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know how to make a living on this.
I mean I know of ways that other people have made livings on it and for us the work is just gonna be getting a listener base, getting people who are regulars.
oh
then what to do with them.
Yeah, but I think that, I mean, to advertisers you can really paint in broad strokes and I think the people that are gonna listen to this are gonna have some fundamental things in
common maybe when it comes to buying habits.
uh So, um yeah.
So you can, you can.
You can kind of sell it like our audience is small but they're mighty.
like, let's say you sell, I don't know, natural toothpaste or something.
You know, that if you have the best shit out there and like we're actually passionate about it, I think that that's actually something that we need to legitimately have in mind
is that they're buying the trust that our listeners have with us.
So if they trust you about whatever weird crap that we're talking about, they're also going to trust that if you really like this toothpaste and it's the best one you've ever
had and it's changed the way that you thought about brushing your teeth or something, then they would pay more for that.
I mean, yeah.
It's just getting, know, it's getting the audience.
You know, this is how this guy in Vancouver, Eckerd Tolle started, the power of now.
Yeah, he just was some local guy in Vancouver.
He had like a little book out there on the shelf.
Somebody liked it.
And next thing you know, the guy's like selling millions of books.
And he didn't do anything special.
just is an intelligent guy who just kind of recooked basic Buddhism.
This book is just about Buddhism, but it doesn't say it's Buddhism.
it's somebody, I read the book, so I'm just saying I read the book.
So I can tell the guy who wrote the book studied Buddhism because it's basically just recooked Buddhism.
There's not one idea in there that's his, but he's smart and he kind of recooked it.
When was this?
I think it was about 10 years ago.
wow, he's really a recent guy.
His name sounds really old.
It does and then he's got a kind of name that sounds old so he
Right.
Okay.
Interesting.
Well, what's recooked Buddhism?
ah
Buddhism is a very simple philosophy, right?
And I'm not like a very religious Buddhist, but it's a pretty straightforward philosophy on life.
And this guy just didn't use any of the key words that would tip you.
For instance, in Buddhism, they talk about the cause of suffering and the remedy to suffering.
You could explain all this in two or three minutes.
And he didn't really get into that, but mostly the Buddha is saying you have to...
You can't live in the past, you can't live in the future, you have to live in the present.
So that's his book, The Power of Now.
Okay.
But it's recooked Buddhism.
Well, he's saying he's living...
The whole book is nothing but one thing, live in the moment.
Don't relate to the past, don't relate to the future, just be present.
But this is basically...
And especially not in Buddhism, it's especially like Zen Buddhism.
So I can tell reading the book that he studied it and he didn't refer to it.
Okay.
That that's what he was doing.
It wasn't like his own idea.
He wasn't sitting on a park bench.
And this came to him.
definitely read that somewhere.
Right.
What did he call it?
Now, just okay.
Does he have a philosophy that he like cozies up to or?
Okay.
You he's claiming he was sitting on a bench and...
Is he kind of one of these like career guys too?
No, I think he's more of an academic.
He's an academic who is an alcoholic.
And he claims like he was like literally sitting on a park bench and this whole kind of came to him.
But I actually don't, I think it would be coincidental.
Sure, okay.
I mean do you think that he gets it right though?
I
I think he gets it philosophically right from the tone of his writing.
don't actually think he experiences this himself.
Okay.
which is very common these days.
There's a lot of what I would call derivative.
Like Deepak Chopra or somebody like that.
There's derivative teachers that I don't think they're actually particularly enlightened, but they're very good about talking about it.
Or Joseph Campbell, the mythologist.
These are a lot of popular people these days, would call.
Or, you know, these...
um
self-help gurus like Wayne Dyer and I mean these kind of people who are I would say they strike me because I've heard them speak their derivative speakers I I am NOT buying that
they actually are any more liberated than anybody else but they're they talk about other people you know they teach it but not necessarily from their own experience yeah
Yeah, I know what you mean.
