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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun, in

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<v Speaker 1>practical ways. Hey, everybody, welcome to the Bible Guys. My

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<v Speaker 1>name is Chris, this is Jeff, and we are pleased

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<v Speaker 1>to be here with you.

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<v Speaker 2>We are so happy and.

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<v Speaker 1>We're excited that you tuned in. And we're starting a

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<v Speaker 1>brand new series this week. And the idea is, what

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<v Speaker 1>if Jesus had.

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<v Speaker 2>A podcast, had his own podcast, Yeah, and he'd say

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<v Speaker 2>all kinds of good stuff, wouldn't it be fun? Well?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, turns out he did say all kinds

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<v Speaker 2>of good stuff. He did, and it still works today.

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<v Speaker 1>And so we're doing famous quotes of Jesus, not all

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<v Speaker 1>of them, but maybe fifty or sixty of them, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to dive into I don't even know what

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<v Speaker 1>today's is. What's today's quote?

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<v Speaker 2>Today's quote is who do you say I am?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, that's a good one. One. Do you say that

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<v Speaker 1>I am?

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<v Speaker 2>You say I am?

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<v Speaker 1>Yep?

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<v Speaker 2>Yep. But before we jump into that one, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we are committed to bringing the most important news and.

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<v Speaker 1>Advice, always dedicated to.

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<v Speaker 2>Our listeners, and we scour the internet looking for the

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<v Speaker 2>very best advice and the very best news, and we

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<v Speaker 2>think that the most authoritative and least biased news.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you realize that all of our faithful listeners know

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what you're gonna say.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the Babylon B that's on the whole internet. The

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<v Speaker 2>Babylon B is the most reliable source. And this one

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<v Speaker 2>today is it's ade for some of the listeners, the

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<v Speaker 2>single ladies, all the single ladies that listen that one

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<v Speaker 2>Ore podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that song?

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<v Speaker 2>What's that?

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<v Speaker 1>You said you didn't know a single Beyonce song, but

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<v Speaker 1>that one?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what's that?

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<v Speaker 1>If you like it, then you should have put a

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<v Speaker 1>ring on it?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I know that? Okay, So I do. I

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<v Speaker 2>guess I don't know the song, but I'm familiar with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't sing it, but yeah, okay. And that came

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<v Speaker 2>up from a conversation we had where I said I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, sorry, that was sort of offline. Yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 1>an offline conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>I brought in Beyonce song, but I'm familiar with that one. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So this one is ten dating red flags women should

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<v Speaker 2>look out for, right and so ladies, this is helpful

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<v Speaker 2>for you're writing it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm actually caring. We care, We do care.

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<v Speaker 2>We care about our lady listeners, especially our single lady listeners.

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<v Speaker 2>We want to make sure that they find good, godly men.

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<v Speaker 2>And this here it is. Here's what it says. The

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<v Speaker 2>dating scene is tough these days, with everyone using dating

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<v Speaker 2>apps to meet and hook up. It's important for women

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<v Speaker 2>to be careful about the guys they choose. Protect yourself

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<v Speaker 2>by keeping a close eye out for those very concerning

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<v Speaker 2>warning signs in the guy you're dating. So look out

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<v Speaker 2>for these ten dating red flags. Number one, Yep, he

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't open the door for you. So much for chivalry.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh these are serious?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, okay. Number two he does open the door

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<v Speaker 2>for you. He's too nice, sick right, Okay, these are

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<v Speaker 2>not serious. Number three he doesn't text back. He clearly

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<v Speaker 2>hates you and is being unspeakably cruel.

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<v Speaker 1>He should die, he should die, Oh my goodness.

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<v Speaker 2>Number four he texts back right away. What a weirdo.

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<v Speaker 2>He's so needy. So look out for these, ladies.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, you know what, these are the thoughts that men

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<v Speaker 1>rush a should I wait? Maybe I'll text your but

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<v Speaker 1>I'll wait a day.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so even our male single mail listeners. Care learning

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<v Speaker 2>from you? Oh, complete take as a cue, open the

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<v Speaker 2>door and don't open the door. That's right, reply, but

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<v Speaker 2>not too soon. Here's number five. He makes less than

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<v Speaker 2>five hundred k a year.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, you need a man who can give you the

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<v Speaker 2>lifestyle you deserve, ladies, that's funny. Number six he makes

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<v Speaker 2>more than five hundred k year. Sounds like a workaholic.

