(upbeat music)
Ah, all right.
You needed the woo-saw.
Yeah, is woo-saw a word?
I have no idea.
Well, you know me in yoga.
Speaking of birds, we do--
Where you going with that?
And we nailed it.
Nailed it.
Try to clear my own name so
people don't think I'm a freak.
It actually started while we were
standing in the water
getting ready to meet our dolphin.
What is happening here?
People like me, really?
The situation, the sit.
You guys are all special, that's great.
Absolutely.
But in general, most
of us are kind of doing
the same thing.
It is not not fair.
Because you chose to
be born with a brain?
Oh, oh, oh, we're not going there.
Kudos, hon, you're doing a fantastic job.
You effing crushed it.
For freaking.
Is when people show you
who they are, believe them.
And we brought that around.
Call back.
(laughing)
Welcome to the Mr. and
Mrs. English Podcast.
I'm Megan.
And I'm Sean.
We're here to talk about
the wild ride of raising kids,
growing careers, keeping life together
in the middle of all the chaos.
So buckle up, because we're all
in this crazy journey together.
All right, we are back.
Back.
It is funny, like 10
seconds before I said we are back,
I'm like, okay, I need to
just take a big sigh here,
one quick moment,
because we just basically
flew into the chairs.
Yeah.
After a work day and running errands
and work day and meetings.
Yeah, I mean, and it was just like,
all right, this is when
it fits in the schedule
and we have X many minutes.
And then of course we had to adjust
things in the studio,
all things that
people didn't know at home,
but you know.
That they'll never know, yeah.
They'll never know, but it was.
No reason to know.
No, but now they know.
But now they kinda know.
I don't know.
So I'm in that head space right now
where it's like, I haven't come down
from just like, go, go, go, going.
Like most of the time
by the time we sit here,
I've already had time to
like, take that deep breath,
center myself, push everything else out,
you know what I mean, how
like, you just kinda reset
yourself a little bit.
Like right now I'm still
on that like, warm down.
Yeah, yeah.
You needed the woo-saw.
Yeah.
Like in between.
Yeah, is woo-saw a word?
I have no idea.
I feel like I've heard it
before, but you just said it.
I mean, I've heard it before, but like,
will Webster consider that part of like,
something to go into the dictionary?
I don't know.
I mean, if that was some yoga thing
or some Asian
inspired relaxation technique
that you've learned over the years.
Well, you know me in
yoga and how much I do yoga.
Yeah.
That I don't like yoga.
Yeah.
But I just.
You can count it on all your claws.
I, yeah.
On all your talons.
I was trying to think
of something in my head
that I could say like,
you can count it all year,
I was gonna say tails.
I'm like, well, I
don't want that to come.
That'd be weird, making this have a tail.
People would be like,
what did she have a tail?
I don't have talons either, bad.
Well, I know what talons
aren't as possible, right?
Like, there was a movie not too long ago,
what was the movie with Jack Flack?
And the guy had a tail in it.
He had like a little tail stub.
I don't know.
The one where he saw her as skinny,
but she was really big in real life.
I've never seen that movie.
What's the name of it though?
You should have the name of it.
It's an old movie.
Kind of, yeah, probably 20 years old.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Gwen's in it, right?
Gwen is Paltrow.
Yeah, yeah, it has.
Anyways, a guy in that had a tail.
So I was like, I don't
really wanna say you have a tail
because people are like,
oh, does she have a tail?
I don't.
I just wanna go out there.
Clarify that really quickly.
You told me to stop telling everybody
that you were legally blind.
Yep, yep.
So I've decided to now throw in,
apparently that you have a tail.
Oh my gosh.
So your choice, which
one would you pick first?
What kind of freak did you marry?
Yeah, well, I guess
that's birds of a feather.
Speaking of birds.
Good, what are you going with that?
I don't really know, but the Grammys.
And should we talk about the birdcage
that was on Lady Gaga's head?
Oh my gosh, sure, go ahead.
Yeah, this is our pop culture segment.
This is the pop culture segment.
I mean, I am not on the
cutting edge of fashion, right?
But I like to be fashionable.
However, the whole woven basket headdress
that Lady Gaga had
that was then fashioned
into a birdcage, I mean,
it looked like you just went
into a home decor and
cut up a wicker basket
to make it look like a birdcage.
I was like, oh gosh, I think that would
make me claustrophobic.
That really affected you,
because you were really
kind of in a tizzy about it
the night it was happening.
And then now, multiple days later,
you're still kind of one of the first
things you brought up.
That really kind of
made an impression on you.
A negative impression.
Yeah, I mean, you know what?
Again, I don't really know fashion.
First off, the girl can sing, right?
She can blow, that's incredible.
She can totally sing.
But she's always loved
to push that fashion.
Definitely.
Line, if you want to call it that.
I'm not even sure it's that.
I think she loves the shock value.
She loves the shock value.
I must say, I did
actually like her outfit
with the feathered shirt and everything.
I thought that actually was really cool.
Like in where you would wear it or?
Well, I don't necessarily have a reason
to wear something like that.