I I guess I feel like there's a place for people who are translators, or a place for people who can, I don't know, take it down a notch, but that's not, that sounds really
negative, and that sounds like they're dumbing it down, which I don't really mean, but I guess turn it in.
Yeah, I mean, I guess.
I don't know, applying it to whatever the current way of talking or the current way of thinking is.
But, I mean, guess what you're saying is there's something that gets lost in translation.
There's something about the original text.
I think that, and I was dealing with this this weekend, is that, and is this the show, almost we do the show, I was experiencing this this weekend, a lot of people are kind of
new to all of this, and they have some very strong experiences that they have no reference to.
It's happened very early to them and they have some very uplifting experience.
And now they think they're very enlightened.
But actually, um it takes time.
It's really at the end of the day about personal and spiritual and character development.
And so even if you have some kind of experience,
It takes many years to kind of integrate it into your day to day life to kind of really get what it means.
So I think a lot of people have some kind of breakthrough experience and they think that's what it is, but that's not exactly what it is.
That's just a breakthrough experience.
Okay, what kind of breakthrough experience?
Mmm.
Well, I think it's in
in.
you know the you know kind of the dna of human beings that you you're born with kind of like this code inside you and there's a way to unlock that code so everybody's got it in
their dna because as human beings we're spiritual beings so
You're into this life so everyone, every human being has the capacity to experience infinity.
Like I was talking last week.
there's a, it's like an imprint.
It's like a code.
You're born into this life as a human being.
So it's kind of in your DNA, but you have to know the code to unlock it.
Okay.
And so there are
There's an experience so people have these experiences of opening up to this on many levels all the way to absolute liberation but even along the way feeling very expansive,
connected.
It's a feeling of being very connected and emerging.
And so people all have that by nature.
And so that's some of it, but what they don't know is that there's something beyond that.
that is like taking that experience and bringing it back and integrating it into the human life, which is much more rare.
So there's many people who have kind of this breakthrough experience, but there's very few people who really known how to integrate that into their life.
That takes.
That takes some skill.
And, I mean, is the breakthrough experience part of being enlightened, or would you just say it's part of the human condition?
I'd say it's both.
It's part of the human condition that everyone is born with that in their DNA.
in this life, every human being has the capacity to experience oneness with the universe.
Every human, that's part of the human capacity because if you
see things in terms of what we would call like reincarnation and karma that you're in this lifetime as human being because of things that have happened before so you weren't
necessarily always a human being but you brought to the state of being a human being and in this day so you've kind of earned the right to be a human being and as the human being
you have the opportunity for enlightenment which is
we would say is not necessarily true of all the animals.
Right, so animals aren't enlightened?
No.
What about dogs?
Even dogs.
I think they have other place, I don't, they don't have the awareness to actually experience infinity.
But I'm not down on dogs.
They have their own experience and it's all kind of connected anyhow.
So that dog may be a human being someday.
Right?
I always thought my dog had a guy inside of him growing up.
It probably does.
Yeah.
So, yeah, so that's imprint.
That's, yeah, so that's imprinted.
As a human being, you have that capacity.
But, but just having the experience of itself doesn't necessarily finish the story.
A lot of the teaching I have is actually, most of the people are just interested in the first thing.
I was myself.
And so when I started on this path, really only had a real kind of desire, a hunger for having this transcendental experience.
I felt that it existed, but I didn't know what it was.
But there was something inside of me that pulled me towards that.
And that drove me getting into the lifestyle that I have because I thought that I would get that experience.
And actually I did.
But ah then I realized that actually that was not it.
Definitely.
That's actually not even the goal.
So I always thought that was the goal because of the stuff that I had read.
So I didn't really see anything beyond
striving for some transcendental defining experience.
I thought that was the goal, but then I found out that that wasn't the goal.
That was more like a marker.
A marker of being on the right path.
Yeah.
Yeah, took me a while to understand that, but all it is is a marker and actually has no inherent value at all.
