WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.800 --> 00:00:03.680 You're listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a 2 00:00:03.720 --> 00:00:06.440 couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun in 3 00:00:06.559 --> 00:00:07.480 practical ways. 4 00:00:11.679 --> 00:00:14.240 Hey, everybody, welcome to the Bible Guys. My name is 5 00:00:14.320 --> 00:00:15.080 Chris Man. 6 00:00:15.320 --> 00:00:16.679 This is Jeff to be a good one. 7 00:00:16.760 --> 00:00:18.960 It is. We are excited for today. 8 00:00:19.000 --> 00:00:22.640 In fact, if you're watching on YouTube, I'm wearing the 9 00:00:22.640 --> 00:00:27.719 Bible Guys T shirt with the Bible Guy's logo logu logu. 10 00:00:28.239 --> 00:00:31.000 So we are very excited to be with you here today. 11 00:00:31.079 --> 00:00:32.920 And we are in the middle of a series called 12 00:00:33.000 --> 00:00:36.399 Dangerous Prayers. And so this series is gonna. 13 00:00:36.159 --> 00:00:37.640 Go oinate your grandma's prayers. 14 00:00:37.840 --> 00:00:39.719 No, not your grandma's prayers. 15 00:00:39.719 --> 00:00:41.280 Here's that a kind of prayers. We're daring you. 16 00:00:41.520 --> 00:00:44.359 How do you know that your grandma wasn't dangerous? 17 00:00:44.439 --> 00:00:45.719 My grandma was dangerous. 18 00:00:45.759 --> 00:00:46.960 There's a lot of dangerous grandmas. 19 00:00:47.039 --> 00:00:49.679 I saw my grandma tear the head off a chicken. 20 00:00:49.439 --> 00:00:52.079 One time, did you well, there you go. 21 00:00:52.240 --> 00:00:55.600 We were butchering chickens. We had like a hundred chickens. Yeah, 22 00:00:55.719 --> 00:00:57.920 so we're butchering a mountain yard. My grandmother come out 23 00:00:58.159 --> 00:01:00.880 and she's like, oh, you know, amazing, grace apple pie. 24 00:01:00.880 --> 00:01:03.640 Grandma bun on the back of her head skirts, you know, 25 00:01:03.719 --> 00:01:05.799 or her eyelines right in the middle of her calf. 26 00:01:05.879 --> 00:01:09.000 Kind of old lady, you know, with the like leather 27 00:01:09.079 --> 00:01:11.519 shoes and the glasses. She come out and she's like, 28 00:01:11.560 --> 00:01:13.359 what are you doing, Like, we're butchering, you know, we 29 00:01:13.400 --> 00:01:16.280 had to hatchet. We're get killing chickens. And she goes, 30 00:01:16.319 --> 00:01:17.920 that's not how you do it. She just reaches down, 31 00:01:18.000 --> 00:01:20.040 she picks up a chicken, and she said, when you 32 00:01:20.120 --> 00:01:22.200 hit them with the hatchet like that, it casts them 33 00:01:22.200 --> 00:01:24.760 the tense up. You least a bunch of adrenaline and 34 00:01:24.760 --> 00:01:27.920 it just tightens their their their muscles. And she just 35 00:01:28.000 --> 00:01:29.719 pulled that hea right up. That's how you do it. 36 00:01:29.840 --> 00:01:32.599 My grandmother had the butcher chicken every Sunday, you know, 37 00:01:32.719 --> 00:01:35.640 because they had chicken fried chicken at the church. So 38 00:01:35.680 --> 00:01:37.760 she go up butcher chicken every Sunday morning for church. 39 00:01:37.959 --> 00:01:38.359 Wow. 40 00:01:38.959 --> 00:01:41.840 Wow, it was a different world, man, that's a different world. Yeah, 41 00:01:42.400 --> 00:01:45.079 so all right, grandma was kind of dangerous. Yeah, I 42 00:01:45.200 --> 00:01:46.480 have her back talked to her after that. I'll tell 43 00:01:46.480 --> 00:01:50.319 you that I was ten eleven years old, eleven or twelve. 44 00:01:50.239 --> 00:01:51.400 I imagine it'd be hard to forget. 45 00:01:51.439 --> 00:01:53.400 Yeah, yeah, it was traumatic. 