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listening to Warrior Saint.

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Welcome to Earth.

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know how to make a living on this.

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I mean I know of ways that other people have made livings on it and for us the work is
just gonna be getting a listener base, getting people who are regulars.

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then what to do with them.

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Yeah, but I think that, I mean, to advertisers you can really paint in broad strokes and I
think the people that are gonna listen to this are gonna have some fundamental things in

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common maybe when it comes to buying habits.

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uh So, um yeah.

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So you can, you can.

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You can kind of sell it like our audience is small but they're mighty.

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like, let's say you sell, I don't know, natural toothpaste or something.

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You know, that if you have the best shit out there and like we're actually passionate
about it, I think that that's actually something that we need to legitimately have in mind

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is that they're buying the trust that our listeners have with us.

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So if they trust you about whatever weird crap that we're talking about, they're also
going to trust that if you really like this toothpaste and it's the best one you've ever

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had and it's changed the way that you thought about brushing your teeth or something, then
they would pay more for that.

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I mean, yeah.

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It's just getting, know, it's getting the audience.

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You know, this is how this guy in Vancouver, Eckerd Tolle started, the power of now.

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Yeah, he just was some local guy in Vancouver.

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He had like a little book out there on the shelf.

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Somebody liked it.

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And next thing you know, the guy's like selling millions of books.

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And he didn't do anything special.

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just is an intelligent guy who just kind of recooked basic Buddhism.

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This book is just about Buddhism, but it doesn't say it's Buddhism.

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it's somebody, I read the book, so I'm just saying I read the book.

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So I can tell the guy who wrote the book studied Buddhism because it's basically just
recooked Buddhism.

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There's not one idea in there that's his, but he's smart and he kind of recooked it.

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When was this?

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I think it was about 10 years ago.

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wow, he's really a recent guy.

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His name sounds really old.

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It does and then he's got a kind of name that sounds old so he

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Okay.

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Interesting.

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Well, what's recooked Buddhism?

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Buddhism is a very simple philosophy, right?

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And I'm not like a very religious Buddhist, but it's a pretty straightforward philosophy
on life.

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And this guy just didn't use any of the key words that would tip you.

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For instance, in Buddhism, they talk about the cause of suffering and the remedy to
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You could explain all this in two or three minutes.

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And he didn't really get into that, but mostly the Buddha is saying you have to...

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You can't live in the past, you can't live in the future, you have to live in the present.

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So that's his book, The Power of Now.

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But it's recooked Buddhism.

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Well, he's saying he's living...

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The whole book is nothing but one thing, live in the moment.

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Don't relate to the past, don't relate to the future, just be present.

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But this is basically...

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And especially not in Buddhism, it's especially like Zen Buddhism.

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So I can tell reading the book that he studied it and he didn't refer to it.

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That that's what he was doing.

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It wasn't like his own idea.

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He wasn't sitting on a park bench.

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And this came to him.

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definitely read that somewhere.

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What did he call it?

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Now, just okay.

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Does he have a philosophy that he like cozies up to or?

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You he's claiming he was sitting on a bench and...

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Is he kind of one of these like career guys too?

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No, I think he's more of an academic.

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He's an academic who is an alcoholic.

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And he claims like he was like literally sitting on a park bench and this whole kind of
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But I actually don't, I think it would be coincidental.

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Sure, okay.

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I mean do you think that he gets it right though?

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I think he gets it philosophically right from the tone of his writing.

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don't actually think he experiences this himself.

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which is very common these days.

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There's a lot of what I would call derivative.

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Like Deepak Chopra or somebody like that.

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There's derivative teachers that I don't think they're actually particularly enlightened,
but they're very good about talking about it.

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Or Joseph Campbell, the mythologist.

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These are a lot of popular people these days, would call.

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Or, you know, these...

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self-help gurus like Wayne Dyer and I mean these kind of people who are I would say they
strike me because I've heard them speak their derivative speakers I I am NOT buying that

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they actually are any more liberated than anybody else but they're they talk about other
people you know they teach it but not necessarily from their own experience yeah

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I I guess I feel like there's a place for people who are translators, or a place for
people who can, I don't know, take it down a notch, but that's not, that sounds really

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negative, and that sounds like they're dumbing it down, which I don't really mean, but I
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Yeah, I mean, I guess.

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I don't know, applying it to whatever the current way of talking or the current way of
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But, I mean, guess what you're saying is there's something that gets lost in translation.

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There's something about the original text.

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I think that, and I was dealing with this this weekend, is that, and is this the show,
almost we do the show, I was experiencing this this weekend, a lot of people are kind of

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new to all of this, and they have some very strong experiences that they have no reference
to.

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It's happened very early to them and they have some very uplifting experience.

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And now they think they're very enlightened.

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But actually, um it takes time.

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It's really at the end of the day about personal and spiritual and character development.

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And so even if you have some kind of experience,

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It takes many years to kind of integrate it into your day to day life to kind of really
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So I think a lot of people have some kind of breakthrough experience and they think that's
what it is, but that's not exactly what it is.

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That's just a breakthrough experience.

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Okay, what kind of breakthrough experience?

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Mmm.

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you know the you know kind of the dna of human beings that you you're born with kind of
like this code inside you and there's a way to unlock that code so everybody's got it in

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their dna because as human beings we're spiritual beings so

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You're into this life so everyone, every human being has the capacity to experience
infinity.

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Like I was talking last week.

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there's a, it's like an imprint.

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It's like a code.

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You're born into this life as a human being.

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So it's kind of in your DNA, but you have to know the code to unlock it.

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And so there are

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There's an experience so people have these experiences of opening up to this on many
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connected.

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It's a feeling of being very connected and emerging.

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And so people all have that by nature.