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<v Speaker 2>Stay away, ladies, that's great. Number seven he works out

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<v Speaker 2>at the gym. Right, this is something look for. He

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<v Speaker 2>works out the gym. This might indicate an unhealthy obsession

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<v Speaker 2>with his appearance. Gross he doesn't work out at the gym.

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<v Speaker 2>Who wants a flabby dude who doesn't take care of himself?

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<v Speaker 2>It's gross, it's true.

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<v Speaker 1>So medium, So medium yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>He won't share his feelings. Number nine he's closed off.

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<v Speaker 2>He's hiding something from you. And he's probably a serial killer.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow wow, Well you know he should die if he texts.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and he's probably a serious killer. And number ten,

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<v Speaker 2>here's the number ten thing to look out for. He

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<v Speaker 2>shares his feelings. Great, now you have the itch again,

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<v Speaker 2>so they go Yike's ladies, If you see any of

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<v Speaker 2>these red flags run. Do you know any other dating

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<v Speaker 2>red flags? Then you should let us know in the comment.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, there you go.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, I hope that was helpful.

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<v Speaker 1>Clearly dating is a very simple formula.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right. Oh it's super easy. Yeah, super easy. That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>He doesn't open the door, he does open the door.

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<v Speaker 2>He makes too much money, doesn't make enough money, It

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<v Speaker 2>works out too much, doesn't work out enough.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you seen you know? That five hundred k comment

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<v Speaker 1>reminded me. Have you seen these guys who go viral?

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<v Speaker 1>They just walk up to crowds of people and they

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<v Speaker 1>have these recordings and they say, hey, let me ask

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<v Speaker 1>you a question. So they were interviewing women, women who

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<v Speaker 1>are like sort of I don't know if it's in

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<v Speaker 1>La or something, but these women look like they're like

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<v Speaker 1>sort of on on the town. You know, they're they're

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<v Speaker 1>like dresses and things, and these these men walk up

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<v Speaker 1>to them and they just ask them random questions. And

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<v Speaker 1>so the famous thing that that's so funny. He goes,

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<v Speaker 1>so let me ask you a question. How tall? If

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<v Speaker 1>you have you have a preference the guy you're looking for,

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<v Speaker 1>how tall should he be? And everybody says over six

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<v Speaker 1>foot okay. And then they say, okay, how much does

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<v Speaker 1>he need to make in order for him to, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for you to consider being your husband? And all of

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<v Speaker 1>them say two hundred and fifty or more two d

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty thousand or more, right, And and then they

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<v Speaker 1>ask a third question. I don't know what it is,

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<v Speaker 1>something generic like that, and and and then they look

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<v Speaker 1>it up and they go, okay, do you know what

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<v Speaker 1>percentage of men in the world are your descriptors? Three percent?

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<v Speaker 1>And they're like, like, if you need a man, who's who?

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<v Speaker 1>Say who's over six foot? And it makes over two

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty thousand dollars. That's three percent of the world.

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<v Speaker 1>They said, So good.

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<v Speaker 2>Luck, good like good luck. Well there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so hilarious.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, so this this article is all about trying to,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, really understand who it is that you're dating

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<v Speaker 2>and who you're marrying. Did Liz work really hard to

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<v Speaker 2>figure out who you were?

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<v Speaker 1>I would yeah, I would say so sure, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>That's good. You know, Jesus wanted people to figure out

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<v Speaker 2>who he was. Who do you say, I am wow?

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<v Speaker 2>That what he said?

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<v Speaker 1>What a clever, and yet you reached for it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I had to reach. I had to reach a

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<v Speaker 2>little too far or was it far?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, if you're a new listener, we try really hard

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<v Speaker 2>to have the worst possible transitions. Yes, out of these things.

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<v Speaker 2>But we are looking at when Jesus asks Peter, who

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<v Speaker 2>do you say I am? Yes, And that's a huge question.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that is relevant to all of us. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's in Matthew chapter sixteen, and we're going to start

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<v Speaker 2>in verse thirteen and read through. Verse twenty says when

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus came to the region of Cessareah Philippi, he asked

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<v Speaker 2>his disciples, who do people say that the son of

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<v Speaker 2>Man is well? They replied, some say John the Baptist,

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<v Speaker 2>and some say Elijah, and others say Jeremiah or one

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<v Speaker 2>of the other prophets. And then he asked them, but

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<v Speaker 2>who do you say I am? And Simon Peter answered,

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<v Speaker 2>you are the Messiah, the son of the Living God.

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<v Speaker 2>And Jesus supplied you are blessed Simon of John, because

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<v Speaker 2>my Father in Heaven has revealed this to you. You

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<v Speaker 2>did not learn this from any human being. And now

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<v Speaker 2>I say to you that you are Peter, which means rock.

