WEBVTT NOTE This file was generated by Descript 00:00:00.272 --> 00:00:03.789 Raph: Just thinking about like the people involved in your business 00:00:03.789 --> 00:00:05.162 you're, what you're creating here. 00:00:05.522 --> 00:00:09.342 I feel like the way you talk about like what it is and giving 00:00:09.342 --> 00:00:14.720 parents a space to take a break and kids having a fun experience. 00:00:14.720 --> 00:00:17.002 I, It sounds very community minded. 00:00:17.397 --> 00:00:20.177 and kind of curious if you can talk a little bit about that, like 00:00:20.177 --> 00:00:22.445 what community means, for you 00:00:22.445 --> 00:00:25.745 Alex: Community is such a big importance to what I'm doing at Bubbles. 00:00:26.115 --> 00:00:30.375 As a mom who went through postpartum depression, not having an outlet 00:00:30.395 --> 00:00:34.040 to just get out of the house, with my baby at the time and talk 00:00:34.040 --> 00:00:36.030 to other moms was a challenge. 00:00:36.080 --> 00:00:39.840 I managed to get through it and I did find my community, but I want 00:00:39.840 --> 00:00:43.490 Bubbles to be that space for new parents who do need an outlet. 00:00:43.620 --> 00:00:47.330 If you need a cup of coffee, come over, like I'll hold your baby for you 00:00:47.330 --> 00:00:49.360 while you sit and have a little cry. 00:00:49.420 --> 00:00:50.230 Like, no problem. 00:00:50.410 --> 00:00:52.180 It doesn't have to just be about hair. 00:00:52.180 --> 00:00:56.180 It really is about creating that environment for people to go 00:00:56.180 --> 00:00:57.160 through what they're going through. 00:00:57.160 --> 00:01:00.960 So these things exist, but they don't really exist in 00:01:00.960 --> 00:01:02.640 the area where I'm living now. 00:01:02.650 --> 00:01:07.970 So just creating a business that really puts women and families at the 00:01:08.040 --> 00:01:10.260 forefront is really important to me. 00:01:10.300 --> 00:01:12.990 I'm not going to do it if it doesn't work for women. 00:01:14.010 --> 00:01:18.980 And then the other aspect of the impact from the kids perspective is again, giving 00:01:18.980 --> 00:01:20.630 them a space where they can be themselves 00:01:21.710 --> 00:01:25.630 and, Letting them use things that are designed for them. 00:01:25.640 --> 00:01:27.710 Nothing is designed for children. 00:01:27.720 --> 00:01:29.570 There's playgrounds and stuff like that. 00:01:29.620 --> 00:01:31.010 But those are public spaces. 00:01:31.020 --> 00:01:34.726 There's not that many businesses that are like, Hey, what do you want to do? 00:01:34.746 --> 00:01:36.106 What's going to be fun for you? 00:01:36.116 --> 00:01:37.076 Let's do it. 00:01:37.106 --> 00:01:42.176 Raph: Hey folks and welcome to another episode of the sustainable tech podcast. 00:01:42.416 --> 00:01:42.836 Today. 00:01:42.866 --> 00:01:45.206 I've got another amazing guest. 00:01:45.206 --> 00:01:47.906 I met her at startup Fest during the summer. 00:01:48.326 --> 00:01:52.286 And I just was really inspired by the way, she talked about her business, her 00:01:52.286 --> 00:01:56.546 background, the things she'd been doing and the intersection of technology, 00:01:56.546 --> 00:02:00.176 community building, and all kinds of other stuff that just kind of bubbled 00:02:00.176 --> 00:02:04.596 together and bubbled is really the, the word to use here because she 00:02:04.596 --> 00:02:09.876 is Alex Weaver Crawford founder of bubbles hair care for kids and she's 00:02:09.876 --> 00:02:15.636 got an extensive background in design in communications in the tech sector. 00:02:15.816 --> 00:02:20.136 And she's applying that stuff in a bunch of different ways with this new 00:02:20.136 --> 00:02:22.326 venture bubbles haircare for kids. 00:02:22.326 --> 00:02:25.836 Before the interview, it really struck me the way she talked about 00:02:25.836 --> 00:02:31.056 community and purpose and these things in terms of building a business but 00:02:31.056 --> 00:02:35.436 that felt so much more concrete after I interviewed her for the podcast. 00:02:35.466 --> 00:02:39.966 I think what she's building and this sort of community centered effort to create a 00:02:39.966 --> 00:02:44.946 space that feels supportive for parents, for women, for kids is really inspiring. 00:02:45.046 --> 00:02:46.936 So I hope you enjoy listening to the interview. 00:02:46.936 --> 00:02:49.096 As much as I enjoyed recording it. 00:02:49.096 --> 00:02:50.506 Here's my chat with Alex. 00:02:50.729 --> 00:02:51.419 Hey Alex! 00:02:52.133 --> 00:02:52.653 Alex: Hi, Raph. 00:02:52.703 --> 00:02:52.943 How's 00:02:52.999 --> 00:02:53.909 Raph: How's it going? 00:02:55.329 --> 00:02:56.889 I'm doing alright, how are you? 00:02:57.193 --> 00:02:57.833 Alex: I'm good. 00:02:57.833 --> 00:02:59.253 I spoke over you, didn't I? 00:02:59.283 --> 00:02:59.993 No, I'm great. 00:02:59.993 --> 00:03:02.323 It's so great to see you again after StartupFest. 00:03:03.124 --> 00:03:03.904 Raph: You too! 00:03:03.954 --> 00:03:05.348 How have things been? 00:03:05.348 --> 00:03:06.548 Alex: Things have been really good. 00:03:06.588 --> 00:03:11.188 Uh, I've been traveling quite a bit this summer, uh, and, uh, we're just 00:03:11.188 --> 00:03:15.338 about to sign the lease on Bubble's flagship location here in St. 00:03:15.348 --> 00:03:15.768 John. 00:03:16.049 --> 00:03:17.089 Raph: Amazing! 00:03:17.159 --> 00:03:17.419 Cool! 00:03:18.219 --> 00:03:23.329 So, yeah, with that, how about you tell us a little bit about Bubbles? 00:03:23.329 --> 00:03:24.259 What is Bubbles? 00:03:24.263 --> 00:03:24.873 Alex: sure. 00:03:24.913 --> 00:03:30.523 Um, Bubbles Haircare for Kids is a hair salon concept exclusively 00:03:30.533 --> 00:03:33.663 for kids that makes it fun for them and easy for their parents. 