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And so that's some of it, but what they don't know is that there's something beyond that.

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that is like taking that experience and bringing it back and integrating it into the human
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So there's many people who have kind of this breakthrough experience, but there's very few
people who really known how to integrate that into their life.

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That takes.

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That takes some skill.

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And, I mean, is the breakthrough experience part of being enlightened, or would you just
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I'd say it's both.

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It's part of the human condition that everyone is born with that in their DNA.

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in this life, every human being has the capacity to experience oneness with the universe.

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Every human, that's part of the human capacity because if you

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see things in terms of what we would call like reincarnation and karma that you're in this
lifetime as human being because of things that have happened before so you weren't

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necessarily always a human being but you brought to the state of being a human being and
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you have the opportunity for enlightenment which is

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we would say is not necessarily true of all the animals.

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Right, so animals aren't enlightened?

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What about dogs?

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Even dogs.

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I think they have other place, I don't, they don't have the awareness to actually
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But I'm not down on dogs.

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They have their own experience and it's all kind of connected anyhow.

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So that dog may be a human being someday.

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I always thought my dog had a guy inside of him growing up.

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So, yeah, so that's imprint.

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That's, yeah, so that's imprinted.

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As a human being, you have that capacity.

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But, but just having the experience of itself doesn't necessarily finish the story.

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A lot of the teaching I have is actually, most of the people are just interested in the
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I was myself.

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And so when I started on this path, really only had a real kind of desire, a hunger for
having this transcendental experience.

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I felt that it existed, but I didn't know what it was.

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But there was something inside of me that pulled me towards that.

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And that drove me getting into the lifestyle that I have because I thought that I would
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And actually I did.

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But ah then I realized that actually that was not it.

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Definitely.

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That's actually not even the goal.

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So I always thought that was the goal because of the stuff that I had read.

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So I didn't really see anything beyond

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striving for some transcendental defining experience.

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I thought that was the goal, but then I found out that that wasn't the goal.

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That was more like a marker.

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A marker of being on the right path.

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Yeah, took me a while to understand that, but all it is is a marker and actually has no
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So what I wanted actually, I found out had no inherent value.

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So that was quite uh surprising to me.

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Can you be on the path without having a breakthrough experience?

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I think you can.

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I couldn't because I was convinced I needed it so I needed that marker.

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So let's define what we're talking about.

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mean, what is a breakthrough experience?

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What are people telling you?

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Well, if anybody reads, doesn't matter what the path is, know, and there's many.

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You call it a religious or spiritual path.

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You know, there's, there's some kind of promise there that you're going to have an
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going to experience uh what created you.

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You're going to experience the totality of your being that may cross over time and space.

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This experience really is about crossing over time and space.

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Where we're prisoners of time and space.

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That's ultimately what we're prisoners of is time and space.

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Right, because you can't time travel.

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You can.

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But I'm this is what I'm saying is that, you can time travel.

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You can get out of time and space.

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That's the that's one of the markers of this experience, because this experience is
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But your life as a human being is not outside of time and space.

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So it's like having a near-death experience.

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Not a near death experience, a death experience.

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It's a mini death.

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It's a mini death.

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In the tradition that I am a member of the Sikh path, Guru Nanak was a great mystic who
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He's the first guru of the Sikh path.

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And Guru Nanak taught that the purpose, and this is how he would describe it, he said the
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and then help others swim across.

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That was his way of describing it.

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you know, you're in this life and that's one of the purposes of life is to get out of that
limitation and to experience that.

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But that's not the only thing you have to do.

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The bigger challenge I've learned is

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having that experience and integrate it into living on this planet, that's very hard to
do.

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It's actually not very hard to, having what I call like a Nirvana experience is actually
not that hard, that's actually pretty easy.

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think it's hard.

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People think it's hard, but it's kind of like they just haven't done what they need to do
to do it.

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mean, but every, but there's been many people lived on the planet who've had the
experience of Nirvana or whatever you call it.

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Illumination.

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That's a good point.

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Many people have had it and they all had two arms and two legs and they actually gave a
recipe and they just go you know you just do this and Sincerely, this is actually how you

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do that.

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So for instance in the seek path the the Guru's taught if you resonate your brain
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that you will experience God.

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And it's just a matter of disciplining yourself to do it.

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And then in one moment, you won't, without any expectation, you'll be there.

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That's what the teachings are.

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Very few people actually apply themselves to do it.

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They talk about it, but they actually don't do it.

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But the technology, I'd call it a technology.

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The technology is there.

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So this is like science.

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This is just a technology.

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It's not even a belief system.

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like, look, this is how you bake the cake.

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This is what you do.

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And this is it.

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And then you'll have this experience.

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That's actually pretty easy.

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I mean, it's shocking how easy it is.

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It's easy to experience.

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oh

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enlightenment.

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It's actually um easy to know God and you can do it in fairly short amount of time.

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What you're doing is, as we were talking about, is there's a technology for experiencing
your being outside of time and space and it's essentially the experience of light.

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You're light.

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Light is, I mean, even read the teachings of Einstein, know, mean, even scientifically,
it's like, it's beyond, light is beyond physical, a physical particle can move.

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It's kind of outside of time and space.

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So all the saints have described this experience of being submerged in light.

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So it's there.

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The technology is actually pretty straightforward and the people who have experienced it
have left behind kind of the uh code.

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But what's much harder is having that experience and knowing what to do with it.

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So I feel like it's personally my mission.

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So how do you apply it to your daily life?

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It's very difficult because this experience is so etheric in nature and the life here is
so physical in nature.

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And so in this path, I think the way that you apply it is take that experience and you
have to live your life with a certain uh consciousness, certain

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awareness, certain values.