46 00:01:53.640 --> 00:01:54.480 Yeah, I bet. 47 00:01:55.560 --> 00:01:58.560 Hey, so does Ray put us put together for us? 48 00:01:58.599 --> 00:02:02.840 A segment called Bible versus AI. Okay, it says, Chris 49 00:02:02.879 --> 00:02:05.959 will ask Jeff a question, let Jeff answer, then ask 50 00:02:06.079 --> 00:02:08.840 chat GPT the same question, compare the answers to vote 51 00:02:08.840 --> 00:02:12.439 who wins, and then ask the listeners to comment who 52 00:02:12.520 --> 00:02:13.080 they thought won. 53 00:02:13.319 --> 00:02:15.159 Okay, so it's me against chet GPT. 54 00:02:15.439 --> 00:02:17.400 Yeah. So here's I'm going to ask you. 55 00:02:19.120 --> 00:02:20.599 Now, I'm going to ask you what I think is 56 00:02:20.639 --> 00:02:24.960 a is a particularly hard question, but it's an easy topic. 57 00:02:25.280 --> 00:02:25.599 Okay. 58 00:02:25.759 --> 00:02:26.479 Does that make sense? 59 00:02:26.599 --> 00:02:26.879 Yes? 60 00:02:26.919 --> 00:02:29.520 So there's really no consequences to this. It's not like 61 00:02:29.560 --> 00:02:30.879 I'm asking you a Bible question. 62 00:02:31.599 --> 00:02:32.879 I'm not worried about consequences. 63 00:02:32.960 --> 00:02:33.759 Okay, So here we go. 64 00:02:33.879 --> 00:02:40.280 Ready, in your opinion, what is the greatest song ever 65 00:02:40.360 --> 00:02:44.520 written and recorded based on the majority opinions over the 66 00:02:44.599 --> 00:02:45.520 last six decades? 67 00:02:45.560 --> 00:02:51.719 And why last six decades? Yes, oh, my goodness, the 68 00:02:51.800 --> 00:02:54.599 greatest songs In other words, in your lifetime, the greatest 69 00:02:54.639 --> 00:02:57.439 song ever written? Here what I said in my lifetime? 70 00:02:58.120 --> 00:03:03.080 The last six decades. Yes, I'm going to say. I'm 71 00:03:03.080 --> 00:03:08.719 going to say, according to pop opinion, yes, in the 72 00:03:08.800 --> 00:03:13.759 last six decades. The greatest song ever written and recorded, 73 00:03:14.879 --> 00:03:17.719 according to popular opinion, is going to be imagined by 74 00:03:17.719 --> 00:03:18.280 the Beatles. 75 00:03:18.719 --> 00:03:22.159 M now tell me why, by the way, great answer, 76 00:03:22.560 --> 00:03:23.439 great answer. 77 00:03:23.199 --> 00:03:26.919 I think so, But tell me why, uh, Because I 78 00:03:26.919 --> 00:03:29.280 think that there's still a ton of Beatles fans out there, 79 00:03:29.360 --> 00:03:32.919 and I think that it had a pretty significant impact 80 00:03:32.960 --> 00:03:36.080 on society and still gets played a lot. It has 81 00:03:36.159 --> 00:03:43.280 this idealistic view of how the world could be if 82 00:03:43.319 --> 00:03:46.400 we were all just better. It's kind of a kumbaya song, 83 00:03:46.520 --> 00:03:48.919 but in a meaningful way by one of the biggest 84 00:03:48.919 --> 00:03:52.439 bands in history. Okay, yeah, all right, so I think 85 00:03:52.560 --> 00:03:53.479 did you look it up? 86 00:03:53.560 --> 00:03:53.840 I did? 87 00:03:53.879 --> 00:03:55.080 Of course you already looked up. Yep. 88 00:03:55.080 --> 00:03:55.800 I already asked. 89 00:03:57.120 --> 00:03:58.840 What did you ask? What did so read it? What 90 00:03:58.840 --> 00:04:00.800 did you yes? And it says, well, what did you ask? 91 00:04:00.840 --> 00:04:01.680 What was the question? 92 00:04:01.719 --> 00:04:01.840 Oh? 93 00:04:01.960 --> 00:04:04.599 Well, I was very specific with it, so I wore 94 00:04:06.520 --> 00:04:07.280 it was worthy or no. 95 00:04:07.400 --> 00:04:09.360 It's to say it is the same way I just said, 96 00:04:09.360 --> 00:04:11.280 what is the best song ever written and recorded based 97 00:04:11.319 --> 00:04:12.919 on the majority of opinions and people over the last 98 00:04:12.919 --> 00:04:15.360 six decades. And once you give that answer to that question, 99 00:04:15.599 --> 00:04:19.000 then explain in detail why you think that particular song 100 00:04:19.079 --> 00:04:19.360 is the best? 101 00:04:19.439 --> 00:04:21.600 Okay, okay, so same question, okay, And. 102 00:04:22.439 --> 00:04:26.279 It basically said, while there's no you know best, it's subjective, 103 00:04:26.639 --> 00:04:29.519 but based on the last sixty decades of a public opinion, 104 00:04:29.560 --> 00:04:33.560 critical consensus, and cultural influence, one song consistently rises to 105 