WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.800 --> 00:00:03.680 You're listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a 2 00:00:03.720 --> 00:00:06.440 couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun in 3 00:00:06.559 --> 00:00:07.519 practical ways. 4 00:00:11.599 --> 00:00:12.599 Hey, good morning everyone. 5 00:00:12.640 --> 00:00:14.880 My name is Chris Zarba and my name is Kyle 6 00:00:14.960 --> 00:00:17.719 Dobbin Meyer. Dobbin Meyer, you said your last name. 7 00:00:17.760 --> 00:00:18.359 I had to follow. 8 00:00:18.440 --> 00:00:21.280 Both of us have weird last names. Yeah, right, I mean, 9 00:00:21.320 --> 00:00:24.359 in other words, it's not like Smith, No, right, even 10 00:00:24.399 --> 00:00:27.280 Forrester's pretty pretty doable, fun fact. 11 00:00:27.399 --> 00:00:29.000 I mean, I don't know, you'll think this is fine. 12 00:00:29.000 --> 00:00:30.320 I think this is I think the our listeners are 13 00:00:30.320 --> 00:00:31.800 like this. So the other day I was looking up 14 00:00:31.800 --> 00:00:34.039 on our database, which for our church that we both 15 00:00:34.039 --> 00:00:36.640 work at, Heritage. We have this database attracts names, and 16 00:00:36.719 --> 00:00:39.880 we're looking up names just to see, you know, how 17 00:00:39.880 --> 00:00:42.359 many Dobbin Myers have ever attended Heritage. There's twenty three 18 00:00:42.359 --> 00:00:44.399 Dobbin Myers in our database, which is kind of a lot. 19 00:00:44.880 --> 00:00:46.320 But then I searched. I was like, wonder how many 20 00:00:46.320 --> 00:00:49.439 Smiths there are. There's like five hundred and thirty five 21 00:00:49.479 --> 00:00:52.079 people with the last name Smith that have ever attended Heritage. 22 00:00:52.159 --> 00:00:53.119 So I thought that was pretty wild. 23 00:00:53.200 --> 00:00:57.000 Wow, thirty five out of like seventy thousand names. But still, yeah, 24 00:00:57.000 --> 00:00:57.719 that's pretty wild. 25 00:00:57.759 --> 00:01:01.039 Yeah, that's incredible. Do you know that here we are 26 00:01:01.079 --> 00:01:04.319 just just rambling about the names. When I lived Atlanta, 27 00:01:04.319 --> 00:01:08.040 Georgia for ten years back in the nineties, they still 28 00:01:08.079 --> 00:01:12.719 had phone books, right, and in Atlanta, I had I 29 00:01:12.760 --> 00:01:14.519 think it was either two or three phone books. I 30 00:01:14.519 --> 00:01:16.400 think it was two, but it was like, you know, 31 00:01:16.599 --> 00:01:19.680 really like six inches thick, and it was like a 32 00:01:19.799 --> 00:01:22.680 through m okay, but it was the greater Atlanta area. 33 00:01:22.719 --> 00:01:23.719 It was four million. 34 00:01:23.400 --> 00:01:26.920 People and then and so anyway, it was z and 35 00:01:26.959 --> 00:01:28.319 so I looked up and I thought, I wonder how 36 00:01:28.319 --> 00:01:30.480 many zarbas there are in the city of Atlanta. 37 00:01:30.480 --> 00:01:32.159 I had a four million people. I looked it up. 38 00:01:32.200 --> 00:01:34.920 We're the only ones? Are you serious? The only ones? 39 00:01:35.200 --> 00:01:38.359 We're the only zarbas in places. Yeah, So it's pretty funny. 40 00:01:38.359 --> 00:01:40.280 That's kind of wild to think about the phone book. 41 00:01:40.280 --> 00:01:42.959 That's a different time, man, a different time nowadays. 42 00:01:43.040 --> 00:01:45.920 It's like, yeah, that's it's crazy to even think that 43 00:01:45.920 --> 00:01:46.840 the phone book existed. 44 00:01:46.920 --> 00:01:48.599 Yeah, I think I think that's when I started prank 45 00:01:48.599 --> 00:01:50.519 calling people. It was the first phone book I had 46 00:01:50.560 --> 00:01:51.519 at my parents' house. 47 00:01:51.719 --> 00:01:51.959 Right. 