there

651
00:27:59,919 --> 00:28:04,240
because I'm going to be with you because

652
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:06,880
if I had time to pop popcorn, I would."

653
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:08,480
She's like very into this. She's like,

654
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,799
"I don't know what's happening, but I

655
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:14,360
like it a lot." And this might be

656
00:28:10,799 --> 00:28:14,360
something I missed.

657
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:20,880
Is there a looming concern over Ava

658
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,320
that's like making him this? Like cuz I

659
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,440
know you mentioned like the ex-boyfriend

660
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,880
was hassling her a little bit, but I'm

661
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,720
like is that like a he's like stalking

662
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,559
her or is this like a It's like he's

663
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,880
still calling her and she's annoyed

664
00:28:28,559 --> 00:28:33,039
because he cheated on her and she's like

665
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,480
I don't know how else to tell you. I'm

666
00:28:33,039 --> 00:28:36,240
not getting back together with you and

667
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,520
he's still calling to say like let's get

668
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,640
back together. I don't think we have all

669
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:41,679
that information yet, but that's the

670
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:44,240
point. So there's no looming threat that

671
00:28:41,679 --> 00:28:46,320
was like the catalyst to all of this

672
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:48,240
that would cause someone to freak out if

673
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:51,360
they hadn't heard back within an hour.

674
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:53,840
No. But the like underlying

675
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:55,919
implication for a lot of this book is

676
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:58,880
Alex is like, "I know bad people are out

677
00:28:55,919 --> 00:29:01,200
there because I'm a bad bad man. So

678
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:04,240
something bad could happen to her and

679
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:06,799
she's my sunshine."

680
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:09,679
So that is the nickname she gets and I

681
00:29:06,799 --> 00:29:14,080
think it's on page like 20. So

682
00:29:09,679 --> 00:29:17,679
Despicable Me three, the villain was

683
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:20,240
like a 80s child star sort of energy and

684
00:29:17,679 --> 00:29:24,399
the the slogan his like tagline was like

685
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:26,960
I've been a bad boy and that's when you

686
00:29:24,399 --> 00:29:30,720
said Alex being like and there are bad

687
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:33,520
people out there cuz I'm a bad bad boy.

688
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:36,399
I know you said man. Well, I almost said

689
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:38,640
boy and then I was like

690
00:29:36,399 --> 00:29:42,320
it's too patronized. I I can't do the

691
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:44,480
alliteration today. And was like, no, I

692
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:49,120
don't know why. That was the line for

693
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:52,240
me. So, Jules takes him to where Ava is.

694
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:54,159
She is doing a budois shoot as a model

695
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,840
for a friend of hers who is in one of

696
00:29:54,159 --> 00:29:57,039
her photography classes cuz that's what

697
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,200
she's in school for. That's a

698
00:29:57,039 --> 00:30:02,399
photographer. Male or female? It is a

699
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:05,279
It's a It's a bad boy.

700
00:30:02,399 --> 00:30:08,480
It's a bad boy.

701
00:30:05,279 --> 00:30:11,360
Well, he's actually lovely. Of course he

702
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:13,360
is. Alex is a douchebag. So, Alex gets

703
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:15,440
there and he just like loses his [ __ ]

704
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:18,080
and he like snatches the camera out of

705
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:20,399
the guy's hand and like starts deleting

706
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:22,240
the photos and is like, "You delete them

707
00:30:20,399 --> 00:30:25,440
off your computer right now." And like

708
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:28,640
all this other [ __ ] And Ava is like,

709
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:31,919
"What the [ __ ] is happening?" She's like

710
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:34,399
in this like strappy lingerie situation

711
00:30:31,919 --> 00:30:36,960
and she's like, "What the [ __ ] are you

712
00:30:34,399 --> 00:30:40,320
doing?" Like,

713
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:43,279
like what is happening?

714
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:46,320
Like like and they have an audience of

715
00:30:43,279 --> 00:30:49,120
like the photographers's roommate who

716
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:53,760
also was home and there is watching and

717
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:56,720
Jules is watching and Ava is like like

718
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:59,279
Alex like like legit explain yourself.

719
00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:01,679
What are you doing, my dude? Yeah. And

720
00:30:59,279 --> 00:31:03,919
he's like, you will never photograph her

721
00:31:01,679 --> 00:31:06,320
again. Ever. Don't even ask. Don't even

722
00:31:03,919 --> 00:31:08,720
think. And he's like raging on the

723
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:10,960
inside that other men are seeing her in

724
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:13,679
this strappy lingerie. And it's like,

725
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:16,720
brev, we are going from like 6:00 to

726
00:31:13,679 --> 00:31:20,080
midnight in a way that like daylight

727
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:23,760
savings time has happened. And now 6:00

728
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:25,840
and midnight feel like different times.

729
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:28,640
Not like in the winter when it's the

730
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:30,480
same time.

731
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,320
I'm talking about spring forward

732
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:35,279
[ __ ] I'm not talking about any fall

733
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:38,640
back. I overexlained it. I was here for

734
00:31:35,279 --> 00:31:42,080
it. I was like, how deep is she going

735
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:44,320
with daylight savings time?

736
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:48,799
That was incredible.

737
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:51,840
Yeah. So, I love

738
00:31:48,799 --> 00:31:54,640
when I spiritually read books like this

739
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:57,840
and you're like, they're like, "She's so

740
00:31:54,640 --> 00:32:00,399
annoying. She's so annoying. She's so

741
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:02,159
mine." Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

742
00:32:00,399 --> 00:32:06,080
Yeah. You're like, "Wow, we really

743
00:32:02,159 --> 00:32:09,080
pivoted quickly." Yes.

744
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,080
So,

745
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:14,240
a few days later, all right, Alex gets

746
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:17,120
her home.

747
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:19,760
She has not spoken to him.

748
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:22,720
She's livid, right? I mean, she's super

749
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:24,880
pissed. And so, she's hanging out with

750
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,880
her best friend and roommate, the

751
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:29,120
popcorn one, and a couple of her other

752
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:31,039
friends. Jules feels like a a supporting

753
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:33,840
character. We like we do. And I think

754
00:32:31,039 --> 00:32:37,039
she gets a book later. Hell yeah. Um but

755
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:39,919
um they decide to orchestrate what they

756
00:32:37,039 --> 00:32:42,480
call operation emotion because none of

757
00:32:39,919 --> 00:32:45,120
them have ever seen Alex emote before

758
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:47,200
until he went and like raged at the

759
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:49,039
photographer. Right. And they're like, I

760
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:51,519
thought he was a robot this whole time

761
00:32:49,039 --> 00:32:54,880
and suddenly he's a screaming robot. A

762
00:32:51,519 --> 00:32:58,000
raging robot. Oo. Again, we love

763
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:59,600
alliteration. So

764
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:02,240
Jules is like, if you can't make him

765
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:04,880
angry, what else can you make him? let's

766
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:09,279
make a list.

767
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:10,880
And so, um, she feels bad that they're

768
00:33:09,279 --> 00:33:13,200
kind of like making fun of him a little

769
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:15,679
bit, but she's also like, I am a little

770
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:20,320
bit curious, though, so I think I am

771
00:33:15,679 --> 00:33:23,919
going to do it. So, that night, she

772
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:26,159
winds up waking up from a nightmare um

773
00:33:23,919 --> 00:33:29,360
that she was drowning in a lake and she

774
00:33:26,159 --> 00:33:33,519
was crying for her mom. And that's all

775
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:36,320
we get is that. It's pretty dark. Um,

776
00:33:33,519 --> 00:33:39,200
and then we cut to Alex who is also

777
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:42,320
remembering his past and it's his

778
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:46,320
parents and younger sister were

779
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:49,120
murdered. Um, and so he was raised by

780
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:51,519
his uncle and has been like on a revenge

781
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:55,120
mission since he was 12. His family died

782
00:33:51,519 --> 00:33:56,960
when he was 10. And so,

783
00:33:55,120 --> 00:34:00,240
um,

784
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:05,279
basically every night because of his,

785
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:09,200
uh, memory, he will intentionally relive

786
00:34:05,279 --> 00:34:13,520
the traumatic event to like

787
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:16,960
maintain his rage. And he even talks

788
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:18,960
about like that he he was forced into

789
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,879
therapy when he was a teenager and stuff

790
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,639
because of everything that he had seen,

791
00:34:20,879 --> 00:34:24,720
but it never worked because none of the

792
00:34:22,639 --> 00:34:27,760
therapists seem to understand that like

793
00:34:24,720 --> 00:34:29,679
he wanted to be miserable. Like that's

794
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:35,399
in the book. Like he wanted to be

795
00:34:29,679 --> 00:34:35,399
miserable and so the therapy didn't help

796
00:34:35,599 --> 00:34:43,440
which Okay. So he has a personality

797
00:34:38,879 --> 00:34:44,879
disorder. Yeah. Yeah. Mhm. He sure does.

798
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:49,679
Like Lexapa Pro ain't touching this

799
00:34:44,879 --> 00:34:54,320
[ __ ] No, we're going to need Geodon and

800
00:34:49,679 --> 00:34:57,599
some other stuff. But anyway, um B52 him

801
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:59,680
every day.

802
00:34:57,599 --> 00:35:01,440
Well, I was thinking a mood stabilizer

803
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:03,359
and I was like, well, Geodon's a mood

804
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:06,160
stabilizer. It does some other stuff.

805
00:35:03,359 --> 00:35:09,040
But I was going to say Geodon's not like

806
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:14,839
the lowhanging fruit.

807
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:14,839
is the one that came into my brain. Oh,

808
00:35:15,119 --> 00:35:18,119
lamed.

809
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:25,200
Oh, I'm not just going to name

810
00:35:20,720 --> 00:35:26,960
pharmaceuticals. Okay, so um Ava decides

811
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:32,320
that first she's going to see if she can

812
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:35,359
make Alex sad. So, she takes a walk to

813
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:38,880
remember and Marley and me over to his

814
00:35:35,359 --> 00:35:41,680
house and some cookies.

815
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:46,160
and and some cookies. He's on his way

816
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:50,880
out for a date when she goes to um to

817
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:52,320
see him. And uh she tells him that she

818
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:55,119
was worried that he was going to be

819
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:58,400
lonely because he moved out of the city.

820
00:35:55,119 --> 00:36:00,400
Um but since he's got a date, obviously

821
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:03,040
he's fine. She's so sorry for

822
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:05,359
interrupting and he's like just come in

823
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:09,520
and cancels his date and they have a

824
00:36:05,359 --> 00:36:12,240
movie night. Um,

825
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:14,720
and my notes say they watch Mandy Moore

826
00:36:12,240 --> 00:36:17,720
slowly die of cancer and Alex has no

827
00:36:14,720 --> 00:36:17,720
response.

828
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:25,280
So

829
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:27,520
Ava makes a joke about him being a robot

830
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:29,680
and like pretends to be looking for like

831
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:32,880
a control panel on his back and is like

832
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:35,520
touching him and he loses his [ __ ] and

833
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:37,599
like does not appreciate that she was

834
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:41,200
touching him and somehow she winds up in

835
00:36:37,599 --> 00:36:45,599
his laugh or his laugh his lap.

836
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:48,400
um and basically telling her for some

837
00:36:45,599 --> 00:36:52,960
reason that she's a naive little [ __ ]

838
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:55,520
basically and like why is she so dumb?

839
00:36:52,960 --> 00:37:01,040
And oh yeah, here's the nickname

840
00:36:55,520 --> 00:37:04,160
arrives. We're 25% in sunshine. Um

841
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:05,839
25% in further than I expected. Yeah.

842
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:08,000
Yeah. He's been thinking it this whole

843
00:37:05,839 --> 00:37:09,680
time, but he's finally said it out loud.

844
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,280
Um,

845
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:15,040
so

846
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:18,880
I do feel like anytime I see a book that

847
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:23,040
is labeled as a grumpy sunshine romance

848
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:25,680
Yeah. the nickname is sunshine. Yeah.

849
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:29,680
That is the lowhanging fruit. Yeah. It's

850
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:31,839
just right there. Um, but somehow they

851
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:34,400
wind up laughing together a little bit

852
00:37:31,839 --> 00:37:36,000
and it's it's bizarre. So then they just

853
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:38,079
go on because I'm like if somebody calls

854
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:42,839
me a naive [ __ ] while I'm straddling

855
00:37:38,079 --> 00:37:42,839
their heart on I'm not gonna be like

856
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:51,839
like the silliest things. Such a silly

857
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:54,320
goose. So you're a bad boy. Jesus. So

858
00:37:51,839 --> 00:37:56,960
Ava falls asleep during the second

859
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:59,119
movie. Ava decides to put during Marley

860
00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:01,760
and Me. Yeah. She fell asleep during

861
00:37:59,119 --> 00:38:03,839
Marley and Me, which is one of those

862
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:08,880
movies I would turn off before the end,

863
00:38:03,839 --> 00:38:11,200
personally. So, yeah, not a loss there.

864
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:15,200
And also, quite frankly, if you just

865
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:18,320
made me watch A Walk to Remember,

866
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:21,599
I'm not saying yes to Marley and me

867
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:24,880
next. Yeah. Yeah. Um, same there. That's

868
00:38:21,599 --> 00:38:26,640
a quidd pro. Like, I mean, there was no

869
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:28,560
quid. She wasn't really offering

870
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:32,240
anything except her presents and I think

871
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:34,480
some cookies. So yeah, I mean I was more

872
00:38:32,240 --> 00:38:37,839
thinking like Lethal Weapon as the

873
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:40,320
second movie. What a duet which

874
00:38:37,839 --> 00:38:43,599
ironically one of the dudes from a walk

875
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:45,520
to remember was in the TV adaptation of

876
00:38:43,599 --> 00:38:47,680
Lethal Weapon and then they killed him

877
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:50,960
off and it was a big dramatic thing.

878
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:53,680
Sure. Because him and uh Papa weighins

879
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:55,280
had beef. It was a whole thing. like

880
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,560
another like character was like, "You

881
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,760
can write me off the show as well if

882
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,440
y'all are going to like [ __ ] him over

883
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:02,400
like that." Like it was wild when it

884
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:04,079
went down. So,

885
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:06,560
not the same. Do you do you not the

886
00:39:04,079 --> 00:39:08,880
same, but do you remember the show beef

887
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:10,240
on BET?

888
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:13,200
Yes.

889
00:39:10,240 --> 00:39:15,440
So, I don't know why, but

890
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:17,359
I was scrolling through something and

891
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:20,560
saw something about 50 Cent and had this

892
00:39:17,359 --> 00:39:24,160
like full body memory of that time that

893
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:27,760
he was on beef with Jaw Rule and it was

894
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:30,320
incredible. And then how in 2018 50 Cent

895
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:33,200
bought all of the tickets that he could

896
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:38,720
for Jaw Rule's like coming home from

897
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:40,640
prison concert and so nobody was there.

