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<v Speaker 1>Hey, everybody, we're the Bible guys, and if you're just

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're building building out a new studio and we've

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<v Speaker 2>some of our greatest hits.

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<v Speaker 3>So, Jeff, if I were to go, okay, go ahead

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<v Speaker 3>and preach, could you preach under threat of death?

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<v Speaker 4>I hope? So yeah, I think everybody needs to be

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<v Speaker 4>ready to preach. Prayer died at any minute and any minute.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it says here in my Bible that Paul preaches

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<v Speaker 3>under Roman guard.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh okay, Well he's Chris and I'm Jeff, and we're

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<v Speaker 4>the Bible guys. Okay, Chris, So I've got a good

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<v Speaker 4>one for you today.

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<v Speaker 3>All right.

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<v Speaker 4>Our segment is It's in your wheelhouse. So we're back

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<v Speaker 4>with more badly described films that Cres has to guess. So,

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<v Speaker 4>just to be clear, you have to name the movie.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're describing it poorly, and I have to figure

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<v Speaker 3>out what.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm giving you a bad bad woman explanation. Although I

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<v Speaker 4>think these are pretty good. I think these are good.

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<v Speaker 4>Here you go. The first one, a depressed office worker

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<v Speaker 4>joins a cult and destabilizes the government. Oh wow, a.

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<v Speaker 3>Depressed office worker joins a cult.

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<v Speaker 4>And distin I have no idea. It's the matrix, I think.

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<v Speaker 3>I think, my goodness, are you kidding me? By the way,

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<v Speaker 3>I think that that's poorly written.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's the hardest one. That is pretty It's

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<v Speaker 4>a great description, now now that you know what we're

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<v Speaker 4>talking about.

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<v Speaker 3>Not the government anyways, depressed, what is it?

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<v Speaker 4>What is it that?

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<v Speaker 3>The other way?

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<v Speaker 4>The cult?

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<v Speaker 3>It wasn't a call. It was actually the It was

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<v Speaker 3>a actually like the truth, the only truth that there was.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but it was against the rules.

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<v Speaker 3>Was okay, that was a poorly poorly.

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<v Speaker 4>This one's better. This one's better. After the death of

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<v Speaker 4>her parents, a young socialite causes millions and property damage.

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<v Speaker 3>After the death of her parents.

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<v Speaker 4>This is right up your alley. What is it? After

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<v Speaker 4>the death of her parents, a young socialite causes millions

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<v Speaker 4>and property damage. I have no idea. She just has

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<v Speaker 4>to let it go.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh you're talking about you're talking about Elsa.

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<v Speaker 4>Because that's what she does. Okay, Hey I.

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<v Speaker 3>Kind of frown on that description too.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, well these are poorly described.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, like it made it sound like she did

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<v Speaker 3>that because the death of her parents death of her

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<v Speaker 3>parents was like years and years and years before that happened.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, anyway, go ahead, and Emo teen can't live up

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<v Speaker 4>to his grandfather there's legacy and takes it out on

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<v Speaker 4>his dad.

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<v Speaker 3>An Emo team team. Oh, Emo teen.

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<v Speaker 4>Can't live up to his father's legacy and takes it

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<v Speaker 4>out on his dad.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to waste too much dead time thinking

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<v Speaker 3>about it, so I have to say I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Star Wars The Force Awakens.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry. Em Well, emo emo doesn't mean emotional. Emo

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<v Speaker 3>means like a certain like.

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<v Speaker 4>A golf shirt. Shut. But that's okay, Okay, I don't

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<v Speaker 4>like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, what made Chris mad? Let's go to that.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, Yeah, how about here is number four? Immigrant adoptee

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<v Speaker 4>is repatriated to country of birth, experiences culture, culture, shock,

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<v Speaker 4>and prejudice one more time. Immigrant adoptee has repatriated to

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<v Speaker 4>his country of birth, experiences culture shock and prejudice, and

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<v Speaker 4>he also meets his dad and sings to him. I

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<v Speaker 4>have no idea elf. That's a good description. I thought,

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<v Speaker 4>that's a good one. And okay, here you'll get this one.

