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<v Speaker 1>So, Jeff, remember yesterday how I said the Gladiator quote

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<v Speaker 1>about Roman citizenship.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I might have gett a little ahead of myself.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, this is a very exciting story and it's all

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<v Speaker 3>running together.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I thought we were going to actually include that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well today the only thing that the really crowd knows

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<v Speaker 1>is that he's a Jewish person, right, that's right, And

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<v Speaker 1>now today he's going to actually launch into the Roman

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<v Speaker 1>citizenship part of.

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<v Speaker 3>His Yeah, but as soon as he brings that up,

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<v Speaker 3>he turns into a hot potato. Nobody wants to touch

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<v Speaker 3>you after that point. So that's what we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>He's Chris and I'm Jeff, and we're the Bible guys.

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<v Speaker 1>So, mister Jeff, we have given to us. They're calling

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<v Speaker 1>it this or.

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<v Speaker 3>That, this or that.

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<v Speaker 2>What would you rather pick?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so here's the first question, fun and then we

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<v Speaker 1>just needed to talk about it, you know, whether we

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<v Speaker 1>have commonality or.

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't read any of these I have not ever

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<v Speaker 3>seen them, so either.

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<v Speaker 1>The first one said, when visiting a new place, would

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<v Speaker 1>you rather have a tour guide or be your own

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<v Speaker 1>tour guide and then find things slash places yourself.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd rather be my own tour guide. Yeah, I think.

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<v Speaker 1>It depends on where you are. I think in Israel,

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<v Speaker 1>like we're going to Israel in a couple of months,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that it's absolutely necessary to have your own

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<v Speaker 1>tour guide. I saw the value of it last time when.

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<v Speaker 2>I went in nine.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I would say other than that, I would

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<v Speaker 1>probably want to be my own tour guide.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. It depends on how much time you have. Like

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<v Speaker 3>I love to when I travel, I like always everywhere

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<v Speaker 3>we go by a lonely planet guide. So there's a

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<v Speaker 3>guide there, and it's time to eat at these restaurants,

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<v Speaker 3>check these places out, here's how much it costs for

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<v Speaker 3>that museum, whatever. But I would rather not have somebody

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<v Speaker 3>because the other side of it is those guides always

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<v Speaker 3>want to take you to their cousin's shop to go

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<v Speaker 3>buy souvenirs. Right, there's kind of this thing so frustrates me.

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<v Speaker 3>But I was just in Luxor, Egypt, about a month

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<v Speaker 3>and a half ago, and you know, there's the Valley

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<v Speaker 3>of the Kings where King Tut's tomb is, and there's

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<v Speaker 3>Luxor Temple and Karnak Temple all that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>But we only had one day, Right, we only had

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<v Speaker 3>one day. Well, at that point, there's so much to

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<v Speaker 3>cover that we decided let's hire a professional guide. And

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<v Speaker 3>he just gave us the height We said, hey, we

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<v Speaker 3>want to do these five things, just give us the highlights.

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<v Speaker 3>And it was perfect because he had a very precise

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<v Speaker 3>knowledge of how far away things were and how much

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<v Speaker 3>time we could spend in each place. And he did

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<v Speaker 3>a great job. That was fantastic. So on that day

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<v Speaker 3>when we were really tight, using a guide was good.

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<v Speaker 2>That's cool.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but normally I'd rather do it myself.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Number two, if you had a free cruise, would you

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<v Speaker 1>rather go to Alaska or the Caribbean?

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<v Speaker 3>Alaska?

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<v Speaker 2>Me too?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well only because I've been to the Caribbean several times.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I haven't, and and it's a bucket list for

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<v Speaker 1>me to see the northern lights.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah I have. I haven't. I haven't been to Alaska.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I would.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I haven't been to Caribbean either. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So number three, well, hey, hey I've been somewhere

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<v Speaker 2>you haven't.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I haven't.

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<v Speaker 2>No. I love that. Number three.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you rather live on the East coast or live

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<v Speaker 1>on the West coast?

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<v Speaker 3>Two?

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<v Speaker 2>Right, right?

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<v Speaker 1>So all of our listeners in California and in Jersey

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<v Speaker 1>are like, oh, thanks, man, man, I would rather.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like asking all that, would you rather live in

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<v Speaker 3>Michigan or Indiana?

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<v Speaker 1>Right, it's true, you're right, okay, but you got to choose.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you question East Coast? I think so too, But

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<v Speaker 1>it's only because I feel like everybody who lives in

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<v Speaker 1>the West Coast.

