I Shouldn't Say This, But...

In this week’s episode, I speak to the brilliant Rachel Carrell, founder of Koru Kids. We have a really candid conversation about the realities of living with chronic pain and the desire people have to hide their struggles.
We also dive into Rachel’s fantastic business, looking at childcare as a people issue, not just a women’s issue, in addition to the importance of setting boundaries when working on something you’re passionate about.

What is I Shouldn't Say This, But...?


Being a leader can be genuinely lonely. I Shouldn't Say This, But… exists because of that.

Hosted by Katy Leeson, former MD of Social Chain, now founder of Courageous, this is the podcast for leaders and founders who want the conversations they can't seem to have anywhere else. The real ones. About doubt, people, culture, hard decisions, and what building something actually costs you.

No performance. No pretending. Just honest conversations that make you feel less alone, and give you something real to take back into your business.