Seeing Students, Changing Systems with Steve Gill & Marcelo Sousa

In this episode of ML Chat, Steve Gill and Marcelo Sousa engage in a powerful conversation about what it truly means to support multilingual learners. Drawing on their personal experiences and decades of work in schools, they discuss how empathy, mentorship, and listening to students' stories can transform education. It’s a poignant reminder that real change happens when we truly see each learner for who they are—and empower them to realize their own potential.

What is ML Chat: Conversations with Multilingual Educators?

ML Chat explores everything to do with Multilingual student instruction. Do you oversee students that are learning English? ML Chat is the place to learn more and continue to refine your craft. In each episode co-hosts Tim Blackburn and Justin Hewett talk with experts, researchers, and district administrators to explore how to best serve our language learners.