00:03:34.223 --> 00:03:36.323 So really, it's a hair salon. 00:03:37.118 --> 00:03:38.028 Kids can come in. 00:03:38.378 --> 00:03:44.088 We've got decor that's specific for kids, make them feel comfortable and welcome. 00:03:44.088 --> 00:03:47.568 And the process is easy for parents, so they can prepay for appointments. 00:03:48.298 --> 00:03:51.188 Moms or parents with long hair can come in for blowouts while 00:03:51.188 --> 00:03:52.928 their kids play in our play area. 00:03:53.588 --> 00:03:56.558 It's really just something that's designed for kids because there's 00:03:56.568 --> 00:04:00.098 not a lot of things in this world that are specifically for kids. 00:04:01.588 --> 00:04:03.248 Kind of giving parents a bit of a break. 00:04:03.248 --> 00:04:06.308 So, you know come have a coffee get a blowout get your kids 00:04:06.308 --> 00:04:08.568 a haircut and Just have fun. 00:04:08.608 --> 00:04:10.028 That's that's what we're all about 00:04:10.559 --> 00:04:11.136 Raph: That's awesome. 00:04:11.359 --> 00:04:16.739 So I'm kind of curious, how, how did you, A, decide uh, that you wanted to, 00:04:16.769 --> 00:04:21.009 to build this and sort of what, what in your uh, led you to to figure out 00:04:21.029 --> 00:04:22.989 that there was, there was this problem? 00:04:23.049 --> 00:04:24.409 Um, yeah, what happened? 00:04:24.443 --> 00:04:25.973 Alex: It's a really good question. 00:04:25.973 --> 00:04:30.783 And what happened to you is sort of like a good way to frame it to be honest Maybe 00:04:30.783 --> 00:04:34.893 I'll dive into a bit of my background with the caveat of you don't have to do 00:04:34.903 --> 00:04:38.753 what you studied in school to do what you want to do with your life, because, 00:04:39.233 --> 00:04:43.253 I mean, I started off with a business degree, and then I dabbled in fine 00:04:43.253 --> 00:04:47.053 art, so I ended up with an undergrad in business and fine art, so I knew I 00:04:47.324 --> 00:04:47.784 Raph: Love it. 00:04:47.943 --> 00:04:54.273 Alex: creative, but my, like, Calgary oil and gas family past forced me into 00:04:54.273 --> 00:04:55.843 business, but I'm so glad I haven't. 00:04:56.263 --> 00:04:57.123 I'll get back to that. 00:04:57.603 --> 00:05:02.153 Um, so with the creativity part, I decided to go down the path of 00:05:02.203 --> 00:05:04.283 design and specifically architecture. 00:05:04.283 --> 00:05:07.773 So I have an undergrad, another undergrad in architecture and 00:05:07.773 --> 00:05:09.133 a master's in architecture. 00:05:09.143 --> 00:05:14.053 So that's kind of, I spent my twenties as a full time student 00:05:14.093 --> 00:05:17.423 and, um, you know, popped out at 30 being like, Oh, what the heck? 00:05:17.553 --> 00:05:20.833 Like, What am I actually going to do with my life now that I have 00:05:20.833 --> 00:05:25.263 this, like, massive skill set, um, and, and not really interested in 00:05:25.263 --> 00:05:28.023 pursuing capital A architecture. 00:05:28.043 --> 00:05:31.393 And when I say architecture, I mean building science and not software 00:05:31.393 --> 00:05:32.623 engineering and architecture. 00:05:33.273 --> 00:05:34.928 I might as well mention that on this podcast. 00:05:35.024 --> 00:05:36.154 Raph: On the tech podcast, yeah. 00:05:36.918 --> 00:05:37.148 Alex: Yeah. 00:05:37.538 --> 00:05:41.658 Um, so right after graduation, I went into opening essentially 00:05:41.668 --> 00:05:43.028 my own creative agency. 00:05:43.048 --> 00:05:46.198 So with my husband, he's a software engineer. 00:05:46.558 --> 00:05:48.798 We did website design, branding. 00:05:48.838 --> 00:05:52.568 I know you and I spoke about this quite a bit at StartupFest because it's what 00:05:52.568 --> 00:05:57.908 you're doing too, uh, with really the goal of just making things look good and 00:05:57.908 --> 00:05:59.858 work really well for other businesses. 00:05:59.898 --> 00:06:01.548 So I had this. 00:06:01.548 --> 00:06:06.508 This, I got to work with great companies and small shops and small businesses and 00:06:06.518 --> 00:06:10.938 artists create how they want to present themselves in the real world through 00:06:10.938 --> 00:06:13.408 architecture and branding and online. 00:06:14.098 --> 00:06:18.978 But I always wanted to do something for me and I never really got to do that. 00:06:18.998 --> 00:06:23.568 And, and I, I was always looking for something that, that I could 00:06:23.568 --> 00:06:28.568 design and build like how I had been designing and building for my clients. 00:06:29.188 --> 00:06:30.238 in my creative firm. 00:06:31.128 --> 00:06:34.938 So that was, that was always kind of low key in the background, 00:06:34.938 --> 00:06:36.198 like, what are you going to do? 00:06:36.208 --> 00:06:38.258 You're going to put, you're going to want to build something. 00:06:38.298 --> 00:06:39.758 How are you going to make this happen? 00:06:40.278 --> 00:06:44.378 Um, and then I became a parent seven years ago. 00:06:44.378 --> 00:06:47.358 And my daughter has, Really thick, long hair. 00:06:47.358 --> 00:06:51.468 Like, well, she was born with quite long hair for, for a baby, but she has long 00:06:51.468 --> 00:06:56.188 hair now and it was like impossible to get her hair cut and everything sucked. 00:06:56.248 --> 00:06:59.208 Like she didn't like going to the hairdresser. 00:06:59.238 --> 00:07:02.953 I love going to hairdresser, so I thought it would be this neat experience that 00:07:02.953 --> 00:07:07.013 I bring my kids to the hairdresser, my hairstylist didn't want to cut kids hair. 00:07:08.013 --> 00:07:08.433 Yeah. 00:07:08.433 --> 00:07:09.453 And I was like, Oh crap. 00:07:09.473 --> 00:07:11.013 Like, where do I take her? 00:07:11.043 --> 00:07:14.053 Cause she has, she needs a haircut anyway. 