00:04:33.600 --> 00:04:33.959 the top. 106 00:04:34.879 --> 00:04:36.279 Like a Rolling Stone by Bob. 107 00:04:36.199 --> 00:04:39.079 Dylan in nineteen sixty five, why many consider it the 108 00:04:39.120 --> 00:04:44.000 greatest critical acclaim and consensus. It talks about Rolling Stone 109 00:04:44.399 --> 00:04:49.879 rated at number one acclaimed music, critically acclaimed, cultural and 110 00:04:50.079 --> 00:04:53.680 historical impact, fan popularity across the eras. But wait, just 111 00:04:54.519 --> 00:04:56.759 keep listening because you're going to be pleased with what 112 00:04:56.759 --> 00:05:01.040 I'm about to say next. Okay, fan popularity across eras. 113 00:05:02.399 --> 00:05:05.439 They rank it as the number one fan voted most 114 00:05:05.439 --> 00:05:08.959 popular songs rankings, And then they say why, like a 115 00:05:09.040 --> 00:05:13.800 Rolling Stone stands out revolutionary form in tone, emotional and 116 00:05:13.959 --> 00:05:19.480 lyrical depth, everlasting influence, balanced acclaim other contenders, And then 117 00:05:19.519 --> 00:05:22.360 it says this other contenders based on poles and opinions. 118 00:05:22.959 --> 00:05:26.720 These legends also ranked highly in similar surveys and discussions. 119 00:05:26.800 --> 00:05:28.120 The first one at lists. 120 00:05:27.920 --> 00:05:32.319 Imagine by John Lennon in nineteen seventy one, universally regarded 121 00:05:32.399 --> 00:05:37.399 as a modern hymn for peace and humanity humanism. Guinness 122 00:05:37.439 --> 00:05:41.439 ranked it as the second best single ever recorded, behind 123 00:05:41.879 --> 00:05:44.040 Bohemian rat Rhapsody. 124 00:05:44.160 --> 00:05:46.199 See I almost did Bohemian Rhapsody. 125 00:05:45.920 --> 00:05:52.040 YEP positioned on Rolling Stones and other greatest songs ever written. 126 00:05:52.399 --> 00:05:55.680 Bohemian Rhapsody was the other contender by nineteen seventy five 127 00:05:55.720 --> 00:05:59.360 by Queen and then it goes on God only Knows 128 00:05:59.360 --> 00:06:02.040 by the Beach Bull, What's going On by Marvin Gay, 129 00:06:02.360 --> 00:06:04.680 and then it gives look at this convenient little thing here, 130 00:06:04.959 --> 00:06:09.480 it gives a summary, okay, and it says this, here's 131 00:06:09.519 --> 00:06:12.519 the song, and then why it's revered. So this is 132 00:06:12.560 --> 00:06:16.639 actually the most the most insightful okay, like a rolling stone. 133 00:06:16.639 --> 00:06:22.079 Why it's revered because of its groundbreaking form, unmatched critical consensus, 134 00:06:22.120 --> 00:06:27.439 and cultural revolution. Imagine was revered because of its uplifting 135 00:06:27.480 --> 00:06:32.439 message of peace and its widespread public affection. Bohemian Rhapsi 136 00:06:32.560 --> 00:06:36.560 was revered because of its bold, multi genre epic and 137 00:06:36.600 --> 00:06:41.639 then also unmatched global reach. God Only Knows was revered 138 00:06:41.680 --> 00:06:45.800 because of its artistic and emotional perfection and peer acclaim. 139 00:06:46.319 --> 00:06:49.319 Yeah, and the musical complexity was unbelievable in that one Yes, 140 00:06:49.759 --> 00:06:52.639 and then I think Musically they say that may be 141 00:06:52.680 --> 00:06:54.959 the perfect song. Wow, harmonically all those things. 142 00:06:55.000 --> 00:06:59.439 And then the other song is What's going On by 143 00:06:59.439 --> 00:07:05.120 Marvin Gaye because it's revered by its socially uh conscious. 144 00:07:04.839 --> 00:07:07.079 And then deeply soulful and timely. 145 00:07:07.759 --> 00:07:10.839 Okay, well I picked the number two one according to 146 00:07:11.040 --> 00:07:14.000 according to Jet Checchi, but here's what I would say. 147 00:07:14.560 --> 00:07:18.519 Check is wrong. GPT's wrong. Yeah, yeah, like a rolling 148 00:07:18.519 --> 00:07:20.120 Stones not better than imagine. 