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You're listening to the Bible guys,
a podcast where a couple of friends talk

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about the Bible in fun, in
practical ways. Welcome to the Bible,

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guys. We are very glad that
you have decided to listen to Yes.

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Yes, it's the highlight of our
morning that you or day evening yes,

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or deep in the night, which
is hey. We've had people literally tell

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us absolutely that you decided to join
us. They work out of the twenty

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four hour gym, right and this
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Yes, or us right now?
That's right. Well, didn't know

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they're listening to you and none.
None of my friends are in the gym

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in the morning. None of my
friends. So today we are revisiting a

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very familiar sem It's the most important
segment, quite honestly, in this show.

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It's the reason why people tune in. But I think that's it hoping.

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In fact, they just skipped from
Friday to just They are just hoping

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that maybe today is the day that
we get to find out what made Chris

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madd None of this is true,
by the way, it is true,

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It is not true. It's the
only reason I show up. No that's

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not true. I got out my
thought, I'm going to the studio today.

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No, you're with me every workday. Oh well, so you already

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know things that make me mad.
So let me go ahead and say this.

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Oftentimes when I get mad, I
get mad on behalf of the public.

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Yes, it's incredibly noble. Yes, it is so noble. I

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don't get mad just for me,
not for you, not for you.

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It's it's for us little people.
You're like, you're like, not for

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you, not for you. Okay, So you love us, you love

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us, and you get irate I
have for us. Yes, I have

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two examples of one topic that happened
to me back to back just this week.

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And and here's the bottom line.
If you're a restaurant owner and you

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in a restaurant, just do better
on the menu options, do better.

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Just do better, because what ended
up happening was, first of all,

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I went to a Mexican restaurant with
my son, and I'm like, hey,

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can I do substitutions? I want
to. I don't want to order

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all three of my tacos with this
meat three chicken tacos or three beef tacos

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yea or l pastore or whatever it
is, because they still have the meats

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in the back. So I'm like, can I just get one of each?

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And they're like, no substitutions,
no substitutions. And then I tried

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different combos and I'm like, what
about this is like no substitutions. And

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you know Mexican restaurant, it's all
the same ingredients. So there's like a

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billion things on the menu. So
they said no substitution in things, and

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it's it's various conversations of either flo
flour or corn right tortillas and then combinations

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of beans, rice, approaching cheese, proteins. That's it. Yes,

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that's audio, yes and so and
so basically, uh, but but no

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substitution, no substitutions, substitutions for
you, yes, And I'm just I'm

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like, just do the math,
Like if you own the store, do

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the math. That's it. Just
just say, yeah, of course we

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can give you three tacos. Why
because we have the proteins in the back.

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We could easily do that for you
if we just did the math.

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If they said that's a three dollars
up charge, would you have still ordered

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it? Of course? Of course
yes. And so they missed an opportunity.

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Yes, they're leaving money at the
table. Do you want to say

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the name of the joking, because
that would be rude. It was granted

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as Teca. I like that place. Oh, I love that. I

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love it. It's our favorite mess
REUSSI. But no, but no substitution,

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no substitutions. And then, uh, this happened to me literally just

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yesterday. I was with a buddy, uh in a sushi restaurant and uh,

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and this is just a side note. Uh, the server did not

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ask me if I want a dessert, which, you know, just as

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a side note. You know,
I'm thinking, hey, if you own

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a restaurant, make sure you train
your servers to try to upsell the person.

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But for some reason, I don't
really get the desert. But I

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was in the mood and I said, can I see your dessert menu?

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And this is after she brought the
ill, right, and I'm like,

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can I see the ressert menu?
So she brings it. And here's here's

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my complaint. There was only two
desserts offered, first of all, and

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that's that's a shame. But if
they're too fantastic, dessert crime almost it's

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in my book. Two desserts is
a crime all ready for this. They

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were both fried. They said,
we offer you fried ice cream, We

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offer you fried like egg roll,
something something something and I and I said,

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wait a minute, the only two
desserts you offer are fried because there's

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a lot of people that don't need
fried stuff, right, especially people who

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today's day and age, there's a
lot people are going to shy away from

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that. And so I said,
well, you have the ice cream in

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the back, because I know you
do because you fry it. No substitution,

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no substitution for you. No,
it must be fried. I'm like,

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I'm like, can you just just
bring me out the ice cream?