00:07:14.813 --> 00:07:18.673 So, you know, I dabbled with like at home haircuts and she looked like a bit of like 00:07:18.673 --> 00:07:25.533 an indie rock star for a bit with like uneven bangs and like mismatched lengths. 00:07:25.593 --> 00:07:28.003 And I mean, she looks great. 00:07:28.363 --> 00:07:32.313 Whatever she does doesn't matter, but it didn't feel like how I wanted it. 00:07:32.853 --> 00:07:36.323 And growing up in Calgary, we had this salon called Beaners 00:07:36.333 --> 00:07:40.333 Fun Cuts for Kids, and they did, and that's what I grew up with. 00:07:40.343 --> 00:07:44.853 So you just, I was kind of like, where's the kids hair salon in Atlantic Canada? 00:07:45.503 --> 00:07:48.913 Um, so that was kind of, again, in the back of my mind. 00:07:49.383 --> 00:07:54.903 Um, and about 2018, my husband and I went to Australia, 00:07:54.903 --> 00:07:56.363 where he's from, in Melbourne. 00:07:56.883 --> 00:07:59.743 And, um, they have kids hair salons, and we brought our 00:07:59.743 --> 00:08:01.743 daughter into one of these salons. 00:08:01.843 --> 00:08:07.483 And I looked around and I was like, this is an amazing experience for her. 00:08:07.913 --> 00:08:10.643 There's chairs that are shaped like airplanes. 00:08:10.713 --> 00:08:12.643 Um, everybody is really nice. 00:08:13.173 --> 00:08:14.483 Things are child sized. 00:08:14.483 --> 00:08:17.673 So, you know, there's low, low level sinks. 00:08:17.683 --> 00:08:20.043 So when she goes to the washroom, she can wash her hands and 00:08:20.043 --> 00:08:21.753 it's right sized for her. 00:08:21.783 --> 00:08:22.853 But that never happens. 00:08:22.853 --> 00:08:24.403 Always a really great experience. 00:08:25.128 --> 00:08:26.808 That really set it off for me, Raph. 00:08:26.808 --> 00:08:28.178 And that's when I was like, I can do this. 00:08:28.328 --> 00:08:29.508 I can do this better. 00:08:29.548 --> 00:08:29.818 And 00:08:29.888 --> 00:08:33.758 it's no doubt on where we went, but using that skillset that I talked 00:08:33.758 --> 00:08:38.828 about, I can design and build and market and brand and create an experience. 00:08:39.428 --> 00:08:41.168 That's really fun for kids. 00:08:41.598 --> 00:08:44.398 And I don't need to hire anybody to do it like I have it. 00:08:44.478 --> 00:08:45.328 Oh, caveat. 00:08:45.368 --> 00:08:46.278 I don't cut hair. 00:08:46.308 --> 00:08:47.468 I actually have to 00:08:47.468 --> 00:08:47.898 hire 00:08:48.019 --> 00:08:49.289 Raph: That is, that is one thing. 00:08:49.818 --> 00:08:50.128 Alex: Yeah. 00:08:50.468 --> 00:08:53.368 So besides the actual cutting of hair, which I'm sure we'll get into, 00:08:54.194 --> 00:08:54.544 Raph: Yeah. 00:08:54.558 --> 00:08:56.948 Alex: that's kind of how I got to where I am. 00:08:56.988 --> 00:08:58.703 That's what happened to me. 00:08:58.823 --> 00:09:00.423 You want to open a kid's hair salon. 00:09:01.264 --> 00:09:01.614 Raph: Nice. 00:09:01.654 --> 00:09:03.024 I love I'm kind of okay. 00:09:03.024 --> 00:09:06.654 So you, you decide you want to do this thing that you've seen in a 00:09:06.654 --> 00:09:10.654 couple other places, and you think you can bring your skill set to 00:09:10.664 --> 00:09:13.051 improve the experience, the business. 00:09:13.051 --> 00:09:17.534 what, What specifically do you think, like your, your background, uh, 00:09:17.544 --> 00:09:21.409 like is, what is in your background that, that's going to make this, uh, 00:09:21.519 --> 00:09:24.719 A special, different, like, what's the unique thing about bubbles? 00:09:24.993 --> 00:09:29.903 Alex: Well, you, with my skillset, it really is that kind of merge of design, 00:09:29.983 --> 00:09:34.433 both physical design, so architecture and spatial building, um, mixed with 00:09:34.433 --> 00:09:39.803 the branding and then mixed kind of with my husband's skillset of creating, um, 00:09:39.873 --> 00:09:43.353 technological solutions that work better. 00:09:43.363 --> 00:09:47.353 So an example of that is, oh my God, like, I don't know if you have 00:09:47.353 --> 00:09:49.333 it out in Vancouver, you're in BC. 00:09:49.804 --> 00:09:51.054 Raph: I am in Vancouver. 00:09:51.113 --> 00:09:54.553 Alex: Um, like if you go to a barbershop, sometimes you 00:09:54.603 --> 00:09:57.143 can't even pay with your card. 00:09:57.163 --> 00:09:58.313 Like it's cash only. 00:09:58.833 --> 00:10:00.883 So like things like, Hey, guess what? 00:10:00.893 --> 00:10:05.313 We're going to be able to offer you payment with your card. 00:10:05.323 --> 00:10:07.353 You can tap or you can prepay. 00:10:07.353 --> 00:10:07.793 So when you're 00:10:07.844 --> 00:10:08.794 Raph: Online booking? 00:10:08.827 --> 00:10:10.653 Alex: your kid, you can online book. 00:10:10.693 --> 00:10:12.213 So it's just those types of things. 00:10:12.253 --> 00:10:13.133 Yeah, I know. 00:10:13.983 --> 00:10:19.283 How, how is it 2024 and like 90 percent of hair salons aren't using. 00:10:19.953 --> 00:10:23.043 easily accessible technology to help their processes. 00:10:23.063 --> 00:10:27.573 So mix kind of the design aspect and the marketing from my past with like 00:10:27.803 --> 00:10:31.033 the ability to apply, um, technology. 00:10:31.363 --> 00:10:34.063 And I think it's really an easy thing for us to do. 00:10:34.063 --> 00:10:35.803 That's not easy for everybody else. 00:10:36.244 --> 00:10:38.604 Raph: Yeah, that, that makes a lot of sense. 00:10:38.674 --> 00:10:42.934 And on the flip side, okay, so that's what you bring to the table 00:10:42.934 --> 00:10:44.714 and, and from your background. 