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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to the Bible Guys, a podcast where a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun, in

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<v Speaker 1>practical ways. The death of Saul.

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<v Speaker 2>Whoa welcome, Thanks you for tuning in.

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<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to start the podcast a little different

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<v Speaker 1>morbid Yes, bump on today Saul dies on the podcast. No, no, no, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>welcome to the Bible Guys. We just thought we'd wake

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<v Speaker 1>you up. But I'm Chris, He's Jeff, and we are

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<v Speaker 1>just a couple of guys that like to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the Bible. And today we are actually bringing to an end,

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<v Speaker 1>or wrapping up or putting a bow on Saul's rain,

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<v Speaker 1>the very first king of Israel.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>But before we do that, we have a segment, and

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<v Speaker 1>this is one of my favorite segments. I like these.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you like these?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you like them?

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<v Speaker 2>Who's most likely?

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<v Speaker 1>And we have to do it quick. That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't read these.

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<v Speaker 1>I have not read these.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't even contemplated them.

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<v Speaker 1>And we just sort of like ask a question, or

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<v Speaker 1>actually desiree asks questions. Yes, and then you and I

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<v Speaker 1>have to either vote me or you.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, right, yes, all.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So I'll take the first one.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Who's most likely to buy something ridiculous online and then

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<v Speaker 1>pretend it was a joke? Mmm, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I don't buy much on the line.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean neither, But I'll just maybe say me.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'll vote for you too.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, you're voted only because you get one only because

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like.

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<v Speaker 2>That's an odd one.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a little bit more ridiculous with no purpose than you.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, would you agree with that?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I'm gonna get two votes, two votes for that,

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<v Speaker 3>two thumbs up.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>Who's most likely to adopt a pet rock and treat

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<v Speaker 3>it like royalty?

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<v Speaker 1>Hmmm?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you have a pet rock?

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<v Speaker 1>I did? I had many rocks when I was a kid.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, but then I'm going to vote for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm gonna vote for me too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I had.

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<v Speaker 3>I had somebody give me a pet rock, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>one of the ones.

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<v Speaker 1>Were the official ones?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, in a box.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, And I remember looking at it then and going

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<v Speaker 3>what Yeah, somebody put Google eyes out of rock and

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<v Speaker 3>sold it.

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<v Speaker 2>To you, and they paid money for this.

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<v Speaker 1>They were very popular. That guy was laughing all the

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<v Speaker 1>way to the Yeah. Yeah, he literally found the rocks,

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<v Speaker 1>and all he had to do was buy Google.

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<v Speaker 2>Eyes and put him in a box.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, by the way, I I bet you I had

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<v Speaker 1>four or five legitimate Google eye pet rocks. And I

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<v Speaker 1>had a collection of rocks for years and years. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>like boxes of rocks that.

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<v Speaker 2>Were cool, like like just things that captured you attention.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you know, legitimate no, no, no, legitimate geology. Just

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<v Speaker 1>be like, look at this one. This one's green.

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<v Speaker 2>Cool, that kind of thing, collecting rocks.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I had a collection of rocks.

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<v Speaker 2>I have fossils in my office.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well that's better.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah they're rocks.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, sure, petrified and fossils. Okay, here's the third one

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<v Speaker 1>who's most likely to think they're really good at karaoke

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<v Speaker 1>but actually aren't.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you really would be, So it's gonna have to

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<v Speaker 2>be me.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna I'm gonna say you then.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's gonna have to be me.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think i'd actually really good.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think I would be really good at karaoke personally. No.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, have you ever done karaoke?

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<v Speaker 2>Of course I've never done Carrio? What never?

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<v Speaker 1>Who has never done Karrio?

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<v Speaker 2>Never done karaoke of any kind ever?

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<v Speaker 1>I've done karaoke fifty times.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, publicly, No, I've never I have.

