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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun in

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<v Speaker 1>practical ways. Good morning, good morning, we talk do good moaning,

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<v Speaker 1>good moan to.

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<v Speaker 2>You and you and you.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, that's a way to kick off on Monday.

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<v Speaker 3>That is fantastic. I mean, what better way to start

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<v Speaker 3>the week?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what? I was just I'm wondering if there

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<v Speaker 2>is one, Jeff.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think there is. I don't think there is.

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<v Speaker 2>That is fabulous, fabulous, fabulous.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, today we are, first of all, welcome to the

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<v Speaker 1>Bible Guys, and today we're going to kick off with

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<v Speaker 1>a segment the Desirae has been.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, this I.

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<v Speaker 1>Think is my favorite segment is I think so really

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<v Speaker 1>I look forward to it, you know how, like you

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<v Speaker 1>wonder if it?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, let me ask you this, would you rather do it?

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<v Speaker 3>Would you rather? Or what made Chris mad this week?

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<v Speaker 2>I think I would rather do it? Would you rather?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>Wow?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Well there's there's an going for you. I'm feeling

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<v Speaker 3>magnanimous and generous.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, the end of this week, it is

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<v Speaker 1>U make christmad this week and I'm already ready it

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<v Speaker 1>happened days early.

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<v Speaker 3>You're ready, ready and rare in to go. Okay, well

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<v Speaker 3>here we go.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So would you rather I'll go the first one.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you rather rock an ugly Christmas sweater or wear

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<v Speaker 1>a company matching holiday pajamas for your family Christmas gathering?

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<v Speaker 3>Family Christmas gathering? Is this extended family or.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, that's a great question.

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe maybe it'll apply to your traditional family gathering.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you if you always get together with your

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<v Speaker 1>extended apply it to that.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, then I would rock an ugly Christmas sweater because.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what you do, you get together with your extended family.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, so I would rather do the pajamas.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I would imagine, Well, because it's because you're not

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<v Speaker 3>doing the extended family. You're doing the no no.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, we go home? You'd rather do we

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<v Speaker 2>do like sixty people? Okay, it's huge, but yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>would not rather do pajamas.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay. Would you rather build a snowman or have a

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<v Speaker 3>snowball fight?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you want to build a Hey?

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<v Speaker 3>I was in that village? Were the village that that

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<v Speaker 3>frozen was modeled after?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's Hallstat in Austria.

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<v Speaker 2>No, way.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's a little town square that's kind of off kilter,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not a square, you know, off kilter, and there's

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<v Speaker 3>a little statue in the middle and all this kind

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<v Speaker 3>of stuff and yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, so everybody

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to get a picture. Yeah, and all the girls

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<v Speaker 3>were singing, do you want to be a snowman?

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<v Speaker 1>Of course they were, of course they were, yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>probably let it go and yep, yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So would you rather build a snowman or have a

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<v Speaker 2>snowball fight?

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<v Speaker 1>That really depends on the company, right, yeah, but I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to go for snowman.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>And here's the reason why, because it's it's been a

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<v Speaker 1>while since I've had a legitimate snowball fight. And obviously

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<v Speaker 1>when you're you know, Grandpa age, you know, it's what

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<v Speaker 1>you know, what's more.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, snowmatter sweet.

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<v Speaker 1>You take the pictures, right, the memories, the whole thing,

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<v Speaker 1>snowball fight. You're like, Okay, I gotta, I gotta, I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta take my advil.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, right, I got a gear up for this.

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<v Speaker 3>So I would choose aball snowball fight ten times to

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<v Speaker 3>one overbuilding a snowman. So really, yeah, so my middle son, David,

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<v Speaker 3>is that the artistry in me? Like I like I

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<v Speaker 3>probably to crafting, Yeah, crafting, and I'm not a crafter,

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<v Speaker 3>but I do like the violence of a snowball fight.

