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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun in

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<v Speaker 1>practical ways.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, good morning everybody. We are the Bible Guys, and

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<v Speaker 2>we are back. We are back today. What is today?

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<v Speaker 1>Wednesday or Thursday?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know either.

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<v Speaker 1>How many?

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<v Speaker 2>How many do we do?

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<v Speaker 3>We've been going back to back to back to back.

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<v Speaker 1>Baby, all right, we did Monday, we did Tuesday, we

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<v Speaker 1>did Wednesday. Oh, today is Thursday. People are yelling Thursday, yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, Today's Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, dad, gummt. I'm sorry, it's Wednesday.

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<v Speaker 2>So Wednesday is humpday.

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<v Speaker 3>It is the middle of the week, middle of the week.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope that everybody is doing well getting through the week.

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<v Speaker 3>This is going to be amazing. So we've been working

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<v Speaker 3>on you know, you've mentioned several times you want to

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<v Speaker 3>reshoot our roll in. Oh yeah, sure, walking in. So

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<v Speaker 3>we need to redo that. But we also feel like

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<v Speaker 3>it's time to upgrade the theme song. We need a

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<v Speaker 3>theme song, which we have none. We need a theme song.

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<v Speaker 2>So we've tried, we have great or nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>We've tried so many options, all kinds of TV theme songs,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, to the tune of dukes of hazard and

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<v Speaker 3>cheers and all those. Well, today, what I thought is

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<v Speaker 3>what we need? None of those worked for us. They've

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<v Speaker 3>been good, Chris, You've done a noble job trying to

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<v Speaker 3>make it work. But what we were thinking is perhaps

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<v Speaker 3>we need something more, more regal, more impressive, with more

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<v Speaker 3>just make you want to stand up and salute. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>So we asked chat gpt. We asked chat gpt to

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<v Speaker 3>help us write a theme song for The Bible Guys,

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<v Speaker 3>which is just a podcast about two guys, two buddies

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<v Speaker 3>who like to talk about the Bible in front of

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<v Speaker 3>practical ways. And we asked chat gpt to write us

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<v Speaker 3>a theme song to the tune of the Star Spangled Banner.

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<v Speaker 2>Which which can get?

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<v Speaker 1>Can you get more pretentious?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>So so I'm really curious to see how that worked

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<v Speaker 3>out for you. Would you sing it for Chris grace us?

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<v Speaker 3>Have you ever sung the Starspanko banner at a baseball game? I?

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<v Speaker 3>Have you have? Of course? You have?

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<v Speaker 2>Have you not?

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<v Speaker 3>No? No, I wasn't a good a single.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, here we go, okay, and by the way, my

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<v Speaker 1>throat like, here we go, and I'm not hopefully, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>want to get this right.

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<v Speaker 3>Here we go.

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<v Speaker 1>It goes, Oh, say, can you hear from your couch,

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<v Speaker 1>car or phone to best butts cracking jokes with a

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<v Speaker 1>Bible in tone, with a verse in one hand and

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<v Speaker 1>some coffee nearby. They'll explain live Viticus and probably why

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<v Speaker 1>this way too high? We will dive deep into truth

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<v Speaker 1>while still making you laugh lo cast on it plagues

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<v Speaker 1>to Paul's missionary path.

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<v Speaker 2>So grab your.

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<v Speaker 1>Ear buds and lower your expectation. It's the Bible show

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<v Speaker 1>heard around the name.

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<v Speaker 3>Shall you literally fit in Leviticus.

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<v Speaker 2>And the Yes and Paul's missionary journeys?

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<v Speaker 3>And lower your expectations. So let's set the table. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>I think we should seriously consider adopting that one. Oh

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<v Speaker 3>you think so yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Wow? That so far? Wow, that's the front runner?

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<v Speaker 3>Feels like it to me. I mean the tune was right,

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<v Speaker 3>The tune was right. Yeah, it has all the all

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<v Speaker 3>the the panache that a show like this deserves.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I didn't sleep well last night and you can

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<v Speaker 1>hear my voice.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm struggling.