48 00:01:52.799 --> 00:01:56.000 Yeah, So hey, we're gonna start off with a segment 49 00:01:56.640 --> 00:02:01.159 called the Babylon b because we are dedicated to the best. 50 00:02:00.879 --> 00:02:04.159 News for our listeners, only the best. 51 00:02:04.159 --> 00:02:07.200 And if you don't know, bebelon Bee's a satire column, 52 00:02:07.400 --> 00:02:11.319 but it's always hilarious. It's a very sophisticated humor and 53 00:02:11.400 --> 00:02:13.879 it is very funny. They write it as if it's true, 54 00:02:14.240 --> 00:02:16.960 which to me is just so funny. So here's how 55 00:02:16.960 --> 00:02:22.120 the article reads. The headlines says kid cleverly waits until 56 00:02:22.199 --> 00:02:28.479 bedtime before asking dad to explain the trinity. Okay Omaha, 57 00:02:28.560 --> 00:02:33.080 Nebraska local father Sam Libert was tricked into keeping his 58 00:02:33.159 --> 00:02:35.759 children up far too late last night after his kids 59 00:02:35.800 --> 00:02:39.759 cleverly waited until bedtime to ask him to explain the trinity. 60 00:02:39.879 --> 00:02:43.680 Libert had just finished getting his children, Bradley and Evelyn, 61 00:02:43.840 --> 00:02:46.840 washed up and changed into pajamas and tucked away securely 62 00:02:46.879 --> 00:02:50.639 into their beds when Evelyn repeatedly gave Bradley a knowingly 63 00:02:50.759 --> 00:02:54.439 glance and asked, Daddy, what is the trinity? Can you 64 00:02:54.520 --> 00:02:57.840 tell us? Sam froz for a moment before answering, uh, 65 00:02:57.879 --> 00:03:03.599 he said, the Trinity is well, it's complicated, don't you know, daddy? 66 00:03:03.680 --> 00:03:06.800 Bradley asked, quickly pressing his father on the issue. Of 67 00:03:06.840 --> 00:03:10.639 course I do, son, Sam said, confidently, It's just it's 68 00:03:10.680 --> 00:03:14.039 one of those things that it's like, you know, hold 69 00:03:14.120 --> 00:03:17.800 on a minute. The Libert family, the livered children continue 70 00:03:17.840 --> 00:03:21.520 to contain their glee, knowing that their plan had worked. 71 00:03:21.840 --> 00:03:24.599 Sources within uh, hang hang on. 72 00:03:24.879 --> 00:03:27.879 Sources with inside knowledge of the Libert household claimed to 73 00:03:27.879 --> 00:03:30.759 have the kids weren't interested in the specifics of the trinity, 74 00:03:31.000 --> 00:03:31.439 but just. 75 00:03:31.400 --> 00:03:32.960 Wanted to get out of going to bed. 76 00:03:33.400 --> 00:03:37.280 In any event, Sam bravely formulated his response, You know, 77 00:03:37.400 --> 00:03:40.520 Clover's right, how they have three leaves and yet there's 78 00:03:40.560 --> 00:03:45.759 still one clover? Yeah, His children started stared silently. Now, wait, 79 00:03:45.800 --> 00:03:48.080 that's not the best explanation. How about this an egg? 80 00:03:48.560 --> 00:03:50.680 An egg has three different parts, the shell, the white, 81 00:03:50.759 --> 00:03:53.000 and the yolk, right, but it's one egg, get it? 82 00:03:53.319 --> 00:03:55.599 Or wait, it's a lot more than that, it's actually 83 00:03:56.400 --> 00:03:58.960 Sam then noticed that his explanation of the trinity had 84 00:03:59.000 --> 00:04:04.000 inadvertently put bread and evidence of sleep. At publishing time, 85 00:04:04.080 --> 00:04:06.960 Bradley and Evelyn were holding a closed door meeting today 86 00:04:07.159 --> 00:04:09.879 to devise a better plan to stay up later than 87 00:04:09.919 --> 00:04:12.719 the normal bedtime by asking their dad to explain free 88 00:04:12.719 --> 00:04:15.120 will versus God's sovereignty. 89 00:04:15.439 --> 00:04:17.560 That is so funny. That's great. 90 00:04:17.600 --> 00:04:19.800 I've actually never heard the clover one too. I've heard 91 00:04:19.800 --> 00:04:21.879 the agg illustration about this the whole. 92 00:04:21.920 --> 00:04:24.560 That's kind of funny though. Yeah, you never love everyone. Yeah, 93 00:04:24.600 --> 00:04:25.920 but I actually can relate those. 94 00:04:26.160 --> 00:04:28.519 When my kids were younger, especially, they would ask it's 95 00:04:28.519 --> 00:04:31.519 felt like the most deep questions. Oh God, you're about 96 00:04:31.519 --> 00:04:33.879 to put in a bed. And they're like like, like, Dad, 97 00:04:34.279 --> 00:04:36.319 do you love me? And I'm like, of course, well, 98 00:04:36.360 --> 00:04:37.720 can you tell us how much you love me? 99 00:04:37.920 --> 00:04:39.439 Like you? 100 00:04:39.680 --> 00:04:41.560 What is what is love to you? You're like, how 101 00:04:41.560 --> 00:04:43.519 are you asking this question right now? I was always 102 00:04:43.920 --> 00:04:45.519 right then and there they dropped those bombs. 