So what I wanted actually, I found out had no inherent value.
So that was quite uh surprising to me.
Can you be on the path without having a breakthrough experience?
I think you can.
I couldn't because I was convinced I needed it so I needed that marker.
So let's define what we're talking about.
mean, what is a breakthrough experience?
What are people telling you?
Well, if anybody reads, doesn't matter what the path is, know, and there's many.
You call it a religious or spiritual path.
You know, there's, there's some kind of promise there that you're going to have an experience that takes you out of your little self and you're going to experience your big
self.
Okay.
oh
going to experience uh what created you.
You're going to experience the totality of your being that may cross over time and space.
This experience really is about crossing over time and space.
Where we're prisoners of time and space.
That's ultimately what we're prisoners of is time and space.
Right, because you can't time travel.
You can.
But I'm this is what I'm saying is that, you can time travel.
You can get out of time and space.
That's the that's one of the markers of this experience, because this experience is outside of time and space.
But your life as a human being is not outside of time and space.
So it's like having a near-death experience.
Not a near death experience, a death experience.
Okay.
It's a mini death.
In the tradition that I am a member of the Sikh path, Guru Nanak was a great mystic who lived like 500 years ago.
He's the first guru of the Sikh path.
And Guru Nanak taught that the purpose, and this is how he would describe it, he said the purpose of life is to cross over life's terrible ocean
and then help others swim across.
That was his way of describing it.
you know, you're in this life and that's one of the purposes of life is to get out of that limitation and to experience that.
But that's not the only thing you have to do.
The bigger challenge I've learned is
having that experience and integrate it into living on this planet, that's very hard to do.
It's actually not very hard to, having what I call like a Nirvana experience is actually not that hard, that's actually pretty easy.
Yeah.
think it's hard.
People think it's hard, but it's kind of like they just haven't done what they need to do to do it.
mean, but every, but there's been many people lived on the planet who've had the experience of Nirvana or whatever you call it.
Illumination.
That's a good point.
Many people have had it and they all had two arms and two legs and they actually gave a recipe and they just go you know you just do this and Sincerely, this is actually how you
do that.
So for instance in the seek path the the Guru's taught if you resonate your brain Constantly on God's name
that you will experience God.
And it's just a matter of disciplining yourself to do it.
And then in one moment, you won't, without any expectation, you'll be there.
That's what the teachings are.
Very few people actually apply themselves to do it.
They talk about it, but they actually don't do it.
But the technology, I'd call it a technology.
The technology is there.
So this is like science.
This is just a technology.
It's not even a belief system.
like, look, this is how you bake the cake.
This is what you do.
And this is it.
And then you'll have this experience.
That's actually pretty easy.
I mean, it's shocking how easy it is.
It's easy to experience.
oh
enlightenment.
It's actually um easy to know God and you can do it in fairly short amount of time.
What you're doing is, as we were talking about, is there's a technology for experiencing your being outside of time and space and it's essentially the experience of light.
You're light.
Light is, I mean, even read the teachings of Einstein, know, mean, even scientifically, it's like, it's beyond, light is beyond physical, a physical particle can move.
It's kind of outside of time and space.
So all the saints have described this experience of being submerged in light.
So it's there.
The technology is actually pretty straightforward and the people who have experienced it have left behind kind of the uh code.
But what's much harder is having that experience and knowing what to do with it.
So I feel like it's personally my mission.
So how do you apply it to your daily life?
It's very difficult because this experience is so etheric in nature and the life here is so physical in nature.
And so in this path, I think the way that you apply it is take that experience and you have to live your life with a certain uh consciousness, certain
awareness, certain values.
you know, was teaching, I was telling you, I was out of town teaching this weekend, and this was actually a big theme of whenever I was teaching, whatever I was teaching, getting
people to understand that it's not what you experience, it's how you conduct yourself.
This is, people have a hard time wrapping their head around that, but...
I'm almost devaluing their experience of infinity because I really don't think in and of itself it's very important.