00:10:45.269 --> 00:10:48.059 And then brick and mortar, like, I feel like that's very different. 00:10:48.069 --> 00:10:53.389 You didn't say anything previously about ever doing anything brick and mortar. 00:10:53.419 --> 00:10:53.969 So 00:10:54.579 --> 00:10:56.499 what's what's that side of things? 00:10:56.533 --> 00:10:57.913 Alex: It's, it's stressful. 00:10:57.913 --> 00:11:03.383 And I think, um, as we talked about in Montreal at StartupFest, I've been looking 00:11:03.383 --> 00:11:09.693 at this physical location to open the shop for like months now and like, Somehow 00:11:09.713 --> 00:11:12.643 the landlord has, like, graciously let me 00:11:13.503 --> 00:11:16.003 delay and delay and delay signing the lease. 00:11:16.293 --> 00:11:20.313 It is scary, and I don't have a lot of experience in that, but again, 00:11:20.473 --> 00:11:23.583 I do have experience, um, you know, we've done a little bit of 00:11:23.583 --> 00:11:25.453 residential development, for example. 00:11:26.423 --> 00:11:30.283 So I have that experience where it's not, again, it's not brick and mortar 00:11:30.283 --> 00:11:32.263 shop, but it is physically building. 00:11:32.873 --> 00:11:37.643 I know it's still not the same, but, um, another great thing, and I'll give a 00:11:37.643 --> 00:11:43.123 plug to Propel, which is an accelerator that I'm currently with, they pair 00:11:43.123 --> 00:11:48.523 you up with a mentor and my mentor, had exited after building a successful 00:11:48.523 --> 00:11:50.743 chain of restaurants in Atlantic Canada. 00:11:50.743 --> 00:11:56.413 And his wife is a hairstylist, so having him as part of my team, although not 00:11:56.413 --> 00:12:00.283 formally, he doesn't have any stake in the business, but having him to talk to 00:12:00.283 --> 00:12:02.473 every week and talk about things like. 00:12:02.473 --> 00:12:07.793 Is this lease look okay to you or is it going to like screw me over? 00:12:07.813 --> 00:12:11.523 Those types of questions from somebody who has gone through the brick and 00:12:11.533 --> 00:12:16.243 mortar experience where he had not done that in the past has been really 00:12:16.243 --> 00:12:19.403 helpful and has like bolstered my confidence to be able to do it. 00:12:19.874 --> 00:12:20.294 Raph: nice. 00:12:20.324 --> 00:12:21.024 That's awesome. 00:12:21.534 --> 00:12:25.704 Um, I'm curious, what's been like the most, uh, I don't know, the most different 00:12:25.714 --> 00:12:28.634 sort of thing, like the thing that you've learned that you're like, oh, that 00:12:28.634 --> 00:12:31.154 is, that is not what I was expecting. 00:12:31.303 --> 00:12:34.743 Alex: Um, the hair is the hair industry in general. 00:12:34.753 --> 00:12:37.223 Like, um, let me give you an example. 00:12:37.433 --> 00:12:41.441 And I was looking for employees and I was like, oh, great, I'll put an ad out. 00:12:41.901 --> 00:12:46.275 You can't advertise for a barber and a hairdresser at the same time. 00:12:46.295 --> 00:12:48.295 You have to be one or the other. 00:12:48.600 --> 00:12:48.970 These are 00:12:48.970 --> 00:12:54.930 like two boring factions, like, you, you can't be a salon and a barber shop 00:12:54.960 --> 00:12:59.060 at the same time, so there's no way I could hide, there's, and this is, 00:12:59.070 --> 00:13:00.890 this is kind of like topical in St. 00:13:00.890 --> 00:13:04.030 John because there's so many barber schools here, but there's 00:13:04.140 --> 00:13:06.030 very few hair stylist schools. 00:13:06.440 --> 00:13:09.210 So I was like, great, I'll open this hair salon and I'll hire barbers. 00:13:09.930 --> 00:13:12.850 No, like you can't get insurance. 00:13:12.880 --> 00:13:17.290 If you do that, you are not going to be able to like, please either association. 00:13:17.300 --> 00:13:22.730 You will not be able to get a certificate of business, like from either of 00:13:22.770 --> 00:13:24.270 them, if you try to mix the two. 00:13:24.270 --> 00:13:28.850 So early on, I learned that they're very different, but. 00:13:29.190 --> 00:13:31.800 They're not different, but they're different in that you can't, you 00:13:31.800 --> 00:13:33.580 can't have both at the same time. 00:13:33.620 --> 00:13:35.860 So that's been really interesting. 00:13:35.910 --> 00:13:40.220 Um, learning about what motivates hairstylists as employees has 00:13:40.220 --> 00:13:42.540 really been a big thing for me. 00:13:42.590 --> 00:13:47.490 What I've landed on in terms of the HR package and compensation is really 00:13:47.490 --> 00:13:51.165 like, hey, I'll pay you more and you don't have to deal with the day to 00:13:51.195 --> 00:13:54.755 day drama that you might be dealing with at a high end hair salon where 00:13:54.755 --> 00:13:58.335 there's multiple egos and personalities. 00:13:58.395 --> 00:14:02.995 And no offense to any of them because they have helped me get to where I've been, 00:14:03.005 --> 00:14:07.255 but it was just something that I wasn't aware of before I started this journey. 00:14:07.705 --> 00:14:09.015 Raph: Yeah, that makes sense. 00:14:09.465 --> 00:14:12.983 Just thinking about like the people involved in your business 00:14:12.983 --> 00:14:14.355 you're, what you're creating here. 00:14:14.715 --> 00:14:18.535 I feel like the way you talk about like what it is and giving 00:14:18.535 --> 00:14:24.135 parents a space to take a break and kids having a fun experience. 00:14:24.135 --> 00:14:26.915 And I, it sounds very community minded. 00:14:27.530 --> 00:14:31.260 Um, and kind of curious if you can talk a little bit about that, like what 00:14:31.270 --> 00:14:38.510 community means, for you and maybe also dig into like, like, your vision 00:14:38.510 --> 00:14:43.250 and mission and your impact and yeah, how you frame all of those things. 