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<v Speaker 4>You'll get this one. Adopted kid's older brother won't let

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, well, okay four obviously. Yeah, that one. That

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<v Speaker 3>one's pretty easy there. It's the only one that even

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<v Speaker 3>came close to being actually actually Elf was out. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I would actually say was accurate.

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<v Speaker 4>It was clever, Yeah, it was clever. Yeah. The other

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<v Speaker 4>ones were just flat out just well frozen. They needed

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<v Speaker 4>one more indicator there because that was all accurate too. No,

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<v Speaker 4>she does tons of damage, yeah, of course.

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<v Speaker 3>But they connected the dots. They said, because her parents died,

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<v Speaker 3>is what it.

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<v Speaker 4>Made after that. I just said after the death of

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<v Speaker 4>her parents, right, which is not because.

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<v Speaker 3>After the death of the parents' comma she did these things, right, right, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>here's the reality. Her parents died when she was young.

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<v Speaker 3>Years and years later, she discovers something about herself and

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<v Speaker 3>then causes money.

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<v Speaker 4>So after it doesn't mean because right after the moon landing,

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<v Speaker 4>Jeff and Chris did a podcast. Those aren't the same, right,

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<v Speaker 4>So it's not because of the moon landing. Jeff and

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<v Speaker 4>Chris do the Okay podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>I know being an avid reader, and I know what

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<v Speaker 3>I know. You know that that is not correct because

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<v Speaker 3>it could be technically correct.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's written is correct.

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<v Speaker 3>It's written to lead you down a pathway.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that's the idea of written movie descriptions.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I would disagree. I would think that it would

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<v Speaker 3>have to be accurate to actually help you guess.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, it is accurate, but did her actions happen after

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<v Speaker 4>her parents died?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, we're going to go back.

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<v Speaker 4>Our listeners are like, I'm tuning out.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, let's move on.

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<v Speaker 4>Hey, somebody recently just gave us a good suggestion that said,

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<v Speaker 4>why don't we put a hyperlink right at the end

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<v Speaker 4>of the game so people can skip to the after this.

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<v Speaker 4>So we're sorry, Thank you for the three people who

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<v Speaker 4>are still listening. Chris just isn't very good at remembering

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<v Speaker 4>the names of movies. I guess so acts Chapter twenty eight,

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<v Speaker 4>verse seventeen. I take offense to that, and I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't mean the offense. Will you please forgive me?

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<v Speaker 3>I will I just want to hang out on my

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<v Speaker 3>anger a little.

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<v Speaker 4>Save that for the next what made Chris mad this week?

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<v Speaker 4>So we're wrapping up. I mean, this is the end

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<v Speaker 4>of Acts, chapter of the Book of Acts, yep, right here.

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<v Speaker 4>And then tomorrow we're moving into the Book of Finalman.

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<v Speaker 4>We're going to start cleaning up some of the last

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<v Speaker 4>few books that he wrote. Most of these last books

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<v Speaker 4>are fairly short. But today we're wrapping up. It says

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<v Speaker 4>three days after Paul's arrival to Rome, he called together

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<v Speaker 4>the local Jewish leaders. He said to them, brothers, I

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<v Speaker 4>was arrested in Jerusalem and handed over to the Roman government,

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<v Speaker 4>even though I'd done nothing against our people or the

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<v Speaker 4>customs of our ancestors. The Romans tried me and wanted

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<v Speaker 4>to release me because they found no cause for the

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<v Speaker 4>death sentence. But when the Jewish leaders protested this decision,

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<v Speaker 4>I felt it necessary to appeal to Caesar, even though

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<v Speaker 4>I had no desire to press charges against my own people.

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<v Speaker 4>I asked you to come here today so we could

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<v Speaker 4>get acquainted, and so I could explain to you when

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<v Speaker 4>I'm bound that I'm bound with this chain because I

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<v Speaker 4>believe that the hope of Israel. The Messiah has already come.