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Wow? Here's what she said.
She and by the way, to her

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credit, she was agreeing with me. She goes, I know, I

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keep on telling them, you know, I can't believe everybody's disappointed that there's

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only two fried options. I said, we'll just bring me the ice cream

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because because that I love ice cream. And she said, we don't have

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a way to ring that up.
And here's what I said, Well,

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then I'll order the fried ice cream
minus the fry, right, and just

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charge me for it. And she
says, no, I don't think we

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can do that? Why? Right? Exactly? So this is this is

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what made Chris Matt well, you
need to call the manager over at that

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point. This is what I want
to do. I want to pay you

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for all of it, but I
want some of it. It's not that

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hard for all of it. I
probably want some of it. So you

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benefit in this equation, right,
just give me the ice cream, dispatch

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the ice cream and so this no
substitution's rule is you are irate about it

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on our behalf? Yes, just
do better on your menu. You know

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why, because your menu should reflect
flexibility based on the ingredients that you already

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have. Oh, yes, you
already have it in the back. Yes

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you're not. I'm not asking for
somebody. So did you buy a dessert?

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No you didn't. No money again, left money on the table.

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Right, So I thank you,
Chris on behalf of all of our listeners.

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I want to thank you, yes
for bearing that burden for us.

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Yes, well, I'm angry for
all the customers. Thank you that want

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what they want. We can't.
This is America. We can't thank you

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enough. Yes, you're welcome,
thank you, thank you. We feel

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loved. It's like every Friday,
you know why, we love the segment

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Every Friday feels like you hug us. You just collectively hug about a thousand

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people and say I love you people, and I've got you back. I'm

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protecting you. Every time I complain
from a hug, that's the first in

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my life, it's because it's not
for you. That's right, You're not

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complaining for you. I'm complaining on
behalf of the world. I just care

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about the person that comes in after
me that wants just ice cream because you

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don't care for yourself. No,
no, I do care for me,

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but I get angry for the world. Yes, thank you, thank you,

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Yes, okay, welcome. Those
really are my favorite segments. I

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love I love just busting your jo. It's really funny, really funny.

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It is a big hug. It
is. That's a big, big collective

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hug for all of our listeners.
He really loves you, guys. If

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you're sitting there wondering, Chris,
does he loves you? I do,

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Jesus, so do I. Okay, So Genesis chapter twelve, we're gonna

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get into kind of a weird story. So God, It's yeah, it's

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a little unusual, sort of like
a uh, it's a fallibility. It's

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it shows Abram's humanity. Well,
it's only the second story about Abram.

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First story is wow, this guy
must be super special, right, God

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chose him right, and says,
I'm gonna make a great nation from you,

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and I'm gonna bless those who bless
you and curse those who curse you,

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and You're gonna be a blessing to
the whole world. And you go,

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wow, this guy must be like
Saint Abram. Right, And the

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very next story goes like this in
Genesis chapter twelve, verse ten. At

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that time, a severe famine struck
the land of Canaan, forcing Abram to

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go down to Egypt, where he
lived as a foreigner. As he was

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approaching the border of Egypt, Abram
said to his wife Sarah, Look,

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you're a very beautiful woman. When
the Egyptians see you, they'll say this

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is his wife. Let's kill him
and then we can have her. So

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please tell them that you're my sister. Then they'll spare my life and treat

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me well because of their interest in
you. Sure enough, when Abram arrived

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in Egypt, everyone noticed Sarah's beauty. Sarah is beauty. When the palace

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officials saw her, They sang her
praises to Pharaoh the king, and Sarah

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was taken into his palace. Then
Pharaoh gave Abram many gifts because of her

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sheep, goats, cattle, male
and female donkeys, male and female servants,

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and camels. But the lord sent
terrible plagues upon Pharaoh in his household

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because Sarah Abram's wife. So Pharaoh
summoned to Abraham and accused him. Sharply,

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what have you done to me?
He demanded, Why didn't you tell

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me she was your wife? Why
did you say she's my sister and allow

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me to take her as my wife? Now, then here is your wife,

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Take her and get out of here. And Pharaoh ordered some of his

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men to escort them, and he
sent Abram out of the country along with

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his wife and all his possessions.
That's a weird story. Yeah, Pharaoh

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ordered some of his men to escort
them, and he sent Abram out of

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the country along with his wife and
all his possessions. He allowed him to

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keep his possessions, keep all the
stuff he took. Yeah, it seems

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to indicate that, doesn't y Yeah, yeah, so does give me the

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possessions that he walked in with so
if you remember, he left er and

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Haran with all of his wealth.
That says that, and with all the

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people. So he was already a
wealthy male, okay, and then Pharaoh

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made him wealthier with more sheep,
goats, cattle, male and female donkeys,

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male and female servants, and camels. So Pharaoh just enriched him even

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more. And then when he sends
himway, sends him away with all of

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it. Yeah, and uh,
and what's so interesting is that, uh,

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it says, it says immediately,
uh, it never says anything about

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a wife until the end. It
says, when the palace officials saw her,

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they singer praises Pharaoh. Then Pharaoh
gave Abraham many gifts because of her.