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<v Speaker 1>A video right now karaoke.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe you.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe I'm not gonna play it, but I've done it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. Well, then maybe you're the one that thinks you're

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<v Speaker 2>really good.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it could be fifty times, Yeah, could be.

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<v Speaker 3>Who's most likely to invent a new dance move that

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<v Speaker 3>becomes an Internet sensation? That's definitely you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's pause.

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<v Speaker 2>You've seen my dance moves.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I but I'm right there with you, though. Boy,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that the only way it would be a

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<v Speaker 1>sensation if it's like the Carlton dance from from a

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<v Speaker 1>Fresh beell Air, Right is that one? It's like be

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<v Speaker 1>something goofy like that. Yes, it wouldnt be an actual sensation. Okay, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>then here's the last one. Who's most likely to lose

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<v Speaker 1>their phone in the fridge?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh me, I have Oh wow, I've lost my phone

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<v Speaker 2>in the fridge.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never done that. Yeah, well that's definitely you.

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<v Speaker 3>I just set stuff down when I walked somewhere, I

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<v Speaker 3>sat stuff down. I forget where it was, so I

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<v Speaker 3>was going through some stuff. All of a sudden, I

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<v Speaker 2>My phone down, do it all. Then I'm walking I

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<v Speaker 2>cannot find my phone.

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<v Speaker 3>And then we were sitting in the dining room area

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<v Speaker 3>and somebody called me and you could hear it buzzing

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<v Speaker 3>in a fridge.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness, my phone. Then you get right, how

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<v Speaker 1>long was in there?

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<v Speaker 2>Not enough to long enough to make it cold?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's so funny. I've definitely never done that, and

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<v Speaker 1>nor will I do. I ever think I would actually

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<v Speaker 1>set a phone in.

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<v Speaker 2>A fridge, like I just set stuff down.

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<v Speaker 1>I know I do too, but I think if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I've got something in my hand, I just don't think

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<v Speaker 1>instinctively I would set a phone down.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't have found it either, But it happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what you used to say.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd forget my head if it wasn't attached to my body,

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<v Speaker 3>right like you'd lose it.

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<v Speaker 2>You'd lose your head.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's definitely me at times, for sure. Yeah. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>my wife says, My wife says, how can you have

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<v Speaker 1>such an incredible memory on some things, and then like

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<v Speaker 1>not know where your keys are?

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<v Speaker 3>Always my keys, my wallet, my phone. Yeah I'm always

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<v Speaker 3>missing one of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, yeah, and you know what, Liz, men need

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<v Speaker 1>men purses.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I don't think we do.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, but I'm saying like I wish I sort

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<v Speaker 1>of wish that was a stylish thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Well kind of is. Now you get the like the shoulder.

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<v Speaker 1>Bags, well not for real, man, not for.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to have a bun, you have to have any.

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<v Speaker 1>Chest, right and then and then we look like you

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<v Speaker 1>always need a shower always always okay, right, and unshaven.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you can wear a man purse.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, immerse, immerse. Yeah that's all right. Now you're really

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<v Speaker 2>going to get the hate mail.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I know I really can carry. Yeah right, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what's coming. When I was a youth pastor, we

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<v Speaker 1>used to have this thing where all the football players

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<v Speaker 1>would tease cheerleaders because we knew that they worked hard,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like because you know in youth group, she

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<v Speaker 1>had both the cheerleaders and in the in the uh

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<v Speaker 1>in the football players. But I had two football players

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<v Speaker 1>that came to my youth group. Specifically, they used to

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<v Speaker 1>tease the cheerleaders because they wouldn't call them real athletes.

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<v Speaker 1>So they would do a cheer. No, they would do

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<v Speaker 1>a cheer and they woul they would pack their knees

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<v Speaker 1>and they would go. They would just do this, they

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<v Speaker 1>would go, cheerleaders are athletes too.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no, oh no, okay, so just send uh, send

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<v Speaker 3>all of your hate mail to I didn't say the

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<v Speaker 3>guys dot com didn't say.