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<v Speaker 2>It's in another way if I feel like they're on

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<v Speaker 2>a different planet. I really do. I feel like it's

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<v Speaker 2>like it's like I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been to California several times, but it seems so

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<v Speaker 1>far removed from the reality in which I love and live, right,

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<v Speaker 1>it just seems like, you know, I know it's only

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<v Speaker 1>a plane ride away, but still all right, how about.

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<v Speaker 2>This one number four? If you could time track?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh this is a good Would you rather be able

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<v Speaker 1>to experience the past or to experience and see the

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<v Speaker 1>future the past? Why you can get a sports almanac.

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<v Speaker 3>That you give it yourself? Yeah, yeah, exactly. Uh No,

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<v Speaker 3>I think, uh the future is an adventure to me,

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<v Speaker 3>But I've read so much about the past I'd like

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<v Speaker 3>to go see it. So I like the mystery of

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<v Speaker 3>what's happening tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, I think I think my answer is

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<v Speaker 1>also the past, but not because I'm fascinated with all

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<v Speaker 1>of my reading and information of the past. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's because I I would want to affect the future.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's really not the question.

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<v Speaker 3>Was It's not the question.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, okay, would you rather just experience experiencing them?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, then I'm.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, I'm changing my answer. Yeah, I'm going to go

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<v Speaker 1>to the future.

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<v Speaker 3>Go to the future, yeah, okay, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just just to know it's and then I can

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<v Speaker 1>come back to the president and be like invest in.

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<v Speaker 2>Crypto. Right, So there it is, So here we go.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think I think we can put that one

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<v Speaker 2>to Ben. I like that. I like the would you rather?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Those are fun? Those are fun? So those are

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<v Speaker 3>those are the four questions?

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<v Speaker 2>That's it. So, I mean, I could invent my own

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<v Speaker 2>if you want. You ready for this?

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<v Speaker 1>I was when I was a youth pastor. We actually

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<v Speaker 1>had a book put out by Doug Fields called.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you Rather?

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<v Speaker 1>And I only remember a few of them, but I

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<v Speaker 1>would ask my youth group, which is high school students

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<v Speaker 1>in middle school all the time these questions. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's also like you know, would you rather freeze to

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<v Speaker 1>death or burned to death?

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<v Speaker 2>Those kind of.

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<v Speaker 3>Questions we have to die, right right?

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<v Speaker 1>But my, but my, one that I always asked was

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<v Speaker 1>would you rather have your hand nibbled on by a cannibal?

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<v Speaker 1>Or would you rather eat a Hamberger in front of

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<v Speaker 1>a starving child?

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<v Speaker 3>That's terrible.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a terrible question.

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<v Speaker 3>Terrible.

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<v Speaker 2>That's probably why I remember them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, man, well both of those are bad choices. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>I think if nobody is watching I eat a hamburger.

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<v Speaker 2>Terrible, Jeff, terrible. I know. No matter no matter what

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<v Speaker 2>you choose, you lose, right Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So I mean if if you have to choose

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<v Speaker 3>between hurting somebody or hurting yourself, well then you choose

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<v Speaker 3>to let the cannibal nibble.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually I messed that question up, not that anybody cares,

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I mixed two of them up.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, no, it was supposed to be would you

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<v Speaker 1>rather eat a hamburger in front of a starving child?

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<v Speaker 2>Or kick a puppy?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, you asked me that one before.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, And then the hand on the cannibal?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh? One was would you rather get your hand nibble

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<v Speaker 1>a hot poker.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, nibbled, yes, an easy one. Yeah yeah, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>it's so weird.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't help what I read.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm glad the desert is the one who picks these

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<v Speaker 3>normal questions.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree. I agree. So we're nine chapter twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, and Paul has you know again, he's been

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<v Speaker 1>carried away from the mob by the Romans. He pleads

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<v Speaker 1>to the crowd, he gives them his story, slips in

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<v Speaker 1>the gospel, yeah, and identifies and builds common ground. And

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<v Speaker 1>then he's continuing.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, we've spent some time in some of

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<v Speaker 3>the letters Paul wrote, and they're pretty theological, right, So

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<v Speaker 3>we've had a lot of these daily devotions where it's

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<v Speaker 3>just theology. And then you know, we pivot. Now we're

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<v Speaker 3>in this narrative. There's this storyline going, and the stories

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<v Speaker 3>are for our example. So then what we're looking for

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<v Speaker 3>when you read a story in the Bible is not

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<v Speaker 3>what is the theology of that story. What you're looking

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<v Speaker 3>for is what is the example to me in this story?