Okay.
Yes.
how you integrate that into the way you, but you're a human being, you're here.
So you have to figure out a way to make it relevant.
If you just have an experience and you have to like, know, so I make my living being a lawyer.
If I can't kind of integrate that in the way I interact with people, what's purpose?
So what if I had a big experience?
What's for?
I mean, there's no, so a person who's very spiritually oriented is very,
guided by purpose and reason.
You have to have purpose for doing something otherwise you have no reason for living.
So even if you have an experience of enlightenment there has to be some purpose to it.
You have to come back with something.
Yeah, you have to come back with something.
Otherwise there's no reason to be here.
And you have to come back with something big because there's a lot of suffering here.
People are very lost.
And it's almost like you you found the other shore.
Everybody else is lost and you're to come back and share you know, there's a way through all this mess.
Are we just talking about, what are we talking about?
Are we talking about dreams?
Are we talking about conscious moments?
I think right now what we're talking about is how a spiritually oriented person handles their life.
Okay.
your day to day life, how everything connects.
See, actually, being around many, people who aspire to have a
this, you know, when we started talking about this out of body experience at a time of this, actually that's, that's very selfish.
It's, it's, it's the same reason, let's say for instance, that somebody would, you know, go out Friday night, pick somebody up in a bar and get laid.
And even having sex with this stranger still may feel a moment of great expansion and connection even with this total stranger.
That's what they want to feel even if it's for some fleeting moment.
But they want to have some moment of timelessness and maybe they're thinking they'll have it for three or four seconds if they get somebody in a bar and bring them home.
But in a way it's really no different than a lot of people meditating because they're still kind of grabbing for some kind of experience that's going to make them feel better
even if it's for a moment.
So you put meditating and picking up chicks on the same level?
All right.
Yeah, I see what you're
I'm not talking, I know I obviously I meditating in the long run is much better strategy because it can lead to healthier things.
But I'm more talking about what motivates people to do what they do.
A lot of people, let's say for instance, I've been teaching yoga and meditation for many years so I see the people come into class.
Most of the people come to class are in the class because they're lonely.
Sure.
Okay, so again, it's the same reason people would go to a bar.
But I think it's a more productive and healthier strategy.
And there's a lot of benefits that come out of it that I don't think are going to come out going to a bar.
But the motivation is the same as that I'm feeling empty and I want to feel full.
And there's something that's telling me that if I do this, it's one of the problems that what happens, like I think it's how people become alcoholics really, that, um sex addicts
or anything, is that they're young, they live a pretty un...
exciting life and they'll have some experience.
They, you know, they got drunk for the first time in their life.
They got laid for the first time in their life.
And so it's a lot, it's kind of a rush.
So they don't have like anything else.
They don't have like a fallback position.
So they keep going to the well to try to recreate that rush.
But
you can't recreate, the first rush is the big rush and you can't exactly recreate it.
So you have to start drinking more and more.
You get involved with people, you start dropping them for other people.
You start getting into very self-destructive behavior because you need more and more to somehow recreate that first rush, but you never quite can do that.
So this is really nothing you get into very compulsive and addictive behavior.
So I don't think that's as good strategy as it is to consciously work on yourself with some self-discipline that will give you an expansive experience that will have healthy uh
results, put you around healthier people.
Right.
But the initial motivation is pretty simple.
You're feeling empty, you're feeling disconnected, and you want to feel whole and connected.
So to this extent, I have lot of compassion for people who go to bars, because it's the same reason people go to yoga class.
Is it all about loneliness though?
mean, can you not feel lonely and still have a desire to connect with people?
Yeah, that's what loneliness is.
mean, to me, they're interchangeable.
mean, loneliness, to whatever extent somebody's experiencing it, consciously or unconsciously, is feeling disconnected from your own self and from others.
It's very painful, and most people aren't even conscious of it.
I think...