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<v Speaker 2>And upon this rock I will build my church, and

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<v Speaker 2>all the powers of hell will not conquer it. And

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<v Speaker 2>I will give you the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven.

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever you forbid on earth will be forbidden in heaven.

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<v Speaker 2>Whatever you permit on earth will be permitted in heaven.

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<v Speaker 2>And then he sternly warned the disciples not to tell

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<v Speaker 2>anyone that he was the Messiah.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a lot of discussion around this passage, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there is, Yeah, there's discussion.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. So, Cesarea Philippi is located several miles north of

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<v Speaker 2>Sea Galilee, in an area that was ruled by King

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<v Speaker 2>Herod's son Philip. So Cesarea Philippi. Right, So Philip built

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<v Speaker 2>this this city, and it was a wicked, wicked city,

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<v Speaker 2>and it had been even before he built the city.

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<v Speaker 2>There there had been a lot of ritual worship from

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<v Speaker 2>the Canaanites and from the Greeks and then finally the Romans.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is the place, if any of our listeners

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<v Speaker 2>have heard us talk about it before, this is where

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<v Speaker 2>a part of the Jordan River flows out of this

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<v Speaker 2>this this cave. But the cave had a bottomless pit

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<v Speaker 2>in it and in Greek and Roman beliefs, bottomless pits

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<v Speaker 2>often would reference the gates to Hell, and they believed

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<v Speaker 2>that people or that spirits could come from the afterlife

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<v Speaker 2>back into this realm through water coming up from deep places.

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<v Speaker 2>And so they this cave that this river flowed out

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<v Speaker 2>of that had this bottomless pit in it. Uh that

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<v Speaker 2>had this river. There was also a square giant rock

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<v Speaker 2>out in the middle of it, and they would do

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<v Speaker 2>sacrifices there and they called that whole place the gates

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<v Speaker 2>of Hell. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>I referenced this with Kyle. Yeah, I got him confused.

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<v Speaker 1>I said something about Gehenna. I was oftentimes, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Hell was referred to as something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, and I got confused for a minute,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was thinking of this, I was, I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, isn't there a town somewhere? I just felt

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<v Speaker 2>So that was this. So Jesus literally takes these And

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, the worship there was incredibly perverted. H

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<v Speaker 2>There was a lot of temple prostitution, and a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of animals and all kinds of stuff. It was. It

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<v Speaker 2>was really really a wicked place. So do you remember,

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<v Speaker 2>for anybody who's read through the Gospels a few times,

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<v Speaker 2>there's this references of like Jesus doing his ministry mostly

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<v Speaker 1>Right, yeah, and so against yeah. And so it's interesting

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<v Speaker 1>all these weird rumors. People didn't know what to believe. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>to answer that for ourselves. Who is Jesus to you? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>That's why it's such an important question. Who do you

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<v Speaker 1>ding ding ding ding ding right, and and then he

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<v Speaker 1>says this. Then he says, you are Peter, uh, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's no longer Simon right blessed, or you Simon son

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<v Speaker 1>of John. But then and now I'm going to give

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<v Speaker 1>in your hand. Right. And then he says, you know

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<v Speaker 1>this was revealed to you by your heavenly father. And

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<v Speaker 1>then he says on this rock and he and this

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<v Speaker 1>time he uses a different word for the word rock

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<v Speaker 1>in the Greek. This this word rock when he when

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<v Speaker 1>that is used to describe mountain side or cliff right

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<v Speaker 1>on this rock. And it's interesting because a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 1>I should say, the structure of the Catholic Church. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So he says on this rock, So the Catholic Church

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<v Speaker 1>would say that Peter was the first pope. He was

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<v Speaker 1>was given to Peter specifically, and then on on Peter

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<v Speaker 1>is the church built. And so that structure of the

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<v Speaker 1>pope being in charge of the church. They would say

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<v Speaker 1>that the pope that was just elected was in you know,

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<v Speaker 1>direct succession to Peter. And which is really interesting coming

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<v Speaker 1>from this verse. But if you if you, if you

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<v Speaker 1>were to take other scholars, in fact, any scholar outside

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<v Speaker 1>that the rock that that you're going to build your

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<v Speaker 1>that you hold in your hand, and the mountain side

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<v Speaker 1>or the big huge cliff side thing that you would

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<v Speaker 1>build a church on would be the statement that Peter

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<v Speaker 1>actually made. So the little rock made a big rock statement, right,

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<v Speaker 1>so that the stone made a mountain statement. He came

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<v Speaker 1>And if you think about it, what is the one

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<v Speaker 2>Right, I mean, he's the messiahs Yes, I've described it before.