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<v Speaker 3>Well. The Bible says that the Lord gives rest to

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<v Speaker 3>those he loves.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I wow, is that all you sleep like

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<v Speaker 1>a baby, Jack, because everybody knows you do.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody knows you do you straight to bed like a baby?

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<v Speaker 3>I do.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh anyway, but then I started this in like

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<v Speaker 1>what like the highest key ever.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that was funny. Anyway, that was awesome, Chris, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that man, it was a treat. Yeah, you're in your

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<v Speaker 3>pay today. That was fab which means.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, uh we get absolutely zero for the podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're gonna get a raised today.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Double, We're gonna double it today. Yeah, you're getting

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<v Speaker 3>a hazard pay.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey is that coffee in your cup?

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<v Speaker 1>From nothing to nothing?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Well so then you were being honest about it

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<v Speaker 3>because I don't drink coffee, So I was thinking that

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<v Speaker 3>lyric is not entirely true. But you're drinking coffee, Oh

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<v Speaker 3>it is?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh because the lyrics.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you with coffee and uh, what did you say,

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<v Speaker 1>coffee in one hand or something?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, verse in one hand and some coffee nearby.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, Hey, how did you know that we drink That's fantastic.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, it's probably just an assumption. Well, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>talking about I have no idea. I have no transition

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<v Speaker 3>for this one.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, have that one?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, So the thing is well done, thou good and

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<v Speaker 1>faithful servant?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh oh yeah, well done, Chris, Thank you, well done, Chris,

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<v Speaker 3>thank you. Speaking of well done.

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<v Speaker 1>You know I've always tried Jeff to be a good

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<v Speaker 1>and faithful service. When you asked me to do these crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>Speaking of being a good and faithful service, yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's okay, perfect. That was a perfect setup. Good job, Chris.

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<v Speaker 3>So we're doing this series. We're in on the podcast,

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<v Speaker 3>which is what if Jesus had a podcast?

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<v Speaker 1>That segment only works if I did well?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, and you did okay, good, fabulous, already said fabulous?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>When was the last time I said? I've said fabulous

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<v Speaker 3>five times on this show, which is five times more

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<v Speaker 3>than I've said on any other show of the almost

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<v Speaker 3>nine hundred episodes we've done. Wow, right you think about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow fabulous Chris, that's six six times. So anyways, serious

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<v Speaker 3>about Jesus. Yeah, if Jesus had a podcast, and so

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<v Speaker 3>we're just taking famous statements that he made, and the

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<v Speaker 3>well done, good and faithful servants. One of his famous

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<v Speaker 3>statements we find this in Matthew chapter twenty five, and.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the statement that we all long to hear

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<v Speaker 1>exactly right. So when we get to heaven, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the things that we want is this.

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<v Speaker 3>I would say, up until this point in heaven, by

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<v Speaker 3>the time we hit that mark, I don't think that

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<v Speaker 3>in that moment there will be nothing more important in

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<v Speaker 3>all of our existence than that moment. Yeah, I can't think.

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<v Speaker 3>And here's what it says again. The Kingdom of heaven

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<v Speaker 3>can be illustrated by the story of a man going

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<v Speaker 3>on a long trip. He called together his servants and

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<v Speaker 3>entrusted his money to them while he was gone, and

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<v Speaker 3>he gave five bags of silver to one, two bags

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<v Speaker 3>of silver to another, one bag of silver to the last,

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<v Speaker 3>dividing it in proportion to their abilities. He then left

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<v Speaker 3>on his trip. The servant who received the five bags

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<v Speaker 3>of silver began to invest the money and earned five more.

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<v Speaker 3>The servant with two bags of silver also went to

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<v Speaker 3>work and earned two more. But the servant who received

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<v Speaker 3>and hid the master's money. After a long time, their

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<v Speaker 3>forward with five more and said, Master, you gave me

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<v Speaker 3>five bags of silver to invest, and I've earned five more.

