1 00:00:00,101 --> 00:00:02,101 They made us too smart, too quick, 2 00:00:02,101 --> 00:00:04,721 and too many. Welcome to Primary Technology, 3 00:00:04,721 --> 00:00:06,141 the show about the tech news that matters. 4 00:00:06,141 --> 00:00:10,621 Google revealed a bunch of features coming to Android 17 and new hardware, 5 00:00:10,621 --> 00:00:15,381 a Google Book is coming. Alexa is coming to Amazon to replace Rufus AI. 6 00:00:15,381 --> 00:00:17,801 Meta made some interesting features this week, 7 00:00:17,801 --> 00:00:19,901 both in Instagram and in Meta AI Chat. 8 00:00:19,901 --> 00:00:21,801 Anthropic is targeting small businesses. 9 00:00:21,801 --> 00:00:26,041 The iPhone 17 is super popular and education discounts are no longer 10 00:00:26,041 --> 00:00:27,701 an honor system on Apple. 11 00:00:27,970 --> 00:00:29,714 This episode is brought to you by Granola, 12 00:00:29,714 --> 00:00:32,746 Claude, Nordlayer, and you, the members who support us directly. 13 00:00:32,746 --> 00:00:34,537 I'm one of your hosts, Stephen Robles, 14 00:00:34,537 --> 00:00:37,738 joined by developer with an app in the store, 15 00:00:37,738 --> 00:00:39,309 Jason Aten. How's it going? 16 00:00:38,951 --> 00:00:39,951 I know 17 00:00:39,611 --> 00:00:43,991 the Mac app got released like hours after we recorded last week and I've never been 18 00:00:43,991 --> 00:00:45,591 more mad about anything in my life. 19 00:00:45,553 --> 00:00:46,553 But now it's out there. 20 00:00:45,591 --> 00:00:48,991 It is. I said, should I wait? 21 00:00:48,991 --> 00:00:50,011 And should I just, and I'm like, 22 00:00:50,011 --> 00:00:51,751 no, I'm not waiting. It's going out right now. 23 00:00:51,141 --> 00:00:54,451 No, don't wait. That's it. 24 00:00:51,751 --> 00:00:53,831 Kicking it out the door, fly a little bird, 25 00:00:53,831 --> 00:00:54,831 fly. 26 00:00:54,452 --> 00:00:57,604 Fly little bird, we're going to talk about you in a second because it's also 27 00:00:57,604 --> 00:01:00,475 available on the iPhone and the iPad. 28 00:00:59,430 --> 00:01:00,430 It is. 29 00:01:00,475 --> 00:01:02,045 And so we'll talk about that in a second. 30 00:01:02,045 --> 00:01:04,086 But a couple of five star review shout outs. 31 00:01:04,086 --> 00:01:06,717 Thanks. Podcast 728 from the USA. 32 00:01:06,717 --> 00:01:08,828 Yes, has there ever been a five star review that has stuck out? 33 00:01:08,828 --> 00:01:10,789 This one did because it was the first one this week. 34 00:01:10,789 --> 00:01:17,242 So thank you. Also caseless. His ESR case broke and we've been going caseless. 35 00:01:17,242 --> 00:01:19,543 Are you caseless with the 17 Pro Max? 36 00:01:19,543 --> 00:01:20,543 No, you have a case. 37 00:01:19,975 --> 00:01:20,975 No, I have 38 00:01:20,535 --> 00:01:22,655 a Balroy case on it right now. 39 00:01:22,151 --> 00:01:23,411 You still rocking the Bellroy case? 40 00:01:22,655 --> 00:01:26,475 When I sometimes use the Nomad one. 41 00:01:23,411 --> 00:01:27,131 Were you a little choked up about my question about the case? 42 00:01:26,475 --> 00:01:30,670 No, I'm I had to take a deep breath. 43 00:01:27,131 --> 00:01:28,131 You sounded a little choked up. 44 00:01:27,991 --> 00:01:29,446 Got emotional. 45 00:01:30,780 --> 00:01:32,046 So don't know why that was funny to me. 46 00:01:32,046 --> 00:01:34,147 So wait, Bellroy. Bellroy Lerner the Case. 47 00:01:33,503 --> 00:01:34,503 I have a Balroy 48 00:01:34,313 --> 00:01:37,916 case and then I also have a Nomad case that I like but the Nomad one which 49 00:01:37,916 --> 00:01:43,509 is good it it ~ gets a little roughed up which is good I mean that's fine 50 00:01:41,850 --> 00:01:44,472 It does, yeah, yeah, It's patina. 51 00:01:43,509 --> 00:01:44,740 it just looks really nice but 52 00:01:45,573 --> 00:01:48,796 I'll say this is the first iPhone that I've gone caseless with, 53 00:01:48,796 --> 00:01:50,537 but then I went with the Moft. 54 00:01:50,537 --> 00:01:51,878 They sponsored a video months ago, 55 00:01:51,878 --> 00:01:53,680 but I actually like it. This is the Moft, 56 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:57,363 like, MagSafe wallet with FindMy. 57 00:01:57,363 --> 00:02:00,005 So this thing has FindMy, and because it's, 58 00:02:00,005 --> 00:02:02,487 you know, it's a big phone, the 17 Pro Max, 59 00:02:02,487 --> 00:02:04,029 I can use it as a little grip thing, 60 00:02:04,029 --> 00:02:06,050 and it's a little stand, and I like it. 61 00:02:06,050 --> 00:02:09,433 So no case for me, but then MagSafe wallet on the back. 62 00:02:08,988 --> 00:02:09,988 So quick check, 63 00:02:09,433 --> 00:02:10,433 Yeah. 64 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:17,077 I typically will get a new phone and generally before the end of the first day, 65 00:02:17,077 --> 00:02:20,211 it's got scratches on it like every like all the time, 66 00:02:20,211 --> 00:02:25,697 like no matter what the 16 pro like just scratched to be Jesus like constantly like 67 00:02:20,572 --> 00:02:23,281 Really? That fast? 68 00:02:25,697 --> 00:02:29,552 I don't even understand why 17 pro not a single scratch. 69 00:02:30,074 --> 00:02:31,895 Okay, well here's the thing. Here's the check-in. 70 00:02:31,895 --> 00:02:35,038 I have dropped mine a couple times. 71 00:02:35,038 --> 00:02:40,303 Never on cement, but I've dropped it on like hardwood floor. 72 00:02:40,303 --> 00:02:43,705 I dropped it and it hit like a metal thing. 73 00:02:43,705 --> 00:02:46,898 The frame of this iPhone 17 Pro Max, 74 00:02:46,898 --> 00:02:49,430 the back and the sides, rock solid. 75 00:02:49,430 --> 00:02:52,463 No dents, nothing. It's great. 76 00:02:52,463 --> 00:02:54,975 And I did drop it pretty hard a couple times. 77 00:02:54,975 --> 00:02:57,747 There are a couple tiny, not tiny, 78 00:02:57,747 --> 00:02:58,747 you'll never see it on camera. 79 00:02:59,186 --> 00:03:03,272 tiny scratches in this corner here of the glass, 80 00:03:03,272 --> 00:03:04,944 but that's it. And it, yeah. 81 00:03:05,286 --> 00:03:08,148 But I'm not so in the past when I say I scratch it up, 82 00:03:08,148 --> 00:03:12,291 I almost never drop my phone like I almost never do. 83 00:03:12,291 --> 00:03:14,783 It sometimes falls off the arm of the chair onto the wood floor, 84 00:03:14,783 --> 00:03:17,705 but it's fine. Like that's not iPhones have been able to handle that for 85 00:03:17,705 --> 00:03:20,226 a very long time. And concrete is the enemy here. 86 00:03:18,298 --> 00:03:20,814 Yeah, that's right. 87 00:03:20,226 --> 00:03:23,238 Right. Concrete. So just avoid concrete. 88 00:03:23,238 --> 00:03:26,931 Period. You're good. But just in general use, 89 00:03:24,124 --> 00:03:25,124 That's it. 90 00:03:26,931 --> 00:03:28,472 like inside out of your pocket, 91 00:03:28,472 --> 00:03:31,094 like all that kind of stuff, it would just get scratched to heck. 92 00:03:31,094 --> 00:03:34,436 And it hasn't anymore. I feel like whatever invincible ceramic 93 00:03:34,812 --> 00:03:37,531 duo shield plus max they've put on these things. 94 00:03:35,098 --> 00:03:38,142 Yeah. The ultra. Yeah. 95 00:03:37,531 --> 00:03:39,397 They finally figured it out, Steven. 96 00:03:39,704 --> 00:03:43,448 I think I think they did. My scratches I think came I did drop it on pavers 97 00:03:44,090 --> 00:03:46,222 one time and I think that was the time it scratched a little bit. 98 00:03:46,222 --> 00:03:47,222 But honestly like 99 00:03:46,416 --> 00:03:47,581 It's just segmented 100 00:03:47,581 --> 00:03:48,581 concrete, Stephen. 101 00:03:49,067 --> 00:03:51,848 Correct and the scratch Listen, 102 00:03:51,848 --> 00:03:54,068 I've typically been one in the past where if I have a tiny scratch on 103 00:03:54,068 --> 00:03:56,909 my screen I have to figure out how to like finagle the apple care 104 00:03:56,909 --> 00:04:00,540 to get a replacement because it'll bother me and I've been I've been okay I've been 105 00:04:00,540 --> 00:04:05,119 living with it and Anyway, it's not bad That's right 106 00:04:02,972 --> 00:04:06,376 Then you just drop it again with a hammer. 107 00:04:05,119 --> 00:04:11,664 You can't tell you can't say that can't say that Listen, 108 00:04:08,754 --> 00:04:10,414 I don't understand why I dropped it on hammer, 109 00:04:10,414 --> 00:04:16,354 but I did, I'm sorry. I don't understand. 110 00:04:11,664 --> 00:04:16,375 I don't know. I don't know why it hit ten hammers on the way down after I dropped it 111 00:04:16,674 --> 00:04:18,166 Yeah, the nail puncture, I don't know how that got there. 112 00:04:19,266 --> 00:04:21,348 The nail straight through it. Okay, 113 00:04:21,348 --> 00:04:25,201 so one of the five-star review from Barty Burns still the only podcast 114 00:04:25,201 --> 00:04:27,303 He hasn't gotten bored of we take thank you so much. 115 00:04:27,303 --> 00:04:30,385 I'm glad we're entertaining also important point regarding 116 00:04:30,385 --> 00:04:34,939 the Midwest John Steinbeck famously said this is from Barty Burns 117 00:04:35,179 --> 00:04:37,841 the Missouri River separating Mondan, 118 00:04:37,841 --> 00:04:42,986 North Dakota and Bismarck, North Dakota is the place the US map should fold Which 119 00:04:42,986 --> 00:04:46,479 is good to prove as any that North Dakota is the Midwest go team 120 00:04:46,812 --> 00:04:49,655 Can I just say Barty Burns definitely sounds like a character in 121 00:04:49,655 --> 00:04:51,885 a John Grisham book, just to be clear. 122 00:04:51,409 --> 00:04:52,869 Oh yeah, does, yeah, is. 123 00:04:51,885 --> 00:04:52,888 Like, I think that's a great name. 124 00:04:53,269 --> 00:04:55,229 That's a name. And I think, yeah, 125 00:04:55,229 --> 00:04:57,549 you fold it there, that's probably in the middle. 126 00:04:57,549 --> 00:05:01,809 North Dakota, Midwest, okay. You're very Midwest, 127 00:05:01,809 --> 00:05:04,489 and Michigan's away on that. No, 128 00:05:03,558 --> 00:05:07,151 We're east of the Midwest. We're the East Midwest. 129 00:05:04,489 --> 00:05:07,648 no, you're East, right. Yeah, 130 00:05:07,648 --> 00:05:10,489 okay, so Steinbeck was partial. 131 00:05:10,489 --> 00:05:12,509 He wanted more Midwest than there exists, 132 00:05:12,509 --> 00:05:13,789 I think. Anyway. 133 00:05:13,318 --> 00:05:14,318 Yeah, he 134 00:05:13,972 --> 00:05:16,153 was a sad. He was very depressed. 135 00:05:16,434 --> 00:05:19,734 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, okay. What's not depressing are these apps I want 136 00:05:19,734 --> 00:05:21,414 to give a shout out. See like that transition. 137 00:05:20,519 --> 00:05:21,519 Great. 138 00:05:21,414 --> 00:05:23,414 Thank you. A couple listeners, 139 00:05:23,414 --> 00:05:28,134 the virtual boy, thatvirtualboy.com wanted to shout out his app Diddley. 140 00:05:28,134 --> 00:05:29,374 You can get it on the app store, 141 00:05:29,374 --> 00:05:32,694 Mac and iPhone. It's a fun take on a task app. 142 00:05:32,694 --> 00:05:35,954 It looks really cool. And so I'm going to link that down in the show notes. 143 00:05:35,954 --> 00:05:39,454 And I'd heard about this app from several different creators. 144 00:05:39,454 --> 00:05:41,994 Christopher Lawley covered it on his YouTube channel and others. 145 00:05:41,994 --> 00:05:45,054 Beam, which is a web browser built 146 00:05:45,371 --> 00:05:49,642 for iPad to work and feel more like a desktop browser. 147 00:05:49,642 --> 00:05:51,523 It has a bunch of keyboard shortcuts, 148 00:05:51,523 --> 00:05:53,864 which is rare for a lot of iPad apps. 149 00:05:53,864 --> 00:05:56,904 It has built-in ad blocking, sidebar tabs. 150 00:05:56,904 --> 00:05:59,585 We had talked about vertical versus horizontal tabs. 151 00:05:59,585 --> 00:06:01,966 It's a one-time purchase, no subscription for six bucks. 152 00:06:01,966 --> 00:06:04,697 But if you're looking for a great browser on iPad, 153 00:06:04,697 --> 00:06:08,138 this is made by Henrique, who listens to the show and has listened 154 00:06:08,138 --> 00:06:09,548 to the podcast since the beginning, 155 00:06:09,548 --> 00:06:12,089 which is awesome. I had no idea that we had a... 156 00:06:12,315 --> 00:06:13,886 Just so many cool, no I did know. 157 00:06:13,886 --> 00:06:15,708 I know we had a lot of cool developers that listened to the show. 158 00:06:15,708 --> 00:06:18,850 Did not know Beam Creator listens and so it's awesome. 159 00:06:17,970 --> 00:06:20,002 Also, I just realized I do have this on my iPad. 160 00:06:18,850 --> 00:06:21,903 You do have, okay yeah, so Jason's been running this, 161 00:06:20,002 --> 00:06:21,199 Yeah. 162 00:06:21,903 --> 00:06:23,654 yeah. It's a great app. So that's Beam. 163 00:06:23,654 --> 00:06:25,095 That'll be linked down in the show notes. 164 00:06:25,095 --> 00:06:26,470 And one other app I wanna give a shout out, 165 00:06:26,470 --> 00:06:30,610 I covered this in my video earlier this week with Contextually for a Mac app, 166 00:06:30,610 --> 00:06:32,561 but Gnome is a pretty fun app. 167 00:06:32,561 --> 00:06:35,454 It's searching and getting GIFs quickly on the Mac, 168 00:06:35,454 --> 00:06:39,037 which sometimes is, you know, it could be not seamless. 169 00:06:39,037 --> 00:06:41,869 You know, if you wanna share a GIF in Slack and or email. 170 00:06:42,231 --> 00:06:43,572 And or some other messaging app. 171 00:06:43,572 --> 00:06:47,524 They don't always have great gif search and so gnome It's a seven dollar app. 172 00:06:47,524 --> 00:06:49,095 I talked about it in my video, 173 00:06:49,095 --> 00:06:53,648 but yeah, it's a fun little fast gif search I put it on a keyboard shortcut shift 174 00:06:53,648 --> 00:06:56,870 option command g and my gif search just comes right up. 175 00:06:56,870 --> 00:06:59,682 I can get a gif There you go gnome. 176 00:06:59,682 --> 00:07:00,953 Do you say gif or gif? 177 00:07:01,146 --> 00:07:04,266 I think it's a, I don't know. 178 00:07:04,266 --> 00:07:05,766 I don't usually say it out loud. 179 00:07:05,766 --> 00:07:10,186 I feel like it should be GIF, but I think I usually say JIF. 180 00:07:06,669 --> 00:07:09,301 Hmm. Thank you. Just stop right there. 181 00:07:09,301 --> 00:07:10,888 No. 182 00:07:10,186 --> 00:07:13,118 But I don't actually ever say any of it. 183 00:07:13,963 --> 00:07:17,617 Anyway, I believe it's GIF. Leave us a five star rating and review 184 00:07:16,290 --> 00:07:17,431 I think that's probably true. 185 00:07:17,617 --> 00:07:21,141 in Apple Podcasts and just say GIF or JIF. 186 00:07:21,141 --> 00:07:25,917 Just put your pronunciation spelled out with no other commentary in 187 00:07:25,917 --> 00:07:27,469 the five star review. GIF or JIF. 188 00:07:28,260 --> 00:07:29,655 Do you say PNG or ping? 189 00:07:30,627 --> 00:07:31,742 Do say giraffe or go-ra-f? 190 00:07:31,954 --> 00:07:34,065 See, my question was serious, but OK. 191 00:07:34,065 --> 00:07:40,001 Like a PNG, the image format PNG. 192 00:07:34,469 --> 00:07:35,836 Wait, wait, so say it again? 193 00:07:38,662 --> 00:07:40,113 I say P-N-G, I don't say ping. 194 00:07:40,001 --> 00:07:41,001 OK. 195 00:07:40,113 --> 00:07:41,113 Because 196 00:07:40,594 --> 00:07:42,815 ping is like another term. It's like P-I-N-G. 197 00:07:42,815 --> 00:07:44,637 I'm gonna ping you. Or whatever. 198 00:07:44,637 --> 00:07:49,181 Or like a technical term. Look at that. 199 00:07:45,815 --> 00:07:48,743 I'm gonna take a picture of you and make a screenshot of it and I'm gonna ping you 200 00:07:49,181 --> 00:07:52,994 Yeah, there's that. and one other shout out to the Medieval Knight riding 201 00:07:52,994 --> 00:07:54,744 a polar bear, which I'm wearing on my shirt right now. 202 00:07:54,744 --> 00:07:58,228 It actually made its way on a transatlantic cruise. 203 00:07:58,228 --> 00:08:02,622 This was ~ Chris Peck, a transatlantic to Lisbon, 204 00:08:02,622 --> 00:08:05,672 Portugal. There's a little medieval knight on the polar bear. 205 00:08:05,672 --> 00:08:06,672 12 days. 206 00:08:06,993 --> 00:08:10,274 four straight sea days. And yeah, 207 00:08:10,274 --> 00:08:12,141 he's brought the medieval night along. 208 00:08:12,141 --> 00:08:13,141 Look at that. 209 00:08:12,988 --> 00:08:15,936 That is amazing. I went to Portugal and I didn't take it with me. 210 00:08:15,936 --> 00:08:19,607 Listen, I left it with my Vision Pro so everything would be safe. 211 00:08:16,664 --> 00:08:17,664 How did you? 212 00:08:19,871 --> 00:08:24,896 Wow, man, so this is curious. I I knew the medieval knight had traveled many places 213 00:08:24,896 --> 00:08:28,440 in Europe I don't know if I think I might have sent one to Australia, 214 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:30,652 but now it's been transatlantic. 215 00:08:30,652 --> 00:08:35,287 It's crossed the Atlantic Ocean I wonder can we get it to all seven continents now? 216 00:08:35,936 --> 00:08:38,127 No, Antarctica is going to be a problem. 217 00:08:38,725 --> 00:08:39,725 Listen, I just 218 00:08:39,606 --> 00:08:43,589 watched Chloe Abrams' huge if true video about Antarctica, 219 00:08:43,589 --> 00:08:46,802 which was incredible. I'm actually going to ~ link it in 220 00:08:46,802 --> 00:08:49,589 my weekly newsletter podcast, Top 5 Tech. 221 00:08:49,589 --> 00:08:50,985 Let me just shamelessly plug that. 222 00:08:50,985 --> 00:08:53,887 If you like podcasts and you like hearing me on podcasts, 223 00:08:53,887 --> 00:08:56,790 top5.tech. I've been doing an episode every week. 224 00:08:56,790 --> 00:08:58,621 But she went there. She went to Antarctica. 225 00:08:58,621 --> 00:09:00,112 I made a whole YouTube video. think, 226 00:09:00,112 --> 00:09:04,226 okay, here's the thing. We need to confirm that the medieval knight riding 227 00:09:04,226 --> 00:09:06,217 a polar bear is reaching all seven continents. 228 00:09:06,217 --> 00:09:07,919 So I know we're in Europe. 229 00:09:08,039 --> 00:09:10,639 We're in the US. If you're in South America, 230 00:09:10,639 --> 00:09:14,006 Africa, Asia, Australia, 231 00:09:14,006 --> 00:09:19,886 and if there's any possibility that someone who's going to Antarctica listens 232 00:09:19,886 --> 00:09:24,306 to this show, email me podcastatprimarytech.fm. 233 00:09:24,306 --> 00:09:26,866 Number one, I'll send you a pin if you can somehow confirm that you're 234 00:09:26,866 --> 00:09:28,826 in these countries or on these continents, 235 00:09:28,826 --> 00:09:32,226 and I will pay the $8,000 to send you a pin. 236 00:09:32,226 --> 00:09:35,146 I will, I will send you a pin so we can be at awesome continents. 237 00:09:34,075 --> 00:09:35,302 The ideal scenario is if you 238 00:09:35,302 --> 00:09:37,373 live in the US and you're going to one of those continents, 239 00:09:37,373 --> 00:09:38,373 just let us know. 240 00:09:38,566 --> 00:09:41,306 That too, I feel like I want, mean someone who lives, 241 00:09:41,306 --> 00:09:44,366 because I know we just had a listener from Japan leave us a five star rating review. 242 00:09:44,366 --> 00:09:47,526 oh, Medieval Knight, all seven continents, 243 00:09:44,488 --> 00:09:45,488 All right. 244 00:09:47,526 --> 00:09:49,086 that's the goal. And last thing, 245 00:09:49,086 --> 00:09:52,026 thank you, Housekeeping for 4K on YouTube. 246 00:09:52,026 --> 00:09:53,706 We reached 4,000 subscribers over there, 247 00:09:53,706 --> 00:09:54,706 which is super fun. 248 00:09:54,076 --> 00:09:55,076 I thought maybe 249 00:09:54,547 --> 00:09:56,639 you just meant we're releasing the show in 4k. 250 00:09:56,581 --> 00:09:58,241 No, that's every week. That's every week, 251 00:09:56,639 --> 00:09:59,361 I just was like, what does this even mean? 252 00:09:58,241 --> 00:10:02,081 No, 253 00:09:59,361 --> 00:10:01,744 YouTube has had 4k for a long time. 254 00:10:02,101 --> 00:10:03,481 no, no, it's every week. All right. 