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<v Speaker 2>The Greek word for Peter is almost pebble, yes, right,

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<v Speaker 2>stone you can fit in your pocket, right, right, kind

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the Greek word that Jesus uses, or the

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<v Speaker 2>like rocket gibraltar size, yes, right, yes, he said this

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<v Speaker 2>little pebble made this rocket gibraltar statement. That's right, And

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<v Speaker 2>that's what the church is going to be built on.

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<v Speaker 2>That I am the Messiah, the son of the Living God.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And if you think, if you think about it.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's why he warned them, don't go tell people

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<v Speaker 2>I just made Peter in charge of the church, right,

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<v Speaker 2>He doesn't say that, He says, don't make don't tell

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<v Speaker 2>anybody I'm the Messiah. That's how this passage ended. That's right, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So the whole thing was never all about Peter. It

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<v Speaker 2>was only all about Jesus.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, right, that's right. Yeah, and and and again

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<v Speaker 1>there's you know, we we try to honor a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of great things about every nomination every church. Right, is

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<v Speaker 1>really clear that the Catholic Church has done great things

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<v Speaker 1>about it. But some you know, some pretty bad things.

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<v Speaker 1>But also it's also clear when you have a when

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<v Speaker 1>think we should be afraid to point that out. And

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's what we believe. That's correct. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>think about it. Right, So, if we were to gather

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<v Speaker 1>all of the churches in the area, we would disagree

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<v Speaker 1>on a lot of things. What makes a church a church, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus Christ as the way to heaven. Right. If a

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<v Speaker 1>Christ came down on the earth to die for the

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<v Speaker 1>That's the way to heaven. Then that constitutes a church.

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<v Speaker 1>But there are churches who disagree, you know. So we

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty chairs. In this room, you would have differences, right,

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<v Speaker 1>people would baptize different, they would send kids to different colleges,

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<v Speaker 1>all these different different, different, different, different, different across the line.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you put us all in one room, what

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<v Speaker 1>is the one thing that we agree upon. Jesus is

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<v Speaker 1>the Messiah. He is the son of the Living God,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is what God is going to build his

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<v Speaker 1>this world two thousand years later. That's the thing we

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<v Speaker 1>can measure, that's the thing we can see, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>thing that has power. That's the thing that the church

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<v Speaker 1>what Jesus is saying.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, in the Middle Eastern mindset, they can say

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<v Speaker 2>the Western mindset, very oftentimes is very linear. A leads

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<v Speaker 2>That's how the Western mind tends to think. But the

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<v Speaker 2>Middle Eastern mind and in Jesus way, he can be

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<v Speaker 2>and they don't have any problem with double entendres all

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<v Speaker 2>the time. Yeah, all the time. They mean two things

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<v Speaker 2>at the same time and both are true. And so

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<v Speaker 2>this little rock made, this Rock of Gibraltar's statement, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>the Son of God, right, I'm the Messiah. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to build the church on. And at the

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<v Speaker 2>exact same time, he does hand Peter the keys and say, no,

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to be the leader.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>He's saying both things, little Rock, I'm gonna use you

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<v Speaker 2>to push forward the big Rock mission. Right that that

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<v Speaker 2>that's what he's doing. And and so the whole idea

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<v Speaker 2>being a Christian is that we're little Christs. It's the

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<v Speaker 2>same thing. And so he does give Peter the keys.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, in the papal things. There's always the two

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<v Speaker 2>So he does give Peter these keys, not as the boss,

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<v Speaker 2>but as the leader. And it would make responsibility, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>with responsibility. It makes sense because you remember, Peter was

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<v Speaker 2>somewhere around forty. John, the youngest of the disciples, was

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<v Speaker 2>a teenager, probably fifteen sixteen years old when Jesus called him. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>So all these men, when Jesus had to pay taxes,

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<v Speaker 2>he was over thirty and Peter was over thirty, right,

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<v Speaker 2>grown up among them. You're going to be the leader.

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<v Speaker 2>But the focus of this passage, even he's also appointing

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<v Speaker 2>Peter as a leader. Here, the focus of the passage

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<v Speaker 2>is not Peter, you are the central focus of my church.