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<v Speaker 1>It was me. I think cheerleaders are incredible athletes.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, okay, I'm just.

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<v Speaker 1>Telling you that that was a funny thing that they did,

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<v Speaker 1>y Bible guys dot com. Oh, I frowned on it.

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<v Speaker 2>I frowned on it. I disapproved of that. Now that

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<v Speaker 2>you told this story and laughed about it. Okay, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>speaking of death.

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<v Speaker 1>Right right right? There's no transition to this, none at all.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, yesterday we talked about Samuel warns Saul

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<v Speaker 3>that he's going to die.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>Then a few pages later, all kinds of things happen.

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<v Speaker 3>The Philistines finally kicked David out of the out of

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<v Speaker 3>their camp. People start coming to David, Lots of soldiers,

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<v Speaker 3>lots of people in Israel start to shift their loyalty

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<v Speaker 3>over to David. David winds up actually destroying the Amalekites. Finally,

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<v Speaker 3>the ones that Saul did not. David goes through and

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<v Speaker 3>God uses him to bring judgment on the Amalekites. And

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<v Speaker 3>then after that, even more people come and start joining

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<v Speaker 3>David's army. And then but the Philistines were a perpetual

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<v Speaker 3>thorn in Saul's side. And here's what happens. In First Samul,

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<v Speaker 3>chapter thirty one, it says, now the Philistines attacked Israel,

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<v Speaker 3>and the men of Israel fled before them. Many were

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<v Speaker 3>slaughtered on the slopes of Mount Gilboa. The Philistines closed

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<v Speaker 3>in on Saul and his sons, and they killed three

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<v Speaker 3>of his sons, Jonathan and Benedab and milk Ashua. Wow, Malkashua, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know that I've even heard that name.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh so it sounds like he's from Hawaii.

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<v Speaker 2>Malkashua. Yeah, Polynesian, Yeah maybe so, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Polynesian. Sauced chick fil Asia. Really good.

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<v Speaker 2>They go.

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<v Speaker 3>The fighting grew very fierce around Saul, and the Philistine

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<v Speaker 3>archers caught up with him and wounded him severely. Saul

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<v Speaker 3>groaned to his armor bearer, take your sword and kill

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<v Speaker 3>me before these pagan Philistines come to run me through

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<v Speaker 3>and taunt and torture me. But his armor bearer was

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<v Speaker 3>afraid would not do it, so Saul took his own

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<v Speaker 3>sword and fell on it. When his armor bearer realized

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<v Speaker 3>that Saul was dead, he fell on his own sword

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<v Speaker 3>and died beside the king. So Saul, his three sons,

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<v Speaker 3>his armor bearer, and his troops all together.

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<v Speaker 2>That same day, when.

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<v Speaker 3>and beyond the Jordans saw that the Israelite army had

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<v Speaker 1>and the Roman one is vast magnificent. It's magnificent.

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<v Speaker 3>people had like polished marble seats. But there's no there's

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<v Speaker 2>Right, so you just come in and do business.

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<v Speaker 3>in the in the toilets hysterical.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's there. But that's in the Roman area.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a big Amphitheater there, there's a bunch of shops there,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a main street, there's like hot tubs.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a huge, a huge colisseum. Did you already say that, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah yeah, Amphatheats Amphitheater is massive, Yeah, absolutely massive.

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<v Speaker 3>But then and that's the Roman part. You've got this

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<v Speaker 1>Of quite small too. Actually, right, but did you hike

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<v Speaker 1>and uh and you know, and and what you saw

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<v Speaker 1>then there's like like you know, foundations where the walls

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because this hill it's not in the hilly area.

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<v Speaker 3>It's kind of flat, just south of the Galilee.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, but this one hill just juts out of the

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<v Speaker 2>the Life Application Study.