898
00:39:38,720 --> 00:39:44,400
I mean,

899
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:47,200
it's that one is like incredible. That

900
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:50,320
one is straight up diabolical. It is so

901
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:52,079
good. Yes. It's like the ultimate flex

902
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:54,240
because it's like I have so much money

903
00:39:52,079 --> 00:39:56,400
that I don't mind giving you a

904
00:39:54,240 --> 00:39:59,599
significant amount of it just so that

905
00:39:56,400 --> 00:40:03,200
you have a shitty time.

906
00:39:59,599 --> 00:40:07,040
What? Incredible, man. And especially

907
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:08,720
like I don't know. I think of my husband

908
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:11,599
being that musician who's just like

909
00:40:08,720 --> 00:40:14,400
playing in a bar to 10 people and you're

910
00:40:11,599 --> 00:40:16,960
like, "Yeah, finally sold out. People

911
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:18,880
are here." And then it's like there's

912
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:22,400
one person

913
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:24,240
on the lawn seats

914
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,839
and you're performing for them and them

915
00:40:24,240 --> 00:40:28,960
alone.

916
00:40:25,839 --> 00:40:30,880
Deeply awkward. Oh, that would not I

917
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:34,240
used to uh when we still lived in

918
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:37,119
Nashville, I would teach yoga Mhm. for a

919
00:40:34,240 --> 00:40:39,440
nonprofit that uh

920
00:40:37,119 --> 00:40:41,040
focused on bringing yoga to communities

921
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:44,320
that wouldn't otherwise have access to

922
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:46,160
fitness. And there were like I taught

923
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,440
like at local libraries and outreach

924
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,960
centers and things like that, but there

925
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:51,599
was one place where like the class never

926
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:54,240
really took off and I was like we can

927
00:40:51,599 --> 00:40:56,240
just like drop this and I'd be like,

928
00:40:54,240 --> 00:40:57,760
"Okay, well like no one's here. Looks

929
00:40:56,240 --> 00:41:00,240
like I'm going to go." And then like one

930
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:04,240
person would walk in. I'm like, I love

931
00:41:00,240 --> 00:41:05,440
teaching a oneperson yoga class.

932
00:41:04,240 --> 00:41:08,240
Yeah. I was like, we're going to treat

933
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:10,720
this as a one- on-one situation because

934
00:41:08,240 --> 00:41:14,400
if I treat this like I'm teaching a full

935
00:41:10,720 --> 00:41:16,560
class for just you, we're both going to

936
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:21,599
feel weird about it. I'm like, this is

937
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:24,560
not not the mood at all. Um, okay. So,

938
00:41:21,599 --> 00:41:28,000
she falls asleep during Marley and me.

939
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:30,000
Yes. So, Alex puts her into his bed

940
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:33,280
because he doesn't have any of the other

941
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:35,280
bedrooms set up. And so, also, why were

942
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:38,560
they putting all of Josh's stuff in

943
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:40,240
storage that like they didn't need to? I

944
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:44,160
don't know. Not like none of this

945
00:41:40,240 --> 00:41:45,680
actually makes sense. So, like, well,

946
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:50,560
Chelsea, those are the questions you

947
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:54,240
don't need to ask. Well, no, because

948
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:56,640
none of it makes sense at all. So it it

949
00:41:54,240 --> 00:41:58,640
does make sense to me that the logistics

950
00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:01,280
of the move don't make sense because

951
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:04,160
much of the plot that didn't make sense

952
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:07,359
in my brain. Yeah. So So he takes her to

953
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:10,160
his bed. Yep. And after he canceled his

954
00:42:07,359 --> 00:42:13,520
date. Yep. And he feels bad that he's

955
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:17,520
attracted to her and but still puts her

956
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:19,760
in his bed. So then he's working cuz he

957
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:21,520
has insomnia while she's asleep. And

958
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:24,079
then all of a sudden, she just starts

959
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:25,760
screaming bloody murder and is very

960
00:42:24,079 --> 00:42:29,359
clearly having some kind of night

961
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:31,680
terror. And he knows that he's not

962
00:42:29,359 --> 00:42:33,680
supposed to wake her up. And so he's

963
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:35,280
like, I just have to watch her, I guess,

964
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,880
and make sure she hasn't hurt herself

965
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:39,280
cuz she's like flailing around and

966
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:42,000
stuff. Um,

967
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:43,760
is that Are you not supposed to wake

968
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,200
someone up in a night chair? I'm

969
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:47,280
learning something here. I don't know

970
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,640
that that's true. He just said, "Well, I

971
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,640
know you're not supposed to wake them up

972
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:54,079
because they can be really disoriented

973
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:56,000
and it can make them, you know, lash out

974
00:42:54,079 --> 00:42:58,400
or harm themselves because they're so

975
00:42:56,000 --> 00:43:00,079
disoriented." And I was like, I mean, I

976
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:02,079
guess,

977
00:43:00,079 --> 00:43:05,040
but

978
00:43:02,079 --> 00:43:08,079
but also when you are then able to like

979
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:11,119
ground yourself back in to reality,

980
00:43:08,079 --> 00:43:13,119
that's good for you. Yeah. You can like

981
00:43:11,119 --> 00:43:15,839
name name five things you can hear, four

982
00:43:13,119 --> 00:43:17,599
things you can see, three things like

983
00:43:15,839 --> 00:43:22,079
and like we have grounding techniques

984
00:43:17,599 --> 00:43:24,720
for when you awaken. Um

985
00:43:22,079 --> 00:43:26,640
apparently Ava doesn't but I like I

986
00:43:24,720 --> 00:43:27,680
might actually like legit I'm I'm

987
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,839
curious about that. I'm going to look

988
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:32,160
into that after this. So she just stays

989
00:43:29,839 --> 00:43:33,920
asleep. She doesn't wake up out of it.

990
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:36,560
She like

991
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:40,160
kind of like like tapers off and she

992
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:43,040
stays asleep. So then Ava wakes up with

993
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:44,880
her hand on Alex's dick in the morning

994
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:47,760
and like freaks out a little bit cuz

995
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:51,440
she's like, "Where am I and what is

996
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:54,160
happening?" You know, valid. Yep.

997
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:55,839
And then they both once they're both up

998
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:59,520
make jabs about, "Oh, you're not my

999
00:43:55,839 --> 00:44:01,280
type." Um,

1000
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,720
that happens in every single one of

1001
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,480
these where it's like, "Don't worry,

1002
00:44:02,720 --> 00:44:06,720
sweetheart. I would never be attracted

1003
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:08,800
to you. You're not my type.

1004
00:44:06,720 --> 00:44:10,480
Don't worry, sunshine. You're not my

1005
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:13,440
type. And you're like, good sir, you

1006
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:16,319
can't have both. Handle me.

1007
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:19,920
I'm reading a book right now where it's

1008
00:44:16,319 --> 00:44:22,880
a it's a Red Riding Hood one. Um, but

1009
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:25,839
he's like, "Were you too kinky for that

1010
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:27,920
other guy?" And he's like, "What? Did

1011
00:44:25,839 --> 00:44:30,800
you want him to lick you?" And I was

1012
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:33,200
like, "That's kinky?

1013
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:36,240
Where?" I was like, "What kind of

1014
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:39,680
licking? I don't but also I don't know

1015
00:44:36,240 --> 00:44:42,720
what would be I don't like

1016
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:44,800
I mean I don't need to

1017
00:44:42,720 --> 00:44:46,640
to hypothesize

1018
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:49,839
or

1019
00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:52,160
well I was like oh but I am a little

1020
00:44:49,839 --> 00:44:55,440
like I was like I didn't think I was

1021
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:59,359
that far out there but apparently you

1022
00:44:55,440 --> 00:45:02,000
know it is interesting because I I think

1023
00:44:59,359 --> 00:45:04,720
especially with like the amount of books

1024
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:07,680
we read the amount that we just kind of

1025
00:45:04,720 --> 00:45:11,200
like know about these communities at

1026
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:16,000
this point. I'm like, "Yeah, I'm

1027
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:18,319
definitely not that kinky in the full

1028
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:22,640
spectrum of like how far I can see it

1029
00:45:18,319 --> 00:45:25,119
go." And then I talk to some people and

1030
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:28,240
the way in which they talk, I'm like, am

1031
00:45:25,119 --> 00:45:29,440
I? Oh, am more okay, maybe I am more

1032
00:45:28,240 --> 00:45:33,119
than I realized. And I was like, I

1033
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:35,760
really don't Yeah. I I I don't think I'm

1034
00:45:33,119 --> 00:45:38,800
that wild by any stretch. I grew up with

1035
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:41,520
a lot of church repression. Like the

1036
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:43,040
puritanical values are strong, man. And

1037
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:45,520
so then may like the things I'm like,

1038
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:46,560
"Oh, well, I feel wild." And then I'm

1039
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:49,280
like, and then I look at other things,

1040
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:50,720
I'm like, "Well, I'm clearly not like

1041
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:54,880
but then I talk to some people, I'm

1042
00:45:50,720 --> 00:45:58,480
like, "Well, maybe I It's a spectrum,

1043
00:45:54,880 --> 00:46:00,720
you know?" Yeah. But I also I don't I

1044
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:02,160
think there's something about feeling

1045
00:46:00,720 --> 00:46:04,240
safe enough in your relationship that

1046
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:07,920
you're like, I don't know if I'm into

1047
00:46:04,240 --> 00:46:09,440
that, but I'm I want to try it. And I'll

1048
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:12,079
try it with you. Yeah, I'll try it with

1049
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:13,920
you. And yeah, and I feel like you you

1050
00:46:12,079 --> 00:46:16,000
quickly know if you're into it or not.

1051
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:19,440
Oh, yeah.

1052
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:20,960
There's not usually a Well,

1053
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:22,880
huh.

1054
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:26,560
I don't know. Might have to try it

1055
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:30,160
again. Do that again.

1056
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:33,040
To the left. Slower this time.

1057
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:34,319
No, I don't think that's for me. Now

1058
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:36,400
that you've hit it from a different

1059
00:46:34,319 --> 00:46:38,800
angle and at a different speed, I can

1060
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:42,000
say with confidence.

1061
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:45,839
So then um

1062
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:49,599
that later um she decides that it's time

1063
00:46:45,839 --> 00:46:52,400
for phase two of operation emotion. And

1064
00:46:49,599 --> 00:46:54,079
also just so I when we say later, is

1065
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:57,280
this like the next day? Is this just

1066
00:46:54,079 --> 00:46:58,880
kind of like Yeah, life is life and and

1067
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:00,720
yeah, probably within the next week

1068
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:03,599
she's like I'm going to move on to phase

1069
00:47:00,720 --> 00:47:07,839
two. Okay, so this one's discussed. Sad

1070
00:47:03,599 --> 00:47:10,480
was a failure. Operation sad was that

1071
00:47:07,839 --> 00:47:12,319
would make me mad more than sad. Yeah.

1072
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:15,280
And don't tell me anger is a secondary

1073
00:47:12,319 --> 00:47:15,280
emotion.

1074
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:21,160
Don't talk about the anger iceberg to

1075
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,160
me.

1076
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:27,440
The anger ice. It is actually a really

1077
00:47:24,079 --> 00:47:31,119
helpful visual. It is actually. Oh god.

1078
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:33,119
Okay. So, um she decides the next one is

1079
00:47:31,119 --> 00:47:35,839
going to be discussed. And so, a few

1080
00:47:33,119 --> 00:47:39,040
days later, she makes um I'm going to

1081
00:47:35,839 --> 00:47:41,680
get his consent this time.

1082
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:43,040
Like the first time she was like, I'm

1083
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:43,920
just going to try and make him sad. And

1084
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:46,640
this time she's like, "I'm going to

1085
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:50,000
discuss it first." No, no, no, no. She

1086
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:52,480
She decides she's going to do disgust.

1087
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:55,040
The emotion. Disgust. I thought you said

1088
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:57,599
she's going to discuss it first. No,

1089
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:59,200
she's Disgust is what we're trying for.

1090
00:47:57,599 --> 00:48:01,359
Not discuss. I'm really glad we've

1091
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:05,599
clarified that. You know, that is an

1092
00:48:01,359 --> 00:48:08,079
important distinction. So, um, she Okay,

1093
00:48:05,599 --> 00:48:09,760
so she's she's justing all of these on

1094
00:48:08,079 --> 00:48:12,000
him and she's just trying to gross them

1095
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:14,319
out. Yeah. Yeah. So, she makes the

1096
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:16,800
nastiest cookies she can possibly think

1097
00:48:14,319 --> 00:48:18,560
of because he she has baked for him a

1098
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:21,599
few times and he's clearly really

1099
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:25,040
enjoyed it. So, she makes garlic,

1100
00:48:21,599 --> 00:48:27,200
asparagus, and raisin cookies

1101
00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:29,280
and takes them over to his house and is

1102
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:31,359
like, "Hey, I tried this new recipe.

1103
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:33,280
Will you try it out and see if you like

1104
00:48:31,359 --> 00:48:37,280
it?"

1105
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:39,040
And he eats one and he's like, "You made

1106
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:41,920
this?"

1107
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:43,760
She's like, "Yes, you also made those

1108
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:46,319
other cookies you brought over here

1109
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:48,400
before." And she's like, "Yes." And he

1110
00:48:46,319 --> 00:48:51,440
goes, "These are fine." And she's like,

1111
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:53,280
"I literally threw up."

1112
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:56,880
She's like, "I tried one and I threw up

1113
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:59,520
and he had no response. They're fine."

1114
00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:02,640
So, another failure.

1115
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:04,880
And this is an interesting energy. She's

1116
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:07,040
really trying. So, then she decides on

1117
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:10,240
happiness and she plans a picnic for

1118
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:12,400
them. But um a dog pees on Alex's shoes

1119
00:49:10,240 --> 00:49:14,800
while they're at the park. So that one

1120
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:17,280
didn't work either.

1121
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:19,119
So the next phase is supposed to be

1122
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:22,800
fear, but she can't think of anything

1123
00:49:19,119 --> 00:49:24,800
that would scare him. Um she even asks

1124
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:28,480
her brother for help lowkey. She's like,

1125
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:31,040
"Hey, Halloween's coming up and I want

1126
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:32,880
to prank Alex. What's he afraid of?"

1127
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:36,720
It's like literally nothing. She's like,

1128
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:38,400
"Spiders, clowns. Come on. Tell him my

1129
00:49:36,720 --> 00:49:40,880
safety is in jeopardy. That would scare

1130
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:43,839
him. There you go. Not mine. And it

1131
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:46,319
will. No, probably not you. He doesn't

1132
00:49:43,839 --> 00:49:50,480
seem to care about anybody except for

1133
00:49:46,319 --> 00:49:53,359
Ava. Um and even that it's only when

1134
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:57,280
there's an east blowing wind.