A feathered shirt.
Yeah, like I'm not going to the Met Gala
where everybody is touting
how eccentric one can dress.
But it was the headdress that--
Yeah, she's kind of
going to the Met Gala.
Anytime she's performing
sometimes, I feel like, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
She's very shock value.
The meat dress was one
and she's had several.
I can't remember. Several.
Even her daughter knew the meat dress
and that was before she was
even alive, I'm pretty sure.
Or certainly before she would
have any cognitive memories.
Right, right, right, right, right.
She was pretty young.
Yeah, that was something.
The thing that caught
me off guard on that one,
I said it that night too, is there was a
lot of choreography.
So if you didn't see it, it's basically
like a wicker basket
that kind of has the front
of it, looks like a birdcage.
She almost looks like
she's behind bars, wicker bars.
They're all like two inches wide maybe.
But just on the front, so it's almost
like a helmet like that.
But the whole thing was a wicker basket,
went down to her shoulders.
But she looked up, you could see under it
and see her whole face.
And so there is this
very complex choreography
that clearly they had worked on before
because there was all
these different on count four.
Then she's gonna do the look up
and then the camera's
going down and you can see up.
And then she's going to the floor
but she's gonna look to the side.
It was perfectly choreographed.
Perfectly, yeah.
You know like the production,
the person, the producer of,
I couldn't find the word producer,
it's been that kind of a day.
But yeah, you know the
producer of the Grammys is like,
we spent a lot of time on that.
Yeah, you wouldn't believe how much time
we're spending on this birdcage.
And they may get an
Academy Award next time.
And we nailed it.
Nailed it, or an Emmy.
Technically that
would be an Emmy I think.
Yeah, that might be
what it is, I don't know.
Pop culture segment.
First one.
Yeah.
First and last maybe.
Quite possibly.
Could be, could be, could be, yeah.
We don't usually have too
many pop culture references.
It's just that one
was really top of mind.
And somehow it tied into.
Bird.
Birds of a feather.
Yeah.
Which was related to.
I thought you were
going with Billie Eilish
because she sang a
song, Birds of a Feather,
and she was on the Grammys.
I think they won a Grammy.
I think they did.
Yeah.
Yeah, but anyway.
That's not where you're going.
You know, that was really tangential,
but I will circle back to it and be like,
yeah, I'm not legally
blind, nor do I have a tail.
And just we're gonna.
Let's circle back to that.
We're gonna set the record straight.
Let's just make sure we cover that fully.
Not cover the tail,
I'm saying cover the fact
that there is no tail.
Because you would want to cover that
if there was one for sure.
I don't even know where to go with this.
I've tried to clear my own name
so people don't think I'm a freak.
You do not have a tail,
and I'm sorry I
brought it up in such a way.
I don't either.
Just in case that were to
bleed over this direction.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, one of the fun things for us this,
so we've, this year that we've known,
2026 is gonna be a crazy year
because of all the, no different
than we've talked about here before,
but the crazy train hits
basically every weekend and week,
this entire year of 2026, saved two.
We have two weeks
that we could potentially
go on a family vacation.
And we hadn't even, we
hadn't even scheduled them.
No.
Because of that, because
even some of them were like,
well, if they make this, if
they make that, who knows.
That's exactly right.
But in the last week, probably,
we filled both those dates.
Both of them.
I mean, that's like a high five
for getting something accomplished.
It is a high five, yeah.
I mean. That's right.
That's right.
We have solidified vacation
dates, which feels so good.
It is, and I do feel a little bad
because we had two sides of the family
we were contemplating going on a cruise,
and we said, hey, book it,
whatever dates you guys
work for you, that's fantastic.
If we can make it, you know, we'll try.
If not, have a great time.
It's just don't work around our schedule.
Our schedule is crazy this year.
Maybe for the next
three years, who knows.
All right.
That being said, one of
them fit into that week.
And it was like, well,
really hard to say no
when it actually happens to be that week.
You know what I mean? I know, exactly.
Yeah. Exactly.
Plus, I think it was something
that everybody wanted to do.
Yes. Kids love the cousins
on that side, obviously.
Yeah, and so they're over the moon.
Right, right.
Which for me, I absolutely love,
I think you feel this way,
but I wanna hear your take on it.
Some of my best friends
throughout my entire childhood,
adolescence, and early
adulthood were my cousins.
We were inseparable.
We went to college together.
We lived together in college.
I mean, like, and so for me,
it warms my heart to see
our kids love their cousins
and have a cool bond and relationship.
Yeah. Like I did, you know.
Well, and it's harder.
There's a couple more
hurdles there, right?
There are.
Primarily thousands of
miles between where we live,
whereas you just had a couple hour drive.
That's right, right. At
best, at most, you know.
Right, right.
So yeah, I think
that's, I agree with you.
I didn't really have that growing up.
I was stuck in the middle.
I had a handful of older cousins,
significantly older.
They're not gonna hang out with a kid
that's eight years younger than them.
Yeah. You know?
And then I was at least
five years to 12 years older
than the bottom half of
them and a different gender.
