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You're listening to the Bible Guys,
a podcast where a couple of friends talk

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about the Bible in fun in practical
ways. Hey, Jeff, good morning.

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Was that a late intro? Did
we wait like a second too long?

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I think we did? It was
the mystery, Yeah, it was

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just mysterious. People like, what
what what's going on? We were short

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there? We're actually talking to we're
talking during the role, which is a

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no, no, yes, we
should. We should be engaged. Okay,

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by the way, I am engaged. You are the well congratulations,

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thank you very much. You're going
on a date with your wife tonight.

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I am We's date night tonight.
We're going to see The Chosen. Oh

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nice, Part three release. It's
not really part three, it's whatever season

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we're in. Was it for I
don't know. It's a third part of

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season four? Yeah, oh good
for you. Yeah. Tons of fun,

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a lot of fun. Hey,
well today Jeff free Wow, yeah,

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Jeff, Only my mom calls me
Jeffrey, and that's when I'm in

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trouble. Okay, well, Jeffrey, Michael, it just came out.

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Yep. We're going to start with
a game, a segment called law or

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Flaw. Oh, those are fun. But this is the Old Testament version.

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Remember when you did the Old Testament
version of me. Yes, so

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Desiree has got some questions for you. Okay, here, so here here

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it is. Is it an Old
Testament law or is it a flaw?

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A flaw? Okay, okay,
are you ready? Yes? Number one,

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if a thief breaks in at night, the owner has the right to

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use lethal force law to defend their
homes. The law it is a lot.

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Yeah, Exodus twenty two, that's
correct. Okay. Number two,

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yep, you're allowed to defend yourself. Number two you cannot wear clothing made

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from wool and linen. That's a
law. That is a law that is

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true. Leviticus nineteen. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, those Yes, I

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don't know why. To be fair, those were two pretty easy ones.

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Yeah, I don't. I don't. I don't know why you're not allowed

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to do that back then, right, you're not. You weren't. It

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had been symbolic, right something,
because blending God did so many things that

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were It might have been about comfort. It might have been a comfort thing

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too. You think you think it's
practical. Yeah, when when back then,

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when you mixed different fabrics that made
those fabrics heavier and they didn't breathe

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as well, so like, so
it could have been I want what's best

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for you. If you go pure
cotton, you're going to be more comfortable,

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or I should not be uncomfortable.
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be uncomfortable. All right? Well, you know, hey, who knows?

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Number three? Homeowners are not allowed
to have strangers falling onto their roofs.

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That's a flaw. That's a law, onto their roofs, onto their

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roofs. Now, it's supposed to
be falling off of their roofs. I

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think that that was a mistake.
You want to look it up. Let's

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do it. Yeah, okay,
just like google it all right, deuteronomy

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or you know, yeah, use
version yeah, version Deuteronomy twenty two Bible.

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You don't use Deuteronomy. What twenty
two twenty two, verse verse eight?

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Yeah, what does it say?
It's gonna be about falling off?

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I tell you, when you build
a new house, you must build a

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railing around the edge of its flat
roof that you will not be considered guilty

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and murder if someone falls from the
roof. I knew that's what it was.

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So they build flat roofs, right, and then they would go up

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on there and use the flat roof
like a living room, like you and

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I did when we were in the
islands. That palmetal bug climbed up and

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bit you on the neck, that's
right. But they would use those those

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flat roofs as because we could go
up on the roof looking over top of

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the mangroves and see the ocean from
where we were at. So they would

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do the same thing because what was
up there besides the pal metal bug that

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bit you, what else was up
there? It was a breeze. Oh

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yeah, sure, right right,
So you get up above the town,

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you go there, And so they
would use their flat roofs like a like

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a living room. And so you
were required by God's law to put a

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railing around the flat roof so that
if somebody fell and died off your roof,

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you weren't guilty because you put up
some prevention. Well look at you.

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So I knew it. So the
way she worded it was a flaw.

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Yeah, there you go, you'll
fall onto your roof. They fell

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off of your roof, right right
right? Yeah? And well, hey,

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is it possible that somebody can fall
off a roof and land on another

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all right, number four, Number
four, you should not have in your

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bag two kinds of weights, a
large and a smethsala. That is a

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low. Yeah, that is a
lot. You'donomy twenty five, that's correct.