1135
00:49:53,359 --> 00:50:01,040
Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Um only when his guard

1136
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:03,520
is down. So Ava's out with friends and

1137
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:05,839
um Operation Emotion is definitely a

1138
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:08,720
failure. And while she's just having a

1139
00:50:05,839 --> 00:50:11,040
good time, um her ex shows up again

1140
00:50:08,720 --> 00:50:12,880
demanding that they get back together

1141
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:15,119
and she flat out is like, "No,

1142
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:16,960
absolutely not." And then he very

1143
00:50:15,119 --> 00:50:19,040
quickly escalates to like calling her

1144
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:20,800
names like, "You're a stuck up [ __ ]

1145
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:24,319
Why won't you forgive me? I said I was

1146
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:26,240
sorry." Which is an interesting um I

1147
00:50:24,319 --> 00:50:31,680
always find that to be an interesting

1148
00:50:26,240 --> 00:50:34,160
approach. Yeah. So um he's like, "Who

1149
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:35,760
are you fucking?" like is that why you

1150
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:37,359
won't get back together with me cuz

1151
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:39,680
you're a little [ __ ] now? Like this

1152
00:50:37,359 --> 00:50:43,359
whole and it's like excuse me. So she

1153
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:46,240
kicks him in the balls and um good for

1154
00:50:43,359 --> 00:50:48,000
her. Yeah. She's pretty freaked out by

1155
00:50:46,240 --> 00:50:52,160
it but she's like I handled it. I did

1156
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:55,200
it. So then a few days later they are at

1157
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:57,839
a or Alex is at a gayla uh for the

1158
00:50:55,200 --> 00:51:00,000
university and Ava shows up looking

1159
00:50:57,839 --> 00:51:01,920
incredible. He was not expecting to see

1160
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:04,880
her there. And he gets really mad when

1161
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:06,960
she starts dancing with somebody. Um, of

1162
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:09,920
course he does. And he finally admits to

1163
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:12,319
himself that Ava is his, that he's been

1164
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:13,839
lying to himself all this time. We're

1165
00:51:12,319 --> 00:51:19,040
like halfway through the book and he's

1166
00:51:13,839 --> 00:51:22,880
just now like, "Oh, okay." So, um, maybe

1167
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:24,720
I am into Ava, right? Now upon further

1168
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:27,599
reflection,

1169
00:51:24,720 --> 00:51:30,880
so um

1170
00:51:27,599 --> 00:51:34,559
he gets sidetracked by some woman he

1171
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:36,319
used to be banging. Um, but by the time

1172
00:51:34,559 --> 00:51:38,640
I also feel like in all of these books

1173
00:51:36,319 --> 00:51:41,680
that I've read spiritually, it's always

1174
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:45,280
a double standard with like an ex that's

1175
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:48,400
like a super hot beautiful. They

1176
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:50,960
typically want the dude back as well at

1177
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:54,559
some level to varying degrees of

1178
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:56,720
desperation. Y, but and it's always that

1179
00:51:54,559 --> 00:51:58,079
like, oh well, they meant nothing to me,

1180
00:51:56,720 --> 00:52:00,160
so I don't understand why the girl's

1181
00:51:58,079 --> 00:52:02,079
upset about it. But like if a dude looks

1182
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:03,839
at the girl, they're like, "I'll [ __ ]

1183
00:52:02,079 --> 00:52:07,200
rip his eyes out of his body." And

1184
00:52:03,839 --> 00:52:09,200
you're like, "Bro." Right. So this is

1185
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:11,920
the girl that he canled his date with to

1186
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:13,760
hang out with Ava. Oh, okay. And he

1187
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:15,440
tells her like their arrangement is off

1188
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:19,920
cuz they both had agreed to like

1189
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:25,040
strictly physical whatever. Um and so

1190
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:28,240
then he decides to um dance with Ava. He

1191
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:29,359
cuts in with somebody and starts saying

1192
00:52:28,240 --> 00:52:31,839
something and she's like, "You don't

1193
00:52:29,359 --> 00:52:34,160
really know me." And he's like, "I can

1194
00:52:31,839 --> 00:52:35,760
prove it." She's like, "What's my

1195
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:38,559
favorite color?" And they go down this

1196
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:40,720
whole list and he like gets every answer

1197
00:52:38,559 --> 00:52:44,960
correct.

1198
00:52:40,720 --> 00:52:48,160
Um, and so then he loses track of Ava as

1199
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:50,160
the night goes on. Okay. Question. Mhm.

1200
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:52,800
Do you think what's my favorite color or

1201
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:56,079
what color are my eyes is a bigger

1202
00:52:52,800 --> 00:53:00,160
question in that moment?

1203
00:52:56,079 --> 00:53:02,240
Well, she's Asian, so I feel like what

1204
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:04,800
color are my eyes? I didn't mean in this

1205
00:53:02,240 --> 00:53:08,400
book necessarily. I just meant like when

1206
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:10,400
we read these spiritually. Sure.

1207
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,839
I think

1208
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,839
Well, I mean, he's been staring into

1209
00:53:11,839 --> 00:53:16,240
them while he's they've been dancing,

1210
00:53:13,839 --> 00:53:18,000
but both questions are irritating to me.

1211
00:53:16,240 --> 00:53:20,800
There is something like, "What color are

1212
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:24,640
my eyes?"

1213
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:26,960
One would hope that like you would like.

1214
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:29,760
Yeah, I can answer that one cuz I'm

1215
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:31,520
looking at you as I answer it. It does

1216
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:34,000
take a little bit more to know your

1217
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:36,160
favorite color. I do feel like the eyes

1218
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:38,559
are a gimme when they're like, "I closed

1219
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:41,760
my eyes and asked him what color are my

1220
00:53:38,559 --> 00:53:45,359
eyes right after I closed them." Like,

1221
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:48,240
and he was looking at you presumably.

1222
00:53:45,359 --> 00:53:50,319
So, I don't think I ever paid attention

1223
00:53:48,240 --> 00:53:52,000
to Vance's eyes. I don't think I like

1224
00:53:50,319 --> 00:53:54,640
for a long time I could have told you.

1225
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:57,359
I'm like, he's brunette, so probably

1226
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:59,920
brown was like I think my answer the

1227
00:53:57,359 --> 00:54:01,760
first time someone asked me I'm like he

1228
00:53:59,920 --> 00:54:04,559
has eyes.

1229
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:07,119
They seem to work. Yeah, sure. Well, he

1230
00:54:04,559 --> 00:54:09,920
is legally blind or close to legally

1231
00:54:07,119 --> 00:54:13,280
blind. So, I take it back with

1232
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:15,839
corrective lenses. They work great

1233
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:17,839
as intended.

1234
00:54:15,839 --> 00:54:19,920
Okay, so he gets all of the answers

1235
00:54:17,839 --> 00:54:21,920
right on her like, "You don't even know

1236
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:23,520
me. Let me prove it. What's my favorite

1237
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:25,520
color?" And he's like, "I'll tell you

1238
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:27,440
that and your favorite food and your

1239
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:29,359
favorite thing." Mint chocolate chip ice

1240
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:32,880
cream. It's like the whole thing. Yep.

1241
00:54:29,359 --> 00:54:34,960
So then, um, he loses track of her. Um,

1242
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:39,280
and he goes to leave a little while

1243
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:41,520
later and he hears Ava say like, "Get

1244
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:44,880
away from me. like, "Leave me alone."

1245
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:47,520
And so, um, it's her drunk ex. He showed

1246
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:51,040
up again and he has her like pinned to a

1247
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:52,880
wall and is like, it's messed up. But

1248
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:54,880
she,

1249
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:56,880
um, he's like going on and on about how

1250
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:59,280
much he loves her and this other girl

1251
00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:02,000
didn't mean anything and please take me

1252
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:04,960
back and I miss you so much. You get it?

1253
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:06,960
So then she headbutts him in the face.

1254
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:08,880
Good. She's like, "Absolutely not." Like

1255
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:11,040
before Alex can get there, she's like,

1256
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:12,640
"Go [ __ ] yourself." She's like, "I can't

1257
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:14,480
get him in the balls this time cuz the

1258
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:16,480
way he's got me pinned, but I got a

1259
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:19,440
forehead."

1260
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:22,640
All right. I

1261
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:27,280
like Ava more than I like Alex. I feel

1262
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:31,680
like Ava likable just reads young. Yeah.

1263
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:34,480
But like not bad, just young, right? Not

1264
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:36,720
in the like painfully immature. Yeah. Or

1265
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:40,079
painfully ignorant kind of way. just in

1266
00:55:36,720 --> 00:55:43,040
a she's in her early 20s and hasn't had

1267
00:55:40,079 --> 00:55:44,640
enough life yet to like Yeah, she's

1268
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:45,760
acting like she's in her early 20s. And

1269
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:47,119
hell yeah, because also there's

1270
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:48,960
something about being in your early 20s

1271
00:55:47,119 --> 00:55:51,520
where you feel a little more invincible.

1272
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:53,359
Yeah. There's a certain freedom that you

1273
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:54,640
lose over time. Yeah. There's in my

1274
00:55:53,359 --> 00:55:56,319
early 20s I would have been like, "Fuck

1275
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:59,839
yeah, I'm going to headbutt that

1276
00:55:56,319 --> 00:56:01,760
asshole." And now I'm a little bit like

1277
00:55:59,839 --> 00:56:04,640
if I yell louder, somebody's going to

1278
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:07,520
hear me. I'm in a room or in a Yeah, I

1279
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:09,440
am a little like I I don't know if I'm

1280
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:11,280
going to think through that situation

1281
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:13,760
the same way that I I would have 10

1282
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:17,920
years ago. It hits different. It really

1283
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:20,880
does. Um but then Alex like then arrives

1284
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:23,200
and beats the ever loving [ __ ] out of

1285
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:25,359
this guy. Um Ava wants to call an

1286
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:27,359
ambulance and Alex is like, "Somebody

1287
00:56:25,359 --> 00:56:30,160
else will find him. We're going home."

1288
00:56:27,359 --> 00:56:33,680
And like leaves with her and he is

1289
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:36,559
livid. he overheard something the ex

1290
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:38,240
said about, you know, last week or one

1291
00:56:36,559 --> 00:56:40,880
of them mentioned when he cornered her

1292
00:56:38,240 --> 00:56:42,720
in the bar. And so Alex is like, "Why

1293
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:46,480
didn't you tell me like he's really

1294
00:56:42,720 --> 00:56:49,280
mad?" Okay. So, like the way in which it

1295
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:51,280
was discussed, Alex recognizes that it

1296
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:54,240
wasn't like a good interaction that they

1297
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:55,599
had. Right. Um, and I just feel like in

1298
00:56:54,240 --> 00:56:58,319
some of these it's like the wait, were

1299
00:56:55,599 --> 00:57:00,160
you on a date with him a week ago? It's

1300
00:56:58,319 --> 00:57:04,000
clear she didn't want to talk to him.

1301
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:05,920
But Alex is like extremely furious about

1302
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:09,520
the whole thing. But then when they're

1303
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:12,720
in the car heading home, she suddenly

1304
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:15,760
has a flashback of when So this is when

1305
00:57:12,720 --> 00:57:18,000
we find out her mother tried to kill

1306
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:20,400
her. That's why she has this fear of

1307
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:23,359
water. Her mother pushed her into the

1308
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:26,559
lake um knowing she couldn't swim when

1309
00:57:23,359 --> 00:57:29,920
she was about four or five.

1310
00:57:26,559 --> 00:57:31,920
And so Alex is fully panicked about this

1311
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:34,799
because like he's pulled the car over.

1312
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:38,720
He's like what? Like what just happened?

1313
00:57:34,799 --> 00:57:41,520
Like you know cuz he doesn't know what's

1314
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:44,400
going on. Um so he just decides to take

1315
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:46,319
her to a diner, get her some coffee, get

1316
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:50,640
her some food, like make sure that she's

1317
00:57:46,319 --> 00:57:53,119
okay. And so then she tells Alex more of

1318
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:57,280
the story of her past. her parents were

1319
00:57:53,119 --> 00:58:01,760
divorcing and um it was pretty messy

1320
00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:07,119
divorce and um her mom had some kind of

1321
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:09,599
full psychotic meltdown essentially. Um

1322
00:58:07,119 --> 00:58:11,599
and pushed her into the lake. Um and

1323
00:58:09,599 --> 00:58:14,000
then her dad just happened to be

1324
00:58:11,599 --> 00:58:16,960
stopping by the house to drop something

1325
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:21,200
off um and saw it and was able to dive

1326
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:24,319
in and save her. Um, and so

1327
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:26,640
later her mother died of an overdose and

1328
00:58:24,319 --> 00:58:28,160
it's unclear, but it seems that it was

1329
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:29,760
intentional.

1330
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:31,760
So

1331
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:34,240
they have this like heartto-he heart

1332
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:36,400
where she gets really vulnerable. Um,

1333
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:39,680
and she admits to herself that she

1334
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:41,200
really does like him actually. Um, which

1335
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:44,000
also

1336
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:46,319
I don't know when you've been best

1337
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:48,960
friends, which I mean I guess like some

1338
00:58:46,319 --> 00:58:51,839
of this being like repressed memories

1339
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:54,799
Josh wouldn't have had like context for,

1340
00:58:51,839 --> 00:58:56,319
but it does but the dad was there. Like

1341
00:58:54,799 --> 00:58:59,440
the dad could have said what had

1342
00:58:56,319 --> 00:59:01,599
happened. Well, so she knows what

1343
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:04,160
happened because her dad has told her

1344
00:59:01,599 --> 00:59:06,480
what happened. Okay. And then she has

1345
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:08,559
these flashbacks of like her being in

1346
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:10,640
the water and crying for her mom, but

1347
00:59:08,559 --> 00:59:13,839
she doesn't remember

1348
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:15,440
like anything really past that. Her dad

1349
00:59:13,839 --> 00:59:16,640
is the one who told her the story. I

1350
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:18,640
really feel like Josh would have

1351
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:21,520
mentioned that this to his best friend

1352
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:23,920
at some point. Well,

1353
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:25,599
it seems like neither of them talked

1354
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:27,200
about their pasts. They're both just

1355
00:59:25,599 --> 00:59:29,440
like they're [ __ ] up and we don't

1356
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:31,359
really have family like that. We're not

1357
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:33,520
going to ask any questions. It seems

1358
00:59:31,359 --> 00:59:36,960
like they co-signed each other's desire

1359
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:38,400
not to discuss the past. Yeah. Agree to

1360
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:40,480
Yeah. You know what you need to know.