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Didn't say to have her as his
wife, but apparently that's what he

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did. He married her. Pharaoh
married her because he says he gave he

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gave Pharaoh Abram many gifts because of
her sheep, goats, donkeys, And

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then at the end he says,
why did you say to her she's my

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sister, and allow me to take
her as my wife. So Pharaoh married

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Abram's wife there for a minute.
Yeah, and then and then when he

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found out, he was like dude, what is your problem? Yeah?

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Right, because Abram was going as
a foreigner into a foreign land. He's

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going down in Egypt. He was
scared for himself, and what a weird

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line of thinking. But it turns
out that Pharaoh would have thought the opposite.

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Pharaoh's explaining here that had you just
told me you were her wife or

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husband, then I wouldn't have done
any of these things. Right, So

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he really just believed he did fear, which is what we do sometimes,

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right, We make bad choices because
we start to rehearse things that haven't happened

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yet, we start to guess how
it's gonna turn out. We wind up

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making bad choices on that, right, Yeah, and that's what that's what

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happens here. So he's acting out
of fear, and he asks her to

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tell it half truth because she was
his stepsister, right, So Sarah,

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Sarah is Abram's stepsister and wife and
his wife. So he marries his stepsister,

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and so he's like, hey,
don't say because they might kill me.

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They'll kill me. They're gonna take
you anyways, so let's not do

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that. And instead he winds up
enriching Abram and take Sarah and then they

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wind up having a terrible plague.
They said, the Lord sent terrible plagues,

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so it's plural plagueold, look at
us breezing over that. Ye.

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So this is like God's power unleashed
on Pharaoh. And somehow this was a

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conversation that you have to sort of
read between the lines. So it says

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God sends plagues. Well, how
did Pharaoh know that the plagues were from

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God? About Abram? Right,
So there must have been some sort of

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like, hey, since you came
into town, there's plagues, can you

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tell us about this? And Abram
then probably had this time of confession because

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now Pharaoh knows the truth. He
had to know the truth somehow, right,

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and he only knew the truth through
them, right. This is such

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a weird thing. It seems at
the honest face, it seems a little

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out of his character because he's very
smart and he uses intelligence, so he

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trusts God. He's a wealthy man. He trusts God. He packs up

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and leaves home and goes where he
doesn't even know where he's heading yet.

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He goes to Canaan, and when
he arrives there, not long after he

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sets up. He sets up an
altar worships God. And then a famine

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comes and for a lot of people, they'd start questioning, well, maybe

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I didn't hear from God. Let's
just go home, let's quit. And

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he doesn't. And instead he sits
there and he thinks a minute, and

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he goes, okay, you know, he uses his intelligence and he goes,

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there's food in Egypt. We'll just
let's shoot down there real quick.

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We'll get some food. We'll be
okay. Right, So he didn't give

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up on his mission. He went
further from home because he wasn't going to

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leave God's plan. So he has
this faith God's going to provide. He

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has intelligence to be able to work
out a problem and solve it. And

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you know, from that area,
from that area down to what would be

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like say modern day Cairo, although
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but it is only like three hundred
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you know the way that a bird
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of zigzag in order to get where
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it's just he he didn't have to
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days journey in a couple of weeks, he gets down there and then he

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gets scared. It doesn't make sense
that this doesn't make sense. It didn't

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scare you to leave home. For
us, it doesn't make sense. It

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doesn't scare you to leave the source
of your wealth. That doesn't make sense

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to me, right. It doesn't
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months and months on a journey that
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with people that are hostile towards towards
outsiders. It doesn't scare you to follow

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God there the famine comes. The
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famine, right, right, But
he's just well, he just he solves

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the problem pretty easily, right,
But he could have been we would that's

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us filling in the gaps there.
So instead he just faces this problem as