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you know, was teaching, I was telling you, I was out of town teaching this weekend, and
this was actually a big theme of whenever I was teaching, whatever I was teaching, getting

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people to understand that it's not what you experience, it's how you conduct yourself.

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This is, people have a hard time wrapping their head around that, but...

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I'm almost devaluing their experience of infinity because I really don't think in and of
itself it's very important.

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Okay.

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Yes.

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how you integrate that into the way you, but you're a human being, you're here.

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So you have to figure out a way to make it relevant.

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If you just have an experience and you have to like, know, so I make my living being a
lawyer.

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If I can't kind of integrate that in the way I interact with people, what's purpose?

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So what if I had a big experience?

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What's for?

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I mean, there's no, so a person who's very spiritually oriented is very,

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guided by purpose and reason.

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You have to have purpose for doing something otherwise you have no reason for living.

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So even if you have an experience of enlightenment there has to be some purpose to it.

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You have to come back with something.

274
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Yeah, you have to come back with something.

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Otherwise there's no reason to be here.

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And you have to come back with something big because there's a lot of suffering here.

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People are very lost.

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And it's almost like you you found the other shore.

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Everybody else is lost and you're to come back and share you know, there's a way through
all this mess.

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Are we just talking about, what are we talking about?

281
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Are we talking about dreams?

282
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Are we talking about conscious moments?

283
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I think right now what we're talking about is how a spiritually oriented person handles
their life.

284
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Okay.

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your day to day life, how everything connects.

286
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See, actually, being around many, people who aspire to have a

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this, you know, when we started talking about this out of body experience at a time of
this, actually that's, that's very selfish.

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It's, it's, it's the same reason, let's say for instance, that somebody would, you know,
go out Friday night, pick somebody up in a bar and get laid.

289
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And even having sex with this stranger still may feel a moment of great expansion and
connection even with this total stranger.

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That's what they want to feel even if it's for some fleeting moment.

291
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But they want to have some moment of timelessness and maybe they're thinking they'll have
it for three or four seconds if they get somebody in a bar and bring them home.

292
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But in a way it's really no different than a lot of people meditating because they're
still kind of grabbing for some kind of experience that's going to make them feel better

293
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even if it's for a moment.

294
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So you put meditating and picking up chicks on the same level?

295
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All right.

296
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Yeah, I see what you're

297
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I'm not talking, I know I obviously I meditating in the long run is much better strategy
because it can lead to healthier things.

298
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But I'm more talking about what motivates people to do what they do.

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A lot of people, let's say for instance, I've been teaching yoga and meditation for many
years so I see the people come into class.

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Most of the people come to class are in the class because they're lonely.

301
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Sure.

302
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Okay, so again, it's the same reason people would go to a bar.

303
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But I think it's a more productive and healthier strategy.

304
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And there's a lot of benefits that come out of it that I don't think are going to come out
going to a bar.

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But the motivation is the same as that I'm feeling empty and I want to feel full.

306
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And there's something that's telling me that if I do this, it's one of the problems that
what happens, like I think it's how people become alcoholics really, that, um sex addicts

307
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or anything, is that they're young, they live a pretty un...

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exciting life and they'll have some experience.

309
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They, you know, they got drunk for the first time in their life.

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They got laid for the first time in their life.

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And so it's a lot, it's kind of a rush.

312
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So they don't have like anything else.

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They don't have like a fallback position.

314
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So they keep going to the well to try to recreate that rush.

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But

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you can't recreate, the first rush is the big rush and you can't exactly recreate it.

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So you have to start drinking more and more.

318
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You get involved with people, you start dropping them for other people.

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You start getting into very self-destructive behavior because you need more and more to
somehow recreate that first rush, but you never quite can do that.

320
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So this is really nothing you get into very compulsive and addictive behavior.

321
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So I don't think that's as good strategy as it is to consciously work on yourself with
some self-discipline that will give you an expansive experience that will have healthy uh

322
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results, put you around healthier people.

323
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Right.

324
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But the initial motivation is pretty simple.

325
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You're feeling empty, you're feeling disconnected, and you want to feel whole and
connected.

326
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So to this extent, I have lot of compassion for people who go to bars, because it's the
same reason people go to yoga class.

327
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Is it all about loneliness though?

328
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mean, can you not feel lonely and still have a desire to connect with people?

329
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Yeah, that's what loneliness is.

330
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mean, to me, they're interchangeable.

331
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mean, loneliness, to whatever extent somebody's experiencing it, consciously or
unconsciously, is feeling disconnected from your own self and from others.

332
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It's very painful, and most people aren't even conscious of it.

333
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I think...

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One difference for instance, somebody going to yoga class for instance, is they may
actually have some acknowledgement or self-consciousness of it and are making a specific

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decision to address it rather than to address it unconsciously with self-destructive
behavior.

336
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But um I would say that this is the root cause of oh

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just about all suffering, at least emotionally, psychologically, is people do not feel
connected to themselves or to anybody else and they're desperately trying to do that,

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whether it's trying to find somebody to be a couple with or whatever.

339
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So people are doing that.

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They're making many choices that would seem to point them in the direction of connection.

341
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But

342
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either their strategies are very bad or they don't keep with good strategies and so it
doesn't work out.

343
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Right.

344
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I mean, I guess I do agree with you because you have no other consciousness but your own.

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know, I mean, aside from these transcendent experiences, but I mean, even then, I don't
know if you, just speaking from experience, I don't know if I've ever, you know, felt like

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I've lost myself.

347
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Like, you know, even

348
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When tripping, I've known, you know, I still hear my own voice.

349
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I'm still in my own head and I kind of know that.

350
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um So, I do agree with you.

351
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mean, people, so people never have the experience of another person.

352
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They'll never know how they're actually perceived.