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<v Speaker 3>So my middle son, David, he's an adult, grown up now,

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<v Speaker 3>but he was maybe a tween eleven, twelve, thirteen years

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<v Speaker 3>He isn't feeling well. Yeah, and we were walking into

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<v Speaker 3>a restaurant. I'm trying to cheer him up, and he's

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<v Speaker 3>all sad, he's not feeling great. And so I just

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<v Speaker 3>made a slushy snowball and say hey David and through it,

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<v Speaker 3>just expecting to dodge. He didn't dutch all right in

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<v Speaker 3>the face. I hit it hurt. It wasn't a hard snowball,

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<v Speaker 3>but yeah, yeah, still it just makes everything worse.

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<v Speaker 2>Last snow man.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh wow, you got to show it?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh can you can you see that?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>For those of you who are how wonderful on TV?

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<v Speaker 1>Can you put Zach go to just me, go to

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<v Speaker 1>the camera where it's just me? Can you do that

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<v Speaker 1>right there?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Right, so if you're watching there it is, look how

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<v Speaker 1>big it istory?

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<v Speaker 3>Good job, Chris yeah, it's easily seven feet tall.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, and that was that was awesome. Yeah, good memories.

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<v Speaker 3>It's fabulous.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, hitting your kid in the face with the snowball.

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<v Speaker 2>Is also memories, right, I'm sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, would you rather go I'm sorry, I'm skipping ahead.

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<v Speaker 3>Would you rather go Christmas carolling or half people Christmas

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<v Speaker 3>carol at your house for an extended period?

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<v Speaker 2>For an extended period?

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<v Speaker 3>That's the vague, that's the thing extended. Well, so, so

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<v Speaker 3>you know more than the first verse, the field extended.

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<v Speaker 1>There's only one thing worse than no Christmas carollers. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>let's bad Christmas care.

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<v Speaker 3>That's true. That's right, that's true.

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<v Speaker 2>So Christmas kalers are wonderful if they're awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>Really okay, have you ever had Christmas.

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<v Speaker 1>Kalers at your house? Sure, when you were a kid,

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<v Speaker 1>but nobody Christmas carols anymore?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's so sad, isn't it? What happened?

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<v Speaker 3>Some things just need to move on, stay off my lawn. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I like Christmas carollers, like at Greenfield Village or something,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, old time village.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you just say some things have to move on? Yeah? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's just you know what is wrong with what's.

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<v Speaker 3>Christmas carolers meant something? When you know you didn't have

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<v Speaker 3>all the records and now you've got iTunes, you could

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<v Speaker 3>just play like good music in your house.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why you think Christmas Carolyn came about because limited

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<v Speaker 1>access to music?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Yeah, I think so.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my goodness, how about this? How about holiday cheer?

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<v Speaker 1>How about like goodwill toward man?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I like holidays?

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<v Speaker 1>How about how about all the goodness that? By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>I just talked about this. When I as a kid,

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<v Speaker 1>I remember counting the number of houses that didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>lights as opposed to every ten houses that are dark.

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<v Speaker 1>You have one house that's litten nowtches. Yes, yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>so dude, that has nothing to do with access to lighting.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I'm not saying it's okay.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to know what make Christmas this week?

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<v Speaker 3>That it's that just a lack of fondness for Christmas Caroling.

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<v Speaker 3>I like Christmas Carol, so don't get me wrong. I

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<v Speaker 3>like Christmas Carols. Just have somebody show up on my

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<v Speaker 3>porch and sing it me for twenty minutes is weird? Anyways,

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<v Speaker 3>Let's keep going.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Okay, number number four. Would you rather drink hot

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<v Speaker 1>cocoa or drink egg noo cocoa?

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<v Speaker 3>Would you rather have a white Christmas or get away

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<v Speaker 3>and enjoy a tropical Christmas?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you're gonna have to go tropical.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the reason why, because it's not the tropical that

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<v Speaker 1>but it is the getaway part. It says would you

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<v Speaker 1>rather get away and enjoy? So that implies like.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd rather get away the day after Christmas? Oh, and

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<v Speaker 3>just have Christmas at home. So you're definitely choosing Christmas.

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<v Speaker 2>Dream. Yeah, I like to get away part. I see,

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<v Speaker 2>I did it one year.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, I actually traveled on Christmas Day and went down

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<v Speaker 1>to Florida last year and we did the Christmas with

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<v Speaker 1>the Cranks. I mentioned it I think before, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it was wonderful.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you did that, would you take your kids

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well that's perfect because this passage we're about to

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<v Speaker 3>read talks about directing your children on the right path.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice and by the way, that wasn't even cheesy.