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<v Speaker 4>They replied, We've had no letters from Judea or reports

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<v Speaker 4>against you from anyone who's come here, but we want

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<v Speaker 4>to hear what you believe, for the only thing we

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<v Speaker 4>know about this movement is that its denounced everywhere. So

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<v Speaker 4>a time was set, and on that day a large

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<v Speaker 4>number of people came to Paul's lodging. He explained and

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<v Speaker 4>testified about the Kingdom of God, tried to persuade them

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<v Speaker 4>about Jesus from the scriptures, using the Law of Moses

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<v Speaker 4>and the books of the prophets. He spoke to them

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<v Speaker 4>from morning until evening. Some were persuaded by the things

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<v Speaker 4>he said, but others did not believe. After they had

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<v Speaker 4>argued back and forth among themselves, they left with this

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<v Speaker 4>final word from Paul. The whole Holy Spirit was right

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<v Speaker 4>when he said to your ancestors, through Isaiah the Prophet,

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<v Speaker 4>go and say to this people, when you hear what

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<v Speaker 4>I say, you will not understand. When you see what

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<v Speaker 4>I do, you will not comprehend. For the hearts of

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<v Speaker 4>these people are hardened, and their ears cannot hear, and

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<v Speaker 4>they've closed their eyes so their eyes cannot see, and

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<v Speaker 4>their ears cannot hear, and their hearts cannot understand. They

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<v Speaker 4>cannot turn to me and let me heal them. So

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<v Speaker 4>I want you to know that this salvation from God

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<v Speaker 4>has also been offered to the Gentiles, and they will

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<v Speaker 4>accept it. For the next two years, Paul lived in

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<v Speaker 4>Rome at his own expense. He welcomed all who visited him,

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<v Speaker 4>boldly proclaiming the Kingdom of God and teaching about the

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<v Speaker 4>Lord Jesus Christ, and no one tried to stop it.

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<v Speaker 3>There you go, there it is, and so it wraps

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<v Speaker 3>up the book of an accident. Again we mentioned yesterday

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<v Speaker 3>kind of an abrupt ending. Yeah right, we mentioned we

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<v Speaker 3>mentioned that it was abrupt, and it's because it's not

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<v Speaker 3>a book that's supposed to fall the life of Paul.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a book that actually talks about the spread of

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<v Speaker 3>the Gospel.

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<v Speaker 1>So we see it.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it take place in Jerusalem, and we you know,

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<v Speaker 3>all the way from Act Shept two and a Pentecost,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the breaking out.

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<v Speaker 4>Of the Holy Spirit to here it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Years and years later. Paul has gone everywhere. He's gone

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<v Speaker 3>on three missionary journeys, and actually tradition says that actually

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<v Speaker 3>he might have gone on a fourth missionary journey after this.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Yeah, there's several reasons.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. And in fact, I have some notes on my

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<v Speaker 3>study Bible that actually indicate as to why there may

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<v Speaker 3>be a fourth missionary journey. And here's what it says.

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<v Speaker 3>Tradition says that Paul was released after those two years

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<v Speaker 3>out of house arrest in Rome and that he left

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<v Speaker 3>in a fourth missionary journey. Some reasons for this tradition

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<v Speaker 3>are as follows. Number one, Luke does not give us

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<v Speaker 3>an account of Paul's trial before Caesar, and Luke was

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<v Speaker 3>a detailed chronicler. Number two, the prosecution had two years

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<v Speaker 3>to bring the case to trial, and time of may

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<v Speaker 3>may have run out. Number three. In his letter to

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<v Speaker 3>the Philippians, written during his imprisonment in Rome, Paul implied

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<v Speaker 3>that he would soon be released and do further traveling.