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<v Speaker 3>And so we'll just pick up in verse twenty four

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<v Speaker 3>and read on through chapter twenty three, verse eleven, He

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<v Speaker 3>says the commander brought Paul inside and ordered him lash

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<v Speaker 3>when they tied Paul down to lash, and Paul said

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<v Speaker 3>to the officer, standing, there is for you to whip

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<v Speaker 3>a Roman citizen who hasn't even been tried. When the

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<v Speaker 3>officer heard this, he went to the commander and asked,

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<v Speaker 3>what are you doing? This man is a Roman citizen.

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<v Speaker 3>So the commander went over and asked, Paul, tell me,

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<v Speaker 3>are you a Roman citizen. Yes, I certainly am, Paul replied,

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<v Speaker 3>I am too. The commander muttered, and it cost me plenty.

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<v Speaker 3>Paul answered, but I am a citizen by birth. The

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<v Speaker 3>soldiers who were about to interrogate Paul quickly withdrew when

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<v Speaker 3>was frightened because he'd ordered him bound and whipped. The

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<v Speaker 3>Next day, the commander ordered the leading priests into session

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<v Speaker 3>with the Jewish High Council. He wanted to find out

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<v Speaker 3>what the trouble was all about, so he released Paul

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<v Speaker 3>to have him stand before them, gazing intently at the

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<v Speaker 3>High Council, Paul began, brothers, I've always lived before God

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<v Speaker 3>with a clear conscience. Instantly, ANNONI as the high priests,

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<v Speaker 3>commanded them those close to Paul to slap him in

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<v Speaker 3>the mouth. But Paul said to him, God will slap you,

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<v Speaker 3>you corrupt hypocrite. What kind of judge are you to

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<v Speaker 3>break the law yourself by ordering me struck like that?

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<v Speaker 3>Tho was standing. Paul said to him, do you dare

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<v Speaker 3>to insult God's High Priest? I'm sorry, brothers, I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>realize he was the high priest. Paul replied, for the

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<v Speaker 3>scriptures say you must not speak evil of any of

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<v Speaker 3>your rulers. Paul realized that some members of the High

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<v Speaker 3>Council were Sadducees and some were Pharisees, so he shouted, brothers,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a Pharisee, as were my ancestors, and I am

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<v Speaker 3>on trial because my hope is in the resurrection of

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<v Speaker 3>the dead. This divided the council, the Pharisees against the Sadducees,

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<v Speaker 3>Paul and said, be encouraged, Paul. Just as you have

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<v Speaker 3>preach the good news in Rome as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Right as if as if there wasn't enough ruckus going on.

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<v Speaker 1>so Paul could have easily said I'm a Roman citizen

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<v Speaker 2>So what is he doing.

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<v Speaker 2>And then and then then he's when he notices that

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<v Speaker 2>some are Pharisees and Sadducees. What does he do?

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<v Speaker 1>He says the perfect sentence to cause uproar and so

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<v Speaker 2>So Paul is throwing.

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<v Speaker 1>Grenades everywhere, which is great, and he calls Anonius a

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<v Speaker 3>And then I think there's a big lesson there for

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<v Speaker 3>At that point he backpedaled just a little bit, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>and then he backpedaled, Oh wait, I should have been

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<v Speaker 3>more respectful. And you know, sometimes we can we don't

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<v Speaker 3>respect the person, but we should always respect the office, right,

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<v Speaker 3>And that's that's what you guys talked about it in Romans.

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<v Speaker 3>and so hey, if that's the leader that's in charge,

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<v Speaker 3>then we should at least respect that office. And he

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<v Speaker 3>it was I think he did that with the with

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<v Speaker 3>the Pharisees and the Sadducees because he knew this wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>going to go anywhere. This is not the goal anyways, right,

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<v Speaker 3>He's trying to get to Rome. And so there's not

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<v Speaker 3>to be a month, two months. This is gonna be

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<v Speaker 3>probably gonna be a hung jury anyways. Because he knows

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<v Speaker 3>why he appeals and goes, hey, by the way, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>being convicted in the trial, and the whole process for

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<v Speaker 3>a Roman citizen was much more complicated than it would

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<v Speaker 3>this soldier says is Commanders goes, oh, yeah, I'm a

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<v Speaker 3>citizen too. I bought my citizenship. Paul goes, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>guy who was born it was this really intimidated this guy.