1361
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:44,480
Not agree to disagree, but agree to just

1362
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:48,000
not about this. Yeah, that's fair. I'm

1363
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:50,640
also like maybe if you're like

1364
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:52,559
having him move into your house to like

1365
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:54,240
watch your sister though and this is

1366
00:59:52,559 --> 00:59:56,720
part of why you're so overprotective of

1367
00:59:54,240 --> 01:00:00,880
your sister, that would be helpful

1368
00:59:56,720 --> 01:00:02,720
context to to pass along.

1369
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:08,000
So,

1370
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:11,440
in all of this, um, Ava asks Alex if she

1371
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:13,680
can photograph him, and he agrees. So,

1372
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:15,359
we flash forward a few days to the photo

1373
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:18,319
shoot.

1374
01:00:15,359 --> 01:00:21,200
Um, and she's trying to get him to show

1375
01:00:18,319 --> 01:00:23,440
some emotion. Um,

1376
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:25,839
and somehow it comes about as she's

1377
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:28,640
trying to evoke something so she can

1378
01:00:25,839 --> 01:00:32,880
take a picture of it. um they somehow

1379
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:36,799
admit that they're into each other. Um

1380
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:38,319
but he's like a person can be hot and

1381
01:00:36,799 --> 01:00:39,920
that doesn't mean like you can be

1382
01:00:38,319 --> 01:00:42,079
attracted to someone and not be like

1383
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:44,079
compatible with them and like I would

1384
01:00:42,079 --> 01:00:46,079
never do that to Josh and basically he

1385
01:00:44,079 --> 01:00:48,079
like shuts it down and it gets kind of

1386
01:00:46,079 --> 01:00:52,640
awkward.

1387
01:00:48,079 --> 01:00:55,680
Um so then again several days later Alex

1388
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:57,760
is in his office. Um, my notes say

1389
01:00:55,680 --> 01:01:00,000
continuing to plan his world domination

1390
01:00:57,760 --> 01:01:02,960
and vengeance.

1391
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:04,960
Um, capital R revenge. Capital R

1392
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:10,160
revenge. I feel like there's a Google

1393
01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:12,000
doc. It's like revenge plot. Like

1394
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:15,359
there's another one called revenge

1395
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:18,559
draft, too. Well, and his his uh

1396
01:01:15,359 --> 01:01:23,680
thumbnail profile photo on Google is the

1397
01:01:18,559 --> 01:01:25,760
V for vendetta Guy Fox mask.

1398
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:27,920
Yes,

1399
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:31,280
without question. Would not bet against

1400
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:33,520
that a day in my life. So, he gets a

1401
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:35,839
notification while he's in his office of

1402
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:41,520
a live stream that somebody has tagged

1403
01:01:35,839 --> 01:01:47,359
Ava and the chick, his ex in. They were

1404
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:50,640
videoed fighting. What? Yeah. And so

1405
01:01:47,359 --> 01:01:53,440
he's like, "No." and like takes off to

1406
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:56,880
Meline's house, which is the girl. Did

1407
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:59,119
he know Meline from the MMA gym? Also,

1408
01:01:56,880 --> 01:02:02,160
did Ava ever go to the self-defense

1409
01:01:59,119 --> 01:02:03,599
classes? She did start going after he

1410
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:08,400
made a second request when she got

1411
01:02:03,599 --> 01:02:11,760
pinned to the wall. Um, fair. So,

1412
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:13,119
Meline is super rich also, so they run

1413
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:16,720
in the same circles and that's how they

1414
01:02:13,119 --> 01:02:18,960
met. Um, but Ava's at a house party. It

1415
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:21,200
is a random house party that she went to

1416
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:23,520
with a friend who was invited by some

1417
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:26,559
other friend of a friend. As is the

1418
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:30,559
house party way. Yep. And she winds up

1419
01:02:26,559 --> 01:02:32,960
in Alex's ex's pool room of her house

1420
01:02:30,559 --> 01:02:34,960
because there's an indoor pool because

1421
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:36,880
they're rich. That's something I left

1422
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:39,280
out in this. Everything is like he drove

1423
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:42,720
up in his Aston Martin and he had on his

1424
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:46,000
whatever, you know, [ __ ] Armani suit

1425
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:49,440
or whatever. You said house party and I

1426
01:02:46,000 --> 01:02:51,520
have really just been thinking about

1427
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:53,520
when I was in my early 20s and lived.

1428
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:55,680
That's the era in which I was living in

1429
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:58,880
Nashville. And it wasn't just house

1430
01:02:55,680 --> 01:03:00,720
parties. It was house shows. Oh yes.

1431
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:02,319
Some were better than others. Yes. And

1432
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:05,520
the problem was house shows are too

1433
01:03:02,319 --> 01:03:10,000
intimate. Like a house party. Yep.

1434
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:13,440
You're one of many. You can blend. Yep.

1435
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:16,319
Fade. A house show. Nope.

1436
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:18,400
You're locked in. Yep. And you cannot

1437
01:03:16,319 --> 01:03:20,799
get out. Nope. It's like [ __ ] Hotel

1438
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:22,640
California. It is a little bit cuz it's

1439
01:03:20,799 --> 01:03:24,640
like if I get up to pee, are they going

1440
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:27,039
to think that I hate them? Yeah. It's

1441
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:28,880
awkward. One had a hug circle. Oh, yeah.

1442
01:03:27,039 --> 01:03:31,119
The hug circle that you couldn't get out

1443
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:32,640
of. No. And I still think about my

1444
01:03:31,119 --> 01:03:35,039
friend who brought me to the party who

1445
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:36,880
wasn't in the hug circle. And I don't to

1446
01:03:35,039 --> 01:03:38,799
this day I don't know how she managed to

1447
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:42,480
avoid it.

1448
01:03:38,799 --> 01:03:45,760
Um, she's just better prepared than you,

1449
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:49,599
you know? Probably. Maybe she just saw

1450
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:51,359
it coming. I don't know. I was not By

1451
01:03:49,599 --> 01:03:55,200
the time I realized what was happening,

1452
01:03:51,359 --> 01:03:57,440
there was no easy way to leave

1453
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:59,520
the group hug.

1454
01:03:57,440 --> 01:04:01,920
There was no smooth transition at the

1455
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:04,319
end. No, there was no like, I need to go

1456
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:06,480
refill my drink. It's like, "Oh, my arms

1457
01:04:04,319 --> 01:04:11,359
are starting to go up around y'all." And

1458
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:15,359
I'm going, "Can I bring these back?"

1459
01:04:11,359 --> 01:04:18,880
Do I strike a power pose? How do I do

1460
01:04:15,359 --> 01:04:21,200
it? I'm going to Brenne Brown my way out

1461
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:25,599
of this [ __ ]

1462
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:28,160
Oh [ __ ] Yeah, the struggle was real. So

1463
01:04:25,599 --> 01:04:30,559
Ava found herself in a similar yet

1464
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:32,960
different situation where she somehow

1465
01:04:30,559 --> 01:04:35,599
found herself at Alex's ex's house and

1466
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:38,160
she has no idea who this woman is. And

1467
01:04:35,599 --> 01:04:41,039
but it's a rich house party. It's a rich

1468
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:44,160
fancy house party. So isn't that just

1469
01:04:41,039 --> 01:04:46,400
another gala? Like what? I don't feel

1470
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:49,760
like people at a certain tax bracket are

1471
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:51,520
having trashy house parties. And not

1472
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:55,520
that they're trashy, but you know what I

1473
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:58,880
mean. I mean I do. I don't know. But so

1474
01:04:55,520 --> 01:05:01,440
Meline just is like, "I saw you dancing

1475
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:05,039
with Alex." Like, "You'll never be able

1476
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:08,000
to meet his needs." And D cuz he's a man

1477
01:05:05,039 --> 01:05:10,079
with certain interest and tastes in the

1478
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:12,240
bedroom. And she's like, "He's into

1479
01:05:10,079 --> 01:05:13,839
choking and degradation. If he hasn't

1480
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:15,760
called you a little [ __ ] he has he

1481
01:05:13,839 --> 01:05:18,160
even really [ __ ] you." She's like all

1482
01:05:15,760 --> 01:05:22,520
the way like

1483
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:22,520
this is not women supporting women.

1484
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:30,720
She's like off the chain about it. This

1485
01:05:25,839 --> 01:05:33,760
is not women supporting women.

1486
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:35,440
I'm sorry, but it's not. Has he even

1487
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:38,480
[ __ ] you yet? If he hasn't called you

1488
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:41,359
a little [ __ ] right? This is not

1489
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:44,160
supporting women. It's not. And she's

1490
01:05:41,359 --> 01:05:46,400
like, "He'll only take you from behind.

1491
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:49,280
Like, there's no way you could keep up

1492
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:52,160
with him." Like all this [ __ ] And what

1493
01:05:49,280 --> 01:05:54,480
do you keep up with him? Yeah, if it's

1494
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:57,520
from behind, there's not much work that

1495
01:05:54,480 --> 01:06:00,000
you're doing there. Not particularly. I

1496
01:05:57,520 --> 01:06:03,000
mean, could put a little wiggle in it,

1497
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:03,000
but

1498
01:06:03,119 --> 01:06:07,079
you could grab a toy.

1499
01:06:09,359 --> 01:06:16,960
I'm just saying it's limited options in

1500
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:19,760
that position. It is. Yeah. So, Ava

1501
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:22,960
responds in a way that I really enjoyed.

1502
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:24,720
Um, and she was like, "Maybe he only did

1503
01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:28,000
you from behind cuz he just didn't like

1504
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:30,640
looking at you." Like, she's like, "Have

1505
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:32,319
you ever thought of that?"

1506
01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:36,799
Probably not going to help her in the

1507
01:06:32,319 --> 01:06:38,559
moment, but I do respect it. No. Um, I

1508
01:06:36,799 --> 01:06:41,119
think Ava this whole time has just been

1509
01:06:38,559 --> 01:06:43,760
like handling her own. For real. She's

1510
01:06:41,119 --> 01:06:46,559
like, "I don't need you."

1511
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:48,720
So, unfortunately, at this point, lest

1512
01:06:46,559 --> 01:06:50,960
we forget, they're in the pool room.

1513
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:52,960
Meline loses her [ __ ] and pushes Ava

1514
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:54,559
into the pool.

1515
01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:58,160
Immediate trauma response. Like her

1516
01:06:54,559 --> 01:06:59,599
whole body locks. So then for as much as

1517
01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:01,599
we've been joking about their fight, I

1518
01:06:59,599 --> 01:07:04,000
can also I'm just like, oh [ __ ] Like

1519
01:07:01,599 --> 01:07:06,240
that's really [ __ ] up. Like so that's

1520
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:08,799
one thing that like in some of these

1521
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:10,480
books it's like oh the trauma is real.

1522
01:07:08,799 --> 01:07:12,079
Like those are things that really could

1523
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:14,079
happen. Like that's how that could

1524
01:07:12,079 --> 01:07:16,160
really go down. And so there's a certain

1525
01:07:14,079 --> 01:07:18,160
amount of like

1526
01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:20,559
difference I want to give traumatic

1527
01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:25,039
events, but also that fight was

1528
01:07:20,559 --> 01:07:27,359
hilarious. Like we can we can experience

1529
01:07:25,039 --> 01:07:30,799
that dialectic.

1530
01:07:27,359 --> 01:07:33,359
So we cut out of Ava and we go to Alex

1531
01:07:30,799 --> 01:07:37,119
and he's just gotten to uh Meline's

1532
01:07:33,359 --> 01:07:39,440
house, but Ava is gone. He finds Meline,

1533
01:07:37,119 --> 01:07:43,599
basically pushes her around a bit,

1534
01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:45,599
threatens her family business. um and is

1535
01:07:43,599 --> 01:07:49,200
like, "Where is she? Tell me where she

1536
01:07:45,599 --> 01:07:51,119
is." Whatever. And um Meline's friend

1537
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:53,200
happened to be nearby, knows about her

1538
01:07:51,119 --> 01:07:54,960
fear of water, was able to get her out

1539
01:07:53,200 --> 01:07:57,760
of the pool, and immediately took her

1540
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:59,839
home, obviously. Oh, so there was a kind

1541
01:07:57,760 --> 01:08:01,280
human there. We love that. Yeah. The

1542
01:07:59,839 --> 01:08:02,880
friend she went to the party with that

1543
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:07,440
she didn't know like all this was going

1544
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:11,920
on. Oh, okay. Yeah. So he gets to Ava's

1545
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:14,400
and her friend um is like, "She's not

1546
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:17,600
she is not okay. Like just for the

1547
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:20,319
record, she really wants me to leave. So

1548
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:23,199
that's why I'm on my way out, but like

1549
01:08:20,319 --> 01:08:25,600
you should probably stay. Like somebody

1550
01:08:23,199 --> 01:08:27,359
needs to be with her." And they have

1551
01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:29,120
another heartto-he heart where she has a

1552
01:08:27,359 --> 01:08:31,759
little bit of a breakdown and says that

1553
01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:33,520
she's just tired of being afraid. um she

1554
01:08:31,759 --> 01:08:35,279
wants to be able to travel, but the idea

1555
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:39,920
of being in a plane over the ocean is

1556
01:08:35,279 --> 01:08:43,120
like absolutely unacceptable. Um and so

1557
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:46,400
she asks him to teach her how to swim,

1558
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:49,040
and it's a very like sweet moment.

1559
01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:52,159
So weeks go by at this point, Alex has

1560
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:54,159
been helping Ava like visualize water

1561
01:08:52,159 --> 01:08:57,279
and practice grounding skills. So he's

1562
01:08:54,159 --> 01:09:00,400
doing exposure therapy, like incremental

1563
01:08:57,279 --> 01:09:02,400
exposure therapy. And so, um, he's

1564
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:04,159
helping her with like meditation and

1565
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:06,400
breathing exercises and things like

1566
01:09:04,159 --> 01:09:09,920
that, um, before they try the real

1567
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:13,440
thing. And not even at that that level

1568
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:15,440
by any stretch of the imagination. Sure.

1569
01:09:13,440 --> 01:09:17,440
Seasons ago, could not tell you when.