They were all girls
except for my cousin Brian.
Yeah. Who was, I think,
eight or nine years younger than me too.
Yeah. And so, you know,
it wasn't until later in
life when he and I kinda really,
he and I actually
played a lot when I was a kid
because he was tough.
I remember one time he punched me.
Oh, seriously? I was outside
playing basketball, I think
I was in high school maybe,
and he was out there,
I was at their house,
my uncle's house, and I
was dribbling the ball
or something like that in their driveway.
And little Brian had to
have been, I don't know,
eight years old or something
like that maybe at that time.
And he came out and he
punched me right in the diaphragm,
and he hit hard, I was like, whoa!
I mean, like, almost
where it took my breath away.
(laughing)
That was one of the times I remember
hanging out with him.
That's funny, I didn't know that.
I got beat up by an
eight year old, basically.
Yeah, maybe.
Let's tout that one.
You should be real proud of it.
Yeah, I'm on a good streak of
self-defamation today.
Yeah, just bring yourself down a notch.
That's right, that's right.
Yeah, so I didn't really have that,
but I'm glad the kids do.
I get it from a social, I mean, I get it.
Understand why it can be fun.
So I'm glad they have that, hopefully
they have a good time.
Yeah, well, and really on
both sides of our family,
I mean, our kids have
cousins at their same age,
like on both sides.
Yeah, some older, some
younger, but like every,
they all have at least
one that's their age.
So it's kind of cool.
Yeah, unfortunately,
almost none of them live
in the same state that we do.
Correct, yeah.
There's like that.
We did have a couple in
the state for a while,
but they were a little bit older,
where it just didn't groove that well.
And again, we have so many
soccer games and track meets
and it's like, we're
not gonna see you anyways.
So the only time we will
see somebody is on a vacation.
Whereas you would see people on holidays
or birthdays probably.
Yeah, it was, yeah, a lot more common.
We were four hours away
and we could make that trip
and it was easy.
So four hours, it sounds
like a lot, but it's not.
I mean.
Yeah, not when you know
you're going to and whatnot.
Yeah, that's fun.
And you guys did it all the time too.
When you do it, it's
not that big of a deal.
That's exactly right.
Because we didn't grow up
with family in our area.
Everybody was at least
minimum four hours away
just to see family.
I bet.
I bet the rest of my family though,
I bet they enjoyed the cousins
because all the girls
had cousins their age
within an hour on
that side of the family.
Or on both sides actually there.
So I mean, I think
they probably had a lot
of the same experience
that you had with your cousins
where they were very close.
So I can see how that
worked out for them.
Built in friends.
Yeah, yeah.
Kind of just go with that.
Go wherever you go and I don't know.
So we'll have more cool experiences.
We got to spend, we
were in Hawaii with them
two years ago now?
Yeah.
Already?
A year and a half at least.
A year and a half, yeah.
This summer will be two years.
Right, right.
So there's that one.
And then the second one, which is
actually we're taking
first, we booked up that weekend
and this is a vacation
that we took three years ago,
four years ago?
Three or four, yeah.
Yeah, three or four years ago.
And it rained the
entire time we were there.
And not the kind of rain, you're like,
"You know what, let's
just have a great time.
"You know what, it'll be all right.
"We'll enjoy it, it's
not that big of a deal."
No, it's Bahamas.
It's in the Bahamas.
And it monsoon poured the
whole time we were there.
It actually started while we were
standing in the water
getting ready to meet our dolphin.
Yes, we were supposed to.
The dolphin experience.
Yes, and Shree, the dolphin.
Yeah, she got a bit of a break
because everybody was
standing in the pouring rain.
So I think they ended up sending her away
while we all had to go.
We tried to wait it out.
We tried to wait it out for
like an hour and a half or so.
While we're undercover,
the dolphin trainers in there
telling us all the stats
and facts about dolphins.
Dolphin training and
all that kind of stuff.
And it just, it didn't break.
So we actually ended
up going back out there.
Everybody's just
shivering, standing in knee high,
thigh high water.
It was so cold.
I remember thinking like,
"Well, we will never forget this moment."
Like there was more rain.
Like we were probably
getting wetter coming from the sky
than we were in like
standing in the water.
Oh yeah, oh for sure.
And then it just didn't let
up for the rest of the trip.
The rest of the trip.
That is not true.
We did have like an hour
moment where it didn't.
And we could see the
blue turquoise come out
for just a moment.
The sun came out.
We went snorkeling and we
saw like two or three tortoises
under there.
So I think it was just
me and the kids, right?
Did you come out?
Yeah, it was just you and the kids.
I don't think you
made your way out there.
Cause it was pretty far
out and about 15 feet down,
but they were right.
It was incredible.
It was really cool
swimming with tortoises.
And then just naturally wild.
It was incredible.
It was insane.
It was really cool.
So we're gonna give it a go again.
We're gonna hope that it
does not monsoon the whole time.
In fact, wasn't there
like a mini tornado?
Yes.
Yeah, cause like all
of a sudden like trash
started blowing
everywhere and like it started,
like it moved a car even.