One difference for instance, somebody going to yoga class for instance, is they may actually have some acknowledgement or self-consciousness of it and are making a specific
decision to address it rather than to address it unconsciously with self-destructive behavior.
But um I would say that this is the root cause of oh
just about all suffering, at least emotionally, psychologically, is people do not feel connected to themselves or to anybody else and they're desperately trying to do that,
whether it's trying to find somebody to be a couple with or whatever.
So people are doing that.
They're making many choices that would seem to point them in the direction of connection.
But
either their strategies are very bad or they don't keep with good strategies and so it doesn't work out.
Right.
I mean, I guess I do agree with you because you have no other consciousness but your own.
know, I mean, aside from these transcendent experiences, but I mean, even then, I don't know if you, just speaking from experience, I don't know if I've ever, you know, felt like
I've lost myself.
Like, you know, even
When tripping, I've known, you know, I still hear my own voice.
I'm still in my own head and I kind of know that.
um So, I do agree with you.
mean, people, so people never have the experience of another person.
They'll never know how they're actually perceived.
They'll never know what their most beloved partner actually feels like.
Well, it's a very base cause of pain.
You know, I just came here, I on the subway, and I just, I always look at this, I'm on the subway, and it's packed with all these people, and I just kinda look around and you see
that, how, you can see who's really disconnected.
and
You could see what a difficult existence that is for most people.
people get, but most people in their lifetime get a flash.
They get a moment.
Maybe they have a child, maybe they fall in love, maybe, you know, whatever.
Maybe it's a drug.
They get a moment.
But that's also painful because it's very hard to replicate, it's hard to sustain.
Right.
And again, really you think in the evolution of the planet and people, you really go back as what is the cause of all wars?
What's the cause of uh just anti-social behavior?
Any of it.
It's that you don't see yourself in the other person.
You actually can see that at the end of the day you are the same person.
that manifests itself separately, we're all from, different religions say it differently, but we're all from the same father, we're all from the same source.
And to the extent that there's a disconnection there, there's dysfunctional behavior.
People don't see strangers as being their brothers, especially if they're like another color.
another really, you know, they start to find they start defining ways that, you know, it's us and them.
Right.
But this very undeveloped thinking, it's never us and them.
It's always about us.
It's very, it's very backward thinking.
It's not expansive at all.
If you cannot see yourself in another person, then you can't see yourself at all.
And so this is cause of great alienation.
I alienation from oneself and from others, which is really the same thing, is the root of almost, if not all suffering.
Because the natural tendency, the natural state of being of an enlightened person is to be connected and feel full.
within oneself and connecting with others.
To whatever extent a person doesn't have that experience, a person needs to continue in this life and future lives until that state is achieved.
That's the purpose of spiritual development.
Okay, so you take your spirit with you.
In a sense you could take anything anywhere.
mean if you want to put in those words taking it, but you can't kill your spirit.
It's the only thing you can kill.
You kill everything else but you can't kill your spirit because it has no physical properties.
Everything else this gets back to what we saying in the beginning.
Everything else is in time and space.
Spirit is not in time and space.
That's how you break out of time and space by relating to your spirit.
Because time and space has no constriction on spirit.
And that's part...
That's a very important part of being a human being is that you actually do have a spirit.
And until you...
Until you are best friends with this spirit, you are going to be a prisoner of time and space.
Well, mind-blowing.
mean, to meet a lot of people who don't believe in spirit or don't believe they have a soul.
Actually, I think at the end of the day, everybody believes in it to a certain extent, even if they deny it and say they're an atheist, for instance.
no matter what they say, their actions kind of behoove that.
Yeah, I mean think for me the most PC way of putting it is intuition.
I think that's something that everybody kind of relies on.
Even the most pragmatic atheist, you know, will still say like, have a feeling about this or, you know, and that's just their intuition.
But what is that?
Yeah, again, when I was younger, that kind of got my attention who would believe in this and not.
But again, later in life, I'm actually more intrigued by who would actually be sufficiently intrigued by it to devote their attention to it, to developing it.