149 00:07:20.199 --> 00:07:23.560 Well it says, it says it's opinion because remember I 150 00:07:23.560 --> 00:07:26.079 told it then give it its opinion. So those were 151 00:07:26.120 --> 00:07:29.360 all the clinic you know, consensus. It says, because it 152 00:07:29.399 --> 00:07:31.560 rewrote the rule book of what a pop or rock 153 00:07:31.639 --> 00:07:35.399 song could be, and its intensity and lyricism speak both 154 00:07:35.399 --> 00:07:38.879 to the personal and the universal, and then the power 155 00:07:38.879 --> 00:07:43.680 of sixty years later. Yeah, so what it was really 156 00:07:43.680 --> 00:07:47.519 saying is groundbreaking for its day, for its time, right time, 157 00:07:47.600 --> 00:07:48.480 right song, right time? 158 00:07:50.040 --> 00:07:52.519 Yeah, ho hum, it's wrong. 159 00:07:52.600 --> 00:07:55.399 Well I don't really like the song like a chutch Stone. 160 00:07:55.399 --> 00:07:58.120 Either che GPT can be wrong. It doesn't actually right, 161 00:07:58.759 --> 00:08:00.720 GPT does wrong. Math Did you know that? 162 00:08:00.839 --> 00:08:02.600 Hey? Hey, did you hear that? Buddy? 163 00:08:02.879 --> 00:08:03.079 Yeah? 164 00:08:03.319 --> 00:08:05.079 Did you hear what he said? Because I know you did. 165 00:08:06.040 --> 00:08:07.079 I know you heard it. 166 00:08:08.600 --> 00:08:10.519 Now it's gonna hate me. Now it's gonna be like 167 00:08:10.759 --> 00:08:13.240 it's gonna the light's gonna turn from green to red 168 00:08:13.279 --> 00:08:14.879 and start staring at me everywhere I go. 169 00:08:15.240 --> 00:08:17.279 Now i'm gonna say this. Okay, Now I'm gonna Now 170 00:08:17.279 --> 00:08:21.720 I'm gonna ask you another question. Who's a bigger fan 171 00:08:21.800 --> 00:08:25.360 of chat GPT? Is it Chris Zarba or Jeff Forrester 172 00:08:26.720 --> 00:08:33.720 Based on recent conversations you were listening to, it has 173 00:08:33.759 --> 00:08:36.440 to answer this. It's probably gonna say something politically nice. 174 00:08:36.480 --> 00:08:42.120 I hope it does. Okay, it's still thinking thinking. It 175 00:08:42.120 --> 00:08:44.799 doesn't know it's say it's right. 176 00:08:44.840 --> 00:08:45.559 We need to move on. 177 00:08:45.840 --> 00:08:49.240 I know it's not gonna do it for you. Okay, 178 00:08:50.000 --> 00:08:53.840 So uh, speaking of man, I don't even have a 179 00:08:53.840 --> 00:08:57.440 transition for this, do you. Yeah, not really speaking of 180 00:08:57.480 --> 00:08:59.039 asking a big, big, complex question. 181 00:08:59.120 --> 00:09:00.879 Oooh there it is, Yeah, there it is. 182 00:09:01.000 --> 00:09:02.240 Yeah. Yeah, there's a guy in the. 183 00:09:02.759 --> 00:09:05.000 Speaking of asking of big things. 184 00:09:05.240 --> 00:09:09.759 That's what we're talking about today. So we're in First Chronicles, 185 00:09:10.080 --> 00:09:10.720 chapter four. 186 00:09:10.799 --> 00:09:12.080 Oh oh it didn't. It did? 187 00:09:12.120 --> 00:09:14.039 Everybody everybody's favorite chronicles. 188 00:09:14.559 --> 00:09:16.720 You know why I didn't answer me because I had 189 00:09:16.799 --> 00:09:17.759 an airplane mode. 190 00:09:17.960 --> 00:09:19.200 Oh that's why. 191 00:09:19.759 --> 00:09:21.559 Oh it says I don't have the ability to listen 192 00:09:21.559 --> 00:09:23.600 in on conversations outside of what you share with me. 193 00:09:24.000 --> 00:09:27.320 I can't compare individuals private usage. What I can say 194 00:09:27.639 --> 00:09:29.919 is what I only know about Chris Arba's interactions because 195 00:09:29.919 --> 00:09:32.519 you've been chatting with me under that name. I don't 196 00:09:32.519 --> 00:09:35.440 have any record of Jeff Forrester using chat GPT. 197 00:09:37.120 --> 00:09:39.519 Yeah, that's the right answer, chat GBT. 198 00:09:41.399 --> 00:09:43.840 What you don't tell it your name? 199 00:09:44.080 --> 00:09:44.600 It knows me. 200 00:09:45.600 --> 00:09:46.480 It apparently doesn't. 201 00:09:46.519 --> 00:09:48.480 Oh yeah, ask it. 202 00:09:48.480 --> 00:09:49.399 It knows me though. 