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<v Speaker 1>But oh yeah, I know for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, if you don't have a Life Application Study Bible,

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<v Speaker 3>go online. We don't make any money for promoting these,

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<v Speaker 3>but grab one. You know a lot of people like

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<v Speaker 3>to get these chronological life application study Bibles. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>practical for us in the way that we're doing this thing,

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<v Speaker 3>but for you go get a traditional life Application study

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<v Speaker 3>Bible and oh yeah, there you go.

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<v Speaker 2>There's pictures, there's the walls.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so there's the foundation of the walls. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>that's quite a lot left isn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, huh, you know, it's really amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So, I mean I know that the people can't

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<v Speaker 3>There's there's some pictures in there in the Life Application

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<v Speaker 3>Study Bible all that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>It's pretty great.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Cool.

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<v Speaker 3>So anyways, here's Saul Man and he sees that this

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<v Speaker 2>His armor bearer to kill him, please kill me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And you know what I actually appreciated. Well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that's recorded. Who knows, maybe he did it

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<v Speaker 1>even more, you know, but I actually thought to myself

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<v Speaker 1>when Samuel said tomorrow you're going to die, I thought, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>like David is going to have to actually kill him,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And then come to find out it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>David that killed him. God was able to use the

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<v Speaker 1>Philistines to take out Saul, and thank goodness, right because.

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<v Speaker 3>Paul took himself up. What do you mean self committed suicide?

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<v Speaker 3>He fell on his own stuff?

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<v Speaker 2>I think the picture is Saul had ruined his own life.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh's god, right, you have nobody to blame but yourself soul.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, right, and and and so you know it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>such a sad tale, but it's important, right because just

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<v Speaker 1>like you said at yesterday's podcast, Saul was all about

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<v Speaker 1>himself from beginning to end. Everything was about him, right, right.

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<v Speaker 1>And when we live our lives for ourselves, it's a

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<v Speaker 1>to put ourselves and our mental health, you know, in priority.

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<v Speaker 1>But when we decide that we are more important than

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<v Speaker 1>God and than others, right, and we and we live

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<v Speaker 1>our lives just for ourselves. Listen, there will be moments

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<v Speaker 1>it's a wasted life. Yeah, and only when we decide to,

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's such a sad ending because he had all

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<v Speaker 3>the things on the surface when the when Samuel anointed Saul,

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<v Speaker 3>he's handsome, he commands a lot of respect, he's rich,

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<v Speaker 2>He's going to be great.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a great warrior, he's talented.

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<v Speaker 2>And instead he never lived up to his potential.

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<v Speaker 3>Never like like, I don't know that the Bible shows

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<v Speaker 3>And he just failed miserably. He never lived up to

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<v Speaker 1>A person who is a victim of believing his own press.

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<v Speaker 1>And so you know here he is early on, like

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<v Speaker 1>for himself. It never says so, but it could be

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<v Speaker 1>that maybe he started to think how great he is. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>the credit. And actually that's a pretty good lesson for pastors,

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<v Speaker 1>isn't It's a it's a good lesson for everybody, because

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, hey, I'm an elder, I'm a deacon, right, Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a I'm a Bible leader. You know, it's my

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<v Speaker 1>parking space, he move over, this is my spot on

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<v Speaker 1>the pew. Right. We've seen that as kids, and and

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<v Speaker 3>A number of years ago, I'm not going to say

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<v Speaker 3>his name, I'm not going to say the country, but

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<v Speaker 3>and he was struggling through because he's a dictator and

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<v Speaker 3>of leaning towards Christianity and all those kinds of things,

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<v Speaker 3>but struggling with how how do you lead? And he

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<v Speaker 3>made a statement, he was given a speech. He said,

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<v Speaker 3>in this world, there's good kings and bad kings, right,

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<v Speaker 3>That's that's what exists. Was he's a president, he's elected,

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<v Speaker 3>but there's good kings and bad kings. And he said

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<v Speaker 3>the difference between the good king and the bad king

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, a bad king believes he's the king, he