353
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They'll never know what their most beloved partner actually feels like.

354
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Well, it's a very base cause of pain.

355
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You know, I just came here, I on the subway, and I just, I always look at this, I'm on the
subway, and it's packed with all these people, and I just kinda look around and you see

356
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that, how, you can see who's really disconnected.

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and

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You could see what a difficult existence that is for most people.

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people get, but most people in their lifetime get a flash.

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They get a moment.

361
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Maybe they have a child, maybe they fall in love, maybe, you know, whatever.

362
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Maybe it's a drug.

363
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They get a moment.

364
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But that's also painful because it's very hard to replicate, it's hard to sustain.

365
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Right.

366
00:30:08,830 --> 00:30:19,159
And again, really you think in the evolution of the planet and people, you really go back
as what is the cause of all wars?

367
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What's the cause of uh just anti-social behavior?

368
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Any of it.

369
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It's that you don't see yourself in the other person.

370
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You actually can see that at the end of the day you are the same person.

371
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that manifests itself separately, we're all from, different religions say it differently,
but we're all from the same father, we're all from the same source.

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And to the extent that there's a disconnection there, there's dysfunctional behavior.

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People don't see strangers as being their brothers, especially if they're like another
color.

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another really, you know, they start to find they start defining ways that, you know, it's
us and them.

375
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Right.

376
00:31:14,093 --> 00:31:18,045
But this very undeveloped thinking, it's never us and them.

377
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It's always about us.

378
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It's very, it's very backward thinking.

379
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It's not expansive at all.

380
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If you cannot see yourself in another person, then you can't see yourself at all.

381
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And so this is cause of great alienation.

382
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I alienation from oneself and from others, which is really the same thing, is the root of
almost, if not all suffering.

383
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Because the natural tendency, the natural state of being of an enlightened person is to be
connected and feel full.

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within oneself and connecting with others.

385
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To whatever extent a person doesn't have that experience, a person needs to continue in
this life and future lives until that state is achieved.

386
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That's the purpose of spiritual development.

387
00:32:22,602 --> 00:32:25,349
Okay, so you take your spirit with you.

388
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In a sense you could take anything anywhere.

389
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mean if you want to put in those words taking it, but you can't kill your spirit.

390
00:32:36,904 --> 00:32:38,375
It's the only thing you can kill.

391
00:32:38,375 --> 00:32:45,690
You kill everything else but you can't kill your spirit because it has no physical
properties.

392
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Everything else this gets back to what we saying in the beginning.

393
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Everything else is in time and space.

394
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Spirit is not in time and space.

395
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That's how you break out of time and space by relating to your spirit.

396
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Because time and space has no constriction on spirit.

397
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And that's part...

398
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That's a very important part of being a human being is that you actually do have a spirit.

399
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And until you...

400
00:33:16,982 --> 00:33:22,776
Until you are best friends with this spirit, you are going to be a prisoner of time and
space.

401
00:33:24,696 --> 00:33:25,716
Well, mind-blowing.

402
00:33:25,716 --> 00:33:34,653
mean, to meet a lot of people who don't believe in spirit or don't believe they have a
soul.

403
00:33:37,422 --> 00:33:48,483
Actually, I think at the end of the day, everybody believes in it to a certain extent,
even if they deny it and say they're an atheist, for instance.

404
00:33:48,483 --> 00:33:53,377
no matter what they say, their actions kind of behoove that.

405
00:33:53,646 --> 00:34:00,386
Yeah, I mean think for me the most PC way of putting it is intuition.

406
00:34:00,386 --> 00:34:04,454
I think that's something that everybody kind of relies on.

407
00:34:04,454 --> 00:34:14,281
Even the most pragmatic atheist, you know, will still say like, have a feeling about this
or, you know, and that's just their intuition.

408
00:34:14,281 --> 00:34:15,621
But what is that?

409
00:34:16,492 --> 00:34:23,487
Yeah, again, when I was younger, that kind of got my attention who would believe in this
and not.

410
00:34:23,487 --> 00:34:35,316
But again, later in life, I'm actually more intrigued by who would actually be
sufficiently intrigued by it to devote their attention to it, to developing it.

411
00:34:35,316 --> 00:34:37,517
That's more interesting to me.

412
00:34:37,517 --> 00:34:42,421
Because as you said, people call it different things.

413
00:34:42,421 --> 00:34:43,801
everybody...

414
00:34:44,714 --> 00:34:51,299
I think everybody deep down thinks there's something other than just your body.

415
00:34:51,299 --> 00:34:55,182
Even if they're trying to prove to you they think differently.

416
00:34:56,374 --> 00:35:05,290
On some operational level, you can see that there's some kind of association that uh I'm
not just my body.

417
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:05,962
Right.

418
00:35:05,962 --> 00:35:11,165
Even if people are going, well, my thoughts, well, that's still kind of vibrational.

419
00:35:11,245 --> 00:35:26,062
So, but I think as I'm getting older, what's more interesting to me is who among us is
actually willing to devote their attention to developing this, this uh part of themselves.

420
00:35:26,062 --> 00:35:28,414
this this this

421
00:35:28,546 --> 00:35:31,612
Awareness, which is not a lot of people

422
00:35:33,004 --> 00:35:34,946
Would you consider yourself one of those people?

423
00:35:34,946 --> 00:35:36,186
Definitely.

424
00:35:36,687 --> 00:35:37,487
Definitely.

425
00:35:37,487 --> 00:35:38,378
Definitely I would.

426
00:35:38,378 --> 00:35:45,291
And I always can see people who are that way because I know what it looks like.

427
00:35:45,552 --> 00:35:47,723
And it's just the way that people are.

428
00:35:47,723 --> 00:35:49,013
You can feel it.