It was right before dinner.
So yeah, we were all, I don't
know if we were on the beach
walking around or if we
were, we were walking somewhere
cause we were outside.
Yeah.
Probably under a
covered portico of some sort.
But I was like, oh my
gosh, look at all that trash.
Yes.
Flying around.
Like where did all this trash come from?
Like I had never, I didn't know what was
happening, honestly.
She was kind of
whipping and circling around.
You could see it.
It's kind of out of nowhere.
Yeah.
Didn't, we didn't think much of it.
No.
And then we walked through the casino
and walked out the other side
cause we were going
to a dinner that night
and there was a lot of
hubbub going on on the other side,
on the other side, cause
that was on the beach side.
Then on the other side of
Atlantis where there was an arena.
Yeah.
Everybody was there.
Like that's where we found
out there was like a small
like F1 tornado that we
literally saw come through there,
turn to carver, throw some
boats on top of each other.
There was trash all
over the place over there.
But it was kind of a big deal.
And we were just like right there.
We had no idea.
It was very surreal.
We're like, what is happening here?
Yeah.
So, oh my gosh.
So hopefully better weather is we're
going to try it again
because we deserve to
have that experience.
You know what?
Yeah, we do.
Very few things I say we deserve.
(laughing)
Sure. Yeah.
We deserve us.
We deserve ya.
I mean, yeah, it, I
really do hope that the weather
is better cause like you
never go to the Bahamas
expecting it to pour the whole time.
Right.
But sure enough it did.
Like, okay.
Well, really cool place.
So we're excited to go back to that one.
It was between that and Costa Rica,
which we'd already been to as well
and had a great time there.
Yeah.
So hopefully we made the right decision
and it doesn't rain.
If it rains, the Bahamas is dead to me.
We're never going back.
Like there, there is no
like three strikes you're out.
It's literally the
beginning of the rainy season too.
Yes.
If you go towards the
end of rainy season,
you kind of expect a little bit more,
but at the beginning,
yeah, just like Florida,
you're going to have these
afternoon thunder showers.
They come through and clear out quickly.
Yeah. Yeah.
You're like, no, that cloud parked itself
right over Atlantis.
Just storm after storm after storm.
And remember those
super expensive cabanas
that we couldn't cancel?
That we went down and sat in anyways,
cause they're covered till they're soaked
and then they drip through the canvas.
So lovely.
But we sat there,
covered ourselves in towels
and watched nobody in the pool.
Actually the kids got in
the pool room, one rainstorm,
but it was freezing cold.
Freezing.
Yeah.
Yeah. But I mean, they did
have the pool to themselves.
Silver lining question mark.
Yeah. There wasn't
anybody in any of the pools
the whole time we were there.
Yeah. Well, why?
It was not warm.
We did go down the slot,
the slides a couple of times
cause there's no line
cause nobody was there.
Maybe that's better this time.
We don't have to worry
about doing the slides as much
cause we already did them.
It's true. Yeah.
If that lines all the way up the pyramid.
Yeah. Then that's kind of cool.
Yeah. But I don't know.
I'd still rather take that
and like nice beach pool weather
than not.
Yes. Yes. Yes.
So we're going to do it right this time.
Yes.
And dang it. We deserve it.
I'm going to say it again.
I'm already looking forward to it.
Why is it going through my head?
Like the Stuart Smalley
like and gosh darn it.
Oh no, that's gosh darn it.
You're worth it.
I was going to say cause gosh darn it.
You deserve it.
And people like you.
People like me.
Yeah.
No, that's why it's one
of those weird statements
that most people don't say.
Probably not.
I deserve this.
I deserve it.
Nobody says that.
Even if you do, nobody says that.
No, that's the, that's the unspoken part
that you just don't say.
That's right.
All those things you say in your head
that most of us have the
ability to not say out loud.
Right, right.
Like you said the quiet part out loud.
No, that's one you just keep in there.
That's right.
Even though we all feel it,
I'll go out on a limb and say it.
We all feel it sometimes.
Wow.
When you're ready for
your vacation, right?
If you're lucky enough
to take one and whatnot.
Yeah.
By that time you're like,
"Not only do I
deserve it, but I need it."
I got to have it.
I got to be honest.
Like people need vacations.
They need time away.
From the chaos train,
from all the things.
Although I did have a coworker.
Maybe we're getting
into the I'm Peef segment.
I don't know.
Oh, yeah.
I don't mean to
force-feed the I'm Peef segment,
but I actually had someone tell me,
and this person does not have children,
that it's not really fair
because if you're a parent,
you get maternity leave.
And if you don't have children,
you don't get that break.
And while I fully
support everybody getting
mental health breaks
from work and all of that,
I was like, "Really?
"We're gonna use maternity leave as the
example of a break?"
Like, "Hmm."
Yeah, because when you
were taking that decades ago,
you had to use all your PTO
for it in the first place.
So it's not like you
just got free time off,
and then you could go on a
PTO vacation somewhere else,
pay time off, later in the year.
You had to use most of your PTO,
at least for the first week or a half.
Two weeks, yeah.