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And then finally last one a man. And by the way, that

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means you're four for four. Yeah. And that was a business thing.

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What they would do is they weight
out gold to pay for things, and

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so crooks would have lighter weights for
like for one hundred dollars, you'd have

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the heavy weight for when they paid
you. So that way, I mean

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a lightweight, so that when they
paid you, they paid you less.

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But then when you paid them,
they'd pull out of their bag the weight

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again, but it'd be a heavier
weight. And that way, when you

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paid them on the scale, you
had to put more gold on to pay

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them back. And and it looked
like the same It looked like the same

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weight, but they were filling it
full of lead or whatever to make it

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heavier on the scales of justice,
yes, yeah, yeah, And so

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that's that's what that now that one
I had no idea of why the two

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weights. That totally makes sense.
All right, Number five here it is,

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and again just as a reminder,
you're four for four. There's no

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pressure here, jet all right,
no pressure, okay, because you're you're

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about to get an A plus or
nothing. That one five one out of

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five is B B minus four out
of five or one out of five,

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meaning can you miss it? I'm
not going to miss it, though.

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Okay, here we go. A
man shall pour oil onto his offering of

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barley flower. That's a law.
It says, it's a flaw, is

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it really? It says, which, by the way, what a clever

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thing for for offering barley oil.
But she did four and then one.

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It was a gotcha at the end. Uh huh. A man I'll pour

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oil onto his offering of barley flower. Huh, he's saying. She's saying,

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no way. There were pouring offerings
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I guess not barley flowers. She
says, no way. But well she

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knows because she's the one who picked
it. Of course, I don't know.

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Can we trust a person who says
fall onto a roof and that was

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just you know what, That wasn't
a mind thing. That was probably a

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keyboard typing thing, right, that's
where that was. Okay, Well,

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I'm just saying, all right,
well I'll take four for five. Hey,

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wouldn't it be funny if she copied
and pasted it from some website and

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it was actually the person who did
the website's fault or AI or AI's fault.

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Yeah, you can't trust everything that
happens on the internet. No,

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yeah, we'll not true anyways,
so we're giving desra the benefit of doubt.

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Yeah, good job, Desrae.
All Right, buddy, Well today

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we are launching into Jesus being led
away to be crucified. Yeah, so

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we don't have a lot of verses
to read today, right, but uh,

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this is kind of packed with a
lot of interesting things. So from

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a devotional standpoint, this should be
a movie moment because the event itself is

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heading towards the most significant thing that's
ever happened in human history. Right,

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and John is the only one that
doesn't include this portion of chronological events.

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Yeah, Matthew, Mark and Luke
are doing their thing together again. Right,

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Okay, so we will read Matthew
chapter twenty seven, Mark fifteen,

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and Luke twenty three and Matthew twenty
seven. It says along the way they

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came across a man named Simon who
was from Syrene, and the soldiers forced

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him to carry jesus cross all in
one verse. There you go. In

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Mark chapter fifteen, verse twenty one, it says a passer by named Simon,

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who was from Syrene, was coming
from in from the countryside just then,

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and the soldiers forced him to carry
the cross. Simon was the father

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of Alexander and Rufus. And then
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six through thirty one, it says
as they led Jesus away, a man

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named Simon, who was from Syrene, happened to be coming in from the

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countryside. The soldiers seized him and
put the cross on him and made him

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carry it behind Jesus. A large
crowd trailed behind, including many grief stricken

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women. But Jesus turned and said
to them, daughters of Jerusalem, don't

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weep for me, but weep for
yourselves and for your children. For the

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days are coming when they will say
fortunate. Indeed are the women who are

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childless, the wombs that have not
born a child, and the breasts that

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have never nursed. People will beg
the mountains fall on us and plead with

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us, plead with the hills Bury
us for if these things are done when

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the green For if these things are
done when the tree is green, what

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will happen when it is dry?
Wow? So a lot of things.