1570
01:09:15,440 --> 01:09:20,719
Probably 10 years ago now. I remember

1571
01:09:17,440 --> 01:09:23,359
there was a season of the challenge

1572
01:09:20,719 --> 01:09:25,199
where there was a swimming compet like

1573
01:09:23,359 --> 01:09:28,319
one that was like happening in a body of

1574
01:09:25,199 --> 01:09:32,239
water. Sure. And one of the competitors

1575
01:09:28,319 --> 01:09:37,600
didn't know how to swim. Oh. And decided

1576
01:09:32,239 --> 01:09:39,600
to go for it anyway. In a way that like

1577
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:43,440
part of you wants to applaud their

1578
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:47,759
bravery, but the other part was like, oh

1579
01:09:43,440 --> 01:09:50,880
no. Watching them jump in, they could

1580
01:09:47,759 --> 01:09:54,560
not swim at all and had to be rescued

1581
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:58,320
out of the water. And you're like,

1582
01:09:54,560 --> 01:10:01,840
that was stressful to just watch you

1583
01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:04,560
flail in the water on television knowing

1584
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:06,400
that there were like

1585
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:08,960
so many [ __ ] people immediately

1586
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:13,280
around you to jump in and help you and

1587
01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:16,080
that like you were safe. But even just

1588
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:21,360
watching that

1589
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:23,280
how stress inducing it and that

1590
01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:24,719
trauma attached to it, right? That's

1591
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:27,199
just like someone who didn't know how to

1592
01:10:24,719 --> 01:10:30,800
swim. Not including not knowing how to

1593
01:10:27,199 --> 01:10:33,679
swim attached with a legitimate fear of

1594
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:35,040
water, right? I also growing up in

1595
01:10:33,679 --> 01:10:36,480
Florida, it just like I'm like, "Yeah,

1596
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:38,640
this is what you do." Like everyone's a

1597
01:10:36,480 --> 01:10:41,440
fish. She like dived to the bottom of

1598
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:43,840
10ft swimming pools for batons. Like

1599
01:10:41,440 --> 01:10:45,679
Yeah. Well, like we had classes as soon

1600
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:47,520
as you could crawl where they threw you

1601
01:10:45,679 --> 01:10:50,080
into the pool and you learned to flip

1602
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:51,600
over to prevent drowning. Like literally

1603
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:54,000
as soon as you could crawl, you were

1604
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:55,920
being thrown fully clothed into the pool

1605
01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:57,679
so you can learn to flip over. We really

1606
01:10:55,920 --> 01:11:00,000
need to sign Ford up for some swimming

1607
01:10:57,679 --> 01:11:02,400
classes. Oh yeah. Before he turns into a

1608
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:03,600
little [ __ ]

1609
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:05,760
Can't have that.

1610
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:07,280
Well, and yeah, you're allowed to be a

1611
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:10,000
little [ __ ] if you're a child who like

1612
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:13,360
doesn't know how to swim, but also

1613
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:14,880
we are a water family in a way that I'm

1614
01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:19,040
like, I'm going to need you to come

1615
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:20,800
along on that journey with us. Yep.

1616
01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:22,560
So, thank you for that reminder to send

1617
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:24,960
Nathan up for swimming classes so that

1618
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:26,480
he can learn along with Ava. You're

1619
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:28,400
welcome. But it is sweet that Alex is

1620
01:11:26,480 --> 01:11:31,199
teaching Ava. It is really nice and

1621
01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:33,120
they're spending more like truly

1622
01:11:31,199 --> 01:11:34,480
platonic time together where they're

1623
01:11:33,120 --> 01:11:37,120
just actually getting to know each

1624
01:11:34,480 --> 01:11:38,719
other. So Ava decides to throw him a

1625
01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:41,360
surprise party for his birthday which

1626
01:11:38,719 --> 01:11:43,920
seems like a big swing to me but go off.

1627
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:46,320
So um well and at this point has

1628
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:47,840
anything physical happened between them

1629
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:50,400
at all? Um there's been a couple of

1630
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:52,080
moments of like she's wound up on his

1631
01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:54,080
lap.

1632
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:57,600
They woke up in bed together, but like

1633
01:11:54,080 --> 01:12:00,960
nothing like truly sexual has occurred.

1634
01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:05,040
Okay. Um, so he loosens up as the party

1635
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:07,120
goes on and at the end of the night, um,

1636
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:09,920
he tells Ava that this was his first

1637
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:12,239
birthday party since his parents died.

1638
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:14,080
Um, and they have a really tender moment

1639
01:12:12,239 --> 01:12:15,920
where he's like, "My family always made

1640
01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:19,679
a big deal of it, but my uncle never

1641
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:21,679
did." Um, and like I didn't want him to

1642
01:12:19,679 --> 01:12:23,920
cuz it just didn't feel right. So, like

1643
01:12:21,679 --> 01:12:26,719
this was a big deal for him in a way

1644
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:28,239
that she didn't understand. Um, and

1645
01:12:26,719 --> 01:12:30,159
well, I'm glad she took the big swing,

1646
01:12:28,239 --> 01:12:32,000
Hannah. Me, too, because they finally

1647
01:12:30,159 --> 01:12:35,520
kiss

1648
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:38,239
finally. Um, so then he she kisses him,

1649
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:41,840
but immediately he's pulling her hair

1650
01:12:38,239 --> 01:12:44,000
and pushing her into the counter. Um,

1651
01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:46,880
and then cuz he's a man of certain

1652
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:48,560
sexual interest. And then immediate he

1653
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:50,719
immediately he's like, "This could never

1654
01:12:48,560 --> 01:12:52,640
happen again. you need to let go of your

1655
01:12:50,719 --> 01:12:54,480
little fantasies that I'm a hero will

1656
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:58,159
never work.

1657
01:12:54,480 --> 01:13:03,360
And Ava what is really embarrassed about

1658
01:12:58,159 --> 01:13:06,560
this. And so um he's like I'm just

1659
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:09,520
trying to save you from me like you like

1660
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:12,880
whatever. And she thanks but doesn't say

1661
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:16,640
out loud I don't want to be saved. Like

1662
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:19,120
okay. So

1663
01:13:16,640 --> 01:13:21,360
again more days go by. Alex is really

1664
01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:23,520
agitated. He hasn't heard from Ava,

1665
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:26,719
obviously, because he was a douche. Um,

1666
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:28,960
and she skipped their swim lessons. Um,

1667
01:13:26,719 --> 01:13:31,199
so he shows up at the gallery where she

1668
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:33,520
works. So, she also works part-time in a

1669
01:13:31,199 --> 01:13:36,080
photo gallery just for extra money

1670
01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:39,120
because while her dad is paying for her

1671
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:42,080
tuition, he will not pay for anything

1672
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:45,840
related to actual photography because he

1673
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:48,159
thinks it's a waste. Um, but he didn't

1674
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:50,159
say he wouldn't pay for school.

1675
01:13:48,159 --> 01:13:52,480
you know, or anything. We respect that

1676
01:13:50,159 --> 01:13:54,960
he's still paid for the degree. Yeah, we

1677
01:13:52,480 --> 01:13:57,760
can. So, she works part time at a

1678
01:13:54,960 --> 01:14:00,640
gallery to support her photography. So,

1679
01:13:57,760 --> 01:14:03,040
um is like she's been ghosting her swim

1680
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:05,920
lessons. And it's like, yeah, yeah,

1681
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:08,080
because she threw you a birthday party

1682
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:10,080
and you told her to let go of her

1683
01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:12,640
childish fantasies about you. Yeah, you

1684
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:15,280
were really mean. Like, pick a lane,

1685
01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:18,080
bro. So, he shows up at the gallery with

1686
01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:19,760
a brand new iPhone and he's like, "Since

1687
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:23,480
I haven't heard from you in 5 days,

1688
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:23,480
yours must be broken."

1689
01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:30,960
And she's like, "Alex,

1690
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:32,719
did you just miss me?" Like, and so she

1691
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:34,800
immediately starts like teasing him and

1692
01:14:32,719 --> 01:14:36,239
[ __ ] Um, she's like, "Alex, you don't

1693
01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:38,480
you didn't have to get a gift. You could

1694
01:14:36,239 --> 01:14:40,080
have just stopped by and said hi, right?

1695
01:14:38,480 --> 01:14:41,840
You didn't have to be weird about it.

1696
01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:45,760
It's okay. We live next door to each

1697
01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:47,440
other." So, um, Ava at this point like

1698
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:49,120
pulls back from teasing him and is like,

1699
01:14:47,440 --> 01:14:51,760
"Listen, let's go ahead and set some

1700
01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:53,199
boundaries cuz clearly like lines are

1701
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:55,360
being crossed that don't need to be

1702
01:14:53,199 --> 01:14:58,080
crossed. So, I will find a different

1703
01:14:55,360 --> 01:15:00,560
swim instructor." Like, you know, um,

1704
01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:03,199
we'll just spend less time together. And

1705
01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:05,360
Alex flips out. He's like, "You asked

1706
01:15:03,199 --> 01:15:08,880
me. I always follow through on my

1707
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:11,920
commitments, like whatever." Um, and

1708
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:13,199
he's like, "You can't have both, man."

1709
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:15,040
Right? And then he's like, "No one's

1710
01:15:13,199 --> 01:15:17,760
going to take what's mine." And she's

1711
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:20,080
like, "What the [ __ ] are you talking

1712
01:15:17,760 --> 01:15:22,880
about? What is happening right now?" And

1713
01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:24,480
so then her boss comes over because Alex

1714
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:26,719
is getting loud. Like he's getting

1715
01:15:24,480 --> 01:15:28,000
angry. And so the boss comes over and

1716
01:15:26,719 --> 01:15:29,440
she's like, "I swear to God if you make

1717
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:31,760
me lose my job." And he's like, "What's

1718
01:15:29,440 --> 01:15:33,600
the most expensive painting in here? Do

1719
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:35,280
you get commission?" And he spends

1720
01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:38,960
$40,000.

1721
01:15:35,280 --> 01:15:40,880
And he's like, "For no reason." And he's

1722
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:42,480
like, "We're really going to learn to

1723
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:44,960
swim now. I'll see you at the pool

1724
01:15:42,480 --> 01:15:47,120
tomorrow. And like

1725
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:50,320
what?

1726
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:52,239
Oh, Alex. So, he takes her to a hotel

1727
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:55,120
pool.

1728
01:15:52,239 --> 01:15:57,199
She does pretty well until she doesn't

1729
01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:58,719
like she's she gets in the water, but

1730
01:15:57,199 --> 01:16:01,199
like when she puts her face in the

1731
01:15:58,719 --> 01:16:05,280
water, she starts to panic. And so, she

1732
01:16:01,199 --> 01:16:06,800
blacks out and Alex like gets her out of

1733
01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:09,760
the pool and she kind of comes to in his

1734
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:12,320
arms. Um, and he's telling her that

1735
01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:14,159
she's safe. um that they'll try again

1736
01:16:12,320 --> 01:16:18,080
another day, that she did a great job,

1737
01:16:14,159 --> 01:16:20,320
that she's going to be okay. Um and then

1738
01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:24,159
for some reason, Ava at this point asks

1739
01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:26,239
him to kiss her. Um and she's like, "I

1740
01:16:24,159 --> 01:16:28,719
know what you're into." And she like

1741
01:16:26,239 --> 01:16:32,320
starts naming off all the things that

1742
01:16:28,719 --> 01:16:35,440
Meline said. And she's like, "Maybe I'm

1743
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:38,239
into that, too." And it's like, "What? I

1744
01:16:35,440 --> 01:16:41,520
thought we were having a flashback.

1745
01:16:38,239 --> 01:16:44,000
Now we're getting it.

1746
01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:45,920
So,

1747
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:48,320
it's fine. It's fine. Everything's fine.

1748
01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:51,880
It's okay. It's all okay. It's self

1749
01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:51,880
soothing. Or

1750
01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:56,960
Well, it's not really self soothing, is

1751
01:16:54,000 --> 01:17:00,080
it? Well, maybe. Depends on your

1752
01:16:56,960 --> 01:17:02,960
definition of self soothing. Depends on

1753
01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:05,600
your definition of self, I guess. So,

1754
01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:07,679
Alex hauls her up to a room in the hotel

1755
01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:11,199
um and tells her to get on her knees.

1756
01:17:07,679 --> 01:17:12,719
Um, he just had a room in No, he like

1757
01:17:11,199 --> 01:17:15,679
went to the desk and is like, "Give me

1758
01:17:12,719 --> 01:17:19,120
your best room or whatever." Hauls her

1759
01:17:15,679 --> 01:17:22,239
up there because I'm so rich. I want the

1760
01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:25,040
best room for this 2hour romp. You know,

1761
01:17:22,239 --> 01:17:26,400
this gorgeous Ukrainian face. I forgot

1762
01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:30,400
to mention he's Ukrainian. It's not

1763
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:34,800
really relevant, but his uncle is like

1764
01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:36,640
first generation. So, but anyway, so

1765
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:40,159
lots of face [ __ ] He comes all over

1766
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:42,239
her face. Um, and then he eats her out

1767
01:17:40,159 --> 01:17:45,520
from behind, starts calling her a little

1768
01:17:42,239 --> 01:17:47,920
[ __ ] and then he bangs her, and then

1769
01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:50,000
he's like, "I can't see her face as

1770
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:54,400
she's coming. Unacceptable." And flips

1771
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:57,199
her over. Um, and it was just Meline.

1772
01:17:54,400 --> 01:18:00,960
Yes. And then he kisses her, so it

1773
01:17:57,199 --> 01:18:04,640
really was just Meline. Um, and so then,

1774
01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:06,560
um, Alex realizes that he is [ __ ] cuz

1775
01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:08,000
she's like, "You broke the rules." And

1776
01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:12,159
he's like, "The rules don't apply to

1777
01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:15,280
you." Like, okay. Oh, Alex. So, they

1778
01:18:12,159 --> 01:18:17,920
[ __ ] all weekend. Um, they agree to be

1779
01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:20,320
exclusive and agree that they are going

1780
01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:22,800
to tell her brother in person when he

1781
01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:24,960
comes home for Christmas. So, at this

1782
01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:27,440
point, it's nearing

1783
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:28,480
Thanksgiving. Okay. Thank you. You knew

1784
01:18:27,440 --> 01:18:32,960
that. You knew that was a coming

1785
01:18:28,480 --> 01:18:35,360
question. I did know that. Um, so um

1786
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:38,560
I mean that's a bit of time. A lot can

1787
01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:40,159
happen between before Thanksgiving and a

1788
01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:42,080
Christmas visit. And they also don't

1789
01:18:40,159 --> 01:18:44,239
want to be shitty and like tell him

1790
01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:46,640
while he's in another country. Like they

1791
01:18:44,239 --> 01:18:48,239
they it's a face to face conversation,

1792
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:49,440
but they are also a little bit putting

1793
01:18:48,239 --> 01:18:54,000
it off cuz they know he's going to be

1794
01:18:49,440 --> 01:18:55,600
pissed. So again, days later, Ava goes

1795
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:57,760
over to her dad's house cuz it's his

1796
01:18:55,600 --> 01:19:00,400
birthday. She takes him a cake and they

1797
01:18:57,760 --> 01:19:03,040
just eat in awkward silence. And she

1798
01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:04,719
realizes that like they have nothing to

1799
01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:06,400
talk about without her brother there.