00:14:43.375 --> 00:14:43.815 Alex: sure. 00:14:43.835 --> 00:14:45.495 I'm glad that you brought that up, Raph. 00:14:45.535 --> 00:14:49.065 Like, community is such a big importance to what I'm doing at Bubbles. 00:14:49.435 --> 00:14:53.695 As a mom who went through postpartum depression, not having an outlet 00:14:53.715 --> 00:14:57.360 to just get out of the house, with my baby at the time and talk 00:14:57.360 --> 00:14:59.350 to other moms was a challenge. 00:14:59.400 --> 00:15:03.160 I managed to get through it and I did find my community, but I want 00:15:03.160 --> 00:15:06.810 Bubbles to be that space for new parents who do need an outlet. 00:15:06.940 --> 00:15:10.650 If you need a cup of coffee, come over, like I'll hold your baby for you 00:15:10.650 --> 00:15:12.680 while you sit and have a little cry. 00:15:12.740 --> 00:15:13.550 Like, no problem. 00:15:13.730 --> 00:15:15.500 It doesn't have to just be about hair. 00:15:15.500 --> 00:15:19.500 It really is about creating that environment for people to go 00:15:19.500 --> 00:15:22.050 through what they're going through because they don't really exist. 00:15:22.080 --> 00:15:25.830 Honestly, at least where we are here in Atlantic, Canada. 00:15:26.260 --> 00:15:31.370 And that kind of runs into employees as well, as like a female 00:15:31.370 --> 00:15:33.110 entrepreneur and business owner. 00:15:33.530 --> 00:15:36.815 I want to make businesses that work for women. 00:15:37.185 --> 00:15:41.495 So, um, for example, the first stylist that I've hired, she's got a couple 00:15:41.495 --> 00:15:47.225 of kids and there's a gap between three and five where her kids are, 00:15:47.225 --> 00:15:48.685 maybe they're going to go to daycare. 00:15:48.685 --> 00:15:49.505 We're not sure yet. 00:15:49.505 --> 00:15:50.525 We're still working that out. 00:15:50.525 --> 00:15:50.905 But for 00:15:51.035 --> 00:15:51.655 Raph: yeah. 00:15:51.912 --> 00:15:54.122 Alex: it's important for that, that works for us. 00:15:54.122 --> 00:15:57.062 So we're going to, there's a space in the salon where we're going 00:15:57.062 --> 00:15:58.762 to be able to bring our children. 00:15:59.462 --> 00:16:00.012 Raph: I love it. 00:16:00.027 --> 00:16:03.017 Alex: Yeah, so it's like, I want this to be able to work for us. 00:16:03.017 --> 00:16:06.737 I don't want her to feel that, okay, it's either my career 00:16:06.777 --> 00:16:09.417 or being a stay at home mom. 00:16:09.817 --> 00:16:12.117 I'm really trying to bridge the gap and bring it together. 00:16:12.187 --> 00:16:16.027 This is not popular, but I did have, I've heard of this before. 00:16:16.027 --> 00:16:20.556 I mean, I've worked at architecture firms that have had childcare in the building. 00:16:20.557 --> 00:16:24.167 So these things exist, but they don't really exist. 00:16:25.137 --> 00:16:27.557 In this, in the area where I'm living now. 00:16:27.567 --> 00:16:33.637 So, um, again, just creating a business that really puts women and families at 00:16:33.637 --> 00:16:36.067 the forefront is really important to me. 00:16:36.107 --> 00:16:39.397 And I was talking to someone the other day, I'm not going to do 00:16:39.437 --> 00:16:41.207 it if it doesn't work for women. 00:16:42.187 --> 00:16:43.397 Like, I'm just not going to. 00:16:43.437 --> 00:16:46.120 So those things are really important to me. 00:16:46.130 --> 00:16:51.100 And then the other aspect of the impact from the kids perspective is again, giving 00:16:51.100 --> 00:16:52.750 them a space where they can be themselves 00:16:53.830 --> 00:16:58.230 and, you know, letting them use things that are designed for them. 00:16:58.240 --> 00:17:00.310 Nothing is designed for children. 00:17:00.320 --> 00:17:02.170 There's playgrounds and stuff like that. 00:17:02.170 --> 00:17:04.960 But, um, but those are public spaces. 00:17:04.970 --> 00:17:09.630 There's not that many businesses that are like, Hey, What do What do you want to do? 00:17:09.650 --> 00:17:11.010 What's going to be fun for you? 00:17:11.020 --> 00:17:11.980 Let's do it. 00:17:12.010 --> 00:17:17.160 So, um, and then because they have a space for themselves and, uh, stylists 00:17:17.160 --> 00:17:20.880 who are listening to what they want to do and how they want to project who they 00:17:20.880 --> 00:17:23.310 are through what their hair looks like. 00:17:23.680 --> 00:17:28.000 Uh, is really important and it builds confidence and, and self esteem. 00:17:28.000 --> 00:17:31.890 And that's the other half of it that's super important to me is I don't 00:17:31.890 --> 00:17:35.830 care what, what it looks like, but as long as those kids leave, leave 00:17:35.880 --> 00:17:41.080 the door feeling like they look a hundred percent to them, awesome. 00:17:41.645 --> 00:17:41.975 Raph: Nice. 00:17:42.295 --> 00:17:42.415 I 00:17:42.415 --> 00:17:42.865 love it. 00:17:43.060 --> 00:17:44.700 Alex: So that's really important to me too. 00:17:45.215 --> 00:17:45.665 Raph: Cool. 00:17:45.945 --> 00:17:51.185 Um, I'm, I want to go down a little path here that I don't know 00:17:51.205 --> 00:17:53.175 how, how we'll make, how we'll 00:17:53.370 --> 00:17:54.980 Alex: Go down the 00:17:55.475 --> 00:17:58.635 Raph: I'm kind of curious because this is a tech podcast after all. 00:17:58.880 --> 00:18:04.080 Like if you can talk a little bit more about like how tech fits into your 00:18:04.080 --> 00:18:08.920 business, whether it's operationally, whether it's on like the customer side, 00:18:08.950 --> 00:18:11.740 whether it's, um, any of those things. 