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another issue and he goes on and
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say he was afraid of Pharaoh,
which is weird. How you can sometimes

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have circumstances come up. You're not
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are very intimidated by other people.
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of Pharaoh. Yeah, so,
so I have a different view of this

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entirely. I I uh so,
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Whereas like and I know that it's
it's I know that the Chosen is

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wonderful thing that I've been watching,
and I know the Chosen is not based

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on Gospel. It's it's almost it's
what is it called they take, They

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take liberty, poetic license. You
know, this could or could not have

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happened. So there's a lot of
cool things that happens that you know,

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you're just like, oh, that's
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and you understand that, you know, there's a lot of that is not

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based on they just sort of supposed
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point is this one thing that the
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inserted context and emotion to such a
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you remember how like when Peter threw
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know, so what they did is
they created this this scenario where he had

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to have fish or else he was
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in trouble. And so then then
when he pulled it in net in it

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meant more and all of a sudden, there's emotion attached to it. There,

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you know, the woman at the
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they had given him a little bit
of background. They took liberty to

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create this. Mary healed with the
seven demons. They explored her. They

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took liberty to explore this, so
that when she was healed, it was

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so much more emotional than when you
read on the text, And so it's

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just unbelievable. Well then also along
with that they created like joy and fear

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and frustration and crying and things like
this. And so it's easy for us

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to judge or look on paper and
say, see, he wasn't he wasn't

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fearful here? Why was he fearful
there? But you don't know what it's

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like when when you walk into Egypt. You don't know what he experienced.

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So I could just almost imagine,
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inserting my different perspective. I could
almost imagine it like a movie shocker,

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And I could just I could see
something him walking into a foreign land and

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seeing detestable practices or seeing you know, he wasn't maybe he wasn't treated well,

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or maybe they were looking at him. Maybe maybe he was walking through

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the city and he felt them judging
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with the wives there where he just
thought immediately, oh, no, like

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because of my wife's beauty, I
know exactly what's going to happen, right,

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based on the rumors, based on
there's so much there that we don't

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know that. You know, if
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and we believe that he's a good
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him even more credit to say there
must have been a reason why he went

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down this path, and maybe if
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have done the same thing. Yeah, that's sort of what I That's where

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my brain goes, Sure, well, absolutely, it's you know, not

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unreasonable for us to say, hey, we likely would have been as intimidated

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as him. It's just surprising sometimes
when you see a person who has a

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long pattern of doing the right thing
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All the other ones they were circumstances, but this one was a person,

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and he was easily intimidated by this
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thing that surprises me is, you
know, it seems like famine is a

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worse thing than coming up against a
person or leaving home where you built all

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your wealth. Seems to be a
bigger issue than a person, right.

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But for him, man, that's
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of Egypt at that time. And
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you're saying has a lot of merit
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that he's going to be the father
of many nations, yes, that means

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he's going to not be killed by
Pharaoh, right, He's going to survive

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it, that's right, right,
So why not believe in the promise that

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God gave yes, all the promises
led him all the way there, yes,

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and then now he's doubting the promise. So there is definitely that side

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to it. That's the weird part
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can be scary and when you get
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what would be Thebes or you know, I've been in Cairo. I've been

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in those places. Some of the
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about two thousand BC, right,
And so at that time it's hard to

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name a capital like we would call
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day Cairo that would have been a
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Memphis would have both been centers for
government. So it just depends on what

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the weather was like and where they
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there exceeded anything that was being built
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other than maybe of the Caldi's right
there, Babylon area. But it

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was just magnificent. And so yeah, then you could kind of get sucked

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into the pomp and circumstance. We
know how the Egyptians had all this formality

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and the gold and the two thousand
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administrative center of the world at the
time. So I understand that part of

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it. But yeah, you're right, he went there with the promise that

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God is going to make a great
nation from him. Dude, you can't

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be killed. You're literally bulletproof.
Do you have any kids yet? No,

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guess what, you're a bulletproof.
But listen, there's another sermon in

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here though, because because then it
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maybe this is maybe my cunning intelligence
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Maybe that maybe that's the way that
God's going to preserve Sure, sure,

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because God always bless half truth,
right right, right, But that's what

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he did. And I think,
you know, sometimes we can be too

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slick for our own good, right, as opposed to just keep doing what

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you're supposed to do. So it
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to go, hey, there's a
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Egypt. Let's just shoot down there
a little while. And he went further

