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I'm sorry.

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Hello there.

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This is the chairman here of the United

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States Department of Nerds,

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where we are for the people,

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by the people, and of the people.

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At USDN, we just don't talk comments.

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We spotlight creators who are building

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worlds, challenging the status quo,

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and redefining what heroism looks like in

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modern storytelling.

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Tonight, we're stepping into the shadows.

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Our guest is Lonnie Lowe,

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and Lowe is the creator and founder of

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Dark City Comics,

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a universe where grit meets greatness,

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and the heroes aren't born perfect,

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they're forged by crisis.

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We're diving into Epic.

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Earth Protector in Crisis,

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the philosophy behind lighting,

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the shadows of heroism,

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and how Dark City Comics is building more

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than stories, it's building a movement.

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The Council of Nerds is now in session.

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Lo, welcome to the USDM, my friend.

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Hey, man.

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Thanks for having me.

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I appreciate you bringing me on.

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It means a lot.

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Hey, no worries, dude.

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The moment you sent me the pictures of

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the book requesting to come on,

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I was like, yeah, we're doing it.

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Thanks.

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But yeah, man, let's dive into it.

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Who is Lowe and what is Dark City

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Comics?

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So I started this, shucks,

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I've been working on it for well over

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a decade.

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This is actually a relaunch and I've been

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working on the relaunch for a couple of

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years and just really started going back

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hard in the past six months once I

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got all my ducks in a row and

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decided how I wanted the relaunch to go

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and what I wanted to focus on.

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So I'm just, you know,

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a regular guy who loves comics, man,

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and got bit by the creator's bug.

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I was I'm in Arizona.

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I stay in Arizona and I was going

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by drawing the comics.

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I shout out to them.

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They were having like a curbside comic

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con, which is cool.

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And I just walked in and I fell

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back in love with it, man.

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This was years ago,

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but I've been I've been back in it

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ever since.

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I do.

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I like it.

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The website.

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Phenomenal, dude.

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I don't know who did your website,

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but that thing is amazing.

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I did it.

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That is some phenomenal work, man.

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Appreciate it, man.

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When you when you're back up against the

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wall, man,

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you enlist in YouTube University and

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figure it out.

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Hey, that's how I built this, man.

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I watched a whole lot of YouTube before

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launching a YouTube channel.

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Yeah, and that's what it takes, man.

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A lot of times you just got to

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jump in and figure it out while you're

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in it.

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So,

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how did you come up with the name

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of Dark City Comics?

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Initially, right,

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I wanted to do it where everything was

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happening at night.

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Like, everything.

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So, it was initially that.

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Like, I wanted to do... Because, you know,

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most superhero comics are all shiny.

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And I was like, what if it's...

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always going down at night what is only

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happening at night that was initially the

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idea um the idea changed but the name

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stuck so initially I just wanted it to

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be all just dark city like a dark

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city yeah it didn't go there yeah so

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the name stayed but the uh you know

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as you're formulating ideas and you're

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building stuff you're like eh it may not

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work so yeah but but I love the

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name

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no i i do too and that's why

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i was like it's got to be something

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significant there and i'm glad there was

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the name stuck and it dude i like

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the name because you could use that name

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for anything if you wanted to open up

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a comic shop dark city comics boom there

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you go the name is there it's one

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of those names that you could literally

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brand any kind of way you want to

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so yeah we we do uh i do

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freelance uh film and video so we do

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have a film division um working on an

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apparel uh division like a clothing line

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just for just for merch and stuff like

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that so yeah and it's pretty much it

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i just plug and play dark city comics

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multi film and multimedia the apparel

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division so yeah it does it does fit

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in a lot of different places no i

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like you plus that that sweatshirt on the

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site is pretty dope too

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I appreciate it.

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Let me know what your size is.

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I got some t-shirts here.

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I literally just got a screen printer.

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A heat press, sorry.

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And I got some games.

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Huh?

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You know what a heat press is good

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for, right?

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I'm making shirts for my house.

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You can press comic books with them too.

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Huh?

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You can press comic books with a heat

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press.

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That's what people buy them for.

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Those guys who clean and press comic

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books.

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It's a t-shirt press.

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Dude, I never knew this.

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I'm tripping right now.

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Right now.

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Not only can you print t-shirts,

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but you can press comic books.

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Ain't no way.

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Dude, I wouldn't bullshit you on that.

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I just ordered another one.

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We got one.

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Well,

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my business partner just had one sitting

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in the garage.

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And I was trying to get some clothes,

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some mock-ups done,

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but nobody would get back to me.

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And I don't like to keep asking people

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for stuff.

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So I went and bought some game sheets

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from a local spot out here,

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Custom Print AZ.

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They were phenomenal.

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And I just pressed them up.

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And it was so easy,

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we ordered another one.

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But I didn't know you can press comics

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with it.

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Hop on YouTube when we're done, dude,

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and look it up.

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There's some really good guys out there

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who would do, like,

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step-by-step tutorials on how to clean

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them, how to press them.

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There's a certain type of paper you get

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at certain weights of the paper that you

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put in the front cover and the back

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cover, wax paper.

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They walk you through it step-by-step,

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man.

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And it looks super easy.

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I will guarantee you it is not as

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easy as it looks because you're going to

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have to actually –

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Get older comic books that aren't worth

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fifty cents and just practice on those.

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And then just until you got the system

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down that works for you in your T-shirt

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printer.

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Do I never?

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Yeah, man.

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That's another.

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Now my brain.

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Yeah, you got my brain spinning.

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I'm over here like, all right, cool.

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I'm ready to get on the phone and

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make a call.

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Hey,

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get yourself another one to get to it,

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man,

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because that's money because people will

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pay to have comic books pressed.

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Man, I did not know that.

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I thought it all happened in like some

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wild factory where they cut all the stuff,

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line it up, staple it all,

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smash it together.

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I had no idea.

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No.

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Okay.

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No.

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So you know how if you send a

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comic book over to CGC and you request

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to have it cleaned and pressed, right?

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So they're going to take their time.

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They're going to clean the cover.

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But how they press it to get wrinkles

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out of your comic book is they use

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a T-shirt press.

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It's literally the same press.

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All right, all right.

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Because you about to have me go somewhere

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else.

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Hey, I'm helping you make money here, man.

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You got two t-shirts pressed.

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Now you can do it.

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I absolutely appreciate it.

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But yeah, man,

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if you send me your information,

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I just got two game sheets.

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I'll give you one of the,

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it's probably one, two, three,

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about six shirts.

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Yeah, just give me your size.

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I'll press you one up and send it

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out to you.

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Yeah, I'll shoot you a message after this,

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but let's keep on, man.

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We then got off track because I'm like,

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dude, you're sitting on a gold mine.

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So let me ask,

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what does lighten the shadows of heroism

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mean to you?

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Well, just, you know, um,

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What you want to do, like I said,

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a lot of things,

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when we talk about lightening the shadows

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of heroism,

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it's just bringing light to all forms of

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the hero, the whole aspect.

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Shining light on all aspects of heroism.

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You know,

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sometimes we like to focus on one side,

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just him being the good guy,

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the great guy.

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We don't really shine light on the other

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aspects.

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You know,

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we're kind of just a hero in general.

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What kind of human being is he?

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Yeah.

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What kind of dad is he?

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Does he hate his job?

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Like, you know,

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you want to just shine some more light

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on the human elements,

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not just the gadgetry and the cool suits

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or the cool powers and stuff like that.

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No, I like it.

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Like a well-rounded perspective of

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heroism.

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No, and I really like,

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because you sent me over the teaser,

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and I'm thinking, if I'm guessing right,

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that teaser is kind of how he gets

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his powers and stuff like that.

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Yeah, right at the beginning,

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how it happens.

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It's such a dope concept of how they

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get their powers.

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I personally,

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I've been reading comic books of all types

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for many, many years,

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and that was probably one of the coolest

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things

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concepts of a hero origin story we

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appreciate it yeah thanks man just you

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know a lot of times people go you

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see these long and you gotta go through

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all these that's like i was like what

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if you just wake up what if somebody

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tips the scale set something off and

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random people just wake up there's no

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danger room there's no training you wake

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up and you can spit fire you wake

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up in your water you wake up you

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know what i mean what do you do

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from here

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it's happening everywhere so so that that

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randomness gets the wheel spinning because

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now anything can happen and so now i

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have to write with the idea that anything

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can happen no and it's such a perfect

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you know way to start a story too

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it was really cool i i

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Y'all, when this Kickstarter starts,

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you need to jump in.

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Trust me on it.

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If the teaser is as good as the

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whole book, then you're golden.

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That's an investment.

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So what kind of heroes is Dark City

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focusing on that the mainstream comics

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often ignore?

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I think with us,

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they're not as shiny as we're accustomed

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to.

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And then a couple are.

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So you see street level, you know,

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and then you'll see people struggling.

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You know, we really want to.

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talk about the human side and even the

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villains, you know,

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we go deep with the villains.

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You know,

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a lot of times you just see a

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guy, he's a bank robber or whatever.

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How do you get there?

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Not everybody's motivated by evil.

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Some things just happen and you end up

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in this spot.

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And now that you're here, you kind of,

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you got to ride it out.

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Like now that I'm here, you know,

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so we look at it from the street

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level.

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We do the cosmic level.

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which are big heroes,

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and then we do street level,

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and then we do villains from all those

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sides, too.

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What are the villains at this cosmic

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level?

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What are the villains at the street level?

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What are the villains that sit in the

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middle?

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What are they motivated by?

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You go from ordinary to extraordinary.

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You really went deep-dived the different

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things, and that's really cool,

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because half the time you get...

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maybe something over here in a book,

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then you'll get something here on the next

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book, and you just kind of just said,

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I ain't doing all that, and just bam.

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Hell no, dude.

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I love that.

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Just mix it all in and call it

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good.

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Let it roll.

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Go from there.

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So... Street level justice versus comic...

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Well, no,

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we're not going to do that because you

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just gave me that answer.

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We're going to...

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I love when I get ahead of, like,

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the person gets ahead of what I want

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to talk about and we just kind of,

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everything flows nicely and it just makes

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my life so much easier.

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But it throws off my pacing.

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But what is epic at its core?

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I think it is,

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it's a story about a hero who didn't

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ask to be a hero.

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You know,

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somebody who just wanted to be normal,

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who was happy with the way they were.

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And they were thrust into a situation

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against their will.

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And now they're at the epicenter of

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everything that's going on.

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And they're dealing with it in real time.

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And we're dealing with it with them.

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You know, like I said,

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there's no prep time.

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The minute he's epic, he's epic.

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You know, there is no...

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He didn't get to live in Smallville as

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a child and jump over haystacks and throw

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cranes.

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He didn't get to go study with assassins.

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He didn't get to be...

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He's a college kid.

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Up until the day before,

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that's all he knew.

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He just wanted to graduate.

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And that's where the comic book starts,

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right there.

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Yeah.

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Up until that day,

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he just wanted to get through school,

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you know?

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So that's how fast it changes,

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and it's a real-time...

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It's a real-time ride.

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Like, we're riding it in real time.

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Like, you get to see in real time.

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You don't get to see him really take

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a break and be like, all right, cool.

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Everything's quiet today.

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Let's focus on... No, it's all...

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It's all the time.

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Is it cool if we bring it up

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real quick?

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Yeah, we can look at some of it.

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Yeah, I guess, yeah,

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we can pop it up.

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Um... Ooh...

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I'm trying to think where it's at.

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Oh, it's on the website.

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So, I mean,

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I know I have all this stuff saved

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somewhere.

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All right, you know what?

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We got to do it this way.

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I thought I had it already pulled up

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for us, but I guess not.

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But we're going to take two seconds and

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pull it up here.

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That's all.

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We put the commercial right here.

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I don't do commercials, man.

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I'll just cut that part out.

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All right.

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We just started on the website.

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We'll just bring up the website.