1800
01:19:04,719 --> 01:19:08,080
Like this is the first time they've been

1801
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:10,400
oneon-one

1802
01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:13,840
that she can really remember. And she's

1803
01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:16,800
like, "Oh, this is brutal actually. Like

1804
01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:18,880
this really sucks." Um, and she's like,

1805
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:20,800
"I kind of feel like he hates me." Like

1806
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:23,199
I know he doesn't, but like it's just

1807
01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:25,120
weird, you know?

1808
01:19:23,199 --> 01:19:28,080
So,

1809
01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:30,560
um, then there's kind of a montage of

1810
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:33,360
Alex and Ava dating. They go to the fall

1811
01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:37,520
festival. They're banging in bathrooms,

1812
01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:39,600
you know, as you do. Um, young love. And

1813
01:19:37,520 --> 01:19:41,920
we come to Thanksgiving. They go to her

1814
01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:44,000
dad's for Thanksgiving. They're keeping

1815
01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:46,800
their relationship a secret from dad as

1816
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:48,960
well. Mhm. Um,

1817
01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:50,800
and Ava

1818
01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:53,440
wakes from a nightmare. She hasn't

1819
01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:56,960
really had them since she's been um

1820
01:19:53,440 --> 01:19:59,199
sleeping with Alex. Um but she has a

1821
01:19:56,960 --> 01:20:01,360
nightmare and she goes out to the lake

1822
01:19:59,199 --> 01:20:04,800
behind the house like kind of in the

1823
01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:07,520
middle of the night um and or at like

1824
01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:10,159
3:00 in the morning or whatever. Call

1825
01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:13,840
that the middle of the night. Yeah. Oh

1826
01:20:10,159 --> 01:20:16,239
no, actually it's 4:44. That's like a

1827
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:18,480
recurring thing. It's 4:44 that she

1828
01:20:16,239 --> 01:20:20,480
wakes up most nights. So her dad finds

1829
01:20:18,480 --> 01:20:23,920
her out at the lake and she starts to

1830
01:20:20,480 --> 01:20:25,440
panic and um

1831
01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:28,719
Ava

1832
01:20:25,440 --> 01:20:30,719
like fully freaks out when her dad like

1833
01:20:28,719 --> 01:20:32,239
is like, "Ava, like why are you out

1834
01:20:30,719 --> 01:20:36,080
here? Like are you okay? What's going

1835
01:20:32,239 --> 01:20:39,440
on?" Mhm. So Ava recovered her memories

1836
01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:42,239
apparently. Like as she was standing out

1837
01:20:39,440 --> 01:20:45,360
there for like 2 hours in the cold, she

1838
01:20:42,239 --> 01:20:48,400
recovered her memories. And so, so her

1839
01:20:45,360 --> 01:20:49,840
they stayed in the the house like is it

1840
01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:51,600
is it the same body of water? I'm

1841
01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:53,199
interpreting that correctly. Yeah, I

1842
01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:55,280
think so. So, it was a little bit

1843
01:20:53,199 --> 01:20:56,719
confusing cuz it was like we were at the

1844
01:20:55,280 --> 01:20:58,320
lake house and then it was like we were

1845
01:20:56,719 --> 01:21:00,239
at the house. So, I don't know if they

1846
01:20:58,320 --> 01:21:03,199
had a house that was on a lake and also

1847
01:21:00,239 --> 01:21:05,360
had a lakehouse or if you're my parents,

1848
01:21:03,199 --> 01:21:08,000
you have a lake house and then you just

1849
01:21:05,360 --> 01:21:09,040
move into it full time, right? And then

1850
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:11,600
and then I'm like, well, it is a

1851
01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:13,840
lakehouse but now it's just the house.

1852
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:15,679
You just live

1853
01:21:13,840 --> 01:21:18,640
45 minutes from the nearest grocery

1854
01:21:15,679 --> 01:21:21,280
store, right? Yeah. It is also a

1855
01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:23,920
lakehouse, but also kind of an

1856
01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:25,679
inconveniently placed house house. House

1857
01:21:23,920 --> 01:21:29,920
house. Yeah. So, I don't know. But

1858
01:21:25,679 --> 01:21:32,159
regardless, okay. Um, she gets home with

1859
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:34,080
Alex and

1860
01:21:32,159 --> 01:21:36,320
she's like, "Listen, I recovered my

1861
01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:37,840
memories. Um, it wasn't my mom that

1862
01:21:36,320 --> 01:21:41,360
pushed me in the lake when I was five.

1863
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:44,080
It was my dad." Right? So Ava decides to

1864
01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:46,400
confront her dad in Alex's office. So

1865
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:49,120
several days go by and Alex puts

1866
01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:50,960
together like a whole thing so that Ava

1867
01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:54,480
can be safe when she brings this up with

1868
01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:57,679
her dad. Mhm. So her dad initially is

1869
01:21:54,480 --> 01:21:59,040
like, "Sweetheart, no. Like of course I

1870
01:21:57,679 --> 01:22:00,960
wouldn't. Like you must be

1871
01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:03,760
misremembering that, sweetheart. I love

1872
01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:06,239
you." Right. Like he's whatever. Um and

1873
01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:09,920
then Alex is like

1874
01:22:06,239 --> 01:22:14,320
I have evidence. And what? Yeah,

1875
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:17,120
apparently he has evidence of her dad

1876
01:22:14,320 --> 01:22:19,440
running a paternity test on both her and

1877
01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:22,719
her brother and finding out that Ava was

1878
01:22:19,440 --> 01:22:25,440
not his biological daughter. And so

1879
01:22:22,719 --> 01:22:27,920
that's what triggered the divorce

1880
01:22:25,440 --> 01:22:30,239
proceedings.

1881
01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:32,639
And so he's like, "No, I have evidence

1882
01:22:30,239 --> 01:22:34,320
that like you knew Ava was never yours,

1883
01:22:32,639 --> 01:22:35,840
like blah blah blah blah blah." And

1884
01:22:34,320 --> 01:22:39,360
there's like some other stuff he has. Is

1885
01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:42,159
Ava learning this in real time? Yeah.

1886
01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:45,520
So, Alex didn't tell her that. Her dad

1887
01:22:42,159 --> 01:22:48,080
said it. Alex didn't out him like that.

1888
01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:49,760
Um, but she is learning all of this. I

1889
01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:52,000
think Alex probably had a plan to tell

1890
01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:55,040
her a little more gently later. Um, but

1891
01:22:52,000 --> 01:23:01,040
her brother is their father's biological

1892
01:22:55,040 --> 01:23:04,639
son. Okay. So, the dad essentially um uh

1893
01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:06,960
confesses to everything. Um,

1894
01:23:04,639 --> 01:23:10,560
it's just him and Ava. Alex left the

1895
01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:12,400
room. Um, and he's like, "Yeah, I wanted

1896
01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:14,159
to punish your mother for cheating on

1897
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:16,480
me. This was seemed like the best way to

1898
01:23:14,159 --> 01:23:19,520
do it. I didn't want to raise like some

1899
01:23:16,480 --> 01:23:22,400
other man's child anyway." Um, a literal

1900
01:23:19,520 --> 01:23:24,159
human, but okay. Yeah. And also, he's

1901
01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:26,000
just a terrible person. And he also

1902
01:23:24,159 --> 01:23:27,600
confesses that he tried to kill her a

1903
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:30,639
second time when she was nine. Like

1904
01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:34,239
tried to smother her and her brother

1905
01:23:30,639 --> 01:23:36,480
came home from school early. And so he

1906
01:23:34,239 --> 01:23:39,040
smothered her pretty significantly to

1907
01:23:36,480 --> 01:23:41,760
the point where when she came too, she

1908
01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:43,840
did not remember anything before the age

1909
01:23:41,760 --> 01:23:46,239
of nine.

1910
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:47,679
So that's why she lost her memory was

1911
01:23:46,239 --> 01:23:49,440
because her dad tried to kill her a

1912
01:23:47,679 --> 01:23:52,719
second time.

1913
01:23:49,440 --> 01:23:54,639
So Alex also has evidence that he'd been

1914
01:23:52,719 --> 01:23:57,920
committing fraud through his business

1915
01:23:54,639 --> 01:23:59,440
for quite some time and he had the FBI

1916
01:23:57,920 --> 01:24:04,400
there

1917
01:23:59,440 --> 01:24:07,199
listening in. And also Josh is there. So

1918
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:09,040
that's part of why it took so long to

1919
01:24:07,199 --> 01:24:11,920
like have this confrontation. They were

1920
01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:14,159
getting the feds and they also had Josh

1921
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:17,920
come back from South America. And so

1922
01:24:14,159 --> 01:24:21,120
then Josh punches his dad in the face.

1923
01:24:17,920 --> 01:24:25,040
So Ava confesses that she has feelings

1924
01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:29,120
for Alex. Um wait wait wait.

1925
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:31,280
It it's it's so disjointed and I really

1926
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:32,880
do think it reads that way. Like I don't

1927
01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:35,760
think it's just my notes. Like I thought

1928
01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:38,560
maybe it was my notes. Well, I'm like so

1929
01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:41,360
Josh, you saw your dad try to kill your

1930
01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:42,880
sister or he just interrupted and she

1931
01:24:41,360 --> 01:24:44,560
was passed out. She just happened to

1932
01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:47,520
come home and was like, "Hey, Dad, I'm

1933
01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:49,760
home." or whatever. Or he was mid

1934
01:24:47,520 --> 01:24:54,320
strangle. Yeah. Or mid smother,

1935
01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:56,800
whatever. Um, so sorry. No, no, that's

1936
01:24:54,320 --> 01:25:00,960
okay cuz it is it felt confusing to

1937
01:24:56,800 --> 01:25:04,480
read. Um, so she tells Alex that she

1938
01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:06,960
loves him and he responds, "You are the

1939
01:25:04,480 --> 01:25:09,760
light to my dark." But he does not like

1940
01:25:06,960 --> 01:25:12,400
reciprocate the love.

1941
01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:15,600
So, Alex, we cut to him. He's getting

1942
01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:18,480
closer to vengeance for his family. Um,

1943
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:22,400
when he discovers that his uncle that

1944
01:25:18,480 --> 01:25:24,800
raised him also betrayed him.

1945
01:25:22,400 --> 01:25:27,440
I don't remember how. It's some kind of

1946
01:25:24,800 --> 01:25:29,920
thing with the business they run. Ava's

1947
01:25:27,440 --> 01:25:31,520
waiting for Alex at a restaurant and he

1948
01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:33,440
is super late. We're talking like an

1949
01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:35,760
hour and a half late to the point where

1950
01:25:33,440 --> 01:25:38,159
I'm like that's how you can tell that

1951
01:25:35,760 --> 01:25:39,679
she is 22 because I'd have done been

1952
01:25:38,159 --> 01:25:42,639
gone. I was going to say what's your

1953
01:25:39,679 --> 01:25:45,679
time limit before you're out.

1954
01:25:42,639 --> 01:25:47,920
Well, I feel like probably half an hour

1955
01:25:45,679 --> 01:25:52,400
if I haven't heard from you. Half an

1956
01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:53,840
hour. Yeah. If I if I pushing it, right?

1957
01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:55,520
If I hear from you and you're like, "Oh

1958
01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:57,600
my god, there was an accident. It's

1959
01:25:55,520 --> 01:26:00,800
taking me a while. I'm still on my way.

1960
01:25:57,600 --> 01:26:02,080
I'll get there. Then I'll wait. But

1961
01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:04,560
like, and I feel like I'm only giving

1962
01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:07,199
you a half hour because my outreaches

1963
01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:09,120
probably didn't start until 5 to 10

1964
01:26:07,199 --> 01:26:11,520
after, right? So, if I if I reach out at

1965
01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:13,520
the 10-minute mark, that's a whole 20

1966
01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:15,600
minutes to wait for a response. And if I

1967
01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:17,440
haven't heard from you, I'm not staying.

1968
01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:20,480
Certainly not staying for an hour and a

1969
01:26:17,440 --> 01:26:23,679
half. Definitely not. So, he is

1970
01:26:20,480 --> 01:26:27,920
immediately a douchebag. Um when he gets

1971
01:26:23,679 --> 01:26:30,080
there. Yeah. And um then he explains

1972
01:26:27,920 --> 01:26:32,719
that his phone died and he couldn't call

1973
01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:35,760
and he's sorry. He's just had a really

1974
01:26:32,719 --> 01:26:38,480
tough day. His meeting went long. His

1975
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:40,159
phone died. Whatever. Blah blah blah. I

1976
01:26:38,480 --> 01:26:42,239
hate it when my meeting goes long and my

1977
01:26:40,159 --> 01:26:44,400
phone dies. It absolutely gives me an

1978
01:26:42,239 --> 01:26:48,080
excuse to be an [ __ ] to my husband.

1979
01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:49,440
Yeah, you get it. Yeah. So Ava um like

1980
01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:51,440
they actually wind up having a really

1981
01:26:49,440 --> 01:26:54,480
nice time. Ava got a photography

1982
01:26:51,440 --> 01:26:56,000
fellowship in New York. Um, and Alex is

1983
01:26:54,480 --> 01:26:57,679
like, "Oh, well, I'll go with you. Like,

1984
01:26:56,000 --> 01:26:58,880
we have an office in New York. I'll just

1985
01:26:57,679 --> 01:27:02,159
start working out of the New York

1986
01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:05,600
office. Like, this is great." Um, and

1987
01:27:02,159 --> 01:27:08,320
things are good until his phone goes off

1988
01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:11,600
and she's like, "I thought you said your

1989
01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:13,679
phone was was dead."

1990
01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:15,760
And um, I mean, he could have charged

1991
01:27:13,679 --> 01:27:17,600
it, but it seemed He's like, "Oh, I

1992
01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:20,080
charged it in the car." And she's like,

1993
01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:21,920
"So, you couldn't plug it in in the car

1994
01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:24,400
and then call me to tell me you were on

1995
01:27:21,920 --> 01:27:27,360
the way? or text me back to say you were

1996
01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:30,639
on the way. Like,

1997
01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:34,159
why were you really late? And he refuses

1998
01:27:30,639 --> 01:27:35,920
to answer her. Um, and then he's like,

1999
01:27:34,159 --> 01:27:37,440
um,

2000
01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:39,920
I'm trying to make sure you have

2001
01:27:37,440 --> 01:27:43,520
plausible deniability, which is super

2002
01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:45,600
weird, but okay. Um, so she leaves

2003
01:27:43,520 --> 01:27:47,600
really mad.