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from home, which sent the message
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He didn't go back the way he
came, He went further south, right,

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I'm still trusting God, I'm going

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to go back to the Promised Land
when after we eat. I think he

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was very very strategic there, and
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There's difference. Sometimes we can be
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happens here. So there's a really
great note Genesis chapter twelve, in the

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Life Applications stead of Bible, it
says Abram, acting out of fear,

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asked Sarah to tell a half truth
by saying she was his sister. She

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was his half sister, we know
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was also his wife. Abram's intent
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that if they knew the truth,
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She would have been a desirable addition
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beauty, and her potential for political
alliance. As Sarah's brother, Abram would

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have been given a place of honor, but as her husband, his life

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would be in danger because Sarah could
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So Abram lost faith in God's protection, even after all God had promised

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him and told a half truth.
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Lying usually compounds the effects of sin. Yeah, there's a great sermon there,

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too, great. And it's almost
amazing that Pharaoh allowed him to live

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and to leave. Yeah, right, because the plugs were so bad.

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He's like, hey, this guy's
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not touching it, right, or
Russian power for ju Yeah, Yeah,

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all I did was take his wife
and innocently right, and in their world,

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Hey, it's just a woman.
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his wife accidentally, and all these
plays come out. Come on me,

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what's gonna happen if I actually killed
this man? All the plagues will just

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never end, right, right?
That I think that was it is because

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the Pharaohs thought they were gods,
so did the people. And here's God

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squaring off with Pharaoh, just afflicting
him with plagues, and he's learned the

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lesson, going, I'm not gonna
mess with Abram, right, So there

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is there is that, but hey, and also, hey, let's give

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it up to Abram. Right,
Sarah is pretty right, that's right that

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Pharaoh went, wow, right,
I gotta have her. Yeah, And

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and and neighborham knew it right because
going into town, he's like, yeah,

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I'm dating, I'm married to a
supermodel, and he's gonna steal her

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from me. So there's this this
issue that whole idea we're making jokes about

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the fact that men are trading in
women, that that's a horrible thing,

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right, that there is this this
this property kind of mentality. From this

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point on, for the most part, you see Abraham and Sarah or Abraham

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and Sarah their partners. Right,
even even in doing the wrong thing this

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time, they do it again another
time later where they where their partners in

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this uh in in doing the wrong
thing. But you don't find Sarah in

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Abraham like Abraham lording over Sarah,
although she did call him with respect,

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but you see them working together.
But in this one, it was almost

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like he shifted to the mindset of
the Egyptian world, which is she's property,

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right, right, So don't get
me killed. You're not worth dying

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for. That's literally the message this
man sent to his wife is you're not

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worth dying for. And so I'm
gonna go ahead and risk it. You're

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gonna go in Pharaoh's harem. And
uh. That's that's a pretty horrible,

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horrible moment in his life. Yeah, and so Abraham again, it's it's

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one of those things where even though
it's so bad, it reminds us that

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God always has and always will continue
to use broken people for great things.

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That's the whole reason why this story
is in here. I think, right,

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yeah, yeah, God's going to
use you. And so if you

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think you're a person, you're like, oh, but Chris, you don't

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know my thoughts. You don't know
what I've done or my tendencies and I've

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always failed and I promise God and
I mess up and all these different things

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that are so discouraging about you know, who you are versus who you wish

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you could be. For God,
just know this, that God that never

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winks at our sin, He never
you know, you know, just you

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know, It's not like sin doesn't
have a consequences, severe consequences. Abraham

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almost does die here because of this, and yeah, God doesn't just blow

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off our sins. However, God
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a broken person to do great things. And so Abraham goes on this journey

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with God. And even in the
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his brokenness and his humanity right here, God just still continues the bust.

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does sacrifices where he's constantly making sure that

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God understands that he's repentant of his
sin. It comes up again multiple times

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after this where his relationship with God
was important. This was a bad moment

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in his life, but it doesn't
define his life, and God only has

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sinners to work with, and so
what he's looking for is teachable, humble,

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repentant sinners, not people who go
on and continue to indulge in these

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sins. People who repent of their
sins, turned to God, and then

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he continues to use them. So
God puts the story right at the very

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beginning of the story of Abram,
so that we can understand he doesn't have

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any perfect people to work with,
and he can work with us too.

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That's great. Yeah, well,
that is a great place to end.

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And so hopefully we will see you
on Monday on the Bible. Guys,