429
00:35:50,014 --> 00:35:53,115
It's kind of like they're tapped into something.

430
00:35:53,836 --> 00:35:58,198
can't put your finger on it, but it's just the way they present themselves.

431
00:35:59,682 --> 00:36:02,630
Well, what do you think those people are going for?

432
00:36:03,122 --> 00:36:04,758
Are they just looking for fullness?

433
00:36:04,758 --> 00:36:06,342
uh

434
00:36:08,938 --> 00:36:23,657
you know I'm not in their head but uh I would just say that sometimes it's not even like a
conscious decision I think it's just actually to me you know it's funny because as I'm

435
00:36:23,657 --> 00:36:34,393
getting older I see this in different terms because when I was younger I saw these in this
very ethereal terms now as I'm older I see it a more pragmatic terms actually I think it's

436
00:36:34,393 --> 00:36:35,934
about self-respect

437
00:36:37,262 --> 00:36:38,062
That's all I think.

438
00:36:38,062 --> 00:36:39,762
I don't think it's anything more than that actually.

439
00:36:39,762 --> 00:36:41,202
I think it's that's all it is.

440
00:36:41,202 --> 00:36:42,542
It's about self-respect.

441
00:36:42,542 --> 00:36:49,522
It's a person's commitment to respecting themselves for what they are.

442
00:36:49,522 --> 00:37:01,242
And so that has very profound consequences that if you really kind of take that all the
way out, then you're going to respect every aspect of your person.

443
00:37:01,838 --> 00:37:05,578
And ultimately you have to respect your own infinity.

444
00:37:05,718 --> 00:37:15,398
You have to respect the essence of yourself which people are not really supported in doing
in this world right at this particular point.

445
00:37:15,438 --> 00:37:20,078
Very few people are actually supported in loving their essence.

446
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or even recognizing that it exists, but that at the end of the day, that's who they are
and that's what will outlive their physical bodies.

447
00:37:30,178 --> 00:37:35,282
So it's very unhealthy not to have a relationship with that, awareness of that.

448
00:37:35,282 --> 00:37:39,965
So at the end of the day, I actually see it in terms of self-respect.

449
00:37:40,886 --> 00:37:41,807
Wow.

450
00:37:41,848 --> 00:37:48,172
I mean, I really like that because I've always, you have to take care of yourself if you
are going to take care of anyone else.

451
00:37:48,172 --> 00:37:50,990
mean, there are lots of adages about that.

452
00:37:50,990 --> 00:37:58,730
Well, and of course, if you read, you know, all the masters over the years, you said
something and people use this all the time.

453
00:37:58,730 --> 00:38:02,710
And I don't think they really think about the consequences of that statement.

454
00:38:02,710 --> 00:38:14,810
And I did for me, a very young age and you were just saying about, um, uh, you use the
word yourself, but actually to me, that's not two words.

455
00:38:14,810 --> 00:38:15,790
That's, that's not one word.

456
00:38:15,790 --> 00:38:17,250
That's two word.

457
00:38:17,250 --> 00:38:18,210
Your.

458
00:38:18,734 --> 00:38:19,854
self.

459
00:38:19,854 --> 00:38:26,034
And so in other words, people kind of throw that around, but I actually think that's very
deep.

460
00:38:26,034 --> 00:38:28,794
You know, that you actually have a self.

461
00:38:28,794 --> 00:38:33,414
You have a living thing that doesn't have a name.

462
00:38:34,813 --> 00:38:40,414
There is this something, there is something that is you, but that doesn't have a place.

463
00:38:40,414 --> 00:38:41,994
It doesn't have a name.

464
00:38:41,994 --> 00:38:45,812
You've given all of this a name, but actually it doesn't have a name.

465
00:38:45,812 --> 00:38:46,530
Right.

466
00:38:46,530 --> 00:38:51,667
You are actually, people don't understand that is that nobody really has a name.

467
00:38:52,095 --> 00:38:52,750
Yeah.

468
00:38:52,750 --> 00:39:00,495
People gave you, people labeled you something and they dressed you up and they trained you
to be a certain way.

469
00:39:00,495 --> 00:39:12,692
But underneath all that is actually this very vibrant being that doesn't have a name,
doesn't have a time or place, just kind of exists and is a very, very beautiful and pure

470
00:39:12,692 --> 00:39:13,642
nature.

471
00:39:13,642 --> 00:39:16,284
And people are very alienated from this.

472
00:39:16,284 --> 00:39:19,706
They're buried under all these adjectives.

473
00:39:20,534 --> 00:39:21,250
Yeah.

474
00:39:21,250 --> 00:39:31,117
about every most people I know are nothing but it just a big barrel of adjectives There's
no real person they they define who they are

475
00:39:31,662 --> 00:39:32,982
by adjectives.

476
00:39:32,982 --> 00:39:36,462
They define themselves in comparison to everything else.

477
00:39:36,462 --> 00:39:44,282
Where they are, what their name is, what their career is, who they're living with, what
they like, what they don't like, what their opinions are, what they...

478
00:39:44,282 --> 00:39:53,542
You can go down the whole list, but very few people actually have an experience of just
what they are, this self that you're talking about.

479
00:39:53,562 --> 00:39:56,300
And again, this is one of the...

480
00:39:56,300 --> 00:40:01,777
major purposes of spiritual development is that you actually can feel yourself.

481
00:40:02,039 --> 00:40:07,116
That part of you that doesn't never is born never will die doesn't have a name.

482
00:40:07,116 --> 00:40:09,509
That's actually who you are.

483
00:40:09,580 --> 00:40:12,063
And that's also universal.

484
00:40:12,088 --> 00:40:12,999
course.

485
00:40:13,861 --> 00:40:16,024
And it's the same thing that's living in everybody.