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<v Speaker 3>I should have tried that was maybe maybe So we

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<v Speaker 3>should do is try try for some quality on this show.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe maybe hey, imagine that new concept.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, well, hey, we are in Proverbs chapter twenty two.

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<v Speaker 3>We're continuing on with the wisdom of Solomon. One of

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<v Speaker 3>the reasons is Proverbs is my favorite book. And the

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<v Speaker 3>other reason is because death why And one of the

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<v Speaker 3>other reason is because desire just keeps assigning Proverbs to us.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the main reason why. It's just that you don't

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<v Speaker 1>mind it, because it's it.

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<v Speaker 3>I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>You're like, I love it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yea. So we're going to read the first twenty nine

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<v Speaker 3>verses in Proverbs chapter twenty two, which is there's more

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<v Speaker 3>than twenty nine verses. No, we're just gonna read the

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<v Speaker 3>first twenty nine and the only there's only twenty nine verses. Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>So here you go. It says, choose a good reputation

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<v Speaker 3>over great riches. Being held in high esteem is better

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<v Speaker 3>than silver or gold. The rich and poor have this

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<v Speaker 3>in common. The Lord made them both. A prudent person

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<v Speaker 3>foresees danger and takes precautions. The simple goes blindly on

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<v Speaker 3>and suffers the consequences. True humility and fear of the

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<v Speaker 3>Lord lead to riches, honor, and long life. Corrupt people

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<v Speaker 3>walk a thorny, treacherous road. Whoever values life will avoid it.

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<v Speaker 3>Direct your children onto the right path, and when they

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<v Speaker 3>are older, they'll not leave it. There you go seek, yeah, there.

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<v Speaker 3>It is just as the rich rule the poor, so

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<v Speaker 3>the borrower is servant to the lender. Those who plant

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<v Speaker 3>injustice will harvest disaster, and their reign of terror will

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<v Speaker 3>come to an end. Blessed are those who are generous,

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<v Speaker 3>because they feed the poor. Throw out the mocker, and

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<v Speaker 3>fighting goes too. Corals and insults will disappear. Whoever loves

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<v Speaker 3>as a friend. The Lord preserves those whose knowledge are

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<v Speaker 3>with knowledge, but he ruins the plans of the treacherous.

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<v Speaker 3>to keep these sayings in your heart and always ready

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<v Speaker 3>on your lips. I am teaching you today, Yes you,

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<v Speaker 3>so you will trust in the Lord. I've written thirty

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<v Speaker 3>sayings for you, filled with advice and knowledge. In this

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<v Speaker 3>who ruins them. Don't befriend angry people or associate with

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<v Speaker 3>from under you. Don't cheat your neighbor by moving the

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<v Speaker 2>You say that's the strongest them in the reputation? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>The first couple of verses there, well.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then also even later on here he talks

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<v Speaker 2>You know, isn't it interesting? How have you ever seen

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<v Speaker 2>the old Westerns?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, where it seems like everybody who you know is

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<v Speaker 1>make it past thirty years old, right, they just don't

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<v Speaker 2>And back then, you know, people just used to slay

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<v Speaker 2>each other. Yeah, yeah, right, And I would imagine that

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<v Speaker 2>back here, say slay man slaughter, and so I would

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<v Speaker 1>Back then that was really probably true. Like if you

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<v Speaker 1>I would guess that there would be a reputation like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>in the streets and guess what, it's going to be justified,

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<v Speaker 2>That things happen back then.

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<v Speaker 3>not surprising when you hear of gang warfare, gang fighting, right,

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<v Speaker 3>somebody trying to take over territory, shooting and killing over crime.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're around if you're doing crime, you're going to

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<v Speaker 3>be around criminals. That's that's what happens, right, right, And

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<v Speaker 3>bad guys do bad things, and I don't know if

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<v Speaker 3>you heard right, flash right, and that's what happens. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that's a part of that I think is if you're

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<v Speaker 3>who's slashing and killing to get ahead. And so it's

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And so so he talks about riches. He says, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the humility and the fear of the lord

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<v Speaker 1>lead to riches, honor, and a long life. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's what the nod is too, I really do. And

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<v Speaker 1>then also a good reputation has chosen.

