In this episode of the Biblical Anarchy Podcast, Jacob Winograd sits down with returning guest Kerry Baldwin to take on a question many Christians wrestle with: if people are sinful, doesn’t that mean we need the state? Drawing on Baldwin’s long-standing work on the plausibility of stateless civil governance, the two tackle this objection head-on and show why handing unchecked power to sinners creates even greater injustice.
Their conversation digs into John Locke’s classic arguments for monopolistic civil government (the State) and turns them on their head, showing how impartial judges, clear laws, and effective enforcement actually point toward a polycentric order rather than a state monopoly. Along the way, they revisit the biblical principle of sphere sovereignty, explore how justice works in practice without centralized control, and push back on the idea that the state is inevitable. The discussion closes with practical reflections for Christians and libertarians on how to live out these principles now—through entrepreneurship, grassroots action, and faith in Christ’s ultimate kingship.
What is The Biblical Anarchy Podcast?
The Biblical Anarchy Podcast was created by Jacob Winograd as a project of the Libertarian Christian Institute, with the purpose of making the case for a free society and decentralized governance based on Biblical principles of limited authority and imitating Christ’s example of the leader/servant. If we render unto God what is God’s, we cannot bow down to Caesar or render anything unto him except that which he deserves. The podcast consists of exploring different Bible passages, anarchist theory, Austrian Economics, and finding the connection and harmony between them.
The Biblical Anarchy Podcast is part of the Christians for Liberty Network, a coalition of shows that promote human flourishing by spreading the message of liberty. Find other shows at christiansforliberty.net