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Oh, for the prequel?

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Yeah.

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All right.

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Here we go.

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Let me add this in.

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Share screen.

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Window.

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Boom.

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Share.

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Edit.

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There we go.

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See if he'll let me control it from

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over here.

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There we go.

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Yeah, so the main character is right here.

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Uh-huh.

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It's not going to let me click.

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No.

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It's all good, though.

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We can at least show them what it

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looks like and then show them the...

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I thought she was going to pop up

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the preview.

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That's fine, too,

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if you want to show it.

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Where's the preview at on the website?

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I didn't put it on there.

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I only sent it out.

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Oh, that's right.

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It's in my email.

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Hang on.

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I only got it specific.

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I sent it out to specific people.

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I didn't want to give away too much

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too soon.

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I just sent it out to reviewers and

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podcasters.

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People who I knew who were regarded a

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certain way.

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I appreciate you saying that, man.

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That means a lot.

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Here we go.

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You good with me bringing it up still?

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Yeah, that's fine.

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Yeah, we can show some of it.

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Yeah, we'll hit them with the teaser.

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There we go.

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That cover is still so clean.

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And you know what's funny?

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I'm still up in the air about what

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the final cover is going to be.

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I got two more coming in,

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and they are amazing.

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So it's...

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It's still up in the air.

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It could change at any moment,

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even though we're like two Tuesdays away.

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It could change at any moment.

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We're getting there, man.

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Let's not get too far ahead on that

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Kickstarter.

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Let's show them some of this.

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This is just so clean.

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Appreciate it.

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Yeah.

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You know,

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it took a while to grab the right

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artist.

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But, you know,

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I was looking for somebody who could

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really push emotion and

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you know, and the way Rom, he draws,

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he has a unique style,

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so I think that'll separate us,

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and then he's good with pulling emotion.

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So I thought it was going to work.

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And then even with Laura,

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the way she colors, I got, you know,

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I got a solid team,

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and that's me lettering.

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I'm getting better at it, but, you know.

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Oh, you did the lettering on this?

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Yeah, yeah.

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I've been at it for a while,

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just practicing on my stuff,

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but

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I always set it up beside the big

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guys and kind of see how they formulate

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the bubbles.

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That's how you do it, man.

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You put yourself next to the legends and

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you copy what works, man.

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They're never going to say, oh,

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you stole my style.

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They're going to be like, flattery.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Best form of flattery, right?

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Yeah, more of a style guy than anything.

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Just how, you know, how they do it.

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No,

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that's really dope that you're doing the

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lettering yourself.

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Saves you a few hundred bucks too.

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Yeah, and what I do like to do,

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I do real-time narrative, narrating.

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So the narrative blocks,

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I come up with that pretty much while

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I'm lettering.

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So it's still fun for me.

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I still get to have some fun in

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the process.

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Now with you doing that though,

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have you gotten to a point where you're

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like,

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I don't like the way this is going

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right here.

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I got to change these words right here

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because of the way you've done something.

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The cool thing about having it all at

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your fingertips is you can make those

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adjustments.

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I don't have to email somebody.

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I don't have to wait for them to

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come back.

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I can do it.

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The art is the art.

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Once that's done and that's approved,

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everything else you know narrative blocks

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and speech bubbles can can adjust i just

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you know i don't want to get it

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i had to get uh one page redone

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out of these nine so far dude one

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out of nine ain't bad dude

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no and it came back better like i

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thought it was and i love it yeah

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no that that's not a bad gig at

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all when you send you get nine pages

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back and there's only corrections on one

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one yeah i've seen editors bleed all over

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all nine of them yeah you know i

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was i was i was cool with because

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i i uh like he gets where we're

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going

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And so he has the script and we

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talk about it.

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So I'm not just giving it to somebody

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who's just looking for a check.

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He's paid.

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Don't get me wrong.

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It's a business.

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But yeah,

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he also is taking care of the characters.

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But he has a personal investment.

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Yeah, he's taking care of them.

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I think that's something we don't see

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often is when you're picking an artist or

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a colorist or an inker or whatever it

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may be,

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is don't having the same amount of

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investment in the creation as you do as

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the IP owner.

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Yeah, and I think that,

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but it comes from also being open to

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their ideas and open to their advice and

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just really making it a collaborative

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part.

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Buy-in, you gotta have buy-in.

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You know,

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if I just- Be open to listening.

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Yeah,

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if I just treat you like a tool,

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like, hey, just shut up and draw,

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that's the return I'm gonna get.

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I don't want that.

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Like,

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I need to know if this is working,

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if there's something that could be done

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better, you know,

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and he's good with that feedback.

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That's awesome, dude.

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I'm glad you found that.

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You can tell they have the buy-in because

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the art looks absolutely amazing.

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Appreciate it.

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We working.

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Let's see.

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Where are we at here?

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We were on the Kickstarter.

00:21:07.615 --> 00:21:09.737
Kickstarter comes out two weeks,

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but you have a pregame on the website.

00:21:13.974 --> 00:21:15.036
For the Kickstarter.

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Tell us about that.

00:21:16.175 --> 00:21:17.356
Because that's the first time I've seen

00:21:17.376 --> 00:21:17.656
that.

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Yeah, so what I've been offering is...

00:21:21.199 --> 00:21:23.641
If you want to buy in early...

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Submit your email.

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I'm giving you a five-page prequel.

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Alpha Origins.

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Udemsi's story.

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How this power even got to Earth in

00:21:36.627 --> 00:21:37.729
the first place.

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So you'll get the backstory...

00:21:40.617 --> 00:21:43.818
happens thousands of years before the

00:21:43.878 --> 00:21:45.960
issue takes place and that's just just for

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supporting early just a quick little

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deposit hey we'll be here as a dollar

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so you get a five page you know

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and it'll that's digital it'll come right

00:21:55.222 --> 00:21:58.565
to you no that's really cool like i

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said like i said

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I've been doing this for about a year

00:22:02.138 --> 00:22:02.459
now,

00:22:03.039 --> 00:22:04.760
and that's the first time I had seen

00:22:05.422 --> 00:22:06.542
something done like that.

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When will your Kickstarter actually go

00:22:08.943 --> 00:22:09.464
live?

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We go live.

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We go live Tuesday, February seventeenth.

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Eight a.m.

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Standard time.

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Yeah.

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So we're going to be there's going to

00:22:21.173 --> 00:22:21.815
be a whole thing.

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I got those next two, three days off.

00:22:24.336 --> 00:22:25.676
I'm going to be going crazy.

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And so I don't really stream or go

00:22:29.378 --> 00:22:30.019
live much,

00:22:30.059 --> 00:22:32.740
but I think I will that day.

00:22:32.760 --> 00:22:34.642
So that's a lie because you do comics

00:22:34.702 --> 00:22:35.143
in the car.

00:22:36.343 --> 00:22:38.884
but that's not live that is and you

00:22:38.904 --> 00:22:40.785
know why I started doing that it's funny

00:22:41.086 --> 00:22:42.586
because I don't have nobody out here to

00:22:42.625 --> 00:22:46.887
talk to about the comments so I just

00:22:46.928 --> 00:22:48.848
sit in the car and just talk to

00:22:48.888 --> 00:22:51.089
my car so I was like you know

00:22:51.109 --> 00:22:53.070
what I'm just talking to the people you

00:22:53.111 --> 00:22:54.771
know because I have a few friends here

00:22:54.791 --> 00:22:58.453
and there and we may talk on they

00:22:58.473 --> 00:23:00.755
may text me but like usually when I'm

00:23:00.795 --> 00:23:03.415
coming off of a fight read an issue

00:23:04.440 --> 00:23:05.820
And I'm excited about it.

00:23:06.320 --> 00:23:07.902
I got to get this energy off.

00:23:07.922 --> 00:23:09.343
So I just run to the car.

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You know,

00:23:09.742 --> 00:23:11.564
lately I've been at work overnight.

00:23:11.584 --> 00:23:12.684
So I've been doing it at work.

00:23:13.325 --> 00:23:15.125
But yeah, you know,

00:23:15.165 --> 00:23:16.346
but I haven't gone live.

00:23:16.467 --> 00:23:18.048
I was thinking about going live.

00:23:19.183 --> 00:23:22.826
about the wonder wonder man series but i

00:23:22.865 --> 00:23:24.386
think i'm in may i may do a

00:23:24.446 --> 00:23:27.087
live probably in regards to the release

00:23:27.147 --> 00:23:29.128
but yeah comics in my car are just

00:23:29.169 --> 00:23:31.130
born out of necessity just being excited

00:23:31.190 --> 00:23:32.590
about a book and needing to get that

00:23:32.770 --> 00:23:35.832
energy out yeah no that's a really dope

00:23:35.892 --> 00:23:37.972
thing because when i followed you and i

00:23:37.992 --> 00:23:41.115
don't know if you've seen the way my

00:23:41.134 --> 00:23:43.195
schedule looks for the month but i am

00:23:43.635 --> 00:23:45.336
this is the first time i've ever packed

00:23:45.416 --> 00:23:47.557
a month within twelve hours like i was

00:23:47.577 --> 00:23:47.758
like

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that's not a bad problem to have at

00:23:52.534 --> 00:23:55.576
all i will say it right now march

00:23:55.615 --> 00:23:59.118
is almost the same yeah that's a good

00:23:59.278 --> 00:24:03.541
story you know i always like to look

00:24:03.561 --> 00:24:05.063
through people's stuff it gives me things

00:24:05.083 --> 00:24:06.663
to talk about and bring up on the

00:24:07.144 --> 00:24:09.165
the podcast such as comics in the car

00:24:09.185 --> 00:24:10.807
which is a really dope thing you do

00:24:11.548 --> 00:24:12.949
and uh the moment i see that i

00:24:12.969 --> 00:24:14.569
was like i'm gonna be on his page

00:24:14.589 --> 00:24:15.931
for like the next thirty minutes just

00:24:15.971 --> 00:24:17.592
watching comics in the car

00:24:18.872 --> 00:24:20.413
I just started it probably about a week

00:24:20.432 --> 00:24:24.273
or two ago because KO got me started.

00:24:25.034 --> 00:24:28.634
And then I was reading various titles.

00:24:28.694 --> 00:24:30.276
I just get bored and I have it

00:24:31.236 --> 00:24:31.955
on my Amazon.

00:24:32.056 --> 00:24:33.155
I just go through and I'm like,

00:24:33.277 --> 00:24:33.757
all right, cool.

00:24:33.777 --> 00:24:34.676
This is what's going on.

00:24:35.297 --> 00:24:36.817
So, yeah.

00:24:36.877 --> 00:24:38.417
Comixology from Amazon.

00:24:39.499 --> 00:24:39.898
Yeah.

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And then,

00:24:40.199 --> 00:24:42.259
but also Brandon's comics is right up the

00:24:42.279 --> 00:24:42.700
street from me.

00:24:42.720 --> 00:24:44.819
I go to Drawing the Comics and Glendale.

00:24:44.839 --> 00:24:46.701
So Samurai Comics is right up.

00:24:46.740 --> 00:24:47.540
So if I'm out,

00:24:47.721 --> 00:24:51.583
like my first issue of Absolute Superman,

00:24:51.623 --> 00:24:53.123
I got from Samurai, I believe.

00:24:53.383 --> 00:24:54.743
And then my first issue of KO I

00:24:54.763 --> 00:24:56.263
got from Brandon's and everything else I

00:24:56.285 --> 00:24:57.644
pretty much get from Drawing the Comics.

00:24:58.200 --> 00:25:00.001
If I got time to go grab a

00:25:00.061 --> 00:25:00.823
physical copy.

00:25:03.144 --> 00:25:06.928
The only issue of the Holy Trinity of

00:25:06.968 --> 00:25:08.388
the Batman, the Superman,

00:25:08.409 --> 00:25:11.132
and the Wonder Woman I have are the

00:25:11.392 --> 00:25:13.413
Mark Spears foil variants,

00:25:13.433 --> 00:25:15.076
the connecting covers Mark Spears did.