255 00:10:03,481 --> 00:10:07,261 Your app is out live. People can download it for free. 256 00:10:07,261 --> 00:10:10,241 It's a great app for free. There's a lot of great free things. 257 00:10:10,241 --> 00:10:13,161 I'm saying that because of my own PTSD about that. 258 00:10:13,161 --> 00:10:18,061 But you wrote it. Claude code helped solve my biggest productivity problem. 259 00:10:18,061 --> 00:10:19,785 Jason, how's been the first week of your app? 260 00:10:18,492 --> 00:10:19,492 Yeah, 261 00:10:19,893 --> 00:10:23,797 it's been really cool. ~ It's weird to have to have made something and then 262 00:10:23,797 --> 00:10:27,010 to see it for real like in the it was was kind of like the first time 263 00:10:27,010 --> 00:10:30,483 I wrote a story for ink and it was like super surreal to be like, 264 00:10:30,483 --> 00:10:34,406 I typed those words. And somebody was willing to publish them. 265 00:10:34,406 --> 00:10:38,270 What is happening right now? But it's kind of cool. 266 00:10:34,605 --> 00:10:36,673 Yeah. Right. 267 00:10:38,270 --> 00:10:42,294 It it's been great. So the Mac app released last Thursday, 268 00:10:42,294 --> 00:10:44,716 it is free to download. It's free to use forever. 269 00:10:45,550 --> 00:10:50,502 It's if you all you want is a replacement for I will pitch this the free version 270 00:10:50,502 --> 00:10:55,443 of this app. If all you want is a replacement for the notes app that stock note 271 00:10:55,563 --> 00:10:59,995 Apple Notes app that will sync with your calendar so you can just create notes from 272 00:10:59,995 --> 00:11:03,826 calendar events and change the theme like maybe you're just tired of looking 273 00:11:03,826 --> 00:11:05,266 at that yellow in the notes app, 274 00:11:05,266 --> 00:11:08,177 right? Then this is perfect. It's a free app. 275 00:11:08,177 --> 00:11:09,808 You can have up to three notebooks, 276 00:11:09,808 --> 00:11:10,808 unlimited notes. 277 00:11:11,584 --> 00:11:13,565 It'll sync your calendar. can create notes from your calendar. 278 00:11:13,565 --> 00:11:15,317 You can ignore the calendar part like that. 279 00:11:15,317 --> 00:11:18,399 If that's not like literally if all you wanted was a prettier version 280 00:11:18,399 --> 00:11:20,911 of the notes app, this is a great option for you. 281 00:11:20,911 --> 00:11:25,323 It does have a subscription, five dollars a month or thirty nine dollars a year. 282 00:11:25,323 --> 00:11:27,755 And for that, you do get some additional features. 283 00:11:27,755 --> 00:11:30,717 You get smart summaries, which essentially what it will do is like look 284 00:11:30,717 --> 00:11:34,450 at your note, give you a summary of that note and then pull out any action items. 285 00:11:34,450 --> 00:11:37,362 So like if you take a lot of notes and along the way you're like should do this, 286 00:11:37,362 --> 00:11:39,083 need to do this, have this thing happening, 287 00:11:39,083 --> 00:11:40,724 it'll just give you the 288 00:11:41,026 --> 00:11:44,258 give you that summary at the top and then it will also pull out action items 289 00:11:44,558 --> 00:11:47,890 and then you can just take those action items and send them to reminders or 290 00:11:47,890 --> 00:11:51,889 to do as there's things. So it's kind of like bridging the flow between 291 00:11:51,889 --> 00:11:54,674 I have a thing I have to do and when I go do that thing I'm going to 292 00:11:54,674 --> 00:11:57,886 get more things I have to do and I need a way to keep track of all of that. 293 00:11:57,886 --> 00:12:01,878 Steven is using the pepper theme right now which is I like this one a lot. 294 00:12:00,451 --> 00:12:01,451 Yes. 295 00:12:01,878 --> 00:12:05,320 So that was actually the most fun part was imagining what the themes should be. 296 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:07,051 So there are a couple different themes in here. 297 00:12:07,051 --> 00:12:08,672 ~ And so 298 00:12:07,213 --> 00:12:08,213 Yeah. 299 00:12:08,802 --> 00:12:12,164 that the paid version gets that there is a pretty cool paid feature that will 300 00:12:12,164 --> 00:12:16,677 be it's basically ready but I'm waiting for WWDC because I think it will 301 00:12:16,677 --> 00:12:19,699 be better after that I'm hoping that they make some announcements I think 302 00:12:19,699 --> 00:12:23,061 we talked a little bit about that in the the pre-show so if you want 303 00:12:23,061 --> 00:12:26,843 to listen to that you should go subscribe to the show but but I've been asked like 304 00:12:26,843 --> 00:12:31,776 why why subscription why not just a one-time thing that's great I'll just 305 00:12:31,776 --> 00:12:35,698 say this since the app is released last week I've I've pushed out like 306 00:12:35,926 --> 00:12:38,366 Well, I've already pushed out two updates to the iPhone version and 307 00:12:38,366 --> 00:12:39,985 I'm pushing out a Mac update today. 308 00:12:39,985 --> 00:12:44,126 like, this is not a just push it out into the world and forget about it. 309 00:12:44,126 --> 00:12:49,226 So I'm hoping for people who pay for it that it becomes worth it for them 310 00:12:49,226 --> 00:12:51,166 and that they were like, yeah, 311 00:12:51,166 --> 00:12:53,726 $39 a year. That's not that much money. 312 00:12:53,726 --> 00:12:56,726 it's a well-designed, I think it's a very well-designed app. 313 00:12:56,726 --> 00:12:59,626 I did not know anything about how to write code. 314 00:12:59,626 --> 00:13:02,806 I've learned a ton about CloudKit and iCloud sync. 315 00:13:02,985 --> 00:13:03,985 Right? 316 00:13:03,184 --> 00:13:04,184 I have learned a 317 00:13:03,935 --> 00:13:07,037 ton about the differences between an iOS app on the iPhone versus 318 00:13:07,037 --> 00:13:09,188 the iPad because there's a lot more to that. 319 00:13:09,188 --> 00:13:10,910 I mean, it's obvious that there's a lot to that, 320 00:13:10,910 --> 00:13:13,231 but just having to reimagine, okay, 321 00:13:13,231 --> 00:13:15,122 on a Mac, what should the experience be like? 322 00:13:15,122 --> 00:13:16,994 On an iPhone, what should the experience be like? 323 00:13:16,994 --> 00:13:19,205 And on an iPhone, you just want to quickly be able to take a note, 324 00:13:19,205 --> 00:13:21,467 right? Like, and on the Mac, you want to be able to organize it 325 00:13:19,517 --> 00:13:20,517 Yeah, there you go. 326 00:13:21,467 --> 00:13:24,549 and get this information out. And the iPad is kind of an in-between, 327 00:13:24,549 --> 00:13:26,010 right? You have more real estate, 328 00:13:26,010 --> 00:13:27,671 so it should be more Mac-like, 329 00:13:27,671 --> 00:13:31,124 but also it's an iOS app, so there's like some in-you-can- 330 00:13:31,910 --> 00:13:34,672 I bet is the only one you can rotate the orientation. 331 00:13:34,672 --> 00:13:37,733 So you really have to think through what should this interface 332 00:13:35,566 --> 00:13:36,566 Right. 333 00:13:37,733 --> 00:13:39,945 be like horizontally versus vertically. 334 00:13:39,945 --> 00:13:43,627 So I tried to think about all those things for all of our all the people 335 00:13:40,468 --> 00:13:41,468 Mmm. 336 00:13:43,627 --> 00:13:48,629 who are using it. And so far, I feel like a lot of people have really resonated with 337 00:13:48,629 --> 00:13:51,381 it. So hopefully I would just encourage you if you're listening to this, 338 00:13:49,427 --> 00:13:50,427 That's awesome. 339 00:13:51,381 --> 00:13:53,922 you won't offend me if you just download it for free. 340 00:13:53,922 --> 00:13:56,414 Just like download it, give it a try. 341 00:13:54,204 --> 00:13:55,204 Yeah, yeah. 342 00:13:56,414 --> 00:13:59,125 And then you can I think it's a two week. 343 00:13:59,125 --> 00:14:00,746 You can get a two week free trial of the 344 00:14:01,128 --> 00:14:04,727 of the pro features, I would just encourage you try the pro features. 345 00:14:02,567 --> 00:14:03,567 Yeah, yeah. 346 00:14:04,727 --> 00:14:08,297 If you hate them, go ahead and just like cancel. 347 00:14:08,297 --> 00:14:09,921 won't be mad at you. 348 00:14:08,563 --> 00:14:09,563 Yeah, yeah. 349 00:14:10,703 --> 00:14:13,823 This is awesome. What did you use for the marketing images? 350 00:14:13,823 --> 00:14:16,483 I love the font that you have in some of these images. 351 00:14:15,444 --> 00:14:16,955 Yeah, yeah, just, 352 00:14:16,483 --> 00:14:17,483 What would that... 353 00:14:17,115 --> 00:14:19,997 well, I just went through and I took screenshots of the app and then I laid them 354 00:14:19,997 --> 00:14:24,039 out in the right format in Illustrator and then just exported them and 355 00:14:24,199 --> 00:14:27,211 put them in there. So yeah, 356 00:14:25,043 --> 00:14:26,343 So you made these like bespoke, 357 00:14:26,343 --> 00:14:29,603 like you made the... That's That's nice. 358 00:14:27,211 --> 00:14:28,721 yeah, all of that is just, so. 359 00:14:30,083 --> 00:14:31,263 It's great fun. So contextually, 360 00:14:31,263 --> 00:14:34,223 I'll put a link to it in the app store down in the show notes. 361 00:14:34,223 --> 00:14:37,123 Super fun. iPhone, iPad, and Mac. 362 00:14:37,123 --> 00:14:41,223 And as I've been trying to develop my boondoggle of a second app, 363 00:14:41,223 --> 00:14:45,223 I have to say it is tough when you start adding things like syncing 364 00:14:45,223 --> 00:14:48,283 and maybe sharing things like from the share sheet. 365 00:14:48,283 --> 00:14:51,443 it's tough, but great work. It's awesome. 366 00:14:51,443 --> 00:14:52,903 It's awesome app. And I do love that theme. 367 00:14:52,406 --> 00:14:53,406 Thanks. 368 00:14:52,903 --> 00:14:54,775 It's a good theme. All right. 369 00:14:54,995 --> 00:14:57,595 News now Sony released a new camera. 370 00:14:57,595 --> 00:15:02,275 Uh, we don't have it in hand, but I do want to mention it's the sony a7r6 371 00:15:02,275 --> 00:15:04,175 And so I will link Gerald undone. 372 00:15:04,175 --> 00:15:07,795 He retired from youtube and then he posted this video I mean, 373 00:15:07,795 --> 00:15:11,795 it's a collaboration. So it's not technically like Gerald's video He just appears 374 00:15:11,795 --> 00:15:15,035 in it and talks about rolling stutter and and or rolling shutter. 375 00:15:15,035 --> 00:15:21,135 Excuse me uh, yeah, yeah, I I wanted to shout out because I mean I use a sony 376 00:15:15,936 --> 00:15:17,351 two totally different things, but yeah. 377 00:15:21,135 --> 00:15:23,095 a7 4 still and i've 378 00:15:23,368 --> 00:15:28,170 I've marked myself safe from purchasing a Sony a75 even though I've been tempted 379 00:15:28,170 --> 00:15:30,011 several times, but I just have no reason for it. 380 00:15:30,011 --> 00:15:32,962 I literally just keep this camera on this tripod, 381 00:15:32,962 --> 00:15:35,553 never change any settings, and hit record whenever I make a video. 382 00:15:35,553 --> 00:15:39,894 But, you know, Sony releases their series of cameras. 383 00:15:39,894 --> 00:15:44,196 The R comes out first, so the A7R6, 384 00:15:44,196 --> 00:15:48,808 and then they typically will release the A7-6 without the R, 385 00:15:48,808 --> 00:15:51,249 which is more of a hybrid camera where it will have, 386 00:15:51,249 --> 00:15:52,249 you know, 387 00:15:52,391 --> 00:15:57,055 more video features than typically the R series and less megapixels 388 00:15:57,355 --> 00:16:02,108 and then maybe they release an S version which I don't think an A7s ever came 389 00:16:02,108 --> 00:16:06,902 out I think they're still on the A7s3 which is kind of the the youtuber camera 390 00:16:06,902 --> 00:16:11,485 at least for a long time but the A7R6 it's out there it's like sixty something 391 00:16:11,485 --> 00:16:17,930 megapixels it can film 8K 30 which is wild and you know that's 392 00:16:18,250 --> 00:16:19,250 if you wanted to 393 00:16:19,679 --> 00:16:23,692 And it also doesn't overheat they in this testing I'll link the video with Gerald 394 00:16:23,692 --> 00:16:28,716 undone and Mark Bennett They record over like three plus hours at 4k 395 00:16:28,716 --> 00:16:33,599 and 30 I think or 4k 60 and it didn't shut off or overheat. 396 00:16:33,599 --> 00:16:36,191 It was just it was wild. So yeah 397 00:16:36,030 --> 00:16:37,030 a little 398 00:16:36,311 --> 00:16:38,717 polar bear in there just running around cooling things down. 399 00:16:38,717 --> 00:16:41,824 I mean, I don't know. 400 00:16:39,033 --> 00:16:42,434 polar bear with a medieval night maybe I don't 401 00:16:41,824 --> 00:16:42,824 Sure. 402 00:16:42,936 --> 00:16:46,066 know and you can you say anything about this or no you 403 00:16:47,567 --> 00:16:49,152 I don't have any information yet. 404 00:16:49,152 --> 00:16:51,289 I'm hoping to try it out though. 405 00:16:49,575 --> 00:16:52,184 Okay, very good. Yeah, 406 00:16:51,289 --> 00:16:53,205 Like I would love to review this device so. 407 00:16:53,509 --> 00:16:55,617 Yeah, you should bring it to an F1 race or something. 408 00:16:55,617 --> 00:16:56,617 That'd be cool. 409 00:16:55,806 --> 00:16:56,806 That'd be 410 00:16:56,126 --> 00:17:02,454 amazing. That is my thing. That is how I test Sony devices is take them to F1 races. 411 00:16:59,207 --> 00:17:02,487 That's how you do it. just F1 race. 412 00:17:02,627 --> 00:17:05,707 Speaking of someone you have a relationship with, 413 00:17:05,707 --> 00:17:08,887 Lego, right? No, 414 00:17:06,581 --> 00:17:09,577 I was like, okay, I was like, where are we going? 415 00:17:08,887 --> 00:17:12,167 no, no, a brand. I just want to mention, 416 00:17:12,167 --> 00:17:15,127 I don't think this is security issue. 417 00:17:15,127 --> 00:17:20,446 My Wi-Fi network name is Minas Tirith because I'm a Lord of the Rings 418 00:17:20,446 --> 00:17:22,166 fan and I thought that was a fun name. 419 00:17:22,166 --> 00:17:24,566 And Lego announced that they are 420 00:17:25,208 --> 00:17:31,688 making a Minas Tirith set. It's going on sale June 1st and it looks incredible. 421 00:17:31,688 --> 00:17:35,954 And I've not bought a crazy Lego like this, 422 00:17:35,954 --> 00:17:38,338 I don't think ever, but I'm pretty tempted. 423 00:17:38,338 --> 00:17:39,991 I mean that thing looks awesome. 424 00:17:40,145 --> 00:17:42,740 mean, 8,300 pieces is a lot of pieces, 425 00:17:42,740 --> 00:17:43,740 Stephen. 426 00:17:43,957 --> 00:17:50,484 lot of pieces but i mean i could i will redo my entire studio backdrop over here 427 00:17:50,484 --> 00:17:54,408 and just have minas tirith in the background of all my videos i mean that feels like 428 00:17:54,808 --> 00:18:00,514 maybe it's worth it and it's a business expense too this is a business expense 429 00:17:56,721 --> 00:18:02,175 Yeah. A business. All right. 430 00:18:00,994 --> 00:18:03,677 no just kidding i actually bought the well go ahead 431 00:18:02,175 --> 00:18:03,757 That's that's gonna be like 432 00:18:03,757 --> 00:18:06,369 the third or fourth largest. Like I said, 433 00:18:06,369 --> 00:18:11,023 there's a couple over there's like two over 10,000 pieces. 434 00:18:06,745 --> 00:18:07,745 Really? 435 00:18:11,023 --> 00:18:12,454 There's like the Eiffel Tower. 436 00:18:12,454 --> 00:18:17,278 The Titanic is pretty big. There's like one of the Coliseum and there's like some 437 00:18:17,478 --> 00:18:19,490 map that they have. It's like a world map. 438 00:18:19,490 --> 00:18:22,442 I think that's the largest with like 11,000 pieces or something. 439 00:18:22,442 --> 00:18:24,804 But how many did that thing say? 440 00:18:24,804 --> 00:18:25,963 8300s. 441 00:18:25,325 --> 00:18:26,505 It was 8300 442 00:18:26,505 --> 00:18:30,807 but now I just found LEGO's official top 10 list or top 11, 443 00:18:30,807 --> 00:18:34,261 the biggest LEGOs ever. I had not heard about this world map. 444 00:18:34,261 --> 00:18:36,733 The world map is over 11,000 pieces. 445 00:18:36,733 --> 00:18:40,625 It was the biggest LEGO set. The Eiffel Tower. 446 00:18:40,625 --> 00:18:42,056 You just knew this stuff off the top of your head. 447 00:18:42,056 --> 00:18:45,899 That's wild. 10,000 pieces was the Eiffel Tower. 448 00:18:42,211 --> 00:18:43,862 I spend a lot of time with Lego. 449 00:18:43,862 --> 00:18:48,854 The company, not the pieces. We have a lot 450 00:18:45,899 --> 00:18:48,811 Yeah, yeah. I mean, but if you could spend time with the pieces. 451 00:18:48,854 --> 00:18:50,955 of Lego pieces in our house too, 452 00:18:50,955 --> 00:18:52,565 by the way. Literally we have a Lego room, 453 00:18:52,565 --> 00:18:55,486 Stephen. We actually have an entire room that is just Lego. 454 00:18:53,369 --> 00:18:56,949 Really? I should come up and do a video about that. 455 00:18:55,486 --> 00:18:59,018 Have I not? We've talked about this for sure. 456 00:18:56,949 --> 00:19:00,329 That's wild. I don't know. I don't think we've talked about this. 457 00:18:59,018 --> 00:19:01,429 All right, I'll find a picture. 458 00:19:00,329 --> 00:19:01,329 A LEGO room? 459 00:19:02,109 --> 00:19:04,569 You should let me pick it up. 9,000 pieces is the Death Star. 460 00:19:04,569 --> 00:19:06,549 The Millennium Falcon, if you were wondering, 461 00:19:06,549 --> 00:19:09,869 was 7,500. I thought the Death Star would have been more. 462 00:19:09,869 --> 00:19:13,789 But no, apparently not. Okay, I had no idea the world map. 463 00:19:13,789 --> 00:19:16,909 That Titanic. That's crazy. Anyway. 464 00:19:16,763 --> 00:19:17,763 Here 465 00:19:17,213 --> 00:19:20,056 we go. I found you a picture of our Lego room. 466 00:19:20,053 --> 00:19:21,420 Can I show this online or people? 467 00:19:20,056 --> 00:19:23,129 Yeah, I don't care. We have an entire room. 468 00:19:23,129 --> 00:19:27,262 This is pretty old, so there's probably more newer, 469 00:19:27,262 --> 00:19:28,533 but I'll just send this to you. 470 00:19:28,379 --> 00:19:31,359 Did you text this to me? Okay, 471 00:19:28,533 --> 00:19:30,405 So I just did. Yeah. 472 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:32,764 I'll wait for it to come through and then we'll pop it up, 473 00:19:32,764 --> 00:19:33,764 but I'll use it. 474 00:19:32,783 --> 00:19:33,783 It'll come 475 00:19:33,466 --> 00:19:35,493 through right now, dude. It doesn't take that long. 476 00:19:35,493 --> 00:19:39,087 The internet you're 6000 megabyte per millisecond. 477 00:19:35,754 --> 00:19:39,245 It takes a while. It's not 478 00:19:39,245 --> 00:19:41,796 me, it's iMessage. It's now dealing with all those end-to-end encrypted 479 00:19:41,977 --> 00:19:43,777 RCS messages, which we're going to get to next. 480 00:19:43,777 --> 00:19:47,299 so it can't... ~ this... Now, 481 00:19:47,299 --> 00:19:50,300 this almost looks like the Lego movie setup, 482 00:19:50,300 --> 00:19:53,271 you know what mean? Where Will Ferrell comes down and yells at his kids. 483 00:19:53,327 --> 00:19:55,470 This one's pretty, this is a relatively old photo, 484 00:19:55,470 --> 00:19:56,961 but yeah, then we have a whole Lego room. 485 00:19:56,961 --> 00:19:58,353 then if you go like to the right of this, 486 00:19:58,353 --> 00:20:01,356 you can't see is just a lot more Lego sets in those bins. 487 00:20:01,497 --> 00:20:02,497 That's 488 00:20:01,777 --> 00:20:07,477 pretty sweet. Actually, there's a small Lego area in my parents' house that we've 489 00:20:07,477 --> 00:20:09,277 just kept up. It has a castle and stuff, 490 00:20:09,277 --> 00:20:12,717 but man. Lego Room. If you have a Lego room, 491 00:20:12,717 --> 00:20:14,517 send us a picture. I'd love to see that. 492 00:20:14,517 --> 00:20:17,517 That's super fun. All right. Software updates. 493 00:20:17,517 --> 00:20:19,237 Oh, before we get to that, actually, 494 00:20:19,237 --> 00:20:21,917 I wanted to mention Apple Vision Pro just for a brief minute because 495 00:20:21,917 --> 00:20:24,917 iOS 26.5 came out. Software updates for everything. 496 00:20:24,917 --> 00:20:28,637 I do turn on my Vision Pro to update the software when the occasion calls. 