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<v Speaker 3>The master was full of praise. Well done, my good

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<v Speaker 3>and faithful servant. You've been faithful in the handling of

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<v Speaker 3>this small amount, so now I will give you many

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<v Speaker 3>more responsibilities. Let's celebrate together. The servant who'd received the

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<v Speaker 3>two bags of silver came forward and said, Master, you

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<v Speaker 3>gave me two bags of silver to invest, and I've

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<v Speaker 3>earned two more. The master said, well done, my good

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<v Speaker 3>and faithful servant. You've been faithful in handling this small amount,

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<v Speaker 3>so now I will give you many more responsibilities. Let's

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<v Speaker 3>celebrate together. Then the servant with the one bag of

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<v Speaker 3>silver came and said, Master, I knew you were a

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<v Speaker 3>harsh man, harvesting crops you didn't plant, and gathering crops

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<v Speaker 3>so I hid it in the earth. Look here your

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<v Speaker 3>money back. But the master replied, you wicked and lazy servant.

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<v Speaker 3>If you knew I harvested crops I didn't plant, and

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<v Speaker 3>gathered crops I didn't cultivate. Why do you need deposit

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<v Speaker 3>my money in the bank. At least I would have

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<v Speaker 3>gotten some interest on it. And then he ordered take

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<v Speaker 3>one with the ten bags of silver. To those who

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<v Speaker 3>use well what they are given, even more will be given,

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<v Speaker 3>and they will have an abundance. But from those who

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<v Speaker 3>do nothing, even what little they have will be taken away.

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<v Speaker 3>Now throw this useful servant into outer darkness, where they'll

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<v Speaker 3>be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Whoo yeah, wow, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>no kidding. What a story. Yes, I like most of it.

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<v Speaker 3>This is also a big fanom like two thirds of

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<v Speaker 3>that story, right, big fan, big fans.

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<v Speaker 1>This is also known as the Ten Talents, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right. So it translates here into bags of silver

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<v Speaker 1>in this translation. But a talent was a form of payment.

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<v Speaker 3>Right yeah, it was like a guess, that's exactly the US.

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<v Speaker 1>That's exactly what us. But but a lot of versions

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<v Speaker 1>use the word talent.

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<v Speaker 3>It's all I was trying to say, Yeah, it was.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a form of currency, so that the talent

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<v Speaker 3>was like saying one hundred dollars bill.

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<v Speaker 1>Which which I've always didn't like because we hear the

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<v Speaker 1>word talent and.

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<v Speaker 3>We think of skill ye, skill sets, right.

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<v Speaker 1>So I like this translation better. Yeah, But however, I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to say this. I remember, uh, this scripture

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<v Speaker 1>being taught, and I remember a friend and a mentor

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<v Speaker 1>of mine for a short time when I lived in

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<v Speaker 1>Atlanta was Louis Giglio, And so Louis was talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the idea that there are some people who are one

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<v Speaker 1>talent people, and there are some that are five talent people,

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<v Speaker 1>and there are some that are ten talent people. And

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<v Speaker 1>he says, it's not it's not, it is just what

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<v Speaker 1>it is like to some people, God just gives many

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<v Speaker 1>more responsibilities, and then that person thrives when they're given

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<v Speaker 1>a certain aoun responsibilities. Then God gives them more, and

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<v Speaker 1>then God gives them more, and God gives them more.

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<v Speaker 1>And he says, in some people they're just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're given two talents, and then they end up getting

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<v Speaker 1>four talents, and then they spend most of their ministry

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<v Speaker 1>being sort of like four talent people. And it was

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<v Speaker 1>He goes, you had no talents and God gave you two,

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<v Speaker 1>And he says, and that's what God wants you to

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<v Speaker 1>And he says, do the best you can with those

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<v Speaker 1>two talents. And I started thinking to myself, Wow, that's

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<v Speaker 1>all different kinds of churches everywhere for all different kinds

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, isn't that interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So when he's saying, hey, here's bags of money.