00:25:16.196 --> 00:25:17.958
That's literally the only ones I own.

00:25:18.018 --> 00:25:20.780
And then I picked up covers from each

00:25:20.881 --> 00:25:23.002
one here and there from a specific artist

00:25:23.022 --> 00:25:23.884
that I really like.

00:25:24.990 --> 00:25:27.291
the nakayama covers and there's been a few

00:25:27.352 --> 00:25:29.334
i think kirkham covers that i've picked up

00:25:29.374 --> 00:25:31.915
here and there but it's just yeah dennis

00:25:31.955 --> 00:25:34.557
cohen did a uh absolute batman i want

00:25:34.577 --> 00:25:35.999
to say it's twelve i'm not sure that

00:25:36.640 --> 00:25:39.402
it was crazy i wish i i i

00:25:39.422 --> 00:25:41.542
wish i could get that hard copy and

00:25:41.624 --> 00:25:42.904
i saw that i was like oh he

00:25:42.944 --> 00:25:47.147
killed it but the joker the joker the

00:25:47.268 --> 00:25:48.828
intro to the joker cover with him on

00:25:48.868 --> 00:25:49.230
the cover

00:25:50.795 --> 00:25:51.715
I did get that one.

00:25:52.596 --> 00:25:53.817
So with Brandon's comics,

00:25:54.096 --> 00:25:56.218
when we went up to get KO,

00:25:57.057 --> 00:25:58.818
it was almost like a raffle or random.

00:25:59.440 --> 00:26:00.740
All the covers, all the bags,

00:26:00.759 --> 00:26:02.201
you couldn't tell what you got until you

00:26:02.320 --> 00:26:03.402
opened it.

00:26:03.602 --> 00:26:04.642
You got the blind bag.

00:26:05.182 --> 00:26:07.063
I did a couple of the KO blind

00:26:07.083 --> 00:26:08.564
bags just to see what I was going

00:26:08.584 --> 00:26:08.983
to get.

00:26:09.704 --> 00:26:12.445
I did the Mark Spears blind bags.

00:26:13.467 --> 00:26:16.807
And then I did the Elvira Harley Quinn

00:26:16.827 --> 00:26:19.309
blind bag, which was really cool to see.

00:26:23.228 --> 00:26:24.028
If you're going to gamble,

00:26:24.068 --> 00:26:25.369
gamble on a comic book, right?

00:26:25.851 --> 00:26:28.353
Right.

00:26:28.492 --> 00:26:29.153
That's more fun.

00:26:29.314 --> 00:26:30.555
I'd rather do that than go to a

00:26:30.595 --> 00:26:31.556
casino or something.

00:26:32.256 --> 00:26:32.777
You never know.

00:26:32.997 --> 00:26:34.978
I pulled one of the Mark Spears covers

00:26:34.998 --> 00:26:36.880
that I wanted on his Winter Wonderland

00:26:36.940 --> 00:26:37.500
ones he did.

00:26:38.340 --> 00:26:39.682
The moment I opened it and Cindy was

00:26:39.722 --> 00:26:40.522
there, I was like,

00:26:44.547 --> 00:26:46.989
immediately bag and board.

00:26:47.028 --> 00:26:47.608
Simple as that.

00:26:49.252 --> 00:26:49.614
Because I mean,

00:26:49.634 --> 00:26:51.275
I've already read the entire series and

00:26:51.315 --> 00:26:53.596
it's just like he'll do new covers for

00:26:53.636 --> 00:26:54.597
him and stuff like that.

00:26:55.198 --> 00:26:57.380
But it's just really cool to get those

00:26:57.420 --> 00:26:59.481
and just they're fun because you don't

00:26:59.501 --> 00:27:00.083
know.

00:27:00.123 --> 00:27:01.824
There's like twenty five,

00:27:01.884 --> 00:27:04.086
thirty covers that are possible and.

00:27:05.667 --> 00:27:06.528
And you gamble, man.

00:27:06.929 --> 00:27:08.849
Exactly, exactly.

00:27:08.910 --> 00:27:10.432
I was thinking about doing something like

00:27:10.471 --> 00:27:10.711
that,

00:27:10.751 --> 00:27:12.814
a blind bag or either having an artist

00:27:12.834 --> 00:27:12.874
or

00:27:14.703 --> 00:27:16.746
uh putting one in the tears and just

00:27:16.766 --> 00:27:19.469
having my artist whoever picks the blank

00:27:19.509 --> 00:27:22.992
cover whatever he draws they get you know

00:27:23.012 --> 00:27:24.614
that'd be really cool i've never seen them

00:27:24.914 --> 00:27:26.375
seen that done before either i was i

00:27:26.395 --> 00:27:27.718
was i was thinking i mean i've seen

00:27:27.738 --> 00:27:29.479
them do blind bags but it was like

00:27:29.519 --> 00:27:32.061
blind bags of like previous comics and

00:27:32.542 --> 00:27:35.546
maybe some like stuff that they probably

00:27:35.586 --> 00:27:36.247
didn't sell

00:27:37.699 --> 00:27:38.941
on the original Kickstarter,

00:27:38.961 --> 00:27:40.564
but they had already ordered stuff in

00:27:40.704 --> 00:27:41.144
bulk.

00:27:42.166 --> 00:27:43.911
They just shoved them into a blind bag,

00:27:43.931 --> 00:27:44.992
which is kind of cool too.

00:27:45.492 --> 00:27:47.596
But to get a custom cover from

00:27:48.797 --> 00:27:50.857
The artist would be really dope to do.

00:27:51.218 --> 00:27:51.478
Yeah,

00:27:51.898 --> 00:27:53.479
I'm trying to figure out some things just

00:27:53.499 --> 00:27:54.500
to make it a little different.

00:27:54.519 --> 00:27:55.540
This is my first one.

00:27:55.980 --> 00:27:57.382
You know, I'll first go around.

00:27:57.402 --> 00:27:58.541
I did it all out of my pocket.

00:27:58.582 --> 00:28:00.123
I sold books all out of my pocket.

00:28:00.143 --> 00:28:03.724
But I was looking at just the community

00:28:04.224 --> 00:28:05.665
of crowdfunding,

00:28:05.685 --> 00:28:07.267
just the community in itself.

00:28:07.606 --> 00:28:08.928
I was like, this is a...

00:28:09.667 --> 00:28:10.929
Just to be in it.

00:28:10.949 --> 00:28:11.808
Just to see who's in it.

00:28:11.828 --> 00:28:12.609
It's amazing.

00:28:12.670 --> 00:28:16.151
Yeah, it's a good place to be in.

00:28:16.171 --> 00:28:16.832
So I was like,

00:28:16.912 --> 00:28:19.093
let's do this one and see how it

00:28:19.133 --> 00:28:21.814
goes from here.

00:28:21.894 --> 00:28:22.153
Oh, yeah.

00:28:23.775 --> 00:28:24.875
I'll shoot you...

00:28:25.855 --> 00:28:28.257
It's basically like a Kickstarter how-to.

00:28:28.738 --> 00:28:31.739
It's a two-part series done by Bruno

00:28:31.778 --> 00:28:32.439
Caterino.

00:28:33.059 --> 00:28:34.279
I'll shoot that over to you.

00:28:35.040 --> 00:28:36.381
And it's just some good,

00:28:36.441 --> 00:28:37.481
quick lessons learned.

00:28:39.747 --> 00:28:41.015
I mean, it's really good.

00:28:43.134 --> 00:28:44.635
Yeah, I need it, man.

00:28:44.695 --> 00:28:45.976
Like I said, I've been YouTube Universe.

00:28:45.996 --> 00:28:46.816
I've been reaching out, though.

00:28:46.836 --> 00:28:49.237
The cool thing about it is I've reached

00:28:49.356 --> 00:28:50.958
out to some people who have successful

00:28:50.978 --> 00:28:51.617
campaigns,

00:28:52.159 --> 00:28:54.699
and they've been real upfront with the

00:28:54.739 --> 00:28:55.640
good and the bad,

00:28:55.700 --> 00:28:57.119
and they've been sharing information.

00:28:57.140 --> 00:28:59.740
So I definitely appreciate all of those

00:28:59.780 --> 00:29:00.041
guys.

00:29:00.061 --> 00:29:01.521
So that's one good thing I can say.

00:29:02.041 --> 00:29:03.782
Guys who've had successful Kickstarters

00:29:04.182 --> 00:29:05.042
don't really gatekeep.

00:29:05.063 --> 00:29:07.064
They don't mind sharing what worked so

00:29:07.104 --> 00:29:07.364
far.

00:29:07.483 --> 00:29:09.424
And that's what's great about the indie

00:29:09.464 --> 00:29:11.286
community, both on Facebook...

00:29:12.125 --> 00:29:14.728
and basically anywhere like you just reach

00:29:14.807 --> 00:29:17.148
out to people wait a couple of days

00:29:17.189 --> 00:29:18.730
and nine times out of ten you don't

00:29:18.750 --> 00:29:19.769
even have to wait a couple of days

00:29:19.809 --> 00:29:20.851
they just hit you right back and be

00:29:20.871 --> 00:29:23.531
like hey what you need i can help

00:29:23.571 --> 00:29:25.373
you and eat in the groups on facebook

00:29:25.413 --> 00:29:27.173
or some of the most helpful places ever

00:29:28.474 --> 00:29:30.175
they don't guys there's some good guys in

00:29:30.215 --> 00:29:31.916
those groups and they don't hold nothing

00:29:31.936 --> 00:29:33.897
back even if they don't like it they're

00:29:33.917 --> 00:29:35.179
gonna be like hey i don't know about

00:29:35.219 --> 00:29:35.479
this

00:29:36.275 --> 00:29:37.355
Yeah,

00:29:37.395 --> 00:29:38.896
but what works for some may not work

00:29:38.917 --> 00:29:39.357
for others.

00:29:39.397 --> 00:29:41.380
So it's good to have all that information

00:29:41.440 --> 00:29:42.401
right at your fingertips.

00:29:42.780 --> 00:29:44.382
And that way you can try certain things

00:29:44.402 --> 00:29:45.844
to see what works for your campaign.

00:29:46.913 --> 00:29:47.933
Oh, yeah.

00:29:47.973 --> 00:29:49.634
And the biggest thing, you know,

00:29:49.835 --> 00:29:52.715
I've seen throughout this is just keep it

00:29:52.756 --> 00:29:54.436
as simple as possible in the first go

00:29:54.576 --> 00:29:54.757
out.

00:29:55.297 --> 00:29:55.517
Yeah.

00:29:56.018 --> 00:29:57.417
And then because you're going to pick up

00:29:57.438 --> 00:29:59.919
your own lessons learned through that.

00:30:00.479 --> 00:30:01.519
And then the next one,

00:30:01.539 --> 00:30:03.039
you can go all out, you know.

00:30:03.780 --> 00:30:04.020
Yeah.

00:30:04.121 --> 00:30:06.142
And that was I had to scale myself

00:30:06.201 --> 00:30:08.041
back because even though.

00:30:08.843 --> 00:30:09.063
Yeah.

00:30:09.103 --> 00:30:10.143
But even though this is my first

00:30:10.202 --> 00:30:10.784
Kickstarter,

00:30:10.824 --> 00:30:12.503
this isn't my first time releasing books.

00:30:12.943 --> 00:30:14.484
So I had to I just had it.

00:30:15.267 --> 00:30:16.346
This is your first Kickstarter.

00:30:16.366 --> 00:30:17.428
This is your first Kickstarter.

00:30:17.448 --> 00:30:18.067
You know what I mean?

00:30:18.448 --> 00:30:21.930
So I was ready to go a thousand

00:30:21.970 --> 00:30:22.589
miles per hour.