486
00:40:16,024 --> 00:40:25,780
So if you have this respect for that thing that's living inside of you, naturally you
respect the same thing that's within your fellow man.

487
00:40:25,780 --> 00:40:36,148
Okay, we have to wrap it up soon, unfortunately, but do you have anything like a short
five minute spiel, anything that anybody could do at home?

488
00:40:37,446 --> 00:40:51,771
Well, you know, I think that a very good place for people to start and we do this When
somebody let's say starts taking yoga for instance There's other good paths to but yoga

489
00:40:51,771 --> 00:41:00,850
for instance is that You have to start like training yourself to uh Slow down and listen

490
00:41:02,612 --> 00:41:08,367
and because often we're so distracted that we don't actually even listen.

491
00:41:09,088 --> 00:41:11,630
So there's something I really like.

492
00:41:11,630 --> 00:41:24,041
If you have like a watch at home, I really like, know, and you could build up to it if you
don't have it now, but I would call this like the one minute breath.

493
00:41:25,389 --> 00:41:26,310
Okay.

494
00:41:26,771 --> 00:41:31,043
So you want to start very slowly.

495
00:41:31,982 --> 00:41:33,229
Do you need a minute?

496
00:41:33,297 --> 00:41:34,623
Minute on the clock?

497
00:41:35,192 --> 00:41:44,805
Well, even I tell you, you know what even people could do with, know, mean, I mean, would
be great actually if you can, ideally you'd actually be inhaling for a minute, holding for

498
00:41:44,805 --> 00:41:53,037
a minute and exhaling for a minute.

499
00:41:53,037 --> 00:42:02,930
rather than do the breathing or pranayama Olympics, I think that would be very helpful for
the, because you got to start somewhere for the average person.

500
00:42:03,358 --> 00:42:19,453
How about, you know, just slowly inhaling for 15 seconds, holding for 15 seconds, slowly
exhaling for 15 seconds, and then keeping the breath out for 15 seconds.

501
00:42:23,410 --> 00:42:24,993
I was trying it.

502
00:42:25,016 --> 00:42:26,740
I died.

503
00:42:27,124 --> 00:42:27,790
Cool.

504
00:42:27,790 --> 00:42:31,990
Yeah, 15, 15 in, 15 hold.

505
00:42:31,990 --> 00:42:33,530
And we don't have to do it this second.

506
00:42:33,530 --> 00:42:36,030
mean, but people can time themselves at home.

507
00:42:36,030 --> 00:42:38,550
15 in, but it's very slow.

508
00:42:38,550 --> 00:42:41,590
15 in, hold 15.

509
00:42:42,190 --> 00:42:46,570
then use the diaphragm, enable point.

510
00:42:46,570 --> 00:42:50,670
Just control the breath from down there, not from up there.

511
00:42:51,070 --> 00:42:52,711
Through the nose, always through the nose.

512
00:42:52,711 --> 00:42:53,833
mouth closed.

513
00:42:53,833 --> 00:42:54,520
Right.

514
00:42:54,520 --> 00:43:04,677
very slowly slowly for 15 seconds then then hold that for 15 and then slowly tightening
your

515
00:43:05,408 --> 00:43:09,201
your diaphragm, navel points, so it's all out.

516
00:43:09,201 --> 00:43:12,703
And then the challenge is keeping it out for 15 seconds.

517
00:43:12,703 --> 00:43:17,182
Because there's that thought, the body naturally reacts, I'm going to die.

518
00:43:17,182 --> 00:43:18,047
I have no air.

519
00:43:18,047 --> 00:43:21,849
So, you know, there's even an emotional reaction to this.

520
00:43:21,849 --> 00:43:23,090
Like, oh, what am I going to do?

521
00:43:23,090 --> 00:43:24,090
I'm going to die.

522
00:43:24,111 --> 00:43:34,398
But if you do that, this one minute breath, 15, 15, 15 and 15, I ah would say this, this
is a very good test because

523
00:43:34,848 --> 00:43:39,425
I'd really love for you to actually try this when something is upsetting you.

524
00:43:40,188 --> 00:43:43,613
Because I challenge you to still be upset in three minutes.

525
00:43:43,776 --> 00:43:45,591
It's very hard.

526
00:43:45,594 --> 00:43:46,958
Yeah, I'm sure.

527
00:43:46,958 --> 00:43:53,240
Because, and you it's interesting because like if you're running, if you observe, I love
observing people.

528
00:43:53,240 --> 00:43:55,861
I mean it's like the best show, you don't have to go to the movies.

529
00:43:55,861 --> 00:43:58,882
There's a show going on all the time.

530
00:43:59,302 --> 00:44:05,804
But you can see that if you pay attention that people are very hyper, breathe very
quickly.

531
00:44:06,624 --> 00:44:12,586
And people who are very um even-killed.

532
00:44:13,814 --> 00:44:17,415
You can see they actually generally breathe slower.

533
00:44:17,655 --> 00:44:26,408
And so you can actually, it's very much in your control what your uh mental and emotional
state is.

534
00:44:26,408 --> 00:44:35,600
So everybody's thinking they need to calm down, maybe take a pill, but maybe all you gotta
do is just train yourself to breathe a little different.

535
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:42,822
You actually have, nobody's ever even told you that your breath is controlled to

536
00:44:43,955 --> 00:44:45,536
the pattern of your mind.

537
00:44:45,536 --> 00:44:47,678
Nobody's actually shared that.

538
00:44:47,678 --> 00:44:51,342
example, what I'm saying is that this stuff is out there.

539
00:44:51,342 --> 00:44:55,055
Just that people, because they don't know about it, doesn't mean it's not out there.

540
00:44:55,055 --> 00:44:57,638
This stuff has been talked about for thousands of years.