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<v Speaker 3>Number four, Paul mentioned several places where he intended to

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<v Speaker 3>take the good news, but never visited those places in

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<v Speaker 3>his first three missionary journeys. And then finally, number five,

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<v Speaker 3>the early Christian literature talks plainly about other travels of Paul. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>so those are some pretty good reasons, yeah, to assume

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<v Speaker 3>that Paul had a fourth missionary journey.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's I think it's I think I'm fifty to

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<v Speaker 4>fifty on it, you know, fifty percent says no, I

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<v Speaker 4>think this is the end, right, and he just hangs

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<v Speaker 4>out in Rome for a long period of time. But then,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, the thing that sways it for me isn't

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<v Speaker 4>his claims of his desire to go to Spain or

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<v Speaker 4>you know, as he mentions in Romans or whatever, or

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<v Speaker 4>Church historians and writers reference other travels by Paul that

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<v Speaker 4>seem to imply that there were two arrests in Rome. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>it didn't end with Paul or John or James or

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<v Speaker 4>his disciples. Right, So, disciples make disciples, that's what disciples do.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, Dogs have puppies, cats have kittens. Disciples have disciples, right,

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<v Speaker 4>So as reproducing Christians, Christianity's always reproduced itself, and it's

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<v Speaker 4>after Paul, after James, from there until what we would

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<v Speaker 4>call the Council in Nicea, which is a couple hundred

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<v Speaker 4>reassemble a tremendous amount of ancient church history and it's

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<v Speaker 4>very very interesting stuff, very complex. Even early on there

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<v Speaker 4>was a lot of division about about certain theologies and things,

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<v Speaker 4>one way to heaven, right, and so that Antonicine Fathers

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's great, and you know, it's it's also great

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<v Speaker 3>to know that it says that you know, he's here,

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<v Speaker 3>He was boldly proclaiming the Kingdom of God. And yet

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<v Speaker 3>at the same time, it tells us that he's still

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<v Speaker 3>that he can't go where he wants to go, and

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<v Speaker 3>yet still he continues to just live his life like

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<v Speaker 3>God wants him to.

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<v Speaker 4>It's frustrating, Yeah, it's it's it probably was.

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<v Speaker 3>And even though again he expressed desires to go elsewhere

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<v Speaker 4>So here's my point.

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<v Speaker 3>find ourselves in spots where we don't really want to be,

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<v Speaker 3>and our only goal is to, you know, do what

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<v Speaker 3>let the gospel shine. I think of my wife who

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<v Speaker 3>she took a job and she was working at a

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<v Speaker 3>place where they were a part of a faith that

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<v Speaker 3>was not really what we would consider a faith, right,

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<v Speaker 3>and they constantly were just pretty oppressive about it, and

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<v Speaker 3>she's like, I got to get out of here, like

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<v Speaker 3>this is this is really awful. And it took her

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<v Speaker 3>started a new job yesterday. So but the point is this,

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<v Speaker 3>she was in the season of life, you know, where

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<v Speaker 3>it seemed like she just sort of had to be

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<v Speaker 3>God brought her way this other employee who now she

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<v Speaker 3>considers like great friends, and she was continuing to and

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<v Speaker 3>by the way, they're also pastors, you know, who believe

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<v Speaker 3>in Christ everything else, and so now they're like really

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<v Speaker 3>good friends. And so that all came about because Hey,

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna shine, and we're gonna encourage, we're going to

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<v Speaker 3>were pastors just by talking about Jesus. Hey, actually pastors.

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<v Speaker 3>My husband's a pastor too, right, Because you're just gonna shine,

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. So the last note in the Book of Acts

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<v Speaker 4>in the Life Application Study Bible, at the end of

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<v Speaker 4>that note for verse thirty one says Luke ends Acts

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<v Speaker 4>with the victorious declaration that the proclamation of the Kingdom

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<v Speaker 4>of God continued unhindered, just as God demonstrated through Paul.