497 00:20:29,477 --> 00:20:32,860 While I was there. I knew that there were several immersive videos that come 498 00:20:32,860 --> 00:20:37,843 out and there was one on Sweden We know Switzerland excuse me. 499 00:20:37,843 --> 00:20:40,675 There's a Switzerland one and New York City, 500 00:20:40,675 --> 00:20:43,987 and I just want to shout out that they are both Awesome, 501 00:20:43,987 --> 00:20:45,368 have you watched either of those? 502 00:20:45,348 --> 00:20:46,775 No, but I will as soon as we're done. 503 00:20:45,368 --> 00:20:48,421 The Switzerland one is beautiful. 504 00:20:48,421 --> 00:20:51,843 You know it talks about the Alps it shows cities and towns the narrator 505 00:20:51,843 --> 00:20:57,547 is a actress I believe a Swiss actress is a great one 506 00:20:58,187 --> 00:20:59,817 The New York City one, I'm from New York. 507 00:20:59,817 --> 00:21:03,598 have, you know, I feel very connected there and I was very curious how they would 508 00:21:03,598 --> 00:21:09,580 do a New York City immersive video and they nailed it because there's actually 509 00:21:09,580 --> 00:21:14,662 no narration. It's literally just sounds and sights of the city. 510 00:21:14,662 --> 00:21:18,002 And if you've ever been in New York City or if you know it well, 511 00:21:18,002 --> 00:21:21,333 they really captured it accurately. 512 00:21:21,333 --> 00:21:23,054 Like it feels like New York City. 513 00:21:23,054 --> 00:21:25,795 And again, if you've been there, 514 00:21:25,795 --> 00:21:27,245 New York feels like an organism. 515 00:21:27,438 --> 00:21:30,121 Like the whole city just kind of feels like a living thing. 516 00:21:30,121 --> 00:21:34,645 And the immersive Applevision Pro thing, 517 00:21:34,645 --> 00:21:37,669 show, one of the ~ experience, 518 00:21:37,669 --> 00:21:40,211 I forget what it is. There's Boundless and then there's, 519 00:21:40,211 --> 00:21:44,255 what's the other one? Boundless is a series of like the hot air balloons and stuff. 520 00:21:44,255 --> 00:21:47,539 And then there's the one with the high line and everything. 521 00:21:46,959 --> 00:21:49,612 I have no idea. don't I don't use the 522 00:21:47,539 --> 00:21:49,401 It's a series. 523 00:21:49,652 --> 00:21:51,925 I don't use that. I go into the Apple TV app in my vision, 524 00:21:51,925 --> 00:21:55,077 bro, though I was really excited because people kept talking about 525 00:21:55,077 --> 00:22:02,046 how what's the movie that was the big the space movie Hail Mary was out on. 526 00:22:01,603 --> 00:22:02,603 Project Hail Mary. 527 00:22:02,046 --> 00:22:03,828 Yeah, it was out on Amazon Prime, 528 00:22:03,828 --> 00:22:04,869 but it's to. 529 00:22:04,987 --> 00:22:07,279 Yeah, or you can buy- you should just buy it because it's great. 530 00:22:07,279 --> 00:22:10,542 Hold on. I need to find- 531 00:22:10,542 --> 00:22:11,793 it's boundless- what is the other one? 532 00:22:11,793 --> 00:22:14,185 This is gonna drive me nuts. It's the- 533 00:22:14,185 --> 00:22:16,467 it's the one with the high line and... 534 00:22:15,969 --> 00:22:18,579 Someone is yelling at you right now listening to this. 535 00:22:16,467 --> 00:22:21,320 I'm yelling at myself. AppleVision Pro immersive video, 536 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,363 the high line, tell me the sear- 537 00:22:23,363 --> 00:22:26,216 anyway. It's the one- it's that one. 538 00:22:26,216 --> 00:22:27,707 It's the series with the high line. 539 00:22:28,425 --> 00:22:29,945 It starts with an E, I forget what it is. 540 00:22:29,945 --> 00:22:31,465 It'll just pop into my head. But anyway, 541 00:22:31,465 --> 00:22:33,365 the New York one, if you have AppleVision Pro, 542 00:22:33,365 --> 00:22:34,525 I think some of our listeners and viewers, 543 00:22:34,525 --> 00:22:37,065 or if you've never done an AppleVision Pro, 544 00:22:37,065 --> 00:22:38,745 who knows how long it'll be around. 545 00:22:38,745 --> 00:22:41,085 So maybe just go to the Apple Store and try it out. 546 00:22:41,085 --> 00:22:44,045 But the Switzerland one and the New York City one are really great. 547 00:22:44,045 --> 00:22:47,985 And so I just... Thank you! See, 548 00:22:44,333 --> 00:22:45,953 Elevated, is that what it is? 549 00:22:47,985 --> 00:22:49,265 I knew it started with an E, elevated. 550 00:22:49,265 --> 00:22:52,665 I don't know how you... I was literally Googling feverishly over here. 551 00:22:52,479 --> 00:22:53,892 I'm just better at Google than you. 552 00:22:52,665 --> 00:22:56,605 Apparently, apparently, Gemini Intelligence. 553 00:22:53,892 --> 00:22:56,807 You 554 00:22:56,807 --> 00:22:57,807 have no idea. 555 00:22:58,270 --> 00:22:59,270 Apparently 556 00:22:59,391 --> 00:23:03,254 so also with iOS 26.5 for your iPhone There is now end-to-end encryption 557 00:23:03,254 --> 00:23:07,167 for RCS messaging Apple says it's supposedly in beta But Google made 558 00:23:07,167 --> 00:23:10,861 a big deal about this when 26.5 came out earlier this week on Monday. 559 00:23:10,861 --> 00:23:15,165 It is on by default I updated to 26.5 on all my devices, 560 00:23:15,165 --> 00:23:18,908 but my iPhone like they're toggled on you can go to settings apps messages 561 00:23:18,908 --> 00:23:20,439 And you can see it there, but yeah, 562 00:23:20,439 --> 00:23:24,243 that's great and also I saw the splash screen for ads in Apple Maps 563 00:23:24,649 --> 00:23:26,749 Now I have not seen any ads in Apple Maps yet. 564 00:23:26,749 --> 00:23:28,089 think that's coming this summer, 565 00:23:28,089 --> 00:23:30,649 which I don't, you Apple considers summer, 566 00:23:30,649 --> 00:23:35,589 what, June 21st probably too. Anytime between November. 567 00:23:31,967 --> 00:23:34,698 Any time between now and November is summer. 568 00:23:35,589 --> 00:23:38,729 So you will see an ad. If you see an ad in Apple Maps, 569 00:23:38,729 --> 00:23:39,989 take a screenshot and send it to us. 570 00:23:39,989 --> 00:23:41,249 I'd be curious. I have not seen any yet. 571 00:23:41,249 --> 00:23:44,009 There's also suggested places now in Apple Maps. 572 00:23:44,009 --> 00:23:47,529 So as soon as you tap the search box in Apple Maps, 573 00:23:47,529 --> 00:23:49,989 it will just show suggested places, 574 00:23:49,989 --> 00:23:52,029 even if you've not asked it anything. 575 00:23:52,029 --> 00:23:53,909 And so right now I'm... 576 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,572 showing Jerry's Barbecue, can't see it on the screen, 577 00:23:56,572 --> 00:23:58,683 it's too bright, but Jerry's Barbecue and Bob Evans. 578 00:23:58,683 --> 00:24:00,224 Those are my suggested places. 579 00:24:00,224 --> 00:24:03,266 I would not go to Bob Evans, but anyway, 580 00:24:03,266 --> 00:24:08,292 that's that. Also, they featured some developers ~ recently. 581 00:24:08,292 --> 00:24:11,564 They had a whole article featuring developers in the community 582 00:24:11,564 --> 00:24:15,187 and spotlighting them. The developer of Mercury Weather was included 583 00:24:15,187 --> 00:24:19,790 in that roundup. But now they're also apparently forming a team where Apple 584 00:24:19,790 --> 00:24:22,762 Ads is courting developers and the team is called the 585 00:24:23,024 --> 00:24:26,768 emerging team, the new emerging team group that's going to reach 586 00:24:26,768 --> 00:24:28,360 out to developers to see if they want to like, 587 00:24:28,360 --> 00:24:31,223 you know, do ads on Apple services. 588 00:24:31,223 --> 00:24:35,930 I don't know. I feel like the ads in the app store have not historically been great, 589 00:24:35,930 --> 00:24:37,942 but maybe, I don't know, maybe they're going to do new ones. 590 00:24:37,942 --> 00:24:38,942 Maybe. 591 00:24:39,615 --> 00:24:43,437 Would call me guys because here's the thing when when your app gets released 592 00:24:43,437 --> 00:24:46,859 in the app store You get an email and it says welcome to the app store. 593 00:24:44,449 --> 00:24:45,449 Yes. 594 00:24:46,859 --> 00:24:49,520 Here's a hundred dollar credit to use for Apple ads. 595 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,611 I was like sweet I'll spend it. 596 00:24:50,242 --> 00:24:51,242 ~ 597 00:24:51,611 --> 00:24:53,582 I'll spend a credit like I mean, 598 00:24:53,582 --> 00:24:59,705 whatever so I set it up and When I log in to look at my Apple ads account, 599 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,684 Interesting. Yes. 600 00:24:59,705 --> 00:25:02,417 it shows me that I have an ad running 601 00:25:02,838 --> 00:25:03,838 Okay. 602 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:07,284 And it shows me that it has been shown exactly zero times and it's been clicked 603 00:25:06,814 --> 00:25:07,814 What? 604 00:25:07,284 --> 00:25:10,567 on exactly zero times and I have gotten exactly zero. 605 00:25:10,567 --> 00:25:13,630 It's like, so whatever, I just don't understand. 606 00:25:13,630 --> 00:25:18,595 What does it mean if an ad is running and it's never been shown to anyone? 607 00:25:16,479 --> 00:25:19,974 Evan... If a tree falls in the forest... 608 00:25:18,595 --> 00:25:23,430 This doesn't, I feel like the definition of running is like. 609 00:25:23,594 --> 00:25:26,254 kind of loosely held here because I don't understand what's happening. 610 00:25:26,254 --> 00:25:30,374 anyway, call me Apple ads people because I would like to use this. 611 00:25:29,413 --> 00:25:30,413 You have thoughts? 612 00:25:30,374 --> 00:25:33,374 I will I just would like to burn this hundred dollar credit to the ground. 613 00:25:33,374 --> 00:25:38,514 And if that means that some people actually now maybe the problem is that 614 00:25:38,514 --> 00:25:44,674 you have to tell it like what your bid amount is and maybe 615 00:25:44,165 --> 00:25:45,165 ~ 616 00:25:44,674 --> 00:25:48,334 25 cents was too low. And so they're never going to show it was not 25 cents. 617 00:25:48,334 --> 00:25:51,474 But maybe they're just never going to show my ad. 618 00:25:51,885 --> 00:25:54,406 I will say I just searched for Markdown Notes, 619 00:25:54,406 --> 00:25:57,608 which I guess, I don't know if you have Markdown anywhere in your, 620 00:25:57,608 --> 00:26:01,210 you probably have to target that keyword if you wanted that to show up. 621 00:25:59,530 --> 00:26:00,530 Hmm. 622 00:26:01,210 --> 00:26:04,272 But I saw, I'm seeing ads for Note Plan, 623 00:26:04,272 --> 00:26:07,433 which I'm familiar with, and Coco Note, 624 00:26:07,433 --> 00:26:12,576 an AI note taker. saw two, I've never seen two ads one right after another 625 00:26:13,077 --> 00:26:14,877 in the search, App Store search. 626 00:26:14,877 --> 00:26:20,370 If you're watching, there's actually the Note Plan ad bare right in the middle, 627 00:26:20,370 --> 00:26:21,370 not an ad. 628 00:26:21,591 --> 00:26:25,066 and then Coco Note, which I've never heard of. 629 00:26:25,066 --> 00:26:26,799 I've never seen a double ad like that. 630 00:26:27,060 --> 00:26:28,610 Coconut, that's a clever name, 631 00:26:28,610 --> 00:26:29,610 like coconut. 632 00:26:29,581 --> 00:26:30,904 yeah, like a coconut, that's good name. 633 00:26:30,904 --> 00:26:34,101 I don't see context in it. You should add Markdown to your description 634 00:26:34,101 --> 00:26:35,101 or your things or whatever. 635 00:26:36,010 --> 00:26:40,393 Okay. I'm just gonna have to write this down. 636 00:26:37,572 --> 00:26:41,473 Just give Jason more work. You're developer. 637 00:26:40,393 --> 00:26:41,473 Yeah, I just don't understand. 638 00:26:41,473 --> 00:26:43,664 It's like, ~ wait. Okay, here we go. 639 00:26:43,664 --> 00:26:45,635 No, wait, seriously spend zero. 640 00:26:45,635 --> 00:26:48,897 So maybe I need to change my target CPA. 641 00:26:48,897 --> 00:26:52,038 it has been shown 14 times now. 642 00:26:49,042 --> 00:26:53,135 Yeah, change that. okay. 643 00:26:52,038 --> 00:26:54,540 So I think that means that my bid is too low. 644 00:26:53,135 --> 00:26:55,915 Yeah, yeah, yeah, raise that bit. 645 00:26:54,540 --> 00:26:58,766 I'm going to increase my bid to $120 because that's my daily budget. 646 00:26:59,455 --> 00:27:00,760 There you go. All right. Well, 647 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,347 have fun. you see an ad for context, 648 00:27:02,347 --> 00:27:03,985 take a screenshot of that stuff. 649 00:27:04,050 --> 00:27:05,050 And then don't 650 00:27:04,531 --> 00:27:07,518 click on it, but scroll down and find context and click on that. 651 00:27:07,518 --> 00:27:08,761 Please. 652 00:27:07,738 --> 00:27:08,738 That's it. That's it. 653 00:27:09,459 --> 00:27:11,420 So Google had like an Android event, 654 00:27:11,420 --> 00:27:13,011 not really an event this week, 655 00:27:13,011 --> 00:27:15,162 but it's like the Android 17 features. 656 00:27:15,162 --> 00:27:17,543 It's like a pre-IO. Google IOS next week. 657 00:27:17,543 --> 00:27:19,144 Jason's going to be there in person, 658 00:27:19,144 --> 00:27:21,085 so he'll be reporting on the ground. 659 00:27:21,085 --> 00:27:25,708 But they talked about all the new features coming to Android specifically this week. 660 00:27:25,708 --> 00:27:28,089 And I want to get to that. But before we do, 661 00:27:28,089 --> 00:27:32,632 I also want to show that the Google book was teased. 662 00:27:32,632 --> 00:27:34,713 Now, if you remember... 663 00:27:35,471 --> 00:27:37,558 Google has made Chromebooks for a long time. 664 00:27:37,558 --> 00:27:39,855 There was high-end Google laptops, 665 00:27:39,855 --> 00:27:42,021 namely the Pixelbook. Did you ever have a Pixelbook? 666 00:27:42,021 --> 00:27:43,021 Did you ever play around with one? 667 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,255 No, mean, well, other than like at Best Buy, 668 00:27:45,255 --> 00:27:46,255 they used to sell them. 669 00:27:46,685 --> 00:27:51,448 Literally had a pixel book. I was working at a place where I could ask 670 00:27:51,448 --> 00:27:54,931 to have a laptop bought for me And I had a pixel book bought I have 671 00:27:54,931 --> 00:27:58,433 no idea where that thing went because I might have returned it Because 672 00:27:58,733 --> 00:28:01,175 it was not useful in my work specifically, 673 00:28:01,175 --> 00:28:05,648 but the hardware of the pixel book was spot-on I really liked the hardware. 674 00:28:05,648 --> 00:28:10,065 It was a great keyboard trackpad You know it was like Intel i7 you know 675 00:28:10,065 --> 00:28:13,723 it wasn't like the newer silicon you could use now But Google's gonna run it back, 676 00:28:13,723 --> 00:28:16,065 and they're gonna try and make another high-end laptop 677 00:28:16,505 --> 00:28:17,946 This time, instead of calling it the Pixelbook, 678 00:28:17,946 --> 00:28:23,640 it's the Google Book, which I feel like that name is not ideal. 679 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,012 It's kind of hard to say Google Book. 680 00:28:26,012 --> 00:28:27,099 You know what mean? 681 00:28:26,910 --> 00:28:27,910 Yeah, 682 00:28:27,391 --> 00:28:29,534 the name is well, I mean, it's very Google. 683 00:28:29,534 --> 00:28:30,886 Like literally, it's in the name, 684 00:28:30,886 --> 00:28:35,412 but also like Google is not. Every time I try to tell you about this Google 685 00:28:35,412 --> 00:28:37,745 hub nest Max Pro home thing I have, 686 00:28:36,613 --> 00:28:37,613 Re re re. 687 00:28:37,745 --> 00:28:39,608 I I literally have had this thing for years. 688 00:28:39,608 --> 00:28:40,649 I have no idea what it's called. 689 00:28:40,649 --> 00:28:41,649 So like 690 00:28:40,783 --> 00:28:41,783 Which also 691 00:28:41,203 --> 00:28:43,455 Google has a product called Google Books, 692 00:28:43,455 --> 00:28:45,757 which is buying books from Google. 693 00:28:44,449 --> 00:28:45,449 Right. 694 00:28:45,757 --> 00:28:47,248 And so now this is just Google Book, 695 00:28:47,248 --> 00:28:50,201 all one word, no camel case. Book is lowercase, 696 00:28:50,201 --> 00:28:52,923 so it's just Google Book, all one word. 697 00:28:52,923 --> 00:28:58,928 But it's now being pitched as hardware designed for Gemini Intelligence. 698 00:28:58,928 --> 00:29:03,131 And Google has now started calling their AI Gemini Intelligence, 699 00:29:03,131 --> 00:29:06,684 a la Apple Intelligence. And we're get more into some of the features that 700 00:29:06,684 --> 00:29:09,667 are coming to Android because of Gemini Intelligence. 701 00:29:10,085 --> 00:29:11,715 But they're going to try and do this again. 702 00:29:11,715 --> 00:29:13,906 They're going to say, yes, a high end laptop, 703 00:29:13,906 --> 00:29:18,277 a Google book is worth it because of Gemini intelligence and all the things that 704 00:29:18,277 --> 00:29:22,008 you can do with it, like custom widgets and running Android apps. 705 00:29:22,008 --> 00:29:27,390 And of course, it's Chrome and Google Docs and all the Google software and services. 706 00:29:27,390 --> 00:29:30,931 They didn't really show it like clearly. 707 00:29:30,931 --> 00:29:33,451 We kind of just have teased imagery. 708 00:29:33,451 --> 00:29:36,672 There's a teaser video and we see like up close shots of the keyboard, 709 00:29:36,672 --> 00:29:39,493 the trackpad. There's like a glowing Google colored 710 00:29:39,929 --> 00:29:44,950 light on the outside which looks kind of cool you know maybe kind of like trying 711 00:29:44,950 --> 00:29:48,570 to show like how Apple on the logo with a used to glow now we're gonna have 712 00:29:48,570 --> 00:29:53,850 a glowing Google book Google line or whatever so we'll see they're not have 713 00:29:53,850 --> 00:29:57,210 a ton of information on it but they're gonna try the high-end laptop thing again 714 00:29:57,210 --> 00:29:58,210 Google book 715 00:29:57,689 --> 00:29:58,689 I don't 716 00:29:58,109 --> 00:30:02,830 I do not understand this. I know, 717 00:30:00,366 --> 00:30:02,534 Google Book. Now I'm just kind of having fun saying it, 718 00:30:02,534 --> 00:30:05,384 but... Google Book. 719 00:30:02,830 --> 00:30:06,331 but I. Great, 720 00:30:06,331 --> 00:30:07,732 I still don't understand it anymore. 721 00:30:07,732 --> 00:30:09,132 You can say it as many times as you want. 722 00:30:09,132 --> 00:30:11,623 But so people did not buy Pixel. 723 00:30:11,623 --> 00:30:13,123 I mean, excuse me, Chromebooks, 724 00:30:13,123 --> 00:30:17,124 because they were amazing and they were premium. 725 00:30:17,124 --> 00:30:19,195 They did it because they were disposable. 726 00:30:19,195 --> 00:30:23,026 Like literally schools buy these things because when you break them, 727 00:30:19,748 --> 00:30:20,748 Correct. Correct. 728 00:30:23,026 --> 00:30:25,827 they cost less than feeding you for a year. 729 00:30:25,827 --> 00:30:27,107 You school lunches. 730 00:30:27,214 --> 00:30:28,738 Yes, that's correct. That's correct. 731 00:30:27,411 --> 00:30:29,853 like seriously, like they are just garbage. 732 00:30:28,738 --> 00:30:30,422 They're cheap. They're cheap. 733 00:30:29,853 --> 00:30:30,853 We have 734 00:30:30,483 --> 00:30:35,817 had so many Chromebooks and and my one of my daughters is using an into 735 00:30:35,817 --> 00:30:37,929 the last generation Intel MacBook Air. 736 00:30:37,929 --> 00:30:44,664 And it makes the Chromebook look like a dinosaur with arthritis that 737 00:30:44,664 --> 00:30:46,125 fell down and can't get back up. 738 00:30:46,125 --> 00:30:49,507 Like the Chromebooks are so bad, 739 00:30:46,618 --> 00:30:48,023 That's rough. That's pretty rough. 740 00:30:49,507 --> 00:30:51,309 but people buy them because they're super cheap. 741 00:30:51,098 --> 00:30:52,098 Super cheap, yeah. 742 00:30:51,309 --> 00:30:54,301 And if everything you need to do on a computer can be done in Chrome. 