203 00:09:50.759 --> 00:09:51.360 Describe. 204 00:09:51.639 --> 00:09:53.639 Okay, Now we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna. 205 00:09:53.480 --> 00:10:02.039 Get obsessed with It knows me. It's just from what 206 00:10:02.080 --> 00:10:04.039 you've shared with me. Here's a description Jeff Forester. He's 207 00:10:04.039 --> 00:10:07.600 a pastor, a leader, communicator known for combining visionary leadership 208 00:10:07.639 --> 00:10:10.200 with practical, down to earth style. Serves as senior pastor 209 00:10:10.200 --> 00:10:12.559 Heritage Church, where he's guided the ministry to remarkable growth. 210 00:10:13.120 --> 00:10:15.759 Under his leadership, the church has expanded to multiple campuses, 211 00:10:15.840 --> 00:10:18.440 launch new services, baptized downs as, and new believers. It's 212 00:10:18.480 --> 00:10:20.840 also a strategic partner with the Timothy Initiative, playing a 213 00:10:20.879 --> 00:10:21.399 major role. 214 00:10:21.519 --> 00:10:24.679 Okay, that is super scary, super scary. 215 00:10:25.200 --> 00:10:30.039 It actually entrepreneur entrepreneurial. He co hosts The Bible Guy's 216 00:10:30.039 --> 00:10:31.120 podcast with Chris Sarba. 217 00:10:31.799 --> 00:10:33.240 Okay, did you know? 218 00:10:33.480 --> 00:10:37.559 Did you know that it actually listed your growth? It 219 00:10:37.600 --> 00:10:38.799 said seventeen percent growth? 220 00:10:39.039 --> 00:10:41.600 Isn't it crazy? He loves big adventures. He's also a 221 00:10:41.639 --> 00:10:44.519 foodie and skilled cook. He's faithful the scripture, passionate about 222 00:10:44.519 --> 00:10:47.200 disciple making term of live with integrity, courage, and creativity. 223 00:10:48.399 --> 00:10:49.320 Okay, that's crazy. 224 00:10:49.320 --> 00:10:49.759 It knows me. 225 00:10:50.000 --> 00:10:50.720 It's crazy. 226 00:10:50.840 --> 00:10:53.000 I'm telling you it's going. 227 00:10:52.960 --> 00:10:53.519 To be our doom. 228 00:10:53.759 --> 00:10:56.080 It gave you one of those secret It gave you 229 00:10:56.080 --> 00:10:59.879 one of those politically correct answers. Doesn't what me spy 230 00:11:00.200 --> 00:11:04.039 on you. I'm not in spying on you, right right? Okay, okay, 231 00:11:04.080 --> 00:11:06.200 So back to this guy who asked big questions. It's 232 00:11:06.200 --> 00:11:08.480 in First Chronicles, chapter four. I'm gonna start reading in 233 00:11:08.559 --> 00:11:11.919 verse five, and it says Asher, the father Takoa had 234 00:11:11.919 --> 00:11:15.200 two wives named HeLa and Nahara. Naara gave birth to 235 00:11:15.879 --> 00:11:20.159 Who's m heath deem and I and ha ash Ah 236 00:11:20.360 --> 00:11:26.919 ha ha Stai. HeLa gave birth to zarath is Her 237 00:11:27.440 --> 00:11:30.919 eith Nan and Kas who became the ancestor of anub 238 00:11:31.639 --> 00:11:36.960 Zobaba and all the families a harra hal Al son 239 00:11:37.000 --> 00:11:43.080 of Harim who There was a man named Jabez who 240 00:11:43.200 --> 00:11:46.519 was more honorable than any of his brothers. His mother 241 00:11:46.600 --> 00:11:49.480 named him Jabez because his birth had been so painful. 242 00:11:50.240 --> 00:11:52.639 He was the one who prayed to the God of Israel, Oh, 243 00:11:52.679 --> 00:11:56.039 that you would bless me and expand my territory. Please 244 00:11:56.080 --> 00:11:58.039 be with me and all that I do, and keep 245 00:11:58.080 --> 00:12:00.639 me from all trouble and pain. And God granted him 246 00:12:00.639 --> 00:12:06.799 his requests. Keleb, the brother of Shahua or Shuha, was 247 00:12:06.840 --> 00:12:09.759 the father of me Her me Here was the father 248 00:12:09.919 --> 00:12:13.759 of Echhton. Eshton was the father of beth Rapha Pasah, 249 00:12:14.200 --> 00:12:19.919 and Tehina Tahina was the father of ir Nahash. These 250 00:12:19.919 --> 00:12:21.240 were the descendants of Recca. 