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<v Speaker 4>His message is salvation through Christ is unstoppable. Jesus has

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<v Speaker 4>overcome the world and will one day return his King

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<v Speaker 4>of kings, and by the power of the Holy Spirit,

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<v Speaker 4>nothing can stop God from working in and through us.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>So here is he's he's technically imprisoned, although he's allowed

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<v Speaker 4>lifestyle at this point, but he's constantly under God. He

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<v Speaker 4>even mentions the chain. So oftentimes perhaps he's living his

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<v Speaker 4>just he's not allowed to escape. And he's still doing ministry,

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<v Speaker 4>and he's still feeling perhaps a little stifled in his ministry.

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<v Speaker 4>And yet the Kingdom of God keeps going forward. He

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<v Speaker 4>keeps sharing the gospel. He'd only been in Rome a

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<v Speaker 4>couple of days and starts inviting people who an't even believers. Hey,

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<v Speaker 4>coming over, I want to talk to you about Jesus, right,

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<v Speaker 4>And I love that. That That's how this story ends. This,

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<v Speaker 4>the Book of Acts ends as Paul is just sharing

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<v Speaker 4>the gospel again, just going on, and God's force is unstoppable.

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<v Speaker 4>What God is doing with the gospel is unstoppable, and

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<v Speaker 4>we all get to be a part of it. It's

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, I've gone to I've traveled to many

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<v Speaker 3>places on missionary you know trips and missions trips. And

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<v Speaker 3>of as a leader and you're assessing things, you're checking

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<v Speaker 3>things out, you're visiting and you know, acquainting yourself. And

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<v Speaker 3>then a missions trip is where you go and you serve, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>some kind of project, you some kind of project or

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<v Speaker 3>or do something right for the church. And so so anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>this thing's coming up here where, and I've been given

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<v Speaker 3>have a good friend who is a college roommate of

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<v Speaker 3>mine who has just sort of reinvigored his faith, and

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<v Speaker 3>this thing. And so get this. We get to preach

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<v Speaker 3>the gospel to entire villages through tennis shoes. So we

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<v Speaker 3>actually have about two thousand dollars that we're investing in

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<v Speaker 3>buying brand new shoes, and we're going and he has

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<v Speaker 3>know whether it's a vacation Baba school or not or

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<v Speaker 3>anything like this, but but I know that I'm gonna come,

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<v Speaker 3>prepare to preach and just share the gospel with people.

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<v Speaker 3>And I just think that's really great. I look forward

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<v Speaker 3>to it because whenever you get the opportunity to, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>That's really cool. Yeah, yeah, you know, using whatever tool

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<v Speaker 4>you have in your hand to move the gospel forward

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<v Speaker 4>is useful. For Paul, he used his house rights, so

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<v Speaker 4>he had he was apparently renting an apartment or some

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<v Speaker 4>the preacher standing on stage. I'm not the singer standing

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<v Speaker 4>on stage. We think the church is supposed to be

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<v Speaker 4>happening inside the building and that it's by experts. But

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<v Speaker 4>the reality is God has given you certain tools, and

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<v Speaker 4>for you to consume and to benefit from. You do

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<v Speaker 4>you benefit from them, But therefore God's loaned those to

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<v Speaker 4>you as an investment in you to move his kingdom forward.

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<v Speaker 4>And so you use whatever you Hey, if you have

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<v Speaker 4>and you have access to tennis shoes, and those tennis

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<v Speaker 4>shoes get you in front of a crowd and then

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<v Speaker 4>you're able to share the gospel. Great, you're just using

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<v Speaker 4>tennis shoes. They want them, they need them. You have

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<v Speaker 4>the opportunity to give them and share the gospel in

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<v Speaker 4>a polite and godly way. Good if you have a

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<v Speaker 4>house like Paul, use your house and bite people over.

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<v Speaker 4>Start a Bible study.

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<v Speaker 3>And by the way, it's important to know we're not

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<v Speaker 3>leveraging the tennis shoes to say, if you listen to

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, we're giving the shoes away first.

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<v Speaker 4>But it starts a conversation.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and there they were in writing people stay around

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. I used to do back when I was in college.