00:30:22.630 --> 00:30:23.049
I said, no,

00:30:23.069 --> 00:30:24.191
I got to do this the right way.

00:30:24.211 --> 00:30:26.311
I got to take my baby steps so

00:30:26.392 --> 00:30:27.152
I can learn.

00:30:27.291 --> 00:30:28.732
That way, if somebody asks me,

00:30:28.853 --> 00:30:30.633
I can be like, hey, you know,

00:30:30.913 --> 00:30:33.354
this is what I learned and this worked

00:30:33.554 --> 00:30:33.755
for me.

00:30:33.775 --> 00:30:34.295
Give me a second.

00:30:34.335 --> 00:30:34.654
We got it.

00:30:38.732 --> 00:30:41.253
man hey i'm in arizona man outside dude

00:30:41.614 --> 00:30:44.596
so i just you know it's rare many

00:30:44.615 --> 00:30:47.538
years ago yeah the early two thousands

00:30:47.597 --> 00:30:49.179
yeah i live down in tucson oh yeah

00:30:50.279 --> 00:30:52.161
yeah i'm in uh i'm in i'm in

00:30:52.181 --> 00:30:54.122
tempe probably about twenty minutes from

00:30:54.182 --> 00:30:58.265
phoenix yeah i love it dude that's that's

00:30:58.285 --> 00:30:59.306
one of my favorite areas

00:31:00.226 --> 00:31:01.586
I got friends that still live there,

00:31:02.007 --> 00:31:03.407
still own houses there and everything

00:31:03.508 --> 00:31:03.768
else.

00:31:04.489 --> 00:31:06.068
We barbecue on Christmas, dude.

00:31:06.529 --> 00:31:07.569
Just to let you know.

00:31:08.330 --> 00:31:09.631
I miss that shit sometimes.

00:31:09.692 --> 00:31:10.751
I'm not even going to lie.

00:31:11.011 --> 00:31:13.273
Then there's days where I see the

00:31:13.294 --> 00:31:14.693
temperature is a hundred and twenty there

00:31:14.773 --> 00:31:18.256
and I'm like, I'm good.

00:31:18.576 --> 00:31:20.357
And it's midnight.

00:31:21.657 --> 00:31:22.558
You can't run from it.

00:31:23.217 --> 00:31:25.439
Dude, I remember, it's funny,

00:31:25.779 --> 00:31:27.361
there was a car wash in Tucson.

00:31:27.381 --> 00:31:29.103
They had a twenty four hour rain

00:31:29.182 --> 00:31:29.942
guarantee.

00:31:30.784 --> 00:31:32.405
So if it rained within twenty four hours,

00:31:32.445 --> 00:31:35.028
you could go back with your receipt and

00:31:35.048 --> 00:31:36.569
they would rewash your car for you.

00:31:36.890 --> 00:31:37.289
Oh, wow.

00:31:37.309 --> 00:31:40.232
Dude, my luck,

00:31:40.252 --> 00:31:41.413
the only time I went there,

00:31:41.493 --> 00:31:44.457
it rained on the way back.

00:31:44.517 --> 00:31:45.857
You couldn't even get out of the parking

00:31:45.897 --> 00:31:45.959
lot.

00:31:49.597 --> 00:31:50.419
It happens, man.

00:31:50.439 --> 00:31:51.920
The weather's so funny here.

00:31:53.881 --> 00:31:54.021
Oh, yeah.

00:31:54.122 --> 00:31:55.142
Especially with rain.

00:31:55.201 --> 00:31:56.564
We don't even take rain that serious

00:31:56.584 --> 00:31:57.845
because we know in five more minutes,

00:31:57.924 --> 00:31:58.585
it's going to be hot again.

00:31:58.605 --> 00:32:00.306
Yeah.

00:32:00.346 --> 00:32:00.846
And then, you know,

00:32:00.866 --> 00:32:03.249
what's also funny is you go an hour

00:32:03.628 --> 00:32:04.529
northeast.

00:32:05.130 --> 00:32:05.851
And it's freezing.

00:32:06.290 --> 00:32:06.991
And it's snowing.

00:32:07.612 --> 00:32:07.811
Yeah.

00:32:07.992 --> 00:32:09.314
I've been snowboarding up there.

00:32:10.595 --> 00:32:10.835
Yeah.

00:32:10.875 --> 00:32:13.156
Sedona, Flagstaff, Prescott.

00:32:14.309 --> 00:32:14.990
Coolidge.

00:32:15.551 --> 00:32:18.416
I mean, you can get four seasons.

00:32:19.932 --> 00:32:20.372
An hour,

00:32:20.432 --> 00:32:21.573
hour and a half outside the city.

00:32:21.593 --> 00:32:22.394
Yeah, that's crazy.

00:32:24.776 --> 00:32:26.397
So have you already built the Kickstarter,

00:32:26.518 --> 00:32:27.298
own Kickstarter?

00:32:27.858 --> 00:32:28.659
Yes.

00:32:28.859 --> 00:32:30.641
I'm doing some plug and play this weekend.

00:32:31.321 --> 00:32:32.563
I'm working on the intro.

00:32:32.643 --> 00:32:34.545
I'll be swapping my intro.

00:32:35.105 --> 00:32:37.047
And then, like I said,

00:32:37.106 --> 00:32:38.728
I'll be looking at these other covers.

00:32:39.328 --> 00:32:41.289
And I may or may not change the

00:32:41.329 --> 00:32:41.730
cover.

00:32:41.851 --> 00:32:43.192
But it's already tiered out.

00:32:43.251 --> 00:32:45.193
It's already ready to go.

00:32:45.794 --> 00:32:48.256
Yeah, like I didn't want to be...

00:32:48.375 --> 00:32:49.577
You can pre-build.

00:32:50.417 --> 00:32:50.919
That's the best.

00:32:50.959 --> 00:32:51.679
I've been pre-building.

00:32:51.700 --> 00:32:52.519
Yeah,

00:32:52.539 --> 00:32:53.780
I've been doing it probably for about a

00:32:53.820 --> 00:32:54.342
month or so.

00:32:54.402 --> 00:32:56.022
I've been just chipping away at it and

00:32:56.042 --> 00:32:57.644
just learning what works and what didn't

00:32:57.704 --> 00:32:57.884
work.

00:32:57.944 --> 00:32:59.767
And so, yeah, I got a link.

00:32:59.807 --> 00:33:00.988
I'll send it to you if...

00:33:01.127 --> 00:33:02.650
I'll send you a preview so you can

00:33:02.670 --> 00:33:03.009
kind of... Yeah,

00:33:03.029 --> 00:33:04.371
if you want to shoot that to me,

00:33:04.451 --> 00:33:06.573
I can include it in the...

00:33:09.082 --> 00:33:10.542
the description of this video,

00:33:11.124 --> 00:33:12.964
the way it's there when it, you know,

00:33:13.005 --> 00:33:14.405
the Kickstarter actually goes live.

00:33:14.425 --> 00:33:15.366
The link is still there.

00:33:15.406 --> 00:33:15.606
Cool.

00:33:15.646 --> 00:33:16.028
Yeah.

00:33:16.147 --> 00:33:18.349
Yeah.

00:33:18.789 --> 00:33:20.371
I think I put in the link may

00:33:20.411 --> 00:33:21.511
have been on the,

00:33:21.632 --> 00:33:22.732
in the email as well.

00:33:23.354 --> 00:33:25.015
It may have been, I'll double check it.

00:33:25.075 --> 00:33:26.635
But when I shoot you the, um,

00:33:27.416 --> 00:33:28.577
the other stuff that I told you I

00:33:28.597 --> 00:33:29.219
would send you,

00:33:29.699 --> 00:33:30.759
I will double check everything.

00:33:31.279 --> 00:33:31.460
Okay.

00:33:31.480 --> 00:33:31.861
But, um,

00:33:32.990 --> 00:33:34.010
No, it was funny.

00:33:34.330 --> 00:33:36.132
I was sitting here waiting for you to

00:33:36.952 --> 00:33:39.575
get to your nephew's house,

00:33:39.934 --> 00:33:43.517
and I got a notification of a Kickstarter

00:33:43.537 --> 00:33:44.077
start, and I'm like,

00:33:44.298 --> 00:33:45.178
let me check this out.

00:33:46.499 --> 00:33:48.000
I've seen some good Kickstarters.

00:33:48.121 --> 00:33:49.842
I've seen some amazing Kickstarters,

00:33:51.623 --> 00:33:53.144
and the Kickstarter I just seen was

00:33:53.183 --> 00:33:55.986
probably the worst thing I've ever seen.

00:33:56.026 --> 00:33:57.926
It was not put together very well.

00:33:58.106 --> 00:33:58.688
It just...

00:34:00.426 --> 00:34:02.667
it looked like he last minute launched

00:34:03.048 --> 00:34:05.108
without doing anything ahead of time and

00:34:05.148 --> 00:34:08.050
it was just the the gift and the

00:34:08.090 --> 00:34:11.291
curse about it it really is yeah the

00:34:11.311 --> 00:34:13.172
story looks really fun but it was so

00:34:13.211 --> 00:34:14.851
disorganized i couldn't even like look

00:34:14.891 --> 00:34:16.353
through it i was just like i can't

00:34:16.373 --> 00:34:18.253
do this i can't look at it the

00:34:18.293 --> 00:34:19.793
the problem the problem

00:34:21.333 --> 00:34:22.856
I don't know the creator,

00:34:22.896 --> 00:34:24.038
but if he's on an island,

00:34:24.418 --> 00:34:25.498
he's not really going to know what

00:34:25.579 --> 00:34:26.199
resources.

00:34:26.219 --> 00:34:28.342
And I don't mean a literal island,

00:34:28.362 --> 00:34:30.125
but if he's off in a corner creating

00:34:30.164 --> 00:34:30.786
by himself,

00:34:31.246 --> 00:34:32.909
he may not know what's available to him.

00:34:32.949 --> 00:34:34.110
And a lot of times we get in

00:34:34.150 --> 00:34:35.211
our way, we won't ask.

00:34:36.748 --> 00:34:39.409
This is his fourth book.

00:34:39.469 --> 00:34:41.110
He had a whole slew of other books.

00:34:41.431 --> 00:34:42.070
And they fund it?

00:34:42.170 --> 00:34:43.192
It may work for him.

00:34:43.351 --> 00:34:44.132
That chaos.

00:34:45.673 --> 00:34:48.016
It was just way too chaotic for me

00:34:48.036 --> 00:34:49.297
to look at.

00:34:50.637 --> 00:34:52.318
I got to be neat and organized.

00:34:52.338 --> 00:34:53.478
It's got to be laid out.

00:34:54.199 --> 00:34:55.300
It's got to make sense.

00:34:55.661 --> 00:34:56.581
As you go, it's got to

00:34:57.181 --> 00:34:58.023
Yeah, it got to reveal.

00:34:58.083 --> 00:34:58.322
Yeah.

00:34:58.443 --> 00:35:00.224
And so I work chaotic,

00:35:00.244 --> 00:35:01.764
but my results are usually neat.

00:35:02.224 --> 00:35:04.086
So that's how I am.

00:35:05.266 --> 00:35:06.168
By the time I'm done,

00:35:06.208 --> 00:35:07.548
everything around me is going to look like

00:35:07.568 --> 00:35:08.349
complete hell.

00:35:09.510 --> 00:35:10.351
But in front of me is going to

00:35:10.371 --> 00:35:11.371
be perfect.

00:35:13.072 --> 00:35:14.532
It's going to be as excellent as I

00:35:14.572 --> 00:35:15.054
can make it.

00:35:15.173 --> 00:35:15.673
But yeah,

00:35:15.733 --> 00:35:16.934
the process is going to be like, oh,

00:35:16.954 --> 00:35:17.976
my God, what is he doing?

00:35:18.016 --> 00:35:18.356
But yeah.