00:18:11.800 --> 00:18:17.010 And I guess also more how like your background, uh, like helps 00:18:17.010 --> 00:18:20.730 you integrate those things and how you think about tech in the context 00:18:20.730 --> 00:18:22.950 of building a business like this. 00:18:23.010 --> 00:18:23.195 Mm 00:18:23.285 --> 00:18:27.532 Alex: Yeah, I, it's obviously a good thing to talk about for your podcast and for me. 00:18:27.532 --> 00:18:31.322 And I had a bit of time to think about this and like, what's my tech stack? 00:18:31.322 --> 00:18:35.612 Like I use it, I use so many different pieces of technology every day and 00:18:35.612 --> 00:18:37.392 I haven't even opened the doors yet. 00:18:37.442 --> 00:18:42.752 So like I mentioned, we use Square for POS, um, scheduling our appointments 00:18:42.752 --> 00:18:44.192 and scheduling our employees. 00:18:44.612 --> 00:18:45.952 Um, That's amazing. 00:18:45.982 --> 00:18:48.602 I've been really impressed with them actually, because I thought 00:18:48.682 --> 00:18:52.012 with my marketing experience, I would need to use HubSpot. 00:18:52.012 --> 00:18:56.208 And we do use that, but, but Square really has most of the CRM 00:18:56.228 --> 00:19:00.088 capabilities that I need, which is again, awesome, because it's a lower 00:19:00.088 --> 00:19:01.928 cost to just use one rather than two 00:19:02.188 --> 00:19:06.108 . Other things like for design wise, I use the Adobe Creative Suite to create 00:19:06.108 --> 00:19:10.453 a lot of my, um, Designs, and then bring them into Canva to create the assets 00:19:10.473 --> 00:19:12.293 with them so I can share with people. 00:19:12.293 --> 00:19:14.613 So, the ability to share things on Canva is great. 00:19:14.633 --> 00:19:16.413 And I used to be a Canva hater, but now 00:19:16.413 --> 00:19:16.533 I 00:19:16.674 --> 00:19:16.964 Raph: yeah, 00:19:17.243 --> 00:19:17.443 Alex: forget. 00:19:17.443 --> 00:19:18.823 Like, don't tell anybody. 00:19:19.354 --> 00:19:21.464 Raph: I have the same transition, 00:19:22.423 --> 00:19:24.103 Alex: It's like embarrassing to say almost. 00:19:24.163 --> 00:19:28.463 And the other thing that I use all the time is Chat GPT and like 00:19:28.543 --> 00:19:33.333 Canva's like native AI piece as well to help me write my content. 00:19:33.483 --> 00:19:35.593 Like, it's, it's good. 00:19:35.593 --> 00:19:39.913 And like, I know people were talking about it, but I was always kind of like, okay, 00:19:39.963 --> 00:19:41.313 I use it, but I don't talk about it. 00:19:41.323 --> 00:19:43.083 But I thought it'd be good to mention it on a podcast. 00:19:43.113 --> 00:19:44.283 Like, Like, 00:19:44.283 --> 00:19:45.323 I use Chat GPT. 00:19:45.663 --> 00:19:47.343 Yeah, I read it and have to edit it. 00:19:47.343 --> 00:19:47.593 But. 00:19:48.568 --> 00:19:52.648 Especially the Canva's AI, like, I feel like it's got my brand voice now. 00:19:52.648 --> 00:19:57.458 Like, we've really trained it to be able to use the type of tone that we want. 00:19:57.488 --> 00:19:59.078 So that's been really amazing. 00:19:59.448 --> 00:20:01.208 And it saves so much time. 00:20:01.238 --> 00:20:04.568 So, yes, definitely an AI adopter over here. 00:20:04.578 --> 00:20:06.388 And, You'd never think this. 00:20:06.518 --> 00:20:11.668 I remember at Startup Fest, somebody, we're in a loud networking setting. 00:20:11.698 --> 00:20:13.968 I think you were nearby because I told you about this. 00:20:14.508 --> 00:20:17.298 Um, and this lady couldn't quite hear what I said. 00:20:17.358 --> 00:20:21.268 And she goes, are you using AI to cut kids hair? 00:20:21.268 --> 00:20:26.378 No, but yeah, like, no, um, there's not like a Edward Scissorshand robot 00:20:27.358 --> 00:20:32.438 by like an LLM or whatever, but I use it in my marketing strategy 00:20:32.438 --> 00:20:33.518 and it's a huge tool for me. 00:20:33.578 --> 00:20:34.638 So, that's how I use it. 00:20:34.638 --> 00:20:38.828 And then on top of that, like I mentioned, we're building, um, our physical space. 00:20:38.838 --> 00:20:41.918 So I use AutoCAD and for 3D modeling, I use SketchUp. 00:20:41.948 --> 00:20:46.228 There's so much tech in my every day and it helps me be able to communicate with 00:20:46.228 --> 00:20:50.728 my customers and helps them be able to book and pay for their appointments and 00:20:50.728 --> 00:20:52.958 for me to help schedule my employees. 00:20:52.988 --> 00:20:58.263 So it really is a tech enabled startup and People would never know 00:20:58.263 --> 00:20:59.683 that if you don't talk about it. 00:21:00.164 --> 00:21:01.814 Raph: yeah, that's awesome, I love it. 00:21:02.174 --> 00:21:05.704 I'm curious, how do you, like, what's your process when you, like, 00:21:05.914 --> 00:21:08.484 how do you evaluate a technology? 00:21:08.484 --> 00:21:10.794 How do you decide, like, okay, this is going to be the thing 00:21:10.794 --> 00:21:12.594 I'm going to use, and why is it? 00:21:12.834 --> 00:21:13.204 I don't know. 00:21:13.224 --> 00:21:15.624 I have a tendency to just try everything and just be like, 00:21:15.624 --> 00:21:17.424 oh, cool, let's just, yeah. 00:21:17.523 --> 00:21:17.803 Alex: Yeah. 00:21:17.833 --> 00:21:19.233 I try, I've tried everything. 00:21:19.233 --> 00:21:23.443 Like I've, I've used a few different design softwares to kind of get 00:21:23.443 --> 00:21:27.003 where, to where I want, or like websites, another one, like, do I 00:21:27.003 --> 00:21:31.073 want to use a Squarespace site and pay for it for the rest of my life? 00:21:31.113 --> 00:21:34.523 Or can I actually make WordPress work for me without putting too 00:21:34.523 --> 00:21:39.093 much, you know, time and energy into making something that will inevitably 00:21:39.113 --> 00:21:40.613 break because a plugin won't work. 00:21:40.773 --> 00:21:42.223 And then it's so like 00:21:42.633 --> 00:21:43.943 I try everything too. 00:21:43.943 --> 00:21:48.783 And, and again, as, as a creative agency, like you guys, like you, it 00:21:48.783 --> 00:21:53.213 really depends on the application, but I've tried a lot of different things. 