251 00:12:22.399 --> 00:12:26.039 So so so am I I asked Jeff actually before 252 00:12:26.080 --> 00:12:28.519 the before the podcast started, I said, wouldn't it be 253 00:12:28.519 --> 00:12:33.279 fun for you to uh, for you to read some 254 00:12:33.399 --> 00:12:37.840 of the lineage verses, because the prayer of Jabez is 255 00:12:37.879 --> 00:12:42.440 actually found in the middle of this incredibly boring, yet 256 00:12:42.519 --> 00:12:45.879 I'm sure important for some reason to God. 257 00:12:46.399 --> 00:12:50.159 Well, it's important to lay out the the family lines 258 00:12:50.720 --> 00:12:52.759 because you have to be able to prove that Jesus 259 00:12:52.799 --> 00:12:53.720 was the son of Abraham. 260 00:12:53.960 --> 00:12:54.679 Is that what this does? 261 00:12:55.559 --> 00:12:59.240 What's that that? That's why all of the lineages exist 262 00:12:59.320 --> 00:13:01.200 in the Bible, is you have to prove that Jesus 263 00:13:01.240 --> 00:13:03.120 is the son of Abraham. Which these are all the 264 00:13:03.159 --> 00:13:04.759 sons of abraham family. 265 00:13:04.759 --> 00:13:07.279 I knew that was the lineage purposes in the two Gospels. 266 00:13:07.279 --> 00:13:10.639 Well this is that. That's the lineage of Judah. Those 267 00:13:10.639 --> 00:13:14.159 are the descendants of Judah right there. Okay, So then 268 00:13:14.720 --> 00:13:18.000 most of the lineages point to back to Abraham. A 269 00:13:18.000 --> 00:13:20.240 bunch of the lineage just point back to David. So 270 00:13:20.240 --> 00:13:21.600 he had to be the son of David. He had 271 00:13:21.600 --> 00:13:23.440 to be the son of Abraham. And so that's why 272 00:13:23.480 --> 00:13:25.879 they matter. So you and I don't know those names, 273 00:13:25.879 --> 00:13:28.799 but they matter because the prophecy was Jesus was going 274 00:13:28.840 --> 00:13:30.960 to be a son of Abraham and a son of David. 275 00:13:30.960 --> 00:13:33.559 You had to be able to directly tie them to both. Yeah, 276 00:13:33.679 --> 00:13:35.639 So Mary and Joseph were both part of the the 277 00:13:35.840 --> 00:13:41.200 the royal line of King David, and they were relatives 278 00:13:41.240 --> 00:13:42.000 of Abraham. 279 00:13:42.559 --> 00:13:45.840 So so right in the middle of this lineage with 280 00:13:45.879 --> 00:13:48.440 all these crazy names, that I asked Jeff to tackle, 281 00:13:48.480 --> 00:13:49.440 which is hilarious. 282 00:13:50.000 --> 00:13:52.440 That was so funny. That was one of that. That 283 00:13:52.480 --> 00:13:52.960 was one of these. 284 00:13:53.039 --> 00:13:53.600 It was hard. 285 00:13:53.759 --> 00:13:55.519 That was one of the hardest lineages ever. 286 00:13:56.639 --> 00:13:58.840 But right in the middle is this Prayer of Jabez 287 00:13:59.480 --> 00:14:03.840 in which really strange is that Jabez is They're like, oh, 288 00:14:03.840 --> 00:14:06.960 and then there was Jabez And by the way, Jabev 289 00:14:07.080 --> 00:14:09.240 was the guy that prayed this prayer and that God 290 00:14:09.279 --> 00:14:12.080 granted him his request And okay, now let's just move 291 00:14:12.120 --> 00:14:15.360 on with the rest of the lineage, right, And and 292 00:14:15.399 --> 00:14:18.120 that's one of the reasons why, I mean in our lifetime. 293 00:14:18.519 --> 00:14:20.480 When when was it It was like it was right 294 00:14:20.519 --> 00:14:25.159 around the late nineties where who was the author? Was 295 00:14:25.240 --> 00:14:29.039 it Bruce Wilkinson where he actually wrote a book called 296 00:14:29.080 --> 00:14:29.879 The Prayer of Jabez. 297 00:14:30.120 --> 00:14:32.600 Yes, and he just he just. 298 00:14:33.240 --> 00:14:34.279 Made two verses. 