00:35:19.115 --> 00:35:20.655
You see that because I go through just

00:35:20.757 --> 00:35:22.597
out of being nosy and just out of

00:35:23.117 --> 00:35:24.856
just wanting knowledge.

00:35:25.478 --> 00:35:27.538
I'm like, okay, what looks like it works?

00:35:27.557 --> 00:35:28.538
What doesn't look like it works?

00:35:28.557 --> 00:35:30.039
Sometimes you see people who got too much

00:35:30.059 --> 00:35:30.358
stuff.

00:35:30.659 --> 00:35:32.039
Sometimes people don't have enough.

00:35:32.119 --> 00:35:33.659
It's finding that healthy medium.

00:35:34.239 --> 00:35:35.639
Yeah, it really is.

00:35:35.699 --> 00:35:37.539
And I'm glad we're talking about

00:35:37.599 --> 00:35:38.760
Kickstarter in this way.

00:35:38.820 --> 00:35:43.161
What can backers expect from Epic when it

00:35:43.201 --> 00:35:43.742
drops?

00:35:44.842 --> 00:35:45.061
Yeah.

00:35:46.347 --> 00:35:50.170
What you can expect is I'm trying to

00:35:50.411 --> 00:35:53.333
take you on a ride through the campaign

00:35:53.653 --> 00:35:54.934
without giving up too much,

00:35:55.094 --> 00:35:56.635
still leaving some excitement for the

00:35:56.675 --> 00:35:56.936
book.

00:35:57.237 --> 00:35:58.757
So you'll get the gist of what's going

00:35:58.838 --> 00:35:58.918
on.

00:35:58.938 --> 00:36:00.079
You'll get to see some panels.

00:36:00.358 --> 00:36:04.121
I'll throw in something that I probably

00:36:04.141 --> 00:36:06.603
shouldn't share just to kind of let you

00:36:06.623 --> 00:36:07.744
know, hey, it's real.

00:36:07.764 --> 00:36:08.666
It's a whole universe.

00:36:08.686 --> 00:36:10.748
And I may even share some other things

00:36:10.788 --> 00:36:12.628
that we have going on because I'm

00:36:12.668 --> 00:36:13.510
incorporating.

00:36:13.809 --> 00:36:14.389
I do film.

00:36:15.327 --> 00:36:16.088
and video.

00:36:17.489 --> 00:36:18.989
We have a series called Catch Him,

00:36:19.369 --> 00:36:21.652
which is a mixture of a comic book

00:36:22.152 --> 00:36:25.414
and a live-action web series.

00:36:25.516 --> 00:36:26.896
I do have the trailer for that.

00:36:26.936 --> 00:36:28.157
I was thinking about popping that in

00:36:28.177 --> 00:36:28.518
there.

00:36:29.478 --> 00:36:30.659
We are looking at...

00:36:31.981 --> 00:36:32.862
You'll get the whole...

00:36:33.998 --> 00:36:34.378
idea,

00:36:35.280 --> 00:36:36.360
you'll leave with a sample of the

00:36:36.440 --> 00:36:36.880
universe.

00:36:37.242 --> 00:36:38.583
You'll leave knowing, hey,

00:36:38.603 --> 00:36:40.364
it's not just a book, it's a journey.

00:36:41.045 --> 00:36:42.186
And if I want to be a part

00:36:42.206 --> 00:36:42.945
of that journey,

00:36:43.567 --> 00:36:44.708
I can be a part of it on

00:36:44.728 --> 00:36:45.588
the apparel side.

00:36:45.688 --> 00:36:46.909
I can be a part on the comic

00:36:46.949 --> 00:36:47.250
side.

00:36:47.349 --> 00:36:48.291
I can be a part of it,

00:36:49.050 --> 00:36:50.472
you know, in a live action side.

00:36:50.572 --> 00:36:53.034
You'll have options and avenues to come

00:36:53.054 --> 00:36:54.074
take this journey with us.

00:36:54.094 --> 00:36:55.376
It's not just one way in,

00:36:55.876 --> 00:36:58.619
but this is our initial offering.

00:36:59.414 --> 00:37:02.635
Do you have any rewards set up for

00:37:02.675 --> 00:37:03.036
people?

00:37:03.335 --> 00:37:04.317
I know you got the one for the

00:37:04.416 --> 00:37:06.498
early sign-up on the website,

00:37:06.539 --> 00:37:07.699
but are you going to have anything for

00:37:07.759 --> 00:37:09.619
backers as they back the comic book?

00:37:09.920 --> 00:37:11.101
Yeah, and...

00:37:11.161 --> 00:37:12.762
Like certain stretch goals or anything

00:37:12.802 --> 00:37:13.523
like that?

00:37:13.563 --> 00:37:15.003
So our stretch goals,

00:37:15.963 --> 00:37:19.527
without putting too much pressure on my

00:37:19.706 --> 00:37:20.106
artists,

00:37:20.626 --> 00:37:23.688
I really want to stretch to get the

00:37:23.768 --> 00:37:24.210
issue to...

00:37:26.137 --> 00:37:31.001
done so um and some ash cans done

00:37:31.581 --> 00:37:34.384
of some other things that show different

00:37:34.563 --> 00:37:37.266
aspects of the universe so i have twelve

00:37:37.567 --> 00:37:40.608
so i have three stories side stories

00:37:40.648 --> 00:37:44.572
written that'll go perfect and then um

00:37:45.932 --> 00:37:48.014
epic is done up to about thirty two

00:37:48.074 --> 00:37:48.434
issues

00:37:50.242 --> 00:37:53.003
You've spent the time And you've already

00:37:53.023 --> 00:37:54.806
got everything Yeah,

00:37:54.846 --> 00:38:00.309
we got thirty-two issues I got two Two

00:38:00.349 --> 00:38:01.210
graphic novels

00:38:02.349 --> 00:38:03.650
that are not about Epic,

00:38:03.670 --> 00:38:04.590
about other characters,

00:38:04.630 --> 00:38:05.913
and then I'm working on something,

00:38:05.952 --> 00:38:06.833
and then, like I said,

00:38:06.873 --> 00:38:10.677
we're writing scripts as well as comics to

00:38:10.697 --> 00:38:11.699
try to kind of mingle them.

00:38:11.759 --> 00:38:12.059
So, yeah.

00:38:12.539 --> 00:38:14.802
So do you plan at any point, like,

00:38:15.442 --> 00:38:16.503
taking a pause on the,

00:38:17.003 --> 00:38:18.746
not necessarily the books, but to do,

00:38:18.766 --> 00:38:18.945
like,

00:38:18.965 --> 00:38:20.788
a trade paperback or something like that

00:38:20.827 --> 00:38:23.090
of, like, how to get books?

00:38:23.170 --> 00:38:23.610
Um,

00:38:24.581 --> 00:38:26.364
I'm tinkering with one in my head,

00:38:26.505 --> 00:38:27.907
like a three book series.

00:38:28.527 --> 00:38:29.949
And it's a massive undertaking.

00:38:30.009 --> 00:38:32.432
So right now I'm at the concept of

00:38:32.512 --> 00:38:33.094
book one,

00:38:33.693 --> 00:38:36.277
but I do have one of my characters,

00:38:36.318 --> 00:38:38.960
Lotto, his trade paperback is written in,

00:38:40.181 --> 00:38:42.704
And it goes up until he gets into...

00:38:42.764 --> 00:38:45.224
I think he comes in issue four.

00:38:45.744 --> 00:38:48.507
So it follows his journey up until issue

00:38:48.527 --> 00:38:50.047
four and then goes a little past it

00:38:50.067 --> 00:38:52.228
and then brings him back into the book.

00:38:52.268 --> 00:38:56.690
So most of my trades will follow the

00:38:56.731 --> 00:38:59.211
characters as they come into the story.

00:38:59.231 --> 00:39:01.753
It'll be whatever happened prior to them

00:39:01.773 --> 00:39:02.273
getting there.

00:39:02.393 --> 00:39:03.233
Gotcha, gotcha.

00:39:03.253 --> 00:39:05.635
But you're not going to at any point

00:39:05.675 --> 00:39:06.416
just do like...

00:39:07.195 --> 00:39:09.637
Like, hey, here's volume one of, like,

00:39:09.677 --> 00:39:10.478
the book, and it's, like,

00:39:10.677 --> 00:39:12.878
issues one through five or one through six

00:39:12.898 --> 00:39:14.418
or something like that.

00:39:14.498 --> 00:39:15.440
Every run we do?

00:39:16.139 --> 00:39:16.480
Yes.

00:39:17.019 --> 00:39:17.601
Short answer, yeah.

00:39:17.621 --> 00:39:19.260
Because the Alpha Strand will be a three

00:39:19.320 --> 00:39:21.262
issue, and then Lotto's Home,

00:39:21.402 --> 00:39:22.503
then Noble Intentions,

00:39:22.722 --> 00:39:23.643
and then Earth's Shadow.

00:39:23.923 --> 00:39:24.184
So, yeah,

00:39:24.224 --> 00:39:25.784
it'll probably be four different ones.

00:39:26.405 --> 00:39:26.844
Right now,

00:39:26.864 --> 00:39:30.507
you're sitting outside enjoying the nice

00:39:30.567 --> 00:39:30.907
weather.

00:39:31.547 --> 00:39:32.887
I'm getting sleep, and it's, like,

00:39:33.068 --> 00:39:33.987
thirty-two degrees.

00:39:34.007 --> 00:39:34.648
Okay.

00:39:36.302 --> 00:39:38.304
I won't hold the phone up and show

00:39:38.324 --> 00:39:38.804
you the sun.

00:39:38.844 --> 00:39:39.284
I won't do that.

00:39:39.324 --> 00:39:40.184
I do that to my friends.

00:39:40.204 --> 00:39:41.043
Don't do me dirty like that.

00:39:41.063 --> 00:39:42.105
Don't do me dirty like that.

00:39:42.144 --> 00:39:44.204
I hold the phone up and show them.

00:39:44.224 --> 00:39:45.364
Because then I'll get to missing it.

00:39:45.425 --> 00:39:46.246
And then I'm like,

00:39:46.786 --> 00:39:48.606
Arizona's just gotten way too expensive,

00:39:48.626 --> 00:39:48.945
man.

00:39:49.086 --> 00:39:50.726
Otherwise, I'd already be living there.

00:39:51.086 --> 00:39:51.947
It used to be,

00:39:52.086 --> 00:39:54.047
before the housing market crashed...

00:39:54.923 --> 00:39:57.505
You could get a nice house for a

00:39:57.585 --> 00:39:58.625
decent amount of money.

00:39:58.704 --> 00:40:00.465
It was when it crashed,

00:40:00.485 --> 00:40:01.485
something like that.

00:40:05.146 --> 00:40:07.467
Up until then, this was prime.

00:40:08.487 --> 00:40:09.528
You might as well stay where you at.

00:40:11.009 --> 00:40:12.028
You might as well stay where you are.

00:40:12.048 --> 00:40:13.070
It feels good, man.

00:40:13.110 --> 00:40:16.090
You're rubbing it in now.

00:40:16.110 --> 00:40:19.052
You're rubbing it in now.

00:40:21.800 --> 00:40:23.760
It feels good.

00:40:24.181 --> 00:40:29.505
But yeah, man, each volume, like I said,

00:40:29.525 --> 00:40:31.206
we'll probably do The Alpha Strand,

00:40:32.746 --> 00:40:34.188
Lotto's Home, Noble Intentions,

00:40:34.228 --> 00:40:35.009
and Earthshadow.

00:40:36.289 --> 00:40:37.550
And then in there,

00:40:37.731 --> 00:40:39.632
we'll probably do Lotto's Trade Paperback

00:40:39.731 --> 00:40:40.492
Under Siege.

00:40:41.072 --> 00:40:42.193
And then we'll do another one.

00:40:42.313 --> 00:40:45.396
And then I have side stories that run

00:40:45.436 --> 00:40:47.036
parallel to the book.