103 00:04:45.720 --> 00:04:47.920 You know. That's when my son accepted christ was I 104 00:04:47.959 --> 00:04:50.000 was talking him into bed, and I was like, we 105 00:04:50.040 --> 00:04:52.319 had just stayed up late. We just watched Spider Man 106 00:04:52.399 --> 00:04:54.800 number one, and you know, I remember our uncle Ben 107 00:04:54.920 --> 00:04:56.000 get shot and dies. 108 00:04:56.079 --> 00:04:59.920 Won, like the two thousand and four Spider Man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, told. 109 00:04:59.839 --> 00:05:02.120 Yeah, and so yeah, he was like five or six 110 00:05:02.199 --> 00:05:04.360 years old and we and we I'm not sure if 111 00:05:04.399 --> 00:05:05.800 we watch it right when it came out or a 112 00:05:05.839 --> 00:05:07.000 couple of years later. I think it was a couple 113 00:05:07.000 --> 00:05:08.720 of years later because it was at home. We watched 114 00:05:08.720 --> 00:05:12.120 it and I'm talking to Bed and I'm like, I'm like, son, 115 00:05:12.560 --> 00:05:14.879 it's late. We got to go to bed, and he goes. Dad, 116 00:05:14.879 --> 00:05:19.480 he goes because what happens when a person dies? And 117 00:05:19.480 --> 00:05:21.279 I'm like, I got to go. 118 00:05:21.399 --> 00:05:24.120 So I mean, like, I'm talking to you tomorrow. 119 00:05:24.519 --> 00:05:27.000 And then finally we just started talking about it and 120 00:05:27.000 --> 00:05:29.079 he's like, so he's like, do people go to heaven? 121 00:05:29.160 --> 00:05:31.120 How do I get to heaven? And I'm like, are 122 00:05:31.160 --> 00:05:32.079 you serious right now? 123 00:05:32.399 --> 00:05:34.240 And so finally I just sort of surrendered to it 124 00:05:34.240 --> 00:05:36.040 and I was like, I think my son is asking 125 00:05:36.079 --> 00:05:39.680 me about about salvation. So we just talked and talked 126 00:05:39.720 --> 00:05:41.639 and talked, and he prayed right there and that's how 127 00:05:41.639 --> 00:05:42.199 he got saved. 128 00:05:42.279 --> 00:05:43.319 That's great, which. 129 00:05:43.160 --> 00:05:44.800 Was you know, hey, that's a good lesson, I guess, 130 00:05:44.839 --> 00:05:47.959 and just knowing his parents that you know, maybe your 131 00:05:48.040 --> 00:05:50.600 kids are playing something playing you, but also it may 132 00:05:50.680 --> 00:05:51.839 lead to a great conversation. 133 00:05:52.279 --> 00:05:53.040 Well, I tell you what. 134 00:05:53.600 --> 00:05:58.120 Here's great advice to parents, and that is budget time 135 00:05:58.439 --> 00:06:02.160 for checking your kids into bed. Always budget time because 136 00:06:02.199 --> 00:06:04.839 as parents, we want to get them in the bed 137 00:06:04.879 --> 00:06:08.360 and then get downstairs to what lounge around probably right, 138 00:06:08.360 --> 00:06:11.319 turn on the TV and lounge most of the time. 139 00:06:11.639 --> 00:06:12.839 Or something silly like that. 140 00:06:13.959 --> 00:06:17.279 But if you budget time to tuck your kids into bed, 141 00:06:17.439 --> 00:06:19.560 those are some of the best moments that you can have. 142 00:06:19.800 --> 00:06:21.839 That's really good. It's really really good. Yeah, you never 143 00:06:21.879 --> 00:06:22.879 know what could come from it too. 144 00:06:23.160 --> 00:06:23.439 Yep. 145 00:06:23.519 --> 00:06:26.480 All right, So I know we're in Second Samuel, chapter 146 00:06:26.519 --> 00:06:29.000 twenty one. Let's see what verses we're reading today. This 147 00:06:29.040 --> 00:06:32.879 one is twenty one Chapter twenty one. Verses one through 148 00:06:32.920 --> 00:06:34.759 twenty two is what I'm going to be reading. 149 00:06:34.800 --> 00:06:37.040 Hey, i'd like to read this. It's a really good 150 00:06:37.319 --> 00:06:42.040 statement of context. It basically summarizes it by saying, these 151 00:06:42.040 --> 00:06:45.199 are the later years of David's reign. David ruled over 152 00:06:45.279 --> 00:06:49.160 Israel for many years. After the rebellions of Absolom and Sheba. 