When They Were Making It

This is Part 2 of our two-part series on Charlie Chaplin.

At the height of his silent-film power, Charlie Chaplin was one of the most famous and successful people in the world. He owned his studio, controlled his work, and had transformed the Tramp into a global icon.

But the life behind the screen was becoming impossible to keep private.

Part 2 of our Charlie Chaplin series follows Chaplin through the collapse of his marriage to Lita Grey, the devastating divorce scandal that threatened his fortune, studio and reputation, and the making of The Circus. It follows his refusal to let the Tramp speak in an industry transformed by sound — and the extraordinary successes of City Lights and Modern Times.

Then comes The Great Dictator: Chaplin's first full talking picture, his furious satire of Adolf Hitler, and the film that pushed him into an increasingly public political life. As the war ends and the Cold War begins, Chaplin finds himself under growing scrutiny for his support of the Soviet Union, his refusal to become an American citizen, and the scandals that have long followed him.

The episode traces the Joan Barry case, Monsieur Verdoux, the campaign to drive Chaplin from America, and his departure for Europe in 1952 — a journey that became an exile. It also follows his final films, Hollywood's eventual welcome home, and the long reassessment of an artist whose work helped define cinema itself.

This is the story of Chaplin's long, complicated final act: a filmmaker celebrated as a genius, condemned as an outsider, and forced to reckon with the distance between the beloved Tramp and the powerful man who created him.

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When They Were Making It is written, produced, and hosted by Patrick Rankin. Original artwork by Simone Beech and original music by Lionel Ziblat.

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Creators and Guests

Host
Patrick Rankin
Creator and host of When They Were Making It, a narrative documentary podcast exploring classic Hollywood — from the silent era through the early 1960s.

What is When They Were Making It?

The real human stories behind classic Hollywood's greatest films and legends.

Marilyn Monroe. Casablanca. Audrey Hepburn. The Wizard of Oz. Charlie Chaplin. Breakfast at Tiffany's. Alfred Hitchcock. Sunset Boulevard.

What do they all have in common?

They had to make it first.

Each week, we go beyond the legend to explore classic Hollywood's biggest icons and most beloved films.

Not the myths. Not the takedowns. The whole human story.

From the silent era to the early 1960s — the people, the films, and the impossible work of becoming a legend.

WTWMI is written, produced, and hosted by Patrick Rankin. Original artwork by Simone Beech and original music by Lionel Ziblat.

A new chapter every Tuesday. Follow wherever you get your podcasts.