{ "version": "1.0.0", "segments": [ { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "0.39999998", "endTime": "20.915", "body": "If you hadn't heard, divorce is no joke. And I'm here to tell you from experience. And if you have heard, I'm telling you divorce is everything that you've heard about and then some. And today, we're gonna be talking about divorce again. I got my boy, gauntlet, Pete Alexander from the husband type podcast, man." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "20.915", "endTime": "26.240002", "body": "I just wanna thank you, man, for joining me. Man, you are my dog." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "26.240002", "endTime": "33.52", "body": "My dog. My dog. That's my dog. I gotta give the hand clap. Y'all give it up for when all hell breaks loose, my boys." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "33.760002", "endTime": "35.760002", "body": "Y'all call him Chris King. I call him c king." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "35.760002", "endTime": "37.92", "body": "Hey. There you go. There you go. Gotta c king. Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "37.92", "endTime": "43.875", "body": "Yeah. Hey. That's close to how what they used to call me in my before Christ days. You know what I'm saying? They used to call me c k back in the day." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "43.875", "endTime": "44.434998", "body": "That's close." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "44.434998", "endTime": "45.155", "body": "There we go." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "45.155", "endTime": "48.535", "body": "I'm just one c n away from how it used to be, baby. There we go." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "49.074997", "endTime": "52.934998", "body": "That's so good, man. Hey. Thank you for having me here, bro. We appreciate" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "53.155", "endTime": "66.83", "body": "you. I'm so thankful, man, because, you know, jumping right into it, man, we really got really, really cool. We always had that bond, but we got really, really cool when I found out we had a common bond. Right? You've been divorced twice." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "66.83", "endTime": "75.565", "body": "Yeah. And then now I'm in that season where it's like, okay. I've been divorced once and then, damn, I'm here again. You know what I'm saying? It's like here again." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "75.565", "endTime": "92.15", "body": "And so we had that bond, and I needed a brother to walk with me through that. Right? So that's how we got cool, and we really, really so you've walked with me through that process. I'm walking with you through that process. And just from the jump, we just, man, we just hit it off." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "92.15", "endTime": "95.065", "body": "We just been cool. You've been my dog. Yes, man. Appreciate you, man." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "95.065", "endTime": "100.744995", "body": "No. I appreciate you. And then don't get it twisted. This ain't no misery loves company because we are very, very grateful" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "100.985", "endTime": "101.145004", "body": "Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "101.305", "endTime": "109.979996", "body": "For what God is doing. Yeah. We came together with the the navigating of this process in this season because we didn't have all the information. We probably weren't even given. Let's be honest." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "109.979996", "endTime": "110.619995", "body": "Right. Right." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "110.619995", "endTime": "113.259995", "body": "I don't know if we're starting now. We're starting now. We we we don't We" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "113.259995", "endTime": "115.34", "body": "weren't put Yeah. We weren't we weren't given" }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "115.34", "endTime": "130.125", "body": "all the information. Like, growing up, especially in our faith, in our in our relationship with Christ, we grew up in in our in our belief system with Christ, be it Christianity, and we went to churches Yeah. Yeah. Where back in the day before before the web the web Mhmm. Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "130.285", "endTime": "140.92", "body": "Before Internet Explorer Yeah. All that stuff Yep. The men that were in these ministries, they were, they were we known them as respectable men of God. Mhmm. They didn't have all the answers though." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "140.92", "endTime": "144.36", "body": "Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then nobody really talked about it. There we go." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "144.36", "endTime": "150.385", "body": "Right. We talked about it after the fact. Right? After the fact. And then how we talked about it after the fact was really through gossip." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "150.385", "endTime": "166.76999", "body": "Like, you know who did this? Damn, you heard he did this. Man, he left so and so for her. Man, I see she is banging, but You know what I'm saying? It's like you you you had you had the gossip and the rumor mill, but it wasn't like talking about it like, hey, man." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "166.76999", "endTime": "180.375", "body": "Let me come alongside you because I know you're going through something. I didn't been there or I am there and maybe we can hold each other accountable. Because for us, it was really about growth. Right? It wasn't it wasn't about anything else." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "180.375", "endTime": "189.87999", "body": "It was just like, look, bro, I'm here and my main focus is growing even in the midst of the crap I'm going through. You know what I'm saying?" }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "189.87999", "endTime": "190.43999", "body": "Yes, sir." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "190.43999", "endTime": "202.085", "body": "So what that did was what people don't even realize is that at the same time, I was going through counseling. And the first thing I went to counseling, I see I said, you know what? I need to be more vulnerable. More vulnerable." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "202.145", "endTime": "202.545", "body": "You know" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "202.545", "endTime": "220.83", "body": "what I'm saying? It's like, you know, I have a problem with vulnerability and not just with people, but with me and two. Right? Because being in being as a pastor, you know, and being, you know, doing all the different things that I've done Yeah. You know, it's like you try and keep your circle real small." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "220.97", "endTime": "225.85", "body": "And so you don't you're not vulnerable. So I came to you. I was like, look. Look, bro. Hey." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "225.85", "endTime": "230.225", "body": "I'm walking through this. I see you'd have been through it. And for some reason I heard your testimony. Mhmm." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "230.225", "endTime": "230.465", "body": "And I" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "230.465", "endTime": "237.425", "body": "was like, look, I need to be vulnerable so you can hold me accountable and we can grow. And that's what it was. And I was like, look." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "237.425", "endTime": "250.98999", "body": "Here it is. That part. And I know for a fact, I had so we're good men. As men, we're we're good brothers, great heart posture, great intention. Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "250.98999", "endTime": "267.655", "body": "And everything doesn't always work out the way we thought or we planned. And it's not because we sabotage or we didn't do our part. As much information as we had at that at those times, we we used it, and we obviously governed ourselves accordingly with wise counsel and things of that nature. And it always takes two. Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "267.655", "endTime": "282.2", "body": "So in that space, when I wasn't at my best, I still was like, god, I wanna I'd still desire to be better. Right? I still desire to be better even if I didn't have the wherewithal to know exactly how to navigate each moment because it's it's not instantaneous. Yeah. Right?" }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "282.82", "endTime": "296.02502", "body": "So, ultimately, the second divorce process was where I was like, you know, god, I surrender everything. Mhmm. Whatever I thought logically and rationally, whatever made sense, I give it all up. Yeah. Like, even then I prayed." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "296.725", "endTime": "307.88", "body": "It sounds wild, but I was like, lord, you get me through this divorce unscathed Mhmm. Because it was it was some moments of challenges. I'm like, yo, I I just promise to surrender and serve you" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "307.96", "endTime": "308.12", "body": "Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "308.28", "endTime": "325.385", "body": "Whatever that looks like. Right? So in that in that process, pretty much towards the end, if not, I think if I'm correct at the end, that's where God gave me the vision for the husband type because I've I still had this desire. People would be like, yo, you've been divorced twice. Why would why would you wanna do it again?" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "325.385", "endTime": "325.70502", "body": "Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "325.70502", "endTime": "341.9", "body": "And I'm like, real talk is I know I've I've learned lessons and I've had to grow, but it never took away the desire to have companionship and have the right partnership. Right. But learning now how to become the right person and become the right partner. The work wasn't done in the past. Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "341.96", "endTime": "354.82498", "body": "It was like glorify boyfriend with a contract energy. Mutual Yeah. Like, oh, you're not gonna hurt me because I think if you like me as much as I think you do, then I think I'm safe enough to like you. Yeah. But it wasn't stepping out and saying, you know what?" }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "354.82498", "endTime": "357.48", "body": "Let me pursue. I'm like, pursue what? Women know what they want?" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "357.56", "endTime": "357.96002", "body": "Yeah. Why I'm" }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "357.96002", "endTime": "374.885", "body": "a go why I'm a go you you know what I'm saying? So where me and you came through to to that season, you got a chance to at least experience a moment or something I put out there that was really emotionally open. I was really vulnerable. I really just got to the point where I was like, you know what? This God is revealing things to me." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "374.885", "endTime": "382.345", "body": "Mhmm. And he's revealing it to me. And if anything, I'm a test the revelation. Mhmm. And it was a video that was put out that was a conversation of some brothers." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "382.405", "endTime": "391.91", "body": "My homeboy, Stefano, put it out, and I started seeing the response to it. Then I'm like, oh, there's other people, other men that's like they like me. Yeah. And" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "391.91", "endTime": "403.305", "body": "I didn't realize that at first, man, because unlike you, you got in your second divorce, you had your awakening. Oh my gosh. Yeah. After my first divorce, I had my awakening. Right?" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "403.305", "endTime": "410.025", "body": "So I had my come to Jesus moment, struck down, cried out, God, if you save my life, I will give you my life." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "410.025", "endTime": "411.065", "body": "You had one of those?" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "411.065", "endTime": "419.65", "body": "Yeah. Live with it. Oh my god. Right? So, and I was going through divorce and rushed to the hospital, and doctor gave me grim news." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "419.65", "endTime": "424.55", "body": "Right? So I was like, man. Okay. So I literally gave my life to Christ. Right?" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "424.61", "endTime": "438.98502", "body": "So that was after my first divorce. So now going into it, right, you know, I I I had done work prior to. Mhmm. So now for the second one, I'm like, how the hell did I get here? Mhmm." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "438.98502", "endTime": "443.07", "body": "Right? And so it's like, god. I did everything. I checked all the boxes. Right?" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "443.07", "endTime": "449.23", "body": "I was your man, a hundred grand. You know what I'm saying? I'm speaking the word. I'm teaching the word. I'm, you know, discipling others." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "449.23", "endTime": "460.85498", "body": "I'm doing all these other things. It's like, dude, god, you know, I'm doing what you told me to do. How am I here? Right? So I I I had a different thing." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "460.85498", "endTime": "467.495", "body": "So it was a come to Jesus moment after the first one. Mhmm. Right? Because first one, I I was out there, you know. Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "467.495", "endTime": "470.215", "body": "He was young. Oh, yeah. Running. Yes. Running and gun." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "470.215", "endTime": "478.83", "body": "Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And then the second one, though, you know, just doing my thing, father, you know, husband, doing what" }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "478.83", "endTime": "483.49", "body": "I'm How many years in between or what was the time span between the first and the second?" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "483.87", "endTime": "491.805", "body": "Oh. That's a good question. So I it was probably oh, dang. Yeah. Seven years." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "491.945", "endTime": "493.145", "body": "Oh, the number of completion. Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "493.145", "endTime": "497.065", "body": "And you was done. I'm not letting you realize that. Hey. I didn't hear a day. Who's that today?" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "497.065", "endTime": "497.865", "body": "Like, seven years." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "497.865", "endTime": "500.55", "body": "That's right. And that's ample amount of time where you did the work." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "500.62997", "endTime": "500.78998", "body": "Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "500.78998", "endTime": "507.90997", "body": "So you come into a second marriage ready. Yeah. Ready. Alright. So now you're in this marriage, and now you're talking to god like, okay." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "507.90997", "endTime": "518.445", "body": "This is now a challenge at some point in the marriage. Yeah. Where where where did this go when you're you've done the work seven years. You're in the marriage. Did it start off pretty smooth?" }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "518.445", "endTime": "519.98505", "body": "How how was everything in the beginning?" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "523.005", "endTime": "530.70996", "body": "Well okay. So I think we were in different places. Okay. Right? So, real real talk." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "530.70996", "endTime": "533.43", "body": "I thought it was it was smooth going in." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "533.43", "endTime": "533.91", "body": "Okay." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "533.91", "endTime": "538.06995", "body": "Right? But I think because there was a there was a age gap. Gotcha. Significant age gap." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "538.06995", "endTime": "538.31", "body": "Gotcha." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "538.31", "endTime": "538.55", "body": "Right?" }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "538.55", "endTime": "538.87", "body": "Gotcha." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "538.87", "endTime": "555.155", "body": "So, with that age gap, I was in one place and I think the marriage sounded okay. It sounded cool. Right? But I don't think, you know, she was totally in at that point. And there were some things that that that we experienced that led me to believe that." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "555.155", "endTime": "564.18", "body": "Right? Mhmm. So but there were your initial bumps and bruises, you know what I'm saying? Because people think that you go through this honeymoon period, it's really not like that. Right?" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "564.24", "endTime": "577.565", "body": "So we had the initial bumps and bruises, but for the most part, we were good. Right? We, we had to go through some things, miscarriage, you know, those type of things. So those are tough things to endure as a couple. Right?" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "577.785", "endTime": "584.29", "body": "But, you know, going through, we just had normal stuff, just life. Right? But overall, life was good." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "584.29", "endTime": "585.08997", "body": "Okay. Good." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "585.08997", "endTime": "588.85", "body": "Big house. Living. Money. What? You know, I" }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "588.85", "endTime": "590.68994", "body": "like y'all was y'all was in, Texas." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "590.68994", "endTime": "591.32996", "body": "Yeah. Texas." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "591.32996", "endTime": "593.88995", "body": "Oh, the oh, your house is different. Yeah. The house is different." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "593.88995", "endTime": "598.505", "body": "You know what I'm saying? Texas. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, nice nice house, you know, nice community." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "598.96497", "endTime": "602.805", "body": "You know, just life is, you know, really, really smooth and" }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "602.805", "endTime": "604.265", "body": "good right here in ministry." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "604.325", "endTime": "609.285", "body": "Yeah. And I'm in ministry. Yeah. Literally having your own ministry happening. Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "609.285", "endTime": "610.645", "body": "Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "610.645", "endTime": "618.54", "body": "Pastor of a church. Yeah. Yeah. So all of that now that stuff that you have to deal with, you know, when you're going through Mhmm. You have to deal with." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "618.54", "endTime": "623.94", "body": "So, you know, when you're in ministry, that's a whole another thing. Right? Because you have people pulling on you." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "623.94", "endTime": "624.3", "body": "You have" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "624.3", "endTime": "638.845", "body": "to man you have to manage time. You have to manage the the the request. You have to make make sure as you're starting a family and having kids that they get the proper time. But so it's just normal life stuff. But, yeah, overall, things cool." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "638.985", "endTime": "644.1", "body": "So in in in the challenging now we get into the fast forward. In the challenging seasons," }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "645.19995", "endTime": "656.0", "body": "what is it that you started to, like, look to? Where did you started to where did you start to go? What were were you reading things? Who you were you talking, seeking counsel? You said at one point you were in therapy anyways." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "656.0", "endTime": "656.355", "body": "Right?" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "656.595", "endTime": "663.875", "body": "Yeah. I believe man, go get help, man. I believe in therapy. Right? So, a lot of times we in church, we say pray it." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "663.875", "endTime": "668.51495", "body": "You know, just pray. Just pray. Right? There's there's that. And we're like, oh, somebody needs to be delivered." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "668.51495", "endTime": "675.23", "body": "Okay. There's deliverance and all that other stuff. But then there's maintenance. Right? And so therapy helps you with the maintenance." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "675.52997", "endTime": "683.20996", "body": "Right? The everyday stuff that you get to sort through the triggers and all that other stuff. So, yeah, I was always in therapy. Right? Personally." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "683.20996", "endTime": "686.58997", "body": "Mhmm. Mhmm. K. So I was in therapy personally. Right?" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "686.64996", "endTime": "690.775", "body": "So I I was in therapy personally. For you. Alright. I was in therapy personally. Personally." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "691.235", "endTime": "696.85504", "body": "Yeah. Yeah. And so so I've always believed in that. Right? And and it helped." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "696.995", "endTime": "704.1", "body": "But, you know, for the most part, yeah, things are cool. So, alright, so now we're we're saying there's a there's a a challenge." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "704.48", "endTime": "720.505", "body": "I know for me when it came down to the divorce process, I did go and I did try to make it work as well. I went into therapy. We had we actually had counseling that was, very fruitful. And at some point, I'll say this much. I had to I remember praying about it." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "720.505", "endTime": "729.35004", "body": "I I filed for divorce, and I'm in the second part of divorce. So we had our first divorce. Second marriage was ten months after we got married." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "729.35004", "endTime": "729.83", "body": "Okay." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "729.83", "endTime": "738.95", "body": "Because immediately yeah. Immediately, I I dealt with some things when it comes down to not trusting and and running. Mhmm. We had a blended family." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "738.95", "endTime": "739.43005", "body": "Okay." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "739.43005", "endTime": "749.615", "body": "That dynamic is a lot more of a challenge than people realize. Yeah. That's because when you're dating a woman as a man, you're dating the woman. Mhmm. The kids are around because I have a kid too." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "750.39496", "endTime": "757.07996", "body": "However, we moved in, and we cohabitated. Mhmm. So we created another dynamic that was not a part of us just dating each other." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "757.07996", "endTime": "757.56", "body": "Yeah. Yeah. Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "757.56", "endTime": "765.0", "body": "And you have to learn that dynamic as as much as you've already committed to that dynamic. Yeah. Yeah. It's a it's a it's a fest. It's a Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "765.07996", "endTime": "767.0", "body": "It's another word that you put in front of that fest." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "767.0", "endTime": "768.04", "body": "Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was bad." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "768.04", "endTime": "777.315", "body": "Yeah. Right? So I end up going and growing through this process. We we we filed for the I filed for divorce the first ten months because I'm like, I can't do this. Mhmm." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "777.455", "endTime": "791.48", "body": "The the judge, like, she was like a Claire Huxtable judge. Black lady, she went out playing. She looked at us and she's like, so y'all are trying to get divorced for what? And I said, well, it's just not working. You know?" }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "791.54", "endTime": "802.575", "body": "She I don't like she she she's she's this way. I'm this way. Like, something that is irreconcilable differences. Right? That lady looked at us and she said, did y'all go to counseling?" }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "803.03503", "endTime": "806.495", "body": "I was like, no. No, ma'am. Alright. Yeah. So y'all have some issues." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "806.635", "endTime": "808.715", "body": "Okay. Well, that's everybody's marriage." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "808.715", "endTime": "809.03503", "body": "Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "809.03503", "endTime": "814.2", "body": "She said y'all been married for how long? We said ten months. She said, look. I'm not granting this. Mhmm." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "814.2", "endTime": "816.84", "body": "Y'all go and get some lunch, and y'all go talk about this." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "816.84", "endTime": "817.08", "body": "Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "817.08", "endTime": "826.895", "body": "And what do you think we did? We left out, went out, and sat down, had some food, and we we had a moment where we had to really be accountable. And I and I from that moment, though, I realized I" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "826.895", "endTime": "828.015", "body": "told y'all about that." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "828.015", "endTime": "828.975", "body": "You know what I'm saying?" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "828.975", "endTime": "829.455", "body": "Yeah, man." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "829.455", "endTime": "836.755", "body": "Fix it. Figure it out. So we went back out, and we went back in this the the the world the the covenant world. Mhmm. And then COVID hit." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "836.815", "endTime": "849.59", "body": "Okay. So we made it through COVID. It was smooth because that was everybody's kickback and barbecues, and nobody had to really do much. So I think that was fine. Somewhere 2021, life started happening again." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "849.59", "endTime": "857.045", "body": "Yeah. Routine started coming back in, and we didn't we we didn't do the work. Yes. We just went back in." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "857.58496", "endTime": "863.425", "body": "See, it it all takes work. You know what I'm saying? And you mentioned earlier that, okay, you're a good guy. I'm a good guy." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "863.425", "endTime": "863.985", "body": "For sure." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "863.985", "endTime": "871.64996", "body": "And, you know, that's cool. Right? But, being a good guy is is a process. There we go. You know what I'm saying?" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "871.64996", "endTime": "887.415", "body": "And and a lot of people just want it just right out the gate. I want a good man. I want a good woman. And that's really it's not that hard to find a good person because ultimately that's just a good natured person. But somebody that can take their their their good heart." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "887.415", "endTime": "901.51", "body": "Right? The the the essence of their good heart and apply it to to others and give it to others and and learn and stay committed throughout thick and thin and all of that. That takes work. Right? That takes process." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "901.81", "endTime": "914.765", "body": "It takes a lifelong process to become a good man or a good woman. Right? Yeah. And I always talk about, you know, I don't wanna just be a good man. I don't wanna just I don't want just a good woman." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "915.385", "endTime": "917.485", "body": "Right? I want a godly woman." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "917.625", "endTime": "918.425", "body": "That's all said." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "918.425", "endTime": "930.98", "body": "Because I'm a godly man because that speaks to commitment. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. It speaks to covenant. See, covenant says that I'm a do what I'm supposed to do even if you don't do what you're supposed to do." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "931.44", "endTime": "942.995", "body": "And so this second time around, I was a I was a godly man. First time around, I was a good man. Mhmm. But still had desires of the streets. Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "942.995", "endTime": "949.235", "body": "Yeah. Yeah. You see, a good man ain't necessarily a godly man. Right? And a godly man is a good man." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "949.235", "endTime": "959.76996", "body": "Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So I'm sitting here, I was a godly man my second marriage. So for me to have to go through divorce, I'm like, let's just be real. I'm like, dude, this is how I was talking." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "959.99", "endTime": "964.38995", "body": "Damn, god. Yeah. You know? How are we here again?" }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "964.38995", "endTime": "971.38495", "body": "So take us through. Alright. Give us more. And I and I believe I interrupted you earlier. Now you're in your your second marriage." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "971.44495", "endTime": "975.925", "body": "Like, navigate us. Give us where some things are going and where it went. So, you" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "975.925", "endTime": "982.96497", "body": "know, life life happens. Right? So you go through the ebbs and flows of life. Yeah. Financial highs, financial lows." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "982.96497", "endTime": "987.61", "body": "Yeah. Right? You go through that. Me, I've always been one that bounce back. Right?" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "987.61", "endTime": "998.01", "body": "I'm like the bounce back king, and I always bounce back higher. You know what I'm saying? That's cool. I've been I've I've I've had lots of money. Like, I've been jumping in hundreds of thousands of dollars cash before Jesus." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "998.17", "endTime": "1009.09503", "body": "And I've been homeless before. You know what I'm saying? So I I have I always bounce back. So we we went through some financial, difficulty. Right?" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1009.09503", "endTime": "1024.83", "body": "And in the grand scheme of things, when you look at it, it was difficult for us, but it was it was first world problems. You know what I'm saying? It's like you can't take your big trip where you wanna go type thing. You know what I'm saying? It was first world problems." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1024.83", "endTime": "1030.0449", "body": "Right? Rich people problems. You know what I'm saying? That part. So it wasn't like really poor people problems." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1030.0449", "endTime": "1050.43", "body": "Right? So but when you look at it, you know, so we we we go through, and to make a long story short, you know, we had we bought we bought our house. And, really, you you know, I tell people the most powerful thing you can do is change your mind. And flat out, she just changed her mind." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "1051.29", "endTime": "1062.9349", "body": "How did I so so now you're you're you're hearing the mindset that's been changed. What's the first what's the first response? What's the first processing part of" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1062.9349", "endTime": "1074.01", "body": "this? So the and when I say change your mind, it's just like, okay. You know, people use examples of, like, imagine your your your your spouse coming home and just saying, I don't wanna do this no more. Yeah. Right?" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1074.2301", "endTime": "1085.487", "body": "Yeah. And in a nutshell, without going through all the specifics and, you know, how somebody said it or whatever or when somebody said it, that was in a nutshell, what happened? Hey, I don't want to do this no more." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "1085.487", "endTime": "1087.0665", "body": "Right. I don't want to be" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1087.0665", "endTime": "1091.8049", "body": "married no more. Right. Where do we go from here? Yeah. Well, for me, it was okay." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1091.8049", "endTime": "1102.6699", "body": "Well, alright. Maybe it's something going on. Right. And when I'm like something emotionally mental, maybe there's stressors or whatever, Maybe the the expectations of new home and transitioning. Maybe that's getting to you." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1102.6699", "endTime": "1103.47", "body": "So I'm What" }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "1103.47", "endTime": "1116.425", "body": "about ministry too? You think ministry could have possibly been Well yeah. Yeah. Because you're you're you're you're you're you're called to now do more and help spread more of the gospel and you're helping to disciple. Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "1116.485", "endTime": "1118.085", "body": "And not everybody can carry that." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1118.085", "endTime": "1119.365", "body": "That that's a tough load." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "1119.365", "endTime": "1122.325", "body": "You see what I'm saying? Yeah. That's a tough load. Even as a wife." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1122.325", "endTime": "1129.0299", "body": "Yeah. See, a lot of people think that that's they they think about the glitz and the glamour. That part. Right? They think about, hey, I wanna be on stage too." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1129.0299", "endTime": "1135.0299", "body": "Right? But on stage comes with, you know, heavy is the head that weighs the crown. You know what I'm saying? That wears the crown. Right?" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1135.0299", "endTime": "1153.465", "body": "So when you when you're on stage and in limelight, you got more people picking at you. You got more expectations, you got more people that wanna say, hey, wanna hang out with you that you really don't wanna hang out with. You know, you got all these different things. You have expectations to be held accountable, right, to do things that you don't wanna do. Can't do things you used to do." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1154.24", "endTime": "1170.335", "body": "And then when you see other people doing things that sorta look like things that might be fun, because they because like, man, out there in social, man, it looks fun, bro. Mhmm. It looks fun. You know what I'm saying? But, we don't realize as we're looking, oh, how many takes did it take to get that picture?" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1170.335", "endTime": "1178.895", "body": "How many takes did it take to get that video? How, you know, we don't realize how staged this is. We don't realize, fool, that ain't your house. That ain't your car. But you broke." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1178.895", "endTime": "1186.75", "body": "You can't pay your bill. You just asked me for rent money last week. You know what I'm saying? We don't realize that stuff. But, you know, it's theater of the mind." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1187.0499", "endTime": "1189.71", "body": "Right? And so that weighs too. So it looks fun." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "1189.7699", "endTime": "1199.905", "body": "So that yeah. So we're we're not we're not saying that that is. We're talking about when someone is able to change their mind. Yes. There's things that need to be considered based on the fact that you can't be that individual." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "1199.905", "endTime": "1208.885", "body": "You're only receiving what's being spoken. So now you have to process. Alright. So I don't know what to do with what you are deciding to do. Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "1209.31", "endTime": "1210.67", "body": "Now that's a challenging place to be in." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1210.67", "endTime": "1218.5901", "body": "That's a challenging place to be in. So it's like, how do I process what you're just giving me? Right? And as a man, I'm thinking about how do I make sense of it? Oh, yeah." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1218.5901", "endTime": "1222.995", "body": "There's no make sense. Solution oriented. That's what men are. There's a where's this coming from? Right." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1223.075", "endTime": "1231.235", "body": "Okay. Where are your input signals coming from? You know, how do I cut off the negative input signals? How do I get you, you know, the help? Maybe it's just a phase." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1231.235", "endTime": "1245.44", "body": "Maybe it's just, you know, something that you're going through, you know, so trying to figure it out. Mhmm. And, you know, when all hell breaks loose, man, for a leader, life don't stop. You're still called to be a husband. You're still called to be a father." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1245.44", "endTime": "1254.7051", "body": "You're still called to be a leader in the community. You're still called to keep on going. Right? So having to deal with that and like, okay, I'm trying to fix this, but all this other stuff. Alright." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1254.7051", "endTime": "1267.125", "body": "Kids, take kids to school, take kids, you know, pay this, do that, all that. So you're having those discussions trying to figure it out and it's it's it's tough. Right? So I'm trying to figure it out. All I knew at the time was fight." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1267.93", "endTime": "1277.87", "body": "Not fight her, fight for it. That's it. Fight for it. Because men, again, a Godly man, right, will sit here and realize this is a spiritual attack." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "1278.0901", "endTime": "1285.475", "body": "And that's what you were talking about earlier. God, what the hell? Like when all hell breaks loose, like, God, why? I did the work. Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "1285.475", "endTime": "1288.2949", "body": "Seven years. We're here. Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1288.7549", "endTime": "1296.5149", "body": "Why now? Yeah. So when me and you came together, what we talking we talking about spiritual attack. Period. How do we sit here and fight spiritually?" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1296.5149", "endTime": "1310.325", "body": "So I I'm sitting here fighting spiritually and trying to give the support how I know best, right, to support Mhmm. My family and and at the time, my wife. You know? So that's what I did. I fought for it." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1310.325", "endTime": "1311.7649", "body": "It. I'll I'll I'll let me" }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "1312.325", "endTime": "1313.1649", "body": "I remember telling you" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1313.2849", "endTime": "1313.4049", "body": "Bro." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "1313.5249", "endTime": "1328.68", "body": "You know, I I told you because I remember you y'all shared with I was like, bro, there are certain things that I know I could've, should've, didn't. I gotta do it. You I said, bro, you were like, I'm not going anywhere. I'm doing everything I can, and all I can do is continue to encourage you. Because I said, listen." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "1328.68", "endTime": "1341.075", "body": "Honestly, I'm almost living vicariously through you Mhmm. Based off of what what you're doing. How bro, you went back in the ring not even having any form of issues, just trying to figure out how to solve what needs to be solved." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1341.075", "endTime": "1341.395", "body": "Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "1341.395", "endTime": "1358.37", "body": "And I was told you at the in through the process, like, I'm proud of you, man. Mhmm. Because the work that you were doing, the humility that it took, the sacrifice that you had to make and continue to make on top of what you already made was just saying, you know what? Whatever it takes. And I can I can look y'all in the face on this camera?" }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "1358.8301", "endTime": "1369.215", "body": "My dog did the work. And that's when I can be accountable for telling you what I didn't do. I know a man, and that's a man who did the work. Mhmm. So I'm I'm curious." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "1369.355", "endTime": "1374.955", "body": "Continue. But I know you went back in the ring, and you didn't even go looking for a fight. You looked for a fix." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1374.955", "endTime": "1375.195", "body": "Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "1375.195", "endTime": "1377.835", "body": "And you're like, god, what's this?" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1377.835", "endTime": "1384.14", "body": "Yeah. So I I surrounded myself around a certain group of people. Right? I cut off everything. Right?" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1384.14", "endTime": "1398.065", "body": "I cut off social media. I was like, I'm not gonna be out here because I don't need that feeding me. Right? I don't need whatever I didn't even even if it was right, I didn't even wanna take the chance of being right. So I had a criteria." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1398.445", "endTime": "1410.225", "body": "My criteria was, these are the people that I will bring into my circle. And I prayed about it. I said, God, who do I need to put in my circle? Here is the criteria. Number one, they have to be personally or professionally qualified." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1410.87", "endTime": "1426.9651", "body": "Okay. Personally qualified is somebody that has gone through it and overcome it. Okay. Professionally qualified is somebody that is ordained or licensed to speak to you in this situation. Pastor, counselor, and even attorney." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1427.425", "endTime": "1437.025", "body": "Right? Yeah. But when I went to in in in talking to attorneys, I told them, I said, I'm not ready yet. I wanna fight for this. Mhmm." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1437.025", "endTime": "1447.98", "body": "And that's what I told them. And they said, go ahead. Right? Personally, professionally, or qualified. The other the the second thing I had to see was somebody that was spiritually mature." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1448.84", "endTime": "1454.165", "body": "That means that I have seen them have fruit in their life." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "1454.165", "endTime": "1454.485", "body": "Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1454.485", "endTime": "1472.01", "body": "Right? Meaning that they are walking the walk that they talk. Yeah. And they are they have people that they are mentoring, discipling, that I have seen that they physically have the fruit in their life. So that means I can't have somebody that I don't have personal relationship with." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1472.39", "endTime": "1481.885", "body": "Right? The third thing was, well, when they're spiritually mature, they also will speak the word of God. There we go. Right? It had to line up with the word of God." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1482.025", "endTime": "1501.89", "body": "Right? So when I say the word of God, it it had to line up with the love of God, the the mind of God. It had to give me hope and faith and actually empower me to walk this thing out no matter how hard it was. And they had to be personally vested." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "1502.35", "endTime": "1502.91", "body": "Let's go." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1502.91", "endTime": "1517.8301", "body": "Right? Meaning that they were willing to give up their time on a regular basis and put something on the line for my success in this particular area. So I'm giving just points on Yeah. How how to navigate your circle and create your network. Yes." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1517.8301", "endTime": "1526.17", "body": "And when when hell is is breaking loose. Right? So and then as they were personally vested, they say, okay. I'm a walk with you. And they had to be proven." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1527.27", "endTime": "1537.215", "body": "They had to be proven. And then they had to be okay with the job that I gave them. I gave everybody a job. I said, Pete, when I call you, hey. Let's get together." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1537.215", "endTime": "1538.095", "body": "We need to talk about this." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "1538.095", "endTime": "1539.215", "body": "You a %." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1539.215", "endTime": "1544.815", "body": "Yep. When I call you, this is what I want you to talk about. Yeah. I told I I called somebody and said, hey. I want you this is what I'm going through." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1544.815", "endTime": "1552.2001", "body": "When I call you, I need you to tell me a joke. Make me laugh. That's your whole job. You're my court jester. That's it." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "1552.2001", "endTime": "1553.6401", "body": "And that's that relationship. That's" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1553.6401", "endTime": "1554.2201", "body": "the friendship." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "1555.0", "endTime": "1557.0801", "body": "It's not, yeah, it's literally that's your Because" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1557.0801", "endTime": "1561.575", "body": "now I'm holding them accountable to their job because now they can hold me accountable to walking this thing out." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "1561.575", "endTime": "1563.8949", "body": "It's not one way. I love it. It's not one way. Yep." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1563.8949", "endTime": "1570.5549", "body": "So that was my criteria. And I didn't put anybody in my circle that did not meet that criteria." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "1571.335", "endTime": "1588.45", "body": "Yo. So I'm hearing clearly so when when I think of divorce and I've been through it, I'm thinking a lot of times immediately, we're thinking about it not working because there's something a man did Mhmm. Easily. The court system set up Yeah. To make sure that the men pay." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "1588.45", "endTime": "1602.75", "body": "Mhmm. Right? So I'm hearing you, and you're one of the few, like, a brother period that I've seen do the work, heard. We had conversations, and all of a sudden, you still end up where I felt you didn't have to end up. Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "1602.83", "endTime": "1621.105", "body": "Right? Yeah. So I'm hearing you for the first time talk about something that comes out, turns out to be very unique and different for me because you fought. Yeah. And not only did you have to fight, you had to realize too when to fall back and allow for even your partner at the time to get whatever she's needing with you supporting." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1621.645", "endTime": "1625.025", "body": "Yeah. And we still end up counseling" }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "1625.1649", "endTime": "1628.9249", "body": "wise counsel. Yep. Personal counseling. Yep. All the criteria is you named." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "1628.9249", "endTime": "1630.605", "body": "Yep. Everybody's in a space and position." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1630.605", "endTime": "1630.95", "body": "Yep." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "1631.0299", "endTime": "1635.4299", "body": "As a man of God Yep. Still leading. Yep. We still end up here." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1635.4299", "endTime": "1641.11", "body": "Yep. And the toughest thing to deal with, there were two things that I had to deal with. It was the shame and the rejection." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "1641.11", "endTime": "1643.9099", "body": "So where does shame where where does shame come from? Where where you feeling shame?" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1643.9099", "endTime": "1656.655", "body": "The shame was from the fact that, one, I was like, damn, I'm going through this again? Gotcha. Right? It's like the shame of of perceived failure. Right?" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1656.655", "endTime": "1676.475", "body": "The shame came from what I thought other people would say. Right? And then the shame of the fact that I'm supposed to be a man like God helping people in their marriages and, you know, I'm getting up on the on the stage and talking about, hey, man. When your marriage is on the rocks, do this, blah blah blah. This is I'm that dude." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1677.1749", "endTime": "1687.275", "body": "Right? So it's like the shame of that. You know what I'm saying? And then the rejection. The rejection of saying and this was my theme." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1687.575", "endTime": "1692.97", "body": "I never wavered on my theme. I love my wife." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "1693.67", "endTime": "1693.91", "body": "I" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1693.91", "endTime": "1697.19", "body": "want my marriage. How many times did you hear me say that?" }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "1697.19", "endTime": "1703.99", "body": "Bro, that's all you did. That's all first of all, let's be clear. We didn't say that divorce ended on your turn." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1703.99", "endTime": "1711.055", "body": "Yeah. Right. So with that, just to have somebody say, look. I don't want to to be married to you anymore. That's different." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1711.995", "endTime": "1725.36", "body": "And you can't and and the the real tough thing is, like, if I was right there, you know, you let me just be real. Let's just talk like we talk. Alright. If I was up there slapping holes on the on on Yeah. On the butt, you know what I'm saying, making a rain, you know what I'm saying?" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1725.42", "endTime": "1728.72", "body": "I'm like, okay. I can understand. That. Yeah. That wasn't me." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1729.1951", "endTime": "1734.3151", "body": "Right? Yeah, man. You know, I'm not the dude on OnlyFans, I've never been out there. No. Right?" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1734.3151", "endTime": "1752.58", "body": "I'm not the dude, you know, with a, I'm not that dude. So I couldn't tie it to a cause, so I couldn't fix it. I couldn't rationalize it. And then now I'm being told, you know, I don't want you. Why are you holding on to something that's" }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "1752.58", "endTime": "1753.94", "body": "so hard? Hold on. Don't skate. You know" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1753.94", "endTime": "1754.34", "body": "what I'm saying?" }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "1754.34", "endTime": "1759.065", "body": "Don't skate past that. Yeah. See that's that phrase right there. Yeah. It made my skin crawl." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1759.065", "endTime": "1759.565", "body": "Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "1759.625", "endTime": "1765.785", "body": "That I don't want you Yeah. The ego and pride that is attached to me as a man to be told that" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1766.185", "endTime": "1773.14", "body": "That's and that's the tough part. Right? The rejection. Right? So, again, we just talking." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1773.14", "endTime": "1774.8201", "body": "This just my story." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "1774.8201", "endTime": "1775.7201", "body": "I'm with you." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1776.02", "endTime": "1785.985", "body": "You know? So to have to go through that, it's like, dang. You start feeling like I'm not good enough. I'm not good enough. Why ain't I good enough?" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1785.985", "endTime": "1795.4451", "body": "In real talk, I'm like, I'm Chris King. You know what I'm saying? Like you said, I'm a good dude. I'm a godly man. Why ain't I good enough?" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1795.5851", "endTime": "1798.23", "body": "Let's see. We as men do not talk about that." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "1798.3099", "endTime": "1807.0499", "body": "Yeah. When's the last time you hit one of your home was really say in a in a very emotionally open way? Yo. My lady said I don't want you. Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "1807.11", "endTime": "1816.135", "body": "Bro, we were once a boy. We came from a woman. Mhmm. We once want, and we do tend to love and desire nurturing. Mhmm." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "1816.1951", "endTime": "1827.39", "body": "When someone rejects you in the space of being a grown man after you've put in that much equity, sweat equity, that much investment, that much of your heart posture is going towards fighting for your marriage and you hear I don't want you." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1827.47", "endTime": "1828.43", "body": "Yeah. That's something that you" }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "1828.43", "endTime": "1833.49", "body": "need to know. Will lose it if they're if they're not rooted in what their faith is in Christ." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1834.1901", "endTime": "1842.455", "body": "And so that's the thing, man, that I want people to understand. No matter man or woman. Right? Because we all have to deal with rejection. Right?" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1842.5149", "endTime": "1859.3301", "body": "So one of the things that I had to do so for for people that's out there that's going through divorce, on some level, right, somebody's experiencing some rejection. Right? Yeah. Whether it's blatant, whether it's implied. Right?" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1860.51", "endTime": "1877.9349", "body": "You know, so when when going through that, I wanna make sure that people understand that, you know, you really one of the things that I had to do was a lot of times people tend to do affirmations. Mhmm. Right? And what you tell yourself is important. Right?" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1877.9349", "endTime": "1891.23", "body": "What you tell yourself is important. And so I had to really build myself back up. I had to build myself up. I had to stop looking at myself through her eyes. And I had to look at myself through God's eyes." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1891.45", "endTime": "1905.6749", "body": "And I had to go through to the very beginning of when I started doing the work, those first seven years. Right? And I had to say, okay, who am I? Alright. I am and and it's on my mirror to this day." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1905.6749", "endTime": "1916.6699", "body": "Every morning I say this and I pray to God. Thank you God I'm committed to my call and my purpose. Thank you God that I am your beloved. Thank you God that I am a great man of God. I'm a great husband." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1916.6699", "endTime": "1926.2699", "body": "I'm a great father. I'm a great friend. Thank you, God, for my amazing kids. Thank you, God, for my loving wife. Because even if I don't have it right now, I know you're blessing me with it." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1926.2699", "endTime": "1941.435", "body": "Thank you, God, for my commitment. You know, all of these things. And then it's not just the things you tell yourself. One of the things I had to do is I had to ask myself certain questions. So along with that, I asked myself certain questions because now I'm dealing with rejection." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1941.655", "endTime": "1955.5", "body": "I don't wanna sink into depression. So I'm asking myself every single morning, Chris, what are you happy about right now? Chris, what are you excited about? Chris, what are you proud of? Chris, what are you committed to?" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1955.5599", "endTime": "1976.48", "body": "Chris, who do you love? Chris, who loves you? Chris, how do you feel about it? And my thing is, I cannot answer the same question with the same answer, in your own two consecutive days. So I asked myself that in the morning because it forces me to go throughout the day to look for different answers." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1976.7001", "endTime": "1986.175", "body": "So now I'm not thinking about the rejection. I'm thinking about being honest with myself. I'm building up rapport with myself and I'm trusting myself. See, this is a part of the work. Right?" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1986.175", "endTime": "1995.535", "body": "So I'm building up rapport with myself and I'm saying, okay, Chris. What am I happy about? So now I'm gonna ask myself next morning. Now I can speak to what what I'm happy about what happened today. What am I excited about?" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "1995.535", "endTime": "2006.24", "body": "What happened today? What am I excited? So tomorrow, I'm gonna ask myself that again, and I'm gonna look for new experiences to build myself up. These see, this is a word." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "2006.62", "endTime": "2017.455", "body": "So, yo, so the word alright. This is good. Now we're gonna move. I found some some some solace and some revelation that you've been speaking in, and I believe Holy Spirit is imparting some things. So now I we we too." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "2017.455", "endTime": "2020.915", "body": "We all went to. Yeah. Lessons learned. Yeah. We're not striking out." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "2021.135", "endTime": "2029.075", "body": "Yeah. Third third time's a charm. Cool. I noticed you said you did the work from the first Yeah. Going into the second." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "2029.95", "endTime": "2034.69", "body": "Right? I didn't do the work from the first. I was single. Mhmm. I was out here from the first to the second." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "2034.91", "endTime": "2046.205", "body": "I started to do the work now from the second to the third. So even with the work being done, it doesn't mean that it's indicative to everything being successful from, like, the first to the second. Right?" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2046.345", "endTime": "2046.665", "body": "Right." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "2046.665", "endTime": "2060.6401", "body": "What I do notice now I don't know if you could echo it or if you feel the same, but I'll say this much. In this season that I've grown into, I've noticed that in reading the word, definitely a man who finds a wife finds a good thing and receives favor. We know that. Boom. Right?" }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "2060.86", "endTime": "2070.08", "body": "However, God created Adam. Meaning, in relationship with what God had with Adam, he was Adam was full Yeah. With his relationship with God. Right? It was vertical." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "2070.535", "endTime": "2075.015", "body": "He didn't he was not in need of anything. He didn't miss he didn't even know you can't miss what you never had." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2075.015", "endTime": "2075.175", "body": "Right." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "2075.175", "endTime": "2083.595", "body": "He didn't even know he was missing anything. God is like, you know, within the relationship that I have with you is beautiful. Spiritually, it's connected. You're my guy. But where you are, you need you're incomplete." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "2083.815", "endTime": "2092.4001", "body": "Yeah. You need another partner. Mhmm. So then he created Eve, presented Eve. But before he made Eve for Adam, he gave Adam work." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "2092.4001", "endTime": "2099.06", "body": "Mhmm. He had responsibility. There was a vision. He had things to tend tend to. Now you have a a helper suitable." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "2099.2002", "endTime": "2102.0251", "body": "Mhmm. Are you noticing in this season" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2102.405", "endTime": "2102.645", "body": "No." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "2102.885", "endTime": "2111.5452", "body": "That are you looking now to see that, okay, you're doing the work therapy, all this stuff, you've done the work, you're still doing the work. That's work in progress. Mhmm. Right? Doing this process." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "2112.3398", "endTime": "2120.26", "body": "You have division in which God has given you. You're still ministering. You're still reaching the people. You have the podcast. You have you basically have a lot of work." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "2120.26", "endTime": "2137.0652", "body": "Yeah. Is it important to now see that as we're moving forward and we're growing, God is doing an amazing work in you and me that we find or we ask God for a helper that's suitable for where we are versus how we could have picked and chose" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2137.0652", "endTime": "2149.5498", "body": "in the beginning. That's a good question. First off, I'm not asking God for a helper that's suitable for where he's taking me. I'm thanking him for the helper that he's already created for me. Tell him." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "2149.6099", "endTime": "2150.25", "body": "Right. That's good" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2150.25", "endTime": "2160.185", "body": "to see. That's why I say it every morning. I say, thank you for my loving wife. Thank you for a loving marriage. Thank you for a committed wife." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2160.565", "endTime": "2177.68", "body": "Right? And so I'm already thanking him in advance because I know it's already there. So that means I still have work to do and I will continue to have work. Now I also have to change my perspective a little bit because when people leave divorce, there are a couple of things that happen. The first thing that divorce teaches you is how to make a quick exit." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2178.22", "endTime": "2194.02", "body": "Right? So when, and what I mean by that is when somebody comes, you have all the traumatic experiences that you've gone through. You're looking at what somebody else did through the eyes of the pain and the rejection, everything else. So when somebody else comes, she may do something similar and you're like, oh, no. I'm out of here." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2194.18", "endTime": "2205.24", "body": "Right? So I have to one, have God deal with that. Right? And deal with that mindset. Now some things that you'll experience, you won't know that you need to work on until you get into another relationship." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2205.3", "endTime": "2219.3948", "body": "%. Right? So I asked God to to work on that. Then on top of that, I changed my mindset about it because a lot of times but the second thing that people do, a lot of when they go through divorce is, oh, I ain't doing that again. Right?" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2219.4548", "endTime": "2227.74", "body": "See, we run away from pain and run to what's pleasurable. Since it's painful, we run away from it. So a lot of people, oh, hell no. I ain't I ain't getting married again. Oh, no." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2227.74", "endTime": "2233.76", "body": "I ain't doing that. Right? And so I said, God, alright. This is something that's ordained by you. Right?" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2233.9", "endTime": "2256.17", "body": "And I had to think about it in a way, in a Godly way because I said, I am a Godly man. So now I need Godly perspective. So I said, okay, God, you created the woman not because Adam needed to receive love. You created the woman because Adam needed to give it. He was already in proximity with God." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2256.47", "endTime": "2270.305", "body": "God is love. I don't need something I'm getting a constant dose of, but I do need to give it. Mhmm. So that's why God God created He needed somebody to love. So I said, God, help my heart." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2271.085", "endTime": "2287.95", "body": "Please don't harden my heart to the process and and what you have ordained so that it can make me complete in my purpose of giving love, which is why he says, love your wife like Christ loved the church. Mhmm. It's a need. It's necessary for us to be able to fulfill our mandate." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "2288.0898", "endTime": "2288.5898", "body": "Amen." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2288.73", "endTime": "2297.745", "body": "Right? So Yeah. I said, God, heal heal my heart so that I don't I don't have that perspective anymore. And you know what happened? When you when you asked me Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2297.865", "endTime": "2313.0198", "body": "How do I feel? I said, you know what? I'm so thankful that I had the opportunity to love in that way, and I'm not jaded by marriage. Now I'm looking for you know, I'm expecting it. So I'm already thanking God for what he's blessed me with in the loving, committed, mature wife that he has for me to go on to the next level." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "2313.0198", "endTime": "2313.5", "body": "That's good." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2313.5", "endTime": "2314.14", "body": "Does that make sense?" }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "2314.14", "endTime": "2320.46", "body": "No. A %. You're it's expecting faith. Yeah. You're like, your faith is I know this is and that's another thing too." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "2320.46", "endTime": "2328.335", "body": "People could say, okay, Paul. He Yeah. Christ. They they didn't have the everybody's not called to that. But when you know, like, you know Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "2328.6548", "endTime": "2333.615", "body": "You weren't meant to be alone. It's not because you're a lone leaf. There's it there's that complete difference. Right? Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "2333.615", "endTime": "2347.26", "body": "The physical state of not having that partner while you have this work to be done, you have this love to give, this assignment to complete. You know what God's put in your life. So I'm glad that you do I I mean, honestly, I'm not surprised. You're my dog. I'm not surprised that you you think that way." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "2347.26", "endTime": "2356.665", "body": "But there's a lot of men who just think, you know, I have not because I asked not. Yeah. Right? And they're asking God for and the truth is even if you're asking God for what work are you doing? Mhmm." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "2356.665", "endTime": "2357.3052", "body": "How are you how" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2357.3052", "endTime": "2362.5251", "body": "are you doing? Start working. And same for women. Same for women. Do the work." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2362.76", "endTime": "2377.035", "body": "If you want a see, determine first off whether or not you want a godly godly husband or a good husband. Right? We talked about that earlier. Determine that. And if you want a godly husband, you gotta do the work because he'll find you." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2377.275", "endTime": "2387.1948", "body": "Right? You do the work. Godly man needs to do the work. Don't sit here and wait twiddle your thumbs. So the woman that is next for me, you know what I'll find her doing?" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2387.1948", "endTime": "2392.6", "body": "Work. Work. Work. So I don't have to go out here. I'm not on the apps." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2392.6", "endTime": "2410.9949", "body": "I'm not doing all of it. I don't have to do all of that because I know as long as I'm working, doing what I'm supposed to do and she's working, God is going to bring us together for his divine purposes, which is to glorify his kingdom because we're already doing it. Mhmm. Get with the program. Start doing what you're supposed to do." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2411.295", "endTime": "2417.155", "body": "Stop crying about it. Right? And I know it's easier said than done, but I'm telling you from experience. Yeah. I have my cry moments." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2417.61", "endTime": "2426.81", "body": "Right? I have my scream moments. I have my cussing moments. Mm-mm. But after all that is said and done, I got to work, bro." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "2426.81", "endTime": "2430.81", "body": "Yeah. Tell them what? The phrase will be stop lurking and get to working, baby. Get to working." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2430.81", "endTime": "2431.29", "body": "You know, I was" }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "2431.29", "endTime": "2432.9702", "body": "looking around and ain't doing nothing to" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2432.9702", "endTime": "2433.2102", "body": "take" }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "2433.2102", "endTime": "2446.89", "body": "care of what they got that's in front of them. That's who they are that's in them. I'm realizing, man, that's the best time where God gets the best from us is when we're focused on what we need to be focused on, which is him. Yeah. And we're doing the work that he's given us, which is maybe in our hands right in front of us." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "2446.89", "endTime": "2459.47", "body": "And then like you said, the connection comes together. Yeah. So all of this now, how are you feeling on today? Like, you've gone through a season where hell broke loose, like, wildly broke loose. You're here now." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "2459.5552", "endTime": "2462.0352", "body": "How is Chris King feeling on today in this season?" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2462.0352", "endTime": "2473.8152", "body": "Man, I feel hopeful. I feel energetic. I feel excited. I feel blessed, man, because I'm thankful. It's odd, man." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2474.65", "endTime": "2493.185", "body": "It's really I I can't explain this. This this part, I just can't explain. It's odd that I am thankful that this happened for me and not to me. Because now see, it's when you have the weight, and I don't fault her. Right?" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2493.185", "endTime": "2504.8052", "body": "Mhmm. Mhmm. Again, the most powerful thing you can do is change your mind. If you've changed your mind, that's okay, but you can't go. You can't you you can't go on this this flight because you've changed your mind." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2505.0251", "endTime": "2523.075", "body": "Right? I can't take off with the weight of that. Right? So I'm thankful that it came out now, right, as opposed to me being up here. And then I'm I'm I'm overjoyed, man, Because through leaning into the circumstance, it's like, man, other people gonna be blessed." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2523.075", "endTime": "2535.07", "body": "A lot of dudes, you know, we talk to them and it's like, hey, man, dude, my wife, you know, did the same thing. Just up to say it. She ain't wanna be married no more. You know? And kids, everything." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2535.07", "endTime": "2540.8298", "body": "I mean, yeah. They go through the same thing. I've met so many men. They're going through the same thing. Women too." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2540.8298", "endTime": "2550.985", "body": "Right? We talk about the women often. We don't talk about the men. Right? But we talk about the women and, you know, women, hey, husbands just bounce." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "2551.125", "endTime": "2570.83", "body": "Now let me ask a question. This might be a little tricky. This is probably gonna be for those who are even wondering if there's anything in the form of accountability that you can look at when it comes to you. What would you say you learned in this last season that helps you because at least give you the the space of saying, okay. I'm I can be more accountable when it comes to this." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2570.97", "endTime": "2583.865", "body": "That is man, that's an excellent question, man. Because if you know me, you know the first person I look at is me. For sure. So when I tell people, being a former athlete, I don't have a problem looking at me because every after every game, we looked at game film. All your mistakes were right there in front of you." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2583.865", "endTime": "2591.21", "body": "Yeah. So one of the first things and that's why I went to my counselor. I said, hey. I need to learn how to be more vulnerable. Okay." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2591.51", "endTime": "2602.49", "body": "I had a problem with vulnerability. Still have a problem with vulnerability, but I'm working through it. Gotcha. It's a it's an area of development for me. Another thing is just sheer communication." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2603.11", "endTime": "2613.935", "body": "Right? Learning how to communicate. Right? Effectively. Everybody has different communication styles and, you know, being able to listen and really, really, really do that." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2613.935", "endTime": "2636.5752", "body": "And then also giving grace, man, learning how to give grace, man. One of the things that I struggled with was one, giving grace to myself and receiving God's grace. So therefore, I had a problem with giving it to to to others. So being able to give grace and be like, okay, you know, that's your that's you struggling with that. I'm struggling with this." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2636.5752", "endTime": "2646.655", "body": "Let's come together. Let's work it out. Those types of things. So, those are those are some things that I definitely need and have been working on. Right?" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2646.655", "endTime": "2665.1748", "body": "And could be held accountable. And when I say communication from a standpoint of marriage, we're talking about communication from communicating about finance and making decisions and incorporating that setting up overall vision and and really communicating that and you know, holding the family accountable to it. So all those different things. Right? Mhmm." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2666.135", "endTime": "2691.085", "body": "And allowing here's the big thing I learned. How to allow God to work through your woman to be exactly who she's called to be. See, there's so much strength in that. And for me, there was a, an age gap. There was experience gap." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2691.545", "endTime": "2708.58", "body": "There was the pastoral aspect. And so with all of that, you start reading your own press releases, Right? Thinking that, oh, okay. I'm the man I gotta do x y z. And you don't necessarily lean on her to to leverage her gifts." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2708.58", "endTime": "2719.145", "body": "And that helps her grow, but it also helps both of you grow. And so I could have done a better job. I'm not saying I never did anything. Right? I'm just saying I could have done a better job at at that." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2719.145", "endTime": "2728.53", "body": "Right? So no, nobody's innocent. Right? Nobody's completely, innocent, you know, when it comes to divorce. Right?" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2728.53", "endTime": "2740.895", "body": "We all have a part to play in it. But I've sat down and I've really examined myself and say, here are the things I need to work on, before my next relationship. And there's some others too." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "2740.995", "endTime": "2770.865", "body": "I think what you just said at the end unlocks it unlocked for me. I think it unlocked for a lot of men is I heard John Bevere talk about his that same space with his wife, Lisa, on their podcast where he spoke on. It's I think that's something you learn in marriage, but you also learn in your relationship with the father where you learn as men Mhmm. Not to carry the weight of everything Yeah. And notice what God has given your wife to be able to literally help complete those there's I heard it best." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "2770.865", "endTime": "2782.83", "body": "One of my homegirls was telling me, she said, a wise man, and especially as a husband, knows how to let his wife be at least direct. Mhmm. Right? There's a direction that still happens with the decision of that man. Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "2782.83", "endTime": "2792.51", "body": "A a a wise a Proverbs 31, p 31 type woman would definitely give you insight. I heard Eric Thomas talk about it. Mhmm. Mhmm. He always talks about Didi." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "2792.51", "endTime": "2801.055", "body": "Yeah. As much as he's making all, what, 200,000 a speaking engagement Mhmm. He still looks for the wisdom Yeah. Of his wife. Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "2801.055", "endTime": "2807.215", "body": "Right? So even the king needs a queen on the chessboard, the queen protects. Yeah. You get what I'm saying?" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2807.215", "endTime": "2809.155", "body": "There's wisdom in in that woman." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "2809.215", "endTime": "2815.63", "body": "And that's the that's the form in which men we have to understand that gym, you know, that is a game changer." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2815.63", "endTime": "2829.465", "body": "And it doesn't take away from your role or your importance. Right? It doesn't take away from who you are and who you're supposed to be. Right? Early on, so in my second when we were married for twelve twelve years." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2829.605", "endTime": "2835.605", "body": "Yeah. Twelve years. So early on, you know, I'm thinking, okay. I gotta be the man. I don't want, you know, whatever that look like." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2835.605", "endTime": "2852.2", "body": "You know? Yeah. But as time went on, I'm like, that's a part of being the man, recognizing the gifts and the strength in other people and allowing them to help along the way. Right? And that didn't take away from me being a man that actually made me more the man." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2852.26", "endTime": "2857.995", "body": "You know what I'm saying? So I learned that, right? I wish I learned it, you know, sooner. Right. Later." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2857.995", "endTime": "2860.475", "body": "I ain't learned about it. But I learned" }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "2860.475", "endTime": "2867.31", "body": "that bad boy now, you know? Trust me. Like, what you want? What you, what do you feel? How do you feel?" }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "2867.47", "endTime": "2871.23", "body": "What do you think? That definitely helps because that's a that's a cheat code." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2871.23", "endTime": "2874.11", "body": "You know what I'm saying? So ladies, if you hear that, man, I didn't learn that." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "2874.11", "endTime": "2874.51", "body": "So call" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2874.51", "endTime": "2876.6702", "body": "me at 555123." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "2876.6702", "endTime": "2877.31", "body": "Hey. Hey." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2877.31", "endTime": "2881.4102", "body": "Hey. Don't give out all the numbers, bro. Give out 7. Give me 3." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "2881.645", "endTime": "2882.365", "body": "My dog about to" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2882.365", "endTime": "2883.165", "body": "give out the whole number." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "2883.405", "endTime": "2899.73", "body": "55. No, man. That's that's powerful, bro. So in in this whole journey now, we're saying, like, it's safe enough to say that this won't be a challenge, meaning we won't be in these positions of divorce anymore. We're committed to covenant." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "2899.73", "endTime": "2905.1099", "body": "We're not just getting into the idea of mayors. Right? We're committed to covenant. There's work that's been done. There's work that's still being done." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "2905.3298", "endTime": "2914.205", "body": "And we are not afraid Yeah. Of stepping into what God has blessed because there is a favor Yeah. That comes with it. And I ain't gonna lie. I don't like like the single life." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "2914.205", "endTime": "2916.685", "body": "I'm cool. I don't that's training grounds right now." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2916.685", "endTime": "2925.5798", "body": "Yeah. Now I do wanna just let people know Yeah. Right? In regards to my situation, because the question can be asked like, well, if you're a godly man, you love your wife like Christ loved the church. Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2925.5798", "endTime": "2927.3599", "body": "When did you when did you give up?" }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "2927.74", "endTime": "2929.68", "body": "You didn't give you already spoke on that." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2929.8198", "endTime": "2934.665", "body": "Well Go ahead and reiterate it. I I reiterate that. I fought. You did. Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2934.665", "endTime": "2957.73", "body": "I fought. However, there was a, there was a point when I said, okay, I will release her. And I did that, after I through much prayer and after through was painfully obvious that that was And you're missing some bro. Listen, I'm gonna stop you." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "2957.73", "endTime": "2961.3052", "body": "I ain't gonna let you jump off the cliff yet. You also had wise counsel. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "2961.3052", "endTime": "2963.3252", "body": "You went through a a plethora" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2963.625", "endTime": "2964.185", "body": "Yeah. Yeah. Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "2964.2651", "endTime": "2968.985", "body": "Of avenues. Not just Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Not just professional therapy, spiritual counsel" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2969.3052", "endTime": "2971.7852", "body": "Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right?" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2971.7852", "endTime": "2972.425", "body": "You yeah. You know" }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "2972.425", "endTime": "2973.145", "body": "what I'm saying? You might" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2973.145", "endTime": "2975.2898", "body": "have to jump off the tube with no parachute, bro. Yeah. No. No. No." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2975.2898", "endTime": "2976.5698", "body": "I I got you. And I should take that." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "2976.5698", "endTime": "2977.21", "body": "Yeah. All day." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2977.21", "endTime": "2990.0552", "body": "I I wanna let people know that there there there may come a time. Right? There may come a time where you do have to let somebody go. Right? And you go through all those steps." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "2990.0552", "endTime": "3004.22", "body": "Right? You fight Exhausting every Exhausting every option. So that you can leave with your head hill high and say, I left it all on the field. Right? And so I do want people to know that there may be a time that you do have to let somebody go." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "3005.4001", "endTime": "3008.52", "body": "And, you know, if that time comes, this is how you get through that." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "3008.52", "endTime": "3009.0", "body": "That's good." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "3009.0", "endTime": "3021.7952", "body": "And this is how you make that decision. So, yeah, you're absolutely right. I went through tons of tons of I went through tons of professional counsel. I went through, you know, trying and, you know, doing all kinds of other things. Right?" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "3021.7952", "endTime": "3024.595", "body": "So but absolutely. But there may come a time where that happens." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "3024.595", "endTime": "3042.01", "body": "So your side is beautifully said and it's beautifully understood. My side, I literally gave up in the beginning, and then I tried to recover. So there is a time where a woman, if the man was like, I wasn't a good steward Mhmm. She got burnt out. Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "3042.1501", "endTime": "3054.6648", "body": "By the time we ended, we ended in counseling. Mhmm. And that was clearly going to be our last session, and it was definitely spoken in that session that we weren't gonna continue. This was after the first divorce. This was going into the second attempt." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "3055.125", "endTime": "3056.2449", "body": "So let me ask you this." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "3056.2449", "endTime": "3058.1648", "body": "Uh-oh. Yeah. I'm probably asking you the question." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "3058.1648", "endTime": "3066.1", "body": "I know. But I'm gonna get you let me get you. Because you you let me say this and you didn't chime in. Alright? I talked about times where I cried." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "3066.64", "endTime": "3070.58", "body": "Right? I screamed. I cussed. Yeah. You know, I literally boo hoo." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "3071.04", "endTime": "3075.7", "body": "You know? Not even Not even Not even You know? Yeah. Were there moments that you" }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "3076.905", "endTime": "3078.905", "body": "cried? Oh, man. What you mean? What?" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "3078.905", "endTime": "3086.185", "body": "Yeah. Oh, my god. Tell me about tell you they let let me what what happened? And what was that like? And what was the result of it?" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "3086.185", "endTime": "3105.3699", "body": "Because, like, sometimes we just need just to let it out. And then sometimes that marks the, the beginning of something powerful, monumental, whether it's recovery, whether it's bounce back or whether it's, you know, you know, whatever. So what was that moment like for you when you just like cried?" }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "3108.045", "endTime": "3122.57", "body": "Well, I I think I got really the good the good cry took place at the very end, bro, when I saw, like, the final order. Mhmm. And, because it's like adrenaline. It's the most backwards way of getting adrenaline. Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "3122.57", "endTime": "3131.79", "body": "Like, you're going through it's fight or flight. You're literally I'm on edge. She's on edge. We're living in the same house. I got a boat lock on my room door." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "3131.9302", "endTime": "3142.1848", "body": "Mhmm. I got four cameras inside the crib. I got one in the driveway, one in the garage. The police done came through so many times. They said next time we come through, if we have to again, we both of y'all get arrested." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "3142.1848", "endTime": "3151.64", "body": "Mhmm. And it's not even about just being it's not about physical. It's about the the vindictiveness. It's about the immaturity. It's about you go from being the institution of marriage to being in an institution." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "3151.94", "endTime": "3162.1199", "body": "Yeah. Like, we living like that for ten months. So I think I went through that whole shoot, bro. I was so savage. I went through that whole season, like, ten and eleven, almost a year." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "3162.34", "endTime": "3173.665", "body": "And at the end, when she finally left, house is empty. Oh. You hear me? I got that like, the fight was I'm keeping the house, but my now I'm paying more for the house." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "3173.665", "endTime": "3176.305", "body": "Yeah. Yeah. She got the money. Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "3176.305", "endTime": "3181.98", "body": "I don't see no money. Yeah. So it's so, like, not together. It's so lopsided. Mhmm." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "3181.98", "endTime": "3202.6848", "body": "And it's quiet in the house. And, like, my mom used to come and stay with me during the divorce process. My sister, she's a lawyer. She used to come stay with me during the divorce process. So I had women that were with me on the battle lines in the same space where I lived with the the the soon to be divorced woman as much as I'm going to be a divorced man, and they're protecting me as a woman." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "3202.6848", "endTime": "3203.005", "body": "Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "3203.005", "endTime": "3215.41", "body": "They're giving me gain. It's it's the weirdest thing ever. Like, a woman that's my mom and my sister, specifically my sister, is giving me gain on how to move. Mhmm. I'm being given legal like, I can't be stubbornly litigious." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "3215.47", "endTime": "3225.0051", "body": "I'm like, I'm like, I'm going through the most reverse weird way of school, of being schooled about something that I put myself in. I didn't steward. Right? I was trashing it. Mhmm." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "3225.225", "endTime": "3236.49", "body": "Had a great heart posture, but didn't know how to manage what it is that was needed to be led by, obviously, me submitting to Christ. Yeah. I took the wheel, ran it right off the edge. Right? So now I'm having a all that's done." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "3236.49", "endTime": "3240.8901", "body": "Adrenaline's gone. I'm by myself. Now what? Silence. And I'm sitting there." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "3240.8901", "endTime": "3255.825", "body": "It's just all I could do was cry. I cried. I cried until at some point, you can't cry twenty four hours straight. So I I stopped, then I started getting into the word. And I made that pact with God because then I knew that during the divorce process, I said, God, you get me out of this unscathed." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "3255.825", "endTime": "3261.845", "body": "I promise to serve you. So I was left with that covenant. Oh. The old covenant that was busted. Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "3261.985", "endTime": "3277.965", "body": "Now it's me and God. This covenant gotta be the one that sets the tone for the next covenant. So now I gotta really have a relationship that I never had with God because he kept his part. She got she got out. They tried to Telroy wanted me to sell the house, so we would have just been both out of luck." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "3278.365", "endTime": "3283.425", "body": "I'm like, nah. I'm a keep mine. I've got the house right before I got married. Mhmm. But she fought for it as marital property." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "3283.485", "endTime": "3291.57", "body": "Cool. Take what you gotta take. Now the covenant that matters is me and God, bro. So I'm talking about I got into Kenneth Hagin books. Mhmm." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "3291.57", "endTime": "3304.6902", "body": "I'm reading the word, and I believe that's literally where God condemnation. I was hard on myself. Yeah. Didn't give myself grace. Had to learn what it looked like to give myself grace to be forgiven of myself as much as I wanted to be able to move forward." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "3304.6902", "endTime": "3312.695", "body": "I can't move forward if I'm if I'm condemning myself. Right. Right. God bestowed his love on on me during that time. He gave me the vision of husband type." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "3312.695", "endTime": "3324.47", "body": "Maybe, like, two, about between two to four months later, I got the vision of husband type. And that literally has been a form of therapy. It's the ashes being turned into beauty." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "3324.47", "endTime": "3325.19", "body": "Yeah, man." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "3325.19", "endTime": "3337.685", "body": "You feel me? It's me understanding, like Yeah. Oh, I really jumped in covenant through cohabitation Mhmm. Both times. I bought I bought I bought into the the lie of living together Mhmm." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "3337.885", "endTime": "3346.365", "body": "With kids Mhmm. Because it's like you already a family. Yeah. And then you go from that cohabitation into the courthouse. So I did it both times." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "3346.365", "endTime": "3350.72", "body": "Two different women, two different scenarios, but the same process. Okay. Can't cohabitate no more." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "3350.72", "endTime": "3350.96", "body": "Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "3350.96", "endTime": "3357.3599", "body": "Can't go from that to the courthouse no more. Never did premarital counseling. Mhmm. Never proposed. Like, never did any of that stuff." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "3357.3599", "endTime": "3376.915", "body": "And folks like, how do you so what we're gonna do is we're gonna do everything that we didn't do. The things you did do, just leave that. Don't do those anymore. So process of elimination was crazy, but my crying process happened heavily at the end, and God did something magically beautiful for my heart, man. Like, miraculously beautiful for my heart, not magically." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "3376.915", "endTime": "3385.0", "body": "Because, ultimately, when I tell you I didn't know what was gonna come of it, all I knew was, okay. I have a house. I got a roof over my head. It's more expensive." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "3385.0", "endTime": "3386.1199", "body": "So it's just you and God?" }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "3386.1199", "endTime": "3386.8398", "body": "Just me and God." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "3386.8398", "endTime": "3401.0947", "body": "What are we gonna do now? And your cry was basically a realization, sitting in silence, realization that, okay, God, I'm here. And realizing that you had something to do with that. What? Bro, you know how hard that is?" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "3401.0947", "endTime": "3404.535", "body": "It's like, God, I don't wanna be here no more. You know what I'm saying? Come to" }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "3404.535", "endTime": "3405.4348", "body": "the end of yourself." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "3405.575", "endTime": "3413.31", "body": "And that's the big thing. Right? It's like, at some point, we have to realize, look. Alright. Alright." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "3413.31", "endTime": "3414.27", "body": "O for two. I don't" }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "3414.27", "endTime": "3415.1501", "body": "like this version. You know what" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "3415.1501", "endTime": "3417.49", "body": "I'm saying? Yeah. O for two. O for two. Alright." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "3417.79", "endTime": "3430.185", "body": "But you know what? It ain't over. I still get more bats at the plate. And God, there's so much that I've learned. You made me into so much more than what I used to be." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "3430.245", "endTime": "3455.245", "body": "And so now God, I welcome whatever change you got to do with me to make me who you want me to be and who you've called me to be. Right now, God, as I do that work, I'm crying out to you, of course, in expectation to bless me. Who's going to be on that ride with me as you take me to that next level. And but it's all Beautifully said. Beautifully said." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "3455.245", "endTime": "3457.245", "body": "I can't repeat it because I was just off the top of the No." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "3457.245", "endTime": "3457.725", "body": "Beautifully said." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "3457.725", "endTime": "3459.165", "body": "You know what I'm saying? That's it." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "3459.165", "endTime": "3462.19", "body": "And I hope it resonates for any men who watching this, whether" }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "3462.51", "endTime": "3462.6702", "body": "Yeah." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "3462.75", "endTime": "3472.77", "body": "You've done and fought to the end, whether you didn't fight the good fight throughout, but you realize that you have to get back up. Yeah. Wounds and all, but god is the healer. He's a redeemer. He's a restorer." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "3473.31", "endTime": "3485.195", "body": "What whatever side it's on, as men, we have an opportunity to get back in the game, to get back at bat if that's what you desire and if that's what God has purposed on your life to be able to carry that out with a partner. So I'm blessed, man." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "3485.255", "endTime": "3503.975", "body": "So, man, as we wrap up, man, I really wanna incur I wanna thank you, but I wanna encourage people that have been divorced, going through it now that one is not over. Right? Take it from somebody that's twice divorced. Okay. Marriage is a beautiful thing." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "3503.975", "endTime": "3525.6902", "body": "It's an honorable thing. I still believe in it. And I'm so thankful and grateful that I've had the opportunity to love in that way because I want to encourage people and let people know because once you accept the love of God and accept his grace, there's no other love like it. No matter what happens, you can get through it. You're going to get through it." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "3525.6902", "endTime": "3544.16", "body": "And I hope today blessed you with some tips on how to deal with the rejection, how to get through divorce, how to have better outlook and how to do the work. Because I'm telling you, it is worth it. I feel hopeful. Hopefully, you do too, Pete. I know you feel hopeful." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "3544.16", "endTime": "3560.555", "body": "Of course. I'm excited for my life, your life, and your life that's watching and what God has to come. So I just wanna encourage you all to definitely check us out on the when all hell breaks loose podcast. I'm your boy, Chris King. Check us out on all the social channels." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "3560.9348", "endTime": "3601.32", "body": "Go like subscribe on YouTube, everywhere else that where you can stream your spot, your podcast. When all hell breaks loose podcast, go out to wahblpodcast.com or wahblpodcast on all of the social media channels and just come check us out. Tell us what you are going through and we wanna walk through walk with you through this process as well because we want to see people blessed. We want to see people restored and we want to see thriving marriages because it is possible. And I know without a shadow of a doubt that I'll be there, you'll be there and they'll be there too." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "3601.32", "endTime": "3618.675", "body": "So I want to thank y'all and I just want to just encourage y'all share this, like it, share it with your friends, neighbors, even tell your enemies, but tell them with love to come check us out on the When All Hell Breaks Loose podcast. Hey, Pete, man. Thanks so much for joining us, man. Let the people know where they can find you." }, { "speaker": "Gauntlette \"Pete\" Alexander", "startTime": "3618.675", "endTime": "3628.9902", "body": "See, thanks for having me. You guys can follow me on the YouTube, THT conversations as well as on the Instagram at the husband type conversations. Appreciate you." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "3629.07", "endTime": "3641.621", "body": "Man. Appreciate you, man. And for those out there, again, go tell your friends, tell your neighbors, even tell your enemies, but tell them with love. Just check us out on the When All Hell Breaks Loose podcast. That's w a h b l podcast." }, { "speaker": "Chris King", "startTime": "3641.621", "endTime": "3652.584", "body": "That's w a h b l podcast. Go check us out. Subscribe. Like on all the social channels, and know that life is worth living, and so are you. Y'all be blessed." } ] }