That's more interesting to me.
Because as you said, people call it different things.
everybody...
I think everybody deep down thinks there's something other than just your body.
Even if they're trying to prove to you they think differently.
On some operational level, you can see that there's some kind of association that uh I'm not just my body.
Right.
Even if people are going, well, my thoughts, well, that's still kind of vibrational.
So, but I think as I'm getting older, what's more interesting to me is who among us is actually willing to devote their attention to developing this, this uh part of themselves.
this this this
Awareness, which is not a lot of people
Would you consider yourself one of those people?
Definitely.
Definitely I would.
And I always can see people who are that way because I know what it looks like.
And it's just the way that people are.
You can feel it.
It's kind of like they're tapped into something.
can't put your finger on it, but it's just the way they present themselves.
Well, what do you think those people are going for?
Are they just looking for fullness?
uh
you know I'm not in their head but uh I would just say that sometimes it's not even like a conscious decision I think it's just actually to me you know it's funny because as I'm
getting older I see this in different terms because when I was younger I saw these in this very ethereal terms now as I'm older I see it a more pragmatic terms actually I think it's
about self-respect
That's all I think.
I don't think it's anything more than that actually.
I think it's that's all it is.
It's about self-respect.
It's a person's commitment to respecting themselves for what they are.
And so that has very profound consequences that if you really kind of take that all the way out, then you're going to respect every aspect of your person.
And ultimately you have to respect your own infinity.
You have to respect the essence of yourself which people are not really supported in doing in this world right at this particular point.
Very few people are actually supported in loving their essence.
or even recognizing that it exists, but that at the end of the day, that's who they are and that's what will outlive their physical bodies.
So it's very unhealthy not to have a relationship with that, awareness of that.
So at the end of the day, I actually see it in terms of self-respect.
Wow.
I mean, I really like that because I've always, you have to take care of yourself if you are going to take care of anyone else.
mean, there are lots of adages about that.
Well, and of course, if you read, you know, all the masters over the years, you said something and people use this all the time.
And I don't think they really think about the consequences of that statement.
And I did for me, a very young age and you were just saying about, um, uh, you use the word yourself, but actually to me, that's not two words.
That's, that's not one word.
That's two word.
Your.
self.
And so in other words, people kind of throw that around, but I actually think that's very deep.
You know, that you actually have a self.
You have a living thing that doesn't have a name.
There is this something, there is something that is you, but that doesn't have a place.
It doesn't have a name.
You've given all of this a name, but actually it doesn't have a name.
Right.
You are actually, people don't understand that is that nobody really has a name.
Yeah.
People gave you, people labeled you something and they dressed you up and they trained you to be a certain way.
But underneath all that is actually this very vibrant being that doesn't have a name, doesn't have a time or place, just kind of exists and is a very, very beautiful and pure
nature.
And people are very alienated from this.
They're buried under all these adjectives.
Yeah.
about every most people I know are nothing but it just a big barrel of adjectives There's no real person they they define who they are
by adjectives.
They define themselves in comparison to everything else.
Where they are, what their name is, what their career is, who they're living with, what they like, what they don't like, what their opinions are, what they...
You can go down the whole list, but very few people actually have an experience of just what they are, this self that you're talking about.
And again, this is one of the...
major purposes of spiritual development is that you actually can feel yourself.
That part of you that doesn't never is born never will die doesn't have a name.
That's actually who you are.
And that's also universal.
course.
And it's the same thing that's living in everybody.
So if you have this respect for that thing that's living inside of you, naturally you respect the same thing that's within your fellow man.
Okay, we have to wrap it up soon, unfortunately, but do you have anything like a short five minute spiel, anything that anybody could do at home?
Well, you know, I think that a very good place for people to start and we do this When somebody let's say starts taking yoga for instance There's other good paths to but yoga
for instance is that You have to start like training yourself to uh Slow down and listen
and because often we're so distracted that we don't actually even listen.