541
00:44:57,638 --> 00:45:00,200
It's readily available information.

542
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,054
It's not like hidden somewhere.

543
00:45:02,054 --> 00:45:03,733
It's common sense.

544
00:45:05,084 --> 00:45:10,408
I mean there are only so many inputs into our bodies.

545
00:45:10,408 --> 00:45:15,072
mean breathing is breathing and eating and drinking.

546
00:45:16,298 --> 00:45:20,669
It's a very amazing organism because everything is kind of connected to everything else.

547
00:45:20,669 --> 00:45:26,321
there's this very, there's all these like trigger points and like it's just the opposite.

548
00:45:26,321 --> 00:45:30,363
Like we use something called breath of fire, which is very rapid breathing.

549
00:45:30,363 --> 00:45:39,426
So in comparison, if you're feeling like you need energy, yeah, I'm breathing like 10
times a second.

550
00:45:40,046 --> 00:45:43,706
And this actually can give me energy when I don't have any.

551
00:45:44,006 --> 00:45:48,506
Or if I'm feeling very panicky.

552
00:45:49,926 --> 00:45:54,706
Like sometimes, like I'll be in the street and somebody's actually in a shocking
situation.

553
00:45:54,706 --> 00:45:56,546
I'll see somebody who's in shock.

554
00:45:56,546 --> 00:45:58,226
Something's happened.

555
00:45:58,386 --> 00:46:01,146
you can see that they start panicking.

556
00:46:01,146 --> 00:46:03,946
I say, know, breathe long indeed, just long indeed.

557
00:46:03,946 --> 00:46:05,606
And then kind of get it back together.

558
00:46:05,606 --> 00:46:07,406
Just getting that together.

559
00:46:07,777 --> 00:46:08,556
Wow.

560
00:46:08,556 --> 00:46:16,975
Yeah, so we call that in yoga verbiage, that would be Pranayama.

561
00:46:16,975 --> 00:46:19,317
Prana is energy.

562
00:46:20,138 --> 00:46:22,731
And yama is kind of mastery over that.

563
00:46:22,731 --> 00:46:27,306
So, that's what you do to control the prana.

564
00:46:27,306 --> 00:46:31,022
Pranayama is what you do to control the life force.

565
00:46:31,022 --> 00:46:34,183
Okay, so that's anything that you do to keep your shit together.

566
00:46:34,274 --> 00:46:38,697
Well in this case Pranayama specifically has to do with the breath control.

567
00:46:39,098 --> 00:46:53,308
But it's interesting because prana is your life force and pranayama is a technique to get
control over your life force and all of pranayama has to do with breathing, breath

568
00:46:53,308 --> 00:46:53,969
control.

569
00:46:53,969 --> 00:47:00,393
So breath control is actually the key to control your prana, your life force.

570
00:47:00,782 --> 00:47:02,254
So this is

571
00:47:02,254 --> 00:47:12,714
mean we've been talking in this conversation, these are tools of the trade kind of they've
been around for thousands of years, it's no big mystery and as you said actually a lot of

572
00:47:12,714 --> 00:47:15,074
this stuff is also common sense.

573
00:47:15,174 --> 00:47:23,598
Right now the thing I'd really like to plug is that people's opportunity to connect with
me personally to talk about anything they want to talk about.

574
00:47:23,598 --> 00:47:24,324
Cool.

575
00:47:24,324 --> 00:47:25,003
You know what?

576
00:47:25,003 --> 00:47:26,210
How are they gonna do that?

577
00:47:26,210 --> 00:47:35,295
They are going to do that by uh emailing me at harinam56 at gmail.com.

578
00:47:35,455 --> 00:47:42,518
H-A-R-I-N-A-M harinam56 at gmail.com.

579
00:47:42,739 --> 00:47:48,582
you could also visit my website, www.yogaheaven.com.

580
00:47:49,396 --> 00:47:50,054
Awesome.

581
00:47:50,054 --> 00:47:58,897
So they can do that and then you know people call me from all over the world to talk to me
about anything And these days you do that on Skype.

582
00:47:58,897 --> 00:48:04,979
So if you write me And you want to uh talk about something going on in your life.

583
00:48:04,979 --> 00:48:09,600
That's what I do and These days I do that over Skype.

584
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:15,302
So I people from cool then English do that in Spanish Yeah

585
00:48:15,559 --> 00:48:17,103
Oh, awesome.

586
00:48:17,810 --> 00:48:18,402
Wow.

587
00:48:18,402 --> 00:48:28,718
So I travel a lot and teach around the world too, but at the end of the day I think for
most people that is how I can be of greatest service personally.

588
00:48:29,102 --> 00:48:32,814
You know, people, and I do a lot of relationship counseling in particular.

589
00:48:32,814 --> 00:48:35,574
sure, just working out those issues.

590
00:48:35,574 --> 00:48:39,934
I mean, for most people, it just talking about it?

591
00:48:39,934 --> 00:48:42,594
Is it just giving words to these things?

592
00:48:42,594 --> 00:48:44,314
How important is that?

593
00:48:44,780 --> 00:48:45,410
Hmm.

594
00:48:45,410 --> 00:48:45,971
Wow.

595
00:48:45,971 --> 00:48:51,773
You know, nobody has ever actually asked me that's kind of interesting is people putting
words to it.

596
00:48:51,773 --> 00:49:03,428
I think that uh obviously since I'm talking to people the the word is words are a big
thing, but I also is word you were using a lot.

597
00:49:03,428 --> 00:49:13,622
I I bank a lot on my intuition and I think people also are not clear what even their
intuition is and

598
00:49:13,896 --> 00:49:15,395
Spidey sense.

599
00:49:15,395 --> 00:49:17,201
It's your Spidey sense.