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<v Speaker 3>What anytime you read these these stories that Jesus tells,

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<v Speaker 3>represents God fund that's right. So here it's a The

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<v Speaker 3>Kingdom of Heaven can be illustrated by the story of

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<v Speaker 3>a man a long journey. He calls together his servants

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<v Speaker 3>and then he entrusts them with his stuff. Right. This

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<v Speaker 3>is a common theme in Jesus' stories too. Oh yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 3>So all the stuff is the rich man's stuff, all

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<v Speaker 3>All the stuff is his father's and he asks for

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<v Speaker 3>some of it. Right. In this situation, it's the same.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's a rich man who brings the servants and

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<v Speaker 3>all the stuff's my stuff. I'm gonna give you five,

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<v Speaker 3>and hey, i'd love it if you guys areld do

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<v Speaker 3>something with it. And so we have to remember, first

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<v Speaker 3>of all, in every story, Jesus tells us, none of

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<v Speaker 3>the stuff is actually our stuff, right, that would totally

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<v Speaker 3>change our perspective.

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<v Speaker 1>It's his vineyard, it's his money.

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<v Speaker 3>So whether you're talking about talents, you're talking about money,

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<v Speaker 3>you're talking about opportunities, you're talking about your house, your car,

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<v Speaker 3>your stuff. It's the king's stuff, it's the rich man stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>it's the father's stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason why that is is because we recognize

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<v Speaker 1>that all blessings come from God, even children, right, children

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<v Speaker 1>come from God. All of our money, God gives us

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<v Speaker 1>our opportunities. In fact, we just planned this series yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>where the idea was upcoming like eight weeks from now

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<v Speaker 1>at Heritage Church. And the idea is, people say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I earned my money. I earned Who do you think,

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<v Speaker 1>what the idea is, I take care of me. And

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<v Speaker 1>whereas God would say, and he has said to job,

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<v Speaker 1>who do you think gave you intelligence? Who do you

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<v Speaker 1>think made the blind, the deaf, and the dumb?

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<v Speaker 2>Who gave you the ability.

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<v Speaker 1>To have the opportunities? Everything comes from God.

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<v Speaker 3>So this is how Jesus stories always go. It's all his.

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<v Speaker 3>And then I love it the fact that it says

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<v Speaker 3>he gave five to bags of silver to one guy,

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<v Speaker 3>two bags of silver to another, and one bag of

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<v Speaker 3>silver to the last, dividing in proportion to their abilities. Yep,

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<v Speaker 3>and then he left it up to them. Yeah, he

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<v Speaker 3>left on the trip.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't that crazy?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? And God, Jesus never tries to send this idea

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<v Speaker 3>of of fairness. So it is interesting because Jesus does

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<v Speaker 3>promote the idea of equality. God loves the whole world.

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<v Speaker 3>God so loved the whole world that he gave us

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<v Speaker 3>one gospel and it's available to everyone who. Jesus literally says,

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<v Speaker 3>whosoever will may come, that's what he says. So equality

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<v Speaker 3>is a part of Jesus' mindset in that your value

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<v Speaker 3>is the same as others to God, he wants you

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<v Speaker 3>in his kingdom, but your abilities are not equal. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>So fairness is never part of the story. He looks

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<v Speaker 3>at the abilities, how you're wired, the opportunities you've had,

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<v Speaker 3>all these things. He goes, Okay, I'm gonna trust you five.

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<v Speaker 3>So the story for the listener, we're tempted to hear

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<v Speaker 3>that's not fair. Five two and one is what we

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<v Speaker 3>all heard. We all heard five two and one.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right.

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<v Speaker 3>But for the King, for this Master, it was not

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<v Speaker 3>about five two and one. It was about what did

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<v Speaker 3>you do with what you have? He did not challenge

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<v Speaker 3>the guy with one thing and say, why didn't you

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<v Speaker 3>get me five more? Right? Right? He didn't say that right.

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<v Speaker 3>He doesn't say to the one with two who came

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<v Speaker 3>back with four, four is good? But you hear about

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<v Speaker 3>that other guy he brought me ten. He never compares them,

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<v Speaker 3>because God is not comparing us to the other person.