153 00:06:49.279 --> 00:06:51.439 He finally subdued the Philistines and wrote a song of 154 00:06:51.480 --> 00:06:55.240 praise to God for giving the nation rest from all 155 00:06:55.240 --> 00:06:57.720 their enemies. Near the end of Israel, he decided to 156 00:06:57.759 --> 00:07:01.079 take a census and violation of God's wishes, leading to 157 00:07:01.240 --> 00:07:02.759 tragic consequences for the nation. 158 00:07:03.560 --> 00:07:05.639 It's a good contract set up, Yep, great setup. 159 00:07:06.000 --> 00:07:06.279 All right. 160 00:07:06.360 --> 00:07:09.560 Second Samuel will start in verse one Chapter twenty one 161 00:07:10.160 --> 00:07:12.800 says there was a famine during David's reign that. 162 00:07:12.800 --> 00:07:14.199 Lasted for three years. 163 00:07:14.519 --> 00:07:16.879 So David asked the Lord about it, and the Lord said, 164 00:07:17.079 --> 00:07:19.279 the famine has come because Saul and his family are 165 00:07:19.279 --> 00:07:21.079 guilty of murdering the Gibeonites. 166 00:07:21.879 --> 00:07:25.360 So the king summoned the Gibbeanites. They were a part. 167 00:07:25.480 --> 00:07:27.720 They're not part of Israel, but we're all that was 168 00:07:27.800 --> 00:07:29.920 left in the nation of the Amorites. The people of 169 00:07:29.959 --> 00:07:32.639 Israel had sworn not to kill them, but Saul and 170 00:07:32.720 --> 00:07:35.160 his zeal for Israel and Judah had tried to wipe 171 00:07:35.160 --> 00:07:37.800 them out. David asked them, what can I do for you? 172 00:07:38.040 --> 00:07:39.839 How can I make amends so that you will bless 173 00:07:39.879 --> 00:07:43.199 the Lord's people again. Well, money can't settle this matter 174 00:07:43.240 --> 00:07:45.720 between us and the family of Saul. The gibbean Nites replied, 175 00:07:45.839 --> 00:07:48.439 neither can we demand the life of anyone in Israel. 176 00:07:48.959 --> 00:07:49.600 What can I do? 177 00:07:49.720 --> 00:07:51.639 Then David asked, just tell me and I will do 178 00:07:51.680 --> 00:07:55.720 it for you. Then they replied, it was Saul who 179 00:07:55.839 --> 00:07:58.519 planned to destroy us, to keep us from having any 180 00:07:58.519 --> 00:08:00.920 place at all in the territory of Israel. So let 181 00:08:01.079 --> 00:08:04.360 seven of Saul's sons be handed over to us. We 182 00:08:04.360 --> 00:08:06.920 will execute them before the Lord at Gibeon on the 183 00:08:06.959 --> 00:08:09.519 mountain of the Lord. All right, the king said, I 184 00:08:09.519 --> 00:08:13.439 will do it. The King spared Jonathan's son Mephibisheth, which 185 00:08:13.439 --> 00:08:15.879 we talked about earlier this week, as well, who was 186 00:08:15.920 --> 00:08:19.079 Saul's grandson. Because of the oath David and Jonathan had 187 00:08:19.120 --> 00:08:22.399 sworn beatfore the Lord, but he gave them Sauls two sons, 188 00:08:22.480 --> 00:08:26.439 Harmoni and Maphibisheth, whose mother was Rispa daughter of aa. 189 00:08:26.839 --> 00:08:29.160 He also gave them the five sons of Saul's daughters, 190 00:08:29.240 --> 00:08:32.639 Mireb the wife of Ariel, son of Barzilai from Mahola. 191 00:08:33.240 --> 00:08:35.759 The men of Gibeon executed them on the mountain before 192 00:08:35.799 --> 00:08:38.919 the Lord, so all seven of them died together at 193 00:08:38.919 --> 00:08:42.919 the beginning of the barley harvest. Then Rispah daughter of Aia, 194 00:08:43.159 --> 00:08:45.360 the mother of two of the men, spread burlap on 195 00:08:45.399 --> 00:08:47.879 a rock and stayed there the entire harvest season. She 196 00:08:48.000 --> 00:08:50.600 prevented the scavenger birds from tearing at their bodies during 197 00:08:50.600 --> 00:08:53.120 the day and stopped wild animals from eating them at night. 