00:21:53.263 --> 00:21:55.233 And I, and I've really settled on what works. 00:21:55.253 --> 00:21:57.793 Again, the good example is like the HubSpot. 00:21:57.793 --> 00:22:02.753 I thought I would just give all my money to HubSpot and, and that would be great. 00:22:02.763 --> 00:22:06.043 And I could do all my, my intake forms and everything right there. 00:22:06.883 --> 00:22:09.683 But then when I found out that Square does it too at a much, 00:22:16.104 --> 00:22:16.464 Raph: Yeah. 00:22:16.724 --> 00:22:17.064 Yeah. 00:22:17.843 --> 00:22:20.163 Alex: And remember to cancel the subscriptions when you 00:22:20.163 --> 00:22:22.113 decide to not use it anymore. 00:22:22.113 --> 00:22:24.673 Because the amount of things that I'm just paying for in the 00:22:24.974 --> 00:22:26.334 Raph: So many subscriptions. 00:22:27.009 --> 00:22:27.429 Yep. 00:22:27.999 --> 00:22:32.059 I heard recently about like these, I mean, they're more enterprisy, 00:22:32.079 --> 00:22:36.349 but like the subscriptions to manage subscriptions, like tools to help 00:22:36.349 --> 00:22:38.339 you manage your SaaS products. 00:22:38.469 --> 00:22:42.859 I'm just like, I feel like soon we'll just have SaaS products to 00:22:42.859 --> 00:22:46.609 help manage the SaaS products that help manage the SaaS products. 00:22:46.609 --> 00:22:46.889 Like 00:22:47.003 --> 00:22:47.723 Alex: Oh my God. 00:22:48.143 --> 00:22:49.463 It's so, it's so crazy. 00:22:49.473 --> 00:22:51.183 It's a, it's a little meta thinking about that. 00:22:51.193 --> 00:22:51.793 It's a bit too much. 00:22:51.793 --> 00:22:54.763 To be honest. 00:22:54.779 --> 00:22:55.239 Raph: Yeah. 00:22:55.449 --> 00:22:55.819 Yeah. 00:22:56.419 --> 00:23:00.303 Um, I'm curious if you can like, tell me, so. 00:23:00.524 --> 00:23:02.434 I feel like you've just been an entrepreneur for 00:23:02.434 --> 00:23:03.924 for forever, it seems like. 00:23:04.271 --> 00:23:07.654 like, How did you, did you decide to step into entrepreneurship? 00:23:07.654 --> 00:23:09.624 Did you just kind of trip and fall into it? 00:23:09.664 --> 00:23:15.069 And like, maybe you can talk about Entrepreneurship specifically in, 00:23:15.199 --> 00:23:20.349 uh, in New Brunswick, like, uh, I've talked to, uh, Fred Lafarge 00:23:20.399 --> 00:23:24.529 a couple episodes ago, who spoke a little bit to that, but yeah, like, 00:23:24.529 --> 00:23:27.389 what's, what's your story like in that 00:23:27.389 --> 00:23:27.613 context? 00:23:27.613 --> 00:23:29.628 Yeah. 00:23:29.713 --> 00:23:32.933 Alex: one because I think the trip and fall analogy that 00:23:32.933 --> 00:23:34.793 you mentioned is very true. 00:23:34.843 --> 00:23:36.243 I didn't mean to do this. 00:23:36.393 --> 00:23:41.203 Like as someone who's studied so many different things and didn't feel like 00:23:41.203 --> 00:23:46.953 I fit into any of those traditional career paths, I felt lonely and 00:23:47.103 --> 00:23:49.303 like I didn't fit in to anything. 00:23:49.363 --> 00:23:52.793 It sounds so stupid saying it out loud, but like, I knew I didn't want 00:23:52.793 --> 00:23:56.843 to be an architect, but I wanted to learn design at the highest level. 00:23:57.093 --> 00:24:01.173 So when all my friends are going to get jobs at these amazing, world renowned 00:24:01.303 --> 00:24:03.943 firms, um, I didn't want to do that. 00:24:03.953 --> 00:24:04.843 I, I thought I could. 00:24:05.373 --> 00:24:09.453 Have more fun, make more money, design better and design more 00:24:09.493 --> 00:24:11.713 autonomously by doing it on my own. 00:24:11.733 --> 00:24:16.523 So I kind of lost that community of being an architect and you do 00:24:16.523 --> 00:24:20.323 the things that architects do, you know, or the same for business. 00:24:20.353 --> 00:24:23.513 Like I didn't, everybody from my graduating class at business school 00:24:23.513 --> 00:24:27.553 went and got a job at like Pepsi or L'Oreal in the marketing department. 00:24:27.593 --> 00:24:30.493 But I thought that was kind of like selling your soul to the devil, like 00:24:30.513 --> 00:24:35.603 no offense to all those friends, but I felt like I didn't have a place to fit. 00:24:35.623 --> 00:24:41.598 And through creating my own agency and now with Bubbles, I feel like you can 00:24:41.598 --> 00:24:46.448 control the narrative and it wasn't an intentional decision to say, yeah, I'm 00:24:46.448 --> 00:24:51.758 going to be an capital E entrepreneur, but it's, it's just something that 00:24:51.758 --> 00:24:53.488 you've tripped and fell and fell into. 00:24:53.488 --> 00:24:56.268 And then New Brunswick is an interesting one too. 00:24:56.268 --> 00:24:57.748 I'm glad that you mentioned Fred. 00:24:57.768 --> 00:25:01.448 I met him and I listened to his podcast that you guys did. 00:25:01.448 --> 00:25:06.378 And, and I have to echo, like there's, There's New Brunswick is a fun place 00:25:06.418 --> 00:25:10.078 because if you want to do something, I firmly believe you can do it. 00:25:10.078 --> 00:25:14.668 This is a bit random, but I moved from Guatemala to St. 00:25:14.668 --> 00:25:15.148 John, 00:25:15.198 --> 00:25:19.808 like, and, and we used to say todo es posible in San Juan del Norte. 00:25:19.818 --> 00:25:21.738 Like anything is possible in St. 00:25:21.748 --> 00:25:25.498 John of the North, because I felt like when I moved here, my 00:25:25.518 --> 00:25:27.498 community immediately opened. 