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<v Speaker 2>Over riches, right, and and the poor and the rich

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<v Speaker 2>have both this in common. The Lord made them both.

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<v Speaker 1>And so what God is trying to say is he's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he's trying to say, choose life over over wealth. Yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 1>choose true life. And here's another thing too, choose a

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<v Speaker 1>good life, a good life.

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<v Speaker 3>And when I say good life, not the good life,

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<v Speaker 3>but choose to live a good life.

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<v Speaker 1>The life.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and and uh, and also think about this as well,

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<v Speaker 1>So what's it all for? You know, think about like

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<v Speaker 1>the writer. Obviously at Solomon, right, so he's has tremendous wisdom.

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<v Speaker 1>But when I always think of like, if you're the

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<v Speaker 1>things that you write are as wise, and in this case,

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<v Speaker 1>wiser than somebody who's on their deathbed. Somebody's on their deathbed.

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<v Speaker 1>Is the person who's got all figured out? Right, the

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<v Speaker 1>other person who says, now I know it's really important

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<v Speaker 1>in life. All the things I used to pursue those

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<v Speaker 1>are all vanity, you know, you know, it's a waste

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<v Speaker 1>of time. Now I've really got to figure it out.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's really what Solomon is writing. He's writing this

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<v Speaker 1>advice and he's saying, hey, listen, when you look at

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<v Speaker 1>your life. Here's the perspective you need to have overall.

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<v Speaker 1>And we go through different seasons. Remember when we were

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<v Speaker 1>first married and we not we, not you and me.

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<v Speaker 3>But when we married our spouses, when we married our

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<v Speaker 3>spouse respective spouses.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and remember like we could afford to buy much right, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the way that most you know newly weds are.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't remember Bonnie and I were so that this

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<v Speaker 3>were twenty one. Yeah, I was going to college, so

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<v Speaker 3>and we paid rent. We had a car that we

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<v Speaker 3>didn't have to pay for, but we were paying for insurance. Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>whole week, right, So we found a place where we

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<v Speaker 3>could sell plasma. Yes, I did that, and we'd sell

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<v Speaker 3>give us enough money. So we'd sell our blood and

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<v Speaker 3>for a pizza and a VHS movie. We could run

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<v Speaker 3>a movie and that would be date night. So we

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<v Speaker 3>go sell our blood. We always either every Friday, and

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<v Speaker 3>we would be able to get a five dollar pizza

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<v Speaker 3>in a movie and yeah, that was science. And that

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so.

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<v Speaker 3>That's poor, by the way, that's that's you're struggling at

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, right, So when we when we left Youngstown, Ohio,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, and it was myself, my best friend Jeff Miller,

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<v Speaker 2>It was sort of us who were the three Musketeers

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<v Speaker 1>I got a real job, okay, but Jeff Miller, so

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<v Speaker 1>plaza plus that's all he did, right and so.

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<v Speaker 2>And so literally they get.

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<v Speaker 3>Like sixty bucks, forty bucks sixty yes, right, and he.

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<v Speaker 2>Got to the point. And by the way, Jeff listens

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<v Speaker 2>to the Bible, guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so my best job, Jeff.

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<v Speaker 2>My best my best buddy's listening right now. And so

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff listen, so your two best jeffs Yeah, that's right,

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<v Speaker 2>my best Jeff well Miller.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry, Jones gave Jones, right, Jonesy.

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<v Speaker 2>Miller gave so much plasma that he had permanent marks of.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I do too, I do too. I make fine

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<v Speaker 3>about that. Sometimes. I'm probably one of the one of

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<v Speaker 3>the few pastors that have tracks on his arms. But

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<v Speaker 3>I've never taken Druss right.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So here's what happened. This is the fun I'm

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<v Speaker 2>leading into this.