198 00:08:53.639 --> 00:08:57.120 When David learned what Rispah Sal's concombine had done, he 199 00:08:57.200 --> 00:08:59.480 went to the people of Jabesh Giliad and retrieved the 200 00:08:59.480 --> 00:09:02.120 bones of so All and his son Jonathan. Then it 201 00:09:02.159 --> 00:09:04.240 says in quotes, when the Philistines had killed Saul and 202 00:09:04.279 --> 00:09:07.600 Jonathan on Mount Gilboa, the people of Gibesh Giliad stole 203 00:09:07.639 --> 00:09:10.440 their bodies from the public square of Bethshan, where the 204 00:09:10.440 --> 00:09:13.720 Philistines had hung them. So David obtained the bones of 205 00:09:13.720 --> 00:09:15.519 sal and Jonathan, as well as the bones the men 206 00:09:15.559 --> 00:09:18.879 the gibe Knits had executed. Then the king ordered that 207 00:09:18.879 --> 00:09:21.399 they bury the bones in the tomb of Kish, Saul's father, 208 00:09:21.559 --> 00:09:23.919 the town of Zeila in the land of Bejamin. After 209 00:09:23.960 --> 00:09:28.080 that God ended the famine in the land. And then 210 00:09:28.120 --> 00:09:30.240 it says this next section is about the battles against 211 00:09:30.240 --> 00:09:33.679 the Philistine giants, which David has a history of that 212 00:09:33.960 --> 00:09:36.080 as we know with David and Goliath. But it says 213 00:09:36.120 --> 00:09:38.720 this once again, the Philistines were at war with Israel, 214 00:09:39.039 --> 00:09:40.840 and when David and his men were in the thick 215 00:09:40.879 --> 00:09:45.399 of battle, David became weak and exhausted. Ishbai Banab was 216 00:09:45.440 --> 00:09:47.799 a descendant of the giants. His bronze spear had weighed 217 00:09:47.879 --> 00:09:49.879 more than seven pounds, and he was armed with a 218 00:09:49.919 --> 00:09:52.519 new sword. He had cornered David and was about to 219 00:09:52.600 --> 00:09:55.759 kill him, but Abeshi, son of Zarua came to David's 220 00:09:55.799 --> 00:09:59.200 rescue and killed the Philistine. Then David's men declared, you're 221 00:09:59.279 --> 00:10:02.159 not going out to battle with us again. Why we're 222 00:10:02.200 --> 00:10:04.840 snuffing out the light of Israel. After this, there was 223 00:10:04.879 --> 00:10:08.080 another battle against the Philistines of gob As they fought 224 00:10:08.360 --> 00:10:12.440 Sibekai from Husha killed saff another descendant of the Giants. 225 00:10:13.039 --> 00:10:16.480 During another battle of gob El, Hennan, son of Jar 226 00:10:16.600 --> 00:10:19.639 from Bethlehem, killed the brother of Goliath of Gath. The 227 00:10:19.679 --> 00:10:22.440 handle of his spear was as sticks, was as thick 228 00:10:22.519 --> 00:10:26.159 as a beaver's beam. Weavers beed, there you go, I 229 00:10:26.279 --> 00:10:29.919 totally do you say beaver's weed, I did weaver's beam. 230 00:10:30.279 --> 00:10:32.879 In another battle of the Philistines of Gath, they encountered 231 00:10:32.879 --> 00:10:35.759 a huge man with six fingers on each hand, his 232 00:10:35.919 --> 00:10:38.519 six toes on each foot, twenty four in all. I 233 00:10:38.559 --> 00:10:40.080 love that that they had to add it up for us, 234 00:10:40.399 --> 00:10:42.840 twenty four in all, who was also a descendant of 235 00:10:42.840 --> 00:10:46.159 the giants. But when he defiled and taunted Israel, he 236 00:10:46.240 --> 00:10:48.879 was killed by Jonathan, the son of David's brother Shamea. 237 00:10:49.159 --> 00:10:51.720 These four Philistines were descended to the giants of Gath, 238 00:10:51.799 --> 00:10:54.879 but David and his warriors killed them. 239 00:10:55.519 --> 00:10:55.879 Wow. 240 00:10:56.200 --> 00:11:02.759 Yeah, so uh so David here is just tired, yes, 241 00:11:03.080 --> 00:11:06.200 and obviously he is uh still having to deal with 242 00:11:07.039 --> 00:11:12.720 uh giants, all these Philistines and uh and what what 243 00:11:12.720 --> 00:11:15.919 what a mess he's having to deal with the uh 244 00:11:16.120 --> 00:11:18.159 there's a famine in the land. And he goes to 245 00:11:18.200 --> 00:11:20.159 God and says, why is there a famine the land? 246 00:11:20.159 --> 00:11:23.240 God's ultimately in control of all those things, right, Famine 247 00:11:23.639 --> 00:11:26.360 usually meant there's no rain, right, So there's no rain, 248 00:11:26.440 --> 00:11:27.240 there's no crops. 