So there's something I really like.
If you have like a watch at home, I really like, know, and you could build up to it if you don't have it now, but I would call this like the one minute breath.
Okay.
So you want to start very slowly.
Do you need a minute?
Minute on the clock?
Well, even I tell you, you know what even people could do with, know, mean, I mean, would be great actually if you can, ideally you'd actually be inhaling for a minute, holding for
a minute and exhaling for a minute.
rather than do the breathing or pranayama Olympics, I think that would be very helpful for the, because you got to start somewhere for the average person.
How about, you know, just slowly inhaling for 15 seconds, holding for 15 seconds, slowly exhaling for 15 seconds, and then keeping the breath out for 15 seconds.
I was trying it.
I died.
Cool.
Yeah, 15, 15 in, 15 hold.
And we don't have to do it this second.
mean, but people can time themselves at home.
15 in, but it's very slow.
15 in, hold 15.
then use the diaphragm, enable point.
Just control the breath from down there, not from up there.
Through the nose, always through the nose.
mouth closed.
Right.
very slowly slowly for 15 seconds then then hold that for 15 and then slowly tightening your
your diaphragm, navel points, so it's all out.
And then the challenge is keeping it out for 15 seconds.
Because there's that thought, the body naturally reacts, I'm going to die.
I have no air.
So, you know, there's even an emotional reaction to this.
Like, oh, what am I going to do?
I'm going to die.
But if you do that, this one minute breath, 15, 15, 15 and 15, I ah would say this, this is a very good test because
I'd really love for you to actually try this when something is upsetting you.
Because I challenge you to still be upset in three minutes.
It's very hard.
Yeah, I'm sure.
Because, and you it's interesting because like if you're running, if you observe, I love observing people.
I mean it's like the best show, you don't have to go to the movies.
There's a show going on all the time.
But you can see that if you pay attention that people are very hyper, breathe very quickly.
And people who are very um even-killed.
You can see they actually generally breathe slower.
And so you can actually, it's very much in your control what your uh mental and emotional state is.
So everybody's thinking they need to calm down, maybe take a pill, but maybe all you gotta do is just train yourself to breathe a little different.
You actually have, nobody's ever even told you that your breath is controlled to
the pattern of your mind.
Nobody's actually shared that.
example, what I'm saying is that this stuff is out there.
Just that people, because they don't know about it, doesn't mean it's not out there.
This stuff has been talked about for thousands of years.
It's readily available information.
It's not like hidden somewhere.
It's common sense.
I mean there are only so many inputs into our bodies.
mean breathing is breathing and eating and drinking.
It's a very amazing organism because everything is kind of connected to everything else.
there's this very, there's all these like trigger points and like it's just the opposite.
Like we use something called breath of fire, which is very rapid breathing.
So in comparison, if you're feeling like you need energy, yeah, I'm breathing like 10 times a second.
And this actually can give me energy when I don't have any.
Or if I'm feeling very panicky.
Like sometimes, like I'll be in the street and somebody's actually in a shocking situation.
I'll see somebody who's in shock.
Something's happened.
you can see that they start panicking.
I say, know, breathe long indeed, just long indeed.
And then kind of get it back together.
Just getting that together.
Wow.
Yeah, so we call that in yoga verbiage, that would be Pranayama.
Prana is energy.
And yama is kind of mastery over that.
So, that's what you do to control the prana.
Pranayama is what you do to control the life force.
Okay, so that's anything that you do to keep your shit together.
Well in this case Pranayama specifically has to do with the breath control.
But it's interesting because prana is your life force and pranayama is a technique to get control over your life force and all of pranayama has to do with breathing, breath
control.
So breath control is actually the key to control your prana, your life force.
So this is
mean we've been talking in this conversation, these are tools of the trade kind of they've been around for thousands of years, it's no big mystery and as you said actually a lot of
this stuff is also common sense.
Right now the thing I'd really like to plug is that people's opportunity to connect with me personally to talk about anything they want to talk about.
Cool.
You know what?
How are they gonna do that?
They are going to do that by uh emailing me at harinam56 at gmail.com.
H-A-R-I-N-A-M harinam56 at gmail.com.
you could also visit my website, www.yogaheaven.com.
Awesome.
So they can do that and then you know people call me from all over the world to talk to me about anything And these days you do that on Skype.
So if you write me And you want to uh talk about something going on in your life.
That's what I do and These days I do that over Skype.
So I people from cool then English do that in Spanish Yeah
Oh, awesome.
Wow.
So I travel a lot and teach around the world too, but at the end of the day I think for most people that is how I can be of greatest service personally.
You know, people, and I do a lot of relationship counseling in particular.
sure, just working out those issues.
I mean, for most people, it just talking about it?
Is it just giving words to these things?
How important is that?
Hmm.
Wow.
You know, nobody has ever actually asked me that's kind of interesting is people putting words to it.
I think that uh obviously since I'm talking to people the the word is words are a big thing, but I also is word you were using a lot.
I I bank a lot on my intuition and I think people also are not clear what even their intuition is and
Spidey sense.
It's your Spidey sense.
Yeah, but for most people, I find that most people actually, it's kind of like where you dig your whole mining, that I think sometimes people think their emotional feelings are
their intuition, but actually, if you have any feeling about anything, it's definitely not your intuition.
Does any emotion...
Your intuition doesn't feel like anything.
Right, your intuition just feels like your intuition.
It's just a different...
It's much louder.
Well, you know what the intuition is and I think that, I mean, you can look at this in two different ways.
Intuition, some people say you can develop your intuition.
But I would actually say that everybody's born with intuition, but it is totally buried.
And so it's not a matter of developing it as much as it is getting those things that are in the way out of the way.
Right.
because the intuition, it's not like you develop it, it's already, you're born with it.
And basically you're not accessing it.
Or worse, you think that something is your intuition and actually it's not your intuition.
Like, for instance, I think most people who are very spiritually developed would tell you that basing your decisions on your life, on your emotional feelings is a horrible thing.
mistake.
Okay.
But most highly developed people would say that it's a good idea to trust your intuition.
But that being said, you better well know the difference between what your feelings are and what your intuition are.
I find that a lot of people kind of glom them somehow together because there's a lack of sophistication in their consciousness.
It's the same way like people glom together loving and being in love, which have very little to do with each other.
But they assume they're the same thing.
people kind of glom together intuition with emotional feeling and they can't they're not sophisticated enough to kind of kind of separate them out so they're okay this is my
feelings is my intuition just like they can't separate out you know there's real love here and there's being in love which have nothing to very very little to do with each other so
it's a sophistication in consciousness
Okay, the love and being in love one, I haven't...
I can't separate the two.
Most people can't.
I mean, it's just...
But it's actually, if you go down the list of the things that are the most destructive to people's lives, that would be very, very high in the list.
That would be the top two or three in list.
Inability to differentiate love and being in love is extremely dangerous.
causes, I mean, people actually can destroy their lives.
uh Their inability to differentiate between the two
has caused millions to destroy their lives and the lives of others.
It's actually very dangerous.
And so it's same thing.
People make very important decisions in life and they're going, well, I'm following my intuition.
When in fact, they're not following their intuition, they're following their emotions of the neurosis because they really don't know what intuition is.
Just like they make...
decisions based hard decisions based on what they think is love when it's actually based on being in love which is a far different thing and Causes a lot of problems when people
make their decisions in life based on being in love.
They're playing a very dangerous game mmm, it just is you know, so you know, it just takes they said but when you devote your life to
spiritual development and character development, these kind of things actually sort themselves out up the road.
It gets clearer what all these things are and then when you make decisions, it's much more conscious.
Alright, so there's hope for us yet.
They even made this hope for me.
I'm 60, there's still hope for me.
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