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Welcome to the Soul Touched by Dogs
Podcast, the show for dog lovers who

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see dogs not as toys or tools, but
wise souls worth our respect and care.

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I'm an Herrmann, and I'm your host.

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I talk to poor some humans, people who
do great work for dogs and their people.

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So come and join us for
today's conversation.

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Anke: Hello, welcome Nicole.

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I'm super excited to have you here.

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Nicole: Yes, thank you for having me.

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I'm so glad you're doing this and
providing this platform for all of

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us and giving us a voice and spread
the word and create more awareness

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about so many topics with dogs.

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Anke: And it's my most
Delightful, favorite project.

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I'm more than, more than happy here.

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It's actually one of those funny cases.

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We could talk in German, right?

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Yeah, yeah.

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But today we won't.

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So tell people where you're based and,
you know, what's your business with dogs?

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Yes,

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Nicole: sure, sure.

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I mean, I'm sure you hear my accent.

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I'm a native German, but I've
been living here in the U.

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S.

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for 20 years now, uh, specifically
in Atlanta, Georgia, in the South.

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And today we have a rainy day and my, my
Doberman mannequin is in the background.

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That's what I use when I teach
classes about pet first aid.

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And my classes are equally for
dogs and cats, actually, for both.

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But, uh, yeah, I, I don't personally
own cats, uh, so I'm a little bit

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more focused on the dogs, but, uh,
yeah, I, I'm on my second Doberman,

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by the way, and his name is Frodo.

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He's extraordinary big, so I'm sure
a lot of, um, people that listening,

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they're familiar with Lord of the Rings
and the Hobbits, and when he came to us

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with Nine Weeks, he had these huge paws.

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Hairy paws and the hobbits have hairy
feet and big feet so this is where

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the name Frodo came and he's a, he's
a 50 kilo dog or 115 pounds but such

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a gentle soul and I, I learned a lot
so needless to say he has definitely

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touched my soul but there have been also
dogs before that touched my soul and

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that lead me to what, what I do really.

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I love

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Anke: it.

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I mean, to be honest, and we've
touched on it before we hit record,

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it's like before I came across you,
I don't think I'd ever even heard

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about First Aid for Dogs before.

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So how did you stumble across
it and what made you kind of

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turn this into your, into your

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Nicole: race?

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Yes.

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I mean, initially my background
is from the trade show business.

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I was 20 years in business, always
traveling and Basically living my life

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on a fast speed lane, uh, and, uh, so
presenting, um, and, uh, organizing

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events was, was in my nature, you know,
that's where, where my talent was, but

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I got so tired of the corporate world.

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I wanted to do something more meaningful.

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And, um, the first time I researched
Pet First Aid was actually because

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my husband is a rock climber.

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So we go camping in very remote
areas in North Carolina, for example.

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And I'm not a climber, so I, I was like
the camp mom staying behind, you know, and

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doing hikes with my Doberman back then.

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And I always ask myself, you know,
I'm, I'm really hours away from any

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emergency clinic or veterinarian, what
do I do if my dog gets bitten by a snake?

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So this is where I started
researching, and I discovered Pet Tech.

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And Pet Tech, um, is a little bit like
the American Red Cross for the pets.

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They're based in California.

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And they, they are international,
but their focus is here in the U.

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S., uh, for now.

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And, uh, this is how I started
out, you know, that, uh, they

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certified me as instructor.

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Uh, and so we all keep
with the same curriculum.

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So if you're not based in
Atlanta, you can, uh, go on their

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website, uh, at least for the U.

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S., uh, pettech.

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net, and you can find an
instructor in your area.

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But, uh, I also have the goal of, uh,
creating my own YouTube channel very soon.

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So there will be, uh, lots of
videos there as well, eventually.

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Anke: That's fascinating.

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So, I mean, first it's, it's funny
where I'm thinking, well, oh my God,

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like I think most people probably
can't even remember the little bit

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of first aid we did for people.

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Yes.

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Like I'm going for dogs, so what
are typical Emergencies that, you

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know, in your class that you'd
cover, that somebody would learn.

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Nicole: Oh my gosh,
it's a four hour class.

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And it's, uh, really very,
uh, a lot of content.

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I mean, most people after the class,
they say, oh my gosh, I didn't

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know what I didn't know, right?

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Uh, because we, we talk
about prevention a lot.

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And over the years, I've been
teaching now for eight years.

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Over the years, I included more and
more scary pictures because I know

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that it's, Anke Herrmann, Taming the
Tech Monster, Anke Herrmann, Taming

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the Tech Monster, Anke Herrmann, Taming
the Tech Monster, Anke Herrmann, Taming

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the Tech Monster, Anke Herrmann, Taming
the You know, you can't help the pet.

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So that's very important.

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And, um, so we talk about how to do
a pressure, uh, bandage, for example.

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So it's really hands on.

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We do different, uh, bandaging
techniques for the paw, for the ear,

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um, uh, and also how to do CPR, of
course, you know, and rescue breathing.

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I have a doggy mannequin here, uh, more
than one actually, where we practice, you

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know, and, um, how to induce vomiting.

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Um, how to handle choking, for example,
you know, when they, they really,

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um, uh, have a toy in the throat or
food or bone, um, allergic reactions,

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snake bites, insect bites, you know,
it's so much, uh, content really.

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Anke: And well, uh, yeah, I mean, it's
like, Oh my God, like it seems to be low.

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Boy, we all need that, right?

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Because I think it's like the worst
thing that could, I mean, I don't know,

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like as a dog lover, it's almost like
the worst thing you can imagine that

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something happens to your, to your dog.

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Cause it's like, it's always
like a person, a person can sort

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of, unless they're unconscious,
like, but like a person usually

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can kind of say where it hurts.

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They can kind of say, well,
look, this is what happened.

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And like, I fell and now my leg hurts.

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It's like, it's like, you
know, there's, there's.

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There's a little level of ownership or
autonomy that you can kind of expect

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from a person, whereas a dog can't tell
you, you know, so it's like, and you see

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them suffering and you're like, and then

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Nicole: you kind of feel like
you're letting your dog down.

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Yeah, for your pets, yes, uh, because
most of us are, are not familiar

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with, with the vitals, you know, and
that's another topic we talk about.

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If you know what's normal for your
pet, because the, the vitals, they

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vary a lot because we have all kinds of
breeds and sizes, then the difference

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between large dogs and a small cat,
for example, you know, so what, if

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you know what's normal for your pet.

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then you, you recognize, uh, the
symptoms much easier and faster.

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And sometimes really, uh, time is of
the essence where every second counts

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if you have an emergency like that.

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And I've had, uh, multiple
students or friends, you know,

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that literally saved their own pet
or, um, uh, their clients pets.

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You know, usually my classes are
half and half, the average pet owner.

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But the other half are people that
work in the industry that work with

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dogs and cats like the dog walkers
and, uh, the, the, uh, pet hotels and,

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and boarding facilities, you know,
everybody who is really in contact

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with dogs and cats, uh, should, should
learn something about pet first aid.

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And I think, um, Doing it live.

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I mean, sure, everybody can watch a
YouTube video, but it's really not

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the same when you do the exercises
yourself because You create muscle

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memory, and if you have done it before
and then the emergency happens, you

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react faster, you know exactly what to
do, and you're less likely to panic.

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And that's what it's all about.

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Yeah.

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to, to really teach people you, you can
do that, you know, and, and strangely

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enough, over the years, it's really 90
percent women that attend my classes.

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Isn't that interesting?

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Anke: What do you make of that?

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Nicole: We're more the caretakers,
you know, um, but also I wanted,

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and I say this in my classes, you
know, we, we, uh, prepare for the

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worst, but we hope for the best.

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And I, for me, every dog is a
service dog or emotional support

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dog, whether they have the official
certification or not, because we know

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that they, they go through all the
ups and downs in our lives with us.

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You know, they give us unconditional
love, they're always there, uh, for us,

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and they transform our, uh, bad mood,
they remind us to be in the moment, and

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I think we owe it to them to, to learn,
uh, a little bit about their needs and

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their bodily functions, you know, and,
and that, that is my goal to prevent

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and, and save lives, and coming back
to some of my friends and students.

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There was one person in particular
where we talked about how to do body

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checks, you know, and look for those
fatty lumps that so many dogs have.

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And she did that and she found a
lump on the abdomen and she went to

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the veterinarian and the vet said,
Oh my gosh, it's Great, you came in.

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It was a tumor at the spleen
that was about to rupture and

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unfortunately it happens quite often.

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So she literally saved her dog's
life with just by doing these body

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checks and there's so much that
we can do in terms of prevention.

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Anke: That makes so much sense.

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I think like, you know, first, like
knowing what is even normal, so you can

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detect when something's off, you know,
and then also where to look for something

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that isn't quite right, you know, yeah,
that makes, that makes so much sense.

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So if somebody wants to learn more
or find the class or like what's

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the best place for them to go.

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Nicole: My website, which is dobiemom.

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com, very, very easy to remember,
and DOBIE spelled D O B I E.

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Some of them spell it differently,
and my next class here in Atlanta,

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if you should be here in the
Atlanta area, is on April the 21st.

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on a Sunday in Dunwoody.

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Uh, but like I said, um, I will soon
have a YouTube channel with, uh,

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some snippets that you can, um, uh,
watch and, and read about first aid.

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Anke: I love it.

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I love it.

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Thank you.

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I mean, would you, are you considering
like, you know, offering online classes?

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You know, where it's like in
Zoom, in Zoom, where I can

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get the best of both worlds.

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I can get the direct, you know,
where I can practice here with my dog

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and I get, I can ask you questions.

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So I don't have to come to Atlanta
and I don't, it's the between coming

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to Atlanta and watching YouTube

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Nicole: videos.

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Yeah.

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I thought about it, you know, but I
think YouTube is really the platform to

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reach more people and spread the word
more, and like we, we talked before our

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interview, a lot of people, they, they
just have a little bit time, you know,

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so I would break it up because it's
really quite comprehensive, the content.

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So break it up in little videos, because
then you really get the content across.

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There's really a lot to learn.

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Anke: Well, thank you, but it's so worth
it because I think, you know, as you

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said, like you can save your dog's life,
you know, like that's definitely worth

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investing a little bit of time and energy.

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And so thank you so much for coming
and pointing, you know, like making

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us aware of it, because I think
there's still a long way to go before

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everybody kind of knows about it.

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And

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Nicole: I know, you know, it's human
nature that we normally think, oh, This

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always happens to other people, but
even though that I teach this stuff,

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you know, and I hear all the, uh,
stories from people, from my students,

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uh, that have lost, uh, pets already,
I have to be careful that I'm not

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getting paranoid, but things like that
happen to me too, you know, like my

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dog, uh, he wanted to jump out of the
car and I have one of these mini vans

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where the door comes out automatically.

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And his paw got caught in that mechanism,
you know, and things like that.

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Or he munched down on
my thyroid medications.

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I had to induce vomiting, you know,
and I'm like, okay, here you go.

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At least I know what to do, right?

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You know what

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Anke: to do, right?

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Nicole: But I imagine you saw
some other people that don't know

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how, what to do, you know, it,

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Anke: It might lose their

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Nicole: dog over it.

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Very stressful.

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Yes.

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And then you deal with the, if you
really lost a pet, you know, sometimes

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we do have these moments in the
class where a person starts crying

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because they realize they could have
done something to save their pet.

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And that's the most heart wrenching and
difficult stuff, you know, it's, uh, but.

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They're there now, you know, so I'm always
happy for everyone that is open and, and,

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uh, trying to learn about Pet First Aid.

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And over the years, um, more and
more people had more questions

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about nutrition as well.

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And this is how, uh, you know, sometimes
your, uh, passion just develops,

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you know, and people are asking.

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And so I became certified in
nutrition, uh, as well, uh, and I'm

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not a medical nutritionist in the
sense I'm a holistic nutritionist.

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And, uh, this class is actually online
because there's not the same amount

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of, uh, hands on exercises that you
have to do comparable to the first aid.

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So that one you can
actually, uh, watch online.

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It's a three hour, very condensed video.

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I talk about all, uh, diets, whether
it's the dry food, the canned.

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Uh, the Dehydrated, the Gently
Cooked, the Home Cooked, uh, the Raw

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Anke: Foods, you know.

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I think I want to have
you back for that one.

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Like that's, I think that's a whole
other topic that I think I'd love

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to unpack in a, in a different,
in a separate, you know, like.

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Yes, would love to.

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You can come back, like, you know, it's my
show, I can do whatever the heck I want.

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So I can have you back.

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Yes.

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Because that's a whole other
topic that I'd love to unpack.

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So,

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Nicole: yeah, definitely.

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Because that is part
of prevention as well.

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You know, and where I'm coming
from, uh, maybe because I didn't

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grow up, uh, in, in the U.

00:16:21.393 --> 00:16:24.723
S., I grew up in Germany where
we have a very different health

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system or medical system for the
humans as well as for the pets.

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It's much more about prevention
and, uh, more open to, uh, holistic

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and alternative treatments.

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This is really, uh, what my, uh, first
aid is also focused on the holistic, uh,

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role, you know, what, what can we do?

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What kind of alternatives do we have?

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Like laser treatment, uh, for example,
or acupuncture for pain management and,

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uh, the, the nutrition part as well
is, uh, we holistic nutritionists, we

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look at it from the cellular level.

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How does, um, how does that work?

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food in your body or in the dog's
body and how can we create balance

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again and heal and prevent.

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Anke: Love it.

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Love it.

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That's, that's definitely going
to be the topic for the next one.

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So DobieMum.

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com.

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Go get in touch with me, Paul.

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Thank you so much for coming.

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And I can't wait to have you back.

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Uh

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Nicole: huh.

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Love to.

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Yes.

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Looking forward to it.

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And thank you again for having me.

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Anke: My pleasure.

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