249 00:11:27.879 --> 00:11:29.039 Uh, there's there's. 250 00:11:28.840 --> 00:11:32.919 Hardly any water. So and and then and then what 251 00:11:32.919 --> 00:11:36.200 does God say? God says, well, it's because of these 252 00:11:36.240 --> 00:11:38.679 sins that are you know, taking care of the past. 253 00:11:39.080 --> 00:11:43.039 So it is really interesting how the rules of war 254 00:11:43.120 --> 00:11:47.279 for us just seem so unbelievably horrible, and they are, 255 00:11:48.399 --> 00:11:52.000 but in those days, it wasn't anything to you know, 256 00:11:52.159 --> 00:11:56.519 hand over the spoils of war, you know. So you know, 257 00:11:56.559 --> 00:11:59.440 here Saul has done this great injustice. Or remember there's 258 00:11:59.440 --> 00:12:02.480 no government, right, there's no government, there's no laws of 259 00:12:02.519 --> 00:12:05.399 the land, which is one of the reasons why God 260 00:12:05.480 --> 00:12:09.360 gave levitical laws, and you know, there were cultural laws. 261 00:12:09.360 --> 00:12:11.159 There was there was laws. 262 00:12:10.879 --> 00:12:14.200 That God gave because there was no government, so you 263 00:12:14.240 --> 00:12:17.799 had to follow and there was consequences, you know, for actions. 264 00:12:17.840 --> 00:12:22.519 You had to have consequences for misbehaving. And so because 265 00:12:22.519 --> 00:12:26.600 there's none of that, you know, that's why there's rules. 266 00:12:26.759 --> 00:12:29.840 So anyway, all that to say, you know, here here's 267 00:12:29.879 --> 00:12:33.039 Saul misbehaves and there's no consequences for him, right, and 268 00:12:33.120 --> 00:12:36.360 so you know, here's God reacting to sin in a 269 00:12:36.399 --> 00:12:38.480 way that he does not react to today. You know, 270 00:12:38.559 --> 00:12:40.919 he doesn't act that way today because of our sins. 271 00:12:41.919 --> 00:12:45.200 But back then here we have this consequences of the sins. 272 00:12:45.000 --> 00:12:45.720 It's what does this say? 273 00:12:45.720 --> 00:12:48.279 It's a three years right, it's a three year famine 274 00:12:48.360 --> 00:12:50.399 all because of yeah, this act. 275 00:12:50.480 --> 00:12:52.320 Yeah yeah, yeah, Well, I mean I shouldn't say that 276 00:12:52.360 --> 00:12:56.000 God doesn't react that way entirely, because you know, sin 277 00:12:56.159 --> 00:12:59.480 does have an effect on different generations. There's generational sin. 278 00:13:00.120 --> 00:13:04.399 We certainly know that. But this idea that David would 279 00:13:04.399 --> 00:13:08.200 have to hand over a sacrifice to make me right, 280 00:13:09.120 --> 00:13:12.519 I certainly know for a fact that the principles don't 281 00:13:12.519 --> 00:13:15.559 carry over. We don't have to pay for our sins 282 00:13:15.559 --> 00:13:18.039 with a sacrifice, because the sacrifice has already been given. 283 00:13:18.159 --> 00:13:21.399 Huh in that way that you know, that's completely not 284 00:13:21.519 --> 00:13:24.240 relevant for ours even to fall along with that. 285 00:13:24.320 --> 00:13:27.679 In the Life Application Study Bible, there's a note about that. 286 00:13:27.720 --> 00:13:30.320 It says, although the Bible does not recoverd Saul's act 287 00:13:30.399 --> 00:13:32.600 of vengeance against the Gibba Kights, it was apparently a 288 00:13:32.639 --> 00:13:34.639 serious crime making guilty. 289 00:13:34.240 --> 00:13:35.159 Of their blood. 290 00:13:35.320 --> 00:13:37.799 Still, why were Saul's sons killed for the murders of 291 00:13:37.799 --> 00:13:38.639 their father committed? 292 00:13:38.960 --> 00:13:40.200 And this kind of gives us context. 293 00:13:40.279 --> 00:13:43.200 What you're sharing there is that in many Near Eastern cultures, 294 00:13:43.320 --> 00:13:46.519 including Israel, an entire family was held guilty for the 295 00:13:46.559 --> 00:13:49.320 crime of the father because the family was considered an 296 00:13:49.360 --> 00:13:54.120 indissoluble unit. Saul broke the vow that Israels had made 297 00:13:54.159 --> 00:13:56.879 to the Gibbei Ights. This was a serious offense against 298 00:13:56.879 --> 00:13:59.679 God's law, which is numbers thirty. And either David was 299 00:13:59.720 --> 00:14:01.679 falling in the custom of treating the families a unit, 300 00:14:01.840 --> 00:14:04.519 or Saul's sons were guilty of helping Saul kill the 301 00:14:04.559 --> 00:14:07.120 Gibbean Kights. So what's saying here is maybe they were 302 00:14:07.120 --> 00:14:10.440 actually guilty for killing the Gibbon Kites. Maybe Saul's sons 303 00:14:10.440 --> 00:14:12.440 were involved in that, they were actually like they were 304 00:14:12.480 --> 00:14:14.799 a part of it, or maybe it's just a part 305 00:14:14.840 --> 00:14:17.399 of the custom in which they they they had to 306 00:14:17.399 --> 00:14:19.600 be like an eye for an eye type situation there. 