2004
01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:48,960
Al, so she just leaves. Yeah. She's

2005
01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:51,199
like, "Yeah, I'm not doing this with

2006
01:27:48,960 --> 01:27:52,800
you. Like, this is actually horshit. Um,

2007
01:27:51,199 --> 01:27:54,239
I was supposed to be celebrating that I

2008
01:27:52,800 --> 01:27:56,239
got this incredible fellowship

2009
01:27:54,239 --> 01:27:57,760
opportunity that I've been dreaming

2010
01:27:56,239 --> 01:28:02,320
about. Like, I'm not doing this with

2011
01:27:57,760 --> 01:28:03,679
you. Um, and Alex finally Sorry, I go

2012
01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:06,159
ahead. Go ahead. Did they tell Josh

2013
01:28:03,679 --> 01:28:08,159
about them when he was there to take

2014
01:28:06,159 --> 01:28:12,239
down their dad? You know, I don't

2015
01:28:08,159 --> 01:28:13,440
remember. Okay. I don't think so. Um, I

2016
01:28:12,239 --> 01:28:15,360
don't think so. They're like, "No, we

2017
01:28:13,440 --> 01:28:18,800
should still sit on this." Yeah, let's

2018
01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:20,960
hold it. So, um, Alex, um, a little bit

2019
01:28:18,800 --> 01:28:22,719
later finally has confirmation that it

2020
01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:26,719
was actually his uncle that killed his

2021
01:28:22,719 --> 01:28:31,120
family. Um, and plot twist, the whole

2022
01:28:26,719 --> 01:28:33,199
time he thought that it was Ava's dad

2023
01:28:31,120 --> 01:28:35,360
who had killed his family cuz apparently

2024
01:28:33,199 --> 01:28:38,480
they were in both in construction or

2025
01:28:35,360 --> 01:28:41,199
something. So that's why he befriended

2026
01:28:38,480 --> 01:28:42,960
Josh in the first place. That's why he

2027
01:28:41,199 --> 01:28:45,440
got himself invited over to their house

2028
01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:48,639
for Thanksgiving and [ __ ] was all

2029
01:28:45,440 --> 01:28:50,560
because he believed that their dad

2030
01:28:48,639 --> 01:28:54,080
killed his family and he was getting his

2031
01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:57,120
revenge on him. But it wasn't their dad,

2032
01:28:54,080 --> 01:29:00,880
it was his uncle.

2033
01:28:57,120 --> 01:29:02,400
The [ __ ] you doing? Yeah, right. So Ava

2034
01:29:00,880 --> 01:29:04,480
um

2035
01:29:02,400 --> 01:29:06,400
confronts Alex about him acting weird.

2036
01:29:04,480 --> 01:29:08,880
She's like, "You're being really weird.

2037
01:29:06,400 --> 01:29:12,639
like every time I try to talk to you,

2038
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:16,400
it's really bizarre. Um,

2039
01:29:12,639 --> 01:29:18,639
and at this point, Alex is working out

2040
01:29:16,400 --> 01:29:21,760
getting his uncle out of their family

2041
01:29:18,639 --> 01:29:24,000
business and taking it back over. Um,

2042
01:29:21,760 --> 01:29:26,480
the uncle finds out that he's been

2043
01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:29,440
dating Ava, so he's all worried about

2044
01:29:26,480 --> 01:29:32,000
the uncle like going after Ava or

2045
01:29:29,440 --> 01:29:34,000
something. It's all very convoluted. He

2046
01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:36,239
lies to Ava and says he's just been

2047
01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:38,080
stressed about transitioning to CEO and

2048
01:29:36,239 --> 01:29:40,159
everything.

2049
01:29:38,080 --> 01:29:43,520
And she's like, "Well, why didn't you

2050
01:29:40,159 --> 01:29:45,360
tell me that you were CEO? Like, it's

2051
01:29:43,520 --> 01:29:47,520
been like a week of you being really

2052
01:29:45,360 --> 01:29:49,040
weird. Like, I I could have supported

2053
01:29:47,520 --> 01:29:51,199
you." And he's like, "I didn't want to

2054
01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:55,199
worry you. It wasn't official. Like,

2055
01:29:51,199 --> 01:29:57,520
super wishy-washy." Ava out here being

2056
01:29:55,199 --> 01:30:00,560
the most levelheaded person in this

2057
01:29:57,520 --> 01:30:03,920
book. For real. For real. Ava does not

2058
01:30:00,560 --> 01:30:07,760
deserve Alex [ __ ]

2059
01:30:03,920 --> 01:30:09,920
Which is why it's incrementally

2060
01:30:07,760 --> 01:30:13,040
different from the books I have

2061
01:30:09,920 --> 01:30:15,199
spiritually read previous to this. Yes.

2062
01:30:13,040 --> 01:30:18,239
Cuz usually the girl is like, "Babe,

2063
01:30:15,199 --> 01:30:21,280
come on." Like, you know, that's just

2064
01:30:18,239 --> 01:30:23,440
him. I love all the pieces, right? And

2065
01:30:21,280 --> 01:30:26,000
there's some of that, but it's much more

2066
01:30:23,440 --> 01:30:28,960
like she's 22 and less like, oh my god,

2067
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:30,639
she's an idiot. Like, it hurts. It hurts

2068
01:30:28,960 --> 01:30:35,040
me.

2069
01:30:30,639 --> 01:30:37,360
So, it's been weeks. Um, and Alex's

2070
01:30:35,040 --> 01:30:39,120
uncle calls him and is like, "Come over

2071
01:30:37,360 --> 01:30:41,440
to the house. I have something to show

2072
01:30:39,120 --> 01:30:45,360
you." Or something. His uncle has

2073
01:30:41,440 --> 01:30:48,320
kidnapped Ava. And one of Ava's friends.

2074
01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:51,760
Alex does a villain speech cuz he's

2075
01:30:48,320 --> 01:30:53,920
trying to like like

2076
01:30:51,760 --> 01:30:56,639
buy time because there's somebody with

2077
01:30:53,920 --> 01:30:59,920
like a knife to Ava's neck. And the

2078
01:30:56,639 --> 01:31:04,320
uncle is sitting there being a weird

2079
01:30:59,920 --> 01:31:06,719
overlord person. And so he's like, "I

2080
01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:09,120
never loved Ava. Her brother was leaving

2081
01:31:06,719 --> 01:31:11,040
the country and I needed I still needed

2082
01:31:09,120 --> 01:31:14,239
to be close to the family. I had to find

2083
01:31:11,040 --> 01:31:16,239
a way. Like she bought it hook, line,

2084
01:31:14,239 --> 01:31:19,760
and sinker and like all of this [ __ ]

2085
01:31:16,239 --> 01:31:22,719
right?" Um

2086
01:31:19,760 --> 01:31:25,920
and so ultimately he winds up killing

2087
01:31:22,719 --> 01:31:28,239
his uncle. Um, and the guy that

2088
01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:30,719
kidnapped Ava and her friend, he like

2089
01:31:28,239 --> 01:31:32,480
goes bonkers.

2090
01:31:30,719 --> 01:31:35,360
So, the cops show up cuz they touched

2091
01:31:32,480 --> 01:31:37,440
what was his? You get it? So, the cops

2092
01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:40,880
show up and Ava is in a days. She

2093
01:31:37,440 --> 01:31:43,600
confronts Alex like, "Was what you said

2094
01:31:40,880 --> 01:31:45,920
true? Like, this has been a lot today if

2095
01:31:43,600 --> 01:31:47,679
I'm honest and so just want to confirm

2096
01:31:45,920 --> 01:31:49,199
like, is this what you really meant?"

2097
01:31:47,679 --> 01:31:51,280
And he's like, "I warned you,

2098
01:31:49,199 --> 01:31:52,880
sweetheart. like you should have let go

2099
01:31:51,280 --> 01:31:56,080
of your fantasies, but you threw

2100
01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:58,400
yourself at me over and over again.

2101
01:31:56,080 --> 01:32:01,480
You made it too easy. Like all that kind

2102
01:31:58,400 --> 01:32:01,480
of [ __ ]

2103
01:32:01,600 --> 01:32:07,440
So she's like, "Okay." And turns around

2104
01:32:04,719 --> 01:32:08,639
and gets into

2105
01:32:07,440 --> 01:32:10,800
another one of the friends showed up

2106
01:32:08,639 --> 01:32:12,880
with a ride. She like just gets into the

2107
01:32:10,800 --> 01:32:15,679
car. She's like, "Okie dokie." And has

2108
01:32:12,880 --> 01:32:17,520
like no response until they are like

2109
01:32:15,679 --> 01:32:19,920
significantly away and then she has a

2110
01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:22,159
complete breakdown.

2111
01:32:19,920 --> 01:32:24,639
And it turns out the cops weren't real

2112
01:32:22,159 --> 01:32:28,800
that showed up. They were Alex's staff

2113
01:32:24,639 --> 01:32:31,280
and he just burns the house down.

2114
01:32:28,800 --> 01:32:35,280
Took care of that real quick. Capital

2115
01:32:31,280 --> 01:32:37,440
our revenge, baby. Uh-huh. So, um, he's

2116
01:32:35,280 --> 01:32:41,440
super distraught that Ava hates him, but

2117
01:32:37,440 --> 01:32:44,960
he's like, "This is for the best." Um,

2118
01:32:41,440 --> 01:32:47,199
and so then Josh shows up later, like a

2119
01:32:44,960 --> 01:32:50,320
couple of weeks later, um, and beats the

2120
01:32:47,199 --> 01:32:52,880
[ __ ] out of Alex and he just like takes

2121
01:32:50,320 --> 01:32:55,760
it. This is what I deserve. He's living

2122
01:32:52,880 --> 01:32:58,800
in the self-loathing. Yes. It's 2 months

2123
01:32:55,760 --> 01:33:00,639
later. Ava's hella depressed. Yeah,

2124
01:32:58,800 --> 01:33:02,719
Ava's super depressed, but she decides

2125
01:33:00,639 --> 01:33:04,880
that she's going to go swimming. Like,

2126
01:33:02,719 --> 01:33:06,480
Alex is not going to take this from her.

2127
01:33:04,880 --> 01:33:08,639
She's going to make it happen. And I'm

2128
01:33:06,480 --> 01:33:12,080
assuming that Josh showed up to beat up

2129
01:33:08,639 --> 01:33:14,320
Alex on Ava's behalf. She told him. Mhm.

2130
01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:16,639
Okay. So, their friendship is now over.

2131
01:33:14,320 --> 01:33:18,960
Yep. Yep. He's like, "I would have

2132
01:33:16,639 --> 01:33:21,520
forgiven you if you just came after me.

2133
01:33:18,960 --> 01:33:24,480
Why'd you pull Ava into it?" Like, it's

2134
01:33:21,520 --> 01:33:26,400
all that stuff. So, then it's 2 and 1/2

2135
01:33:24,480 --> 01:33:28,000
months later. So, it's been 4 and 1/2

2136
01:33:26,400 --> 01:33:29,920
months.

2137
01:33:28,000 --> 01:33:32,400
One of Ava's friends shows up to

2138
01:33:29,920 --> 01:33:35,199
confront Alex. Mhm. He's dayd drinking

2139
01:33:32,400 --> 01:33:39,600
in his office and generally not

2140
01:33:35,199 --> 01:33:42,880
thriving. Like he's not doing okay. So

2141
01:33:39,600 --> 01:33:47,040
the friend is like, "Ava's not okay." Um

2142
01:33:42,880 --> 01:33:51,840
and she is moving to London today in an

2143
01:33:47,040 --> 01:33:54,880
hour. Get to the airport. So she's like,

2144
01:33:51,840 --> 01:33:56,480
"I know your feelings were true." Okay.

2145
01:33:54,880 --> 01:33:59,360
This wasn't Jules. This was a different

2146
01:33:56,480 --> 01:34:01,120
friend. Yeah, cuz Jules knows better.

2147
01:33:59,360 --> 01:34:04,800
Jules would never

2148
01:34:01,120 --> 01:34:07,199
So, Alex tries to get there in time. Um,

2149
01:34:04,800 --> 01:34:09,120
like buys a ticket on his way to the

2150
01:34:07,199 --> 01:34:14,159
airport so he can get through security,

2151
01:34:09,120 --> 01:34:16,560
races to the gate, she's gone. Um, Ava

2152
01:34:14,159 --> 01:34:19,920
switched her photography fellowship from

2153
01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:22,800
New York to London. So, she moved to

2154
01:34:19,920 --> 01:34:26,560
London and she is living her best life.

2155
01:34:22,800 --> 01:34:28,880
Alex shows up and says that he'd had

2156
01:34:26,560 --> 01:34:31,520
someone following her to keep her safe.

2157
01:34:28,880 --> 01:34:34,320
Um, but he was keep taking over now.

2158
01:34:31,520 --> 01:34:35,600
He's here now. [ __ ] hell. She shuts

2159
01:34:34,320 --> 01:34:37,040
him down. She's like, "I don't know why

2160
01:34:35,600 --> 01:34:38,960
you're here. This is really [ __ ]

2161
01:34:37,040 --> 01:34:40,880
stupid." And he's like, "I'm not giving

2162
01:34:38,960 --> 01:34:44,080
up."

2163
01:34:40,880 --> 01:34:46,800
Four weeks he follows her and she does

2164
01:34:44,080 --> 01:34:49,280
not speak to him. But he waits outside

2165
01:34:46,800 --> 01:34:51,600
of her flat every day and walks her to

2166
01:34:49,280 --> 01:34:54,639
class. Waits outside her class every day

2167
01:34:51,600 --> 01:34:56,480
and walks her home every single day. Um,

2168
01:34:54,639 --> 01:34:58,400
and he's sending her a bunch of gifts,

2169
01:34:56,480 --> 01:34:59,840
blah blah blah blah blah. Does she have

2170
01:34:58,400 --> 01:35:01,920
friends? Does she go out outside of

2171
01:34:59,840 --> 01:35:03,920
this? Can she does like go to pubs and

2172
01:35:01,920 --> 01:35:05,920
stuff and people are like, "Who is this

2173
01:35:03,920 --> 01:35:09,120
fellow?" And she's like following you.

2174
01:35:05,920 --> 01:35:13,920
Don't worry about it.

2175
01:35:09,120 --> 01:35:16,880
Nobody don't worry about it. So,

2176
01:35:13,920 --> 01:35:19,040
um he she confronts him. She's like,

2177
01:35:16,880 --> 01:35:20,400
"Why are you doing this? Like, don't you

2178
01:35:19,040 --> 01:35:22,800
have a business to run? Like, why the

2179
01:35:20,400 --> 01:35:24,800
[ __ ] are you here?" And he swears that

2180
01:35:22,800 --> 01:35:27,440
he is never going to stop trying to win

2181
01:35:24,800 --> 01:35:32,239
her back. He resigned as CEO to be with

2182
01:35:27,440 --> 01:35:35,520
her in London. And Ava is unimpressed.