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<v Speaker 3>there for him. And a good king, a good leader,

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<v Speaker 3>realizes that he's there for the benefit of the people. Right,

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<v Speaker 3>that's the difference between the two. And it's like it's

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<v Speaker 3>like Saul lived his whole life as if it was

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<v Speaker 3>about him and the kingdom was there for him, right, right,

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<v Speaker 3>he wasted how much resources? How many lives of soldiers

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<v Speaker 3>just hunting one guy. David literally calls himself a flee.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a flea. Why are you hunting me? The resources

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I always say to the policeman who pulls

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm a flee.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a flee. Yeah, go do something more important to

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<v Speaker 3>But he wastes the resources of the kingdom on a

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<v Speaker 3>Whereas you see David the other way, leads as if

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<v Speaker 3>the people were most important and he was there to

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<v Speaker 3>serve the people. It's a huge difference between these two kings,

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<v Speaker 3>good kings and bad kings. And the differences are you

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<v Speaker 3>living for yourself and using the people around you or

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<v Speaker 3>are you living for other people?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>And if you live for others, by the way, and

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<v Speaker 3>this president went on and he said, the reality is

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<v Speaker 3>if a good leader would serve as people well and

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<v Speaker 3>cause the people to succeed and to prosper, the people

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<v Speaker 3>will love him and they will give him everything he wants. Right, So,

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<v Speaker 3>if you would leverage your influence for the betterment of

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<v Speaker 3>your team at work, or for your family or whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>your people will love you. They will learn to love you,

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<v Speaker 3>they'll learn to trust you and respect you, and you'll

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<v Speaker 3>get what you're trying to accomplish in life too.

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<v Speaker 2>It'll always happen.

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<v Speaker 3>But if you only serve yourself, you will always tear

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<v Speaker 3>down everything around you. The thing you're trying to accomplish,

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<v Speaker 3>you're single handily tearing down until finally he takes his

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<v Speaker 3>own life right. Everything everything, He just destroyed everything because

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<v Speaker 3>he was obsessed with himself and not the things of God,

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<v Speaker 3>not not other people just didn't serve well. So it's

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<v Speaker 3>every time I read this, I just I feel so bad.

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<v Speaker 3>The Note for Life Application Study Bible for his verse

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<v Speaker 3>four says saw face death the same way he faced life.

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<v Speaker 3>He took matters into his own hands without thinking of

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<v Speaker 3>God or asking for his guidance.

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<v Speaker 2>Isn't that amazing?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>What a statement that that could have gone on his tombstone.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I probably could have. Yeah, you're right about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Self face death the same way he faced life. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but my wife and I we do.

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<v Speaker 1>She didn't have a tombstone. He was his head was

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<v Speaker 1>cut off and that's.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, and then they buried him out under under a tree.

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<v Speaker 3>They could have carved this on the tree. My my

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<v Speaker 3>wife and I we do this thing. It's called letter boxing.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's it's a whole deal. You can go online

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<v Speaker 3>letterboxing dot org.

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<v Speaker 2>You look at it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's basically a treasure hunts all around the world, little

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<v Speaker 3>rubber stamps and blah blah blah, all this stuff, and

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<v Speaker 3>it's they're just fun to do. So we've done like

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<v Speaker 3>almost four hundred of them. And I know, yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 3>this whole weird thing we do. But sometimes and they

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<v Speaker 3>always send you to obscure places you'd never guess and

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<v Speaker 3>you've got to use compasses and figure out codes and

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<v Speaker 3>all this stuff. Sometimes other times they're just really really simple,

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<v Speaker 3>go to this place and here it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Right. So we wound up doing this series and it

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<v Speaker 2>was all B movies. All the stamps.

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<v Speaker 3>People hand carved these rubber stamps, right, and they were

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<v Speaker 3>all B movies like The Werewolf.

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<v Speaker 2>And the Mummy and whatever. Nice.