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<v Speaker 3>And so the whole thing's just the mess for everybody involved, right,

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<v Speaker 3>which really kind of lets you know, none of this

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<v Speaker 3>should have ever happened anyways, right, right, This is just

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<v Speaker 3>the This is just evil that's happening, and Paul's trying

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, Paul, I mean, what's Paul's crime. Preaching the

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<v Speaker 1>Gospel and inviting gentiles and Jews to receive the good news?

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<v Speaker 2>That's his crime.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>And so.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to point out also that I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>ask you a question, Jeff, put you on the spot.

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<v Speaker 1>Verse number eleven, it says that night the Lord capital

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<v Speaker 1>l appeared to Paul and said, be encouraged, Paul, just

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<v Speaker 1>as you've been a witness to me and jerusalemus preaching

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<v Speaker 1>good news in Rome as well.

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<v Speaker 2>What it says the Lord appeared to him.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the same question I have and acts chapter number

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it is, you know, eighteen or so or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>during the plagues of Egypt, where it says, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>people always say the Angel of Death came down and

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<v Speaker 1>went through and killed the firstborns and the land of

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<v Speaker 1>the post, but the scripture doesn't say that. The scripture

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<v Speaker 1>actually says the God said.

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<v Speaker 2>I will come down. I will come down and come through.

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<v Speaker 1>And so it says when it says the Lord appeared,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking, Okay, is this God the Father? Is this

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<v Speaker 1>the Lord as in Jesus has appeared before him again,

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<v Speaker 1>or or is it him sending an angel And he's

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<v Speaker 1>just saying the Lord appeared, But it's as if the

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think uh luke is pretty because remember this

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<v Speaker 3>isn't Paul telling the story. This is Luke telling the story.

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<v Speaker 3>Luke is pretty tight on when it's an angel, right,

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<v Speaker 3>an angel came and sat Peter free while he was

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<v Speaker 3>in the in the jail. He's really tight on that.

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<v Speaker 3>And then when it's not, then I think he would

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<v Speaker 3>have said it was an angel if it was an angel.

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<v Speaker 3>So here I think he's talking about Jesus, is what

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<v Speaker 3>I think I think Paul is said. I think Luke

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<v Speaker 3>is saying that Paul spent time with Jesus there and

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<v Speaker 3>that Jesus came and told Paul You're going to go

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<v Speaker 1>So if you think about that, that's pretty awesome, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because it doesn't normally we would just hear that and

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<v Speaker 1>be like, oh cool, he heard a word from the Lord.

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<v Speaker 2>But he didn't say that. It says he appeared to him.

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<v Speaker 1>And so just the idea that Paul would go through

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<v Speaker 1>all of that and then spend time face to face

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<v Speaker 1>with Jesus is pretty incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it changes the whole visual, doesn't it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, and by the way, Luke was a doctor

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<v Speaker 1>by profession, right, right, so he was very he was

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<v Speaker 1>precision oriented.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>You know when you say he was pretty tight. It's

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<v Speaker 1>because his whole life was that way.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, right, he was very detailed.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and one of the just as an aside, archaeologists

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<v Speaker 3>and historians would say Luke is one of the most

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<v Speaker 3>precise ancient historians that exist. Even even we're talking about

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<v Speaker 3>historians that aren't Christians, would say, there aren't very many,

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<v Speaker 3>if any Oh, this is two days in a row.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, very exciting. Wow, I think it's Dusty in here?

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<v Speaker 3>Is this a new segment?

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I'm just kidding, it's not Dustin there. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So anyways, he's a very precise historian, and that

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<v Speaker 3>kind of I think is one of the reasons why

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<v Speaker 3>it Also it refers to be encouraged Paul. Just as

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<v Speaker 3>you've been a witness to me here in Jerusalem, you

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<v Speaker 3>must preach the good news in Rome as well. But

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<v Speaker 3>he says, you've been a witness to me, right, So

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<v Speaker 3>he's saying, this is I think Jesus talking, because Paul

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<v Speaker 3>never was, you know, testified of an angel. He always

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<v Speaker 3>was testifying of what Jesus did in his life. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and this is a unique moment. We don't see this

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<v Speaker 3>happening in Paul's life all the time, right, right, Paul

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<v Speaker 3>had the engagement with Jesus on the road to Damascus.

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<v Speaker 3>He spent three years in the Arabian Peninsula being taught

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<v Speaker 3>by Jesus according to the Book of the Galatians, and then

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<v Speaker 3>this encounter here they seem to be the three with Jesus.