307 00:14:20.000 --> 00:14:23.440 But either way, you're right, I'm so thankful that that's 308 00:14:23.720 --> 00:14:24.639 that we don't have to. 309 00:14:24.960 --> 00:14:27.440 Yeah, yeah, because again, the sacrifice has already been made 310 00:14:27.480 --> 00:14:30.600 for us since right, so there's no restitution that we 311 00:14:30.639 --> 00:14:32.200 would have to pay, you know, of the life of 312 00:14:32.240 --> 00:14:36.559 somebody because of because of what we've done. 313 00:14:36.799 --> 00:14:40.320 But nevertheless, here's David. He's coming to the end of 314 00:14:40.320 --> 00:14:40.759 his reign. 315 00:14:40.879 --> 00:14:44.600 He's still dealing with all that, you know, all that stuff, 316 00:14:45.039 --> 00:14:48.279 and and hey, you know what I absolutely love about this. 317 00:14:48.360 --> 00:14:51.600 It's hilarious is that he said, Paul says, or the 318 00:14:51.600 --> 00:14:59.159 Bible says that that David spared miss Phibisheth, who was 319 00:14:59.200 --> 00:15:03.279 Saul's grandson. But so then he gave them Saul's two sons, 320 00:15:03.399 --> 00:15:04.879 Amri and Phibischeff. 321 00:15:05.000 --> 00:15:08.639 Yeah, I thought it was interesting. Which is another name? Okay, 322 00:15:08.840 --> 00:15:12.639 just like there's three James. Yeah, yeah, he's another son. 323 00:15:12.679 --> 00:15:16.559 There's different John's. In fact, it even says uh uh. 324 00:15:18.320 --> 00:15:20.080 At the end of the chapter it says when he 325 00:15:20.159 --> 00:15:22.320 defied and talked to Israel, he was killed by Jonathan, 326 00:15:22.720 --> 00:15:25.879 the son of David's brother Shamiah. And when you hear Jonathan, 327 00:15:25.960 --> 00:15:30.080 you think of Salson Jonathan, right, So there's different phibischeffs. 328 00:15:30.080 --> 00:15:33.759 And apparently that was a name good enough. I'd like 329 00:15:33.799 --> 00:15:36.440 to meet him. Would you imagine that being a name 330 00:15:36.480 --> 00:15:38.600 good enough? Yeah, that's wild. By the way. 331 00:15:38.639 --> 00:15:41.600 I I had a guy, a kid who I actually 332 00:15:41.679 --> 00:15:44.759 knew in the second grade, and his name was Epifanio. 333 00:15:45.600 --> 00:15:49.440 Wow, have you ever met? I think it's biblical, though 334 00:15:51.919 --> 00:15:54.120 it's gonna be in one of these verses, that's for sure. Yeah, 335 00:15:54.120 --> 00:15:56.960 for sure, I'm gonna be reading it. Yeah. One thing 336 00:15:56.960 --> 00:15:58.559 I say to and I do love the fact, you 337 00:15:58.559 --> 00:15:58.960 know you're. 338 00:15:58.799 --> 00:16:00.759 Reading this and you're seeing that song. All sons were 339 00:16:00.799 --> 00:16:04.120 held responsible for even either as father's actions or their own. 340 00:16:04.120 --> 00:16:07.080 Either way, there's a serial I mean death because of that. 341 00:16:07.120 --> 00:16:09.799 But I'm so thankful, aren't we thankful that we aren't 342 00:16:10.120 --> 00:16:12.320 judged in that same way? As you mentioned earlier? There 343 00:16:12.360 --> 00:16:15.879 is I do believe that there is generational sin, but 344 00:16:16.000 --> 00:16:17.600 at the same time, I love the fact that we 345 00:16:17.600 --> 00:16:22.360 aren't held accountable for the mistakes of our parents or grandparents, 346 00:16:22.840 --> 00:16:25.320 and and and and the more you get to know God, 347 00:16:25.320 --> 00:16:26.440 the more you get to know Scripture, you get to 348 00:16:26.440 --> 00:16:28.080 see in the New Testament, you begin to realize that 349 00:16:28.120 --> 