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<v Speaker 1>So we would all get together at noon and we

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<v Speaker 1>would all eat in the cafeteria, all of us, and

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<v Speaker 1>then Norman I would head to work, right, and then

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<v Speaker 1>and then Jeff would head to the plasma place and

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<v Speaker 1>we'd say, okay, Jeff, you had no work, work Jeff, and.

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<v Speaker 3>He just kicked back on the couch, drink orange juice.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, that's what he would do.

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<v Speaker 1>And he did that for gas money, and that was it.

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<v Speaker 1>So but Norman I had real jobs. I love you, buddy,

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<v Speaker 1>I love you, Jeff.

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<v Speaker 3>That's awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, that was funny.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So there's there's another theme that keeps coming up.

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<v Speaker 3>This is I think the third or fourth time where

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<v Speaker 3>he says, don't guarantee another person's debt. Yeah, how often

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<v Speaker 3>does he bring this up? I mean, because you remember

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<v Speaker 3>most of these he's talking to his son, right, isn't

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<v Speaker 3>that what he says? He's always talking to like, Hey,

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<v Speaker 3>Listen my son. Right, So you kind of have a

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<v Speaker 3>sense that a lot of the proverbs he's writing for

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<v Speaker 3>his family, that that's what he's right, He's trying to

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<v Speaker 3>pass it on to the next thing, right, pass on

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<v Speaker 3>his wisdom. And so this is like the fourth time

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<v Speaker 3>he's like, don't be a co signer. And then later

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<v Speaker 3>on he goes, don't be a co signer, and then

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<v Speaker 3>he says, don't be a co signer. And then here

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<v Speaker 3>at the very end it says, if you can't pay it,

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<v Speaker 3>even your bed will be snatched from one to you.

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<v Speaker 3>He always has like this little thing that goes, if

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<v Speaker 3>you do this is what might happen. Right, You're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>even lose your bed. They're gonna take your bed from you.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, will you do me a favorite? Will you shay

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<v Speaker 2>hi to my cousin Denay Adams, Hi, Denay Adams. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So the last time I told this story about my

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<v Speaker 1>me and she said, listening to the Bible guys this morning,

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<v Speaker 1>And I never knew the story about Grandpa co signing

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<v Speaker 1>for that car and then paying it off for the

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<v Speaker 1>guy's window or widow. I love all those little extra

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<v Speaker 1>nuggets that you throw in. It gives me pieces of

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<v Speaker 1>my family history that I never knew. I listen every day.

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<v Speaker 2>Keep up the good one.

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<v Speaker 3>That's so nice.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And she lives in another state and she listens

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Now, so your grandfather co signed in that situation,

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<v Speaker 3>he had the resources that if it went sideways, he

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<v Speaker 3>could cover it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>So there are a lot of places in the Bible,

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<v Speaker 3>in the Book of Proverbs that will say when you

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<v Speaker 3>loan something, don't just loan it, just give it right

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<v Speaker 3>right in your heart right. So if they can pay

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<v Speaker 3>it back, that's fine. If they can't pay it back,

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<v Speaker 3>that's fine too. And so that's what happened is your

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<v Speaker 3>grandfather had a lot of margin, and so he was

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<v Speaker 3>able to co sign on a car knowing that, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>if they fall apart, I can just pay it. And

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<v Speaker 3>that's what he did for that widow, is he just

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<v Speaker 3>paid even though because he had the margin. What happens

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<v Speaker 3>have compassion on somebody else who's struggling, and then they go, well,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I've got a five, I have a six

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<v Speaker 3>forty credit score. I'll go ahead and sign right, And

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<v Speaker 3>then they sign and then the other person slips into catastrophe,

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<v Speaker 3>and then it causes catastrophe for both families rather than

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<v Speaker 3>just just the one right. And so a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>times when you're struggling, you have a lot of compassion

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<v Speaker 3>for the other people who are struggling. But what Solomon

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<v Speaker 3>is saying is don't don't, you know, drill a hole

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<v Speaker 3>in your own boat just because somebody else's boat is sinking, right, right,

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<v Speaker 3>That's what that's literally what he's warning about all the time.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't do it. And then I wanted to highlight one

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<v Speaker 3>other one is direct your children under the right path

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<v Speaker 3>and when they're older, you know they'll not leave it.