00:40:47.536 --> 00:40:49.759
And then they come across in year two.

00:40:50.632 --> 00:40:50.791
Okay,

00:40:50.811 --> 00:40:52.313
and they actually come into the book.

00:40:52.554 --> 00:40:53.273
Yeah, yeah.

00:40:54.675 --> 00:40:55.074
I like that.

00:40:55.596 --> 00:40:55.835
And see,

00:40:55.856 --> 00:40:57.077
what I want to do is give those

00:40:57.117 --> 00:40:57.858
away for free.

00:40:58.478 --> 00:41:00.239
So I'll probably do like a four page

00:41:00.940 --> 00:41:01.539
every month,

00:41:01.740 --> 00:41:03.802
probably starting at issue three or issue

00:41:03.842 --> 00:41:04.161
four,

00:41:04.802 --> 00:41:06.264
and then just take you on that journey.

00:41:06.284 --> 00:41:06.744
So that way,

00:41:06.764 --> 00:41:08.465
when they intersect into the book,

00:41:09.166 --> 00:41:10.686
it won't seem like these characters came

00:41:10.746 --> 00:41:11.268
out of nowhere.

00:41:12.556 --> 00:41:13.657
No, I like that, man,

00:41:13.677 --> 00:41:15.097
because that's really dope.

00:41:15.378 --> 00:41:17.858
Post it to your Instagram or your

00:41:17.898 --> 00:41:18.498
Facebook.

00:41:19.219 --> 00:41:20.398
It'll probably be...

00:41:20.679 --> 00:41:22.759
I want to create a back channel or

00:41:22.778 --> 00:41:23.780
a secret channel,

00:41:23.800 --> 00:41:28.141
a secret page that through apparel and

00:41:28.260 --> 00:41:29.001
other things,

00:41:29.440 --> 00:41:31.340
you can scan QR codes and you'll get

00:41:31.460 --> 00:41:33.121
access to it.

00:41:33.222 --> 00:41:35.882
And it'll happen in that space.

00:41:36.342 --> 00:41:38.063
You can create a members-only section of

00:41:38.083 --> 00:41:40.724
your website and keep it behind that.

00:41:40.744 --> 00:41:42.123
I don't know.

00:41:43.952 --> 00:41:44.635
We may do that.

00:41:45.978 --> 00:41:46.922
That's a good idea.

00:41:46.942 --> 00:41:48.365
That would save you more money later in

00:41:48.385 --> 00:41:48.847
the future.

00:41:49.710 --> 00:41:50.731
See, I was thinking, though,

00:41:50.931 --> 00:41:52.152
it may be more fun.

00:41:52.693 --> 00:41:54.494
I got the idea watching Nipsey,

00:41:54.875 --> 00:41:55.554
rest in peace,

00:41:55.715 --> 00:41:58.518
where you scan the tag and this whole

00:41:58.538 --> 00:41:59.398
thing pops up.

00:41:59.418 --> 00:41:59.699
I was like,

00:41:59.759 --> 00:42:01.059
what if we do that with books?

00:42:01.139 --> 00:42:02.541
I know some guys are doing it.

00:42:04.143 --> 00:42:05.724
So you can still do the QR code

00:42:05.784 --> 00:42:07.666
and it would take you straight to the

00:42:07.686 --> 00:42:09.588
behind the scenes of the website where you

00:42:09.668 --> 00:42:11.188
don't have to log into it.

00:42:11.708 --> 00:42:12.789
Or you can also do it as the

00:42:12.849 --> 00:42:13.751
login as well.

00:42:14.231 --> 00:42:14.811
Oh, OK.

00:42:14.831 --> 00:42:15.132
Members.

00:42:15.253 --> 00:42:15.313
OK.

00:42:15.733 --> 00:42:16.474
Yeah, we may do that.

00:42:16.554 --> 00:42:16.713
Yeah.

00:42:17.543 --> 00:42:18.103
I may do that.

00:42:18.163 --> 00:42:19.063
Yeah, but I want to,

00:42:19.163 --> 00:42:19.784
I want to still,

00:42:19.824 --> 00:42:20.864
and I still want to be able to

00:42:22.364 --> 00:42:23.744
quote unquote give something away.

00:42:24.003 --> 00:42:24.644
You know what I mean?

00:42:24.664 --> 00:42:27.585
Because sometimes people not sold and

00:42:27.605 --> 00:42:28.766
sometimes they got to see it.

00:42:28.806 --> 00:42:30.465
So I'll do like four page,

00:42:30.726 --> 00:42:33.467
like four page little jabs here and there

00:42:33.507 --> 00:42:34.507
to keep folks engaged.

00:42:34.527 --> 00:42:35.847
That's, that's the idea.

00:42:36.007 --> 00:42:37.467
And it's already written and ready to go.

00:42:37.507 --> 00:42:39.288
We just need to get the ball rolling.

00:42:41.235 --> 00:42:41.936
I like it, man.

00:42:42.195 --> 00:42:43.617
I love everything you got going on.

00:42:44.097 --> 00:42:45.157
You have it together.

00:42:45.918 --> 00:42:47.418
You probably got a whole bunch of

00:42:47.697 --> 00:42:49.179
notebooks stacked up at the house.

00:42:49.278 --> 00:42:51.460
It's ridiculous.

00:42:51.860 --> 00:42:54.782
Thank God for a digital medium because I

00:42:54.802 --> 00:42:56.402
would probably be buried in paper.

00:42:56.702 --> 00:42:59.063
I would probably be buried under piles of

00:42:59.123 --> 00:42:59.463
paper.

00:42:59.864 --> 00:43:02.025
I'm a notebook guy.

00:43:02.244 --> 00:43:03.686
I keep mine in notebooks and then I

00:43:03.706 --> 00:43:06.146
transfer electronically later because I

00:43:06.286 --> 00:43:07.867
could be at work and the idea hits

00:43:07.907 --> 00:43:09.369
me and I keep my email open at

00:43:09.409 --> 00:43:09.648
work.

00:43:10.068 --> 00:43:11.309
and see that's what i do i keep

00:43:11.329 --> 00:43:13.713
my emails open here so i got one

00:43:14.532 --> 00:43:16.094
as i get ideas i just jot them

00:43:16.114 --> 00:43:17.275
down on that email at the end of

00:43:17.315 --> 00:43:18.717
the day i just shoot that email to

00:43:18.737 --> 00:43:20.960
myself as well and then i copy and

00:43:20.980 --> 00:43:24.182
paste it over into my my notes and

00:43:24.222 --> 00:43:26.125
then you know sometimes i'm in the car

00:43:26.184 --> 00:43:28.567
and i did his and i just write

00:43:28.586 --> 00:43:30.409
it down and that's how i got

00:43:30.713 --> 00:43:32.835
Text messages full of side stories and

00:43:32.994 --> 00:43:33.474
ideas.

00:43:33.494 --> 00:43:35.675
I'll send some to somebody just in case

00:43:35.735 --> 00:43:36.295
I forget.

00:43:37.076 --> 00:43:38.275
Random people will be like,

00:43:38.295 --> 00:43:38.996
why you send me this?

00:43:39.016 --> 00:43:40.476
I'm like, when I was texting,

00:43:40.496 --> 00:43:41.797
your name was the first one that popped

00:43:41.876 --> 00:43:42.036
up.

00:43:42.376 --> 00:43:43.356
So you get the story.

00:43:43.396 --> 00:43:45.637
You just hold on to the synopsis and

00:43:45.677 --> 00:43:46.978
just send it back to me.

00:43:47.958 --> 00:43:48.159
Yeah,

00:43:48.239 --> 00:43:50.798
I have friends with story synopsis and

00:43:50.818 --> 00:43:52.440
they don't know nothing about comics.

00:43:53.059 --> 00:43:54.760
But when I was texting,

00:43:54.940 --> 00:43:57.221
his name was like five sentences of stuff.

00:43:57.483 --> 00:43:59.784
yeah it's like don't erase and i just

00:44:00.003 --> 00:44:01.483
sent it to him just so i can

00:44:01.503 --> 00:44:05.284
have somewhere to park it dude i like

00:44:05.304 --> 00:44:07.525
that man so where do you see yourself

00:44:07.565 --> 00:44:09.306
in dark city comments in three to five

00:44:09.346 --> 00:44:14.027
years in the perfect world um i want

00:44:14.047 --> 00:44:18.048
to create an all-inclusive experience for

00:44:19.255 --> 00:44:20.916
Readers, I want to do fashion,

00:44:21.315 --> 00:44:22.096
pop culture.

00:44:22.135 --> 00:44:23.076
I want to do movies.

00:44:23.416 --> 00:44:24.577
I want to do animation.

00:44:24.637 --> 00:44:25.717
I want to do comics.

00:44:26.197 --> 00:44:28.617
I want to be able, the writing,

00:44:28.657 --> 00:44:30.659
I have the writing capabilities to do

00:44:30.699 --> 00:44:31.219
these things.

00:44:31.418 --> 00:44:34.420
And I have the vision to do these

00:44:34.440 --> 00:44:34.740
things.

00:44:34.800 --> 00:44:36.561
It's about finding the right team and

00:44:36.780 --> 00:44:37.942
that's happening right now.

00:44:38.461 --> 00:44:40.842
But I can do it.

00:44:41.242 --> 00:44:43.364
I want to create a mini network for

00:44:43.403 --> 00:44:43.903
creators.

00:44:45.380 --> 00:44:47.001
where you can just come in and it's

00:44:47.021 --> 00:44:47.722
an experience.

00:44:48.443 --> 00:44:49.342
You come in for comics.

00:44:49.423 --> 00:44:51.865
Oh, wow, I didn't know they did shorts.

00:44:51.905 --> 00:44:52.646
You look at a short.

00:44:52.666 --> 00:44:53.786
Oh, my goodness, this is nice.

00:44:53.887 --> 00:44:54.628
What is he wearing?

00:44:55.228 --> 00:44:55.789
It's apparel.

00:44:56.409 --> 00:44:56.509
Oh,

00:44:56.588 --> 00:44:57.889
there's a music that's going to the

00:44:57.929 --> 00:44:58.431
soundtrack.

00:44:58.490 --> 00:45:03.074
I want to do a whole thing without

00:45:03.114 --> 00:45:04.315
making it too heavy.

00:45:06.077 --> 00:45:08.318
Just a seamless transition.

00:45:08.378 --> 00:45:09.420
If you're going to do apparel,

00:45:10.079 --> 00:45:11.842
the perfect way to advertise apparel is

00:45:12.798 --> 00:45:14.179
I put it on the characters in the

00:45:14.219 --> 00:45:14.518
book.

00:45:17.239 --> 00:45:17.420
That's it.

00:45:17.440 --> 00:45:18.559
That was the first thing I'm like,

00:45:19.340 --> 00:45:20.400
if he's going to rock apparel,

00:45:20.541 --> 00:45:22.141
he's got to put apparel on the comic

00:45:22.181 --> 00:45:22.740
characters.

00:45:24.382 --> 00:45:26.402
You'll see some of them with the logos

00:45:26.422 --> 00:45:28.222
and the polos and the hats and all

00:45:28.242 --> 00:45:28.922
of that.

00:45:28.943 --> 00:45:30.643
Those are my favorite kind of Easter eggs.

00:45:30.722 --> 00:45:32.742
I'm not even going to lie.

00:45:33.143 --> 00:45:34.884
My artist, a friend of mine,

00:45:35.708 --> 00:45:36.989
My Chuck Taylor,

00:45:37.028 --> 00:45:38.771
he's he's going to actually he's going to

00:45:38.831 --> 00:45:41.574
do this secret sketch cover if we do

00:45:41.634 --> 00:45:41.753
it.

00:45:42.074 --> 00:45:43.215
And I think we're going to do it.

00:45:43.735 --> 00:45:44.655
He's phenomenal.