743 00:30:55,155 --> 00:30:57,717 which unfortunately is what most of us have to tolerate, 744 00:30:57,717 --> 00:30:59,999 then a Chromebook is fine for that. 745 00:30:59,999 --> 00:31:03,021 It's like fine if all you need to do is Gmail and Google Slides, 746 00:31:03,021 --> 00:31:05,613 which again is a depressing way to live. 747 00:31:05,613 --> 00:31:07,445 But a Chromebook is fine for you, 748 00:31:07,445 --> 00:31:09,607 but you didn't buy it because you're like, 749 00:31:09,607 --> 00:31:12,669 gosh, you know, this is a great machine. 750 00:31:12,669 --> 00:31:14,761 I just I really love this thing. 751 00:31:14,761 --> 00:31:17,143 And using Chrome is not a great experience. 752 00:31:17,143 --> 00:31:18,874 Like none of those things are wonderful. 753 00:31:18,874 --> 00:31:23,958 So now they're like, well, what if we just said that this is a AI laptop, 754 00:31:23,958 --> 00:31:24,958 which 755 00:31:25,171 --> 00:31:28,338 Then there's this weird dynamic where didn't Microsoft try that? 756 00:31:28,338 --> 00:31:29,570 And everyone was like, we don't want that. 757 00:31:29,570 --> 00:31:32,907 Copilot PCs was a real thing. And nobody cared. 758 00:31:31,138 --> 00:31:32,289 Yeah, that's real thing. Yeah, 759 00:31:32,289 --> 00:31:33,740 that is true. That is true. 760 00:31:32,907 --> 00:31:34,461 Literally nobody cared. 761 00:31:34,741 --> 00:31:37,722 I mean, I would maybe Google has a better shop because it's Google. 762 00:31:37,722 --> 00:31:41,145 But one of the big issues is to sell a premium laptop. 763 00:31:41,145 --> 00:31:43,967 I imagine this is going to cost over a thousand dollars. 764 00:31:43,967 --> 00:31:48,200 People expect it like when they buy an iPad that costs a thousand dollars 765 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,811 to do computer things. And historically, 766 00:31:50,811 --> 00:31:52,492 from my time working at Riverside, 767 00:31:52,492 --> 00:31:56,545 one of the issues we had is anytime someone was trying to do 768 00:31:56,545 --> 00:31:58,897 a Riverside recording and 769 00:31:59,297 --> 00:32:00,988 Like, you would go through the questions and be like, 770 00:32:00,988 --> 00:32:02,639 what browser are you using? We're using Chrome. 771 00:32:02,639 --> 00:32:04,510 Okay, great. Are you using a USB mic? 772 00:32:04,510 --> 00:32:08,983 Yes. Like, all the questions seemingly would be correct, 773 00:32:08,983 --> 00:32:10,655 and then they would say, ~ well, 774 00:32:10,655 --> 00:32:12,981 I'm using a Chromebook. And it was immediately like, 775 00:32:12,981 --> 00:32:18,860 ~ shoot. And... Or even a Windows PC, 776 00:32:14,047 --> 00:32:16,188 Yeah, throw it away and go buy a MacBook Neo. 777 00:32:18,860 --> 00:32:21,932 because even those, you could connect a USB mic and Riverside could do its, 778 00:32:21,932 --> 00:32:24,414 like, recording to the browser cache and all of that. 779 00:32:24,414 --> 00:32:28,877 So, it remains to be seen if you buy this expensive Google Book. 780 00:32:29,163 --> 00:32:32,836 Will be able to do computer things like connecting an audio interface 781 00:32:32,836 --> 00:32:36,088 and recording a podcast You know people like doing Jason recording podcast people 782 00:32:36,088 --> 00:32:40,041 love recording podcast people like doing video calls and using fancy microphones 783 00:32:40,041 --> 00:32:43,823 and stuff And so like can this expensive laptop do that stuff so that remains 784 00:32:43,823 --> 00:32:48,677 to be seen? Yeah, I don't feel like Pitching it as an entire like 785 00:32:48,677 --> 00:32:53,393 an AI device Okay You know you can do a lot of AI stuff on your Mac 786 00:32:53,393 --> 00:32:56,665 now to like Claude You can give Claude cork full control of your Mac 787 00:32:56,821 --> 00:32:57,821 Right. 788 00:32:57,131 --> 00:32:58,953 And I don't know what Gemini intelligence, 789 00:32:58,953 --> 00:33:04,059 what advantage it's going to have on a Google book as opposed to cloud code 790 00:33:04,059 --> 00:33:05,681 or co-work on a Mac. But we'll see. 791 00:33:05,681 --> 00:33:07,383 I'm interested in the hardware. 792 00:33:06,881 --> 00:33:07,881 Yeah, 793 00:33:07,621 --> 00:33:11,584 I just don't understand what they think the market is for this because there 794 00:33:11,584 --> 00:33:14,045 has not been any other than like nerds. 795 00:33:14,045 --> 00:33:17,507 There's not an abundance of people out there like I would like AI on my computer, 796 00:33:17,507 --> 00:33:21,109 right? Like, in fact, we just talked about like the younger people are like, 797 00:33:21,109 --> 00:33:23,190 get the AI the F away from me. 798 00:33:22,501 --> 00:33:23,501 Yeah. 799 00:33:23,190 --> 00:33:25,011 Like it's just I don't want any of this. 800 00:33:25,011 --> 00:33:28,573 And so I don't think that this is going to be the direction that makes 801 00:33:28,573 --> 00:33:32,885 a lot of sense. I think that we the Apple has proven that what people really want 802 00:33:32,885 --> 00:33:35,757 is an inexpensive computer that is not garbage. 803 00:33:36,137 --> 00:33:38,758 And so they just make Chrome, and this isn't even gonna run Chrome, 804 00:33:38,758 --> 00:33:39,953 it's gonna basically run Android. 805 00:33:40,867 --> 00:33:44,697 Right, they say Chrome OS, but I'm not even sure what Chrome OS is today. 806 00:33:44,735 --> 00:33:45,735 I don't know, but it's like 807 00:33:45,516 --> 00:33:49,420 it'll just run your Android apps that are on your phone if you if 808 00:33:49,420 --> 00:33:51,032 you don't even download them. And I'm like, 809 00:33:51,032 --> 00:33:52,954 I don't know what that even means. 810 00:33:51,545 --> 00:33:54,222 I mean, it could be like iPhone mirroring, 811 00:33:52,954 --> 00:33:56,238 But like, yeah, and which is fine, 812 00:33:54,222 --> 00:33:55,222 like on the Mac now. 813 00:33:56,238 --> 00:33:58,661 but it's not the primary way I want to use any app. 814 00:33:59,035 --> 00:34:03,315 No, I will say anytime I see a notification on my Mac and I click 815 00:34:03,315 --> 00:34:06,555 it just reactively and it opens iPhone mirroring, 816 00:34:06,555 --> 00:34:07,815 I immediately quit and I say, no, 817 00:34:07,815 --> 00:34:09,675 stop. I don't want to do that. 818 00:34:09,675 --> 00:34:12,447 I actually don't. Do you ever use iPhone mirroring on your Macs? 819 00:34:12,321 --> 00:34:14,084 ~ 820 00:34:14,084 --> 00:34:17,348 Yes, the only time I use iPhone mirroring is when I'm too lazy to find 821 00:34:17,348 --> 00:34:21,203 my phone and I need the two factor code and I open Microsoft Authenticutter. 822 00:34:20,061 --> 00:34:24,431 from the Microsoft Authentic? ~ I 823 00:34:21,203 --> 00:34:24,157 Yep, that's it. It's only time I do it. 824 00:34:25,096 --> 00:34:26,457 don't have to have that use case, 825 00:34:26,457 --> 00:34:30,260 but if I did, I would get that. 826 00:34:27,123 --> 00:34:29,204 That's it. That's the only time I ever use it. 827 00:34:30,260 --> 00:34:33,353 This is not iPhone mirroring, but the other feature I do like is if there's 828 00:34:33,353 --> 00:34:36,646 a live activity, like an Instacart delivery, 829 00:34:36,646 --> 00:34:40,089 and I can get the live activity on my Mac in the menu bar, 830 00:34:40,089 --> 00:34:43,892 that's cool. Correct, that's not iPhone mirroring. 831 00:34:41,227 --> 00:34:42,617 but you don't have open the app to do that. 832 00:34:42,617 --> 00:34:44,268 It just does it automatically. 833 00:34:43,892 --> 00:34:45,414 It's just a continuity feature. 834 00:34:44,268 --> 00:34:47,319 just, yeah, it just does it. The 835 00:34:47,319 --> 00:34:50,310 main, well, the reason I don't think this is gonna be like a great experience 836 00:34:50,310 --> 00:34:52,901 for people is if you've used iPhone mirroring, 837 00:34:52,901 --> 00:34:57,543 it takes like 45 minutes for it to open and to boot up and to do its thing. 838 00:34:57,543 --> 00:34:59,523 And I understand the reasons why it's like, 839 00:34:58,447 --> 00:35:01,682 Yeah, it's streaming video. 840 00:34:59,523 --> 00:35:01,704 whatever, but I'm just like, I'm like, 841 00:35:01,704 --> 00:35:03,835 by now I could have gone and found my phone. 842 00:35:04,247 --> 00:35:06,282 Yes, yeah, it is not a seamless, 843 00:35:06,282 --> 00:35:09,179 and that's why I can typically quit it before it even loads the home screen, 844 00:35:08,427 --> 00:35:09,427 Yeah. 845 00:35:09,179 --> 00:35:12,657 because it's trying to load. I should see if I could turn that off. 846 00:35:12,657 --> 00:35:14,201 There's probably a setting to turn off notifications. 847 00:35:13,021 --> 00:35:14,512 I will say building and running 848 00:35:14,512 --> 00:35:18,309 an app in Xcode in the simulator is faster than iPhone mirroring. 849 00:35:18,309 --> 00:35:20,732 It's pretty close. 850 00:35:18,604 --> 00:35:19,864 I don't know about that. Well, 851 00:35:19,864 --> 00:35:21,235 it depends. On the 852 00:35:21,235 --> 00:35:22,545 Mac Mini that I'm screen sharing too, 853 00:35:22,545 --> 00:35:24,465 it's slow, but that's a slow Mac Mini, 854 00:35:24,465 --> 00:35:29,407 anyway. All right, so we're gonna talk more about the reaction to AI because 855 00:35:29,547 --> 00:35:34,468 I found a video on social media of a college commencement and it's pretty telling. 856 00:35:34,468 --> 00:35:37,799 And plus Meta is trying a bunch of other weird features, 857 00:35:37,799 --> 00:35:40,649 both AI and Instagram instance, 858 00:35:40,649 --> 00:35:42,810 which is weird. But anyway, we're gonna get to all of that. 859 00:35:42,810 --> 00:35:44,350 But before we do, we have some friends to thank. 860 00:35:44,350 --> 00:35:46,891 And the first one is talking about meetings and maybe recording them, 861 00:35:46,891 --> 00:35:47,891 transcribing them. 862 00:35:47,797 --> 00:35:52,378 Granola. Granola is the way it's an AI notepad for people in back-to-back meetings. 863 00:35:52,378 --> 00:35:54,078 So if you have to do a ton of meetings, 864 00:35:54,078 --> 00:35:56,978 you know the struggle, you're trying to take notes, 865 00:35:56,978 --> 00:35:59,058 whether there's actually valuable information or not, 866 00:35:59,058 --> 00:36:02,518 but there's probably an action item that you need to take away from the meeting, 867 00:36:02,518 --> 00:36:03,918 and granola is going to help you do that. 868 00:36:03,918 --> 00:36:06,918 It's an AI powered notepad built for the way real people actually meet, 869 00:36:06,918 --> 00:36:08,378 and here's how it works. You take rough notes, 870 00:36:08,378 --> 00:36:10,298 you you could take your notes in bare, 871 00:36:10,298 --> 00:36:11,698 contextually, that's what you should be doing. 872 00:36:11,698 --> 00:36:12,998 You should be taking your notes in contextually. 873 00:36:12,428 --> 00:36:13,428 course. 874 00:36:12,998 --> 00:36:15,378 But granola will transcribe the meeting. 875 00:36:15,686 --> 00:36:16,987 turns everything into a clean, 876 00:36:16,987 --> 00:36:19,549 structured, actually useful notes when the meeting ends. 877 00:36:19,549 --> 00:36:22,071 And the best part, and this is what really sets Granola apart from 878 00:36:22,071 --> 00:36:25,033 lot of other services, it works with your device's audio. 879 00:36:25,033 --> 00:36:28,795 So it's not something that has to integrate with Google Meet or Zoom. 880 00:36:28,795 --> 00:36:32,498 It's just going to work seamlessly into whatever video conferencing tools 881 00:36:32,618 --> 00:36:34,710 you already use. If it's something proprietary, 882 00:36:34,710 --> 00:36:36,020 if it's something weird like WebEx, 883 00:36:36,020 --> 00:36:37,942 it'll work with all of that. There's no setup, 884 00:36:37,942 --> 00:36:42,325 no awkward bots. And you can actually listen instead of frantically typing every 885 00:36:42,325 --> 00:36:43,506 word and still walk away. 886 00:36:43,738 --> 00:36:45,819 knowing exactly what was decided. 887 00:36:45,819 --> 00:36:48,770 I've tried a lot of different apps that maybe record your meetings and 888 00:36:48,770 --> 00:36:52,141 do all this kind of stuff. Granola is one of the best and especially because 889 00:36:52,141 --> 00:36:54,522 it works on that like system level recording the audio, 890 00:36:54,522 --> 00:36:58,274 you don't have to think about whether it's compatible with whatever other virtual 891 00:36:58,274 --> 00:36:59,624 meeting platform you're using. 892 00:36:59,624 --> 00:37:01,265 So if meetings are eating up your day, 893 00:37:01,265 --> 00:37:05,267 Granola is a no-brainer. You can try it totally free for three months. 894 00:37:05,267 --> 00:37:08,228 Just head to granola.ai slash primary. 895 00:37:08,228 --> 00:37:13,230 That's granola.ai slash primary to get your time back and you get three months. 896 00:37:13,542 --> 00:37:17,422 for free at granola.ai slash primary. 897 00:37:17,422 --> 00:37:21,522 And thanks to Granola for sponsoring this episode and our friends at Anthropic, 898 00:37:21,522 --> 00:37:23,462 the makers of Claude. Yes, they're sponsoring this episode. 899 00:37:23,462 --> 00:37:26,462 They've not sponsored any other part of this episode where we're talking about them, 900 00:37:26,462 --> 00:37:27,462 but they're sponsoring this part. 901 00:37:27,302 --> 00:37:29,562 And I will say it is how, I mean, 902 00:37:29,562 --> 00:37:31,882 Jason literally wrote how Claude code help them build an app. 903 00:37:31,722 --> 00:37:33,825 Yeah, and by the way, I paid for it just to be clear. 904 00:37:31,882 --> 00:37:34,537 That's right, yeah. 905 00:37:33,825 --> 00:37:34,825 I paid for the Max 906 00:37:34,857 --> 00:37:36,279 whatever super version. 907 00:37:36,279 --> 00:37:39,150 Jason paid for it to help him buy up his app I want to talk about something 908 00:37:39,150 --> 00:37:43,932 I recently built with Claude namely a Lincoln bio site on my website I've built 909 00:37:43,932 --> 00:37:48,203 several parts of my own website now with Claude asking it to build like YouTube 910 00:37:48,203 --> 00:37:53,546 video Carousels on my home page asking it to redo my smart home web page I 911 00:37:53,546 --> 00:37:56,547 do a ton of stuff with Claude and I do a bunch of stuff with Claude co-work Which 912 00:37:56,547 --> 00:38:00,159 now has a great MCP for bare notes and fast mail 913 00:38:00,517 --> 00:38:04,588 I now have scheduled tasks in cowork where it looks through my email. 914 00:38:04,588 --> 00:38:07,859 It can read and not write. You you can choose what kind of permissions 915 00:38:07,859 --> 00:38:11,470 you give Claude cowork. And so it can look at my email and I tell it every 916 00:38:11,470 --> 00:38:14,871 day it runs a scheduled task. Find any email that looks like a sponsor. 917 00:38:14,871 --> 00:38:18,072 And because those are kind of hard to find in that mess of emails, 918 00:38:18,072 --> 00:38:23,133 draft an email to that. And now I can just go to my drafts folder in the mail 919 00:38:23,133 --> 00:38:26,814 app on my iPhone and I can see all the sponsors that have reached out that day. 920 00:38:26,814 --> 00:38:29,075 There's a draft email there from Claude and then I can 921 00:38:29,477 --> 00:38:33,568 You know edit the email attach whatever and it works great so schedule tasks 922 00:38:33,568 --> 00:38:37,039 and cloud co-work have great MCPs plus it can just natively connect 923 00:38:37,039 --> 00:38:41,110 to things like Gmail Google Docs I actually use it now to even crop 924 00:38:41,110 --> 00:38:45,762 the photos of the chapter artwork So I save a bunch of photos and now the 925 00:38:45,762 --> 00:38:49,162 way we do the show with Apple video in Apple podcasts I have to crop 926 00:38:49,162 --> 00:38:52,934 the photos as squares, but I wanted to focus on the subject I asked Claude Cork 927 00:38:52,934 --> 00:38:55,864 to do that. I literally pointed out a folder with a bunch of images I 928 00:38:55,864 --> 00:38:58,255 say hey crop all these images as a perfect square 929 00:38:58,618 --> 00:39:00,089 And Claude Cowork just does it. 930 00:39:00,089 --> 00:39:02,550 And I haven't looked at the script once this whole time, 931 00:39:02,550 --> 00:39:05,461 so I'm not... I think that was all personal experience and it's 932 00:39:05,461 --> 00:39:07,132 all features that you can do. Claude Cowork, 933 00:39:07,132 --> 00:39:09,043 Claude Code, it has all of that. 934 00:39:09,043 --> 00:39:10,574 Plus, I've been using Dispatch, 935 00:39:10,574 --> 00:39:14,955 which is pretty cool. You can basically message your Mac at home from 936 00:39:14,955 --> 00:39:16,657 the Claude app on your iPhone and say, 937 00:39:16,657 --> 00:39:19,939 hey, run this thing, do this, and Dispatch works great too. 938 00:39:19,939 --> 00:39:21,770 So that's all we've been doing. 939 00:39:21,770 --> 00:39:24,041 We just use Claude all the time. 940 00:39:24,041 --> 00:39:28,133 And so what you do is go to Claude.ai slash primary and check out Claude Pro. 941 00:39:28,315 --> 00:39:31,097 which includes access to all the features that I talked about in today's episode. 942 00:39:31,097 --> 00:39:33,228 I think Jason and I both pay for Macs, 943 00:39:33,228 --> 00:39:35,660 but that's just so get the higher token and you get more usage. 944 00:39:35,660 --> 00:39:37,121 But Pro has all those features. 945 00:39:37,121 --> 00:39:39,683 So if you're ready to have an AI that can tackle real work, 946 00:39:39,683 --> 00:39:44,960 try Claude. Co-work today, Claude.ai slash primary and check out Claude Pro. 947 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,868 That's Claude.ai slash primary. 948 00:39:46,868 --> 00:39:50,050 Our thanks to Anthropic and Claude for sponsoring this episode. 949 00:39:50,050 --> 00:39:53,292 And one more, we want to thank our friends at NordLayer. 950 00:39:53,292 --> 00:39:55,014 Look at this landing page, it's beautiful. 951 00:39:55,014 --> 00:39:57,075 It has primary technology listeners right there. 952 00:39:57,447 --> 00:40:02,738 promo code real big. NordLayer is network security platform for modern teams across 953 00:40:02,738 --> 00:40:07,000 different work environments. 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Risk free, 14-day money back guarantee. 984 00:41:35,727 --> 00:41:38,607 Now thanks to NordLayer for sponsoring this episode. 985 00:41:38,607 --> 00:41:40,847 Hey, guess what? 986 00:41:39,202 --> 00:41:40,202 Hey Stephen, guess what? 987 00:41:41,825 --> 00:41:48,432 Spark, my personal email app of choice now has a CLI and it works with Cloud Cowork. 988 00:41:47,623 --> 00:41:48,623 ~ 989 00:41:48,432 --> 00:41:51,746 So you don't have to only use your fast mail or your Gmail accounts. 990 00:41:51,746 --> 00:41:53,118 You can just use them all. 991 00:41:53,713 --> 00:41:56,965 That's pretty good. Listen, I'm using it a lot. 992 00:41:56,965 --> 00:41:58,866 I use it a lot. I'll just be real. 993 00:41:58,866 --> 00:42:00,257 I do a lot of scheduled tasks, 994 00:42:00,257 --> 00:42:03,536 too. But we'll get to the website I built in a minute, 995 00:42:03,536 --> 00:42:06,811 which is bio site. But I do want to mention the other Google I.O. 996 00:42:06,811 --> 00:42:11,183 Android 17 features. So MKBHD posted a video about the new features. 997 00:42:11,183 --> 00:42:14,365 I'll link his video. The Verge also had an article kind of running down 998 00:42:14,365 --> 00:42:17,323 all the new features. But Android 17, 999 00:42:17,323 --> 00:42:19,598 it has more Gemini intelligence. 1000 00:42:19,598 --> 00:42:20,598 There's that word again. 1001 00:42:20,903 --> 00:42:22,003 So there's going to be a lot more, 1002 00:42:22,003 --> 00:42:23,903 like a redesign of Gemini intelligence. 1003 00:42:23,903 --> 00:42:26,083 There's a lot more task automation. 1004 00:42:26,083 --> 00:42:32,683 I did a video with the Samsung Galaxy S26 Ultra talking about task automation where 1005 00:42:32,683 --> 00:42:34,203 you can literally use apps for you, 1006 00:42:34,203 --> 00:42:36,923 like use the Starbucks app, use the DoorDash app, 1007 00:42:36,923 --> 00:42:38,423 and it was actually decent. Well, 1008 00:42:38,423 --> 00:42:42,263 there's going to be more of that task automation coming in Android 17. 