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<v Speaker 3>You will not be measured by the accomplishments of somebody else.

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<v Speaker 3>You will only be measured by God, whether you're a

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<v Speaker 3>good and faithful servant or a wicked servant, only based

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<v Speaker 3>on what you did with what God gave you. And

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<v Speaker 3>I've heard so many Christians go, I just don't really

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<v Speaker 3>have much to offer God. And my response almost always is,

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<v Speaker 3>but are you giving all of what you have to God? Right?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you doing all you can for him? He's not

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<v Speaker 3>going to measure you based on what Jeff can do,

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<v Speaker 3>or what Chris can do, or somebody else can do.

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<v Speaker 3>He's going to measure you based on the investment he

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<v Speaker 3>made in you, and he wants you. By the way,

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred percent return is really impressive, Right, He's not

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<v Speaker 3>looking for a thirty five percent return. Hey, I'd love

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<v Speaker 3>it if you just remember fact. He's frustrated with this guy, going, dude,

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<v Speaker 3>these other two doubled it, but here you are. You

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<v Speaker 3>didn't even think to put it in the bank. Get

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<v Speaker 3>a little interest. Right, He's looking for some kind of return.

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<v Speaker 3>But in Jesus' story, the return that was given was

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred percent. That was that well done, good and

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<v Speaker 3>faithful servant kind of thing. As I took what you

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<v Speaker 3>And that's really something when we think about it, that

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<v Speaker 3>this is God's expectation, is significant return for the investment

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<v Speaker 3>he's made in your life. Right. There's frustration with the

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<v Speaker 3>guy that he didn't at least get a little interest.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's clear in Jesus' story what he's wanting is

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<v Speaker 3>significant return for what God's invested.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and there's a direct correlation with blessings here because

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<v Speaker 1>what he's saying is is he saying, like, hey, you've

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<v Speaker 1>not been faithful with what little I gave you, So therefore.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna give you anymore, right right, I'm gona

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<v Speaker 3>trust you more.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna trust you more. He goes, In fact, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get. I'm gonna get with what I gave to you,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm gonna give to this other guy who's really

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<v Speaker 1>faithful and so so it just goes to show you

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<v Speaker 1>that regardless of how much you have, as long as

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<v Speaker 1>you're faithful with what God has given you, God then

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<v Speaker 3>You with more. Here's what I like to do with

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<v Speaker 3>these stories. I don't know if our listeners do this.

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<v Speaker 3>When I read the stories like this and I see

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<v Speaker 3>Jesus break it into threes, I want to be the

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<v Speaker 3>good and faithful servant, don't you? Oh yeah, okay? So

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<v Speaker 3>usually what I do in these stories is I set

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<v Speaker 3>aside the bad part of the story, and I go,

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<v Speaker 3>that's not gonna be me, right, So then I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>thinking about fairness. I'm just thinking about I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>if I'm a five talent guy, but I do believe

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<v Speaker 3>i'm a two talent guy. I'm gonna give him everything

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<v Speaker 3>I got because his intent was you've been faithful handling

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<v Speaker 3>this amount. So it was a test you understand that

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<v Speaker 3>the whole thing. It was never about the two or

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<v Speaker 3>can I trust you because I've got more for you?

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<v Speaker 3>That's exciting to me if you can move beyond the

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<v Speaker 3>story of saying God expects a return and instead realize

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<v Speaker 3>he has more for me, if I'm faithful with what

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<v Speaker 3>I want to take the two and turn it into four.

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<v Speaker 3>But wait, wait, it doesn't end at four. There's more.

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<v Speaker 3>Not only that. He says, let's throw a party, let's

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<v Speaker 3>celebrate together. God's intent is he wants to celebrate. He

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<v Speaker 3>wants this to be fun. He wants this to be

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<v Speaker 3>beyond the kind of joy that you and I could

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<v Speaker 3>imagine they only saw two. He doesn't say, hey, listen,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to give you two, but I've got a

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<v Speaker 3>big plan beyond the two. He just goes, let's see

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<v Speaker 3>how you do with the two, and then he comes

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<v Speaker 3>back with four, and God goes, dude, I can trust

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<v Speaker 3>you with a little bit. I'm gonna give you way more.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's have a party, and so let's set aside the negative.