Two weeks of it.
And you probably, if
anybody's had a baby, I have not,
but I'm aware enough of
the situation, the sit,
the sit, the sit, if you will.
You're aware.
You're not quite on a vacation
after giving birth to children.
No.
And it's not like
you're sitting by a pool,
sipping on my ties, right?
You're wearing adult
diapers and staying up all night.
That's exactly right.
Yeah, not sleeping.
So it's actually the very opposite.
It's probably--
I mean, allow me to take your I'm peeved.
Thank you.
Because I know--
Every woman right now is standing up
and giving you the slow clap for that,
because it is so true.
Well, I don't manage
people anymore right now,
so I can say what I would want to say.
I can say what I couldn't
say when I managed people.
And so I know, to some degree,
that's probably what
you're thinking about,
with some other people that
have been in those same shoes.
Yeah.
You know?
But you know, there's a lot of things
you could talk about that.
But what that comes down to is that
everybody, what is that,
there's a saying for it,
where everybody, it's not megalomania,
but everybody thinks their life is
special and different.
You know what I mean?
And unique.
Uniquely, its own experience
that no one else has ever
done something similar to.
Yes.
To some degree.
You know what I mean?
And like, I'm not trying to downplay
like people are unique people,
and people have all these special,
you guys are all special, that's great.
Absolutely.
But in general, most
of us are kind of doing
the same thing, right?
We're all walking the same path,
different deviations of the same path.
Right.
Absolutely.
All right.
You know, what was I saying now?
And I forgot,
because I was trying to
like tread lightly on that.
About how everyone's
unique, and so you think.
Oh yeah, that was the saying.
There's so many people are just like,
oh, I am the only person
that does this, or just me.
You know what I mean?
It's like, no, it's not
just you, it's all of us.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Everybody to me isn't
able to think outside
of a certain box.
To me, that's the same thing, right?
Like it's just me.
No, it's not just you.
You know, you're just
not thinking through
that that's not a
vacation for someone else.
And ergo, it is not not unfair.
It is not not fair.
Like, this isn't like,
and I get it, like we
chose to have children.
So that is our life choice,
but like the maternity leave
part is not like a perk.
No, no.
I mean, it's no different
than if you break your leg,
this person that doesn't
have children breaks their leg,
and they have to take a
little bit of short term,
you know, family leave.
Right.
Is that unfair too?
Right, right.
Because you have legs?
Right.
That's kind of the same thing, right?
Yeah, oh yeah.
Like it's a medical thing
when you're on maternity leave.
That's right.
I think anybody can take
mental health days now too,
most people.
Right, right.
Now is that unfair?
Right.
Because your brain has a,
I was gonna say a brain
fart, I guess, a fart.
(laughing) Because you chose to
be born with a brain?
Right, right.
It's just kind of one of those things.
Like you're right,
everybody needs a break.
But I actually just nodded, you know,
when she started talking about how,
you know, like when people
with kids get maternity leave,
like that's a perk.
I was like, hmm.
Don't you wish you could say things then?
That was funny.
And have all the right things to say.
I just nodded my head,
because I was just like, oh, oh, oh,
we're not going there.
But I later vented to you to be like,
are you kidding me?
That's when you just wish you'd go,
mm-hmm, and shake your head no,
you're like, mm-hmm, if
that's what you think.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, that was
kind of the crown jewel.
That's what I'm talking about.
It's like the work at home mom,
that was like, I had the hardest day.
I had to go to Home D, I
had to go to Hobby Lobby
and return things, I had to
go to Target and return things.
And then I had to go
pick up Starbucks to take it
in Chick-fil-A to take
it to the kids at school.
It was like, I'm not
saying that's not hard,
but again, we're all in a,
you know, kind of similar thing.
So like, you know, the
mom that's doing that
and working a job also,
and fitting all that in
somewhere along the same 24 hours a day,
or seven days a week,
still fitting all that in.
Yeah, we're getting it all.
I mean like, well, you
know, that's hard too also.
It is.
Tambien.
You do Tambien.
Yeah.
Yes, yeah.
Because that's when
we hear sometimes too,
and from two working
parents and a working mother.
Yeah, he's--
Who, you know, I don't
ever give you enough,
I don't give you enough
props for doing all that you do,
working at a very
high level at a company,
and then turning around
and doing all those things
that all moms do at a high
level, and doing great at it.
I mean, kudos, you're
doing a fantastic job.
Well, thank you, you
don't have to say that.
I'll cut that out, don't worry.
Please, it's just weird.
Well, you do that to me sometimes too,
like let's just take a
moment and just recognize you.
It's not fun to be recognized sometimes.
It's kind of, yeah, it
makes me a little uncomfortable.
Yeah, yeah.
When someone gives you, I learned though,
learning to Conan O'Brien,
when somebody gives you a
compliment, you just say thanks.
Thank you.
Like, it's true.
Isn't it what our daughter's teacher,
cause like our daughter
sometimes will be like, I know.
No, no, no, you're just
supposed to say thank you.
I know.
(laughs) You're just supposed to say thank you.
It'd be funny if I say that.
Megs, you're doing an incredible job.
You're holding down a high level job.
You're getting all the mom things done,
also in the same seven days a week,
that some moms that are
lucky enough not to work
are able to do.
And you're like, I know.
I know.
(laughs)
You're like, okay.
I'm awesome.
I guess I didn't mean to say anything.
But to that point, I love,
tell people what
someone, I think you report to,
or someone that's, I don't know,
someone that you work with there,
made the comment, every now and then
it's okay to look in the mirror.
Yes.
And acknowledge it.
It was, and it was--
No matter who you are.
No matter who you are, I
was talking to someone.
Help me reframe.
I told you this
actually, we had a date night.
We were lucky enough
to have a date night.
I was telling you this,
cause it reframed how I was thinking
about a lot of things.
Cause I was having a day that, you know,
our youngest had emergency dental stuff,
and you were busy doing--
I was unavailable.
You were unavailable.
So I had to do that and
then like everything--
Working.
Yes, you were working.
Not watching the Star Wars
trilogy in the movie room.
No, absolutely not.
I should never, I hope I never imply--
You were available, you were napping,
and I know not to wake you up.
I've learned over the years.
Yeah, no, no, no, you were super busy.
Your day was crazy, and
you were just working away
from the home, so you were unavailable.
Emergency dental, you
had to take care of it.
Emergency dental, and like everything
kind of blew up on that day.
And I was telling this
person I work with about,
I was like, oh my gosh, I just, you know,
it's gonna be one of those
days when I brush my teeth,
I look in the mirror and I'm like,
I don't know how I did
it, but I got it all done.
She looked at me and she's like, no,
you're gonna look in the
mirror and you're gonna say,
you effing crushed it.
And I was like--
For freaking.
Yeah.
And it was just like, yeah,
why am I so just tentative
about it and like, it
didn't turn out the way
that I thought, she's like, you're right,
it didn't turn out the way you thought,
but you still did it all.
Yeah.
And it's like, I feel
like we should all do that
a lot more.
Yeah, because it
overtakes that mindset of like,
I made it, oh my God, I just made it
across the finish line.
Yeah.
Versus, I just crushed that race.
Yes.
It's not like I just
barely made it over the finish,
I crushed the race, I finished the race.
I finished the race, and gosh darn it,
I'm proud of that.
Right, right.
Like, I don't care if I came
in first or I came in second
or I came in dead last, I
ran the race and I did it.
I don't follow the metaphor on that part,
but yes, you finished the race.
Well, because we
always want to finish first,
and that's always like
the hesitation of like,
oh gosh, I did, I made it,
I just made it, you know?
Yeah, meaning like, you
would grade yourself in A plus
on all your meetings
and your presentations
and your one-on-ones,
you know what I mean?
Yeah.
Right.
It means you won them, you did, yeah.
Whereas one of them might've been like,
well, I gave myself a B on that one, I
just wasn't into it,
and I was, I still
don't have the emails done,
and you don't have things like this.
And sometimes it's like, whew,
I had to pivot on a
whole bunch of things.
And pivot.
And pivot, you know, so anyway,
it really helped
reframe that, and I was like,
people need to do
that more often, I think,
because I was like, I'd never even
thought about it that way.
Yeah, every now and
then there's a few things
that just stick with me,
and I can't remember them all
at the same time, but
every now and then I do.
Yeah.
You know, and over this last year,
a couple of them like
that, Robin Williams quote,
has stuck with me, just, you never know
what someone else is going through.
Yup.
Right, even though they might have a
smile on their face.
You just, you don't know
what they're going through,
so be kind to people, you know?
Because a lot of people don't tell you
when they're having a tough time.
Right.
You're like, oh, last
year we had a tough year,
and I don't think
anybody would have really known
some of the things that we went through
or you went through.
That one, that one resonated with me.
I liked that one.
You know, I had a
counselor once who told me,
like, you know, put stock in people.
You know, not
everybody fills your cup 100%.
Once you understand how
much they fill your cup,
it might only be 10%.
Right. And you don't waste your energy on hoping
they're going to fill that cup more.
You know what to expect from them.
That's exactly right.
So then I can file that away.
You know, that's another one.
And then this Let Them
Theory book that we're reading,
I've just really enjoyed
that idea of, well, let them.
It's not easy all the time,
but sometimes you just
gotta let people be them,
and you gotta move on with your life.
Whether you like me or not.
Even if it's you don't like me,
I'm gonna let you not like me.
That's your choice.
Right, right.
It's let them, but also let me.
Because that's the next step of it.
Let me then move on with my life.
Let me make a healthy choice
for what I'm gonna do next.
But I'm gonna let them
do whatever they want
because we can't control them.
That's right.
Yeah, there's a bunch of little things.
Anything like that
stick out for you over time?
Oh, yeah, I have--
Because you have a better memory than me.
I have quite a few of them.
I mean--
Give us your top two.
Okay, so the Robin Williams is up there.
But the other one is when
people show you who they are,
believe them.
I was gonna say that one too.
Yeah, because that's more of
a live your life like that.
That's actually in the
Let Them Theory book too.
Have we got to that yet?
No.
I may have just recorded that one then.
Oh, okay, cool.
I'm excited to hear it.
Yeah, it is.
So anyways.
Yeah, and it's so true.
Because every time, like if
you look back on your life
and you're like, oh,
anytime that I gave that person
that second chance or I kind of gave them
the benefit of the
doubt, or maybe I didn't,
and who they were always was consistent.
Yeah, once somebody
shows you who they are,
you shouldn't be surprised.
And again, that's where
you can classify people
and categorize them
and put them on the shelf
where they deserve to go.
Good or bad, but once
they show you who they are,
they could show you
that they're an incredibly
kind person.
That's right.
Believe it, right?
You know what I mean?
If you're not an optimist.
Yeah, right.
So many times I use that
with a negative connotation
because people show you their bad sides.
Yeah.
And their bad traits.
And you're like, all
right, I know who you are.
I'm not gonna.
But generally speaking at our age,
it's tough to change traits.
All right, what's your next one?
Oh, I don't know.
I thought I gave my
two, but we'll give my two.
My bad.
Of like, the Robin Williams one.
Oh, I see, the Robin Williams one.
And then I started with the whole like,
looking yourself and
being like, I crushed it.
And just.
Yeah, I like that one.
That one resonated with me.
Yeah, and yeah.
And then we'll go with the whole
when people show you who they are.
I wonder how long it'll
take me to just forget that.
Because I had the worst memory.
We've covered that on here so many times.
But it's like, I don't, it's
not like I wake up every day
with this like, catalog of,
and I don't think
it's healthy to be like,
to get through life
on quotes and sayings.
They're fun and they can
be timely here and there.
You know what I mean?
But ultimately you gotta
be healthy inside, right?
But every now and then
just given that little fire,
just that little kind of, you know,
push of adrenaline or
encouragement or inspiration
is helpful and I think
that's what those are good for.
And some of those are
just kind of good guidelines
to live life by.
That's absolutely right.
If you can remember them.
(laughing)
Those, I mean, we repeat those pretty,
the two, the Robin
Williams quote and the one that,
I was just talking about,
like we repeat those pretty frequently.
There's no way you're gonna forget those.
And I don't think you
have to look at yourself
every single day and
be like, I crushed it.
On those days when you're like,
feel like you limped
across the finish line,
giving yourself the kudos and
the freedom to just be like,
didn't turn out the way I expected it to,
but it turned out the way that it should.
I don't know, Ted Lasso
actually has so many of those.
Oh my gosh, every episode.
Every episode, like,
cause he has one where he's like,
everything may not turn out
the way that you wanted it to,
but I promise you
everything will turn out.
The way that it's supposed to.
And it's, I don't know, he's so good.
Yeah, I'm excited for that
next season to come out, right?
Oh my gosh.
At some point in time.
Yeah, I don't know when.
We need to rewatch it.
I wish it didn't have
so many bad words in it,
at least the one character.
There's probably a few scenes
that are inappropriate for the kids,
but I wish the kids could watch it,
cause it's so good.
Just some portions of
it are inappropriate.
Yeah, but overall, like, the lessons,
I mean, I love to pull
out of Ted Lasso quote,
every now and again.
There's a Ted Lasso
plaque up in the kids loft.
Heck yeah.
I don't remember what that one says.
I don't either.
Oh man, it's gonna bother me.
Might be the goldfish one.
Cause that's a good one.
Yeah.
That's a good one.
I can't remember, but yeah.
Nice, well good.
Well, you got that, I am peeved out.
You feel better?
I do, I do.
You have anything you're peeved about?
You know, I've always
got peeved things about,
but nothing specific to bring up today.
If people had just
cleared out the highways
while I'm on them, that'd be fantastic.
Man, I must have a lot of I'm peeved
cause you're really striking a nerve
with that one with me now too.
It's just so bad.
You know it's bad when your 12 year old's
in the back seat going, hey
mom, how fast are you going?
Cause you're like flying past people.
And I was like, I am driving
65, which is the speed limit.
And yes, I am flying past people.
Well in Texas, people get really nervous
when stuff falls from the sky.
Whether it's water, ash, ice.
Ash?
I don't know, I was just
trying to think about it.
What else can fall from the sky?
Really, mostly just some form of water.
Mostly, mostly some form of water.
But it's not even icy though, right?
I get ice, I wouldn't
hold that against anybody.
I would either.
Oh my gosh.
But just because it's a little wet
or because it's overcast, I mean like,
they're just so bad.
Yeah, we're talking completely dry roads.
Yeah, yeah.
Completely.
You're right, last week at this time,
I would not have
ventured out of the house.
I don't do ice.
Nobody should.
Right, nobody should do ice.
There's no good way to
drive on it as a regular person.
Totally agree.
Unless you have some sort of like cat.
Like skiing, you know, ski hill type.
Yeah, yeah.
Tread, treaded
vehicle, all terrain vehicle.
That's exactly right.
Yeah.
You and I grew up where there's snow.
You can drive in snow.
You cannot drive in ice.
They tried, you saw
everybody in Austin tried.
There's like a million reels of cars
just somehow doing 360s all the way down,
all the way down like small hills.
Just piling into other cars at the end.
Are they all like a real, real drive?
That's the only time I've known someone
to like do a 360.
I don't know.
I actually contemplated
that for half a second
of how they got going on a 360.
A, they're going too fast.
I think they just like try to,
they like hit the brake and
like turn the wheel, right?
Because they don't
know what they're doing.
And that just starts the whole process.
And then they're just like, you know,
like a cartoon person
hanging on to the steering wheel
to hand to just looking out the window
with big eyes at people like,
what happened?
Like, how am I doing this?
Like what is this?
What is happening to me?
(exhaling)
Just all the way down.
Austin.
The most crazy thing.
I've seen this.
You're in the headlight looks like,
how did I get here?
Well, we all know that if
you're driving on snow or ice,
like slamming on the
brakes is a great idea.
Yeah, well, maybe not people in Texas.
Again, people in
Minneapolis may know this.
People from Colorado know this.
True.
Yeah.
Ice just sucks.
That's all there is to it.
Yes, it does.
All right, well, I
think we're getting close
to shutting this baby down.
Yeah.
Probably getting close to it.
Anything, any final thoughts
coming from off of this week,
looking into next week?
We're in February now.
We got a-
February.
Our oldest kid gets his
driver's license this week,
or this month.
Holy heck.
Very few things have made me feel old
as far as having children is concerned.
This one does.
Actually having kids
in high school kind of,
was that first like tick towards that?
Yeah.
Now that I got a kid
that's about to drive,
he has his own car, all this,
that makes me feel
like I'm an older person.
That doesn't make you feel.
Huh.
28?
No.
Up from 27?
No.
Oh man, it gives me a
whole bunch of feels.
It gives me a whole
bunch of scary things.
It gives me a whole
bunch of proud feelings.
And it gives me a whole bunch of,
where in the world did time go feelings?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And am I ready for this?
Is he ready for this?
Is, oh gosh, did I do my job okay?
It's all the feels.
Yeah, yeah.
Most of which are riddled with anxiety.
I'll say it.
(laughs) I know, I know, wow.
That's what we got coming
up this month for us though.
It's crazy.
I know.
You have a big birthday too.
I mean, I should say it's a birthday.
Not a big birthday.
At this age, we don't
really celebrate them.
I have a decade next year, so that's one,
not only that I celebrate
it, but decades are decades.
Decades are decades.
It's a milestone birthday next year.
Yeah.
I think, you know.
Big four over the hill.
That's exactly right.
That's what you look like.
I wish I did.
Someone, you recently had someone
thinking you were in your 30s, right?
I did.
It's just such a compliment.
I did, but I was wearing a hat
and asking for bazooka gum.
I'm just kidding, I totally stole that.
I totally stole that from Dana Carvey.
I heard of Dana Carvey.
Dana Carvey.
He was so young, and he
used that same kind of joke,
saying like, no, he's like recently,
and he was like 54 or
something like that at the time.
He's like, I was carded in
Vegas by a living human being,
but you know, when I was
54 or something like that,
he's like, now
granted, I was wearing a hat
and I was asking him if I could buy
some bazooka gum off of him.
So he was making a joke on me.
I thought it was hilarious.
That's pretty funny.
Probably didn't land as well with mine.
I was getting more
Ralph Macchio vibes from you
as opposed to Dana
Carvey vibes, but okay.
Yeah, Macchio, man, that's another, whew.
He looks good for being 64 or five now.
He looks like he's 35.
Yeah, he does, he does.
I want his secret, whatever it is.
I think it's Miyagi-san Karate.
Oh yeah.
I'll try that.
You'll try that, yeah.
Chopsticks and try to go after the flies.
The next step is yoga though from that.
So you better just be careful.
I go from catching flies
with chopsticks to yoga.
I don't want you to say
you're gonna do something
and then stop, not do it,
turn around your tail between your legs.
Oh, and we brought that around.
Call back.
I don't have a tail.
I know, I know,
you're just legally blind.
There are no words, no words.
Other than we will see you next time.
Thank you for joining.
And have a great week, ciao ciao.
Great week, see ya.
[chimes]
[sighs]
All right.
You needed the woo-saw.
Yeah. Is woo saw a word?
I have no idea!
Well, you know me in yoga.
Speaking of birds, we do--
Where you going with that?
And we nailed it.
Nailed it.
Trying to clear my own name
so people don't think I'm a freak.
It actually started while we were
standing in the water
getting ready to meet our dolphin.
What is happening here?
People like me!
Really?
situation, the sit. You guys are all
special, that's great.
Absolutely. But in general,
most of us are kind of doing
the same thing. It is not not fair.
Because you chose to be born with a
brain? Oh, oh, oh, we're not going there.
Kudos, hon, you're doing a fantastic job.
You effing crushed it.
For freaking. When people
show you who they are, believe
them. And we brought that around.
We're all back.