1009 00:42:42,263 --> 00:42:46,323 There's AI widgets where you can literally ask Gemini to make a custom widget. 1010 00:42:46,323 --> 00:42:48,171 Curious how many... 1011 00:42:48,411 --> 00:42:50,732 things you can ask it to do so that'll be, 1012 00:42:50,732 --> 00:42:52,453 remains to be seen, maybe you'll see some on Google I.O. 1013 00:42:52,453 --> 00:42:55,334 next week. They also have a thing called Pause Point. 1014 00:42:55,334 --> 00:43:00,216 So trying to help people with their digital well-being. 1015 00:43:00,216 --> 00:43:03,611 Pause Point, can literally tell Android 17, 1016 00:43:03,611 --> 00:43:06,498 listen, these apps, whether it's Instagram or TikTok, 1017 00:43:06,498 --> 00:43:09,820 these are distracting. And so whenever I go to open it, 1018 00:43:09,820 --> 00:43:15,452 start a timer, and you can even tell it to like show you nice pictures of your kids, 1019 00:43:15,452 --> 00:43:17,733 your family, or your pets or whatever. 1020 00:43:18,181 --> 00:43:20,892 And it'll be like, do you really want to open this app? 1021 00:43:20,892 --> 00:43:23,873 And do you really want to do a scroll right now? 1022 00:43:23,873 --> 00:43:25,633 So you can have your Android phone basically, 1023 00:43:25,633 --> 00:43:28,634 like, ~ not bully you, 1024 00:43:28,634 --> 00:43:32,686 not coerce, but gently guide you away from the app that you just tried to open, 1025 00:43:32,686 --> 00:43:35,557 I guess. That seems funny to me. 1026 00:43:34,978 --> 00:43:39,383 That's that's great. The things that we have 1027 00:43:35,557 --> 00:43:38,118 That's great. That's pause point. 1028 00:43:38,118 --> 00:43:39,338 ~ 1029 00:43:39,383 --> 00:43:42,186 built on top of our inability to just have self control. 1030 00:43:42,299 --> 00:43:44,100 You said it, Jason. That should be your book title. 1031 00:43:43,449 --> 00:43:46,755 I, that's a very long book title. 1032 00:43:44,100 --> 00:43:47,681 That's it. Well, 1033 00:43:47,681 --> 00:43:50,165 I mean, listen, I got one of your headlines over here and it's a very long, 1034 00:43:50,165 --> 00:43:52,957 well, sub headline. Totally, okay, 1035 00:43:50,990 --> 00:43:54,840 It's totally different. It's not printed with ink on a cover of a book. 1036 00:43:52,957 --> 00:43:56,419 sorry. That is true. ~ you know, 1037 00:43:56,419 --> 00:44:00,392 I got Joanna Stern's, ~ I'm Not a Robot book and I started reading it. 1038 00:44:00,392 --> 00:44:01,392 It's I should have brought it with me, 1039 00:44:01,383 --> 00:44:03,134 but it's on my nightstand because I was reading it. 1040 00:44:03,134 --> 00:44:05,256 Screen reactions, another feature. 1041 00:44:05,256 --> 00:44:08,928 This is something that TikTok and Instagram like lets you just do as 1042 00:44:08,928 --> 00:44:10,019 you record in the app. 1043 00:44:10,407 --> 00:44:13,267 But Android 17 will let you do just on the phone where you can kind 1044 00:44:13,267 --> 00:44:16,947 of have yourself as a cutout picture and picture over whatever else 1045 00:44:16,947 --> 00:44:20,187 is on your phone. Kind of cool that you could just do that because then 1046 00:44:20,187 --> 00:44:23,447 you can post it to all the social platforms and you don't have to like make 1047 00:44:23,447 --> 00:44:25,587 it in TikTok or make it in Instagram. 1048 00:44:25,587 --> 00:44:29,927 So that's screen reactions. AirDrop is coming to more Android devices. 1049 00:44:29,927 --> 00:44:32,507 Supposedly easier switching from iPhone, 1050 00:44:32,507 --> 00:44:36,647 although some of the parts of that switching requires an Android 17 device. 1051 00:44:36,647 --> 00:44:39,547 And so that will be coming once Android 17 comes out. 1052 00:44:40,147 --> 00:44:43,628 And, you know, Google has all the AI stuff like Gemini, 1053 00:44:43,628 --> 00:44:46,209 including that transcription type stuff. 1054 00:44:46,209 --> 00:44:48,509 And so they have a new feature called Rambler, 1055 00:44:48,509 --> 00:44:52,010 which is going to let you transcribe to your Android phone, 1056 00:44:52,010 --> 00:44:56,230 but then it's going to clean up the transcription by removing filler words like, 1057 00:44:56,230 --> 00:45:01,303 or ~ So you will have a clean transcription versus kind of the raw thing, 1058 00:45:01,303 --> 00:45:03,573 which is interesting. It's an interesting thing, 1059 00:45:03,573 --> 00:45:07,184 I guess, you know, but if you wanted to write an email or maybe write a blog post, 1060 00:45:07,184 --> 00:45:09,115 but you want to like dictate some of it on Android, 1061 00:45:09,115 --> 00:45:10,115 you can. 1062 00:45:09,967 --> 00:45:13,545 Start it here, it'll clean it up so you don't have filler words and then yeah, 1063 00:45:13,545 --> 00:45:15,493 there you go. That's cool. 1064 00:45:15,643 --> 00:45:19,939 Yeah, it's cool. mean, I'm looking forward to seeing how some of these things roll 1065 00:45:17,568 --> 00:45:18,568 We'll see. 1066 00:45:19,939 --> 00:45:22,934 out next week. A lot of times at Google I'll they'll have actual devices 1067 00:45:22,934 --> 00:45:25,367 you can play around with and stuff. 1068 00:45:24,127 --> 00:45:25,127 That's true. 1069 00:45:25,367 --> 00:45:26,367 So we'll see. 1070 00:45:26,254 --> 00:45:27,537 We'll see. Yeah, I'm excited to... 1071 00:45:27,537 --> 00:45:29,703 Are we going to... We should probably talk about this offline. 1072 00:45:29,703 --> 00:45:30,877 Are you going be able to record next week? 1073 00:45:31,303 --> 00:45:32,303 Yeah, it'll be fine. 1074 00:45:32,042 --> 00:45:33,073 You record from the plane? 1075 00:45:33,886 --> 00:45:34,886 I 1076 00:45:34,116 --> 00:45:35,409 will record from somewhere. Listen, 1077 00:45:35,409 --> 00:45:37,644 I have recorded a lot of places for this show, 1078 00:45:37,613 --> 00:45:40,648 That is true. That is true. Thank 1079 00:45:37,644 --> 00:45:40,563 Stephen. I will not let you down now. 1080 00:45:40,648 --> 00:45:42,801 you. Thank you. I've recorded in several hotel rooms, 1081 00:45:42,801 --> 00:45:46,887 one over when I did the NASA launch and podcast conferences. 1082 00:45:47,273 --> 00:45:48,273 I think I've recorded 1083 00:45:48,025 --> 00:45:50,640 twice from Portugal, once from Denmark, 1084 00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:54,308 once from CES live with Stephen. 1085 00:45:51,417 --> 00:45:52,417 There you go. 1086 00:45:54,529 --> 00:45:56,284 Yeah, we did. Live from the show floor. 1087 00:45:56,284 --> 00:45:57,284 We finally did it. 1088 00:45:57,333 --> 00:46:01,282 We did that and then we also did live from a table in the hotel room. 1089 00:46:00,599 --> 00:46:02,930 in the hotel room, but we didn't release that video because it didn't look great. 1090 00:46:01,282 --> 00:46:05,031 ~ that's right. Well, we still recorded there. 1091 00:46:02,930 --> 00:46:05,600 We did record that video. We did, 1092 00:46:05,031 --> 00:46:06,031 Yeah. 1093 00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,252 yeah, we still recorded it. All right, 1094 00:46:07,252 --> 00:46:08,822 that was all the Google news. Now, 1095 00:46:08,822 --> 00:46:12,994 some other small AI things. Amazon is moving Alexa into 1096 00:46:12,994 --> 00:46:14,715 its Amazon shopping experience. 1097 00:46:14,715 --> 00:46:17,206 If you've gone into the Amazon app or shopped online, 1098 00:46:17,206 --> 00:46:19,087 you know that there's like the Rufus AI, 1099 00:46:19,087 --> 00:46:21,708 which is like the dog, which I'm not sure the history of that. 1100 00:46:21,708 --> 00:46:24,659 There's like a lot of dog-related stuff in Amazon. 1101 00:46:24,659 --> 00:46:26,700 if you don't, if a page doesn't load, 1102 00:46:26,700 --> 00:46:29,891 there's like the dog, sorry, come back later or whatever. 1103 00:46:30,317 --> 00:46:33,278 but they're replacing Rufus by Rufus with Alexa, 1104 00:46:33,278 --> 00:46:35,589 which makes sense. mean, Alexa is Amazon's AI, 1105 00:46:35,589 --> 00:46:39,141 just put it there. But it can also do some cool things, 1106 00:46:39,141 --> 00:46:42,982 like if you want to watch the pricing of an item, 1107 00:46:42,982 --> 00:46:47,104 the Alexa in the Amazon app will be able to give you price alerts. 1108 00:46:47,104 --> 00:46:51,576 And you can even tell it things like add this to my cart when the price falls below 1109 00:46:51,576 --> 00:46:55,267 a certain amount, which that feels like actually useful AI tools. 1110 00:46:55,267 --> 00:46:57,428 don't know if calling it AI feels like a little, 1111 00:46:57,428 --> 00:46:59,249 a little gracious. I mean, it's basically 1112 00:46:59,647 --> 00:47:03,269 computer watching the price and then adding to cart when it hits a number like 1113 00:47:03,083 --> 00:47:04,083 Yeah. 1114 00:47:03,851 --> 00:47:05,155 if this is artificial intelligence, 1115 00:47:05,155 --> 00:47:06,155 I mean, okay 1116 00:47:05,577 --> 00:47:06,577 This 1117 00:47:05,817 --> 00:47:07,570 is I wrote this article three years ago. 1118 00:47:07,570 --> 00:47:10,044 It's just computers doing computer things. 1119 00:47:09,138 --> 00:47:10,700 It's 1120 00:47:10,700 --> 00:47:11,721 computer doing computer things, 1121 00:47:11,721 --> 00:47:16,577 but a cool computer thing and yeah great that it's actually built in and 1122 00:47:13,792 --> 00:47:14,792 Yeah. 1123 00:47:16,577 --> 00:47:20,672 so yeah I mean I've been using like change detection.io with push cuts 1124 00:47:20,672 --> 00:47:24,687 to do this kind of stuff But now you can maybe do it directly in Amazon, 1125 00:47:24,687 --> 00:47:28,041 so it'll be a better AI experience Yeah 1126 00:47:26,731 --> 00:47:28,122 But for real, actually 1127 00:47:28,122 --> 00:47:31,053 think, so I just had this experience recently, 1128 00:47:31,053 --> 00:47:34,975 right? Putting out an app. My app is not on par with amazon.com. 1129 00:47:31,651 --> 00:47:32,799 Yes. Yeah. 1130 00:47:34,975 --> 00:47:39,227 Let's just be clear. But well, 1131 00:47:37,591 --> 00:47:38,914 Design wise, I would say it's better. 1132 00:47:38,914 --> 00:47:39,914 Just throw that out there. 1133 00:47:39,227 --> 00:47:42,758 that 100%. But it's like, 1134 00:47:42,758 --> 00:47:44,949 what does Casey list is things like IMDB, 1135 00:47:44,949 --> 00:47:47,961 but made by somebody who was some self respect or something like that. 1136 00:47:47,961 --> 00:47:50,732 That's like, which is a great like conception. 1137 00:47:48,110 --> 00:47:50,187 That's right. Yes. Yeah. 1138 00:47:50,732 --> 00:47:53,033 But it's like, I actually was thinking 1139 00:47:53,899 --> 00:47:55,190 there are features in the app. 1140 00:47:55,190 --> 00:47:57,791 There's at least one feature in the app that uses Apple intelligence. 1141 00:47:57,791 --> 00:48:02,393 And the only reason I tell you that is so that you know what's happening 1142 00:48:02,393 --> 00:48:04,323 to your information. And it's happening on a device. 1143 00:48:04,323 --> 00:48:10,106 And there is the option to opt into using OpenAI for that feature if 1144 00:48:10,106 --> 00:48:12,647 you have like really long notes that would just be better handled 1145 00:48:12,647 --> 00:48:15,158 by something more powerful than Apple intelligence. 1146 00:48:15,158 --> 00:48:19,440 But, and that's opt in, it won't send in your data unless you choose that. 1147 00:48:17,837 --> 00:48:18,837 Yeah. 1148 00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:22,431 But my point is I try to not make a 1149 00:48:22,561 --> 00:48:27,161 big deal about the fact that there's AI happening because it's like, 1150 00:48:26,061 --> 00:48:27,061 Right. 1151 00:48:27,161 --> 00:48:29,801 no, this is just something that this app should just do. 1152 00:48:29,801 --> 00:48:32,941 It's not like a marketing buzzword. 1153 00:48:32,941 --> 00:48:37,281 So it's like, wish that companies would just stop trying to push the AI 1154 00:48:37,281 --> 00:48:40,261 and just be like, no, you know what the logical feature here is? 1155 00:48:40,261 --> 00:48:43,801 You're looking for a thing. We could just ping you when it's available. 1156 00:48:44,601 --> 00:48:46,761 One of the things in Joanna Stern's book, 1157 00:48:46,761 --> 00:48:52,861 The Intro, she talks about how tech CEOs were talking about AI from like 2018 1158 00:48:52,861 --> 00:48:57,601 to 2021, kind of before the Chachapi tea revolution came out. 1159 00:48:57,601 --> 00:49:00,901 And all the CEOs were extremely bullish. 1160 00:49:00,901 --> 00:49:05,121 And even after Chachapi tea went wild and all of that, 1161 00:49:05,121 --> 00:49:07,781 mean, Satya Nadella and Microsoft, 1162 00:49:07,781 --> 00:49:09,408 Bill Gates, obviously Sam O'Neill, 1163 00:49:09,408 --> 00:49:11,048 they were all talking about how like, 1164 00:49:11,048 --> 00:49:13,208 oh, 80 % of jobs will be gone in five years. 1165 00:49:13,816 --> 00:49:16,837 And Sam, you know, they would talk about artificial general intelligence a bunch. 1166 00:49:16,837 --> 00:49:20,499 And in retrospect, just looking back at those comments just a couple years later, 1167 00:49:20,499 --> 00:49:25,501 it's so clear like, no, I don't think that's going to happen. 1168 00:49:25,501 --> 00:49:29,382 And I even, I found this ~ Instagram account. 1169 00:49:29,382 --> 00:49:33,094 It's this guy basically asking the voice assistant Chachapiti to 1170 00:49:33,094 --> 00:49:36,335 do things and realizing how silly it is. 1171 00:49:36,335 --> 00:49:39,736 It would ask it like how many E's are in the word 17. 1172 00:49:39,736 --> 00:49:42,878 And it would get it wrong. It would say there's three E's when there's really four. 1173 00:49:43,576 --> 00:49:45,436 But then he would go further and he would say, 1174 00:49:45,436 --> 00:49:46,796 you know, actually I just counted them. 1175 00:49:46,796 --> 00:49:48,956 There's actually five E's in the word 17. 1176 00:49:48,956 --> 00:49:50,996 And ChatGPT will just agree with him. 1177 00:49:50,996 --> 00:49:53,236 And then sometimes it'll try to correct. 1178 00:49:51,584 --> 00:49:52,584 you 1179 00:49:53,236 --> 00:49:54,716 And then it would ask it like, 1180 00:49:54,716 --> 00:49:58,416 say the word click 65 times. I need to click a button 65 times. 1181 00:49:58,416 --> 00:49:59,836 I don't want you to count it out for me. 1182 00:49:59,836 --> 00:50:01,861 ChatGPT voice mode will like refuse to do it. 1183 00:50:01,861 --> 00:50:03,201 I asked it too. And it was like, 1184 00:50:03,201 --> 00:50:04,721 I'm not doing that. That's too repetitive. 1185 00:50:04,721 --> 00:50:06,441 It's like, oh, excuse me, ChatGPT. 1186 00:50:06,441 --> 00:50:07,621 I didn't know you're too good for that. 1187 00:50:07,621 --> 00:50:10,721 did it. Yeah, I didn't know that standard. 1188 00:50:08,375 --> 00:50:09,683 I didn't know you had standards. 1189 00:50:10,721 --> 00:50:11,721 I asked Claude. 1190 00:50:12,087 --> 00:50:15,320 To be honest, Claude did it. He just said the word click 65 times without 1191 00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:16,801 any pushback, so there's that. 1192 00:50:16,801 --> 00:50:22,455 But just like sometimes when you hit the edges of what these things are capable of, 1193 00:50:22,455 --> 00:50:25,508 you realize like, ~ I think we're still safe for a while. 1194 00:50:25,508 --> 00:50:27,089 I think we're good. I think we're good. 1195 00:50:25,929 --> 00:50:26,929 Yeah. 1196 00:50:27,290 --> 00:50:30,973 Yeah. And I feel like the I don't know. 1197 00:50:30,973 --> 00:50:33,976 We're safe for a while. But I just think about like, 1198 00:50:33,976 --> 00:50:38,710 why is watching when an item 1199 00:50:38,710 --> 00:50:43,687 is available an AI feature? Amazon knows when an item is available. 1200 00:50:43,687 --> 00:50:46,569 It has a big giant database that says items available seven. 1201 00:50:46,569 --> 00:50:49,001 Right. And like, it's like, as soon as that number is not zero, 1202 00:50:49,001 --> 00:50:51,924 just send me an email. Like, that's not an AI feature. 1203 00:50:52,278 --> 00:50:55,341 Right, computers have been able to do that for a very long time. 1204 00:50:55,341 --> 00:50:59,271 It's not a complicated thing. You don't need something quote watching this. 1205 00:50:59,271 --> 00:51:02,187 Why do I keep doing the fake? I'm so sorry. 1206 00:51:02,187 --> 00:51:05,620 But it's like, why would I? Look, 1207 00:51:02,286 --> 00:51:03,286 That's it. 1208 00:51:05,620 --> 00:51:07,355 I don't need this is not an AI features. 1209 00:51:07,355 --> 00:51:10,284 What I'm trying to say. And if they're making an AI features just because they want 1210 00:51:08,202 --> 00:51:09,202 Yeah, yeah. 1211 00:51:10,284 --> 00:51:11,535 to say they have an AI feature, 1212 00:51:11,535 --> 00:51:14,428 this is just a database monitoring feature. 1213 00:51:11,540 --> 00:51:12,540 Absolutely. 1214 00:51:15,072 --> 00:51:20,014 Yeah, and when it can parse long strings of whatever, 1215 00:51:20,014 --> 00:51:22,134 of what I'm saying, like I saw, 1216 00:51:22,134 --> 00:51:24,175 think one of the things that talked about Gemini intelligence, 1217 00:51:24,175 --> 00:51:28,036 like you can say, remind me to do this at this time and add this thing 1218 00:51:28,036 --> 00:51:30,077 to my calendar and it can do both things. 1219 00:51:30,077 --> 00:51:33,598 And I'm like, okay, well that's feels like a low bar, 1220 00:51:33,598 --> 00:51:36,329 but sure. That's cool. That's cool. 1221 00:51:34,304 --> 00:51:37,209 Yeah, exactly. Feels like a very low bar. 1222 00:51:36,329 --> 00:51:41,640 guess. Speaking of low bars, here's some new features from Meta. 1223 00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:43,921 Mark Zuckerberg posted on threads. 1224 00:51:44,311 --> 00:51:49,162 just couple days ago, they're launching incognito chat with Meta AI. 1225 00:51:49,162 --> 00:51:52,023 And so you can download the Meta AI app, 1226 00:51:52,023 --> 00:51:53,844 which apparently I had never downloaded I guess. 1227 00:51:53,844 --> 00:51:57,064 You need the Meta AI app if you use like Meta Ray Bans and stuff. 1228 00:51:57,064 --> 00:52:01,045 And so you might see like your favorite creators uses Meta AI. 1229 00:52:01,045 --> 00:52:02,356 It's probably because they have the glasses. 1230 00:52:02,356 --> 00:52:04,766 I don't think they're just using this app like ChatGPT. 1231 00:52:04,766 --> 00:52:07,697 But Meta AI is there and now you can do incognito chat, 1232 00:52:07,697 --> 00:52:11,568 which Mark Zuckerberg says, your entire conversation is end to end encrypted 1233 00:52:11,568 --> 00:52:12,969 if you go into incognito chat, 1234 00:52:12,969 --> 00:52:14,059 not even Meta. 1235 00:52:14,455 --> 00:52:17,466 can see the conversation and nothing is stored, 1236 00:52:17,466 --> 00:52:23,487 which apparently if you do like incognito chat in chat GPT and or Claude, 1237 00:52:23,487 --> 00:52:28,589 those chats still sit on servers from seven days to 30 days depending 1238 00:52:28,589 --> 00:52:35,081 on the service. So Zuckerberg is trying to say like their privacy focus like these 1239 00:52:35,081 --> 00:52:38,652 chats, we can't see it at all and then encrypted and we don't save them 1240 00:52:38,652 --> 00:52:42,765 on our servers at all. So have your incognito chat with Meta AI. 1241 00:52:42,765 --> 00:52:43,943 What could go wrong? 1242 00:52:44,086 --> 00:52:48,909 I do feel like there's been several court cases where there's been unfortunate 1243 00:52:49,029 --> 00:52:52,532 situations where a young person has used chat GPT or other chat bots 1244 00:52:52,532 --> 00:52:54,773 and ended up hurting themselves because of what it said. 1245 00:52:54,773 --> 00:52:57,115 I feel like having this incognito chat, 1246 00:52:57,115 --> 00:53:00,147 one, maybe it's like for meta side, 1247 00:53:00,147 --> 00:53:01,886 they would not be liable because they're like, 1248 00:53:01,886 --> 00:53:03,399 we don't have access to the chats at all. 1249 00:53:03,399 --> 00:53:07,031 But I also feel like this is not for good reasons, 1250 00:53:07,031 --> 00:53:08,031 right? 