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<v Speaker 3>But let's just decide we are not going to be

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<v Speaker 3>the unfaithful servant. And let's go and say I might

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<v Speaker 3>not be the five talent that Chris is, but I'm

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<v Speaker 3>a two talent, right, so I'm gonna I'm gonna do

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<v Speaker 3>And then just understand he intends to do far more

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<v Speaker 1>Always always take the five talent. And I placed it

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, let's make Billy Graham the five talent guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so we're the twos right for sure. But but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it is amazing. In fact, I remember, I remember we

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, Bill Apples ran into some trouble later

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<v Speaker 1>of America right and around the world. But anyway, somebody

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<v Speaker 1>They were literally measuring everything, and Louis told the story

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<v Speaker 1>What the heck? Because you know, obviously those buildings are

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And that's what he was really doing as he

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<v Speaker 1>guess what this kind of building belongs to a five

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<v Speaker 1>talent person, right, and yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't see it as in, I can't measure

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<v Speaker 3>up to what somebody else said. I don't even I

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<v Speaker 3>hardly ever think well they have more or they have

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<v Speaker 3>more opportunity. I don't want I don't want that to

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<v Speaker 3>be a part of my thinking. It creeps in, it

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<v Speaker 3>crosses my mind sometimes. I don't want that to be

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<v Speaker 3>a part of my thinking. I only want to be

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<v Speaker 3>thinking what do I have in front of me? And

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<v Speaker 3>how do I maximize it? What do I have in

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<v Speaker 3>front of me?

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<v Speaker 1>And how Just to be clear, Louis was only talking

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<v Speaker 1>to the complainers. Yeah, sure, for those who compared themselves

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<v Speaker 1>among them.

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<v Speaker 3>You've been a part here at Heritage, you know, we've

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<v Speaker 3>been on a I think the last fifteen years we're

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<v Speaker 3>averaging twenty four percent growth or something like that. It's

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<v Speaker 3>some crazy thing on a year over year over year

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<v Speaker 3>over year over year. Not twenty four percent over the

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<v Speaker 3>last fifteen years, twenty four percent every year for fifteen years.

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<v Speaker 3>And so now here we have our building is too small,

446
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<v Speaker 3>we don't have enough, we don't have enough parking, we

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<v Speaker 3>don't have a big budget. As a matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 3>we're in the bottom ten percent of all churches our

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<v Speaker 3>size in America as far as how much money comes in.

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<v Speaker 3>Part of that's our county, and part of it is

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<v Speaker 3>you and I are bad at talking about money. So

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<v Speaker 3>there's that, right. We have not yet led our people

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<v Speaker 3>to be generous this way. But the bigger picture is this.

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<v Speaker 3>In my mind, I'm not looking at going there are

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<v Speaker 3>places even in our county with way bigger buildings. There

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<v Speaker 3>are places in Southeast Michigan that have way more money

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<v Speaker 3>coming in per person. Instead, I'm just looking at it going, well,

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<v Speaker 3>we've only got seven hundred and fifty seats. We got

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<v Speaker 3>thousands and thousands and thousands of people try to figure

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<v Speaker 3>out how to come to our Sterling Heights campus. We

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<v Speaker 3>don't have the money to do more things. I guess

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<v Speaker 3>we're gonnadd too more services. So instead of doing four

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<v Speaker 3>it started off we were doing one. Then we did

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<v Speaker 3>two services, and we went to three services, and we

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<v Speaker 3>went to four services. Now we're going to six services,

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<v Speaker 3>all in the same building, all identical services. So God

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<v Speaker 3>gave us this. Alls I'm trying to do is figure

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<v Speaker 3>out how to maximize it. He gave us a building,

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<v Speaker 3>and we were dreaming could we ever fill this building?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>Could we ever fill it? And then we started thinking, well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>we can fill it. How about what's it going to

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<v Speaker 3>take to do it twice? And then what's it gonna

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<v Speaker 3>take to do three times? What's gonna take to do four?