00:45:44.876 --> 00:45:45.737
What he used to do.

00:45:46.657 --> 00:45:47.778
He did the first run with me.

00:45:48.360 --> 00:45:50.262
He would always draw us in the book

00:45:50.342 --> 00:45:51.302
randomly somewhere.

00:45:52.143 --> 00:45:53.465
If you wouldn't tell me until it was

00:45:53.505 --> 00:45:53.804
done.

00:45:53.824 --> 00:45:55.407
So I'm watching the book and I'll see

00:45:55.447 --> 00:45:56.887
him like, Chuck, what you doing?

00:45:56.947 --> 00:45:58.088
And I flip and I'm like,

00:45:58.128 --> 00:45:58.869
what am I doing?

00:45:59.170 --> 00:45:59.670
You know what I mean?

00:45:59.751 --> 00:46:00.552
So I always thought.

00:46:01.112 --> 00:46:01.771
Thought it was cool,

00:46:01.813 --> 00:46:04.673
but we had on the apparel.

00:46:04.733 --> 00:46:06.315
That's my favorite type of Easter,

00:46:06.375 --> 00:46:08.416
as in everybody that comes on.

00:46:09.938 --> 00:46:11.179
Most of the people who've ever been on

00:46:11.199 --> 00:46:12.438
this podcast are like me.

00:46:12.780 --> 00:46:14.320
When I'm reading a comic book,

00:46:15.601 --> 00:46:16.882
I can spend an hour,

00:46:17.422 --> 00:46:19.983
two hours reading one comic book because

00:46:20.063 --> 00:46:21.144
I'm not just reading it.

00:46:21.664 --> 00:46:22.485
I'm studying it.

00:46:22.525 --> 00:46:23.405
I'm studying the letter,

00:46:23.467 --> 00:46:26.547
and I'm looking for those little Easter

00:46:26.688 --> 00:46:26.969
eggs

00:46:28.123 --> 00:46:28.682
In the book.

00:46:29.083 --> 00:46:29.844
Right.

00:46:29.864 --> 00:46:31.864
We need Easter eggs in it whatsoever,

00:46:32.405 --> 00:46:34.126
but I'm still going to look for it.

00:46:34.985 --> 00:46:35.166
Yeah.

00:46:35.246 --> 00:46:37.407
And so many things turn into Easter eggs

00:46:37.427 --> 00:46:38.327
down the line.

00:46:38.367 --> 00:46:40.068
And that's the cool thing about writing.

00:46:40.289 --> 00:46:41.849
That's the biggest thing right there is

00:46:41.869 --> 00:46:44.010
like this little obscene mention of

00:46:44.090 --> 00:46:47.211
something to happen on page two of issue

00:46:47.291 --> 00:46:49.952
three of some random comic book.

00:46:50.032 --> 00:46:50.893
Now you're on Easter.

00:46:51.643 --> 00:46:54.585
issue ten of the same comic book and

00:46:54.626 --> 00:46:56.065
that little thing that you've seen over

00:46:56.126 --> 00:46:58.586
here on you know issue two is now

00:46:58.628 --> 00:47:00.547
playing a big factor over here in issue

00:47:00.588 --> 00:47:02.969
ten absolutely and unless you paid

00:47:02.989 --> 00:47:08.092
attention you missed it because there's no

00:47:08.152 --> 00:47:09.893
there's no telling how many times i've had

00:47:09.932 --> 00:47:12.313
to go dig through a box pull out

00:47:12.333 --> 00:47:14.094
an old issue of a comic book and

00:47:14.494 --> 00:47:15.576
flip through it and be like i knew

00:47:15.596 --> 00:47:19.697
it i knew it that's it

00:47:20.358 --> 00:47:21.719
And sometimes it takes forever because

00:47:21.800 --> 00:47:24.260
that's just like that's backfill right

00:47:24.280 --> 00:47:24.561
there.

00:47:25.141 --> 00:47:26.561
I got a closet down the hall that's

00:47:26.581 --> 00:47:29.342
like short box after short box.

00:47:30.543 --> 00:47:31.503
Yeah, I miss all of that.

00:47:31.682 --> 00:47:34.083
I had I'm from Maryland.

00:47:34.184 --> 00:47:37.146
And so my attic looks like a comic

00:47:37.186 --> 00:47:39.927
book store.

00:47:40.007 --> 00:47:41.726
I can start one right now with so

00:47:41.746 --> 00:47:42.708
much stuff I have.

00:47:43.396 --> 00:47:45.177
And then, you know, I got, like,

00:47:45.197 --> 00:47:48.119
back there, that's, like, I do a small,

00:47:48.159 --> 00:47:48.420
like,

00:47:48.579 --> 00:47:50.181
quick series called What's in the Box,

00:47:50.221 --> 00:47:50.541
Man?

00:47:51.481 --> 00:47:52.802
And I still haven't got to record it.

00:47:53.744 --> 00:47:54.905
So the pile gets bigger.

00:47:54.945 --> 00:47:57.306
The big box is, like, storage bins for,

00:47:57.326 --> 00:47:58.967
because I need to clean out that closet

00:47:58.987 --> 00:47:59.467
back there.

00:48:00.047 --> 00:48:00.909
Because it's a wreck.

00:48:00.949 --> 00:48:04.170
Hey, man, listen.

00:48:04.251 --> 00:48:06.393
It's the mind of a creator, dude.

00:48:06.572 --> 00:48:08.554
Sometimes chaos.

00:48:08.594 --> 00:48:09.876
Yeah, yeah.

00:48:09.896 --> 00:48:12.217
People don't understand it.

00:48:12.257 --> 00:48:12.797
You know, like, you got to

00:48:13.856 --> 00:48:15.918
Sometimes I feel like I'm just here.

00:48:15.978 --> 00:48:17.038
I'm just along for the ride.

00:48:17.097 --> 00:48:18.677
My brain is doing what it's doing.

00:48:19.097 --> 00:48:20.599
And I'm just here to keep it alive.

00:48:20.958 --> 00:48:23.458
Because I got piles of things to get

00:48:23.498 --> 00:48:25.840
to and stuff I'm excited about.

00:48:26.280 --> 00:48:27.840
And I just can't wait to get to

00:48:27.860 --> 00:48:28.121
it.

00:48:28.161 --> 00:48:32.702
So my workspace, there's a pile of, oh,

00:48:32.722 --> 00:48:33.382
they should see this.

00:48:33.521 --> 00:48:34.882
Oh, we can't wait to get to it.

00:48:34.942 --> 00:48:35.641
I definitely understand.

00:48:35.661 --> 00:48:36.963
And then I got...

00:48:39.400 --> 00:48:41.719
You know, this week's new comic book day.

00:48:41.820 --> 00:48:44.081
I got last week's and the week's prior

00:48:44.121 --> 00:48:45.201
new comic book over day.

00:48:45.541 --> 00:48:46.960
New comic book day over there that I

00:48:47.001 --> 00:48:49.222
need to still scan in,

00:48:49.762 --> 00:48:51.902
get it added to my collection,

00:48:52.262 --> 00:48:53.702
get it boxed and put away.

00:48:54.842 --> 00:48:55.643
Yeah, dude.

00:48:55.682 --> 00:49:00.724
But this right here has been like the

00:49:00.784 --> 00:49:02.443
busiest I've ever been when it comes to

00:49:02.483 --> 00:49:03.244
the podcast.

00:49:03.284 --> 00:49:05.925
So I'm thankful for that.

00:49:07.396 --> 00:49:07.675
And I'm like,

00:49:07.735 --> 00:49:09.217
if stuff has to fall to the wayside

00:49:09.257 --> 00:49:11.358
so I can continue to put spotlights on

00:49:11.418 --> 00:49:13.782
Lowe and Ray, who was just on,

00:49:13.862 --> 00:49:15.663
and Ray McKay, who was just on,

00:49:15.704 --> 00:49:19.507
then I will put it off because that's

00:49:19.547 --> 00:49:20.447
what I made this for,

00:49:20.527 --> 00:49:21.789
and that's why you're here,

00:49:21.809 --> 00:49:23.150
and this is why you're getting a spotlight

00:49:23.190 --> 00:49:23.971
on you today.

00:49:24.572 --> 00:49:26.574
Yeah, appreciate it, man.

00:49:26.594 --> 00:49:28.496
I appreciate it because...

00:49:29.726 --> 00:49:31.449
it's a lot going on and it's cool

00:49:31.469 --> 00:49:33.831
to be able to talk about the process

00:49:33.851 --> 00:49:35.271
and like what you're doing and to

00:49:35.331 --> 00:49:37.873
reintroduce the university people and new

00:49:37.914 --> 00:49:38.155
people.

00:49:38.195 --> 00:49:40.215
Like we've been in comics probably the

00:49:40.235 --> 00:49:42.438
same time and we've never even crossed

00:49:42.478 --> 00:49:43.418
paths until now.

00:49:44.320 --> 00:49:45.061
Yeah.

00:49:45.121 --> 00:49:48.364
And it's so cool because like before I

00:49:48.384 --> 00:49:50.485
was having a hard time getting some of

00:49:50.505 --> 00:49:52.927
the Facebook groups to let me post and

00:49:53.751 --> 00:49:54.913
Like they just wouldn't post me.

00:49:55.672 --> 00:49:56.052
Right.

00:49:56.112 --> 00:49:56.554
I don't know.

00:49:57.114 --> 00:49:59.554
But then finally, you know,

00:49:59.614 --> 00:50:01.056
it started happening and it started

00:50:01.096 --> 00:50:01.536
happening.

00:50:02.056 --> 00:50:02.577
And then I,

00:50:03.677 --> 00:50:04.958
I knew I had like the first few

00:50:04.998 --> 00:50:07.880
days of this month, like filled in.

00:50:07.920 --> 00:50:10.021
I had you, I had Ray, Ray net.

00:50:10.840 --> 00:50:12.121
And then I had somebody else.

00:50:12.181 --> 00:50:13.123
I can't remember off the top of my

00:50:13.143 --> 00:50:15.423
head because that's how busy this month is

00:50:15.443 --> 00:50:15.804
going to be.

00:50:15.824 --> 00:50:17.664
When I start forgetting who I just had

00:50:17.804 --> 00:50:18.865
on like two days ago.

00:50:19.885 --> 00:50:20.507
And, um,

00:50:21.737 --> 00:50:23.318
So I made a post just like, hey,

00:50:23.659 --> 00:50:27.061
you know, we're scheduling live right now.

00:50:27.181 --> 00:50:27.701
Hit me up.

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Here's my email and we'll ride it from

00:50:30.902 --> 00:50:31.463
there, you know.

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And then it was like, boom, then boom.

00:50:35.985 --> 00:50:37.045
And it's like eleven thirty,

00:50:37.085 --> 00:50:39.126
twelve o'clock at night and I'm scheduling

00:50:39.186 --> 00:50:40.268
like people are hitting me up.

00:50:40.807 --> 00:50:43.690
That's how I'm going to bed.

00:50:43.789 --> 00:50:44.869
I can't look at this no more.

00:50:45.431 --> 00:50:46.150
So I go to bed,

00:50:46.851 --> 00:50:48.873
wake up and there's like ten more emails.

00:50:48.992 --> 00:50:49.313
I'm like.

00:50:50.153 --> 00:50:50.773
Okay.

00:50:50.974 --> 00:50:51.634
That's a blessing.

00:50:51.693 --> 00:50:53.355
Immediately the next day, I'm like, hey,

00:50:53.795 --> 00:50:54.675
I got to close it.

00:50:54.934 --> 00:50:56.936
However, if you still, you know,

00:50:57.076 --> 00:50:58.436
if you could do March, hit me up.

00:50:58.456 --> 00:50:59.277
We'll do March.

00:50:59.896 --> 00:51:01.856
And now I'm like, shit, March is full.

00:51:01.916 --> 00:51:02.978
I'm about to go to April.