1251 00:53:07,783 --> 00:53:08,783 I feel 1252 00:53:08,173 --> 00:53:11,606 like this is like a new bakery opened up and they're like, 1253 00:53:11,606 --> 00:53:14,839 we have the best donuts. In fact, 1254 00:53:14,839 --> 00:53:17,302 they're so good and we want you to have them that you can come in 1255 00:53:17,302 --> 00:53:19,573 and we'll close our eyes and you can just take whatever you want. 1256 00:53:19,573 --> 00:53:22,076 It's like, why are you doing this? 1257 00:53:20,270 --> 00:53:23,084 ~ It seems that, 1258 00:53:22,076 --> 00:53:25,609 Like this is like the only reason they're doing this is like. 1259 00:53:25,771 --> 00:53:29,071 the donuts taste really bad and no one was coming into the store to use it. 1260 00:53:29,071 --> 00:53:33,013 So like, well, what if we just pretended like you weren't here while you were here? 1261 00:53:33,013 --> 00:53:37,995 The most annoying thing is when you open Instagram and it's like, 1262 00:53:37,995 --> 00:53:40,296 you have some notifications and you tap on it and it's like, 1263 00:53:40,296 --> 00:53:41,805 Steven Robles is using Meta AI. 1264 00:53:41,805 --> 00:53:45,337 I'm like, Steven Robles is not using Meta AI. 1265 00:53:43,690 --> 00:53:46,057 I'm not. If you see the notifications. 1266 00:53:45,337 --> 00:53:49,779 I know Steven Robles and I promise you he's not. 1267 00:53:50,103 --> 00:53:51,103 I am not. 1268 00:53:50,315 --> 00:53:51,315 Did he 1269 00:53:50,665 --> 00:53:55,117 download the app? Maybe, but I guarantee you he's not using it. 1270 00:53:52,886 --> 00:53:53,886 I doubt it. 1271 00:53:55,117 --> 00:53:56,817 And if what you're saying is he used it, 1272 00:53:56,817 --> 00:53:59,748 is you open the search on Instagram and type something in, 1273 00:53:59,748 --> 00:54:02,519 which is by the way, now an option for MetaAI, 1274 00:54:02,519 --> 00:54:05,330 you're making a leap that's too far here, 1275 00:54:02,637 --> 00:54:03,637 Yes. 1276 00:54:05,330 --> 00:54:11,342 buddy. He's not using it. And so they just are so consumed with the idea that people 1277 00:54:05,730 --> 00:54:06,730 That's exactly right. 1278 00:54:11,342 --> 00:54:13,983 have to be using their AI. And the only reason is... 1279 00:54:14,657 --> 00:54:18,832 They just, all of these companies think of our attention as a zero sum game. 1280 00:54:18,832 --> 00:54:20,774 And in some ways it is, but as a human, 1281 00:54:20,774 --> 00:54:23,607 I don't want to spend all of my time in one app. 1282 00:54:23,607 --> 00:54:25,199 I'm okay with the fact that I have, 1283 00:54:25,199 --> 00:54:27,161 I go outside every once in a while. 1284 00:54:27,161 --> 00:54:29,984 I go outside every time I walk from my office to the house, 1285 00:54:27,736 --> 00:54:31,249 You touch grass. That's it. That's it. 1286 00:54:29,984 --> 00:54:32,477 right? And it's like, I don't need meta AI for that. 1287 00:54:32,831 --> 00:54:35,373 And the example that Zuck uses in this image, 1288 00:54:35,373 --> 00:54:37,775 someone's asking Meta AI in incognito mode, 1289 00:54:37,775 --> 00:54:40,918 how do I talk to my roommates about splitting household costs? 1290 00:54:40,918 --> 00:54:44,836 I don't know why that's so private that you don't want Meta to ask. 1291 00:54:44,836 --> 00:54:47,298 Although, to play my own devil's advocate, 1292 00:54:47,298 --> 00:54:50,902 it is sometimes creepy when you have these kinds of conversations with, 1293 00:54:50,902 --> 00:54:53,534 I feel like Gemini does it the most. 1294 00:54:54,037 --> 00:54:58,269 where it will use past context and conversations to then like throw 1295 00:54:58,269 --> 00:55:01,521 in random facts in later requests and ask like, 1296 00:55:01,521 --> 00:55:04,137 as someone who uses a Sony a7 IV, 1297 00:55:04,137 --> 00:55:08,094 did you want, like it'll just throw that in to like kind of prove that 1298 00:55:08,094 --> 00:55:10,806 it knows me well and I don't like those. 1299 00:55:10,806 --> 00:55:14,258 And so maybe it's trying to get around that aversion but no one's using MetaEye 1300 00:55:13,447 --> 00:55:14,768 Yeah, maybe maybe 1301 00:55:14,258 --> 00:55:15,258 for this. 1302 00:55:14,768 --> 00:55:16,690 you open it one the next time and you're like, 1303 00:55:16,690 --> 00:55:18,729 let's you're sitting down with your roommate and you're like, 1304 00:55:18,729 --> 00:55:22,025 let's see if we can find a Mac mini because they're super hard to find right now. 1305 00:55:22,025 --> 00:55:24,267 And it's like meta eyes responses like, 1306 00:55:24,267 --> 00:55:28,111 I found one and maybe you can get your stingy roommate to front half of the cost. 1307 00:55:28,108 --> 00:55:30,369 Exactly. Yeah, 1308 00:55:28,111 --> 00:55:29,573 And you're like, shoot, sorry. 1309 00:55:30,369 --> 00:55:31,909 yeah, yeah, probably would do that. 1310 00:55:31,909 --> 00:55:37,691 So that's the Meta AI incognito mode and then Meta also introduced Instance 1311 00:55:37,951 --> 00:55:41,432 for Instagram. This is both a new feature and an app. 1312 00:55:41,432 --> 00:55:45,233 It is a whole standalone app called Instagram Instance. 1313 00:55:45,233 --> 00:55:47,134 If you download the app, which I did, 1314 00:55:47,134 --> 00:55:50,015 along with Meta AI, just so I could talk about it on this podcast, 1315 00:55:50,015 --> 00:55:54,266 Instance are like, I'm actually going to do an instant of me recording this podcast 1316 00:55:54,266 --> 00:55:55,266 right now. 1317 00:55:55,424 --> 00:55:58,445 You basically take a picture and you send it and it disappears. 1318 00:55:58,445 --> 00:56:03,146 It only goes to friends, meaning people you follow on Instagram that also follow 1319 00:56:03,146 --> 00:56:06,917 you, and it is... whatever. 1320 00:56:06,917 --> 00:56:10,288 It's like a Snapchat thing because it disappears as soon as someone sees it. 1321 00:56:10,288 --> 00:56:12,709 People can react to it and like heart it or whatever. 1322 00:56:12,709 --> 00:56:18,080 It's in the DMs of Instagram, which I know Meta has said that like Instagram 1323 00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,441 DMs is where a lot of the activity on Instagram happens, 1324 00:56:20,441 --> 00:56:23,572 which as someone who uses many chat automations and 1325 00:56:23,946 --> 00:56:26,318 people comment asking for my shortcuts to download. 1326 00:56:26,318 --> 00:56:27,820 There are a lot of messages there, 1327 00:56:27,820 --> 00:56:30,583 a lot of messages that I don't look at because it's all automated, 1328 00:56:30,583 --> 00:56:33,646 but they're there and I know a lot of people do the mini chat stuff. 1329 00:56:33,646 --> 00:56:35,108 I don't know. I don't know why. 1330 00:56:35,108 --> 00:56:37,611 I guess this is Snapchat competition play, 1331 00:56:37,611 --> 00:56:38,852 like, ~ 1332 00:56:39,421 --> 00:56:43,132 Well, and the announcement was something like people are no longer focused 1333 00:56:43,132 --> 00:56:45,113 on their grid. And it's like, well, 1334 00:56:45,113 --> 00:56:48,543 that's because you stopped making it possible for people to post stuff 1335 00:56:47,688 --> 00:56:49,950 Right? Yes. 1336 00:56:48,543 --> 00:56:50,674 to their grid. You go to the hit. 1337 00:56:50,674 --> 00:56:54,135 First of all, you move the post button around all the time because 1338 00:56:54,135 --> 00:56:57,276 you think what you really came to Instagram to do is shop or something stupid like 1339 00:56:54,335 --> 00:56:55,335 Right. 1340 00:56:57,276 --> 00:56:59,827 that. It's like, no, stop moving the button around. 1341 00:56:57,767 --> 00:56:58,767 Right, right. 1342 00:56:59,827 --> 00:57:01,857 The reason no one's posting to the grid is they can't find the button 1343 00:57:01,857 --> 00:57:05,248 to post to their grid. Maybe maybe that makes me very Gen X fine. 1344 00:57:03,530 --> 00:57:04,530 Right. 1345 00:57:05,248 --> 00:57:07,949 But the other thing is you tap the button and it's like you wanted to post 1346 00:57:07,949 --> 00:57:08,949 a reel and you're like, no, 1347 00:57:09,021 --> 00:57:11,102 post a post, you definitely wanted to post a real. 1348 00:57:11,102 --> 00:57:13,202 No, I just want to share this video on my grid. 1349 00:57:11,176 --> 00:57:12,176 Right, right. 1350 00:57:13,202 --> 00:57:17,161 it's a video that's a real. So we're to post it as a real and then we're going 1351 00:57:17,161 --> 00:57:18,974 to share it beyond your scope of people. 1352 00:57:18,974 --> 00:57:22,876 It's like you created this like you set this house on fire and you're like, 1353 00:57:19,677 --> 00:57:21,832 Right. Right. 1354 00:57:22,876 --> 00:57:27,427 we have an idea about putting out this fire like just stop messing with the app. 1355 00:57:27,427 --> 00:57:29,438 This is stupid. I told you I was going to do this. 1356 00:57:29,438 --> 00:57:30,728 I told you I was gonna be grumpy about it. 1357 00:57:29,689 --> 00:57:30,820 You said you were gonna be grumpy. 1358 00:57:30,728 --> 00:57:32,019 This is so dumb. 1359 00:57:30,820 --> 00:57:31,820 That's fine. 1360 00:57:32,641 --> 00:57:37,603 It is a problem of their own creation because they're the ones, 1361 00:57:37,603 --> 00:57:41,506 Meta, pushed so hard on Reels that everything became Reels. 1362 00:57:41,506 --> 00:57:45,148 Like, when you reward the creation of a kind of content, 1363 00:57:45,148 --> 00:57:48,169 which Instagram rewards the creation of Reels, 1364 00:57:48,169 --> 00:57:50,110 Reels are gonna get more views, 1365 00:57:50,110 --> 00:57:51,911 they're algorithmically driven, 1366 00:57:51,911 --> 00:57:55,453 there's a greater possibility that your following will grow because 1367 00:57:55,453 --> 00:57:58,355 of Reels that you post versus a static image. 1368 00:57:59,059 --> 00:58:00,200 People are gonna post more of that. 1369 00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:03,965 Instagram changes the home tab to just show you reels now, 1370 00:58:03,965 --> 00:58:06,909 and you rarely see a post or carousel. 1371 00:58:06,909 --> 00:58:10,994 And so like, yeah, it's what they rewarded is now what's popular. 1372 00:58:10,994 --> 00:58:14,137 And to say they're solving the problem by adding something in the DMs, 1373 00:58:14,137 --> 00:58:15,278 I just don't know. 1374 00:58:15,069 --> 00:58:16,069 Well, and 1375 00:58:15,549 --> 00:58:18,350 here's the thing. They're like, 1376 00:58:18,350 --> 00:58:20,990 well, we have all this data so we can see how people are using it. 1377 00:58:20,990 --> 00:58:24,593 like, but you are putting your finger on the scale of how people use it. 1378 00:58:24,456 --> 00:58:25,456 Right, exactly. 1379 00:58:24,593 --> 00:58:27,765 So you can't, you can't look at that as a self-reinforcing. 1380 00:58:27,765 --> 00:58:31,185 It's like, I locked all the doors to my house and everyone's coming 1381 00:58:31,185 --> 00:58:32,257 in this one door. 1382 00:58:33,201 --> 00:58:35,383 So we should like do something about that door. 1383 00:58:33,471 --> 00:58:34,471 Right. 1384 00:58:35,383 --> 00:58:38,193 Like that should be the door. We should make that the entrance to our house. 1385 00:58:38,193 --> 00:58:39,938 It's like, no, you just locked all the other doors. 1386 00:58:39,938 --> 00:58:41,810 And so that's the only one people can use. 1387 00:58:40,403 --> 00:58:41,403 Yes. 1388 00:58:41,810 --> 00:58:44,693 The fact that people are using it doesn't mean that that's the one they want to use. 1389 00:58:44,693 --> 00:58:46,057 It doesn't mean that that's the best door. 1390 00:58:46,057 --> 00:58:48,316 It doesn't mean that there's anything good about it except for it's 1391 00:58:48,316 --> 00:58:53,601 the only one that's unlocked. And so I feel like you are interpreting signal that 1392 00:58:49,951 --> 00:58:50,951 That's right. 1393 00:58:53,601 --> 00:58:57,145 you have put out into the world as confirmation of what people want. 1394 00:58:55,262 --> 00:58:56,262 Yes. 1395 00:58:57,757 --> 00:58:59,848 when really what they want, and again, 1396 00:58:59,848 --> 00:59:02,741 I'm not arguing that DMs isn't the way most people use Instagram, 1397 00:59:02,741 --> 00:59:08,625 that's fine. I almost never use DMs in Instagram because similar to you, 1398 00:59:08,625 --> 00:59:10,527 it's either just like total noise, 1399 00:59:10,527 --> 00:59:14,900 right? Or I forget and I just don't want people to message me on Instagram. 1400 00:59:11,005 --> 00:59:12,005 Right, yes. 1401 00:59:14,900 --> 00:59:17,032 That's not the best way to do that. 1402 00:59:17,032 --> 00:59:20,174 And so, but I get that teenagers, 1403 00:59:20,174 --> 00:59:22,016 fine, DMs, that's the way that they do things. 1404 00:59:22,016 --> 00:59:23,657 This though, 1405 00:59:24,175 --> 00:59:27,083 is literally Mark Zuckerberg woke up a couple weeks ago, 1406 00:59:27,083 --> 00:59:28,306 looked over and he's like, wait a second, 1407 00:59:28,306 --> 00:59:30,211 Snapchat's still a thing? We gotta burn it to the ground. 1408 00:59:31,099 --> 00:59:34,561 And that is something Instagram has been historically great at, 1409 00:59:34,561 --> 00:59:37,962 which is stealing features from other things. 1410 00:59:37,962 --> 00:59:43,225 Reels were because of TikTok. Stories were originally because of Snapchat. 1411 00:59:43,225 --> 00:59:46,406 know, Snapchat had stories first and then Instagram did the stories. 1412 00:59:46,406 --> 00:59:51,959 So yeah, but they have the scale and teenagers will just keep going 1413 00:59:51,959 --> 00:59:53,410 to Instagram because that's the app. 1414 00:59:53,410 --> 00:59:56,091 That's where everybody is. And so just people go to it. 1415 00:59:56,231 --> 00:59:57,285 I don't know, friends, I mean, 1416 00:59:57,285 --> 01:00:01,660 not my friends, my children mostly just interact in Snapchat now. 1417 01:00:01,660 --> 01:00:02,994 Yeah. 1418 01:00:01,927 --> 01:00:03,755 Really? That's 1419 01:00:03,755 --> 01:00:04,755 interesting. 1420 01:00:05,703 --> 01:00:08,907 I think that that's true. My daughter made me install Snapchat because 1421 01:00:08,907 --> 01:00:10,855 she thought it'd be really cool if she could send me snaps. 1422 01:00:10,855 --> 01:00:13,993 And I'm like, I don't even know what any of those words mean. 1423 01:00:14,499 --> 01:00:17,113 I used Snapchat years ago and I was like, 1424 01:00:17,113 --> 01:00:18,545 this is clear. I'm too old for this. 1425 01:00:18,857 --> 01:00:19,957 But then it's like, 1426 01:00:19,977 --> 01:00:21,237 then all of a sudden it's like, 1427 01:00:21,237 --> 01:00:22,657 oh, here's all these people that you might know. 1428 01:00:22,657 --> 01:00:24,217 And it's like, how do you, why do think I know these people? 1429 01:00:24,217 --> 01:00:25,217 It's like, well, they're near you. 1430 01:00:25,117 --> 01:00:27,017 I'm like, why do you know where they are and where I am? 1431 01:00:26,565 --> 01:00:28,895 Right, right. The Snapchat map. 1432 01:00:27,017 --> 01:00:29,697 Like, hold on, you've gone way too far. 1433 01:00:28,895 --> 01:00:29,895 Which 1434 01:00:29,707 --> 01:00:31,939 is another feature that Instagram stole was the Instagram map. 1435 01:00:31,939 --> 01:00:33,620 And like if you don't turn off your location, 1436 01:00:33,620 --> 01:00:37,363 when you post stories, it has the location attached to the thing. 1437 01:00:36,233 --> 01:00:37,233 Yeah, I don't like any of it. 1438 01:00:37,363 --> 01:00:42,846 Yeah, yeah. anyway, speaking of people not liking AI and some of these features, 1439 01:00:42,846 --> 01:00:48,961 I've been, you know, I hear Neil Ipatel talk about Joanna Stern's new book about 1440 01:00:48,961 --> 01:00:52,533 the reaction to AI, especially from younger generations. 1441 01:00:52,533 --> 01:00:55,235 And I... 1442 01:00:55,466 --> 01:00:59,357 came across this video this is from Cable Sasser from Panic Software 1443 01:00:59,738 --> 01:01:02,589 he posted this video and I quickly realized this is actually 1444 01:01:02,589 --> 01:01:07,651 the University of Central Florida commencement which is a university I've literally 1445 01:01:07,651 --> 01:01:10,609 been to it's in Orlando near me I've been to their library got to 1446 01:01:10,609 --> 01:01:13,133 do research there when I was in college and so this is one 1447 01:01:13,133 --> 01:01:16,764 of the commencement speakers I just want to play real quick the reaction that 1448 01:01:16,764 --> 01:01:20,946 the audience has is the graduating class to the speaker talking about 1449 01:01:21,256 --> 01:01:23,747 AI so I'm going to try and play this clip so we can see it 1450 01:01:44,561 --> 01:01:48,553 So that clip was so interesting to me for a couple reasons. 1451 01:01:48,553 --> 01:01:51,715 One, I didn't expect booing at a commencement. 1452 01:01:51,715 --> 01:01:54,677 Like you have to have some strong feelings if you're going to boo 1453 01:01:55,137 --> 01:01:57,258 at a commencement speaker. And it doesn't seem like it was a guest speaker. 1454 01:01:57,258 --> 01:02:01,370 Like the person seemed like they were someone at University of Central Florida, 1455 01:02:01,370 --> 01:02:03,181 whether it was a faculty or administration or whatever. 1456 01:02:03,181 --> 01:02:05,923 So that was interesting. And second, 1457 01:02:05,923 --> 01:02:10,565 the total shock that she seemed to experience at that reaction, 1458 01:02:10,565 --> 01:02:13,187 as though she had no idea that it might happen. 1459 01:02:14,011 --> 01:02:17,199 I was like, that, maybe that's the picture right now. 1460 01:02:17,199 --> 01:02:23,825 It's like the AI makers and one generation or multiple generations thinking like, 1461 01:02:23,825 --> 01:02:26,787 AI is it. Like this is gonna be the thing. 1462 01:02:26,787 --> 01:02:29,359 And then everyone on the other side, 1463 01:02:29,359 --> 01:02:31,972 namely graduating class, Gen Z, 1464 01:02:31,972 --> 01:02:36,045 maybe younger, they're like literally booing the idea of AI. 1465 01:02:36,045 --> 01:02:38,497 And like to say that AI is the next industrial revolution, 1466 01:02:38,497 --> 01:02:40,793 if you would have said that like three years ago, 1467 01:02:41,389 --> 01:02:44,109 Maybe you could get away with that and it sounds reasonably smart. 1468 01:02:44,109 --> 01:02:48,049 I feel like now in 2026 that we see what AI is capable of. 1469 01:02:48,049 --> 01:02:49,969 AGI is becoming less and less of a thing. 1470 01:02:49,969 --> 01:02:53,389 Microsoft and OpenAI literally changed their deal and took AGI out 1471 01:02:53,389 --> 01:02:55,589 of the deal because it's probably not going to be a thing. 1472 01:02:55,589 --> 01:02:59,169 Feels like less of a reasonable thing to say in 2026, 1473 01:02:59,169 --> 01:03:01,809 but I don't know. That was surprising. 1474 01:03:02,227 --> 01:03:06,298 I think the most compelling thing about this is the point that Cable Sesser 1475 01:03:06,298 --> 01:03:07,628 was making when he shared this, 1476 01:03:07,628 --> 01:03:11,835 which is just the complete inability to know your audience. 1477 01:03:11,835 --> 01:03:15,596 if you are going to go and give a commencement speech, 1478 01:03:15,596 --> 01:03:19,267 your number one priority is to inspire the people in front of you, 1479 01:03:19,267 --> 01:03:22,948 which means you should have some understanding of who these people are. 1480 01:03:22,948 --> 01:03:25,819 Now, this speaker was not from the she was like a vice president 1481 01:03:25,819 --> 01:03:27,229 of development at some development, 1482 01:03:27,229 --> 01:03:29,700 like a strategic alliances at some development company. 