600
00:49:17,790 --> 00:49:36,597
Yeah, but for most people, I find that most people actually, it's kind of like where you
dig your whole mining, that I think sometimes people think their emotional feelings are

601
00:49:36,597 --> 00:49:42,242
their intuition, but actually, if you have any feeling about anything, it's definitely not
your intuition.

602
00:49:42,242 --> 00:49:44,454
Does any emotion...

603
00:49:45,234 --> 00:49:47,786
Your intuition doesn't feel like anything.

604
00:49:47,786 --> 00:49:49,921
Right, your intuition just feels like your intuition.

605
00:49:49,921 --> 00:49:51,413
It's just a different...

606
00:49:52,106 --> 00:49:53,378
It's much louder.

607
00:49:53,910 --> 00:50:00,193
Well, you know what the intuition is and I think that, I mean, you can look at this in two
different ways.

608
00:50:00,193 --> 00:50:05,334
Intuition, some people say you can develop your intuition.

609
00:50:05,675 --> 00:50:15,438
But I would actually say that everybody's born with intuition, but it is totally buried.

610
00:50:15,754 --> 00:50:23,360
And so it's not a matter of developing it as much as it is getting those things that are
in the way out of the way.

611
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:23,886
Right.

612
00:50:23,886 --> 00:50:28,826
because the intuition, it's not like you develop it, it's already, you're born with it.

613
00:50:29,066 --> 00:50:32,006
And basically you're not accessing it.

614
00:50:32,626 --> 00:50:39,186
Or worse, you think that something is your intuition and actually it's not your intuition.

615
00:50:39,646 --> 00:50:53,850
Like, for instance, I think most people who are very spiritually developed would tell you
that basing your decisions on your life, on your emotional feelings is a horrible thing.

616
00:50:53,850 --> 00:50:54,924
mistake.

617
00:50:55,072 --> 00:50:56,007
Okay.

618
00:50:56,066 --> 00:51:01,468
But most highly developed people would say that it's a good idea to trust your intuition.

619
00:51:01,849 --> 00:51:08,572
But that being said, you better well know the difference between what your feelings are
and what your intuition are.

620
00:51:08,572 --> 00:51:16,935
I find that a lot of people kind of glom them somehow together because there's a lack of
sophistication in their consciousness.

621
00:51:17,256 --> 00:51:23,059
It's the same way like people glom together loving and being in love, which have very
little to do with each other.

622
00:51:23,059 --> 00:51:25,259
But they assume they're the same thing.

623
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:37,036
people kind of glom together intuition with emotional feeling and they can't they're not
sophisticated enough to kind of kind of separate them out so they're okay this is my

624
00:51:37,036 --> 00:51:47,732
feelings is my intuition just like they can't separate out you know there's real love here
and there's being in love which have nothing to very very little to do with each other so

625
00:51:47,732 --> 00:51:49,908
it's a sophistication in consciousness

626
00:51:49,908 --> 00:51:53,438
Okay, the love and being in love one, I haven't...

627
00:51:53,438 --> 00:51:55,611
I can't separate the two.

628
00:51:55,611 --> 00:51:56,663
Most people can't.

629
00:51:56,663 --> 00:51:58,115
I mean, it's just...

630
00:51:58,830 --> 00:52:10,334
But it's actually, if you go down the list of the things that are the most destructive to
people's lives, that would be very, very high in the list.

631
00:52:10,334 --> 00:52:13,395
That would be the top two or three in list.

632
00:52:13,395 --> 00:52:19,177
Inability to differentiate love and being in love is extremely dangerous.

633
00:52:19,277 --> 00:52:24,119
causes, I mean, people actually can destroy their lives.

634
00:52:24,119 --> 00:52:28,540
uh Their inability to differentiate between the two

635
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:33,142
has caused millions to destroy their lives and the lives of others.

636
00:52:33,364 --> 00:52:35,285
It's actually very dangerous.

637
00:52:35,605 --> 00:52:37,127
And so it's same thing.

638
00:52:37,127 --> 00:52:42,080
People make very important decisions in life and they're going, well, I'm following my
intuition.

639
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:49,766
When in fact, they're not following their intuition, they're following their emotions of
the neurosis because they really don't know what intuition is.

640
00:52:49,766 --> 00:52:52,908
Just like they make...

641
00:52:52,908 --> 00:53:04,732
decisions based hard decisions based on what they think is love when it's actually based
on being in love which is a far different thing and Causes a lot of problems when people

642
00:53:04,732 --> 00:53:07,843
make their decisions in life based on being in love.

643
00:53:07,843 --> 00:53:17,526
They're playing a very dangerous game mmm, it just is you know, so you know, it just takes
they said but when you devote your life to

644
00:53:19,050 --> 00:53:26,332
spiritual development and character development, these kind of things actually sort
themselves out up the road.

645
00:53:26,332 --> 00:53:32,758
It gets clearer what all these things are and then when you make decisions, it's much more
conscious.

646
00:53:32,842 --> 00:53:35,800
Alright, so there's hope for us yet.

647
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:37,207
They even made this hope for me.

648
00:53:37,207 --> 00:53:39,884
I'm 60, there's still hope for me.

649
00:53:39,884 --> 00:53:40,726
you

650
00:53:45,774 --> 00:53:47,014
you

651
00:54:05,762 --> 00:54:09,064
You heard the man, Hari Nam wants to hear from you.

652
00:54:09,064 --> 00:54:13,157
Email him at harinam56 at gmail.com.

653
00:54:13,157 --> 00:54:22,094
That's H-A-R-I-N-A-M 56 at gmail.com and find him at yogaheaven.com.

654
00:54:22,094 --> 00:54:23,014
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655
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