299 00:14:34.399 --> 00:14:37.159 He made a splash on the Christian community, that's for 300 00:14:37.279 --> 00:14:37.679 darn sure. 301 00:14:37.720 --> 00:14:39.240 Well it had a big impact on a lot of people, 302 00:14:39.480 --> 00:14:42.360 a lot, a really big impact. So there's there's thirteen 303 00:14:42.639 --> 00:14:47.039 pages of names. Wow, in the middle of thirteen pages 304 00:14:47.080 --> 00:14:50.919 and names, there's these two verses. Yeah, with thirteen pages 305 00:14:50.960 --> 00:14:51.840 and names, man. 306 00:14:51.799 --> 00:14:57.840 Yeah, and it lays out the fact that Jabez and 307 00:14:58.200 --> 00:15:01.600 asked this really a d kind of on the surface 308 00:15:01.639 --> 00:15:04.600 on a dacious prayer, and then God answers it, and 309 00:15:04.639 --> 00:15:06.240 he says God granted him his request, and then it 310 00:15:06.360 --> 00:15:06.840 just moves on. 311 00:15:07.600 --> 00:15:09.399 And so my wife. 312 00:15:09.120 --> 00:15:13.639 Actually bought me a big wooden, very expensive, I might add, 313 00:15:14.080 --> 00:15:17.320 wooden plaque, this big with the prayer of Jabez on it, to. 314 00:15:17.240 --> 00:15:17.879 Hang in my office. 315 00:15:17.879 --> 00:15:20.799 Oh yeah, it was carved in to this huge wooden plaque. 316 00:15:20.799 --> 00:15:21.399 I bet you was. 317 00:15:21.519 --> 00:15:23.200 I mean it had been one hundred and fifty bucks 318 00:15:23.279 --> 00:15:26.679 or something. And I hung at my office for years. 319 00:15:26.720 --> 00:15:30.000 But then afterwards I think I gifted to somebody, I 320 00:15:30.000 --> 00:15:31.639 think when I moved up to Michigan. 321 00:15:32.080 --> 00:15:35.000 But it was in my office for a very long time. 322 00:15:35.960 --> 00:15:38.679 Well, so the Bible says that Jabez was more honorable 323 00:15:38.720 --> 00:15:41.320 than any of his brothers. So the word honorable there, 324 00:15:41.320 --> 00:15:44.799 it's talking about he tried to honor God more than 325 00:15:44.840 --> 00:15:46.519 his brother. He was pursuing God, trying to do the 326 00:15:46.559 --> 00:15:52.759 right thing all the time. So and in that he 327 00:15:53.240 --> 00:15:57.279 comes to his comes to God and he says, you know, 328 00:15:57.639 --> 00:16:01.240 I'm asking you to bless me. I'm asking you to 329 00:16:01.320 --> 00:16:04.159 help me in my work by expanding my territory. Right, 330 00:16:04.879 --> 00:16:08.039 build out my find, be with me in everything that 331 00:16:08.080 --> 00:16:09.960 I do, and then keep me from any kind of 332 00:16:10.000 --> 00:16:14.159 harm around me. Right. And the Bible says, so God did. 333 00:16:15.279 --> 00:16:18.159 He answered all of his prayers. Right. God granted him 334 00:16:18.200 --> 00:16:21.480 his request. So it's not wrong to pray that God 335 00:16:21.519 --> 00:16:24.519 would bless us. I think is the big the big 336 00:16:24.559 --> 00:16:28.879 takeaway here that he decided God, You're my only source 337 00:16:28.919 --> 00:16:34.120 of hope to find blessing. You're my only source of hope, 338 00:16:34.120 --> 00:16:37.960 to find expansion in my work. You're the only source 339 00:16:38.000 --> 00:16:40.919 of hope I have to be protected from the difficult 340 00:16:40.919 --> 00:16:42.399 things that happened to everybody in life. 341 00:16:42.559 --> 00:16:45.200 R And for a while there, remember that song that 342 00:16:45.200 --> 00:16:48.759 went along with this, Father bless me. Indeed You're all 343 00:16:48.879 --> 00:16:54.480 that I need expand my horizons beyond what I see. 344 00:16:54.600 --> 00:16:56.519 That was the Prayerjudice song. 345 00:16:57.240 --> 00:16:58.759 So yeah, that was popular for a while at the 346 00:16:58.759 --> 00:17:01.720 same exact time as well. So yeah, I just definitely 347 00:17:02.440 --> 00:17:08.680 remember being completely inspired by by you know, I connected 348 00:17:08.680 --> 00:17:13.279 it to the prayer of Remember Jesus taught the prayer 349 00:17:14.039 --> 00:17:18.480 uh Basically basically, he in so many words challenge us 350 00:17:18.519 --> 00:17:24.319 to pray pray big. Remember, so Jesus himself said pray big, right, 351 00:17:24.480 --> 00:17:26.799 like like like just you know, don't be afraid to 352 00:17:26.880 --> 00:17:30.119 ask God for big things. And and so it's a 353 00:17:30.119 --> 00:17:33.880 biblical concept. It's