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<v Speaker 3>So it wasn't all the time, but this was. And

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<v Speaker 3>this is a pretty big deal because Jesus is basically saying,

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<v Speaker 3>you are going to Rome, right, and you know, all

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<v Speaker 3>those prophecies are going to come true. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, it's also the timing is hilarious

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<v Speaker 1>because after all of that, after having gone through this,

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, good job, do it again, right, which is great?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, now it's interesting. You know how we

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<v Speaker 3>always talked about how much we love the Life Affication Bible. Sure,

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes Life Affication Study Bible has, you know, just a

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<v Speaker 3>great insight into Hey, it connects this passage to that

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<v Speaker 3>passage when you read the study notes at the bottom.

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<v Speaker 3>But sometimes they'll give you some really great historical pieces

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<v Speaker 3>and verses two through five and chapter twenty three it

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<v Speaker 3>says Josephus. We already referenced Josephus before, Right, he was

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<v Speaker 3>the one who wrote about the Egyptian guy that led

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<v Speaker 3>four thousand assassins. Right. So Josephus, a respective first century historian,

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<v Speaker 3>described to Anonius this high priest as profane, greedy, and

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<v Speaker 3>hot tempered. Right, So that's what it tells us about

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<v Speaker 3>Anonius that this is a pretty bad guy. He wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>a good religious leader. And so in that context, now

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<v Speaker 3>this is a secular historian. This isn't some Christian guy

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<v Speaker 3>who goes, we don't like Anonis because he's vain and

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<v Speaker 3>hot tempered and greedy. This is a secular Roman historian saying,

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<v Speaker 3>this is a pretty bad guy. And you know, this

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<v Speaker 3>happens within all organized organizations in the world, whether you're

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<v Speaker 3>church workers or whatever. There's a bad seed almost everywhere. Right.

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<v Speaker 3>And yet Paul, as soon as he found out that

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<v Speaker 3>Anonius was the high priest, back to this other point,

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<v Speaker 3>he stepped back and said, I'm going to honor the

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<v Speaker 3>position even though this was a bad guy. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the guy ordered those who were standing next to

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<v Speaker 1>paula slapman his face. Yeah, so, so in other words,

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<v Speaker 1>what he's saying is is he's saying, I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to officially order the Roman commander to continue to whip

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<v Speaker 1>you because that would be illegal.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, you know?

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<v Speaker 2>Is not illegal? Hey, you that are standing there, what's

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<v Speaker 2>your name? Fred? Punch him?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>And so what does Paul say? He calls him a

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<v Speaker 1>in the face for slapping me in the face.

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<v Speaker 2>And he mentioned it was illegal.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, So Anonius's character is shown just by that

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<v Speaker 1>one command that he gave by doing something like that.

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<v Speaker 3>And then this moment where he realizes, oh, wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 3>I've got a room full of Sadducees and Pharisees. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to get them fighting and take their focus off

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<v Speaker 3>of me. This was, I believe, a supernatural insight that

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<v Speaker 3>Jesus gave, or that God the Holy Spirit gave to

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<v Speaker 3>Paul in that moment to take the focus off of Paul.

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<v Speaker 3>This trial is not going to go anywhere, and ultimately

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<v Speaker 3>the Romans are going to have to step back in

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<v Speaker 3>and rescue him because God's goal was not for it

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<v Speaker 3>all to be finished in Jerusalem. God's goal was to

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<v Speaker 3>get have Paul take the Gospel all the way to

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<v Speaker 3>the Roman emperor.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and keep in.

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<v Speaker 1>Mind as well for our listeners actually as who I'm

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<v Speaker 1>speaking to, keep in mind that Paul was a Pharisee himself,

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<v Speaker 1>so he knew everything there was to know here and

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<v Speaker 1>he thought, oh, I have the knowledge to get these

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<v Speaker 1>guys going. And it just as a reminder to us,

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<v Speaker 1>just like you mentioned before, So this is a narrative

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<v Speaker 1>that we need to look as an.

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<v Speaker 2>Example to us.

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<v Speaker 1>It's an example that tells us that God has perfectly

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<v Speaker 1>placed Paul for this job. He's perfectly qualified, he's perfectly gifted.

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<v Speaker 2>Paul.

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<v Speaker 1>God is using his you know, his knowledge, he's leveraging

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<v Speaker 1>his gifts, his background. In this case, you know, he

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<v Speaker 1>told his history, his story, which gained favor with the crowd.