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<v Speaker 4>Pacific Garden Mission in Chicago. That's where Billy Sunday got saved,

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<v Speaker 4>was that at the Pacific Garden Mission and we would

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<v Speaker 4>there'd always be a dinner and then we'd host a

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<v Speaker 4>service afterwards, and the dinner was free. I feed the

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<v Speaker 4>homeless guys in the community for free, and no expectations,

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<v Speaker 4>but then come in if you want to, and we

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<v Speaker 4>to realize, Hey, at the time, the last thing I

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<v Speaker 4>to be a preacher. I just wanted people to know

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<v Speaker 4>about Jesus. So I was a trumpet player. I played

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<v Speaker 4>under compulsion, but it's just that's where we found commonality. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>and it was a really neat experience. And I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>I've just got a million of those kind of stories

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<v Speaker 4>in my life of just what do you have that

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<v Speaker 4>God has given you? Use that to share the gospel.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's awesome. You know, I knew a group of

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<v Speaker 3>guys who they were mechanics, and they couldn't imagine how

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<v Speaker 3>they can use that, you know, just to shed this,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, spread the gospel. And they blessed to the

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<v Speaker 3>others people. So they created this group that they would

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<v Speaker 3>decide to buy these old beat up cars and they

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<v Speaker 3>would fix them up and they would fix them up well,

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<v Speaker 3>and then they would donate them to single mothers and

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<v Speaker 3>it was just single mothers and it was just a

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<v Speaker 3>ministry and it was just a chance to share God's love,

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<v Speaker 3>to tell them about Jesus and things like that. And

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<v Speaker 3>they've done this for years, I think maybe even like

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<v Speaker 3>over a decade, and all they do is just and

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<v Speaker 3>so you know, the whole entire time, you know, they do.

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<v Speaker 3>They get together, they share, you know, they encourage one another.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a godly environment, you know. And then they're working

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<v Speaker 3>and building together. And then they get done with this

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<v Speaker 3>project and then they have this really you know, great

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<v Speaker 3>car that's worth a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 4>They just give it away fantastic yeah, yeah, and share

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<v Speaker 4>Christ's love with with somebody who may feel unloved.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So you know, just take what's in your hand.

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<v Speaker 3>So Rick Warren did a message one time about Moses.

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<v Speaker 4>And I know we have we have to wrap it up.

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<v Speaker 3>But I remember one time Rick Warren did a message

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<v Speaker 3>about Moses and and when he said, God, they won't

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<v Speaker 3>believe me, and how can I go to the you know,

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<v Speaker 3>children of Israel and to Pharaoh and asked them to

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<v Speaker 3>let my people go and everything else? And then God

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<v Speaker 3>said what's in your hand? And he said a staff? Right,

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<v Speaker 3>And he says, we'll throw the staff down it becomes

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<v Speaker 3>a snake, right. And then then the message I remember

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<v Speaker 3>it said, uh, what's what's in your hand? And his

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<v Speaker 3>staff represented his identity, it represented his income as as

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<v Speaker 3>a shepherd, because it was your sort of Vigo who

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<v Speaker 3>he was, and to represent his his income and his influence.

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<v Speaker 3>And I thought to myself, that is one of the

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<v Speaker 3>coolest illustrations. How it wasn't just a staff that he had.

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<v Speaker 3>That's staff was meant everything to Moses. It was his identity,

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<v Speaker 3>his income, and his influence. And he said, throw it down,

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<v Speaker 3>give it to God. And then God turned in something supernatural.

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<v Speaker 3>And so whatever God has given you, whatever gift, whatever

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<v Speaker 3>you know, influence, you know everything else, if you just

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<v Speaker 3>give it to God and say, God, how can you

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<v Speaker 3>use this to further your kingdom? God can show up

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<v Speaker 3>in miraculous ways.

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<v Speaker 4>Fantastic.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well that's a good place to end and we

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<v Speaker 3>will see you next time on the Bible guys,