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<v Speaker 3>What was gonna take to do six times? Now is

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<v Speaker 3>what we're dreaming about. And I hope that God looks

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<v Speaker 3>at that and goes, hey, you've been favored a little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I gave you this little building. It's not

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<v Speaker 3>a little building. It's sixty five thousand square feet or something,

480
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<v Speaker 3>but it's small for what we're trying to accomplish. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>And I gave you a parking lot that's a little

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<v Speaker 3>too small, all those things, but it was enough. It's

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<v Speaker 3>enough if we would choose to decide there are no

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<v Speaker 3>limits on what God's trying to do. I'm the one

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<v Speaker 3>who places those limits. Now, I would say this, it's

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<v Speaker 3>scary to be an investor. So my wife and I,

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<v Speaker 3>she always teases me because I usually don't play a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of video games. The only video game I really

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<v Speaker 3>play is Call of Duty Mobile. I play that on

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<v Speaker 3>my phone some, but even then I'll go months without

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<v Speaker 3>playing it. But I do like to fiddle around with

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<v Speaker 3>investment apps, especially like the free investment things where it's

493
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<v Speaker 3>it's a simulator. I don't know why, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you take risks and for a while you usually as

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<v Speaker 3>my fact right now, I actually have an actual investment

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<v Speaker 3>portfolio that I'm managing. It's not big, it's just a

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<v Speaker 3>couple thousand bucks, but I'm it's it's because I want

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<v Speaker 3>to learn the pressure of trading real money, right, because

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of pressure in that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And for the first six months of this year, I

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<v Speaker 3>put it. I put I put some spending money in there,

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<v Speaker 3>a couple thousand bucks, and for the first six months

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<v Speaker 3>of this year, I've gone negative, but I'm convinced it

505
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<v Speaker 3>was the right investment. Well, just this week I turned positive. Right, right,

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<v Speaker 3>I turn positive. So there's a lot of risk. It

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<v Speaker 3>feels it's uncomfortable to risk money. It's uncomfortable to do things.

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<v Speaker 3>And so he's asking them why. The one guy, because

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<v Speaker 3>he was afraid, just hit it and said, hey, I

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<v Speaker 3>hope you're happy. I gave back what you gave me.

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<v Speaker 3>And he's like, I expect you at least to take

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<v Speaker 3>some kind of risk in order to achieve it requires

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<v Speaker 3>that we have the guts to take a risk. But

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<v Speaker 3>then what the story doesn't include is the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>we have the Holy Spirit to guide us to protect us. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>and so it's going to require that we get out

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<v Speaker 3>of our comfort zone, that we risk a little bit,

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<v Speaker 3>and then just trust the process. He trusted you with

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<v Speaker 3>what he gave you, knowing that you do have the ability.

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<v Speaker 3>None of them does he say, well I gave it

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<v Speaker 3>to you, bit I never believed you had the ability

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<v Speaker 3>what he gave you. You do have. It's according to

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<v Speaker 3>your ability. You do have the ability to produce a

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<v Speaker 3>return for his investment. And so you just have to

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<v Speaker 3>be willing to take that risk.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's great.

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<v Speaker 3>It's exciting to me. I read this, it's exciting to me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, well it's it's great.

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<v Speaker 1>And uh and I think that God was really clear,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and is uh this is one of the illustrations,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the parables that are just pretty crystal clear.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So uh and when we.

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<v Speaker 3>Get to heaven, that's what I want to hear. Is

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<v Speaker 3>well done, you good and faithful service. That's right, that's that.

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<v Speaker 3>The next few verses he talks about heaven specifically, and

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<v Speaker 3>he uses that phrase again. That's great.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's a great place to end, and hopefully we

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<v Speaker 1>will see you tomorrow on the Bible guys.

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<v Speaker 3>H