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One, hey, shout out for
North Africa, right, because that's where

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that's where Simon was from. So
that's kind of cool. And do you

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know where side what country Sirreene was
in a modern day country? I do

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not know. But have you ever
heard have you ever Billy Graham talked about

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this? No? Are you kidding
me? No, I'm not kidding.

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I'm just kidding. No, I
don't know Simon of Syene, Simon of

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Sirene. Excuse me, look at
us. We're both on our phones.

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I know we're looking stuff up.
Oh Libya, Sirene is in modern day

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Libya. So Billy Graham talks about
the man carrying his cross? Tell you

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what? Why don't you give me
like twenty seconds just a little bit?

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So so riff what had other things
to say? And to make it up,

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scoopy doop. I don't know what
you want me to do, scoopy,

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scoopy. So anyways, the uh
uh, the tradition or the rule

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for Romans when they were going to
crucify somebody, is that they would take

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the cross beam and they would they
would make that the the person who's going

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to be crucified carry that through the
streets. And it was a sign of

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shame. It's very heavy, it
was very difficult to do. And then

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you add to the fact that in
Jesus' case, this would not normally be

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the case. But in Jesus case, he'd been beat thirty nine times with

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what the Bible would describes as a
cat of nine tails and lethal. Forty

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was considered lethal, and so thirty
nine lashings, he's almost beat to death,

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and then they put this crossbeam on
him to walk through the city.

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It's inconvenient, it's uncomfortable, it's
shameful. The crowds are big, everybody's

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bumping around on him, and he
just couldn't carry it all the way.

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And so it's in that case that
then finally the Roman soldiers turned to Simon,

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because they can compel anybody to do
anything, right just about Roman soldiers

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compel Simon to carry this thing.
So Roman soldiers could compel you to carry

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a burden for a specific distance valent
of like not a mile, but in

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our minds, you know, like
a mile, so you couldn't go.

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They couldn't compel you to go more
than a mile, and but they could

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compel you to go. That's one
of the reasons why they believe that the

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Golgatha was right barely outside the city
walls, because the distance from where you

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would have had to walk from Pilot's
palace to any of those places where they

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would have been crucifying was just inside
those limits on distance. So yeah,

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so they stopped the way, make
this African man carry the cross, which

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is why Jesus said, if anybody
forces you to go one mile, go

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to Yeah. Yeah, that's that
lines up, by the way. So

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this this scene, by the way, is it is very popular. It's

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just a very quick I mean,
it's just a few seconds. But I

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figured why not play an audio Billy
Graham because it is extremely inspiring and and

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and and and he says, don't
you He starts off by saying, and

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don't you black people forget one thing? And then at first you're like,

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what what is he saying? Right? And then you listen to it and

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you're like, this is amazing.
Okay, all right, so let me

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see when you get here. And
don't you black people ever forget one thing.

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The man that helped Jesus carry that
cross was a black man. And

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don't ever forget another thing. Jesus
belongs to Africa as much as he does

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to Europe and Asia. He was
born in that part of the world that

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touches Africa and Asia and Europe.
And Jesus was not a white man like

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me, nor was he as black
as some of you. We don't know

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what the color of his skin,
but it must have been a dark color

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like the people of his day,
because he was a man like them.

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Don't ever say it's a white man's
religion or a black man's religion. It's

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a world religion. He belongs to
the world. And isn't that unbelievably inspired.

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I have heard that he pre sat
in Chicago, did he? Yeah?

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Yeah, yeah, I mean it's
just incredibly inspiring. It's like only

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Billy Craham could deliver like a statement. And you're like, that is one

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of the best statements ever. Yeah, yeah, Well that is always an

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amazing thing to me. That Israel
is right there on the edge of the

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three major global continents, right,
and so the only ones you're missing would

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be down towards Australia and over in
South America, but for the mass majority

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of humanity throughout history, Jesus came
from the crossroads of those three continents,

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right, So anyways, the Bible
also mentions here only in Mark, that

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Simon was the father of Alexander and
Rufus, which is kind of an interesting

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thing. Alexander, that's kind of
a cool name. Sure, you know,

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Alexander conquered the whole world, not
that Alexander, but clearly he was

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not well because this is substantially after
Alexander the Great. But he was probably

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named after Alexander the Great, right, So that city, Sirene in Libya

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was a major city for the Greek
Empire and then for the Roman Empire,

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so it was a trading city right
on the coast. So that's probably why

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he got the name Alexander. But
can you imagine having your brother have the

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name of one of the coolest people
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and then your dad goes, I
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gonna call you Rufus, right right, But by the way, Rufus is

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mentioned in Romans, So I think
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father of Alexander. Rufus was because
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the church. Later on, so
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but Rufus specifically is mentioned in Romans
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that the reason why they would be
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Well, they had just come in
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know that they were Christians then,
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the countryside. They're with their dad. Well, perhaps this might have been

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if it is the same, this
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have been that moment, right,
yeah, right, which is so they

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followed let's play this out a bit
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the rest of the way. They
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which then included the shaking that were
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read them all the things that are
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to come in the next few days. But but the earthquake and then the

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Roman centurion. Surely this is the
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Maybe perhaps standing around hearing the stories
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a major conversion moment for that.
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there was no TV back then,
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us, it was a common thing. Executions were public entertainment. Right.

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So here's their dad, who seems
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coming to Rusalem to celebrate Passover.
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is it for us to remember how
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our children as we bring them along
in our faith. A lot of times,

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you know, parents will say,
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not bring my kids to this church
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expect them to be a part of
what I'm doing here. It was expected

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of a good Jewish dad to bring
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of the sons to go along with
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thing. And it was in that
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event in his life that he had
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his sons. His sons were there, and you know, that's my story.

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My dad came to faith in Christ
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little track to a little Bible message
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at General Motors. And over the
next couple of weeks, God just convicted

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my dad. He gave his life
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to church, and then not long
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I just wonder about that that in
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and says, hey, you carry
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impact that had on his sons.
Right with this encounter with Jesus, that

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Simon had transformed his sons, and
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church to where Paul mentions them later
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a neat moment to see, and
it's just one of those little tiny details.

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It's incidental, but it's just in
passing it's mentioned. So there's a

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note in the Life Application Study Bible
that says Luke alone mentions the teams of

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Jewish women while Jesus was being led
through the streets to his execution, he

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just told them not to weep for
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knew in about forty years Jerusalem and
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Then in Versi Nuber thirty one,
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read it, it says, for
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is green, what will happen when
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right here about that, it says
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it means that if the innocent Jesus, which is representative of the green tree,

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suffered at the hands of the Romans, what would happen to the guilty

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Jews or the dry tree. That's
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when I heard it at face value, I was like, I don't know

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what that means. Yeah, I
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I've always heard that it's talking about
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while Jesus was there, right,
he was the last life, the last

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opportunity to step a step up to
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he left Jerusalem for the most part, rejected the religious system based out of

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Jerusalem rejected Jesus. So we know
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the religious system rose up and attacked
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it was live while Jesus was there, And then it was how much worse

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is it going to be if,
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if while God's presence on earth is
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How bad is it going to be
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dries up? And of course we
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years later, they just the Romans
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AD they tore it down, and
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wall remains. And the number of
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of thousands, right it was.
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it was tens of thousands of citizens
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Romans in that moment. So that's
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the days are coming on to say
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right is because the only thing worse
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a Roman soldier, would be watching
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Jesus is saying there right, So
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Oh, how sad it is that
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hey, ladies, it's going to
get way worse here. So that's

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what happened there. But what an
amazing thing. I mean, it's a

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sad time, but it's also even
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death, and he has compassion for
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right and by the way, as
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that we planned this perfectly to end
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that was happening. We knew that
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were looking for a series, and
you know, we said, hey,

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what sort of you know theme should
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Guys, we were just considering all
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jumped out of us was, let's
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Jesus's life, which gave us almost
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been in this series for like over
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a long time, and here it
is coming to an end, and it's

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appropriate that it ends here atas Yah. Yeah, it's just crazy. So

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well, hey, that is our
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and pick up you know, where
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on the Bible guys. Mm hmmmmh
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