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<v Speaker 2>The focus is the central focus of the church is

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<v Speaker 2>I'm the Messiah. Now, don't go tell anybody yet, correct,

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there's two ways to pass on keys. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>but you're going to manage it, right, because because you

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<v Speaker 1>have now the responsibility exactly, So, either Martha Ford is

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<v Speaker 1>either she's going to give it to you and you're

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<v Speaker 1>entire city of Detroit, right because you own. Because you own,

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<v Speaker 1>you manage the keys. And we all know that Jesus

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't say you're going to build the church. He says,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to build the church. And and and so

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<v Speaker 1>we all know that Jesus is the head of the church.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it's it's it's the application is is pretty

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<v Speaker 1>you know, pretty applicable to the way that every church functions,

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<v Speaker 1>right now, that's right, Yeah, so, which is great. And

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<v Speaker 1>then and then Jesus then, uh, you know, he actually

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't reveal himself as the Messiah until what the woman

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<v Speaker 1>at the well right? Or had he already done that? Well, oh, he.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably already got he'd already done that. This is now

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<v Speaker 2>once they make this turn, they're heading back back towards Jerusalem.

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<v Speaker 2>He's on his way to die. So and he's now

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<v Speaker 2>heading towards Jerusalem.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was picturing this was I guess it is

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<v Speaker 1>Matthew sixteen, isn't that so?

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<v Speaker 2>But it really comes down to this main question, and

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<v Speaker 2>this is how we can wrap up. He said, who

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<v Speaker 2>do you say I am? And I think even a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people who show up in Christian churches have

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<v Speaker 2>a different view of Jesus than Jesus was hoping they

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<v Speaker 2>would have of him. A lot of people have Jesus

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<v Speaker 2>as he's the one that can get me to Heaven.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the one that can answer my prayers. He's the

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<v Speaker 2>one that is the founder of my religion, as opposed

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<v Speaker 2>to the statement was the Messiah, the son of the

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<v Speaker 2>Living God. The Messiah came to seek and to save

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<v Speaker 2>that which was lost. He's a savior. Behold the lamb

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<v Speaker 2>of God who takes away the sin of the world.

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<v Speaker 2>John the Baptist said, he's literally the savior of the world.

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<v Speaker 2>And so there is no significant relationship with Jesus until

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<v Speaker 2>we realize we're sinners that need a savior. We are

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<v Speaker 2>sinners that needed a Messiah. We needed somebody to come

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<v Speaker 2>and rescue us. And until I know, until I come

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<v Speaker 2>to the fact that I realized I need to be rescued,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not really experiencing Jesus in this way, right, and

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<v Speaker 2>so I needed the Messiah first and foremost. All the

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<v Speaker 2>other things are extras. He's not just my good luck

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<v Speaker 2>chime that answers my prayers. It makes me feel good

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<v Speaker 2>when I go to bed at night. He is the Messiah.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the one who came on a rescue mission to

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<v Speaker 2>save me, which means I needed saving. And until I

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<v Speaker 2>get to that point where I can humble myself and

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<v Speaker 2>say I needed a savior, I'm not really going to

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<v Speaker 2>experience what Jesus came to do for me. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>so that question, who do you say, Jesus is you

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<v Speaker 2>got to get to that answer.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so he's our savior based on this statement, and

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<v Speaker 1>then Jesus himself and John in the Book of John says,

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<v Speaker 1>I have not called you servants, but I've called you friends.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's also a friend. His personal relationship Jesus, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Paul says that he's.

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<v Speaker 2>There is no personal relationship until I realized I needed

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<v Speaker 2>to do the Messiah.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. Saviors first, Yes, saviors first. Then's friend, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and then then then Paul says, he's also are we're

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<v Speaker 1>children of God?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>So we're a child of God, we're heirs, we're airs

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<v Speaker 1>of him. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>So I mean there's all of all of those things

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<v Speaker 2>after point where he's our savior.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. Yeah. So so the most important statement right right.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's why this question is so important. Who do

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<v Speaker 2>you say? Because he's asking who are you? And John

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<v Speaker 2>the Baptist is this great preacher? You just a really

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<v Speaker 2>famous preacher. Elijah represents the prophets, right, Jeremiah prophets Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>That that's what they're saying, is man, you're just you're

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<v Speaker 2>as good as as as all these other great prophets

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<v Speaker 2>and he goes, but really, who do you say, am?

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<v Speaker 2>And there's a difference between being a religious leader and

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<v Speaker 2>being the savior of the world, the Messiah. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's great, that's where you got to get to first.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well, hey, hopefully you're enjoying this series and we

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<v Speaker 1>will see you next time on the Bible Guys,