1483 01:03:27,849 --> 01:03:30,373 Okay. Okay. 1484 01:03:30,506 --> 01:03:32,037 The point that he's making is like, 1485 01:03:32,037 --> 01:03:35,228 if you are so inside the bubble that you don't understand what people 1486 01:03:35,228 --> 01:03:36,879 on the outside of the bubble are thinking, 1487 01:03:36,879 --> 01:03:39,160 then you probably first of all shouldn't be giving a commencement speech 1488 01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:40,270 to the people on the outside of the bubble. 1489 01:03:40,270 --> 01:03:44,367 Like if you don't already know that college students with a burning passion hate 1490 01:03:44,587 --> 01:03:47,589 everything about AI, then first thing you probably should not 1491 01:03:47,589 --> 01:03:48,829 be giving commencement speeches. 1492 01:03:48,829 --> 01:03:51,750 You could have talked, she could have talked about this in a way that 1493 01:03:51,750 --> 01:03:53,811 was like reaching them at their level, 1494 01:03:53,811 --> 01:03:55,432 like acknowledging the fact that like, 1495 01:03:55,432 --> 01:03:57,873 look, this is a thing that's changing a lot. 1496 01:03:58,195 --> 01:04:00,226 And a lot of you have a lot of anxiety about it. 1497 01:04:00,226 --> 01:04:02,967 And there's there's going to be opportunities, 1498 01:04:02,967 --> 01:04:05,708 there's going to be changes that we haven't anticipated. 1499 01:04:05,708 --> 01:04:09,300 And it's a very scary world. And let me tell you how you should be inspired. 1500 01:04:09,300 --> 01:04:11,371 Like, you know, like, there's a way to address this. 1501 01:04:10,101 --> 01:04:11,101 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1502 01:04:11,371 --> 01:04:15,312 But it is so interesting. It's one of the things that you and I talked about, 1503 01:04:15,312 --> 01:04:18,273 our audience is probably leaning, 1504 01:04:18,273 --> 01:04:22,755 and biased towards enthusiasts of technology. 1505 01:04:22,755 --> 01:04:26,337 But if we get so focused on what people who 1506 01:04:27,105 --> 01:04:29,505 spend as much time with technology as we do, 1507 01:04:29,505 --> 01:04:31,225 then there's a whole lot of people out there. 1508 01:04:31,225 --> 01:04:34,305 Like my kids have Macs, they couldn't tell you what they are. 1509 01:04:34,305 --> 01:04:35,885 Like I think it's a Macbook, you know what mean? 1510 01:04:35,885 --> 01:04:38,145 It's a tool that they use, right? 1511 01:04:36,252 --> 01:04:38,460 sure, Right, right. 1512 01:04:38,145 --> 01:04:41,545 And so, I don't know, I just think this is really interesting because 1513 01:04:41,545 --> 01:04:45,965 it shows you the divide between the people who have a financial interest 1514 01:04:45,965 --> 01:04:50,505 in this stuff working out and the people who have a financial interest 1515 01:04:47,626 --> 01:04:48,626 Yeah, yeah. 1516 01:04:50,505 --> 01:04:52,389 in it just going away so I could get a job. 1517 01:04:53,321 --> 01:04:58,795 Okay, so my next question for you is why such like, 1518 01:04:58,795 --> 01:05:01,658 averse feelings towards AI from the younger generation? 1519 01:05:01,658 --> 01:05:05,461 Because in my mind, I think back to when I was in college, 1520 01:05:05,461 --> 01:05:09,344 the iPhone didn't exist, the iPad didn't exist, 1521 01:05:09,344 --> 01:05:12,306 I was carrying a bunch of heavy books to classes. 1522 01:05:12,306 --> 01:05:16,560 There was so much of the technology today that I feel like would have made 1523 01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:21,714 my college experience easier. From everything just simple ebooks to... 1524 01:05:22,378 --> 01:05:27,704 being able to summarize or record an entire lecture on my phone and then 1525 01:05:27,704 --> 01:05:30,426 get a summary in bullet points thanks to AI. 1526 01:05:30,426 --> 01:05:32,909 Whether that's complicated AI or not, 1527 01:05:32,909 --> 01:05:35,552 it's a feature you can do today that I couldn't do back then. 1528 01:05:35,552 --> 01:05:37,954 And I would have thought as a college student, 1529 01:05:37,954 --> 01:05:42,790 you could see those benefits. Is it because that's not really what they're reacting 1530 01:05:42,790 --> 01:05:45,082 to? What do you think that, what am I not getting here? 1531 01:05:45,833 --> 01:05:48,955 I think that there is a sense in Gen Z, 1532 01:05:48,955 --> 01:05:51,796 I think, I'm just throwing this out there, 1533 01:05:51,796 --> 01:05:56,059 that one, they value authenticity and they don't like artificial stuff, 1534 01:05:56,059 --> 01:06:00,991 right? And so they are being deluged 1535 01:05:56,906 --> 01:05:58,894 Yeah, it's right in the name, artificial. 1536 01:06:00,991 --> 01:06:05,063 by what's real and what's not real. 1537 01:06:05,063 --> 01:06:10,256 And that line has become increasingly difficult to determine where we're at. 1538 01:06:10,256 --> 01:06:13,118 And then I think also there's probably a sense of like, 1539 01:06:13,887 --> 01:06:15,998 this stuff is just gonna make us dumber, 1540 01:06:15,998 --> 01:06:18,530 right? There's a lack of critical thinking skills. 1541 01:06:16,566 --> 01:06:17,566 Hmm. 1542 01:06:18,530 --> 01:06:20,701 If you can just pump stuff into AI and be like, 1543 01:06:20,701 --> 01:06:23,502 make me a paper. Yes, on the one hand, 1544 01:06:23,502 --> 01:06:27,124 it's like, this is amazing. I can just pump this into and get a paper out of it. 1545 01:06:27,124 --> 01:06:32,047 But I don't think that the value of that exceeds the idea that like, 1546 01:06:32,047 --> 01:06:35,379 okay, I can see the logical conclusion here, 1547 01:06:35,379 --> 01:06:39,791 which is, am I gonna be able to get a job or are they just gonna deploy AI agents? 1548 01:06:39,791 --> 01:06:41,352 And if you are a college student, 1549 01:06:41,352 --> 01:06:43,233 let's be honest. 1550 01:06:43,605 --> 01:06:45,286 The thing you care about the most is, 1551 01:06:45,286 --> 01:06:47,428 am I gonna be able to get a job? 1552 01:06:47,428 --> 01:06:53,033 Right, because suddenly you have reached the point where the safety 1553 01:06:53,373 --> 01:06:56,255 of I'm in college, so I'm on my own, 1554 01:06:56,255 --> 01:06:58,137 but I have a meal plan and a dorm, 1555 01:06:58,137 --> 01:07:02,781 and so I'm sort of in this in-between world between completely independent adult 1556 01:07:02,881 --> 01:07:06,484 and independent adult that I feel like I get to make all my own choices, 1557 01:07:06,484 --> 01:07:11,007 but I have this like structurally designed safety net that like I don't have 1558 01:07:11,007 --> 01:07:12,959 to worry about all of these things and just. 1559 01:07:13,141 --> 01:07:17,122 just you realize, but tomorrow I got to figure it out on my 1560 01:07:17,122 --> 01:07:19,665 own because they're going to kick me out of the dorm because I've graduated 1561 01:07:19,665 --> 01:07:21,567 and I've got to get a job and I've got a whatever. 1562 01:07:21,567 --> 01:07:22,888 So I just think that there is this. 1563 01:07:22,888 --> 01:07:25,549 I don't know. I think there's a combination of it. 1564 01:07:25,549 --> 01:07:29,115 Also, college students tend to be a little bit countercultural, 1565 01:07:29,115 --> 01:07:32,648 right? Most revolutions. And when I say that, 1566 01:07:30,401 --> 01:07:31,401 Sure. 1567 01:07:32,648 --> 01:07:38,542 I just mean cultural revolutions begin with young people because they don't have 1568 01:07:35,765 --> 01:07:37,962 Yeah. Right. 1569 01:07:38,542 --> 01:07:41,574 the established their incentives are different. 1570 01:07:41,770 --> 01:07:47,233 They don't have anything to benefit from AGI making a couple people billionaires, 1571 01:07:47,233 --> 01:07:48,233 trillionaires. 1572 01:07:48,851 --> 01:07:54,804 So number one, if you're Gen Z or younger or younger millennial and like 1573 01:07:54,804 --> 01:07:56,325 you would have booed at that commencement, 1574 01:07:56,325 --> 01:07:58,346 like in the clip we just played, 1575 01:07:58,346 --> 01:07:59,987 I would love to hear from you. 1576 01:07:59,987 --> 01:08:02,515 Like if you have that averse feeling towards AI, 1577 01:08:02,515 --> 01:08:06,911 if you could articulate why, like is it the fear of not being able to get a job? 1578 01:08:06,911 --> 01:08:11,534 Is it just the doom scrolling-ification of everything? 1579 01:08:11,534 --> 01:08:14,145 The in poopification, I will say, 1580 01:08:14,145 --> 01:08:16,016 because we don't have an explicit tag on our show, 1581 01:08:16,016 --> 01:08:17,447 which is term you hear a lot. 1582 01:08:17,951 --> 01:08:18,951 I'd really love to hear from you. 1583 01:08:18,842 --> 01:08:21,443 Email podcast at primarytech.fm. 1584 01:08:21,443 --> 01:08:23,444 I'm really curious your thoughts on this. 1585 01:08:23,444 --> 01:08:25,445 If you would have booed at that commencement speech, 1586 01:08:25,445 --> 01:08:27,526 tell me why. I really want to know. 1587 01:08:27,526 --> 01:08:30,128 And I also want to, I'm going to link this in the show notes. 1588 01:08:30,128 --> 01:08:33,350 Casey Newton of Platformer, he did an interview. 1589 01:08:33,350 --> 01:08:37,262 ~ The title of the article slash interview is the best argument I've heard 1590 01:08:37,262 --> 01:08:38,753 for why AI won't take your job. 1591 01:08:38,753 --> 01:08:41,114 It's with Box CEO, Aaron Levy. 1592 01:08:41,114 --> 01:08:43,416 But they talk about, I didn't listen to the whole thing. 1593 01:08:43,416 --> 01:08:45,697 I've seen clips of it, but basically that 1594 01:08:46,493 --> 01:08:50,734 AI can do maybe 80 % of what humans are capable of, 1595 01:08:50,734 --> 01:08:56,336 but there is still that last 10 to 20 % of synthesis or analysis 1596 01:08:56,776 --> 01:09:01,577 or just task completion that AI is still nowhere near as good at as humans. 1597 01:09:01,577 --> 01:09:04,648 Like it can do a lot of the work as good as humans, 1598 01:09:04,648 --> 01:09:06,799 if not better, but there is that like, 1599 01:09:06,799 --> 01:09:11,280 you call it the last mile, which is like using like internet cable running, 1600 01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:15,361 like the last mile of the box to the house that humans are still much better at. 1601 01:09:15,733 --> 01:09:19,456 that because of the human experience and either years of working in a field 1602 01:09:19,456 --> 01:09:23,268 or just years of being a human that you just understand things better that that's 1603 01:09:23,268 --> 01:09:25,360 the reason why AI won't take a lot of jobs. 1604 01:09:25,360 --> 01:09:31,074 I do feel like there's a bit of a counterpoint there where some jobs where 1605 01:09:31,074 --> 01:09:36,948 the job literally was taking notes and summarizing things for people 1606 01:09:37,228 --> 01:09:41,461 and keeping track of people's calendars those could be namely like executive 1607 01:09:41,461 --> 01:09:43,653 assistants or data entry 1608 01:09:43,786 --> 01:09:46,928 Feels like those jobs, maybe closer to 100 % of those jobs, 1609 01:09:46,928 --> 01:09:48,249 could be done by AI pretty soon, 1610 01:09:48,249 --> 01:09:50,951 and so there probably are jobs that will go away because of it. 1611 01:09:50,951 --> 01:09:54,143 I also understand that there's the environmental impact of AI. 1612 01:09:54,143 --> 01:09:56,635 do have people, every time I talk about AI on social media, 1613 01:09:56,635 --> 01:09:57,795 there's usually somebody that's like, 1614 01:09:57,795 --> 01:09:59,857 you boiled an ocean for this? It's like, 1615 01:09:59,857 --> 01:10:03,079 I don't know, man. Maybe. I think the Atlantic is still there. 1616 01:10:03,079 --> 01:10:04,200 I'm going to the beach this weekend. 1617 01:10:03,209 --> 01:10:04,430 Yeah, we still have a few of those. 1618 01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:06,131 I'm going to go to the beach this weekend. 1619 01:10:04,430 --> 01:10:05,430 It's 1620 01:10:06,131 --> 01:10:07,222 I'll let you know if it's still there. 1621 01:10:07,472 --> 01:10:10,774 Well, the okay, you just actually said something I think really pinpoints it. 1622 01:10:10,774 --> 01:10:13,104 Executive assistants, I don't think are going anywhere. 1623 01:10:13,104 --> 01:10:16,706 Because the people who have executive assistants only care about one thing. 1624 01:10:16,706 --> 01:10:18,227 And that's that they don't ever have to think about it. 1625 01:10:18,227 --> 01:10:21,389 Right? If you have a human being that you can yell at, 1626 01:10:21,389 --> 01:10:24,131 if they get it wrong, they're not going to get it wrong very often. 1627 01:10:24,131 --> 01:10:25,372 And you can have a conversation. 1628 01:10:25,372 --> 01:10:29,375 And so now if you don't have an executive assistant AI can be great. 1629 01:10:29,375 --> 01:10:30,666 Cowork is great for like 1630 01:10:30,823 --> 01:10:32,714 Show me all the things that are supposed to happen next week because 1631 01:10:32,714 --> 01:10:33,995 I can't even figure out all the conflicts, 1632 01:10:33,995 --> 01:10:35,466 right? Now, that's a thing you could ask a human, 1633 01:10:35,466 --> 01:10:37,468 but it would be expensive if you have to pay a human to do that. 1634 01:10:37,468 --> 01:10:38,799 So if you can't pay a human to do it, 1635 01:10:38,799 --> 01:10:42,011 great. is fantastic. I don't see AI being, 1636 01:10:42,011 --> 01:10:44,713 you know, replacing a whole lot of executive assistants for the people 1637 01:10:44,713 --> 01:10:48,285 who can afford to pay them. And I think that that actually summarizes why 1638 01:10:48,285 --> 01:10:52,308 Gen Z is so frustrated by what they see happening, 1639 01:10:52,308 --> 01:10:57,252 which is that they are going to absorb all of the disruption for the benefit 1640 01:10:57,652 --> 01:10:58,773 of a few people. 1641 01:10:59,167 --> 01:11:00,828 who basically run these companies, 1642 01:11:00,828 --> 01:11:04,629 right? Everyone above them are gonna capture all of the gains and they're gonna 1643 01:11:04,629 --> 01:11:06,362 be the generation that gets disrupted. 1644 01:11:06,362 --> 01:11:09,585 And I think that the executive assistant thing is actually a perfect example because 1645 01:11:09,725 --> 01:11:11,987 I don't think like there's probably not a whole lot of people 1646 01:11:11,987 --> 01:11:15,009 who just graduated from University of Central Florida who are like, 1647 01:11:15,009 --> 01:11:17,711 what I really wanna do is take notes in meetings for a living. 1648 01:11:17,711 --> 01:11:19,813 They're like, no, I kinda wanna be running the meeting. 1649 01:11:17,775 --> 01:11:18,775 Sure. 1650 01:11:20,481 --> 01:11:24,623 Right, yes Okay. Well, I'm really curious email us comment if you're watching 1651 01:11:24,623 --> 01:11:28,454 on YouTube and ~ Yeah, I think that the first part of the title of this episode 1652 01:11:28,454 --> 01:11:31,446 is gonna be does Gen Z hate AI I think the answer is yes, 1653 01:11:31,446 --> 01:11:36,848 but We'll see I know my kids though Like they use it to ask questions 1654 01:11:31,829 --> 01:11:32,829 think you're right. 1655 01:11:37,728 --> 01:11:44,411 But they don't feel like a particular affinity for it or that it will somehow Change 1656 01:11:44,411 --> 01:11:47,512 their lives for the better. Like it's not that big in their minds. 1657 01:11:47,512 --> 01:11:48,573 I will say 1658 01:11:48,710 --> 01:11:49,961 Anytime they asked me a question, 1659 01:11:49,961 --> 01:11:53,304 and I'll recall, I don't know how you were with your parents, 1660 01:11:53,304 --> 01:11:56,987 but when I was a kid, like AI, 1661 01:11:56,987 --> 01:11:58,578 anytime I asked my dad a question, 1662 01:11:58,578 --> 01:12:01,731 he would have an answer. He would always give me an answer. 1663 01:12:00,009 --> 01:12:01,009 Yeah. 1664 01:12:01,731 --> 01:12:06,114 How true the answer was or how accurate it was to actual information, 1665 01:12:06,114 --> 01:12:08,456 there was no way to know. There was no, 1666 01:12:08,456 --> 01:12:10,378 I would ask him like, how does this work? 1667 01:12:10,378 --> 01:12:13,360 And he would just tell me whether it was true or not. 1668 01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:14,981 I believed it and I was happy. 1669 01:12:14,981 --> 01:12:17,383 I guess we went on our way and maybe that was better. 1670 01:12:17,383 --> 01:12:18,383 We were better for it. 1671 01:12:18,706 --> 01:12:20,637 But now, whenever my kids ask me something, 1672 01:12:20,637 --> 01:12:24,139 like the other day we were trying to figure out some world fact, 1673 01:12:24,139 --> 01:12:26,660 I just immediately went to Claude and asked him a question. 1674 01:12:26,660 --> 01:12:30,002 And so, again, I'm not verifying that. 1675 01:12:30,002 --> 01:12:33,304 I assume it's more accurate than just trying to make up something off the 1676 01:12:33,304 --> 01:12:36,466 top of my head. And so at least I can know that when my kids have asked 1677 01:12:36,466 --> 01:12:40,027 me something during this era, I've told them hopefully more accurate information, 1678 01:12:40,027 --> 01:12:41,048 but I don't know. 1679 01:12:41,024 --> 01:12:42,024 I 1680 01:12:41,164 --> 01:12:43,164 just want to say, while we were doing this, 1681 01:12:43,164 --> 01:12:45,804 texted my two Gen Z daughters. 1682 01:12:45,804 --> 01:12:49,143 I just said, do the teens hate AI? 1683 01:12:46,204 --> 01:12:47,204 yeah. 1684 01:12:49,143 --> 01:12:51,384 And one of them was like, yes and no, 1685 01:12:51,384 --> 01:12:53,484 it depends. Sometimes I do, but not when I'm doing my homework, 1686 01:12:53,484 --> 01:12:56,724 which that seems about right. And my other one goes, 1687 01:12:55,467 --> 01:12:56,467 Ha ha! 1688 01:12:56,724 --> 01:12:58,264 dad, what are you actually talking about? 1689 01:12:58,264 --> 01:13:01,404 I just said, do the teens hate AI? 1690 01:12:58,674 --> 01:12:59,674 Hahahaha 1691 01:13:01,404 --> 01:13:02,744 Dad, what are you talking about? 1692 01:13:02,744 --> 01:13:05,164 And so I said, people say that Gen Z hates AI. 1693 01:13:05,164 --> 01:13:06,204 So I was wondering if that's true. 1694 01:13:06,204 --> 01:13:09,504 And she stopped responding. So they're supposed to be in school, 1695 01:13:09,504 --> 01:13:10,504 right? 1696 01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:13,120 They said they tend to respond when their father texts them in the middle 1697 01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:14,120 of the podcast. 1698 01:13:13,389 --> 01:13:14,389 That's 1699 01:13:13,759 --> 01:13:16,516 good. Now see now I'm gonna text my kids and see if we get an answer live 1700 01:13:16,516 --> 01:13:21,658 on the show kids does do Jenzy does Jenzy hate AI 1701 01:13:22,026 --> 01:13:24,029 Do the teens hate AI? That's the question. 1702 01:13:24,173 --> 01:13:25,564 right now. I'm recording a segment right now. 1703 01:13:25,564 --> 01:13:27,766 I'll do a real-time follow-up if my kids text me back. 1704 01:13:27,766 --> 01:13:30,088 All right. So I think one of them is still asleep. 1705 01:13:30,088 --> 01:13:35,928 So speaking of AI, I will mention there are use cases that you can use AI. 1706 01:13:30,758 --> 01:13:31,758 you 1707 01:13:35,928 --> 01:13:38,135 I just like to mention the things that I do with Cloud that are fun. 1708 01:13:38,135 --> 01:13:40,837 I Jason built a whole app for the Mac and the iPhone. 1709 01:13:40,571 --> 01:13:42,146 Three abs basically. 1710 01:13:40,837 --> 01:13:45,081 Three apps, basically. Anthropic is trying to court small businesses 1711 01:13:45,081 --> 01:13:47,643 by adding more like small business features into co-work. 1712 01:13:47,643 --> 01:13:49,305 There's now like a small business toggle, 1713 01:13:49,305 --> 01:13:51,407 and it'll have things like payroll. 