00:51:03.217 --> 00:51:03.938
Hey, listen,

00:51:03.978 --> 00:51:06.179
being booked and busy is a blessing.

00:51:06.579 --> 00:51:07.438
I promise you that.

00:51:07.898 --> 00:51:08.659
Oh, dude.

00:51:08.679 --> 00:51:09.480
Yeah, the opportunity.

00:51:10.820 --> 00:51:12.981
exactly because i get to meet i get

00:51:13.101 --> 00:51:14.782
i get to meet lo tonight i got

00:51:14.802 --> 00:51:17.422
to meet ray rainett the other day and

00:51:17.643 --> 00:51:19.543
you know many many more on the menu

00:51:19.583 --> 00:51:21.625
for this month that i've never met these

00:51:21.664 --> 00:51:22.505
people well

00:51:23.746 --> 00:51:25.367
There's a couple that are repeat offenders

00:51:25.407 --> 00:51:26.568
going to be on here this month.

00:51:26.608 --> 00:51:28.829
But those are people I have friendships

00:51:28.889 --> 00:51:29.731
with now, you know?

00:51:30.170 --> 00:51:30.992
Yeah.

00:51:31.032 --> 00:51:32.333
Like when you get ready to run it

00:51:32.353 --> 00:51:33.673
back, dude, hit me up.

00:51:33.974 --> 00:51:35.375
We will run this back all day.

00:51:35.414 --> 00:51:36.735
Oh, I appreciate it.

00:51:36.755 --> 00:51:37.135
Definitely.

00:51:37.177 --> 00:51:38.056
Not from your car, though.

00:51:38.538 --> 00:51:39.418
Hey, man, listen,

00:51:42.139 --> 00:51:44.402
I was trying to make sure I keep

00:51:44.442 --> 00:51:44.842
time.

00:51:44.902 --> 00:51:46.023
I like being on time.

00:51:46.184 --> 00:51:47.605
And then I wanted to just be like,

00:51:47.644 --> 00:51:49.126
hey, listen, this is what's going on.

00:51:50.679 --> 00:51:52.802
Give me a minute.

00:51:52.842 --> 00:51:53.543
You're good, dude.

00:51:55.264 --> 00:51:56.246
I was just one of those where I

00:51:56.266 --> 00:51:56.567
hit you up.

00:51:56.586 --> 00:51:58.148
I was like, hey,

00:51:58.168 --> 00:51:59.550
you didn't forget about us, did you?

00:51:59.570 --> 00:52:00.992
Because you were really excited.

00:52:01.152 --> 00:52:01.972
You didn't forget.

00:52:02.012 --> 00:52:03.215
There's no way you forgot.

00:52:03.775 --> 00:52:04.635
You know what's funny?

00:52:04.797 --> 00:52:07.880
I got this one confused.

00:52:08.280 --> 00:52:09.041
I missed a

00:52:10.759 --> 00:52:12.721
pod yesterday blew my mind and it broke

00:52:12.740 --> 00:52:14.684
my heart because I wanted to do it.

00:52:14.704 --> 00:52:16.365
I was like, I thought you were Friday.

00:52:16.405 --> 00:52:18.487
And I'm like, no, this is Friday.

00:52:19.188 --> 00:52:20.530
Now I need a scheduler.

00:52:20.630 --> 00:52:22.932
It's funny how getting...

00:52:22.972 --> 00:52:25.016
That's the best thing you will ever do

00:52:25.056 --> 00:52:25.795
for yourself.

00:52:26.117 --> 00:52:26.978
Get a whiteboard,

00:52:27.018 --> 00:52:29.199
put it on the wall next to you.

00:52:30.121 --> 00:52:32.842
And then as you fill up your electronic,

00:52:33.003 --> 00:52:34.364
you know, the one in your email one,

00:52:34.965 --> 00:52:36.746
I immediately walk over with my pen.

00:52:37.186 --> 00:52:38.387
I write it on the board.

00:52:38.827 --> 00:52:39.889
That way it's right there.

00:52:40.369 --> 00:52:42.990
And I got a whiteboard sitting under my

00:52:43.030 --> 00:52:43.331
bar.

00:52:43.351 --> 00:52:44.711
I'm going to hang it up tonight.

00:52:46.152 --> 00:52:46.893
That is the big,

00:52:46.954 --> 00:52:48.855
especially when you're about to launch it,

00:52:48.954 --> 00:52:51.396
you got to get that organized.

00:52:51.516 --> 00:52:51.717
Yeah,

00:52:51.737 --> 00:52:53.699
but I definitely need something more

00:52:53.739 --> 00:52:55.679
tangible that I'm really actually

00:52:55.699 --> 00:52:56.041
touching.

00:52:56.061 --> 00:52:56.181
Yeah.

00:52:57.945 --> 00:53:01.568
The whiteboard in the calendar email,

00:53:02.148 --> 00:53:04.128
like the calendar on your email,

00:53:05.748 --> 00:53:08.309
I can literally make an event from the

00:53:08.449 --> 00:53:10.311
email, add it to the calendar,

00:53:10.331 --> 00:53:12.452
and then go to the whiteboard and write

00:53:12.492 --> 00:53:13.192
it in over there.

00:53:14.480 --> 00:53:16.041
And it, cause I'm getting it.

00:53:16.061 --> 00:53:17.460
Cause as I'm walking in the room,

00:53:17.780 --> 00:53:18.882
it's right there in my face.

00:53:20.481 --> 00:53:22.242
It's right in front of my face and

00:53:22.262 --> 00:53:24.003
my phone will send me the notification.

00:53:24.043 --> 00:53:25.364
Like, Hey, you have this coming up.

00:53:25.684 --> 00:53:27.144
Yeah.

00:53:27.164 --> 00:53:27.264
Yeah.

00:53:27.304 --> 00:53:28.045
The hard part is,

00:53:28.085 --> 00:53:29.545
is when you get a bunch at one

00:53:29.565 --> 00:53:31.067
time and you've got to get them,

00:53:31.847 --> 00:53:33.507
you got to differentiate from everybody

00:53:33.527 --> 00:53:34.307
and make sure you're,

00:53:34.347 --> 00:53:35.528
you're sending the right person,

00:53:35.568 --> 00:53:36.909
the right stuff and you're communicating

00:53:36.929 --> 00:53:38.309
the right things to the right people.

00:53:39.030 --> 00:53:41.791
And I'm like, I need an assistant.

00:53:42.170 --> 00:53:43.411
I need money.

00:53:43.431 --> 00:53:43.572
Yeah.

00:53:44.920 --> 00:53:46.742
it's coming though man you know you get

00:53:46.782 --> 00:53:48.963
busy before you get the bodies so so

00:53:48.983 --> 00:53:52.106
you're busy and then oh yeah yeah the

00:53:52.126 --> 00:53:54.467
bodies will show up man i'm hoping so

00:53:54.487 --> 00:53:56.748
man because this has been like the the

00:53:56.768 --> 00:53:59.570
funnest i've had like twenty twenty five

00:53:59.590 --> 00:54:01.431
was good everything started picking up and

00:54:01.452 --> 00:54:04.534
taking off and then i've not had like

00:54:04.693 --> 00:54:08.036
we're in february january was pretty busy

00:54:08.076 --> 00:54:09.157
but it's always a little slow in the

00:54:09.177 --> 00:54:11.478
beginning because people are coming out of

00:54:11.498 --> 00:54:12.239
the holidays

00:54:14.175 --> 00:54:16.215
But now it's like, everybody's like, boom,

00:54:16.237 --> 00:54:16.996
boom, let's go.

00:54:17.056 --> 00:54:17.556
And I'm like,

00:54:18.677 --> 00:54:19.659
I got you what you want.

00:54:19.679 --> 00:54:21.559
Like, you need a spotlight.

00:54:23.262 --> 00:54:26.583
The chairman's got your spotlight.

00:54:27.103 --> 00:54:27.625
That's what's up.

00:54:27.644 --> 00:54:27.804
Yeah, man.

00:54:27.885 --> 00:54:28.545
I appreciate him.

00:54:28.625 --> 00:54:30.286
I've been enjoying this for,

00:54:30.306 --> 00:54:31.507
I appreciate you having me on.

00:54:32.494 --> 00:54:34.496
Hey, man, and like I said,

00:54:34.516 --> 00:54:35.755
when you're ready to do it again,

00:54:36.356 --> 00:54:37.016
we'll do it again.

00:54:37.836 --> 00:54:40.217
This is literally what this was made for,

00:54:40.938 --> 00:54:42.157
is spotlighting creators.

00:54:42.737 --> 00:54:44.398
And while we're spotlighting you tonight,

00:54:44.599 --> 00:54:46.498
why don't you go ahead and tell everybody

00:54:47.019 --> 00:54:48.320
where they can find Lowe,

00:54:48.780 --> 00:54:51.041
Dark City Comics, and Epic.

00:54:51.740 --> 00:54:56.523
So you can find darkcityhq.com.

00:54:56.543 --> 00:54:57.684
So it's Dark City Headquarters.

00:54:57.724 --> 00:55:00.206
It's the headquarters of everything Dark

00:55:00.226 --> 00:55:00.806
City Comics.

00:55:00.827 --> 00:55:02.387
You'll see heroes.

00:55:02.668 --> 00:55:03.527
You'll see apparel.

00:55:04.628 --> 00:55:06.969
You'll see some live action stills on some

00:55:07.010 --> 00:55:07.931
things we're working on.

00:55:08.251 --> 00:55:10.833
And you'll also see the link to get

00:55:11.632 --> 00:55:13.514
to the relaunch of Epic Earth's Protector

00:55:13.534 --> 00:55:15.775
in Crisis, issue one, the Alpha String.

00:55:16.016 --> 00:55:17.295
All social media handles,

00:55:17.777 --> 00:55:19.398
darkcitycomicsx.com.

00:55:20.018 --> 00:55:22.059
dark city comics facebook forward slash

00:55:22.079 --> 00:55:25.422
dark city comics ig and uh tiktok and

00:55:25.461 --> 00:55:28.304
even snap and fame fan base all dark

00:55:28.324 --> 00:55:31.346
city comics were there so if you need

00:55:31.365 --> 00:55:34.827
to help spelling d-a-r-k-c-i-t-y

00:55:35.108 --> 00:55:38.951
c-o-m-i-c-s and you can find me anywhere

00:55:38.971 --> 00:55:40.291
you look in dark city comics and

00:55:40.331 --> 00:55:43.994
multimedia and as always they will be

00:55:44.074 --> 00:55:46.275
linked down below they're actually linked

00:55:46.295 --> 00:55:47.795
down below right now if you click on

00:55:47.856 --> 00:55:48.476
the uh

00:55:49.615 --> 00:55:51.257
The post on Facebook,

00:55:51.277 --> 00:55:52.117
you'll find them there.

00:55:52.317 --> 00:55:55.438
And when this goes live on YouTube and

00:55:55.559 --> 00:55:58.699
also on any podcast platform,

00:55:58.739 --> 00:55:59.800
if you hit the description,

00:56:00.400 --> 00:56:02.322
all those links to all his social medias

00:56:02.362 --> 00:56:03.802
are going to be right there for you.

00:56:05.003 --> 00:56:07.284
But make sure you like, follow,

00:56:07.925 --> 00:56:09.686
and share because this is how indie

00:56:09.706 --> 00:56:12.166
creators get discovered and how these

00:56:12.186 --> 00:56:15.329
stories reach the people who need them

00:56:15.409 --> 00:56:15.728
most.

00:56:16.842 --> 00:56:18.364
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00:56:18.405 --> 00:56:18.804
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00:56:21.288 --> 00:56:22.670
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00:56:23.090 --> 00:56:24.351
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00:56:24.431 --> 00:56:26.474
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00:56:26.894 --> 00:56:29.838
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00:56:30.739 --> 00:56:33.322
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