00:25:27.598 --> 00:25:29.178 Everybody wanted to know. 00:25:29.603 --> 00:25:34.853 What I was doing, who I was how they could support me as I started 00:25:34.863 --> 00:25:36.663 my entrepreneurship journey. 00:25:36.673 --> 00:25:38.193 Like it was really supportive. 00:25:38.583 --> 00:25:41.593 So there, I found there was like an immediate community. 00:25:41.633 --> 00:25:44.213 They might have not been like a business community per se, but it 00:25:44.213 --> 00:25:48.043 was a creative community, a community of people who wanted to support 00:25:48.043 --> 00:25:49.863 somebody who was new to their city. 00:25:50.263 --> 00:25:51.233 So St. 00:25:51.233 --> 00:25:54.303 John, like there's, You know, I'm not from here originally, but there's always 00:25:54.343 --> 00:25:55.663 going to be a big place in my heart. 00:25:56.103 --> 00:26:00.693 I was able to connect with an accelerator run at ConnectionWorks here. 00:26:00.693 --> 00:26:05.083 And again, they were pretty good at connecting me with the different supports 00:26:05.083 --> 00:26:06.523 that are available for entrepreneurs. 00:26:06.583 --> 00:26:07.603 There's not tons. 00:26:07.903 --> 00:26:11.353 And again, if there's any grants out there for female entrepreneurs, and if 00:26:11.433 --> 00:26:15.213 anyone wants to give me money to start my business, I will happily take it. 00:26:15.563 --> 00:26:20.338 But, um, at least I know now the avenues to go to to get, you know, 00:26:20.348 --> 00:26:23.648 loans and lines of credits to be able to get to where you want. 00:26:23.678 --> 00:26:27.418 So it's supportive and I feel like I can pick up the phone, call anyone 00:26:27.418 --> 00:26:30.028 I need to, to get what I need done. 00:26:30.508 --> 00:26:33.588 But I just wish there was a little bit more support for the innovation 00:26:34.068 --> 00:26:35.418 sector here in New Brunswick. 00:26:35.728 --> 00:26:36.228 honestly. 00:26:36.794 --> 00:26:37.144 Raph: Cool. 00:26:37.164 --> 00:26:42.524 Well um, we are coming up to uh, the end here and uh, we a, on a tech 00:26:42.544 --> 00:26:46.534 podcast and we like to shout products that might need a little shout out, 00:26:46.924 --> 00:26:50.354 things that you find helpful, things that you find, you know, products that 00:26:50.354 --> 00:26:51.724 are cool and helpful in your life. 00:26:51.931 --> 00:26:55.094 Uh, So do you have a product to shout out, Alex? 00:26:55.098 --> 00:26:59.178 Alex: Yes, um, I was toying up which one to pitch on your show. 00:26:59.538 --> 00:27:02.258 One is interesting, it didn't work as well for me, and the other I 00:27:02.258 --> 00:27:05.008 use every day, so I'm gonna go with the one that I use every day. 00:27:05.338 --> 00:27:09.708 Uh, it's a hardware piece, following in Fred LaForge's footsteps here, 00:27:09.748 --> 00:27:14.218 but I got, when I was an early parent early young parent this light. 00:27:14.218 --> 00:27:15.778 Called the Casper Glow Light. 00:27:15.778 --> 00:27:18.228 Casper is a mattress company in Canada. 00:27:18.578 --> 00:27:21.958 I think it's, maybe it's not Canadian, but the mattress company, but they have 00:27:21.958 --> 00:27:27.468 this little light and it integrates with your phone and you can, it gets lighter. 00:27:27.478 --> 00:27:31.848 It kind of is like a rise to wake light in the morning as opposed to an alarm clock 00:27:31.848 --> 00:27:36.138 and you can turn it on just slightly if you have to get up in the middle of night 00:27:36.138 --> 00:27:41.973 with your child as opposed to turning on a light and the design is so comforting 00:27:41.973 --> 00:27:46.643 and warm and it, it looks really nice, but just the way that you can, you can 00:27:46.643 --> 00:27:49.493 program it through your iPhone is awesome. 00:27:49.493 --> 00:27:52.933 And there's tons of stuff out there, but, but this one, like I legitimately 00:27:52.943 --> 00:27:57.813 touched several times a day and I buy it for my friends who are new parents. 00:27:57.843 --> 00:28:01.328 I think I bought them 4 this summer, so I don't know if Casper needs a 00:28:01.328 --> 00:28:04.768 plug, but if you are a new parent and you need something to help you 00:28:04.778 --> 00:28:08.198 with your parenting journey, this could be a good piece of technology. 00:28:08.619 --> 00:28:09.109 Raph: Sweet. 00:28:09.399 --> 00:28:09.959 Awesome. 00:28:10.239 --> 00:28:10.709 Cool. 00:28:10.759 --> 00:28:12.349 Well, thank you so much, Alex. 00:28:12.349 --> 00:28:15.699 It was really fun chatting with you and learning about bubbles and how you 00:28:15.699 --> 00:28:18.029 got there and how you're building it. 00:28:18.039 --> 00:28:20.139 And yeah, I really appreciate your time. 00:28:20.328 --> 00:28:20.678 Alex: Yeah. 00:28:20.718 --> 00:28:21.308 Thanks, Raph. 00:28:21.308 --> 00:28:22.818 It's been so exciting being on your podcast. 00:28:23.749 --> 00:28:24.069 Raph: Cool. 00:28:24.129 --> 00:28:25.029 Well, see ya. 00:28:25.288 --> 00:28:25.888 Alex: Bye. 00:28:25.888 --> 00:28:30.036 Raph: Folks that was my chat with Alex Weaver, Crawford. 00:28:30.298 --> 00:28:31.476 learned so much from her. 00:28:31.476 --> 00:28:35.886 It's really inspiring to see these kinds of community driven projects. 00:28:36.216 --> 00:28:42.416 Um, love the way she, fits in her sort story, her Uh, motivations and 00:28:42.596 --> 00:28:47.096 her purpose building this business as well as you talk sometimes about 00:28:47.096 --> 00:28:53.776 how, fits into different kinds of businesses fits into sustainability 00:28:53.806 --> 00:28:57.216 into kinds of things in our lives. 00:28:57.504 --> 00:29:01.254 just find it really cool to see people who have that sort of tech background. 00:29:01.794 --> 00:29:05.374 Um, bring it into other aspects of their 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