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<v Speaker 3>And they were hidden in cemeteries all around Oakland County

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<v Speaker 3>And so it's kind of a Halloween kind of an idea.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a fun one. It took us most of

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<v Speaker 2>the day to do these things.

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<v Speaker 1>Which is the county that next over there, Yeah, we live.

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<v Speaker 3>So one of them, it was the last one or

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<v Speaker 3>the next to last one, was hidden at a tombstone

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<v Speaker 3>that had the man's name and it said husband, father failure.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, and then it just had the dates of

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<v Speaker 2>his life.

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<v Speaker 1>Whoa somebody.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait a minute, somebody had it carved husband, father failure.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like what they're saying is he was a

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<v Speaker 1>great husband, a great father, and then also.

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<v Speaker 2>He failed us both. Yeah I'm hearing he failed his wife.

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<v Speaker 2>He failed that's what it has to mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because he can't mean the other, right, and so.

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<v Speaker 3>I came away from that going. It was the first

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<v Speaker 3>time I think I'd ever really thought what do I

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<v Speaker 3>want on my tombstone? Right when I read this phrase?

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<v Speaker 3>He faced death the same way he faced life. He

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<v Speaker 3>took matters in his own hands without any consideration of God.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think, Man, what I want on mine? You

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<v Speaker 3>know I don't want that I want Hey, he trusted God,

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<v Speaker 3>he served his family and his church.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I have a tendency.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a tendency to think that that's some unresolved

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<v Speaker 1>anger that will never go away.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they etched it in marble.

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<v Speaker 1>What I'm saying is like, you know, God calls us

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<v Speaker 1>to forgive, God calls us to let go of all

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<v Speaker 1>the bitterness. But if you etch it in marble, it

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<v Speaker 1>almost seems like even if you have finally one day

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<v Speaker 1>you have peace for your own sake, right, which is

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<v Speaker 1>which is a pretty big thing. Right, you're in a Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess they wouldn't visit.

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<v Speaker 2>What would have happened.

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<v Speaker 3>It would have turned around and in the last couple

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<v Speaker 3>of years of his life. Hey, I've been running the

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<v Speaker 3>wrong direction. You know, the people are more important. God's

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<v Speaker 3>more important. I'm going to stop serving myself. If he'd

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<v Speaker 3>repented and changed, I think I think his end would

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<v Speaker 3>have been different. You know, he'd already had lost the

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<v Speaker 3>kingdom all those kinds of things, but he could have

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<v Speaker 3>had a different ending. And then I have a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of respect, quite honestly, for the people from Jabesh Gilead.

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<v Speaker 3>Their warriors went out and said, hey, he's not the

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<v Speaker 3>best guy, but we're not gonna let the Philistines desecrate

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<v Speaker 3>him and his sons, right right. And so these guys

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<v Speaker 3>went out and and if you know that that beth

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<v Speaker 3>Shan plateau, that was a hard place to get to, right,

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<v Speaker 3>You were so exposed coming in on that spot. And uh,

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<v Speaker 3>they risk their lives to go show respect, to give

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<v Speaker 3>honor to whom honor is due. He's a king, give

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<v Speaker 3>honor to him. He represents our people, and the Philistines

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<v Speaker 3>are desecrating his body, and they went out and risked

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<v Speaker 3>their lives. So there's a huge contrast between Saul and

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<v Speaker 3>the lack of dignity and then the dignity and courage

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<v Speaker 3>of these these unnamed warriors from Javish Giliad to say, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to do the right thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's great, man. I love that part of the story.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, well, hey, here it is. We're we're able to

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<v Speaker 1>see their character was so strong we're able to get

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<v Speaker 1>a glimpse of it even though we don't know their names. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're they're worthy of being noted right in history

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<v Speaker 1>and because of their character, which is something to be

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<v Speaker 1>said by character. Okay, well, hey, that's our time, so

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully we will see you next time on the Bible.

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<v Speaker 2>Guys,