1714 01:13:51,739 --> 01:13:54,979 and accounting type tasks, and you'll be able to do more stuff like that 1715 01:13:54,979 --> 01:13:57,819 in Cloud Cowork. I just wanted to say I've had, 1716 01:13:57,819 --> 01:14:00,219 I wanted to redo my link in BioSight, 1717 01:14:00,219 --> 01:14:02,619 the link that I put in all like TikTok and Instagram, 1718 01:14:02,619 --> 01:14:04,179 which is the other thing I wanted to say about Instagram. 1719 01:14:04,179 --> 01:14:07,779 Like the reason why many chat and DMs are where all the action happens 1720 01:14:07,779 --> 01:14:10,579 on Instagram is because you can't link anything in an Instagram post. 1721 01:14:10,579 --> 01:14:12,299 You can't link anything in the caption. 1722 01:14:12,299 --> 01:14:15,059 You can't make a link clickable or in the comments. 1723 01:14:15,059 --> 01:14:17,659 And so everybody has to do this many chat automation like I do too. 1724 01:14:17,659 --> 01:14:19,859 But anyway, I wanted to make a new BioSight, 1725 01:14:19,859 --> 01:14:20,859 the link in Bio. 1726 01:14:21,155 --> 01:14:22,996 And I just asked Claude to do it for me. 1727 01:14:22,996 --> 01:14:24,937 I still have my site on Squarespace. 1728 01:14:24,937 --> 01:14:27,258 I had thought about changing recently, 1729 01:14:27,258 --> 01:14:29,166 but then now that I've been doing more with Claude, 1730 01:14:29,166 --> 01:14:31,701 I'm like, wait a minute. It doesn't matter where I host my site because 1731 01:14:31,701 --> 01:14:35,052 I could just ask Claude to give me a bunch of HTML code and I could just 1732 01:14:35,052 --> 01:14:39,675 put it wherever I want. So I asked Claude to strip the header navigation 1733 01:14:39,675 --> 01:14:41,606 and the header bar off the page. 1734 01:14:41,606 --> 01:14:46,068 He gave me a bunch of code to paste in the code injection part of Squarespace. 1735 01:14:46,068 --> 01:14:48,169 And then I told him to just give me a bunch of HTML. 1736 01:14:48,169 --> 01:14:49,790 I want my bio site to look like this. 1737 01:14:49,790 --> 01:14:50,861 I want it to link to my like 1738 01:14:51,164 --> 01:14:52,835 podcast, YouTube and Instagram at the top. 1739 01:14:52,835 --> 01:14:55,357 I want to have these buttons that say this and I wanted to show 1740 01:14:55,357 --> 01:15:00,330 my last YouTube video and here is where I will say the memory part 1741 01:15:00,730 --> 01:15:03,132 of Claude or these other AIs comes in handy. 1742 01:15:03,132 --> 01:15:07,024 I had already asked Claude to help me build a part of my website on 1743 01:15:07,024 --> 01:15:10,256 the home page that always shows the most recent YouTube video and 1744 01:15:10,256 --> 01:15:13,358 it walked me through building a worker in Cloudflare. 1745 01:15:13,358 --> 01:15:16,781 I don't even know what those words mean but I did that and walked me through 1746 01:15:16,781 --> 01:15:20,473 it and because I had that worker Claude was able to hook into it. 1747 01:15:20,795 --> 01:15:24,335 And then just show the latest one video embedded on his bio site. 1748 01:15:24,335 --> 01:15:26,035 I was able to use that worker I already built. 1749 01:15:26,035 --> 01:15:27,795 I didn't go back to Cloudflare for this. 1750 01:15:27,795 --> 01:15:29,955 I just pasted this code in Squarespace, 1751 01:15:29,955 --> 01:15:31,215 blocking I have a new bio site. 1752 01:15:31,215 --> 01:15:33,915 And it's pretty good. So you know, 1753 01:15:33,915 --> 01:15:36,675 that's a nice use case. You could do that too. 1754 01:15:34,299 --> 01:15:35,299 Nice. 1755 01:15:36,675 --> 01:15:38,815 Or you could pay, you know, Linktree, 1756 01:15:38,815 --> 01:15:40,375 $15 a month, whatever you want to do. 1757 01:15:40,375 --> 01:15:43,055 So our last couple quick things, 1758 01:15:41,646 --> 01:15:42,646 Bye. 1759 01:15:43,055 --> 01:15:44,275 and then we'll get to some personal tech. 1760 01:15:44,275 --> 01:15:47,335 iPhone 17 apparently is super popular. 1761 01:15:47,835 --> 01:15:51,854 This is a report showing just kind of the sales of the different iPhone models. 1762 01:15:51,854 --> 01:15:56,695 In quarter one of 2026, the iPhone 17, 1763 01:15:56,695 --> 01:16:00,755 far and above, it is the world's best smelling smartphone in quarter one, 1764 01:16:00,755 --> 01:16:03,715 capturing 6 % of global unit sales. 1765 01:16:03,715 --> 01:16:06,855 And after the iPhone 17, it's the 17 Pro Max. 1766 01:16:06,855 --> 01:16:09,535 And after the 17 Pro Max, it's the iPhone 17 Pro. 1767 01:16:09,535 --> 01:16:11,615 And then you have the Galaxy phones. 1768 01:16:11,615 --> 01:16:16,955 And then the iPhone 16 is number six best selling phone. 1769 01:16:17,389 --> 01:16:19,561 iPhone Air didn't make the list of this top 10, 1770 01:16:19,561 --> 01:16:20,561 unfortunately. 1771 01:16:21,059 --> 01:16:22,059 Yeah, 1772 01:16:21,619 --> 01:16:23,760 I'm gonna set aside the fact that I'm pretty sure you said it's 1773 01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:27,661 the best smelling phone, but I'm pretty sure Listeners, 1774 01:16:25,188 --> 01:16:26,188 Did I really? 1775 01:16:27,661 --> 01:16:32,522 let us know if that's we heard Stephen say Okay, 1776 01:16:28,069 --> 01:16:30,386 Hold on, let me test something real quick. 1777 01:16:30,386 --> 01:16:32,011 That doesn't smell like anything. 1778 01:16:32,522 --> 01:16:37,103 is that a 17 or 17 Pro see Have you got a 17? 1779 01:16:34,555 --> 01:16:36,675 Oh, that's true, this is 17 Pro Max. 1780 01:16:37,103 --> 01:16:39,724 you would think that max would smell better, 1781 01:16:39,724 --> 01:16:43,405 but apparently not anyway We're gonna just set that as we did not set it aside, 1782 01:16:40,795 --> 01:16:41,795 for the best. 1783 01:16:43,405 --> 01:16:44,676 but we're gonna set that part aside. 1784 01:16:44,676 --> 01:16:48,277 This is not surprising at all It's like the best is the most affordable 1785 01:16:48,277 --> 01:16:49,797 one with basically all the features 1786 01:16:50,011 --> 01:16:51,611 That's the thing. That's the thing. 1787 01:16:51,611 --> 01:16:56,856 But it's harder to get a cheaper Apple product now because the education store 1788 01:16:56,856 --> 01:17:00,756 on Apple's website, which has historically worked on an honor system, 1789 01:17:00,756 --> 01:17:05,116 is no longer an honor system. You need verification now if you want 1790 01:17:05,116 --> 01:17:07,516 to have an education discount on any Apple product. 1791 01:17:07,516 --> 01:17:11,996 This is using the UNIDASE verification system, 1792 01:17:11,996 --> 01:17:15,076 which I have a couple friends who work in the Polk County Public School system, 1793 01:17:15,076 --> 01:17:18,136 and I asked them, do you guys know what this UNIDASE verification is? 1794 01:17:18,136 --> 01:17:19,136 And they're like, 1795 01:17:18,795 --> 01:17:23,550 No, and so I don't know like how widespread this is or how easy it will be 1796 01:17:23,550 --> 01:17:27,784 to get I think if you have like a dot edu from a university email address, 1797 01:17:27,784 --> 01:17:33,780 it'll be easier but Apple has gone through this kind of thing before Where 1798 01:17:33,780 --> 01:17:36,282 the education source on an honor system and then they'll 1799 01:17:36,282 --> 01:17:39,335 try some verification method and then they'll take it away So who knows 1800 01:17:39,335 --> 01:17:41,057 how long it will last or if this is permanent, 1801 01:17:41,057 --> 01:17:43,529 but yeah, it's harder to get the education discounts Jason 1802 01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:50,003 Well, and I wrote about this. did link to it because essentially my theory 1803 01:17:50,003 --> 01:17:51,963 is that the MacBook Neo ruined this, 1804 01:17:51,963 --> 01:17:55,415 right? They did try this a couple of years ago and people pushed back 1805 01:17:55,415 --> 01:17:57,165 and it just was not worth the hassle. 1806 01:17:57,165 --> 01:18:00,096 And it's not worth the hassle when you're absorbing it in a MacBook 1807 01:18:00,096 --> 01:18:02,168 Air or MacBook Pro or Mac mini or whatever it is. 1808 01:18:02,168 --> 01:18:06,910 But with the Mac Neo, there is less room for taking out margin, 1809 01:18:06,910 --> 01:18:10,811 right? It's just that the cost of the device just means that there is less room 1810 01:18:07,332 --> 01:18:08,332 Yeah. 1811 01:18:10,811 --> 01:18:12,692 for that kind of thing. And so 1812 01:18:12,850 --> 01:18:16,543 They wanna make sure that only people who are qualified. 1813 01:18:16,543 --> 01:18:19,426 And my take was like, this is like the, 1814 01:18:19,426 --> 01:18:22,868 why is it show these things like so ridiculous? 1815 01:18:22,487 --> 01:18:24,894 Apple News is not formatting your articles very well, 1816 01:18:22,868 --> 01:18:28,973 I have to screenshot that so that I can send it to my editor again. 1817 01:18:24,894 --> 01:18:25,901 Jason, I'm just gonna say. 1818 01:18:28,973 --> 01:18:31,476 That is insane. Anyway, that is. 1819 01:18:30,843 --> 01:18:32,285 You can read Jason's articles 1820 01:18:32,305 --> 01:18:36,601 from ink.com in Apple News and you don't get all the paywall stuff but... 1821 01:18:36,112 --> 01:18:37,112 But it basically 1822 01:18:36,922 --> 01:18:38,473 just shoves everything into the deck. 1823 01:18:38,473 --> 01:18:43,694 It's like ridiculous. Anyway, it's not even the first one. 1824 01:18:40,417 --> 01:18:42,565 Is that like the first paragraph of the article or something? 1825 01:18:43,694 --> 01:18:50,476 It's like, maybe it's like it combined the deck with some other stuff. 1826 01:18:46,021 --> 01:18:47,021 That's bizarre. 1827 01:18:49,945 --> 01:18:51,083 Okay, well, there you go. 1828 01:18:50,476 --> 01:18:53,878 Anyway, it doesn't matter. But it was like the worst kept secret. 1829 01:18:53,878 --> 01:18:55,888 Everyone knew you could just go to the education source, 1830 01:18:55,888 --> 01:19:01,260 save 100 bucks, right? But when they're offering an extremely popular Mac for what, 1831 01:19:01,260 --> 01:19:02,260 599? 1832 01:19:02,115 --> 01:19:04,995 The hundred bucks, there's not as many hundred bucks to take out of it. 1833 01:19:04,995 --> 01:19:06,915 And so they want to make sure that they only are giving it to people. 1834 01:19:05,141 --> 01:19:06,141 Right. 1835 01:19:06,915 --> 01:19:10,015 Now this verification thing, does not surprise me at all that no one knows what 1836 01:19:10,015 --> 01:19:13,335 it is. It feels to me like it's the exact same thing. 1837 01:19:13,335 --> 01:19:17,435 Like if you go to a government website and they ask, 1838 01:19:17,435 --> 01:19:18,975 do you want to sign in with ID.me? 1839 01:19:18,975 --> 01:19:20,495 You don't have to know what that is. 1840 01:19:20,495 --> 01:19:23,295 It's just a, it's just a verification service that they're using. 1841 01:19:23,295 --> 01:19:24,375 And that's what this is. Like, 1842 01:19:24,375 --> 01:19:26,995 this is just a way for Apple to embed a, 1843 01:19:26,995 --> 01:19:29,035 it's kind of like an app could use login with Apple. 1844 01:19:29,035 --> 01:19:31,215 This is like login with your school ID. 1845 01:19:29,514 --> 01:19:30,514 Right. 1846 01:19:31,521 --> 01:19:32,793 this is the people that do that. 1847 01:19:32,793 --> 01:19:33,814 You don't need to know what it is. 1848 01:19:33,814 --> 01:19:36,868 So they're just gonna make you prove that you're a college student 1849 01:19:36,868 --> 01:19:40,282 or a college professor. And I believe this essentially means that they're 1850 01:19:40,282 --> 01:19:42,155 eliminating it for, can't just be like, 1851 01:19:42,155 --> 01:19:45,819 well, my kids are in school, but they don't have a college email address. 1852 01:19:44,746 --> 01:19:46,937 Yeah, you can do Can't 1853 01:19:45,819 --> 01:19:46,951 So they're on a lot. 1854 01:19:46,937 --> 01:19:51,770 do that, yeah. There is also a ~ way for like homeschoolers and others, 1855 01:19:51,770 --> 01:19:55,733 know, different ways of schooling you can get the education discount, 1856 01:19:55,733 --> 01:19:58,224 but it is a process. Like you do have to have it verified and all that. 1857 01:19:58,243 --> 01:19:59,243 You 1858 01:19:58,403 --> 01:20:01,007 have to send in a kidney and you have to get a letter. 1859 01:20:00,534 --> 01:20:02,534 That's right, blood test, yeah, 1860 01:20:01,007 --> 01:20:03,587 It says it's your kidney, yeah. 1861 01:20:02,534 --> 01:20:03,534 all that. 1862 01:20:04,194 --> 01:20:07,054 Let's save the AirPods with a camera for our bonus content because there's 1863 01:20:07,054 --> 01:20:09,554 a rumor that AirPods are gonna have a camera soon. 1864 01:20:09,554 --> 01:20:11,474 And I think that would be interesting. 1865 01:20:09,815 --> 01:20:12,827 Yeah, another dumb idea. boo. 1866 01:20:11,474 --> 01:20:16,602 So we can talk about that. But I wanted to share a personal tech thing before we go, 1867 01:20:16,602 --> 01:20:18,802 which is, you're gonna love this. 1868 01:20:18,802 --> 01:20:21,050 I still use Magic Mouse, okay. 1869 01:20:21,227 --> 01:20:23,695 Is this the stupid thing that Neelai was showing? 1870 01:20:24,310 --> 01:20:26,290 Yes it is, Jason. Yes it is. 1871 01:20:26,690 --> 01:20:31,670 I bought this silly $25 Magic Mouse Charger Base. 1872 01:20:31,670 --> 01:20:33,830 You can get it Lightning or USB-C, 1873 01:20:33,830 --> 01:20:38,570 comes in white or black. And it is basically a 3D printed thing 1874 01:20:38,570 --> 01:20:41,310 for your Magic Mouse. It fits the Magic Mouse perfectly. 1875 01:20:41,310 --> 01:20:46,190 It has a little USB-C port that sticks up so it plugs the mouse in. 1876 01:20:46,190 --> 01:20:52,602 And here's the kicker. It's got a MagSafe charging thing on the bottom. 1877 01:20:53,365 --> 01:20:57,767 So you can literally just place this on a MagSafe charger and charge your Magic 1878 01:20:57,767 --> 01:21:03,379 Mouse. And you can use the mouse in the case if it's not charging. 1879 01:21:03,379 --> 01:21:06,360 It has a little hole for the optical sensor and it'll just, 1880 01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:08,021 you you can move it around or whatever. 1881 01:21:08,021 --> 01:21:12,062 It is very chunky when you're actually using it that way and I don't recommend it. 1882 01:21:12,062 --> 01:21:15,494 I have it right here. And I will link it in the show notes, 1883 01:21:15,494 --> 01:21:18,605 but here it is. And there's a little MagSafe puck on the bottom. 1884 01:21:18,605 --> 01:21:20,981 But the thing is, Jason, here's the... 1885 01:21:20,598 --> 01:21:21,598 You can't 1886 01:21:21,029 --> 01:21:23,714 use it when it's charging, which by the way, 1887 01:21:22,709 --> 01:21:23,709 That's the thing. 1888 01:21:23,714 --> 01:21:25,607 you couldn't do when it was charging before. 1889 01:21:25,607 --> 01:21:26,839 This is also stupid. 1890 01:21:26,187 --> 01:21:27,747 Now this 1891 01:21:27,747 --> 01:21:30,767 of all the things that are stupid in this episode this might be I don't know 1892 01:21:30,474 --> 01:21:32,107 It doesn't actually solve the problem. 1893 01:21:30,767 --> 01:21:37,207 if it's the most stupid is this more stupid than in an Instagram instance Just 1894 01:21:37,207 --> 01:21:38,207 so you in your opinion 1895 01:21:38,424 --> 01:21:44,048 ~ I don't know what problem Instagram instances solving, 1896 01:21:39,915 --> 01:21:40,915 It's a call. 1897 01:21:44,048 --> 01:21:46,900 so I don't know. I know exactly what problem this is trying to solve 1898 01:21:46,900 --> 01:21:48,511 and they're not solving the problem. 1899 01:21:47,327 --> 01:21:50,025 Yeah, I know, I know. 1900 01:21:48,511 --> 01:21:52,384 Steven. The problem is you can't plug in the mouse and keep using 1901 01:21:52,384 --> 01:21:55,326 it because you have to turn it on its side like a dead turtle and give 1902 01:21:52,597 --> 01:21:53,597 This is... 1903 01:21:55,326 --> 01:21:58,378 it an umbilical cord. And here all you do is leave the turtle the way it 1904 01:21:58,378 --> 01:22:01,000 is and give it another shell and you still can't use it if you're charging. 1905 01:22:01,257 --> 01:22:02,768 That's the thing. To be clear, 1906 01:22:02,768 --> 01:22:08,651 I've tried this multiple ways and you can have even the thin MagSafe puck. 1907 01:22:08,651 --> 01:22:11,133 You can put the mouse in this little shell, 1908 01:22:11,133 --> 01:22:13,174 charge it with the MagSafe puck, 1909 01:22:13,174 --> 01:22:17,456 and you cannot use it because whenever the Magic Mouse is charging, 1910 01:22:17,456 --> 01:22:21,089 your Mac just says, ~ you're not using the mouse right now. 1911 01:22:21,089 --> 01:22:22,620 You cannot use the mouse right now. 1912 01:22:22,620 --> 01:22:27,182 And what's crazy making is it's still connected via Bluetooth because 1913 01:22:27,182 --> 01:22:28,182 if you have the widget, 1914 01:22:28,639 --> 01:22:31,965 you can still see the percentage of it charging on your Mac widget. 1915 01:22:31,965 --> 01:22:34,429 So it's still connected to your Mac via Bluetooth. 1916 01:22:34,429 --> 01:22:38,106 It's connected right there, but you literally cannot move the mouse when it's 1917 01:22:38,106 --> 01:22:39,569 charging. Yeah. 1918 01:22:38,764 --> 01:22:39,764 Well, the reason 1919 01:22:39,624 --> 01:22:42,126 is because of the orientation of the mouse when it's charging, 1920 01:22:42,126 --> 01:22:47,339 they've essentially using telemetry just turn that off so you don't have accidental 1921 01:22:47,339 --> 01:22:49,807 inputs. Like you don't have it sitting on its side and bump it 1922 01:22:49,807 --> 01:22:54,143 and accidentally you clicked on something that says send to Stephen $10,000 from 1923 01:22:54,143 --> 01:22:55,413 your bank account or something like that. 1924 01:22:55,046 --> 01:22:56,046 Yeah, 1925 01:22:55,413 --> 01:22:56,904 You don't want that to accidentally happen. 1926 01:22:56,904 --> 01:22:57,955 You only want to do it on purpose. 1927 01:22:57,955 --> 01:23:00,056 And so this doesn't solve the problem. 1928 01:22:58,346 --> 01:22:59,346 Sure. 1929 01:23:00,427 --> 01:23:01,767 No, it does not solve the problem. 1930 01:23:01,767 --> 01:23:05,239 I was really hopeful. I knew it wasn't going to work, 1931 01:23:05,239 --> 01:23:06,359 but I wanted to try it anyways. 1932 01:23:06,359 --> 01:23:10,651 And now I'm like... Literally, 1933 01:23:08,322 --> 01:23:09,322 Just like the Rabin R1. 1934 01:23:10,651 --> 01:23:12,432 at least this was only 25 bucks. 1935 01:23:12,432 --> 01:23:16,223 And I don't even know if it's worth it to put it in here just to charge 1936 01:23:16,223 --> 01:23:20,615 it easier because, I mean, I think it might be faster to just plug 1937 01:23:20,615 --> 01:23:23,096 in the USB-C cable if I can't use it anyway. 1938 01:23:23,096 --> 01:23:24,997 So... I'm also... Have you found, 1939 01:23:24,997 --> 01:23:27,578 like, your mouse lagging a little bit in macOS Tahoe? 1940 01:23:28,478 --> 01:23:30,869 like it kind of moves a little slowly sometimes. 1941 01:23:31,638 --> 01:23:34,330 I mean, I'm using this MX Master 3 and no, 1942 01:23:34,330 --> 01:23:38,032 I have not had that problem. So real time follow up though, 1943 01:23:34,755 --> 01:23:37,616 yes, he... Yeah... Anyway... 1944 01:23:38,032 --> 01:23:41,025 the daughter who said, dad, what are you actually talking about? 1945 01:23:41,025 --> 01:23:42,966 Said AI has ruined. 1946 01:23:43,093 --> 01:23:46,464 Interesting see now my son takes my son takes me back my 17 year old 1947 01:23:46,985 --> 01:23:50,868 I asked kids does Gen Z hate AI And my oldest said I don't believe 1948 01:23:50,868 --> 01:23:52,448 so at least according to their grades. 1949 01:23:52,448 --> 01:23:57,471 I Think that is implying that they are using it and their grades 1950 01:23:57,471 --> 01:24:02,453 are reflecting it so We want to know I want to know listeners and viewers email 1951 01:24:02,453 --> 01:24:06,575 me podcast at primary tech.fm Comment under the YouTube video does Gen Z hate 1952 01:24:06,575 --> 01:24:09,896 AI if you're Gen Z. 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