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<v Speaker 3>We talk a lot about parenting and those kinds of things.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, we're both parents, and this is not a

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<v Speaker 3>promise that, hey, if you teach your kids right thing,

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<v Speaker 3>they'll never do the wrong thing. But big picture is,

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<v Speaker 3>you don't go You don't fall very far from the tree,

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<v Speaker 3>do you. The apple doesn't fall very far from the tree.

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<v Speaker 3>You raise up your kids in the right way, and

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<v Speaker 3>they will know the right thing to do is what

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<v Speaker 3>the Bible is talking about there. And I just think

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<v Speaker 3>that there's something about that, because there seems to be

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<v Speaker 3>a big push in our culture today, don't you know,

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<v Speaker 3>try to push your kids towards following Christ. Just let

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<v Speaker 3>them choose on their own, don't whatever. And I would

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<v Speaker 3>say it's exactly the opposite. You train them in the

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<v Speaker 3>way they should go. That's what it says, train your

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<v Speaker 3>children on the right path. King James says, train up

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<v Speaker 3>your child and the way he should go, and when

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<v Speaker 3>he's old he won't depart from it. There's a right

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<v Speaker 3>way and a wrong way. And if you found the

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<v Speaker 3>right way, you should lead your children in the right way,

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<v Speaker 3>right and not just hope they also find it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and didn't we just did.

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<v Speaker 1>We just talk We had a conversation just recently about

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<v Speaker 1>the formative years, uh, and how and how when a

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<v Speaker 1>child is indoctrinated with the right things during their formative

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<v Speaker 1>years that it actually sticks with them long into their

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<v Speaker 1>adult life, right, right, And and so yeah, it is

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<v Speaker 1>a it is great advice way beyond just to just

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<v Speaker 1>to you know, seemingly surfaced nugget piece of advice.

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<v Speaker 2>This is this is.

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<v Speaker 1>In depth well thought out rules for life kind of things,

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<v Speaker 1>which is why I said it's like deathbed kind of

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<v Speaker 1>advice where it's like, you know, he's you know, for instance,

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<v Speaker 1>he says the the the borrower is servant to the lender.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes people don't learn that until their fifties, and then

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<v Speaker 1>and then they go, oh, yeah, I've I've.

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<v Speaker 2>Given most of my funds away to MasterCard, right yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>or I've given most of my funds a way to

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and and and it's just it just ends up,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, where's that verse.

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<v Speaker 2>The top of page six fifty nine, verse uver seven

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<v Speaker 2>oh seven.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, just as Richard, so the bower is serving to

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<v Speaker 3>the lenders. So many people are enslaved, they're trapped. I

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<v Speaker 3>know so many good people that are in their hearts generous,

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<v Speaker 3>but they financed their couch and their car and their

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<v Speaker 3>TV and their school and their clothes, and they finance

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<v Speaker 3>restaurant meals and they find finance all the same thing saying,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you're paying all this interest and you know

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<v Speaker 3>you're just spending on thousand dollars a month in interest,

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<v Speaker 3>and you feel trapped right in there because you're a

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<v Speaker 3>slave to now MasterCard you're a slave to Visa, you're

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<v Speaker 3>a slave to American Express or whatever. You're a slave

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<v Speaker 3>to something you consumed before. Right, And so he says,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, if you don't want to be enslaved, don't

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<v Speaker 3>get in debt. That's really the thing. It's hard. That's

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<v Speaker 3>a hard, hard thing to learn.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well it's and it's a hard My wife and

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<v Speaker 2>I learned it. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say it's a hard thing to do too, right,

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<v Speaker 1>because when you're young, it's hard.

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<v Speaker 3>Hence giving plasma exactly. We weren't carrying any debt back then.

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<v Speaker 3>We didn't have any debt back then. But yeah, we

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<v Speaker 3>were just telling.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, and then the debt came later. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, well, hey, that looks like it's our time.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a lot of great nuggets in there that

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<v Speaker 1>we didn't get time to get to.

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<v Speaker 2>But we'll continue in

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<v Speaker 1>Proverbs, so hopefully we'll see tomorrow on the bibble, guys,