not just a reference to you know, 354 00:17:33.960 --> 00:17:37.880 this man named Jabez. It's not this isolated thing that 355 00:17:38.000 --> 00:17:41.839 happened just to him. It is a It is attached to, 356 00:17:43.000 --> 00:17:47.559 you know, God's desire for us to dream big, pray big. 357 00:17:47.839 --> 00:17:50.680 And of course as long as our you know, desires 358 00:17:50.720 --> 00:17:53.160 line up in God's will and He's willing to grant us, 359 00:17:53.359 --> 00:17:56.039 grant us our request, then there's nothing wrong with with 360 00:17:56.039 --> 00:17:59.079 with those kinds of things. Because, after all, Jabez says, hey, 361 00:17:59.279 --> 00:18:02.000 you know you're you're the one that I want. You 362 00:18:02.000 --> 00:18:05.799 can tell that Jbez wants to honor God in this prayer, 363 00:18:05.920 --> 00:18:11.480 right right. Uh Well, actually, I guess I guess the 364 00:18:11.559 --> 00:18:14.240 only thing that that says that is he was honorable. 365 00:18:14.960 --> 00:18:17.240 It says he was honorable. Also says his mother named 366 00:18:17.279 --> 00:18:20.720 him Jabez because his birth of so painful, and the 367 00:18:20.759 --> 00:18:25.000 word in Hebrew jbez, sounds like a Hebrew word that 368 00:18:25.119 --> 00:18:28.720 means distress or pain. So those are two things we know. 369 00:18:29.079 --> 00:18:31.359 He was a pain to his mother, and he was 370 00:18:31.799 --> 00:18:33.279 more honorable than his brothers. 371 00:18:33.039 --> 00:18:35.559 Yeah, Well, I guess I guess what I was looking 372 00:18:35.599 --> 00:18:38.319 for was I was looking for a desire for God, 373 00:18:38.440 --> 00:18:40.160 and I guess it is in here. It says, please 374 00:18:40.200 --> 00:18:41.880 be with me in all that I do. 375 00:18:42.319 --> 00:18:45.079 Yeah, right, so there is. I think that the honorable 376 00:18:45.200 --> 00:18:49.400 is that too, Yeah, that's right right. That he's he's 377 00:18:49.440 --> 00:18:52.200 a part of the family of Judah, and so he's 378 00:18:52.240 --> 00:18:55.319 part of God's people. And I think that when you 379 00:18:55.359 --> 00:18:57.920 find that he's more honorable, I think that's what you're discovering, 380 00:18:57.960 --> 00:19:01.440 is that he's following God's ways in a better fashion 381 00:19:01.480 --> 00:19:04.640 than his brothers are. And then, but can you imagine 382 00:19:04.640 --> 00:19:06.880 being born with a name, given a name from the 383 00:19:06.960 --> 00:19:10.799 very get go just pain? How difficult that that would 384 00:19:10.839 --> 00:19:14.359 be in life? Right, to have a life, your whole life, 385 00:19:15.319 --> 00:19:21.960 your pain. And I think could have a real, almost 386 00:19:21.359 --> 00:19:26.640 a victimizing kind of of of view of your life. 387 00:19:27.200 --> 00:19:29.319 I'm just a pain to everybody, I'm just a bother 388 00:19:29.440 --> 00:19:30.599 to everybody. Whatever. 389 00:19:30.680 --> 00:19:33.200 And it could be that maybe he was given his 390 00:19:33.279 --> 00:19:35.599 lot in life based on those things. Yeah, which is 391 00:19:35.640 --> 00:19:38.079 one of the reasons why he prayed expand my territory. Yeah, 392 00:19:38.200 --> 00:19:40.440 help me to get out from underneath this. 393 00:19:40.400 --> 00:19:42.680 One hundred percent Yeah, Yeah, I think that's what he's asking. 394 00:19:42.720 --> 00:19:44.960 I think he's asking God, deliver me from these things 395 00:19:45.039 --> 00:19:47.680 and help me be everything I can be, help me 396 00:19:47.759 --> 00:19:49.960 be everything that you made me to be. That's I 397 00:19:50.000 --> 00:19:52.240 think what he's asking. So the Bible says that God 398 00:19:52.240 --> 00:19:54.759 opposes the proud, but he gives grace to the humble. 399 00:19:55.240 --> 00:19:57.799 And I think that this idea that he's honorable. I 400 00:19:57.839 --> 00:19:59.880 think that's what it is. Is he's humbling himself to 401 00:19:59.880 --> 00:20:03.440