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<v Speaker 1>So anyway, all that to say, it's amazing how God

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<v Speaker 1>can place you perfectly where you are.

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<v Speaker 2>To make the biggest difference.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe there are people who are you know, at

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<v Speaker 1>their workplace and their cubicle or at a desk or

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<v Speaker 1>in an office somewhere, or you know, just a part

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<v Speaker 1>of a group of people and they don't think that

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<v Speaker 1>they have the right kind of influence to make a

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<v Speaker 1>difference spiritually. But I would argue you and say, just

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<v Speaker 1>don't ever doubt the fact that God has placed you

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<v Speaker 1>where you are. Leverage your influence to make a difference.

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<v Speaker 1>Did I ever tell you when we went to Cuba?

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<v Speaker 1>Because you and I went to Cuba together. I brought

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<v Speaker 1>Eddie Nappenberger is a good friend of mine and he

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<v Speaker 1>used to actually, uh, one of the only people that

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<v Speaker 1>I even know in my whole life that dabbled in this.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, I guess it's it's not it's not a religion,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's a Santa Ria and it's it's really just

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<v Speaker 1>a combination of voodoo and Catholicism. That was It just

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<v Speaker 1>happened to the island of Cuba, right, It just developed

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<v Speaker 1>over the centuries because the Spaniards were there and they

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<v Speaker 1>and they brought the Catholicism and.

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<v Speaker 2>Then there was a voodoo and everything else.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, So the point is is that I invite Eddie

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<v Speaker 1>to Cuba, not even knowing he had this background.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the people on the island, a lot of them have.

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<v Speaker 1>Santa Ria, and by the way it's a kind of weird,

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<v Speaker 1>weird kind of thing to get statues with, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>crying with blood and all these weird things. And so anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>we're visiting a house together and I'm trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>through this guy and this guy is just looking at

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<v Speaker 1>me like, you know, whatever, dude, whatever your whatever you

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<v Speaker 1>And then all of a sudden, Eddie leans forward and says,

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<v Speaker 1>so I noticed.

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<v Speaker 2>And all of a sudden he starts talking.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, so, what you're referring to is the is

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<v Speaker 1>the ocean coming up to thea And he starts mentioning

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<v Speaker 1>all these different people and all these different steps everything else,

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<v Speaker 1>and all of a sudden, this guy leans forward and

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<v Speaker 1>he goes yes. He says, well, let me tell you

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<v Speaker 1>why Jesus, you know, saved my life and all this

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<v Speaker 1>kind of things. That guy leaned into that, And I

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<v Speaker 1>thought to myself, now, who knew that that God wanted

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<v Speaker 1>me to ask Eddie the perfect guy for this moment.

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<v Speaker 3>Right right, because of the commonality with both of them

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<v Speaker 3>understanding century on a level you can't even comprehend, like

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<v Speaker 3>you stumbled through even what it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I was I was trying to be respectful to you, but.

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<v Speaker 1>They have all these figurines and statues with different names.

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<v Speaker 3>The city of it is unbelievable, and the demonic work

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<v Speaker 3>within it is pretty substantial.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>And so for Eddie to be able to communicate directly

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<v Speaker 3>with that guy, yes, on a level, not on an

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<v Speaker 3>academic level, but on a practical I lived your life.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and it was. It was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was brilliant to watch, but it was literally in

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<v Speaker 1>that moment, I kid you not. I just I recognized

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<v Speaker 1>the bigness of God here and I thought, man, way

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<v Speaker 1>back three months ago, when God just said, hey, ask him,

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<v Speaker 1>he'd be good for him.

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<v Speaker 2>I had no idea that he was going to be

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<v Speaker 2>the most qualified person in this room at this moment,

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<v Speaker 2>which was great.

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<v Speaker 3>And there's some mom listening who goes, oh, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>have some extravment. Yes, but you're a uniquely positioned to

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<v Speaker 3>reach moms. There's there's some tool and Die guy who

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not a ministry. Yeah, but you can reach tool

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<v Speaker 3>and Die guys right right. God has positioned you specifically

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<v Speaker 3>to reach the people that you're around. He's not waiting

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<v Speaker 3>for Chris and Jeff to show up to lead them

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<v Speaker 3>to Jesus. He sent you to go lead them to.

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<v Speaker 2>Jeth right or an invitation to a Christmas service.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right, Yep, that's right. So it's pretty great. God's

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<v Speaker 3>in control. That's what this whole thing's about.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's probably a great place to end, and so

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<v Speaker 1>we will see you next time, hopefully on the Bible.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys,