1 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,980 Josh: Apple just concluded the Super Bowl of hardware events for the year. 2 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:08,200 Josh: This is their biggest event of the year. 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:11,800 Josh: They unveiled their new flagship devices, being the iPhone, the watches, and the AirPods. 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:16,320 Josh: It just concluded. There was a lot of very cool tech that I think I'm pretty stoked about. 5 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:20,160 Josh: EJS, we might be going to war on a few topics and things you might find interesting or not. 6 00:00:20,260 --> 00:00:24,320 Josh: But before we do, I mean, I want to talk about the thing that they notably didn't 7 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,800 Josh: really announce or excluded a lot from this event, which is AI. 8 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:31,260 Josh: It felt like this was, and granted, this is a very hardware-focused episode, 9 00:00:31,460 --> 00:00:32,760 Josh: a very hardware-focused announcement. 10 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:36,800 Josh: But last week when we covered Google's announcement, it was a mostly hardware 11 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:41,680 Josh: unveiling, but all of the software on top of it was enabled by AI. 12 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:45,520 Josh: And Apple really didn't seem to have a lot of the AI, but they did have some 13 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:47,800 Josh: interesting features. So I kind of want to jump in with those. 14 00:00:47,980 --> 00:00:52,180 Josh: What was Apple's AI presence like, Ejaz, during this hardware unveiling episode? 15 00:00:52,180 --> 00:00:58,580 Ejaaz: They released a new pair of AirPod Pro 3s, which do live AI translation. 16 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:02,880 Ejaaz: So you could be speaking Spanish right now, Josh, and I'd be hearing English in mine. 17 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:06,600 Ejaaz: In fact, there's a really cool demo that I want you to see right here. 18 00:01:06,940 --> 00:01:09,880 Josh: When both people are wearing AirPods Pro. 19 00:01:11,500 --> 00:01:15,680 Josh: I agree, yeah. Eu concordo, sim. 20 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:21,220 Josh: Vamos incluir as principais descobertas na apresentação de sexta-feira. 21 00:01:24,060 --> 00:01:26,700 Josh: Definitely. The client will love that. 22 00:01:27,490 --> 00:01:30,590 Josh: I'll let the strategy team know to prepare that immediately. 23 00:01:30,890 --> 00:01:34,470 Ejaaz: So what you're watching here is basically two people having a conversation. 24 00:01:34,470 --> 00:01:39,570 Ejaaz: They're both wearing, maybe kind of dystopianly, the AirPod Pro 3s. 25 00:01:39,750 --> 00:01:44,010 Ejaaz: But they're able to communicate and converse with each other in a completely 26 00:01:44,010 --> 00:01:47,750 Ejaaz: different setting, environment, and language, which I thought was just super cool. 27 00:01:47,930 --> 00:01:51,750 Ejaaz: We saw Google release something similar to this, but that was over something 28 00:01:51,750 --> 00:01:53,990 Ejaaz: more formal like Google Meets, right? 29 00:01:54,070 --> 00:01:57,070 Ejaaz: So you have to set up a call and do this. This seems much more casual. 30 00:01:57,490 --> 00:02:04,890 Ejaaz: And I also know, Josh, that you could wear the AirPods Pro 3 and speak to someone 31 00:02:04,890 --> 00:02:09,370 Ejaaz: who isn't wearing this and the live translation will occur on your iPhone. 32 00:02:09,510 --> 00:02:11,850 Ejaaz: So you can kind of like show them a kind of transcript of what you're trying 33 00:02:11,850 --> 00:02:13,350 Ejaaz: to say and converse that way. 34 00:02:13,510 --> 00:02:15,950 Ejaaz: But Josh, do you find this as cool as I did? 35 00:02:16,270 --> 00:02:19,550 Josh: Yeah, okay. I found it cool when I saw it first unveiled by Google like six months ago. 36 00:02:19,810 --> 00:02:22,650 Josh: But I do find this cool because it's built into the ecosystem that I use. 37 00:02:22,850 --> 00:02:27,610 Josh: So in that extent, I'm very excited. AirPods, I think, are the device that I 38 00:02:27,610 --> 00:02:30,210 Josh: do not leave home with. Like people always say phone while it keys. 39 00:02:30,370 --> 00:02:33,290 Josh: For me, it's phone and AirPods. I adore them. I bring them everywhere. 40 00:02:33,670 --> 00:02:37,710 Josh: Having an upgraded version that includes this live translation seems very cool. 41 00:02:37,930 --> 00:02:39,870 Josh: I think it's important to note they were both wearing AirPods. 42 00:02:40,290 --> 00:02:43,990 Josh: In the wild, most times when you converse with someone, it's going to be one-sided AirPods. 43 00:02:44,170 --> 00:02:47,550 Josh: So they did have a feature where you can actually speak and it will listen and 44 00:02:47,550 --> 00:02:50,990 Josh: then share the words on a screen so someone who's outside of the conversation 45 00:02:50,990 --> 00:02:52,510 Josh: without AirPods can hear. For 46 00:02:52,510 --> 00:02:56,070 Josh: me, Apple has largely lost my trust when it comes to software delivery. 47 00:02:56,410 --> 00:03:00,370 Josh: So in this case, I need to see it to believe it. If it does work with low latency 48 00:03:00,370 --> 00:03:01,870 Josh: like they demoed, this is incredible. 49 00:03:02,090 --> 00:03:05,770 Josh: This would be such a cool feature where you can talk in near real time with 50 00:03:05,770 --> 00:03:07,090 Josh: anyone in the world in any language. 51 00:03:07,230 --> 00:03:10,830 Josh: And that's like a pretty remarkable thing from something so small that just sits in your ears. 52 00:03:10,990 --> 00:03:15,790 Josh: I fear that that will not be the case and that this live demo is in a very controlled 53 00:03:15,790 --> 00:03:19,450 Josh: environment and it is optimized for a perfect experience. 54 00:03:20,070 --> 00:03:23,050 Josh: Noticeably, AirPods, I mean, And even the microphone quality of AirPods, 55 00:03:23,170 --> 00:03:26,210 Josh: if you've ever tried to talk to someone, Ejaz on the phone, has been horrendous. 56 00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:31,000 Josh: It leaves. It's amazing. It's an incredible demo for an incredible product. 57 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,780 Josh: These AirPods are awesome and I will absolutely be buying them. 58 00:03:34,100 --> 00:03:37,200 Josh: But again, we'll test it. I'll believe it when I see it. 59 00:03:37,940 --> 00:03:42,180 Ejaaz: Josh, buddy, did you have your coffee this morning? You've got your Duma hat 60 00:03:42,180 --> 00:03:45,160 Ejaaz: on. You're meant to be the fanboy of this show. 61 00:03:45,340 --> 00:03:49,080 Ejaaz: Okay, let me step into your shoes for a second and just say that it comes at 62 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,740 Ejaaz: the same price, which is a very un-Apple like thing. 63 00:03:52,860 --> 00:03:56,280 Ejaaz: Normally they hike the price up hundreds of dollars for every single new model, 64 00:03:56,360 --> 00:04:02,200 Ejaaz: but it's the same price, $249 and no 99 cents. They've just kept it rendered off there. 65 00:04:02,580 --> 00:04:08,000 Ejaaz: Eight hours of battery life, built-in heart rate sensor, which is something new, Josh. I don't know. 66 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:13,420 Ejaaz: Does AirPod Pros 2 have a heart rate sensor? 67 00:04:13,740 --> 00:04:17,320 Ejaaz: It's basically where my head is going here is I think they're starting to build 68 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,400 Ejaaz: a new kind of smart device and it's kind of starting with the AirPods, 69 00:04:20,660 --> 00:04:22,340 Ejaaz: this live AI translation feature. 70 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,940 Ejaaz: Maybe they stick a camera on it in future versions maybe i'm being too much 71 00:04:25,940 --> 00:04:30,840 Ejaaz: of a moon boy about this but i found that pretty cool and and maybe i'm being too hopeful but yeah. 72 00:04:30,840 --> 00:04:34,120 Josh: Yeah health will be important i think if you're interested in the airpods the 73 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,120 Josh: only things that you care about are active noise cancellation is better it has 74 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,940 Josh: live translation um and it can read your pulse in the case that you don't have 75 00:04:40,940 --> 00:04:45,100 Josh: a tracker like an apple watch or an aura ring and that's pretty much the only thing there so 76 00:04:45,100 --> 00:04:46,440 Ejaaz: What are you excited about josh. 77 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:50,340 Josh: Yeah there's a ton of stuff i'm actually stoked for and it is all hardware related stuff. 78 00:04:50,500 --> 00:04:53,720 Josh: They released a bunch in the iPhone department, which I think we can get into 79 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:55,800 Josh: right now, starting with the iPhone Air. 80 00:04:56,060 --> 00:05:00,200 Josh: The iPhone Air is awesome. We have this really beautiful designed video that 81 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,020 Josh: shows the thinnest iPhone they've ever made, 82 00:05:02,660 --> 00:05:06,360 Josh: Ijaz, one of the things that I got really excited about is for me, 83 00:05:06,460 --> 00:05:09,600 Josh: this was the first time in a long time that Apple felt like they released a 84 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:10,660 Josh: very Apple-esque device. 85 00:05:10,840 --> 00:05:14,620 Josh: It's new, it's innovative, it's different, it's beautiful. I think we see it 86 00:05:14,620 --> 00:05:15,400 Josh: from the marketing video. 87 00:05:15,620 --> 00:05:20,020 Josh: They tried to do like a knockoff Johnny Ive promo video where they had some 88 00:05:20,020 --> 00:05:23,000 Josh: designer with a European accent start talking about it. 89 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,620 Josh: But I think the most remarkable thing about this phone is the design. 90 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:30,100 Josh: And the reason why I believe they made this phone, which I'm not sure you will 91 00:05:30,100 --> 00:05:32,900 Josh: agree with nor know about Ijaz, but I do want to get into it in a second. 92 00:05:33,260 --> 00:05:37,740 Josh: First, the actual hardware of the phone. I think, what, 85% of this phone is battery. 93 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:43,400 Josh: So the entire backside of the phone is basically a slab of glass with a battery 94 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:44,440 Josh: behind it and a back shell. 95 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:48,340 Josh: And all of the hardware, all of the compute, all of the camera sensors, 96 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:52,560 Josh: the microphones, the speakers, they're all found in this single array that exists 97 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:54,120 Josh: on top of the phone that they call the plateau. 98 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:59,220 Josh: The actual limitation of what made this as thin as it could be is the USB-C port. 99 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,780 Josh: The USB-C port is actually the thickest part of the phone. And they've kind 100 00:06:02,780 --> 00:06:05,460 Josh: of run up against this, this like natural limitation of thinness. 101 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,980 Josh: And I just found this really inspiring to me because it's a new form factor 102 00:06:09,980 --> 00:06:13,020 Josh: of a device that we've come to know and love for so long, but they've really 103 00:06:13,020 --> 00:06:16,940 Josh: done an interesting job of stacking it all in this tiny, tiny little thing and 104 00:06:16,940 --> 00:06:19,360 Josh: creating something that feels new. They use this polished titanium. 105 00:06:19,620 --> 00:06:23,140 Josh: And then as I'm watching this, I'm thinking, well, why, why would they do this? 106 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,580 Josh: What's the reasoning to make a thin phone? Like no one really asked for a thin 107 00:06:26,580 --> 00:06:28,900 Josh: phone. I'm stoked they did it. I think it's beautiful. 108 00:06:29,060 --> 00:06:32,040 Josh: It's amazing. But I mean, if you ask the average person, what they want in a 109 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,480 Josh: new iPhone, they're going to tell you, well, I just kind of want better battery 110 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,620 Josh: life, maybe a little bit better cameras. 111 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:42,240 Josh: And in fact, this battery is 48% less than the iPhone 17 Pro Max. 112 00:06:42,420 --> 00:06:46,140 Josh: So it's a significant hit to battery life. But what's interesting is this very 113 00:06:46,140 --> 00:06:50,040 Josh: much feels like it was a product made for the manufacturers more than it was 114 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,400 Josh: made for the consumers. Because what? 115 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:57,580 Josh: There was a leak a few weeks ago where Apple was looking to make the iPhone Fold next year. 116 00:06:57,780 --> 00:07:01,580 Josh: And in order to make the iPhone Fold next year, it requires a series of very 117 00:07:01,580 --> 00:07:06,280 Josh: thin components, a very small components, a very compact tech to be able to 118 00:07:06,280 --> 00:07:11,220 Josh: squeeze two very thin displays into a single piece of hardware that fits in your pocket. 119 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:16,520 Josh: So to me, this feels like this was a dry run, a short production run to get 120 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:20,540 Josh: the supply chain and manufacturer set up to create this next generation of thinner devices. 121 00:07:21,060 --> 00:07:23,080 Josh: And when I also think about what we talk about frequently, Ejaz, 122 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:27,340 Josh: which is this next level of compute through augmented reality and ambient intelligence, 123 00:07:27,340 --> 00:07:31,860 Josh: where computers kind of exist on your face in the form of glasses or the Vision 124 00:07:31,860 --> 00:07:35,720 Josh: Pro goggles, I think you really need smaller components. 125 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:39,620 Josh: And this very much feels like a test for manufacturers to create smaller components 126 00:07:39,620 --> 00:07:42,500 Josh: to fit in smaller, more confined spaces. Because if you look at the video on 127 00:07:42,500 --> 00:07:43,860 Josh: the screen right now, it's gorgeous. 128 00:07:44,060 --> 00:07:47,260 Josh: It's this tiny, thin little sliver. And then at the top, it has all the compute 129 00:07:47,260 --> 00:07:49,200 Josh: in And to me, it's a remarkable phone. 130 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:53,540 Josh: Really beautiful. If I didn't care so much about cameras, this would be a no-brainer for me to buy. 131 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:58,660 Josh: I think it is an awesome show of Apple manufacturing strength, of design capability. 132 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,600 Josh: This is super cool. And if anyone asks me what they should buy, 133 00:08:01,700 --> 00:08:04,500 Josh: if they don't care about photography, get this phone. It's awesome. 134 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,040 Josh: Did you have any takes when you watched this about what you thought about it? 135 00:08:07,550 --> 00:08:15,370 Ejaaz: Okay, listen, as a professional Apple hater, I was super impressed by the engineering behind this. 136 00:08:15,470 --> 00:08:21,690 Ejaaz: I mean, what we're showing on the screen here is nothing short of genius, right? 137 00:08:21,850 --> 00:08:30,410 Ejaaz: So you've got the entire brain, body, limbs of a phone in the tiny little camera 138 00:08:30,410 --> 00:08:32,590 Ejaaz: component of the top section of your phone. 139 00:08:32,710 --> 00:08:36,390 Ejaaz: I would say that this is probably like, what, not more than 15% of the actual 140 00:08:36,390 --> 00:08:40,550 Ejaaz: phone body and the rest is just clean, smooth, slick glass, as you said. 141 00:08:40,930 --> 00:08:44,270 Ejaaz: And I kind of want to pick up on the point that you're making, 142 00:08:44,410 --> 00:08:49,010 Ejaaz: which is, I think, over decades since the mobile phone was created. 143 00:08:49,890 --> 00:08:54,110 Ejaaz: It's kind of been on a trend towards getting smaller, thinner, 144 00:08:54,550 --> 00:08:57,930 Ejaaz: right, being able to fit into your pocket, being able to kind of like slide 145 00:08:57,930 --> 00:08:59,970 Ejaaz: into your bag or handbag or whatever that might be. 146 00:09:00,450 --> 00:09:04,390 Ejaaz: And I think this is like the first major leap that we've seen in a while, 147 00:09:04,570 --> 00:09:07,510 Ejaaz: where we're kind of like taking a very aggressive move, right? 148 00:09:07,610 --> 00:09:11,450 Ejaaz: You mentioned folded phones, right? Samsung's been doing that for God knows how long. 149 00:09:12,070 --> 00:09:15,010 Ejaaz: But this is like, this feels like a net new thing. 150 00:09:15,150 --> 00:09:20,390 Ejaaz: It feels like, as this tweet says, practice for whatever future hardware comes next. 151 00:09:20,510 --> 00:09:24,170 Ejaaz: And you and I, Josh, have spoken about, or hypothesized rather, 152 00:09:24,410 --> 00:09:28,690 Ejaaz: about what the new AI consumer hardware device is going to look like. 153 00:09:28,690 --> 00:09:30,990 Ejaaz: Is it going to be a puck that sits in your pocket or on your table? 154 00:09:31,050 --> 00:09:31,890 Ejaaz: Is it going to be a necklace? 155 00:09:32,070 --> 00:09:35,610 Ejaaz: Is it going to be AirPods with cameras in it with sensors in it? 156 00:09:35,750 --> 00:09:38,750 Ejaaz: We don't know, or is it going to be glasses? We don't know exactly what it's 157 00:09:38,750 --> 00:09:42,550 Ejaaz: going to be. But I feel like this is kind of like a hint towards that future. 158 00:09:43,070 --> 00:09:46,930 Ejaaz: And my personal take is I love that it's small. I love that it's tiny. 159 00:09:47,090 --> 00:09:50,090 Ejaaz: And I love that it's going to be kind of like hidden in the background so that 160 00:09:50,090 --> 00:09:51,610 Ejaaz: I can just continue doing what I do. 161 00:09:51,930 --> 00:09:57,310 Ejaaz: Ironically, tech permeates so much of our life, but I kind of want a breather from it. 162 00:09:57,430 --> 00:10:02,470 Ejaaz: I kind of want it to be subtle in the background. And I love the engineering that went into this. 163 00:10:02,690 --> 00:10:06,630 Ejaaz: But like I said, I'm a professional Apple hater, Josh. 164 00:10:06,830 --> 00:10:10,510 Ejaaz: So I kind of want to bring up two images for you. And OK, I don't know, 165 00:10:10,610 --> 00:10:13,990 Ejaaz: just just get your take on this. Right. Does this look familiar to you, Josh? 166 00:10:14,390 --> 00:10:17,550 Josh: Yeah, that was actually one of my favorite phones. I had this in college. 167 00:10:17,730 --> 00:10:20,930 Josh: This was the iPhone 5S. Gorgeous, gorgeous device. Why? What's your point? 168 00:10:21,030 --> 00:10:21,870 Josh: What do you what do you want to say? 169 00:10:22,890 --> 00:10:27,970 Ejaaz: Listen, I'll just these little words here, you know, 33 percent lighter, 170 00:10:28,050 --> 00:10:32,110 Ejaaz: you know, I'm I just want to point out, but listen, what's better than a picture? 171 00:10:32,490 --> 00:10:35,490 Ejaaz: What's better than a picture is a video demo. Look at this. 172 00:10:35,610 --> 00:10:40,390 Ejaaz: Look at the iPhone 6, Josh, compared to your fancy Air device that's, 173 00:10:40,390 --> 00:10:43,710 Ejaaz: you know, whatever, half glass or blah, blah, blah. It's thinner. 174 00:10:43,930 --> 00:10:44,910 Ejaaz: It's sleeker. It's cooler. 175 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:50,560 Ejaaz: Obviously, I'm jesting here. The phone that we're talking about in question, 176 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:54,560 Ejaaz: the iPhone Air, is so much more functioning performance than these phones. 177 00:10:54,700 --> 00:10:58,760 Ejaaz: But I just want to point out, it's not the thinnest or smallest phone that Apple's ever created. 178 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:02,980 Ejaaz: So yeah, I just rest my case there. It is the thinnest. Oh, it is the thinnest. 179 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:06,060 Josh: Perhaps not the smallest. And yeah, I mean, to your point, the hardware they're 180 00:11:06,060 --> 00:11:09,440 Josh: packing into this thing, the capability of this phone is equivalent to 100 iPhone 181 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,020 Josh: 6s. I mean, this thing is a monster. 182 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:14,000 Josh: And it all fits very neatly in this tiny little package. So actually, 183 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,260 Josh: when you look at the array of compute, between these two phones. 184 00:11:16,780 --> 00:11:20,460 Josh: The iPhone 6 has this whole system on chip architecture that expands through 185 00:11:20,460 --> 00:11:24,000 Josh: the entire vertical length of the phone, and it expands horizontally at the 186 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,080 Josh: top and bottom, leaving a small rectangular section for the battery. 187 00:11:27,260 --> 00:11:30,100 Josh: This actually fits all of the compute, which is probably, I mean, 188 00:11:30,180 --> 00:11:33,200 Josh: I'm not even exaggerating, at least 50 times the processing power of an iPhone 189 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:37,360 Josh: 6 into a tiny plateau that is a fraction of the size of the iPhone 6. 190 00:11:37,500 --> 00:11:43,340 Josh: So, I mean, it's pretty, but this new phone is, it's running laps around the 191 00:11:43,340 --> 00:11:44,760 Josh: old iPhone 6 and the iPhone 5. 192 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:49,400 Ejaaz: So one thing I keep hearing about, Josh, is this new kind of venting architecture 193 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:52,500 Ejaaz: that comes either through the chip or the phone device itself. 194 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:54,460 Ejaaz: Can you tell me a bit more about that? 195 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,440 Josh: Okay. So before we do that, let's introduce the phone that it's involved in, 196 00:11:57,540 --> 00:12:01,840 Josh: which is actually the iPhone 17 Pro. This is the new flagship device. This is the new guy. 197 00:12:02,180 --> 00:12:07,220 Josh: And before we do anything, Ejaz, oh my God, I actually had a meltdown last night. 198 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:11,300 Josh: I have to confess to you and the listeners, I had a mental breakdown halfway through this 199 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,620 Josh: Announcement episode because i saw them unveil this phone 200 00:12:14,620 --> 00:12:17,640 Josh: and i saw it unveiled in three colorways none of 201 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:21,140 Josh: which are black and if you know me i 202 00:12:21,140 --> 00:12:23,960 Josh: have all black everything the blackest of 203 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:28,960 Josh: blacks for everything i own is is my default and for the and in the case of 204 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:32,820 Josh: apple actually black has been the default color of pro whenever there's a macbook 205 00:12:32,820 --> 00:12:37,260 Josh: pro they offer the black the apple watch ultra they offer the black the pro 206 00:12:37,260 --> 00:12:40,360 Josh: models always get black and for this time for some reason they wanted to go 207 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:41,880 Josh: with orange, navy, and silver. 208 00:12:42,060 --> 00:12:45,220 Josh: So I'm having an existential crisis, but that's not here nor there. 209 00:12:45,680 --> 00:12:48,980 Josh: Whoever did that, you should be fired. Anyways, let's get into what makes this so special. 210 00:12:49,140 --> 00:12:52,260 Josh: So one of the things you mentioned is the cooling, right? So the cooling is 211 00:12:52,260 --> 00:12:55,640 Josh: really, really interesting. This is something I found super fascinating. 212 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:59,460 Josh: It's called vapor chamber cooling. And basically the way vapor chamber cooling 213 00:12:59,460 --> 00:13:02,420 Josh: works is it has a small amount of liquid. 214 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:06,660 Josh: It's some sort of water that is tightly sealed inside of a metal ceramic packaging. 215 00:13:06,980 --> 00:13:09,700 Josh: And what it does is the water actually just kind 216 00:13:09,700 --> 00:13:12,980 Josh: of sits there and it's absorbed by this this porous 217 00:13:12,980 --> 00:13:15,840 Josh: thing that kind of holds it right near the processor so if you're imagining 218 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,640 Josh: kind of like a sponge in a water bottle is is 219 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:22,260 Josh: a good way that i could describe this and the sponge holds the water and as 220 00:13:22,260 --> 00:13:26,380 Josh: the chip heats up the sponge it kind of evaporates the water a little bit and 221 00:13:26,380 --> 00:13:30,720 Josh: because water particles have way more surface area than solid metal it allows 222 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:34,880 Josh: it to dissipate the heat quite a bit so as this water evaporates from your sponge 223 00:13:34,880 --> 00:13:38,020 Josh: in your bottle it moves to the far end of the bottle and it cools down. 224 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,840 Josh: So the further it gets away from the heat source, which in this case is the 225 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:42,500 Josh: chip, the cooler it gets. 226 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:46,560 Josh: And then when it cools down, it turns back into a liquid and it gets reabsorbed by the sponge. 227 00:13:46,680 --> 00:13:50,920 Josh: So it's this kind of closed circuit system made for cooling hot devices. 228 00:13:51,380 --> 00:13:54,420 Ejaaz: They've recreated the rain system in a phone. 229 00:13:54,780 --> 00:13:59,260 Josh: That's insane. So this is not novel technology, but it is novel in the sense 230 00:13:59,260 --> 00:14:03,580 Josh: that they were able to package this incredibly in a super small form factor 231 00:14:03,580 --> 00:14:06,380 Josh: and squeeze it into a phone without really increasing the thickness very much at all. 232 00:14:06,980 --> 00:14:10,520 Josh: And I mean, frequently, I have problems with overheating because I do a lot 233 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:12,800 Josh: of graphic intensive work on my phone. I do some video editing. 234 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:13,860 Josh: I do a lot of photo editing. 235 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:18,000 Josh: The phone frequently gets very, very hot and it overheats if I'm charging while I'm also working. 236 00:14:18,300 --> 00:14:19,640 Josh: They did two things to help with 237 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:22,160 Josh: thermal cooling here. One is that vapor chamber that I just described. 238 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:25,300 Josh: But the second one is actually moving away from titanium to aluminum, 239 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:29,040 Josh: which is interesting because, Ejaz, if you remember just two years ago with 240 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:32,540 Josh: the iPhone 15 Pro announcement, the leading headline for the phone was titanium. 241 00:14:32,940 --> 00:14:35,880 Josh: They were so proud of this new metal. It was very lightweight. 242 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:36,960 Josh: Weight. It was very Apple. 243 00:14:37,630 --> 00:14:42,030 Josh: Very difficult to work with. And it turns out, it actually just like sucks at 244 00:14:42,030 --> 00:14:46,150 Josh: thermal insulation and it is not as durable as aluminum and it's just expensive. 245 00:14:46,390 --> 00:14:48,470 Josh: And yeah, okay, it's a little light, but it's not that impressive. 246 00:14:48,610 --> 00:14:51,010 Josh: So what they did with this phone is they went back to aluminum. 247 00:14:51,450 --> 00:14:56,790 Josh: Aluminum, I believe, has either a six or a 10 times multiple in its ability to dissipate heat. 248 00:14:57,110 --> 00:15:01,630 Josh: So this combined with the vapor chamber will allow the phone to run hot for 249 00:15:01,630 --> 00:15:03,110 Josh: a very long time without actually getting hot. 250 00:15:03,310 --> 00:15:06,170 Josh: I think another thing that I noticed about this phone that we're kind of seeing 251 00:15:06,170 --> 00:15:09,930 Josh: in this little demo here, is you'll notice that it's two-tone on the back. 252 00:15:10,010 --> 00:15:13,850 Josh: So what they did here is they made a unibody aluminum casting. 253 00:15:13,910 --> 00:15:17,750 Josh: So it's actually one solid piece, the entire phone, instead of multiple pieces. 254 00:15:18,030 --> 00:15:21,990 Josh: And they placed this ceramic glass on the back to allow for wireless charging 255 00:15:21,990 --> 00:15:24,650 Josh: and wireless communication that wouldn't work for aluminum. 256 00:15:24,910 --> 00:15:27,630 Josh: So we're getting kind of the best of both worlds where we have aluminum, 257 00:15:27,630 --> 00:15:32,670 Josh: which is more durable, it's better heat resistance, but it's not titanium. 258 00:15:33,090 --> 00:15:37,410 Josh: And we also get the glass back. These were two interesting things did you have 259 00:15:37,410 --> 00:15:40,350 Josh: any other interesting things that were noteworthy to you about the flagship phone? 260 00:15:41,170 --> 00:15:45,430 Ejaaz: Well, interesting is questionable, but I kind of think it looks uglier than 261 00:15:45,430 --> 00:15:46,930 Ejaaz: the previous phones that they've launched. 262 00:15:47,110 --> 00:15:47,770 Josh: Don't love the design. 263 00:15:48,190 --> 00:15:52,690 Ejaaz: That might be a controversial take. I don't like the two-tonedness. 264 00:15:52,810 --> 00:15:54,430 Ejaaz: I kind of like hide that stuff away. 265 00:15:54,570 --> 00:15:57,170 Ejaaz: Like I like the wireless charging, but like hide it away maybe. 266 00:15:57,550 --> 00:16:00,330 Ejaaz: Also, orange is like such a bold color to go for. 267 00:16:00,450 --> 00:16:05,150 Ejaaz: But one of the main things that is ugly, but I know contributes quite well to 268 00:16:05,150 --> 00:16:10,990 Ejaaz: this phone's success, Josh, is that big camera hunk, which if I hold up my current 269 00:16:10,990 --> 00:16:15,030 Ejaaz: phone right now, has just kind of expanded across the top of the phone. 270 00:16:15,450 --> 00:16:19,990 Ejaaz: Tell me what I'm getting in exchange for that, because I'm expecting a sick camera. 271 00:16:20,490 --> 00:16:23,950 Josh: Yeah, this is the reason why I'm actually going to be upgrading because I love 272 00:16:23,950 --> 00:16:27,270 Josh: taking photos with my iPhone and I need the flagship camera. 273 00:16:27,470 --> 00:16:30,690 Josh: Otherwise, I would absolutely buy a iPhone Air with no questions asked. 274 00:16:31,130 --> 00:16:35,550 Josh: The cameras are better slightly, particularly with the telephoto and wide angle lens. 275 00:16:35,690 --> 00:16:40,470 Josh: Now, what's cool is it has 348 megapixel camera arrays, which is the same as Google now. 276 00:16:40,730 --> 00:16:44,610 Josh: And what that means is you're going to get really high quality on the wide angle lens in low light. 277 00:16:44,770 --> 00:16:46,910 Josh: You're going to get amazing quality, as you always do on the 1X lens. 278 00:16:46,910 --> 00:16:50,630 Josh: And for the telephoto lens, you actually get two lenses in one, which is pretty cool. 279 00:16:50,750 --> 00:16:53,290 Josh: So for the wide angle, you get the 0.5 and the macro. 280 00:16:53,470 --> 00:16:57,350 Josh: With the 1x zoom, you get 1x, 1.25 and 1.5. 281 00:16:57,690 --> 00:17:04,750 Josh: Now you get 2x and you get 4x and 8x optical zoom with digital zoom up to 40 times. 282 00:17:05,010 --> 00:17:08,510 Josh: So what this gives basically is you get another camera built into your phone. 283 00:17:08,670 --> 00:17:14,170 Josh: So in the previous iPhones, you get a 0.5, 1, 1.25, 1.5, 2 and 5. 284 00:17:14,170 --> 00:17:16,870 Josh: Now all those you keep but in 285 00:17:16,870 --> 00:17:19,590 Josh: addition you get a eight times telephoto lens which is 286 00:17:19,590 --> 00:17:22,630 Josh: pretty cool so you can reach out further you have better optical abilities 287 00:17:22,630 --> 00:17:25,590 Josh: in low light because the sensors are a bit larger they're a 288 00:17:25,590 --> 00:17:29,710 Josh: bit higher megapixel count and overall it's a solid upgrade there's a lot of 289 00:17:29,710 --> 00:17:32,890 Josh: pro features that are good they shoot in pro res it has really good color grading 290 00:17:32,890 --> 00:17:35,990 Josh: capabilities a lot of people aren't going to take advantage of that i think 291 00:17:35,990 --> 00:17:41,150 Josh: if you are going from a 16 pro to a 17 pro the advantage is marginal i think 292 00:17:41,150 --> 00:17:43,630 Josh: the big upgrade really is that optical zoom came out to eight times. 293 00:17:44,010 --> 00:17:46,750 Josh: But when we're speaking of cameras, there is something that I really want to 294 00:17:46,750 --> 00:17:49,710 Josh: mention because this to me feels like the most exciting upgrade in terms of 295 00:17:49,710 --> 00:17:51,630 Josh: cameras, and that's on the front of the iPhone. 296 00:17:51,830 --> 00:17:54,170 Josh: So the front of the iPhone got an upgrade in camera sensors. 297 00:17:54,330 --> 00:17:58,890 Josh: And what they did is actually changed the shape of the camera sensor from rectangular to square. 298 00:17:59,620 --> 00:18:03,220 Josh: Why is this important? Well, it is when you're holding a phone sideways, 299 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:07,480 Josh: you could picture kind of like a 16 by nine aspect ratio rectangular box. 300 00:18:07,580 --> 00:18:10,920 Josh: So that means it's seeing the world through basically what you're looking at 301 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,300 Josh: right now, which is a display, and it's showing it horizontally. 302 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:18,040 Josh: If you were to extend that screen upwards and turn it into a square, 303 00:18:18,220 --> 00:18:21,100 Josh: well, then it doesn't quite matter the orientation you're holding your phone 304 00:18:21,100 --> 00:18:26,120 Josh: at because the sensor array is the same orientation regardless of the way that you tilt your phone. 305 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,800 Josh: So if you hold your phone vertically, it's the same as holding it horizontally 306 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:31,940 Josh: because the sensor is a square. It's not a rectangle. 307 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:37,060 Josh: And this is a big unlock because it allows you to shoot horizontal content while 308 00:18:37,060 --> 00:18:38,360 Josh: holding the phone vertically. 309 00:18:38,940 --> 00:18:41,920 Josh: And I think, I mean, this is kind of a, just it's a cute thing for people who 310 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:44,020 Josh: like to take selfies or who like to take vlogs and videos. 311 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:47,560 Josh: But I did find this interesting for just consumer applications because you never 312 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,000 Josh: really have to turn your phone again to shoot anything forward facing. 313 00:18:50,420 --> 00:18:53,060 Josh: And what I love is they not only increased the resolution of the camera, 314 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,000 Josh: but they included stability in the front facing camera as well. 315 00:18:56,120 --> 00:18:59,700 Josh: So if you ever did want to record a video or take a selfie or whatever, 316 00:18:59,860 --> 00:19:03,580 Josh: it will not only be stable, but it can be captured while holding your phone vertically. 317 00:19:03,820 --> 00:19:06,300 Josh: So that was a nice, cute little feature. I'm like, okay, I like that. 318 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,600 Josh: I never have to turn my phone to take a wide angle selfie because actually here's 319 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:13,400 Josh: another instance where there's AI, it will detect where the people are in the 320 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,820 Josh: image and it will automatically create a wide angle version. 321 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:18,980 Josh: If it detects people are on the sides of you that don't quite fit in the frame. 322 00:19:19,260 --> 00:19:22,720 Josh: And this is also true in their FaceTime feature where it will track the location 323 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:26,240 Josh: of your head and kind of follow your head. So you don't really lose the framing. 324 00:19:26,780 --> 00:19:29,840 Josh: So I thought that was interesting in terms of camera upgrades for the phone. 325 00:19:30,100 --> 00:19:33,720 Josh: And I mean, not enough really to get someone to upgrade, but just fun upgrades 326 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,280 Josh: that you would kind of expect from a new flagship device like this. 327 00:19:36,860 --> 00:19:41,800 Ejaaz: Yeah. I mean, that's what I was about to say. I love the engineering feats that 328 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:45,180 Ejaaz: they've achieved with this new phone, but I don't think it's good enough to 329 00:19:45,180 --> 00:19:48,760 Ejaaz: convince me at least to upgrade or to buy a new phone. 330 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,800 Ejaaz: What I'm noticing here, Josh, and I'm curious if you think otherwise, 331 00:19:52,800 --> 00:20:00,120 Ejaaz: in this flagship new phone, iPhone 17 Pro, it is a photographer's dream pretty 332 00:20:00,120 --> 00:20:01,880 Ejaaz: much, right? It's fully functional. 333 00:20:02,220 --> 00:20:07,080 Ejaaz: 48 megapixels is insane. I kind of think about the first cell phone I had and 334 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:12,020 Ejaaz: the camera that I had on that looked like a potato basically and it was so chunky and large. 335 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:16,740 Ejaaz: This is probably the best engineered mobile phone that is out there today. 336 00:20:16,940 --> 00:20:18,100 Ejaaz: And I think that is super cool. 337 00:20:18,460 --> 00:20:22,380 Ejaaz: And like you said, a lot of people who take selfies, which is a ton of people 338 00:20:22,380 --> 00:20:25,640 Ejaaz: today, right, will benefit from this quite a bit. 339 00:20:25,860 --> 00:20:28,260 Ejaaz: And it's performant as well for the price that you're paying. 340 00:20:28,360 --> 00:20:32,260 Ejaaz: I think there's this adage of like Apple, like increasing the prices of all 341 00:20:32,260 --> 00:20:35,200 Ejaaz: the devices, just kind of like inanely all the time. 342 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:39,720 Ejaaz: But you're kind of getting bang for your buck here, given that what this phone 343 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:41,800 Ejaaz: does, kind of stepping back for a second. 344 00:20:42,510 --> 00:20:46,290 Ejaaz: I'm kind of maybe putting my AI hat back on in a way. 345 00:20:46,710 --> 00:20:51,270 Ejaaz: I feel like they are kind of running out of ideas here, right? 346 00:20:51,590 --> 00:21:00,130 Ejaaz: I would love to see some kind of Steve Jobs-esque type device creation or design applicability. 347 00:21:00,150 --> 00:21:05,190 Ejaaz: And that could come either at the hardware level or that could come at the app design layer, right? 348 00:21:05,250 --> 00:21:09,650 Ejaaz: Like we saw Google kind of like release a similar type of phone with 48 megapixels 349 00:21:09,650 --> 00:21:14,170 Ejaaz: as well, as you said, but they had 20 different AI apps that kind of came on top of this. 350 00:21:14,730 --> 00:21:18,130 Ejaaz: And not to make this all about like an AI thing, but I would love to see some 351 00:21:18,130 --> 00:21:21,270 Ejaaz: of the ingenuity that they're spending and effort and money that they're spending 352 00:21:21,270 --> 00:21:25,050 Ejaaz: on the hardware design to apply to the app layer as well. 353 00:21:25,170 --> 00:21:28,230 Ejaaz: Otherwise, I think we're just going to end up plateauing, which I think we've 354 00:21:28,230 --> 00:21:30,470 Ejaaz: kind of been doing over the last couple of years. I don't know, what do you think? 355 00:21:30,550 --> 00:21:33,810 Josh: Yeah, there's definitely, there's a discrepancy at Apple currently between the 356 00:21:33,810 --> 00:21:34,730 Josh: software and hardware stack. 357 00:21:34,930 --> 00:21:40,150 Josh: I think the iPhone Air is a very respectable and really wonderful device. 358 00:21:40,150 --> 00:21:44,870 Josh: It's something that I would rarely say that Steve would probably appreciate 359 00:21:44,870 --> 00:21:47,610 Josh: this, but it really is. It's a remarkable feat of engineering and it's beautiful. 360 00:21:47,850 --> 00:21:50,590 Josh: And I think the last time we really saw this was actually for the chips, 361 00:21:50,990 --> 00:21:55,290 Josh: the M series chips, which really created a huge unlock in terms of what types 362 00:21:55,290 --> 00:21:59,590 Josh: of devices were able to be made with Apple. So Apple Silicon as a technology is remarkable. 363 00:22:00,170 --> 00:22:02,990 Josh: On the topic of Silicon, there is actually one other thing that I wanted to 364 00:22:02,990 --> 00:22:05,970 Josh: mention to you, EJS, which I thought was interesting with the new Pro phone. 365 00:22:06,170 --> 00:22:10,710 Josh: And that's their new A19 Pro chip. And what I heard, they snuck this in there 366 00:22:10,710 --> 00:22:15,670 Josh: and it said that it features these new neural accelerators, what they call the neural engine. 367 00:22:15,890 --> 00:22:17,890 Josh: And it's a series of cores inside 368 00:22:17,890 --> 00:22:22,510 Josh: of this new processor that is built specifically for handling AI tasks. 369 00:22:22,690 --> 00:22:27,050 Josh: Now, they mentioned that in passing. They didn't mention any uses of these new 370 00:22:27,050 --> 00:22:30,930 Josh: neural cores, but they did mention that they're investing a lot of energy and, 371 00:22:30,970 --> 00:22:34,450 Josh: I mean, space on this tiny little chip in these neural engines, 372 00:22:34,590 --> 00:22:36,190 Josh: which are optimized for AI. 373 00:22:36,370 --> 00:22:39,470 Josh: So you could kind of think of it, if you have like a mental model to think of 374 00:22:39,470 --> 00:22:42,890 Josh: these, we have the CPUs, which is, you can think of it maybe like a chef. 375 00:22:43,010 --> 00:22:46,550 Josh: The CPU is like the master chef. It does everything. It kind of can... 376 00:22:47,120 --> 00:22:49,820 Josh: Attack any problem you have and then the gpu is kind of 377 00:22:49,820 --> 00:22:52,920 Josh: like a line of sous chefs right like they're all kind of there to help that 378 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,640 Josh: cpu do a lot of the hard compute so they'll do the prep work they'll chop up 379 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,500 Josh: the vegetables and they'll hand it off to the cpu and it'll take care of everything 380 00:22:58,500 --> 00:23:01,200 Josh: and then you can imagine the neural engine kind of like like a 381 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,200 Josh: robotic slicer where it's really good at 382 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,280 Josh: one thing so those vegetables that i mentioned it'll just slice slice 383 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,140 Josh: slice slice and it's amazing at that and that's what the neural core 384 00:23:10,140 --> 00:23:13,120 Josh: is for the a19 pro chip so it's super efficient 385 00:23:13,120 --> 00:23:16,160 Josh: because it uses this on-device sram it's 386 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:20,840 Josh: which is not slow but it's it's very fast and it's very power efficient and 387 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:24,200 Josh: they use lower precision math so i just we talk about quantized models sometimes 388 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:28,880 Josh: here um where they're kind of models that they lower the their lower precision 389 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:33,180 Josh: math which is kind of like 8-bit or 16-bit meaning they don't go all the way 390 00:23:33,180 --> 00:23:35,900 Josh: but they get most of the efficiency at a much smaller 391 00:23:35,900 --> 00:23:37,120 Ejaaz: Intelligence of the models. 392 00:23:37,120 --> 00:23:40,720 Josh: Exactly and that's what they've kind of done here with these chips where they 393 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:44,440 Josh: use 8-bit, 16-bit, low precision math in order to do a lot more computing. 394 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:49,180 Josh: That's maybe 80% as good if they used a lot more data, but also significantly more efficient. 395 00:23:49,340 --> 00:23:53,060 Josh: So they have now this infrastructure on device using these neural engines that 396 00:23:53,060 --> 00:23:56,760 Josh: is significantly better than it was last year and like 10 times better than 397 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,060 Josh: it was two years ago with nothing to run on it. 398 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,000 Josh: And the fact that they're investing so much, I mean, they kind of have to, 399 00:24:02,140 --> 00:24:05,500 Josh: but it leads me to wonder what type of AI are they planning to run on these 400 00:24:05,500 --> 00:24:08,980 Josh: devices? because now they're juiced up and these phones can run local inference 401 00:24:08,980 --> 00:24:12,920 Josh: like really freaking good, but they have no local inference currently to run. 402 00:24:13,060 --> 00:24:15,160 Josh: So it leaves me with the question, who's going to fill that slot? 403 00:24:15,300 --> 00:24:20,100 Josh: Because it's become apparent to me that Apple is not the company that is likely going to do it. 404 00:24:20,180 --> 00:24:22,860 Josh: They're probably going to outsource this to someone or maybe we'll get a miracle 405 00:24:22,860 --> 00:24:25,460 Josh: at WWDC next year. But that is one thing I want to mention. 406 00:24:25,620 --> 00:24:29,140 Ejaaz: It's just the- Yeah, I don't know if I agree with you on that, Josh. 407 00:24:29,360 --> 00:24:35,700 Ejaaz: So in my Moonboy thesis, which is tucked away in a dusty closet somewhere, 408 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:37,960 Ejaaz: for Apple to win this AI race, 409 00:24:38,120 --> 00:24:43,220 Ejaaz: I think they're going to come in hard right at the end by having the most hyper-performant 410 00:24:43,220 --> 00:24:46,920 Ejaaz: small device that fits into your hand or on your head or whatever it might look 411 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:52,160 Ejaaz: like and runs super-performant models locally, privately. 412 00:24:52,180 --> 00:24:53,880 Josh: I pray that you're right. 413 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:59,460 Ejaaz: And I think they might pull it off, dude, because I, again, I want to hate on 414 00:24:59,460 --> 00:25:04,880 Ejaaz: them, but they have so much cash that an outlandish acquisition isn't beneath 415 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,560 Ejaaz: them or isn't going to be surprising, I would say. 416 00:25:07,780 --> 00:25:10,720 Ejaaz: I just think they're waiting patiently to see what kind of hardware companies 417 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:15,840 Ejaaz: kind of pop up with the actual gizmo or the architecture that they need or the 418 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:17,060 Ejaaz: model that they require. 419 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,340 Ejaaz: And then they're just going to come in and swoop in and get them. 420 00:25:20,460 --> 00:25:23,400 Josh: I hope they do. I really hope you're right because they have all the infrastructure 421 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,800 Josh: now built to run local inference on these devices. 422 00:25:26,060 --> 00:25:30,900 Josh: And like we mentioned, this is significant because the price per token drops down to zero dollars. 423 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,900 Josh: When you can run inference locally on a phone, the cost to serve that AI to 424 00:25:34,900 --> 00:25:38,200 Josh: a consumer drops to zero because you don't have to interface with any cloud server. 425 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,980 Josh: So it's a really big deal in terms of cost efficiency. 426 00:25:41,260 --> 00:25:44,620 Josh: And like we always talk about with Jevin's Paradox, the more tokens you have, 427 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,140 Josh: the more tokens we will generate. 428 00:25:46,300 --> 00:25:50,300 Josh: And I think it's a win-win for everyone. If Apple can figure this the F out, I am praying for you. 429 00:25:50,420 --> 00:25:54,040 Josh: Please do it you have it now in the chip make something happen deliver us some 430 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,980 Josh: awesome ai hardware that can run locally on our phone i think for me it was 431 00:25:56,980 --> 00:26:00,720 Josh: a great upgrade this is what i'll be buying uh you just do you have any are 432 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,080 Josh: you going to be buying anything if you do what are you picking 433 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:07,880 Ejaaz: So i'm tempted to go for the air just because it looks so cool i want to kind 434 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,480 Ejaaz: of like see what that device looks like i want to feel it in my hands like it 435 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,980 Ejaaz: being kind of top heavy i'm just kind of like how is that going to feel i just 436 00:26:14,980 --> 00:26:18,380 Ejaaz: think it's a really cool piece of engineering and I kind of want to own the 437 00:26:18,380 --> 00:26:20,320 Ejaaz: first type of device that's like that. 438 00:26:20,740 --> 00:26:23,720 Ejaaz: Oh, and I'm going to get the AirPods, the AirPods 3 because I want to be able 439 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:28,600 Ejaaz: to communicate with my Uber drivers and the bodega guys because they always 440 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,100 Ejaaz: crack jokes and I have no idea what they're saying. 441 00:26:30,180 --> 00:26:32,980 Ejaaz: Are they making fun of me or are they laughing with me? I have no idea. 442 00:26:33,630 --> 00:26:36,850 Josh: Nice. Yeah, I want the AirPods just because they're a remarkable little pocket 443 00:26:36,850 --> 00:26:39,450 Josh: device that I take everywhere. And two times the active noise cancellation. 444 00:26:39,690 --> 00:26:41,410 Josh: That's all I want. Just block more of the world. 445 00:26:42,690 --> 00:26:46,270 Josh: That's great. I think, like, great job. I will be a purchaser. 446 00:26:46,550 --> 00:26:48,930 Josh: So outside of the phones, there were a few other hardware announcements. 447 00:26:49,070 --> 00:26:51,150 Josh: I mean, we did have the iPhone 17, which we didn't talk about. 448 00:26:51,370 --> 00:26:54,630 Josh: It's another wonderful phone. They upgraded the display to 120 hertz, 449 00:26:55,010 --> 00:26:56,290 Josh: which is a really nice refresh rate. 450 00:26:56,510 --> 00:26:59,050 Josh: It's a great phone if you're on a budget and you want to buy something that's 451 00:26:59,050 --> 00:26:59,710 Josh: a little less expensive. 452 00:27:00,090 --> 00:27:02,870 Josh: Amazing device. in terms of watches they were 453 00:27:02,870 --> 00:27:05,770 Josh: the most disappointing watch upgrades to date which really hurts my 454 00:27:05,770 --> 00:27:08,810 Josh: soul because i have none on my wrist and i was hoping to get one and they 455 00:27:08,810 --> 00:27:11,670 Josh: cannot convince me to shell out eight hundred dollars for this 456 00:27:11,670 --> 00:27:16,230 Josh: behemoth of an apple watch ultra what they did with the apple watch ultra is 457 00:27:16,230 --> 00:27:20,330 Josh: they extended the displays slightly they added the battery life a little bit 458 00:27:20,330 --> 00:27:24,930 Josh: better they added i believe they added a 5g chip that has um direct to cell 459 00:27:24,930 --> 00:27:29,590 Josh: connectivity also noted if you listen to our last episode about starlink this 460 00:27:29,590 --> 00:27:31,650 Josh: device now will work with Starlink satellites, 461 00:27:31,810 --> 00:27:36,230 Josh: where if you're in the middle of nowhere and you have an Apple Watch 11 or Apple Watch Ultra, 462 00:27:36,590 --> 00:27:40,030 Josh: you can actually get data right to your wrist from anywhere in the world. 463 00:27:40,130 --> 00:27:42,010 Josh: So that's a pretty interesting thing that these watches now enable. 464 00:27:42,150 --> 00:27:45,010 Josh: It's been there for a little while, but the chip has just been improved a little bit. 465 00:27:45,310 --> 00:27:48,730 Josh: I mean, the Apple Watch Series 11, this is actually a devastating upgrade. 466 00:27:48,890 --> 00:27:52,730 Josh: They did not even upgrade the chip this year at EJS. It is just the same exact 467 00:27:52,730 --> 00:27:55,670 Josh: hardware with a slightly more scratch-resistant screen. 468 00:27:55,950 --> 00:27:59,690 Josh: So now your screen is now twice as scratch-resistant as last year, 469 00:27:59,690 --> 00:28:02,370 Josh: which is the most underwhelming Apple Watch upgrade to date. 470 00:28:02,510 --> 00:28:03,990 Josh: They have, um, hypertension, 471 00:28:05,130 --> 00:28:08,310 Josh: Which seems interesting. I think it remains to be seen if it's actually accurate. 472 00:28:08,490 --> 00:28:12,370 Josh: They included sleep scores to compete with companies like Whoop, Aura, and Aidsleep. 473 00:28:12,650 --> 00:28:15,650 Josh: And I think that's kind of interesting to gamify sleep. I would like to see 474 00:28:15,650 --> 00:28:17,270 Josh: them move more into that space. 475 00:28:17,330 --> 00:28:20,250 Josh: But that's pretty much everything they announced last night. 476 00:28:20,310 --> 00:28:21,250 Josh: They had some fun accessories. 477 00:28:21,430 --> 00:28:26,310 Josh: They had a battery pack for the iPhone Air because the battery is a little smaller, so it extends it. 478 00:28:26,530 --> 00:28:30,790 Josh: They added a like side leash to clamp onto your phone and walk around as a fashion 479 00:28:30,790 --> 00:28:32,350 Josh: accessory. But I think that's pretty much it. 480 00:28:32,510 --> 00:28:36,090 Josh: In terms of AI, to recap, I think live translation It's been around, 481 00:28:36,270 --> 00:28:38,210 Josh: but it's Apple-fied. It's cool. We like that. 482 00:28:38,610 --> 00:28:43,250 Josh: They added a ton of neural cores to the new phone with no real use of them yet. 483 00:28:43,250 --> 00:28:45,010 Josh: So hopefully we'll get a use case soon. 484 00:28:45,230 --> 00:28:48,950 Josh: And the new hardware, pretty good. I mean, I'm excited to get a new phone with 485 00:28:48,950 --> 00:28:52,530 Josh: the new cameras, the new vertical, the square sensing camera on the front. 486 00:28:52,850 --> 00:28:56,810 Josh: And then I think the iPhone Air, it's a lovely phone. It's a gorgeous phone. 487 00:28:56,930 --> 00:29:00,210 Josh: And I loved it. And I think if no one's even interested, just go watch the release 488 00:29:00,210 --> 00:29:01,710 Josh: video because they did a really great job. 489 00:29:01,830 --> 00:29:06,090 Josh: It's just a really cool feat of engineering that I think is a testament to where will we be heading? 490 00:29:06,310 --> 00:29:10,770 Josh: And it's a dry run for manufacturers to actually figure it out and create smaller 491 00:29:10,770 --> 00:29:12,590 Josh: devices. I doubt we'll get an iPhone Air 2. 492 00:29:12,730 --> 00:29:16,450 Josh: It's probably just a transitionary piece to get the manufacturing up to speed. 493 00:29:16,530 --> 00:29:18,790 Josh: But I think that covers it. That is the Apple event. 494 00:29:18,950 --> 00:29:22,830 Josh: It was a big event that was slightly underwhelming on the AI front. 495 00:29:23,190 --> 00:29:28,570 Josh: But again, it's Apple. We will be patient. We will be suckers in their closed 496 00:29:28,570 --> 00:29:30,790 Josh: wall ecosystem for at least one more year. 497 00:29:31,430 --> 00:29:36,010 Josh: And I think that's a wrap. So, I mean, thank you guys for watching. 498 00:29:36,170 --> 00:29:38,150 Josh: I hope you enjoyed. I am curious. 499 00:29:38,450 --> 00:29:40,970 Josh: I would actually love, I want the comment section for this one, 500 00:29:40,990 --> 00:29:42,350 Josh: if we could just chat about the phones. 501 00:29:42,670 --> 00:29:45,290 Josh: Are you going to get one? If so, what are you going to get? If so, 502 00:29:45,370 --> 00:29:48,530 Josh: what color are you going to get? I have no idea what color iPhone 17 Pro I'm 503 00:29:48,530 --> 00:29:50,270 Josh: going to get because there's no black and I'm devastated. 504 00:29:51,230 --> 00:29:54,410 Josh: So this is a serious point of contention in my life. Ejaz, what would you pick 505 00:29:54,410 --> 00:29:58,010 Josh: if you had to pick a color, the navy, orange, or silver? 506 00:29:58,650 --> 00:30:01,510 Josh: I think it's probably going to be navy. It's so lame. And you can't even cover 507 00:30:01,510 --> 00:30:04,310 Josh: the back because the freaking camera array is so big. 508 00:30:04,490 --> 00:30:08,710 Ejaaz: It's not even matte. Give me a matte option at least. Come on. Brutal. 509 00:30:09,070 --> 00:30:12,190 Josh: Brutal. Okay, but that's the event. I hope everyone enjoyed. 510 00:30:12,330 --> 00:30:15,570 Josh: Let us know what your take. Are you going to be upgrading, downgrading, 511 00:30:15,970 --> 00:30:20,870 Josh: leaving the ecosystem happy, sad, upset that AI doesn't exist on this freaking 512 00:30:20,870 --> 00:30:22,990 Josh: ecosystem, even though they're the most valuable company in the world, 513 00:30:23,070 --> 00:30:24,710 Josh: but whatever, whatever it may be. 514 00:30:25,150 --> 00:30:29,430 Josh: But I mean, EJs will probably get in the iPhone Air on 17 Pro Gang by next Friday. 515 00:30:29,430 --> 00:30:32,110 Josh: We should have them in our pockets. So maybe we could chat a little bit more then. 516 00:30:32,330 --> 00:30:35,190 Josh: But that is a wrap. Thank you so much for watching. If you have a friend that 517 00:30:35,190 --> 00:30:38,410 Josh: is also interested in this technology who didn't know about vapor chambers or 518 00:30:38,410 --> 00:30:41,290 Josh: who didn't know about neural engine cores, maybe you learned something. 519 00:30:41,490 --> 00:30:43,770 Josh: Share it with them. Let them know about it. It's pretty interesting. 520 00:30:43,930 --> 00:30:44,710 Josh: I think it's pretty cool. 521 00:30:45,090 --> 00:30:48,370 Josh: And yeah, that's a wrap for this episode. So thank you guys so much for watching. 522 00:30:48,550 --> 00:30:51,150 Josh: I really appreciate it. Don't forget, like, subscribe, all the good things. 523 00:30:51,250 --> 00:30:53,810 Josh: And we will see you guys in the next episode.