00:16:30.399 He separates our sin as far as the east is 350 00:16:30.440 --> 00:16:32.480 from the west. And I think it's it's one of 351 00:16:32.480 --> 00:16:34.759 those things when I think on, you know, my parents, 352 00:16:34.759 --> 00:16:36.879 my grandparents and things that happen, and I'm just so 353 00:16:36.919 --> 00:16:39.279 thankful that we have a God who gives us a 354 00:16:39.320 --> 00:16:41.720 new chance, a new start, a fresh start at life, 355 00:16:42.240 --> 00:16:44.399 and wipes us late clean. And we should be thankful 356 00:16:44.399 --> 00:16:45.000 for that as well. 357 00:16:45.320 --> 00:16:48.399 Yeah, you know, it's it's interesting, but don't you find 358 00:16:48.440 --> 00:16:49.799 yourself becoming. 359 00:16:50.120 --> 00:16:52.320 More and more like your parents the order you. 360 00:16:52.279 --> 00:16:55.200 Get and uh, And that's a good thing in a 361 00:16:55.240 --> 00:16:58.240 lot of ways, because you know the good side of 362 00:16:58.279 --> 00:17:02.639 your parents. But at the same time, many times we 363 00:17:02.879 --> 00:17:07.079 are victims of becoming you know, the sort of the 364 00:17:07.240 --> 00:17:11.759 we sort of emulate the bad side, right, And so 365 00:17:11.839 --> 00:17:16.200 it's interesting how as much head knowledge as we can 366 00:17:16.480 --> 00:17:19.839 have in our lives, we behave in such ways we 367 00:17:19.880 --> 00:17:22.319 don't even recognize it in ourself. And then we takes 368 00:17:22.319 --> 00:17:24.839 somebody like our wives or somebody close to us, a 369 00:17:24.880 --> 00:17:26.759 good friend and says, hey, you're acting like your dad, 370 00:17:27.599 --> 00:17:28.880 and you'd say, no, I'm not. 371 00:17:28.960 --> 00:17:30.880 And then you step back and you go, oh, my gosh, 372 00:17:31.359 --> 00:17:33.400 I am I'm doing the same things. I'm doing the 373 00:17:33.480 --> 00:17:35.160 same things, you know. 374 00:17:35.279 --> 00:17:37.559 Jeff Forrester always says that the reason why he doesn't 375 00:17:37.599 --> 00:17:40.640 drink alcohol not because taking a sip of alcohol is 376 00:17:40.640 --> 00:17:43.640 a sin, because that's not a sin. But he says, 377 00:17:43.680 --> 00:17:45.400 the reason why I'll do it is because he said 378 00:17:46.279 --> 00:17:49.559 my parents, my parents were alcoholics, right, or at least 379 00:17:49.599 --> 00:17:52.480 his dad was. And he says, so he goes, I 380 00:17:52.519 --> 00:17:56.559 am probably a predisposed alcoholic, and so therefore he goes, 381 00:17:56.599 --> 00:17:59.000 I'm pretty sure that in fact, he's said that before. 382 00:17:59.480 --> 00:18:00.960 But he doesn't take a drink. And he's over in 383 00:18:01.000 --> 00:18:03.880 another country and they offer him a drink. He goes, oh, no, no, no, 384 00:18:03.960 --> 00:18:08.200 thank you. I'm an alcoholic and it's the best way 385 00:18:08.200 --> 00:18:10.440 to get out of it, right, And they're like, well, okay, 386 00:18:10.480 --> 00:18:14.359 we're not gonna Uh. It's like, uh, I just saw 387 00:18:14.400 --> 00:18:18.000 a movie Crazy Stupid Love with Steve Corell and and 388 00:18:18.119 --> 00:18:20.799 uh and it's Marissa Tome who He's in a bar 389 00:18:21.119 --> 00:18:22.440 and he walks over and he goes, let me buy 390 00:18:22.440 --> 00:18:24.480 you a drink, and she says, no, no, thank you, 391 00:18:24.559 --> 00:18:26.000 and he goes, come on, let me buy you a drink, 392 00:18:26.000 --> 00:18:29.319 and she goes, I'm five years sober. And the waitress 393 00:18:29.319 --> 00:18:30.839 comes over and she goes, we're gonna get for you, 394 00:18:30.880 --> 00:18:31.559 and he goes. 395 00:18:31.319 --> 00:18:34.119 Go away forever, do not come back here. 396 00:18:34.200 --> 00:18:36.400 Right, that's right, you trying to be all smooth, try 397 00:18:36.400 --> 00:18:38.039 to pick her up, but then realized it was not 398 00:18:38.079 --> 00:18:38.839 the right It's. 399 00:18:38.680 --> 00:18:40.880 Not the right way. But that'll get you out of it. 400 00:18:40.920 --> 00:18:42.720 But the reason why he says to do that, and 401 00:18:42.839 --> 00:18:45.799