2183
01:35:32,239 --> 01:35:38,480
Good. She remains unmoved. Good

2184
01:35:35,520 --> 01:35:40,880
throughout that. I hope this book ends

2185
01:35:38,480 --> 01:35:45,920
with them not together.

2186
01:35:40,880 --> 01:35:48,800
Kind of. But a year later,

2187
01:35:45,920 --> 01:35:52,320
Ava is moved. My notes say Ava is not

2188
01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:53,600
moved. One year later, Ava is moved. Has

2189
01:35:52,320 --> 01:35:57,840
he been following her? He's been

2190
01:35:53,600 --> 01:35:59,679
following her for a year. So, he's been

2191
01:35:57,840 --> 01:36:01,760
spending time with her any way that he

2192
01:35:59,679 --> 01:36:04,480
can. Whether it's walking her to and

2193
01:36:01,760 --> 01:36:06,320
from class and stuff or she got like

2194
01:36:04,480 --> 01:36:08,080
furniture delivered and he volunteered

2195
01:36:06,320 --> 01:36:11,440
to put it together just so he could be

2196
01:36:08,080 --> 01:36:14,000
in her presence. Like, he has been

2197
01:36:11,440 --> 01:36:15,760
showing up every day with no

2198
01:36:14,000 --> 01:36:18,480
expectation.

2199
01:36:15,760 --> 01:36:22,480
So, this is her final art exhibition

2200
01:36:18,480 --> 01:36:25,600
that's going on. And um he buys all of

2201
01:36:22,480 --> 01:36:28,800
her photographs, right? He buys out her

2202
01:36:25,600 --> 01:36:30,800
whole collection. And then he gets on

2203
01:36:28,800 --> 01:36:33,360
stage and I I didn't put it in my notes

2204
01:36:30,800 --> 01:36:35,520
cuz it didn't feel relevant, but she's

2205
01:36:33,360 --> 01:36:37,760
into karaoke and has tried to get him to

2206
01:36:35,520 --> 01:36:40,239
sing with her repeatedly and he has said

2207
01:36:37,760 --> 01:36:44,000
no because it's like too vulnerable and

2208
01:36:40,239 --> 01:36:48,400
he would never. And so he serenates her.

2209
01:36:44,000 --> 01:36:51,840
I imagined it akin to Shitz Creek when

2210
01:36:48,400 --> 01:36:54,960
what's his doodle serenades David.

2211
01:36:51,840 --> 01:36:59,679
I was thinking of 10 Things I Hate About

2212
01:36:54,960 --> 01:37:02,159
You. Yes. Same energy, I think. Um, so

2213
01:36:59,679 --> 01:37:04,000
she's into it. They wind up banging in

2214
01:37:02,159 --> 01:37:06,080
the gallery.

2215
01:37:04,000 --> 01:37:08,320
It's the epilogue.

2216
01:37:06,080 --> 01:37:10,480
It's Thanksgiving again. They're

2217
01:37:08,320 --> 01:37:13,280
together and happy and they're having a

2218
01:37:10,480 --> 01:37:15,520
good time in Vermont for vacation. I

2219
01:37:13,280 --> 01:37:17,199
guess her brother still isn't really

2220
01:37:15,520 --> 01:37:19,280
speaking to them. Like he was really

2221
01:37:17,199 --> 01:37:21,520
really hurt by this whole thing and I

2222
01:37:19,280 --> 01:37:25,199
think he had a lot of guilt over the dad

2223
01:37:21,520 --> 01:37:26,960
thing obviously. Mhm. Um so they're

2224
01:37:25,199 --> 01:37:29,119
happy together. They're both working and

2225
01:37:26,960 --> 01:37:32,119
living their best lives and that's the

2226
01:37:29,119 --> 01:37:32,119
end.

2227
01:37:33,520 --> 01:37:37,320
Huh. Yeah.

2228
01:37:41,760 --> 01:37:47,920
I liked the concept of the story because

2229
01:37:44,239 --> 01:37:50,480
it wasn't cookie cutter. Mhm. You know,

2230
01:37:47,920 --> 01:37:53,199
there were I mean it was hella tropey,

2231
01:37:50,480 --> 01:37:55,199
but it wasn't like fully cookie cutter

2232
01:37:53,199 --> 01:37:57,760
in the storyline,

2233
01:37:55,199 --> 01:38:01,280
but it also felt like because of that

2234
01:37:57,760 --> 01:38:03,280
there wasn't enough like

2235
01:38:01,280 --> 01:38:04,960
development of the character. Like their

2236
01:38:03,280 --> 01:38:06,800
whole character was just that they had

2237
01:38:04,960 --> 01:38:08,719
trauma. Like I didn't even get into his

2238
01:38:06,800 --> 01:38:10,480
trauma. Like there's detailed

2239
01:38:08,719 --> 01:38:12,719
descriptions of him witnessing his

2240
01:38:10,480 --> 01:38:14,960
family get murdered. And it felt like

2241
01:38:12,719 --> 01:38:17,040
that's what we were relying on for all

2242
01:38:14,960 --> 01:38:20,480
character development. And it just was

2243
01:38:17,040 --> 01:38:22,000
not it was very like flat if that makes

2244
01:38:20,480 --> 01:38:23,679
sense.

2245
01:38:22,000 --> 01:38:26,560
Yeah. I also I don't know there's

2246
01:38:23,679 --> 01:38:30,000
something about like

2247
01:38:26,560 --> 01:38:33,119
I just don't believe it when someone's

2248
01:38:30,000 --> 01:38:36,480
been a dick for that long that they're

2249
01:38:33,119 --> 01:38:39,119
suddenly like

2250
01:38:36,480 --> 01:38:43,760
I'm going to gravel without any

2251
01:38:39,119 --> 01:38:45,440
expectation indefinitely. Like I mean at

2252
01:38:43,760 --> 01:38:49,360
the end of the book after a full year

2253
01:38:45,440 --> 01:38:51,840
he's like this was my my final push. I

2254
01:38:49,360 --> 01:38:53,360
know you're moving again. Like if you

2255
01:38:51,840 --> 01:38:57,119
tell me to leave you alone I'll leave

2256
01:38:53,360 --> 01:38:59,679
you alone. Like I get it. I'll get the

2257
01:38:57,119 --> 01:39:03,199
message or whatever. But it was very

2258
01:38:59,679 --> 01:39:05,360
half-hearted. It felt like

2259
01:39:03,199 --> 01:39:08,960
he wouldn't have gotten the message.

2260
01:39:05,360 --> 01:39:11,840
This man has chosen what he wanted to do

2261
01:39:08,960 --> 01:39:16,320
at every point regardless of really how

2262
01:39:11,840 --> 01:39:19,679
it impacted Ava. Correct. Yep.

2263
01:39:16,320 --> 01:39:22,880
And like I just quite frankly, Alex, I

2264
01:39:19,679 --> 01:39:25,040
don't believe you. Well, I think that

2265
01:39:22,880 --> 01:39:27,440
that is one thing I did appreciate about

2266
01:39:25,040 --> 01:39:30,239
this book was that

2267
01:39:27,440 --> 01:39:33,119
we didn't we didn't get to see the year

2268
01:39:30,239 --> 01:39:35,199
that he followed her, but there was a

2269
01:39:33,119 --> 01:39:36,960
year where he was putting in the time.

2270
01:39:35,199 --> 01:39:39,679
And that feels like a commitment to

2271
01:39:36,960 --> 01:39:42,800
change more so than in other books where

2272
01:39:39,679 --> 01:39:45,280
it's like that first 4 week like thing

2273
01:39:42,800 --> 01:39:47,520
or like 3 days or whatever and they're

2274
01:39:45,280 --> 01:39:49,840
like, "You've changed." I'm like, "You

2275
01:39:47,520 --> 01:39:51,679
got on a plane to London. You clearly

2276
01:39:49,840 --> 01:39:53,600
love me." Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I will say

2277
01:39:51,679 --> 01:39:55,440
committing. He took a European vacation.

2278
01:39:53,600 --> 01:39:58,080
He did. Like, come on. Doing it for a

2279
01:39:55,440 --> 01:39:59,840
full year. Yeah. But I'm like, I don't

2280
01:39:58,080 --> 01:40:02,000
believe that that's what you do after

2281
01:39:59,840 --> 01:40:04,480
like the rest of this book. No part of

2282
01:40:02,000 --> 01:40:07,040
that is congruent with your behavior

2283
01:40:04,480 --> 01:40:09,440
anywhere else. I almost would have

2284
01:40:07,040 --> 01:40:11,600
rather the all the betrayal and the

2285
01:40:09,440 --> 01:40:13,199
intrigue and all that stuff. I almost

2286
01:40:11,600 --> 01:40:16,159
prefer if that had been at the beginning

2287
01:40:13,199 --> 01:40:17,600
of the book and like the year was him

2288
01:40:16,159 --> 01:40:21,040
winning her back. Like I would have

2289
01:40:17,600 --> 01:40:25,119
rather read that character development

2290
01:40:21,040 --> 01:40:28,800
than this plot I think. Um

2291
01:40:25,119 --> 01:40:31,360
but it I didn't hate it. Yeah, that's

2292
01:40:28,800 --> 01:40:33,520
fair. You know,

2293
01:40:31,360 --> 01:40:35,199
cookies. Is that our rating system?

2294
01:40:33,520 --> 01:40:36,880
Yeah, it could be cookies. I was like

2295
01:40:35,199 --> 01:40:39,040
cameras. She's a photographer. But

2296
01:40:36,880 --> 01:40:40,800
cookies. Cookies is good. She made a lot

2297
01:40:39,040 --> 01:40:42,000
of cookies for him. She did make a lot

2298
01:40:40,800 --> 01:40:45,760
of cookies. She gave her a cookie to

2299
01:40:42,000 --> 01:40:48,480
him. Yeah, she did. More than once.

2300
01:40:45,760 --> 01:40:51,520
a lot of times and in kind of shockingly

2301
01:40:48,480 --> 01:40:55,040
public places sometimes.

2302
01:40:51,520 --> 01:40:58,080
Okay. Which, no judgment if you're into

2303
01:40:55,040 --> 01:41:01,840
that. A baker's dozen. A baker's dozen.

2304
01:40:58,080 --> 01:41:04,719
Yes. Okay. So, out of 13 cookies, I

2305
01:41:01,840 --> 01:41:07,760
would give it a

2306
01:41:04,719 --> 01:41:10,960
a seven.

2307
01:41:07,760 --> 01:41:14,159
Yeah. Like a little more than half.

2308
01:41:10,960 --> 01:41:16,560
Yeah. A seven. cuz the plot was

2309
01:41:14,159 --> 01:41:19,520
interesting. Mhm. The characters were

2310
01:41:16,560 --> 01:41:21,679
not like I liked Ava, but there wasn't

2311
01:41:19,520 --> 01:41:23,520
anything really like stand out special

2312
01:41:21,679 --> 01:41:26,159
about her.

2313
01:41:23,520 --> 01:41:28,800
Yeah. You know,

2314
01:41:26,159 --> 01:41:31,360
I feel like this is a book that like you

2315
01:41:28,800 --> 01:41:33,280
read and then because you spiritually

2316
01:41:31,360 --> 01:41:36,320
read so many others like it, you're

2317
01:41:33,280 --> 01:41:38,719
like, "Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I I

2318
01:41:36,320 --> 01:41:42,480
remember that one now." like, "Oh, that

2319
01:41:38,719 --> 01:41:44,400
one with the dad who betrayed them."

2320
01:41:42,480 --> 01:41:47,440
Yeah. Yeah. Like, it doesn't stand out,

2321
01:41:44,400 --> 01:41:50,639
but it's fine. Um, and a lot of the book

2322
01:41:47,440 --> 01:41:53,280
was also devoted to setting up the

2323
01:41:50,639 --> 01:41:55,199
sequels, which I did not address. Um,

2324
01:41:53,280 --> 01:41:58,320
cuz we would have been here for 7 hours.

2325
01:41:55,199 --> 01:42:00,560
So, you know, I I kept it to two. So,

2326
01:41:58,320 --> 01:42:02,880
you're welcome. I don't actually know

2327
01:42:00,560 --> 01:42:05,679
how long we've been here. Me either.

2328
01:42:02,880 --> 01:42:08,239
Okay. Seven out of seven out of 13.

2329
01:42:05,679 --> 01:42:11,199
Final offer. Yep. Let us know how many

2330
01:42:08,239 --> 01:42:13,840
cookies you would rate this. Let us know

2331
01:42:11,199 --> 01:42:15,600
what flavor those cookies are. I'm

2332
01:42:13,840 --> 01:42:18,000
curious. Red velvet is from the book.

2333
01:42:15,600 --> 01:42:20,239
Garlic is also from the book. So, choose

2334
01:42:18,000 --> 01:42:22,639
your own adventure.

2335
01:42:20,239 --> 01:42:26,239
I'm going to choose red velvet if it's

2336
01:42:22,639 --> 01:42:28,960
between the two. Same. Yeah. Yeah. All

2337
01:42:26,239 --> 01:42:30,719
right. Let us know how many cookies you

2338
01:42:28,960 --> 01:42:32,639
would rate it, what flavor those cookies

2339
01:42:30,719 --> 01:42:34,400
are. Don't forget to like, subscribe.

2340
01:42:32,639 --> 01:42:36,560
Please let us know what books you'd like

2341
01:42:34,400 --> 01:42:38,719
us to review in the future. and we'll

2342
01:42:36,560 --> 01:42:41,600
see you next time. Bye, smudsluts. Bye,

2343
01:42:38,719 --> 01:42:44,400
smart puppies. Well, that's it for this

2344
01:42:41,600 --> 01:42:48,239
week, smud [ __ ] We hope it was good

2345
01:42:44,400 --> 01:42:50,320
for you, cuz it sure was great for us.

2346
01:42:48,239 --> 01:42:52,080
If you're digging what we're doing, it

2347
01:42:50,320 --> 01:42:54,239
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2348
01:42:52,080 --> 01:42:56,960
to rate and review the show, wherever

2349
01:42:54,239 --> 01:43:00,560
you're listening right now. Maybe tell

2350
01:42:56,960 --> 01:43:04,000
that sexy someone to lend us an ear. We

2351
01:43:00,560 --> 01:43:06,080
love you, we appreciate you, and we'll

2352
01:43:04,000 --> 01:43:07,340
see you next week.

2353
01:43:06,080 --> 01:43:08,240
Stay

2354
01:43:07,340 --> 01:43:15,919
[Applause]

2355
01:43:08,240 --> 01:43:15,919
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